Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

[wesmancity]

No I'm not rushing you, I'm asking why your voting is so erratic? I havent voted you, yet your getting all defensive like Laserblue has been.

and then a mere 1 an half hours later and a sinlge post from Afro and then Bluestars, you post...
I can understand your question to bluestars, but why remove your vote on TCH, to  only fos bluestars?
What youve done is say your own previous post was pointless and a throw-a-away comment, and just there to show your on the board. Maybe you are mafia and trying desperatly to make it look like your town.

Fos means nothing as everyone should be under the 'finger of suspicion', and no-one bothers counting them cause there worthless anyway. if 3 fosses=1 vote, then yeah, there usefull.

tbh, i dont reckon there is anything too sinister about Bluestars mistake, maybe she was rushed and her head got muddled, i'm sure ive done it many times in past mafia games. Maybe Godfather Steve has been defending her so vigourously knowing full well that she is town giving him browny points upon her death. Maybe Wes also knows she is town, and is trying hard to make something stick to her whilst trying to make the godfathers shit whiter than white in the process.

UNVOTE LASERBLUE, VOTE WESMANCITY

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all defensive! please im asking you a question re: your post, whats wrong in that?

[Happy Axeman]

eh? at what point is my post defensive? what question have you asked me? let me see, what is my motive? motive of what? asking why your vote patterns are so erratic? asking why you bothered posting 1 an half hours before you changed your vote again because it has transpired you didnt believe in what you were writing in the first place?
you havent asked me a real question have you?... have you simply tries to side step my accusations? erm, I think the answer is yes.


3 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG, Trickpony)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
2 - Wesmancity(Bluestars, HappyAxeman)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)
1 - MasterZulu (mikeblue)
1 - StevenRyals (SirHammer)
1 - Hammersbro (tch)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)

[MIASG]

Wes I can't see how you would vote for TCH and then 2 hours with nothing else written from or about him all of a sudden unvote him and only FOS Bluestars?  can you please explain that !

Wes I know you are answering Happy Axeman right now but I believe I asked you first and you really haven't answered the question.

[Mikeblue]

only 4 people voting against each other .. TCH and Hammerbro .. and TP and YorkshireBlue .. which is surprising considering all the reactions lately

glad to see a reaction from Axeman and Hammer about the 1-2's ... I was hoping you both wouldn't ignore it.

 it won't last long and suprised me  
 Ok I understand why no votes against me but Derhammer, afroboy, and mikeblue are prime suspects in my eyes yet have no votes?  these guys are in my hit list after yorkshire blue.  I know they are also in others lists too .. maybe we keep being lead away from them ?  or they just keep hiding    
Hippo I feel will breeze through a few days as he posts just enough not to be accused of not posting .. and while not giving anything away isn't exactly looking like he's not helping town.  Honestly I can't figure out what to have a go at him for .. so if anything he's townie enough for me right now.

This post makes a lot of sense to me. On the whole mafia having two votes on one peron thing. As I think Trick Pony is most probably town at this point and looking at the list of votes Yorky and Zulu are voting trick pony. This is sus to me as I though they were both sus anyways so I'm going to UNVOTE TCH (FOR NOW) AND VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE

[Mikeblue]

well in my eyes, you are currently an Idiot for not reading my posts, and tryng to spin shit saying i'm mafia, when you know full well i'm not. Mafia scum.
two posts one after the other splitting my shortv single post up... and then dropping the comments about what ive actually said? Why not just quote my post in full? was it another vain attempt to try to make me look more suspicious?

You said i was in hiding, yet my posts a page or so before proves i'm not, yet you fail to acknowledge my suspicions of you and say im hiding. this is why i called you a moran, your vote on me does mean jack shit, cause like i said in the post you conveniently split, You know i'm town, so yes, your vote on me means jack shit. I actually had two votes on me at one point with Mikeblue, was i arsed about it? no, cause i have nothing to hide... so steven what is your point again? where am i hiding and what have i written which makes me look suspicious? 

If anyone is hiding its Hammersbro.
what do you mean, a 1-2 act? read the posts from the start, Steven has been wrongly gunning for me in nearly all his posts. he defends Bluestars for not being on, yet when i explain my lifes in turmoil at the mo, it flows above his head and tells me to come out of hiding, despite the fact i never was hiding in the first place?

Last time i'll say it, but i am a bog standard Townie with no power, apart from my vote during the day. I signed up and should of had Wes's role but currieman saw fit to hand it to wes instead despite me asking for the place first... Currie then had to make a new role for me, and for Zulu who signed up not long after me, which inturn makes me assume Zulu is also Town... although I'm not taking it for granted...

I'm not going to Vote Steven Just yet, I think he may of simply got something into his head and gone the wrong way about it. But my vote is staying on Laserblue. as anyone accusing him (or afroboy) gets there ear aggressivly chewed... which to me says that he is being too defensive by being aggressive in his replys to accusations. 

Happy this post stinks to me. It sounds like you are just shrugging everything off and if you were town I think you would try and defend yourself. Instead you try and deflect attention on to other people and give out the whole I don't care if you vote for me attitude....mafia to me I smell. You have not really tried to help much this game and seem happy to argue with people than help us dig for mafia. Normally when you are town you question everyone and I don't see much of this.

There is no reason to think that because you signed up late you would be Town. Purely depends on the number of roles given out and it may have been a case that if there was one more pleyer than he would have been mafia.

And how would Steve know you are town? Why is this? Are you both Mafia and know each others roles and trying to make it appear you are after each other when in fact you are together? Strange statement if you ask me.

FOS HappyAxeman

[Mikeblue]

This post makes a lot of sense to me. On the whole mafia having two votes on one peron thing. As I think Trick Pony is most probably town at this point and looking at the list of votes Yorky and Zulu are voting trick pony. This is sus to me as I though they were both sus anyways so I'm going to UNVOTE TCH (FOR NOW) AND VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE

Oops qouted wrong post meant the this one ....(see following post with MIASG quote)

[Mikeblue]

Quote from: Tommy Caton's hairstylist on Today at 01:15:31 AM
So if i was evil why would i come out with information to save a townie with a power role ?? It makes no logical sence unless i am a townie myself.
becuase it targets the other player.  You still don't know if he's good or evil same as earlier on.

taking you for your word I agree about hammerbro but I'm not going take my vote off YorkshireBlue unless he proves me wrong.
Quote from: Sir Hammer on Today at 01:54:27 AM

hmmm, perhaps the lady doth protest too much? I think we have mafia rattled, and trying one last bluff?

this smacks of mafia trying to get the townie to explode.  The townie logic would be to tell steve to calm down if he;s town and don't make the same mistake I did- so STEVE IF YOUR TOWN CALM DOWN.  He's done it before so why would you try to call his bluff.  Can't help.  Can't also help but seeing a 1-2 act with Happy axeman on steven. 

I've had this arguement before about 1 vote counting or not .. to me it does as it is your say in the game.  The majority may not be right.  if your certain you need others seeing your way.  To me the standout play is still Yorkshire Blue.

I'd say at this point of the game most if not all the mafia have probably voted and are on the multiple votes lis - it makes no sense for them to individually pick one person each .. at last count (sorry haven't updated since currie's last post) the multiples are:
Vote count
3 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue, Mikeblue)
2 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony ( YorkshireBlue, Masterzulu)
2 - StevenRyalls (Wesman, Sir Hammer)

interesting list I think. 

This post makes a lot of sense to me. On the whole mafia having two votes on one peron thing. As I think Trick Pony is most probably town at this point and looking at the list of votes Yorky and Zulu are voting trick pony. This is sus to me as I though they were both sus anyways so I'm going to UNVOTE TCH (FOR NOW) AND VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE

[Mikeblue]

TCH quote even.

Really struggling with this quick reply as when you page forward it dissapears again.

Having a right mare today 

[Happy Axeman]

Happy this post stinks to me. It sounds like you are just shrugging everything off and if you were town I think you would try and defend yourself. Instead you try and deflect attention on to other people and give out the whole I don't care if you vote for me attitude....mafia to me I smell. You have not really tried to help much this game and seem happy to argue with people than help us dig for mafia. Normally when you are town you question everyone and I don't see much of this.

There is no reason to think that because you signed up late you would be Town. Purely depends on the number of roles given out and it may have been a case that if there was one more pleyer than he would have been mafia.

And how would Steve know you are town? Why is this? Are you both Mafia and know each others roles and trying to make it appear you are after each other when in fact you are together? Strange statement if you ask me.

FOS HappyAxeman

I havent been helping the town? your another that has been saying that...
I think its funny how considering i havent been helping town, everyone i say i think is a suspect, comes out agrressive and inturn accuses me of being mafia... the only exception being Afroboy. so thats Mikeblue, StevenRyals, Laserblue and Wes. 

who am i arguing with? I'm throwing dirt around, digging and trying to suss out who's who. you getting upset because i'm ruffling feathers?

just to clarify: Actually all roles had been given out when i and Zulu signed up. I asked to be a replacement, but wes took the place to replace Amadjin instead. I spat my dummy out and Currie created two new roles. how is that random?

I suspect Steven of being mafia, so he would know I'm town, wouldnt he?
just as perhaps, you do too.

I dont think your fuckups on this page are funny, all its done is clog up this page with shit from you disguising the arguments over your mafiosa colleagues. all you had to do was preview your post and you can see its fucked up. That in my eyes is lazy, and another reason why i think you could be mafia.
QUICK REPLY: you have to copy the contents of the quickreply to your clipboard. highlight the text(left click drag), right click on highlighted text, select 'copy', turn page, right click, 'paste' into text area. simple.

[Sir Villain]

glad to see a reaction from Axeman and Hammer about the 1-2's ... I was hoping you both wouldn't ignore it.

As far as I'm concerned its just misguided? Have me and Axeman agreed on any issues? We both have annoyed steven, but Axeman hasnt commented on my reasons for suspecting Steven? I actually have Axeman down as one of my maybes because I've not made a decision on him yet.

Ok I understand why no votes against me but Derhammer, afroboy, and mikeblue are prime suspects in my eyes yet have no votes?  these guys are in my hit list after yorkshire blue.  I know they are also in others lists too .. maybe we keep being lead away from them ?  or they just keep hiding  

I'm not hiding, i've been right here, posting my suspicions. Stop trying to pull wool over the eyes of the others. If you are Jack Bauer then your barking up the wrong tree with me.

Hippos made a point about Hammerbro which quite a few others backed up, but no one wants to be the first to vote him for fear of being accused of bandwagoning him. In real life I texted him about an hour ago and told him to get online.

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Mikeblue has hit on something I was about to post.

The Majority isnt always right. This is called Ochlocracy (Politics student knowledge shining through), i.e the tyranny of the majority.if the majority are cannibals does that give them the right to eat the minority?

No, but in this game we know most of the players playing now are town with virtually no information. Some of the players are bad guys who have more information. Us as townies have to work hard and figure out who is who. Sometimes we are gonna make the wrong call, but we have to make sure we are always completely justified in who we lynch instead of relying on someone dying with less than the fair amount of votes. Deadline rules mean that whoever has the majority of votes, as long as its over half (4 votes in this case) the original vote requirement. If no-one has this amount of votes then its a no-lynch.

I think the best way to break this deadlock is to have 15 posts in a row. One from each player, highlighting their 3 main suspects. This will force everyone to have a proper think about what arguments have been made. Each post from each player will end in a vote. At the end of that its likely that someone will have more than 4 votes, and then this deadlock will end.

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My main three suspects

Stevenryals, In my opinion tryed to manipulate the town by setting up Miasg as a patsy to pick someone to lynch leaving us with no information and chaos in day two. Instead of answering my accusation, he threatened to modkill himself, which in my opinion might be a bluff.

You mean that?  you mean a one vote doesnt matter?  guess we need something that holds more weight to get this game going..  which brings me back to my previous idea..  if we dont have a deadline, then we have to have something else..  otherwise I'll bring this day to an end myself..

Heres that something else Steven that isnt a modkill or a deadline!

Minor suspicion-Afroboy, seemed to be eager to show that because he had attacked me early on, that made him innocent. Not at all sure though now, and he's probably pro-town

Hippo and Hammerbro, seems to be slipping under radar again without accusing people like he normally does and Hammerbro has to be treated as suspect for disappearing

Confirm Vote:stevenryals

[Sir Villain]

just to clarify: Actually all roles had been given out when i and Zulu signed up. I asked to be a replacement, but wes took the place to replace Amadjin instead. I spat my dummy out and Currie created two new roles. how is that random?

When Currieman and Amadjin joined late last time I gave them comedy roles, and in Curries case a non-town one. We should watch Axeman and Zulu

[stevenryals]

ok.. didnt expect to see 2 more pages since yesterday evening..  will read up when I get a chance at work, I'm leaving the house right now.. but just from skimming over, maybe I'm the only one who's noticed, but has happyaxeman ever been this active on day one?  ever?
interesting change in style of play, and most noticeable.   will read up and post at work later.

hammer, i did it in the last game to get things moving and it worked..  if this day keeps f**king dragging on... would do it again..

[Mikeblue]

Thats a new one.

Because I fucked up my posts (not allowed to edit) I am disgusing arguments? I have put half of them forward. You trying to get people to think your way and influence decisions?

I don't think I have come out and been overly aggressive towards you. I read a post from yourself and didn't like the content or tone. I commented on it and it is you in fact, who has come on and slated me for this. I think it is you whose feathers have been ruffled.

Thank you for clearing up the whole posting thing but still what is a clipboard? To use my lack of knowledge in computers to try and point suspicions towards me is a bit below the belt if you ask me.

Why would 2 new roles not be random??? I don't see your logic here??? Why couldn't he have created one mafia and one town. Its as if you are over stressing this point to make everyone think you are town like its a gospel statement or something. Stop going on about it, it means nothing. Just making you look more sus as it seems to be your best defence....well I have news...its not a defence and its shit!

You are are looking very sus IMHO at the moment. If you are town start making some more effort and try and help us than talking garbage.

[laserblue]

Happy.... has something upset you   because you seemed a bit pissed of at peeps today .... you say others are being aggresive .. you maybe correct, but that's exactly what your doing & it seems a bit like the kettle calling pot...... also as I have stated several times I find mike one of the most suspicious but to have a go at him for messing up his posts, suggesting he has done it on purpose just seems a bit like your just trying to create ammunition to throw at him.

please take this

 just a joke don't shout at me

[Happy Axeman]

but just from skimming over, maybe I'm the only one who's noticed, but has happyaxeman ever been this active on day one?  ever?
interesting change in style of play, and most noticeable.

Thank you for clearing up the whole posting thing but still what is a clipboard? To use my lack of knowledge in computers to try and point suspicions towards me is a bit below the belt if you ask me.

You are are looking very sus IMHO at the moment. If you are town start making some more effort and try and help us than talking garbage.

so Ive gone from hiding, to posting too much garbage? jesus christ, I really cant win. 
If Ive got time I post, i havent got time today and i really should be somewhere else, but ive sat here all morning and now into mid-afternoon and according to mikeblue, all my efforts have been garbage.  :'(

fuck it then, am going out, screw the game, real life is more important. 

Ive just told you how to use the clipboard. its nothing to do with the forum, its your own clipboard accessed via rightclick on the mouse, same as whats used in spreadsheets, Wordproccessors and every where else. lol

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Hippos made a point about Hammerbro which quite a few others backed up, but no one wants to be the first to vote him for fear of being accused of bandwagoning him. In real life I texted him about an hour ago and told him to get online.

um i voted for him a couple of pages ago plus all the vote counts have shown that seems rather strange for you to make such a glaring mistake.

[Mikeblue]

Happy.... has something upset you   because you seemed a bit pissed of at peeps today .... you say others are being aggresive .. you maybe correct, but that's exactly what your doing & it seems a bit like the kettle calling pot...... also as I have stated several times I find mike one of the most suspicious but to have a go at him for messing up his posts, suggesting he has done it on purpose just seems a bit like your just trying to create ammunition to throw at him.

please take this

 just a joke don't shout at me

How I am I one of your main suspicions? Instead of saying this can you offer some reason or explanation to these statements/accusations.

I have been putting valid points together on people and backing up what I have been saying. I have sniffed around and tried to get reactions and find some decent evidence to vote people. Exactly how is this pro active town play suspicious to you???

Can you please explain?

[Mikeblue]

so Ive gone from hiding, to posting too much garbage? jesus christ, I really cant win. 
If Ive got time I post, i havent got time today and i really should be somewhere else, but ive sat here all morning and now into mid-afternoon and according to mikeblue, all my efforts have been garbage.  :'(

fuck it then, am going out, screw the game, real life is more important. 

Ive just told you how to use the clipboard. its nothing to do with the forum, its your own clipboard accessed via rightclick on the mouse, same as whats used in spreadsheets, Wordproccessors and every where else. lol

Oh I see I was looking for it on the forum. I will use my note pad in future to copy into. Thanks.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Happy's reactions are getting similar to the game i modded which he modkilled himself due to the frustration of people not believing him being town, which he was.

His behaviour is very similar to that so i believe that he is a town. His arguement about being given a late role rings true. When i've added people late they rarely get a good role, either standard townie or mafia henchman depending on the numbers.

[Mikeblue]

Happy's reactions are getting similar to the game i modded which he modkilled himself due to the frustration of people not believing him being town, which he was.

His behaviour is very similar to that so i believe that he is a town. His arguement about being given a late role rings true. When i've added people late they rarely get a good role, either standard townie or mafia henchman depending on the numbers.

Exactly! Mafia Henchmen! So why should we take it as gospel that he is town.

And why are you sticking up for him? How can you be so sure about him? In cahoots or affiliation with somenone you know is town???

Tommy you just dig and dig!