Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game *Mafia Win*

[hippo]

There may not be a cult but does anyone else think somethings up with having Henchmen and Zealots?  

Well, zealot implies extremism/terrorism doesn't it? Unless it's used for something else in Harry Potter? So that's something to worry about. However, if that is the case, we do know that the mafia don't ALL have terrorist capabilities, because of the differentiating between a normal henchman and a zealot.

Can you explain this "SVH is in a group" stuff? Like Bluestars said, it seems a rather specific thing to say.

[Steve Van Halen]

in response to bluestars :-
svh - I do think SVH is in a group of some sorts .. I'm hoping to find out which one.   SVH footynewb clearly said the lynch happened and to lock the thread - pretty hard to miss.

yorkie - what I meant was I didn't think yorkie was town - which as it turns out I was wrong.  There may not be a cult but does anyone else think somethings up with having Henchmen and Zealots?   you said he was a wasted vote but that also doesn't mean you thought he was town.  In fact it was the same reason why I went with BBM - I think it was pretty even at the time.  Can't see how that makes me mafia specifically.  

FOS Amadjin - been on the site but not here = not good enough.

in resposne to StevenRyals - I'm very much a big 'ol harmless townie. I've said many times I wasn't 100% convinced about BBM and there seemed to be this massive push without giving him a go after day 1 - I was thinking easy bandwagon and nothings wrong with questioning decisions over's have decided is fact.  I got no hint that anyone knew this for fact.  

[Steve Van Halen]

I apologise about that, I meant to add the following below it.

I saw that Footynewb and said the lynch had happened but I thought his vote was the 7th and disregarded his comment as he isnt the moderator. I then changed my vote as BBM was going to be lynched anyway. So no, not hard to miss just a genuine miscalculation

[Steve Van Halen]

You've credited me with this "theory" twice now...it wasn't my "theory" at all..and as a matter of fact I said quite clearly that Yorkshireblue hadn't logged onto the site since Feb 12th and he would be a wasted vote...he literally was the only player we could confirm as worthless. However, you mentioning it as the "bluestars theory"....seems a bit of an effort to deflect.

Here another post that is what it is.....First Miasg plants a thought that SVH could be Mason or Mafia...um...alrigh t...that's specific...either he's evil or he has this specific towny role...just find that a bit off....

Then Miasg...once again plants another idea that Yorkie is something other than normal townie....well..tha t turned out to be false...

I find the posting of SVH and MIASG to both be very Mafia in nature...planting little bits of ideas, deflection, not to mention the banter of Hammer and SVH early in the game....seems all a bit different looking at it in the light of day.

VOTE SVH

You were saying that he could possibly be the godfather and thats the reason why the mafia had perhaps missed a deadline as an explanation why there were no kills that night. I thought this was a good theory and went along with it which is why i voted for YB.

[Steve Van Halen]

Yes it is very weird that there have been no mafia kills as yet...

But Happy... you need to get your facts straight...
I went from Hippo (who i still think is evil) to BBM as it was obvious no one was going to listen to reason and just leave him hanging, as we all knew he was no threat to us... and the day just needed to end...

You were in fact the one that jumped from Yorkie to BBM... being the 2nd last vote needed to lynch him...
Interesting...

Thre reason SVH looks evil is he jumped after it was clear the voting had ended and the thread should have been locked...
Funnily enough... the person that came on and could have locked it (Sir Villain) decided to post instead and turns out to be evil... surprise surprise...
It was a hard claim to believe... as it would make him a certain target for Mafia at night...

FOS Hippo, SVH and Axeman...

I'll stress again - miscalculation. voting HAD NOT ENDED as the thread hadnt been locked. I thought your vote was the 7th so I changed mine to finish the day off. If your vote was the 7th vote and I hadnt changed mine someone else would have

[bluestarsneyes]

You were saying that he could possibly be the godfather and thats the reason why the mafia had perhaps missed a deadline as an explanation why there were no kills that night. I thought this was a good theory and went along with it which is why i voted for YB.

Find the quote....I never once remember stating he was the godfather.

[Steve Van Halen]

theres 35 pages!  I think you came up with the theory of a lazy godfather and I latched onto your statement that YB hasnt visited the site in a while. So perhaps it wasnt actually your theory but I put two of your ideas together.

[stevenryals]

I did forget that no one locked the thread and that SVH miscounted.

As for steve i still think there is a possibility that u r recruted in the cult

is there an ignore button around here anywhere?  I think that you don't read the game, and just post random thoughts based on the last few posts that you actually read..  

answer this question if you read the entire thread:  do you think Sir Villian planned on claiming Harry Potter from the start? or thought of it after the first night?


and SVH, i'm pretty sure that was my theory, and i still think we should have 'left him by the pocket' so to say..  and went for someone else yesterday...  turns out he wasn't the godfather, but he was useless anyway, so the theory was sound, as he really wasn't a threat to us anyway..

[Steve Van Halen]

whoevers theory it was, it doesnt matter. I thought it was bluestars. I also considered that YB might have been a serial killer but missed his night actions due to his inactivity. when TCH looked asked around for a replacement I assumed that he had a role instead of him just being mod killed therefore I thought he might have been mafia or serial killer.

Hence my vote for him. I didnt vote for BBM initially as I thought it would be better to try and draw out someone else who wasnt blatantly mafia as BBM was. He was offering little threat due to his inactivity and im sure he didnt even vote for anyone to even save his own skin. If YB turned out to be townie then we could have made up for it by lynching BBM the next day. as it turns out we lost both of them anyway

[Steve Van Halen]

Before I get any questions thrown at me for asking about a serial killer - i cant remember a mafia game that hasnt featured one but because of a lack of corpses I dont think there is one in this game

[mophead]

is there an ignore button around here anywhere?  I think that you don't read the game, and just post random thoughts based on the last few posts that you actually read..  

answer this question if you read the entire thread:  do you think Sir Villian planned on claiming Harry Potter from the start? or thought of it after the first night?


and SVH, i'm pretty sure that was my theory, and i still think we should have 'left him by the pocket' so to say..  and went for someone else yesterday...  turns out he wasn't the godfather, but he was useless anyway, so the theory was sound, as he really wasn't a threat to us anyway..

i dont think he did i think he was just trying to save his own but

[Steve Van Halen]

Steve just caught you out there buddy, there was no pressure on sir villain at the time so why would he be trying to save his own 'but'?

[mophead]

i never said there was pressure...i said hes was trying to get out of everyones way to save himself

[stevenryals]

i dont think he did i think he was just trying to save his own but

i never said there was pressure...i said hes was trying to get out of everyones way to save himself

also, 3 times on the first two days he said "EXPELLERAMUS" or whatever hinting towards his role claim.. he had it planned end of..  and you haven't been reading the thread..

we don't mind you playing, in fact it's fun when you play, but don't waste our time.. read the thread and try to put in something useful... even if you're mafia..  do better than you're doing..  read..  it's an easy task..

[bluestarsneyes]

Actually I'm thinking that Sir Hammer was blocked...maybe both nights...because he did say he felt he had to reveal who he was...and it was after a night phase.

I do agree it did appear to me all along he was "something"....and wanted us all to think that as well.

I do think that he mentions the cult being a possible presence in order to distract town from the obvious that there was mafia.

[bluestarsneyes]

Ok, here is why I am wary about the cult.

I am Harry Potter, and each night I can use a patronus, to protect someone from Dementors. It makes sense to me that the mafia is Voldemort, and that the Dementors are also out there. This is why I have lied low so far in the game, didnt want the mafia to know who I am, but now it seems like I need to reveal. I protected Hippo 1st, night and then Stevenryals last night.

Speculating about a serial killer at this point is abit pointless since we have no evidence. No kill last night, points to there being no serial killer, but ominously that is the sign of a cult, meaning that I don't trust Stevenryals at all since he is probably the biggest target for someone to want to recruit, and if not already, then definitely now, since he claiming confirmed innocent. If we get evidence of cult, then steven is my main suspect, but for now no point speculating....

Plus a doctors protection only protects against one kill, so unless Steven is just bulletproof, he was only targetted once.

In fairness, if you think im acting completely out of character, I have been evil in virtually everygame so that proves nothing..

I think I'm going to Vote:BBM. Mikeblue doing a 'Hippo' and strongly targetting a fellow mafia member early seems the more likely plan, although BBM probably was an easy target.

I find it very odd that Sir Hammer finds stevenryals suspicious thoughout the game...even mentions that he could have been recruited...and then says he'd protected him right afterwards.

He also mentions that a doctor can only protect against one kill....and that stevenryals was only targeted once...ummm...first off...what does he mean by this? And why offer the bit about stevenryals only being targeted once?

[hippo]

I find it very odd that Sir Hammer finds stevenryals suspicious thoughout the game...even mentions that he could have been recruited...and then says he'd protected him right afterwards.

He also mentions that a doctor can only protect against one kill....and that stevenryals was only targeted once...ummm...first off...what does he mean by this? And why offer the bit about stevenryals only being targeted once?

Well, his claim was false, we know this, so it doesn't have to make sense. He'd have been doing one of the two things i suggested earlier, or potentially both. If, as a zealot, he had a terrorist role, i'd lean towards trying to lure out Harry Potter, in order the blow him up or something like that.

The doctor protecting against one kill thing means that if say, mafia tried to kill steven on night one and he protected himself, and then a serial killer also tried to kill Steven, then he would die. Because the protection only stops one kill attempt. Unless he was protected by two people i guess. I assume he was responding to someone suggesting a serial killer may exist and gone for steve as well in that post?

[laserblue]

Can't beleive no-one has noticed hammerbro is still keeping out of the way......  He's not a new player & he's not yorkie (ie usless) & he's never said he can't play... if you ask me he knows what he's doing
fos hammerbro

I think svh jumping on the end of the vote is sus.... his only excuse to not knowing what had been posted before him is just pure laziness fos SVH

I don't know what to make of hippo other than if I where evil he would be my first to go or be recruited ... does that say something?

amadjin is another that has just about made enough posts not to be sus but not cotributed nearly enough

[i2i Killer 89]

Well, that was an eventful day and night.

Firstly, I believe that SVH just miscounted the votes. He may be mafia and he might've just placed the final nail in the coffin but considering we were voting off a mafia member, if SVH was mafia he would've got onto the bandwagon earlier to avoid suspicion rather than being the last to vote, especially considering he changed from Yorkie.

Glad we finally got rid of BBM, I don't care what you say Steven, your over the pocket idea was rubbish. If we know somebody is mafia we have to kill them and go from there. He may have just been a mafia henchman but if we left him over the pocket long enough he could've become the Godfather. I just find the whole thing suspicious, when has a townie ever wanted to keep a mafia player alive? You're the first I think. That's if you are town.

As for Villain, he played an odd game. Still don't understand why he claimed Harry at the time he did, it just attracted attention and it looks like a town vigilante or a serial killer killed him. Either that or the real Harry Potter killed him. Well done whoever you are Harry for not trying to counterclaim and keeping out of the mafia limelight.

I was gonna mention Hammerbro as well just before Laser did. He did the woof post ages ago and he's just cruised through barely being noticed. I think it's time to try and get him out of hiding. I don't think he's mafia because he wouldn't post so little as it attracts attention but you never know. Same with Amadjin, he's barely posted at all so needs to come out as well.

Would appear we're getting very lucky at night when it comes to the mafia trying to kill us or someone is doing some great protecting or roleblocking.

[stevenryals]

Glad we finally got rid of BBM, I don't care what you say Steven, your over the pocket idea was rubbish. If we know somebody is mafia we have to kill them and go from there. He may have just been a mafia henchman but if we left him over the pocket long enough he could've become the Godfather. I just find the whole thing suspicious, when has a townie ever wanted to keep a mafia player alive? You're the first I think. That's if you are town.

 

no reason to argue the point now that he's gone, but had we lynched another player and turned out to be mafia, we could have known that today we can definately get another mafia for sure..  but here we are clueless...  he wasn't ever a threat as you now know.


anyway, seems everyone's ignored my vote on axeman