AxeMafia2: EVILvsGOOD : EVIL WINS

[laserblue]

HE WAS ALSO ABLE TO KILL RANDOM PEOPLE AT NIGHT!!  NOT GOOD... we're better off without wes (sorry wes)...

axeman said everyone had to use "subject numbers" in the night actions right?  anyone know my subject number?  I do..  what about anyone elses subject number??  anyone??  I certainly don't..

I can only assume that Wes had no idea which subject number everyone is..  so he would be random killing..  better off without that, as he'll more than likely be killing good roles..  i see it as a good lynch in my opinion.. 

if there is an evil team & they can communicate at night they can give each other there numbers ... then they would know who they where after but the good side would not...
therefore either the evil players are all individual or they can't talk at night.

maybe

[i2i Killer 89]

im presuming only one other person knows my subject number,seeing as iv already asked who roleblocked me.no-ones come forward about it though

Maybe they just didn't want to give away the fact that they can roleblock as that can be a pretty useful role if used properly. Obviously it's a bit random with these numbers but it can still be a good role.

The reason I voted for Bluestars over Mike is because Mike did actually come out of the woodwork a bit towards the end of the last day whereas Bluestars was still really quiet and just voted for Wes before disappearing again.

[bluestarsneyes]

Talk about seeing right through people...you my friend laser are as evil as the day is long!

calling me a liar about knowing the game had started?

Steven and Axeman surely would have not allowed that?
and with all the posting on my facebook between Axeman and I
an attempt to lie would have been easy to detect! It wasn't like the whole first day went
on without me...I came on when the game was on page 3 and posted by page 4 and remained active.

You want hide and say I've not been active in this game...but what constitutes active...I've posted
as much as you...I just don't sit here and post a one line of drivel...but when I post I offer
as much information as I can to help other goods with anything I see suspect.


What did you offer laser?

Who did you VOTE for? I can't seem to find a SINGLE vote from you yesterday?...why is that?....


And yet right out of the gate today...after what...11 pages of no voting for you...you make
a quick vote to me?

I think it's time you were honest laser...the reason you want to vote me off is that you know
I am good.

[bluestarsneyes]

After reading all these pages some interesting details. I noticed a few differences in play this game...but out of the gate Wesmancity was at almost everyone....and with complete bizarre logic....then after reading back to Wes's reaction to the question of whether it said he was good or evil....it's hard to deny...he ain't good.

I am especially as convinced that Miasg is with you somehow because of that post about not concentrating on Wes having to answer the questions but rather focus on people not posting....that's just clear...how can you focus on players that aren't playing when you have someone that when asked point blank...are you good or evil..and can't give an answer that you go focusing on someone else!

I think you are in a corner Wesmancity and I don't like the constant threats you like to add....you'll be sorry...you will regret it....doesn't sound like a good person desperate to make a case to be honest...sounds more like evil caught and knowing they have no BS left to dig out.

I mean maybe I'm thick but I'll take the chance....this whole game so far Wes you've gone after people but not inquired much...just attacked and then back off...attack and then back off..just suspicious even for you. It's simple you answered the question for us....you didn't say you were good...if you aren't good then what are you? Maybe playing for one?

VOTEWESMANCITY

Everything in this post about Wes was true...he was neutral...so his attempts to stir up controversy and then back down
makes sense...he was playing both sides!


Then my next question is the most obvious as it gets....

WES...IF YOU AREN'T GOOD, THEN WHAT ARE YOU? PLAYING FOR ONE?

What was his response? Nothing....therefor e...my question was answered...he wasn't good...I voted accordingly.

I am good...I voted off someone that has now been PROVEN to not be GOOD...neutral means nothing to a good...
it doesn't tell me at all whether he'd be an asset or a liablity.

[stevenryals]

if there is an evil team & they can communicate at night they can give each other there numbers ... then they would know who they where after but the good side would not...

1)  who says they don't already have each others numbers and don't have to give them?  you sir are slipping.

therefore either the evil players are all individual or they can't talk at night.

THIS... is a definitive statement..  you state this as if it is fact..  quite sus in my opinion..
only those with bad/evil roles would know this

maybe

followed by a 'cover thy butt' "maybe"... 

me thinks laser knows more than he leads on...

[bluestarsneyes]

from Axeman in the Wes lynch notes

" If you declare during the day phases that you have been passed a gift and reveal that you used that on someone, the person who passed it onto you will know what subject number you are!!!"

Which seemed like common sense at first...but then I reread and take it as a warning..IF you pass along gifts and you don't know the subject number you gave it to was good....could that mean a good could give an evil a gift?

If you are good...I don't think it is a good idea to give any gifts away because how can you confirm you aren't helping evil even if accidently?

[stevenryals]

If you are good...I don't think it is a good idea to give any gifts away because how can you confirm you aren't helping evil even if accidently?

seconded..  however I dont know what the gifts are, so seemingly they could help or hinder...

[stevenryals]

speaking of gifts..  maybe i can guess what it takes to get a gift lol

FOS laserblue

first to FOS in the 2nd day?  maybe??

[laserblue]

Bluestars is out of the woodwork & in vintage evil mode.........

I had to laugh at the bit where she makes out she has been active in the game as I have he he  

You came on & had one burst of activety where you just latched on to steve's attack on wes.... what's that... why don't you work something out for yourself   instead of latching on to what steve says?

& mr ryals protecting her?

[stevenryals]

no...... I just had a neutral role before & that's how it went then .....

I may go back and confirm that he has in fact had a neurtral role.. or if he's bluffing...  will take a while though

[bluestarsneyes]

Laserblue...if you want...I'll simply let your so called activity speak for itself

Laserblue Input from Day Two
********************************
if there is an evil team & they can communicate at night they can give each other there numbers ... then they would know who they where after but the good side would not...
therefore either the evil players are all individual or they can't talk at night.

maybe
**************************
no I don't think it odd .... remember by she always gives herself away by her posts when she is evil,
so by not posting much she might be trying not to give herself away
when she has posted it is nothing like her style when she has been innocent
also I don't buy the excuse she had no idea the game had started.
my vote sticks with her unless she starts to give some proper input.

to fbn I don't think we gained anything by killing off wes it's done more favours to the evil side than ours as he was the only one really testing peeps in the first day & also narrows the feild down for them.
 we need to get someone who's properly evil this time.
****************************
ok vote bluestars don't know how she got away with her lack of input till now.

[bluestarsneyes]

you are grasping at straws laser.....and you know it! It's obvious...what input have you submitted with your activity?

you are the FIRST poster to submit any kind of defense for Wes when he posts...his PM didn't say Good or Evil but TOWN! Hello...how obvious was it he was BS-ing about his role at that point?

Instead of questioning Wes...you attack Steven for putting pressure on him. It was actually Miasg that quoted the game as being GOOD vs. EVIL...I mean hello what reason can you have for defending that?!?

You know full well it wasn't me agreeing with Steven that got Wes killed but his very own words saying he was Town....at that point anyone that didn't vote for him to me looks very evil!

you immediately vote me...for a reason you can't back up saying I'm not active....especiall y when you compare my posts to all of the rest of the players in the game. I came in the game on page four...and didn't RUSH to vote...I voted on page 11...after asking questions of Wes....which when I did...YOU of course were the first one to attempt to attack me for...and yet as I showed above...he never responded to me because I asked if he was playing on a team of one...he knew he was caught.

what have you offered for he good? Nothing of substance for voting for me except to say I was not active.

Obviously I have been today and so why not remove the vote like you said if you didn't see a proper input from me? Huh?

Why? Because my input is that you are evil and you KNOW that by defending Wes you looked evil and so now you want to deflect attention away...

Facts last night was a GOOD night...no one GOOD died...and in the lynch a GOOD didn't die...did we get Evil...no...but I think so far the results are hard to argue.

[stevenryals]

poor laserblue.... lmao!!

[laserblue]

poor laserblue.... lmao!!

 

[laserblue]

1)  who says they don't already have each others numbers and don't have to give them?  you sir are slipping.

THIS... is a definitive statement..  you state this as if it is fact..  quite sus in my opinion..
only those with bad/evil roles would know this

followed by a 'cover thy butt' "maybe"... 

me thinks laser knows more than he leads on...

if the evil are side rather than individuals & they can talk at night they can tell each other there numbers .. yes

so they could just pick us off at night... ok

while the good side don't no who to use there powers on... i think this is making sense

so this game wouid turn out to be so one sided it would be unbeleivable

so I don't think axeman would have used an evil side who can talk to each other

so do you get where i'm coming from

it can't be that simple

I still think bluestars is sus can't see why your sticking up for her.. unless you know something we don't ... I'm not the only one that has noticed her lack of real input or commented on it.... you might know she's been busy .. but we don't



hence this game would be so

[laserblue]

if the evil are side rather than individuals & they can talk at night they can tell each other there numbers .. yes

so they could just pick us off at night... ok

while the good side don't no who to use there powers on... i think this is making sense

so this game wouid turn out to be so one sided it would be unbeleivable

so I don't think axeman would have used an evil side who can talk to each other

so do you get where i'm coming from

it can't be that simple

I still think bluestars is sus can't see why your sticking up for her.. unless you know something we don't ... I'm not the only one that has noticed her lack of real input or commented on it.... you might know she's been busy .. but we don't

[stevenryals]

so do you get where i'm coming from

let me get this straight.. evil can talk and good cant?  but thats too one-sided..

slipped again laserblue..

EVERY MAFIA GAME...  the evil can talk..  why is it one-sided this time?  I really can't understand where you are coming from.. 

[laserblue]

let me get this straight.. evil can talk and good cant?  but thats too one-sided..

slipped again laserblue..

EVERY MAFIA GAME...  the evil can talk..  why is it one-sided this time?  I really can't understand where you are coming from.. 

whats different about this game is....... if you know the numbers of the peeps your for and against it makes it easier..

so what I'm saying is if the evil players knew each others numbers it would be a one sided game


anyway you know what I was saying

& your deflecting the attention from bluestars aren't you?

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

that doesn't make sence, it's the same in every mafia game if you are mafia you know who are mafia and everyone else isn't, so it doesn't matter if you have a number, letter, colour or name they know who isn't on their side.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

This is from Axe's death post for Wes

SO CAN YOU ALL NOW GOTO YOUR CHAMBERS AND ENTER YOUR NIGHT PHASE DREAM STATE...
YOU ARE FREE TO DISCUSS TACTICS IF YOU ARE IN TEAMS, AND YOU ARE ALSO FREE TO PASS ME YOUR NIGHT ACTIONS, ALTHOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE CARRIED OUT AS THEY MAY CHANGE IF YOU ARE PASSED ON A GIFT... THE NIGHT WILL CONSIST OF A FEW PHASES, AND MAY TAKE LONGER THAN WHAT YOU ARE USED TOO... DAY WILL COMMENCE WHEN I FEEL IT IS OVER. 

it infers to me as usual the evil people can communicate and work out who they want to target out of the good players