Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

[Mikeblue]

FYI whoever said I was Reading and not posting. I'm at work and reading on my iPhone every time I get a couple of minutes. Trying to write any more than a few short sentances on this thing is hard work. So I will have to wait untill I get home to post.

Ha ha ok then. A fair explanation I suppose.

[hippo]

I see what you're saying Hippo, but I couldnt really tell by your post, it took me a minute.. so I've separated the 2 sentences for clarity..

in the first:  Mikeblue is prob town

in the second:  mike blue is defo town and either hippo is wrong or  (insert dodgyness)

not sure about the second statement, it seems slightly sus, but wouldnt 'something dodgy' mean one of you or both of you being evil?  splain your reasoning there..

Sorry.. are you asking me to explain, or him?

[stevenryals]

Sorry.. are you asking me to explain, or him?

you because to me "something dodgy" would imply that one or both of you may be evil.. 

[wesmancity]

Right im going to vote TCH i still think bluestars is town even though we have been at each others throats but feel that shes invloved in the game and looking for answers. TCH sorry mate the reaction you made at the start of the game still sticks in my mind and im sure you have a evil role some where.

Vote TCH[b/]

[stevenryals]

I unvoted TCH, because i think bluestars has alot to answer for and when she does ill ether vote her or TCH.

Right im going to vote TCH i still think bluestars is town even though we have been at each others throats but feel that shes invloved in the game and looking for answers. TCH sorry mate the reaction you made at the start of the game still sticks in my mind and im sure you have a evil role some where.

Vote TCH[b/]

nuff said

[hippo]

you because to me "something dodgy" would imply that one or both of you may be evil.. 

Well, to me "something dodgy" was him implying i was evil, and the "wrong" bit was implying i was a misguided townie. I was just wondering why there was no third option, in that i might have actually been right to suspect mikeblue. Because, surely he shouldn't know for certain at this stage?

[Sir Villain]

Interesting. Two options you've given there, as to what's going on. Either i'm wrong, or there's something dodgy going on. So there's no chance that mikeblue is mafia? I know you've said "possible townies" in the second sentence, but the third contradicts that, and you've slipped a bit. Seems like you're mafia, know mikeblue isn't, and are trying to allign yourself?

And let's just say, i didn't actually make any definitive statements about what mikeblue is. I simply noticed something that i found suspicious, explained it, and provided examples. Like he said, why wouldn't i find him suspicious?

Your post makes no sense, Hammer.

Just probing you, seeing how you would react to abit of criticism since I think you've had a fairly easy ride so far.

[hippo]

While we're posting about wes' randomness. This amused/confused me earlier:

bwwwwaaaaahaahhhhaaaaaaahahahahah!!

all defensive! please im asking you a question re: your post, whats wrong in that?

When did i say your post where defensive?? stop putting words in my mouth you fool!

[stevenryals]

Just probing you

uncalled for!!  lol   

[stevenryals]

so the question is then, is wes having a hard time keeping his thoughts organized for what reason? he's mafia and not digging and analyzing posts like they are trying to find something, or he's behind and cant seem to catch up.. 

cant see being behind as an excuse for flip-floping around with opinions.. 

[Sir Villain]

All that shows is that i am reading everything word for word, wasnt that what you said i wasn't doing in previous posts?

Clearly this isnt the case. Maybe Steven is onto something, and since no one has commented on my suspicions of Steven then this is the best we are gonna get. Heres it all compressed into nice little post nuggests...

Quote from: wesmancity on Today at 03:39:59 PM
I unvoted TCH, because i think bluestars has alot to answer for and when she does ill ether vote her or TCH.

Quote from: wesmancity on Today at 05:16:38 PM
Right im going to vote TCH i still think bluestars is town even though we have been at each others throats but feel that shes invloved in the game and looking for answers. TCH sorry mate the reaction you made at the start of the game still sticks in my mind and im sure you have a evil role some where.

Vote TCH

 

Quote from: wesmancity on Today at 12:22:40 PM
bwwwwaaaaahaahhhhaa aaaaahahahahah!!

all defensive! please im asking you a question re: your post, whats wrong in that?

When did i say your post where defensive?? stop putting words in my mouth you fool!

 

Two clear examples of flipflopping and backtracking although both seem just quite careless. Tied in with a claim with reading all posts. Always dodgy when your caught in a lie or misdirection, but not enough to hang a man on?

However, I still feel that i'm onto something with Steven who is still ducking me so maybe he is now trying to bring up this minor thing to go on wes.

[stevenryals]

However, I still feel that i'm onto something with Steven who is still ducking me so maybe he is now trying to bring up this minor thing to go on wes.

You're not onto anything hammer.  what questions are you even asking..  you made some points and i thought they were crap... maybe I missed it, but i didnt see any questions there, or really anything worth responding to.
I'll answer whatever questions you have, just post them.

[stevenryals]

My main three suspects

Stevenryals, In my opinion tryed to manipulate the town by setting up Miasg as a patsy to pick someone to lynch leaving us with no information and chaos in day two. Instead of answering my accusation, he threatened to modkill himself, which in my opinion might be a bluff.

Heres that something else Steven that isnt a modkill or a deadline!

if this is the post you are referring to Hammer, I responded to that in my first post day..

I like these mafia games and think they're fun... but when they drag on, i'd rather modkill myself and be done with it.. the game has picked up a bit now and seems to be moving at least, but for a while there it was nothing.. it was becoming a bore, and I was close to doing what I did in the last game (modkill), which if you remember right, I waiting until an opportune moment, and it exposed hippo for his evilness in the last game..  so yes, I would totally be willing to do that if it comes to it. 

as far as manipulating the town, thats' crap.. you haven't responded to any of my post explaining why this tactic would have worked brilliantly if it was executed correctly.  no need now as the game seems to be shaping a bit, but it's still dragging, and if I have to chose getting my work done or the mafia game, i'll chose the one that pays me       

[wesmancity]

FAO the skimmer HIPPO please read and pay attention

First of all this is what Happy said to me after i unvoted TCH and fos'ed Bluestars

@wes, it hasnt bothered you so far about voting and changing your vote at a whim, so why have you suddenly gone all hesitant when your the only person still to carry a vote?

This is how i replyed.

Yes, because my head is spinning and can not decide who to vote i have my sus. on Bluestars, StevenRyals and TCH and carnt decide who to vote first which would be best for the town. It was going to be TCH, but with Bluestars unvote: afro when it should of been me looks like shes not following the game properly. I am waiting for a answer from her before i vote her or TCH.

NOW HIPPO PAY ATTENTION, Happy said to me that im erratic and getting all defensive( I shall highlight for you so you can skim read like you have been doing all game)

I'm not rushing you, I'm asking why your voting is so erratic? I havent voted you, yet your getting all defensivee Laserblue has been.

and then a mere 1 an half hours later and a sinlge post from Afro and then Bluestars, you post...
I can understand your question to bluestars, but why remove your vote on TCH, to  only fos bluestars?
What youve done is say your own previous post was pointless and a throw-a-away comment, and just there to show your on the board. Maybe you are mafia and trying desperatly to make it look like your town.

Fos means nothing as everyone should be under the 'finger of suspicion', and no-one bothers counting them cause there worthless anyway. if 3 fosses=1 vote, then yeah, there usefull.

tbh, i dont reckon there is anything too sinister about Bluestars mistake, maybe she was rushed and her head got muddled, i'm sure ive done it many times in past mafia games. Maybe Godfather Steve has been defending her so vigourously knowing full well that she is town giving him browny points upon her death. Maybe Wes also knows she is town, and is trying hard to make something stick to her whilst trying to make the godfathers shit whiter than white in the process.

UNVOTE LASERBLUE, VOTE WESMANCITY

So this is how i have responed. i'll break it down for you "Me all defensive" hes the one whos calling me defensive, im just acting on what hes just said.

bwwwwaaaaahaahhhhaaaaaaahahahahah!!

all defensive! please im asking you a question re: your post, whats wrong in that?

Then Happy makes out that i called him defensive, Hippo are you following this

eh? at what point is my post defensive? what question have you asked me? let me see, what is my motive? motive of what? asking why your vote patterns are so erratic? asking why you bothered posting 1 an half hours before you changed your vote again because it has transpired you didnt believe in what you were writing in the first place?
you havent asked me a real question have you?... have you simply tries to side step my accusations? erm, I think the answer is yes.

So i then answer him saying this

When did i say your post where defensive?? stop putting words in my mouth you fool!

AND then you pipe up whit this!!, please tell me you understand now ffs!

While we're posting about wes' randomness. This amused/confused me earlier:

[wesmancity]

PLEASE TELL ME YOU, HAMMER AND STEVE UNDERSTAND AS YOU ALL NEED TO READ WHAT I SAID CAREFULLY.

Now im leaving work soon and will not be able to post till tomorrow as my computer at home is being fixed. So ill catch up in the morning and post when i get back home.

[hippo]

Oh i see. Calm down.

People say i twist words? you didn't say "me all defensive", like you've written in your little explanation. You wrote "all defensive!". How'm i supposed to know you meant "all defensive?". They're entirely different things, and it would have made more sense had you actually written what you meant.

But yeah, that's fair enough. You're still being very erratic though.

[laserblue]

How I am I one of your main suspicions? Instead of saying this can you offer some reason or explanation to these statements/accusations.

I have been putting valid points together on people and backing up what I have been saying. I have sniffed around and tried to get reactions and find some decent evidence to vote people. Exactly how is this pro active town play suspicious to you???

Can you please explain?

Ive just got back from work & tried to take in the recent posts & to be honest a few pages ago I thought I'd cracked it... I had at least 3  or four peeps I thought were evil & 3 or 4 I thought where town
I wrote my reasons on quite a long post (including the reasons I found you sus )

The peeps I found most sus then where tch, axeman & you ...... since then I have had my doubts as to whether you & axeman are both evil (well mafia together anyway) unless your both putting on a good act?
like I said I'm unsure  about you 2 now.... but the reply from tch was not really that convincing he relies on something that happened outside the game board so there's no way of knowing if he's telling the truth or not?

as for the post earlier on not saying much/seeming strange ...thats probably due me being at work at the time .... I went on to try & catch up reading the posts & didn't have a lot of time... I thought axeman was looking like he was going to loose it... hence the chill pill thing(it seemed funny at the time).... but he also posted 2 things about mike that really stuck out to me .. the first one was i think that mike & maybe others where being aggresive  .... I think axeman has been as aggresive in some of his posts .... the other was stuff about mike messing up his posts , which struck a nerve with me as I struggle with technology sometime & as everyone knows mess my posts up due to that.. I don't really find anything sus about it personally & it looked like he was grasping a bit.

 there have been 4 new posts since I started writing ... but I'm gonna post anyway.

christ another one just stop it & let me post ... please

[Sir Villain]

if this is the post you are referring to Hammer, I responded to that in my first post day..

I like these mafia games and think they're fun... but when they drag on, i'd rather modkill myself and be done with it.. the game has picked up a bit now and seems to be moving at least, but for a while there it was nothing.. it was becoming a bore, and I was close to doing what I did in the last game (modkill), which if you remember right, I waiting until an opportune moment, and it exposed hippo for his evilness in the last game..  so yes, I would totally be willing to do that if it comes to it. 

as far as manipulating the town, thats' crap.. you haven't responded to any of my post explaining why this tactic would have worked brilliantly if it was executed correctly.  no need now as the game seems to be shaping a bit, but it's still dragging, and if I have to chose getting my work done or the mafia game, i'll chose the one that pays me       

Yeah fair enough, but how on earth is this game dragging? The pages are flying past, and theres loads of action. It should be hard to get lynched on Day One. It shouldnt be easy which is what Modkills, and Deadlines make it.

[stevenryals]

that's why I said

"the game has picked up a bit now and seems to be moving, but for a while there it was nothing"

  meaning nothing was happening... which is bad and dreadfully boring.. now it's moving, and not boring..  dig?

[Quig]

Sorry. Mates parents are away. Having a multi-day party.

Once again, Steven is being a twat. Why? It'll ruin the game. More than a lurker. Tempted to just vote for him but he's prob town.

Wesman is acting completly susprisious with all his random blabbering.
FOS: Wesmancity

But my main vote is going to Vote: hippo purely because of him once again manipulating people words against them.