Mafia 11 - Tripping the Rift Mafia - Town WIN

[hippo]

I wasn't getting confused, this was the knowledge of lists i was referring to.

blue stars is cause she is trying to make out that she hasn't got a list when she has one!

And she must be evil for that as Townies don't have a list of Townies 

Steve you better not be cheating with your girlfriend.

I want a stewards lol.

It's not exactly concrete evidence - the reason i initially mentioned it was because it was more suspicious than the editing which you'd spent ages talking about. Nobody has given themselves away majorly, but as mike has been the most suspected and voted for, it'll give us the most information about everyone elses activity.

But as i've said previously, whatever we decide, we need to do it pretty sharpish now. We don't want someone getting lynched that only 3 people agree on and have voted for (because a number that small could actually be just the mafia group, although it'd be impossible to prove). Maybe we should narrow it down to a choice between 3 or something? and then everyone vote for one of those, to make sure there's some kind of proper majority to decide it.

The 3 most suspected players have been Trick Pony, Mikeblue and Stevenryals, if we think it's worthwhile everyone making a choice between those players? Otherwise we're not getting anywhere.

[stevenryals]

I want to know if MIASG told him outside the thread if Mafia has a list of who else is mafia..  if so, then his comment was just that... if not.. then he revealed that he had a list..

if yorkshire can't see that, then he will be my next vote as that would have to be considered 100% protection..

[hippo]

I want to know if MIASG told him outside the thread if Mafia has a list of who else is mafia..  if so, then his comment was just that... if not.. then he revealed that he had a list..

if yorkshire can't see that, then he will be my next vote as that would have to be considered 100% protection..

Right, i really don't understand why you're going way over the top on a very minor piece of evidence. People working out that the mafia know who each other are isn't suspicious. The reason i pointed it out for Mike was that he just mentioned it randomly straight away and i thought it was odd - but it's not something that i'd say is a reason alone to lynch someone. Mike said this within the first 5 posts, and then it got discussed a little bit. Why would it then be suspicious for Trick Pony to know about it?

And before you start, what i'm doing isn't defending Trick Pony, because i don't know what they are, it's pointing out the massive flaws in your argument so that you don't just manipulate a load of people in to voting how you want them to. You've only gone after him since you knew he wasn't back to defend himself. Why's that then?

I voted for bluestars with a pretty valid reason for doing so, and you came out and attacked me for it. You didn't have any reasons for doing so, you just seemingly didn't like me voting for her. The reason you gave for not liking my vote was that i hadn't voted for somebody you'd accused yourself. You do seem pretty keen to get people to vote the way you want them to, don't you? Strikes me as a pretty manipulative tactic from a supposed townie?

[stevenryals]

Firstly, Show me with a quote where mike said that, because I cant seem to find it..  I posted a quote of what I thought you may be talking about... but what you are saying makes me think you are referring to a completley different post..  you didnt really respond to that either, so I'm not sure if I found it but you and I disagree on its meaning, or if I missed it entirely..

You say: 

People working out that the mafia know who each other are isn't suspicious.

why would someone assume that mafia have a list if they are innocent and have a role that displays only thier character.  Townie PM's have a charachter, thats it.. (unless you're masons)but nobody elses role on it and certainly no lists, and if it was my first game.. I wouldnt assume that the mafia had an advantage on the town... but he has done this, which make me think either he's mafia or MIASG has told him off the thread that the mafia get this list.. and that's why I've asked MIASG to confirm or deny..

Strikes me as a pretty manipulative tactic from a supposed townie?

digging through posts, trying to find flaws in others arguments, and slipups by mafia is exactly what a you and I are doing.. Posting those flaws are what we are doing.. it doesnt make you a townie or mafia..  you could very well be mafia? who knows.  I am almost positive that mophead is guilty of something, but I cant find anything in his posts... well..  not anything definitive at least..  to suggest with enough certainty for others to vote for him.  I think Trick Pony has made a mistake and I am trying to capitalize on that.  If you have a better option for us to vot for please, come clean and tell us so we can make an informed decision.  Otherwise, it just seems like you dont like the information that I've brought forward.

I'm only one vote so I cant really "over react", but I'm using the same type of strategy "the newbie didnt know" strategy.. that you are using to vote for mikeblue..

I'm just not so sure we need to lynch mikeblue as I feel he's roleclaimed in an earlier thread..  dotn want to make a big deal about it.. because it could come back and bite us in the end..  but read into it yourself..

and SVH.. you are being too nice to me.. something is wrong..  what gives..   

[hippo]

I quoted the thing where mike said it a few posts above this one. Like i've stressed again and again though, it's not something i think should be used as a reason that he's definitively guilty. In fact, i have no idea if he is or not. The reason i have voted for him, and think he should be lynched, is because he has voted and been voted for, and suspected the greatest number of times. Finding out definitively what he is, will therefore give the town the greatest amount of information possible about the voting habits from today. Simple as that.

And i'd be fine with you putting this amount of pressure on trick pony, if he was actually here to feel the pressure and slip up. But he's not. So i don't see what it's going to achieve? Other than starting a bandwagon on him. He might be evil though, because no such bandwagon has yet happened. But then, that might just be because a few people haven't been on today? I really don't know. It's day one.

SVH is playing like he doesn't want any conflict, doesn't want any attention, but posting enough to be deemed active, and accusing people that someone else has already mentioned, so not instigating anything. He might just be trying to avoid the same mistakes as always, like he says, but then, he might not.

[stevenryals]

Here is mophead's entire involvement in this game..  every post with the exception of one, which was me because he didnt log out of my computer..  (even though he's been TOLD!!!  100x... Next time its 100 pushups and 10 laps around the pitch)

im kinda new so im a little new on the rules.

Ok, i can understand this..

I must agree with Afro Boy on this one.It is pretty suspicous.

Leave the blame on afroboy if it comes to it

that makes you seem suspicous.
vote Happy Axeman

ok that was quick..

i think stevens a townie for trying to get rid of mafia. then again he could just be trying to get us all to turn against each other,and be the last one standing.

hey.. thanks..  I appreciate it..  (the first part at least)

happy axeman is just trying to get allegencies for support so he wont get lynched in the end.
thats a good point. good job steve.

Thanks again, thanks for noticing all the hard work I've been doing..

im becoming even sure stevens mafia, because it looks like hes using a lot uf us for support and trying to prove his innocence.
VOTE STEVEN RYALS

WAIT A SECOND.. I THOUGHT WE WERE BUDDIES, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ALL "GOOD JOB STEVE" AND "I THINK HE'S INNOCENT" AND THAT.. WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT?  GEEZZ!!!!

youre right UNVOTE HAPPY AXEMAN VOTE STEVENRYALS im still new

I see.. the "im new deal.." thats fine my friend...  (you're grounded)

no problem with me. i mean i have before.

doesnt mean anything to me..

i have to say steve and SVH are looking more mafia and that there are partners.
FOS SVH

Why? any details will be much appreciated  

wrong i have done more than vote and fos'd people,i have not only had 10 word posts either.

While technically wrong... there have been a couple posts without a vote or fos... and a few extra words.. so yes you are right i am wrong..

does anyone else think this is the actions of evil?  anyone care to give thier opinions on mophead?

[stevenryals]

I quoted the thing where mike said it a few posts above this one.

oh i see it, i totally  missed that..  so that's probably where trick pony got this from then.. 
I just hope he doesnt turn out to be a big town role..  like a detective or something like that..

And i'd be fine with you putting this amount of pressure on trick pony, if he was actually here to feel the pressure and slip up. But he's not. So i don't see what it's going to achieve? Other than starting a bandwagon on him. He might be evil though, because no such bandwagon has yet happened. But then, that might just be because a few people haven't been on today? I really don't know. It's day one.

in light of mike's previous post mentioning the list..  i must UNVOTE TRICK PONY as my whole basis for voting has now completely lost its foundation..

SVH is playing like he doesn't want any conflict, doesn't want any attention, but posting enough to be deemed active, and accusing people that someone else has already mentioned, so not instigating anything. He might just be trying to avoid the same mistakes as always, like he says, but then, he might not.

I addressed this a bit in my previous post..  wondering why he's being so nice.. he's quieter than usual for sure..

[bluestarsneyes]

Once again, I go away for a DAY and there is a posting frenzy! BUT...good for the game, I'm not finished reading but had to jump on and make a few points.

First off steven you for SURE have missed something about your belaboring this "list" point...you mentioned townies do not know others roles and mafia are the only ones that know each other, there are other roles that are possible in these games that know of others roles without being mafia, last games we've had I distinctly remember Sir Hammer was a mason and was aware of his other mason and we killed him off because he role claimed and no one believed him! (course it was hammer and he did talk alot..lol!) anyway, I'm not sure why you left this out and are belaboring this list point...see me thinks thats very odd for such a smart player...hhhmmm..

Next point, trickpony posted very plainly that he would be out until Tues or Wed so having him in the lineup of votes right now without eveng giving him a chance to defend himself is VERY wrong if you ask me.

THEN hippo your list of narrowing to votes down to three was VERY ODD and probably the most suspicious thing to happen in the game thus far...you didn't take the ones with the top THREE votes you pick trickpony (who is out and clearly warned us he'd be out), mikeblue, and steven ryals....there were others that had more votes than these three...that seems a very odd way to pull those random names out...not to MENTION that you convientently left off MIASG your vote list entirely and I for one know he had at least one vote from me.

All very suspect if you ask me just reading on this first group....I'll keep reading and might add more later.

[bluestarsneyes]

Well crap there you go Steve posting while I'm posting! UGH...you are bored at work...lol!

Oh first off let me defend myself..I see I was voted by Hippo because he states I voted to kill off amadjin and roomforrookie when they were already going to be replaced...WRONG! Read my posts because I said if we have to vote someone off fine, otherwise replace them for inactivity! I even state that quite plainly in my post about roomforrookie...so your line of voting for me is completely garbage because others voted even after me both times.

It doesn't help the game to have folks that aren't participating at all if they are innonocents then they aren't helping us find mafia, and if they are mafia they can't kill us townies if they aren't here...so they are worthless to the game..duh!

Now off to read Steven's hilariously long post on mophead that could be evil but I still think steven's eyes are clouded by the fact that he's 11 and sits right next to him...lol!

[bluestarsneyes]

I'm just not so sure we need to lynch mikeblue as I feel he's roleclaimed in an earlier thread..  dotn want to make a big deal about it.. because it could come back and bite us in the end..  but read into it yourself..

what post are you talking about...heck you've quoted everyone else...why leave this one out?

[bluestarsneyes]

nevermind, think I see it now.

[stevenryals]

bluestars are you role claiming as the "lost and confused helpless lady"?  lol

as for your point on hippo's #'s being wrong..  if you feel they are wrong, post the CORRECT numbers... because I couldnt be arsed to go back and do all that..  it's entirely too much work.. but since you seem to already have the #'s ready for us.. please do us a favor and post them to the board.

[mophead]

hello hippo, hows tricks? not seen you for a while. 

ive just spent ages trying to read whats transpired so far, 12 bloody pages, and we are no where near getting a majority lynch. 

I have this hunch that SteRyals has seen Mopheads PM's and knows he's evil now.
UNVOTE STEVERYALS, sorry kiddo, blame steve lol.  VOTE MOPHEAD.

I dont trust MrRyals yet, but Mophead's posts do seem very erratic in what he says and votes, his mind changes like the wind, but then again maybe ive just forgot what its like to be 11 again.  :'( anyway, i just feel ive got to vote for him.

Laserblue is another i seem to feel suspicious towards, as i do his nemesis, Afroboy.
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sorry i was away for a couple of days

[stevenryals]

come on dude... get outside the quotes!!!!

[stevenryals]

(by the way, that post didnt even meet your 10 word requirement mophead) 

[stevenryals]

was just thinking.... who has afroboy voted for?   hmm...  i think the term is called "waffling"...  or maybe not.. i'm not a gramatician...

Afroboy is riding the fence like it's a fine tuned sports car..  you know if you have one leg on one side and one on the other... that can cause permanent dammage.. 

[stevenryals]

Afroboy has FOS'd MIASG & Bluestars and has not voted for anyone..

Also, he's not been FOS'd by anyone..  If he's mafia he's doing a very good job..

[mophead]

alright steven you convinced you are not a a mafia. plus where has afroboy been.


FOS AFROBOY

[mophead]

forgot this


UNVOTE STEVEN RYALS

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Vote count.............



MikeBlue         2 Votes
Trick Pony       2 Votes
Bluestars         1 Vote
LaserBlue         1 Vote
Mophead          1 Vote
SVH                1 Vote


Players who have not voted are AfroBoy, Bluestars, Mophead and Stevenryals

There are 24 hours to go till the end of Day One, so if no one reaches 7 votes then i will take the person with the most votes and they will be lynched. In the case of a tie i will randomly pick the player to be lynched from those with with most votes. If someone reaches 7 votes today please stop posting until i arrive to lynch them and lock the topic.