Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

[wesmancity]

What?? How is me giving my opinion on players suspect??? I'm asking you to tell me what CONTENT in my posts is suspect...what I'm confused about is what CONTENT you say you find suspicious...I get the other part now....so for now UNVOTE AFROBOY I'd like to hear what you have to say because honestly you are just confusing me. I'm not twisting anything you aren't being clear to me....or maybe I'm lost...either way...what have I stated that you disagree with...maybe that's a better way to find out what you are on about...and tell me I'm twisting things...hell I can't even figure out what you are saying in the first place!

Bluestars are you playing the same game we are?

Why are you unvoting Afroboy? you have not voted for him you voted me!!!, are you really reading everything or are you skimming posts?

The town needs answers here, please explain your slip up here?

Unvote TCH,

FOS Bluestars

[stevenryals]

And talk about tit for tat voting!!!! It’s on a major scale with bluestars vote but you don’t bring that up do you steve!! The pair of you look so evil! If I wasn’t voting for bluestars it would be you steve.

Bluestars is back to her old game, she's worse at being mafia than I am.  Within a day of her playing the last game I knew she was mafia..  I feel like she's a townie because she's back to her old style.  I have closer contact so I knew what days she was away and what days she was not.. when she's had a computer she's posted, which is info that I tried to share with you all by saying when she had training (at her request by the way).. and now you think we're both evil??  silly boy..


Bluestars, he cant tell you what content is in your post thats suspect, because he sees that you're back to your old style as well, and he knows you're not really good at protecting yourself (which is why you always die early, same as me) so he's coming after you because he already knows who's town and who's not..  simple as..  afroboy is mafia and I'm almost certain of it..  

he's been completely absent and hasn't done a thing to help the town..

so.. Afroboy, in the night phase, please tell Happyaxeman & Hammerbro & _________ that you want to have me killed because you've been labled.
 
dammit another post..

Why are you unvoting Afroboy? you have not voted for him you voted me!!!, are you really reading everything or are you skimming posts?

good pickup wes..  but I'm still pretty sure she's not mafia this time around..  and no i don't know her role (as you asked before) but i have a good feel... if she is, then i'm calling off the wedding.. 

[Happy Axeman]

Axeman is very quite, I've got my vote on him, but that's not brought him out of hiding...

what planet are you on? planet mafia by any chance?
Your vote on me means jack shit, cause you already know i'm a townie and your vote on me is simply a token gesture.
So my posts over weekend mean jack shit and i'm still hiding? moran. If i have time, I post.

so.. Afroboy, in the night phase, please tell Happyaxeman & Hammerbro & _________ that you want to have me killed because you've been labled.

are you trying to use subversive commenting or something, cause you mention my name in an awfull lot of your posts.
Vote me all you want you american idiot.

[MIASG]

Bluestars are you playing the same game we are? Why are you unvoting Afroboy? you have not voted for him you voted me!!!, are you really reading everything or are you skimming posts?  The town needs answers here, please explain your slip up here? Unvote TCH, FOS Bluestars

maybe it's the outside connection but Bluestars and Steven sure as hell defend each other with at time anger - and (unless they already know) they couldn't know what each other is .. and that the opposition to them is actually mafia.

Wes I can't see how you would vote for TCH and then 2 hours with nothing else written from or about him all of a sudden unvote him and only FOS Bluestars?  can you please explain that !

YB is a tough cookie to crack..  he's played this way every game I've seen him in.. 
he's been more active in this day than ever..  So to me that means he probably has a good role..  we know MIASG is probably JB, so there is only 1 or 2 other power roles in the game that I feel are good enough to make Yorkshireblue get more involved... just not sure if it's his role thats brought him out, or if he's just bored??  he's very confusing, and I can never tell who or what he is in these games....
wonder if he's ever had a powerful mafia role (ie not just a mafia member)... if not, then maybe that's the secret..  but I cant remember what roles he had and dont have time today to look.. if nobody else has figured it out, I'll go back tomorrow during work and see what I can find..

bet you don't and his posts are crazy - pure speculative .. possible alligning ?

no.  obviously you're in favor of manipulating what I said.  The idea was to give someone enough power to force quality reactions from people as it's not working for us yet.  most are sitting back and waiting and it's useless.  I never said we should just follow MIASG's vote, the idea is to give someone that most agree are town, and give them ultimate power.  When someone who has that ability asks questions of you, you would most certainly react differently than if just one vote hung in the balance.  sorry you are having difficulty understanding such a complicated matter.. 

crap utter crap .. if I had a vote on someone why would I all of a sudden change it because you have "granted" me special powers.  You wanted to follow my lead and get others on board but now your stating that's false?  re-read your original post because I think you will find it crystal clear in the view that people should be lynching who I choose.
 
Hippo's post (already quoted enough here it's a few back to read it ..  lazy people)  sums up why my vote stays on YB.  Has there been any attempt apart from a retraction of a vote to help town .. nope .nadda .. neyt .. not helping .. inactive .. people coming out trying to say he's good ... possible mafia godfather in my eyes.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

well it seems for some reason that i have somehow become the main suspect, so i will attempt again to explain how i cannot be mafia and voting for me is a waste of a vote.

Before the game started TP let slip that he hoped he wasn't on the same side as miasg as miasg would be trouble. Which i deduced that he had a power role of some sorts. I started the game with this knowledge and pm'd currieman during the first week to see if there would be any ramifications in using that piece of information. He said no.
During this time TP played his usual self centred game of let's accuse any other aussie and get them voted off. This involved both miasg and myself voting for him as i was happy to get rid of him so the rest of us could play the game properly.
I kept my TP information to myself as i had no idea what role miasg was and if he was evil then all well and good. However when he slipped up i went to wiki and checked, then posted the 2 roles he could be. I have no idea how important the other role was but miasg let it be known that he was Jack.
At that point i considered the TP situation and decided that i should let everyone know what i knew about him. I did so and people seem to believe it as he has no longer been getting votes. So if i was evil why would i come out with information to save a townie with a power role ?? It makes no logical sence unless i am a townie myself.

My lack of posting is a joke, i explained i would be posting less as i lost access at home but still chipped in at work.

So i must deduce that at least one of the people who have voted for me is mafia. Wes put on a vote but then quickly took if off for BLuestars. If he was mafia trying to bandwagon then he wouldn't have done that, so i'm inclined to believe he is innocent.
So that leaves Laser, Hammersbro and Mike, Hammersbro has not been posting, and of the other two i think Mike is more sus. He was quick to back Steve up in getting miasg to lead us to pick a lynch. Then his reasons for voting myself are week, just saying i've gone quiet when in fact many others are quieter.

I normally prefer to vote non playing people off as they detract from the game and that's why i'm going to

unvote Afro and Vote Hammersbro maybe a vote will get him back and playing

plus a big FOS MIKE

[stevenryals]

Vote me all you want you american idiot.

didnt expect this from you

[stevenryals]

Your vote on me means jack shit,

You mean that?  you mean a one vote doesnt matter?  guess we need something that holds more weight to get this game going..  which brings me back to my previous idea..  if we dont have a deadline, then we have to have something else..  otherwise I'll bring this day to an end myself..

[Sir Villain]

You mean that?  you mean a one vote doesnt matter?  guess we need something that holds more weight to get this game going..  which brings me back to my previous idea..  if we dont have a deadline, then we have to have something else..  otherwise I'll bring this day to an end myself..

hmmm, perhaps the lady doth protest too much? I think we have mafia rattled, and trying one last bluff?

[MIASG]

So if i was evil why would i come out with information to save a townie with a power role ?? It makes no logical sence unless i am a townie myself.

becuase it targets the other player.  You still don't know if he's good or evil same as earlier on.

taking you for your word I agree about hammerbro but I'm not going take my vote off YorkshireBlue unless he proves me wrong.

hmmm, perhaps the lady doth protest too much? I think we have mafia rattled, and trying one last bluff?

this smacks of mafia trying to get the townie to explode.  The townie logic would be to tell steve to calm down if he;s town and don't make the same mistake I did- so STEVE IF YOUR TOWN CALM DOWN.  He's done it before so why would you try to call his bluff.  Can't help.  Can't also help but seeing a 1-2 act with Happy axeman on steven. 

I've had this arguement before about 1 vote counting or not .. to me it does as it is your say in the game.  The majority may not be right.  if your certain you need others seeing your way.  To me the standout play is still Yorkshire Blue.

I'd say at this point of the game most if not all the mafia have probably voted and are on the multiple votes lis - it makes no sense for them to individually pick one person each .. at last count (sorry haven't updated since currie's last post) the multiples are:
Vote count
3 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue, Mikeblue)
2 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony ( YorkshireBlue, Masterzulu)
2 - StevenRyalls (Wesman, Sir Hammer)

interesting list I think. 

[Trick Pony]

VOTE : YorkshireBlue

Come out and defend yourself, im over you side stepping questions, obviously because your evil.

Its good to see Blustars back in the game a bit more

Im 80% sure that TCH is evil

Will post later on on everyone else, though YB where have you gone  hiding 

[MIASG]

   I'm not used to you agreeing with me on things TP 

[Happy Axeman]

didnt expect this from you

well in my eyes, you are currently an Idiot for not reading my posts, and tryng to spin shit saying i'm mafia, when you know full well i'm not. Mafia scum.

You mean that?  you mean a one vote doesnt matter?  guess we need something that holds more weight to get this game going..  which brings me back to my previous idea..  if we dont have a deadline, then we have to have something else..  otherwise I'll bring this day to an end myself..

two posts one after the other splitting my shortv single post up... and then dropping the comments about what ive actually said? Why not just quote my post in full? was it another vain attempt to try to make me look more suspicious?

You said i was in hiding, yet my posts a page or so before proves i'm not, yet you fail to acknowledge my suspicions of you and say im hiding. this is why i called you a moran, your vote on me does mean jack shit, cause like i said in the post you conveniently split, You know i'm town, so yes, your vote on me means jack shit. I actually had two votes on me at one point with Mikeblue, was i arsed about it? no, cause i have nothing to hide... so steven what is your point again? where am i hiding and what have i written which makes me look suspicious? 

If anyone is hiding its Hammersbro.

The townie logic would be to tell steve to calm down if he;s town and don't make the same mistake I did- so STEVE IF YOUR TOWN CALM DOWN.  He's done it before so why would you try to call his bluff.  Can't help.  Can't also help but seeing a 1-2 act with Happy axeman on steven. 

I've had this arguement before about 1 vote counting or not .. to me it does as it is your say in the game.  The majority may not be right.  if your certain you need others seeing your way.  To me the standout play is still Yorkshire Blue.

I'd say at this point of the game most if not all the mafia have probably voted and are on the multiple votes lis - it makes no sense for them to individually pick one person each .. at last count (sorry haven't updated since currie's last post) the multiples are:
Vote count
3 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue, Mikeblue)
2 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony ( YorkshireBlue, Masterzulu)
2 - StevenRyalls (Wesman, Sir Hammer)

interesting list I think. 

what do you mean, a 1-2 act? read the posts from the start, Steven has been wrongly gunning for me in nearly all his posts. he defends Bluestars for not being on, yet when i explain my lifes in turmoil at the mo, it flows above his head and tells me to come out of hiding, despite the fact i never was hiding in the first place?

Last time i'll say it, but i am a bog standard Townie with no power, apart from my vote during the day. I signed up and should of had Wes's role but currieman saw fit to hand it to wes instead despite me asking for the place first... Currie then had to make a new role for me, and for Zulu who signed up not long after me, which inturn makes me assume Zulu is also Town... although I'm not taking it for granted...

I'm not going to Vote Steven Just yet, I think he may of simply got something into his head and gone the wrong way about it. But my vote is staying on Laserblue. as anyone accusing him (or afroboy) gets there ear aggressivly chewed... which to me says that he is being too defensive by being aggressive in his replys to accusations. 

[Sir Villain]

this smacks of mafia trying to get the townie to explode.  The townie logic would be to tell steve to calm down if he;s town and don't make the same mistake I did- so STEVE IF YOUR TOWN CALM DOWN.  He's done it before so why would you try to call his bluff.  Can't help.  Can't also help but seeing a 1-2 act with Happy axeman on steven. 

No, it smacks of a player frustrating with one players attempt to hold the game hostage. Stevenryals is a good player and quite a nice guy, just on this game sometimes he gets incredibly frustrated and seems the need to get into the night phase quickly? If every day Steven doesnt get his way, he threatens to modkill himself then, how far are we going to get? Maybe he knows that if he threatens to modkill himself, that people will assume he's townie and suddenly trust him?

I.E Steven don't modkill yourself, and stop threatening to. Its embarassing. How would you feel if you were in a mafia, one of your partners got lynched first day and revealed the rest of you? Would make the game seem pointless and a waste of time. So does modkills like that. Currieman, I'm sure will set a deadline fairly soon so theres no need anyway?

[Happy Axeman]

3 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG, Trickpony)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
1 - Wesmancity(Bluestars)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)
1 - MasterZulu (mikeblue)
1 - StevenRyals (SirHammer)
1 - Hammersbro (tch)

not currenlty voted: WesMancity

I think thats a correct vote count. 

After looking through, Wes's Voting patterns seem extremly random, and changes at whim.
BlueStars has lost track of who she is actually voting within a few posts, tries to unvote Afro but has actually voted Wes!

currently Laserblue, StevenRyals, Wesmancity and MikeBlue carry most of my suspicions.

[wesmancity]

Wes I can't see how you would vote for TCH and then 2 hours with nothing else written from or about him all of a sudden unvote him and only FOS Bluestars?  can you please explain that !

Yes, because my head is spinning and can not decide who to vote i have my sus. on Bluestars, StevenRyals and TCH and carnt decide who to vote first which would be best for the town. It was going to be TCH, but with Bluestars unvote: afro when it should of been me looks like shes not following the game properly. I am waiting for a answer from her before i vote her or TCH.

[Happy Axeman]

I missed Afroboy off the list.

3 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG, Trickpony)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
1 - Wesmancity(Bluestars)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)
1 - MasterZulu (mikeblue)
1 - StevenRyals (SirHammer)
1 - Hammersbro (tch)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)

thats 10 different peeps up for nomination, with only Wes still to vote.
Derhammer, Hippo, Afroboy, Mikeblue and Miasg are the only peeps without a vote against there name.

@wes, it hasnt bothered you so far about voting and changing your vote at a whim, so why have you suddenly gone all hesitant when your the only person still to carry a vote?

[wesmancity]

@wes, it hasnt bothered you so far about voting and changing your vote at a whim, so why have you suddenly gone all hesitant when your the only person still to carry a vote?

what difference is my vote gonna make at the min?, it takes 8 votes for a lynch and we are no where near that. I am giving Bluestars the benafit of responding to my last post. Why are are you rushing me Happy? what is your motive behind it

[Happy Axeman]

No I'm not rushing you, I'm asking why your voting is so erratic? I havent voted you, yet your getting all defensive like Laserblue has been.

Right im going back to my first vote, i can not see any time for the day to end and this might speed things up a bit. Im going to unvote StevenRyals and Vote TCH. I think the mafia are playing a good game and its difficult to find them as i think they are the quiet ones. Maybe if we pull TCH for his first reaction it might start them sweating a little

and then a mere 1 an half hours later and a sinlge post from Afro and then Bluestars, you post...

Bluestars are you playing the same game we are?

Why are you unvoting Afroboy? you have not voted for him you voted me!!!, are you really reading everything or are you skimming posts?

The town needs answers here, please explain your slip up here?

Unvote TCH,

FOS Bluestars

I can understand your question to bluestars, but why remove your vote on TCH, to  only fos bluestars?
What youve done is say your own previous post was pointless and a throw-a-away comment, and just there to show your on the board. Maybe you are mafia and trying desperatly to make it look like your town.

Fos means nothing as everyone should be under the 'finger of suspicion', and no-one bothers counting them cause there worthless anyway. if 3 fosses=1 vote, then yeah, there usefull.

tbh, i dont reckon there is anything too sinister about Bluestars mistake, maybe she was rushed and her head got muddled, i'm sure ive done it many times in past mafia games. Maybe Godfather Steve has been defending her so vigourously knowing full well that she is town giving him browny points upon her death. Maybe Wes also knows she is town, and is trying hard to make something stick to her whilst trying to make the godfathers shit whiter than white in the process.

UNVOTE LASERBLUE, VOTE WESMANCITY

[hippo]

I missed Afroboy off the list.

3 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG, Trickpony)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
1 - Wesmancity(Bluestars)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)
1 - MasterZulu (mikeblue)
1 - StevenRyals (SirHammer)
1 - Hammersbro (tch)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)

thats 10 different peeps up for nomination, with only Wes still to vote.
Derhammer, Hippo, Afroboy, Mikeblue and Miasg are the only peeps without a vote against there name.

@wes, it hasnt bothered you so far about voting and changing your vote at a whim, so why have you suddenly gone all hesitant when your the only person still to carry a vote?

That's a ridiculous vote count. I mean, really? I know people might have different prime suspects, but for there to be 7 people all with one vote to their name is just stupid. There's got to be some sort of compromising done. Don't be so scared of actually having a vote that will actually matter.

Hammerbro has posted 7 times in 20 pages. He voted for Hammer for not posting, Trick Pony for over analysing some words, MIASG for not being clear in claiming and TCH for being the other australian. That's just lazy. I mean, you've basically not paid any attention to anything, and are voting entirely on the fact that 1 in 3 players will be evil. Each player has as much chance as being evil as anyone else (other than MIASG now), so picking 3 names and saying one will be evil is redundant. It's not a reason. Everyone can pick 3 random names and say one will be evil - chances are one will be, but it's not guaranteed is it? might be more than 1, might be less. It's just a random vote and not helpful. The random voting phase should be well and truly over by now. We'll only get somewhere, if people actually make educated guesses based on the posts.

And it's made even more lazy by the fact that there are some genuinely decent reasons for voting TCH - he has looked dodgy. But so do you.

[MIASG]

only 4 people voting against each other .. TCH and Hammerbro .. and TP and YorkshireBlue .. which is surprising considering all the reactions lately

glad to see a reaction from Axeman and Hammer about the 1-2's ... I was hoping you both wouldn't ignore it.

thats 10 different peeps up for nomination, with only Wes still to vote.

it won't last long and suprised me  

Derhammer, Hippo, Afroboy, Mikeblue and Miasg are the only peeps without a vote against there name.

Ok I understand why no votes against me but Derhammer, afroboy, and mikeblue are prime suspects in my eyes yet have no votes?  these guys are in my hit list after yorkshire blue.  I know they are also in others lists too .. maybe we keep being lead away from them ?  or they just keep hiding    
Hippo I feel will breeze through a few days as he posts just enough not to be accused of not posting .. and while not giving anything away isn't exactly looking like he's not helping town.  Honestly I can't figure out what to have a go at him for .. so if anything he's townie enough for me right now.