Mafia 11 - Tripping the Rift Mafia - Town WIN

[Trick Pony]

gee a few days off (I see your back a day early - was it the votes against you) and your still speaking gibberish and just agreeing with everyone

you talk about roles in the mafia?  you know this because your mafia?  and I can't see where I suggest your  anywhere.  I gotta go to training .. I'm sure you'll have some drivel for me to read when I'm back

Nope not early just back before work tomorrow, and re-read the above posts, im not going to do the work for you, Iv just reaad 6 pages so recap and catch up 

[Trick Pony]

FOS - SVH, Steveryals, Mike Blue, and MIASG

Though as much as I would love to change my vote for the  MIASG he hasnt posted enough for me to link him to the other 3, I maybe wrong about one of the other three though im comfident they have been working together from the start.  MIASG is just a thorn that sticks out everywhere since I exposed him for fence sitting, though his input has improved he still wont aggrivate anyone else apart from me, So I believe he is evil though im not sure of his position in the MAFIA.

Though on the other hand there a quite a few people making posts but not targeting people to get a response so either they know the other players roles ie not being worried about them or they are innocent and trying to stay under the radar of the 4 FOS'ed above. 

Anyway im sure your sick of me "catchup posting" so ill wait for a response 

[Mikeblue]

It's pressure enough, because he didnt respond.. which is reason to be suspicious.. that's what mafia does.. just like you said.. instead of falling out, they'd rather sit back and let the rain cloud pass by without responding..

Those are good points.. I'll review that when I get to work in  the morning..  he's been suspect from day one (seeing as it's still day one actually)
as I remember he asked if there was a list.. I dont remember any reference to him having some kind of knowledge if a list actually exists..

I read the rules after I was told to by TCH and thats where I found out the ins and outs of the game. Don't post for a few days and everyone is teaming up against me. Mafia actions I think.

[Mikeblue]

FOS - SVH, Steveryals, Mike Blue, and MIASG

Though as much as I would love to change my vote for the  MIASG he hasnt posted enough for me to link him to the other 3, I maybe wrong about one of the other three though im comfident they have been working together from the start.  MIASG is just a thorn that sticks out everywhere since I exposed him for fence sitting, though his input has improved he still wont aggrivate anyone else apart from me, So I believe he is evil though im not sure of his position in the MAFIA.

Though on the other hand there a quite a few people making posts but not targeting people to get a response so either they know the other players roles ie not being worried about them or they are innocent and trying to stay under the radar of the 4 FOS'ed above. 

Anyway im sure your sick of me "catchup posting" so ill wait for a response 

I have said from a very early stage that I thought MIASG could well be evil.

I'm more inclined to think the people that arn't posting much are the ones to be suspected. But as they are not posting much they seem to slip through the radar as there isn't much to pick up on what they have said. People who have been posting regularly like myself, trying to hunt out the mafia are then getting the most attention of people simply cause we are posting more and therefore there is more for people to pick up on in our post simpley cause we are posting more. Surely this is what the mafia want, for innocents like me to post more and bring unwanted attention to ourselves when we are trying to find the evil ones whilst they sit back and laugh at us accusing each other.

[Steve Van Halen]

il reiterate that i have suspected trick pony and miasg due to the aggressive nature of their exchanges. I think it was hippo that made a good point that made me consider Mike Blue and switch votes but then Steveryals pointed out that he may have accidently made an early role claim so i decided to switch my vote back to my initial gut instinct - Trick Pony.

So in other words I listened to others in my vote for Mike Blue and others swayed me otherwise. I think that Trick Pony is trying to increase doubt in the main posters to aid his own evil intent. My vote stands

[Mikeblue]

Sorry for posting 3 in a row, but i've just read 12 pages and there was loads to say  . Anyway, i've compiled some stats to try and help us come to a decision, and which should be alright for when we're trying to link people tomorrow or whatever.

Firstly, here's a list of who's currently voted for who. As of after this post.

Vote Count
Mophead 2 (Stevenryals, Happy Axeman)
Mike Blue 2 (Trick Pony, Hippo)
Trick Pony 1 (MIASG)
Laserblue 1 (Yorkshire Blue)
SVH 1 (Mike Blue)
Stevenryals 1 (Mophead)

Then we have a list of how many times people have been voted for in the whole day, with who voted for them listed in brackets. I haven't included multiple votes (mikeblue has voted for stevenryals a few times, for example) and i haven't included the votes me, mophead and svh got for not posting, whilst we were either not playing yet, or not able to play.

Total Votes during the day
Stevenryals 4 (Mikeblue, Trick Pony, Happy Axeman, Mophead)
Mike Blue 4 (steveryals, laser blue, Trick Pony, Hippo)
MIASG 3 (Mikeblue, Bluestars, Afroboy)
Trick Pony 2 (steveryals, MIASG)
Bluestars 2 (Afroboy, Hippo)
Mophead 2 (steveryals, Happy Axeman)
SVH 1 (Mikeblue)
Yorkshire blue 1 (steveryals)
Laserblue 1 (yorkshire)
Axeman 1 (mophead)
Yorkshireblue 1 (Mikeblue)

And finally, and probably most helpfully, we have the people who have attracted the most suspicion (in the form of FOS) throughout the day. Again, who did it's in brackets.

Most Suspected Players
mikeblue 6 (Yorkshire blue, Afroboy, Stevenryals, Bluestars, Laser Blue, MIASG)
stevenryals 5 (Afroboy, Happy Axeman, Mike Blue, SVH, LaserBlue)
Trick Pony 3 (SVH, LaserBlue, StevenRyals)
bluestarsneyes 2 (StevenRyals, LaserBlue)
MIASG 2 (Afroboy, Trick Pony, MikeBlue)
laserblue 2 (Afroboy, StevenRyals)
SVH 2 (Mikeblue, Stevenryals, Mophead)
Mophead 2 (Stevenryals, LaserBlue)
axeman 1 (LaserBlue)
yorkshire 1 (Bluestars)

So Mikeblue's the person who has attracted the most suspicion over the course of the day. Could be a sensible resolution to our dead-end?

unvote bluestars
vote mikeblue

I found all this very interesting. Could it be that you have put all these facts together to try and portray an innocent role when in fact you are guilty as hell??? I wonder???

Also it appeared to me that you have targeted a number of people that you may well know if they are innocent and trying to start a bandwagon on any of them as as long as one of them gets lynched then you are happy???

Also your argument to lynch me even though you state I may well be innocent is ridiculous. Your reason being that it will give most information??? So lynching an innocent is good for the townies how exactly???

FOS HIPPO BIG TIME!

[Mikeblue]

I wasn't getting confused, this was the knowledge of lists i was referring to.

It's not exactly concrete evidence - the reason i initially mentioned it was because it was more suspicious than the editing which you'd spent ages talking about. Nobody has given themselves away majorly, but as mike has been the most suspected and voted for, it'll give us the most information about everyone elses activity.

But as i've said previously, whatever we decide, we need to do it pretty sharpish now. We don't want someone getting lynched that only 3 people agree on and have voted for (because a number that small could actually be just the mafia group, although it'd be impossible to prove). Maybe we should narrow it down to a choice between 3 or something? and then everyone vote for one of those, to make sure there's some kind of proper majority to decide it.

The 3 most suspected players have been Trick Pony, Mikeblue and Stevenryals, if we think it's worthwhile everyone making a choice between those players? Otherwise we're not getting anywhere.

This is the post where he is trying to get 1 of 3 voted. Trying to influence everybody else to vote. Not saying it is definate but is very very dubious in my opinion.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

12 hours to go guys

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Vote count as it was before


MikeBlue         2 Votes
Trick Pony       2 Votes
Bluestars         1 Vote
LaserBlue         1 Vote
Mophead          1 Vote
SVH                1 Vote

Players who have not voted are AfroBoy, Bluestars, Mophead and Stevenryals

[Trick Pony]

il reiterate that i have suspected trick pony and miasg due to the aggressive nature of their exchanges. I think it was hippo that made a good point that made me consider Mike Blue and switch votes but then Steveryals pointed out that he may have accidently made an early role claim so i decided to switch my vote back to my initial gut instinct - Trick Pony.

So in other words I listened to others in my vote for Mike Blue and others swayed me otherwise. I think that Trick Pony is trying to increase doubt in the main posters to aid his own evil intent. My vote stands

I think you need to eat something SVH as your gut in instinct is way of track, try a MIASG pie and down it with a Steveryles schooner 

Though note taken as you avoided the defence for Mike also no mention of Steveryles in there either .. smells fishy to me

[Steve Van Halen]

There you go again trying to sway my vote towards miasg! it aint working pal!

[Mikeblue]

Well well. The hour will soon be upon us.

I have thought about this a long and hard and it may look suspicious to some but I'm sure some will understand why I am doing this. At this moment in time I am very suspicious of Hippo, MIASG, SVH, Trick Pony, Bluestars and Mophead. I also think Steveryals may have a special role of some kind. Though nobody seems to share my suspion of SVH as I have pointed out a few times earlier with my reasons. Really everyone is still under suspion as far as I am concerned. The only person who I know to be a townie is me.

I do what I do now simply because I myself am looking like I may be getting lynched. And as I am innocent and want to continue playing I therfore feel it is in every townies interest for me to do this as well as my own obviously. I'm preparedto gamble that Trick Pony is guilty and follow people in to get him lynched. I am not certain of his guilt but am certain of my own innocence so feel I must take this course of action and he is the one with most holes in his story at the moment. I do not want to wait to the last minute to do this as I want to be honest and open with everyone. This is not starting a bandwagon on him just simply tactical. Obviously I do not want to get lynched myself and the only way for this not to happen is to get some one with more votes than me.

Que the mafia boys now teaming up saying that I am guilty and this is Mafia behaviour. It will be interesting to see who actually does this to me. Everybody take note as this could stand us townies in good stead for later in the game.

UNVOTE SVH AND VOTE TRICK PONY

[stevenryals]

A few things to clear up from your deluded state Steve 

Before the game started TCH and MIASG explained the game and how things roll. So basically they told me what the rolls are and that MAFIA get PMed a list of other MAFIA which is what I was talking about. I presume that you all knew about the list from previous games apart from the other newbies. 

yea, thats why I asked MIASG what went down... he says they told you and you read previous games..so you should be a knowledgable as anyone else now, adn thus the reason for my unvote previously  (that and the post from hippo with Mikeblue mentioning the list previously to you mentioning it, which all makes the entire argument moot)

[stevenryals]

I agree it does seem quite a weak move for an experienced player though 

Also I have noticed that Steveryals and SVH are defending Mike Blue once again so I believe the three of them are MAFIA, I think they have all voted for each other to escape the radar though they are easily changing votes and dismissing previous arguments on each other.
so FOS Steveryals and SVH are defending Mike Blue

funny how not voting someone makes you evil... and voting someone makes you evil..  ?? 

My thoughs on mikeblue are that he's possibly a pro-town role..  My thouhts on SVH is that he's evil.  He's just plalying a good game and i cant find anything yet except that his posts are very deflective and short, which make it hard to pick holes in his game..  he'll screw up eventually though..

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Vote count now


Trick Pony       3 Votes
MikeBlue         2 Votes
Bluestars         1 Vote
LaserBlue         1 Vote
Mophead          1 Vote

Players who have not voted are AfroBoy, Bluestars, Mophead and Stevenryals

[stevenryals]

nice way to deflect the "blame" on me if he's innocent.  I've stated why I think he's evil .. if you've decided to vote for him you have done that on your own decision not mine .. or are you trying to start a bandwagon to vote off 2 innocents .. hmm. 
TP was here when I voted for him and he had plenty of time to respond - which he did.

and I agree Afroboy is too quiet ..

FOS SVH, Afroboy

make up your mind evil MIASG... why are you talking about 2 innocents when you voted for me  obviously you voted for me thinking im evil though you are talking about a bandwagon involving me and you.  So either you are decieving everyone in saying your innocent or you know that I am innocent  and are keeping your safe unprovocative vote on myself so others dont vote for you, so once again sitting in a safe place not aggravating other more suspicious candidates, you evil little man

I was going to ask the same thing..  It's almost as if MIASG has put the proverbial olive branch out by saying SVH is trying to lynch TWO townies..  This caught me offgaurd at first, thinking, now.. are these two masons.. and the banter going back and forth just to distract the rest....
I guess it could mean four things.
1) masons
2) mafia, playing well
3) miasg genuinely think tricky is innocent
4) miasg is evil trying to get a friend in the game...

any votes on which?

I think you're points here Trick Pony are valid..  He's bantered back and forth with you, voted for you, fos'd you, you've done the same.. and now he's put you both in the same boat..  not sure what to think about that..

[Mikeblue]

funny how not voting someone makes you evil... and voting someone makes you evil..  ?? 

My thoughs on mikeblue are that he's possibly a pro-town role..  My thouhts on SVH is that he's evil.  He's just plalying a good game and i cant find anything yet except that his posts are very deflective and short, which make it hard to pick holes in his game..  he'll screw up eventually though..

My point exactly with SVH

[stevenryals]

I think you need to eat something SVH as your gut in instinct is way of track, try a MIASG pie and down it with a Steveryles schooner 

Though note taken as you avoided the defence for Mike also no mention of Steveryles in there either .. smells fishy to me

you didnt see my name mentioned in there??  it was there.. seems like every post he tries to mention me..
he knows I'm town, and he think many of you think I'm town as well..  so he's trying to establish a link with me.. which would be good for him as I believe with 91.6% accuracy that he's evil/cult/serial killer/etc etc...

FOS SVH  for saying my name more than bluestars  lol (for those of you who dont know, she my gf)

[Steve Van Halen]

im just trying to use experience gained from previous games. a good start increases the chances of a town victory so while it is unlikely we need to do the best we can to root out evil. hard to do so when only a handful of us are posting regularly and are too busy accusing each other!

im convinced steveryals is innocent which is why i have defended him in the hope that no one trys to lynch him. this may change but if he is mafia he is yet to slip up but mystic meg he aint, his calculations about me are way off! im not trying to establish a link with you, that would be foolish at this early stage.

not too sure about anyone else but im convinced that trick pony is mafia and im suspicous of miasg and mophead.

yorkshire blue has gone quiet, cant remember reading an afroboy or laser blue post either (but the latter could be because several of you have blue in your usernames!) . havent read much into hippos comments to be suspicous of him either

[MIASG]

3) miasg genuinely think tricky is innocent

I haven't changed my vote I think he's evil - I'm just saying if I'm wrong (and mafia will know) the blame on an innocent going was going to be on my head. 

Mikeblue you've claimed innosense  - follow that up with the name of your character ?  mafia will know anyway but the rest of us might have 1 less target to look at.