Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game *Mafia Win*

[stevenryals]

why FOS - any reason ?

thats the best your going to get miasg..  he's not going to do anything remotely coherent

[stevenryals]

If you are good... I think you need to concentrate on the bigger picture and not take so much out of TP's post which we all know was just a weak attempt to try and out people who had "offended" him...

Hows' that?  Axeman wasn't in the post at all and he's the one who did the most "T.P."-ing..

The fact is he had a role, and it will probably be easier to figure out who he was than anyone else in this game, because he lost his shit and went buckwild..   I could be wrong but I've read back through and it seems fairly obvious...

UNVOTE Mophead  not because i've changed my mind.. but nobody agrees with me, so it's a wasted vote..


Vote Sir Villian   Come out and play..  playing a very sus game so far..

[bluestarsneyes]

Few things to clear up here.

1) Hippo-I did vote for BBM however, I had called him out as being suspicious and was the first one to do so if you'd like to go back and look. However, Mikeblue was suspicious to me as well...I did buy his claim at first, but then quickly retracted that vote for BBM, and by the time I got back to work to vote for Mikeblue you actually put in your vote literally as I was posting, and it was the final vote.

I don't like that you put me on a list that states I "bought" into Mike's claim...it is a bit one sided to not show me in a list that did accept it at first, then immediately after Wes said something about him picking BBM, it got me to thinking I had been wrong to accept it and quickly retracted.

2) Look....I don't know what TP's role was...but I know he's a twat! He is every game towards me, and yes Miasg is right even when we were TEAMMATES! I called him out then, and do in most games because he acts like a complete selfish tit! So, forgive me if I get a bit annoyed but what he does is ruin every game he's in and thinks only of getting back at Miasg or anyone else that questions his motives in the game as being ruled by his ego OUTSIDE the game. Of course he went back at me look over every game...HE ALWAYS VOTES ME! I just think it's unfair that his statements which at the time HIPPO you yourself claimed were ruining the game are somehow now being tried to be sussed out as having some bit of truth to it....complete rubbish.

That being said....I do not understand a few things...

1) BBM how is it that everyone else is doing the talking for him...I asked him to provide his name in order to counter Mikeblue's statements, because if you were town that is what you would do...want to respond to save yourself from a false claim as you want town to win...however what did he provide??? Nothing.

2) Now people are talking for BBM and giving reasons to vote or not to vote for him, why? New player or not he's responsible IF he is a townie to help town out by giving us some type of response, don't you all find it quite interesting he's not come to say anything for himself...even after Mikeblue that called him out has been found to be mafia? Am I the only person to find this strange?

3) What at all is any reason to think BBM is not guilty? I'd like to hear it from him.

[stevenryals]

Alright, just got into work, spent most of the time driving in thinking about this game..  :/
It could be the mophead factor here..  He gets in these games and makes comments and stuff where he will intentionally seem evil to me.  He's only 12 so maybe he gets a kick out of it.  
I'll let him get into the game, hopefully he'll read all the pages and get some decent posts in rather than what he did a few posts above..  I'll lay off the TP-Mophead link and try to ignore TP's outburst until further notice.

Which leaves BBM for todays lynch.

However, hippo is spot on with the players who are normally good contributors who are way way behind the times..  including Villian, Currieman, hammerbro, axeman & amadjin..  

Footballnewb also need to contribute more, he's had a few posts that seemed well thought out..  but I'd like to see more from him..  

If I get a few minutes solid free today at work, i'm going to go back and read for other connections with mikeblue..

edit: to respond to bluestars

who's talking for BBM?  I think the general consensus is that he's guilty and mikeblue was using him as a scapegoat to save his own skin, and it didnt work.

the reason he's not already lynched is that it starts another night phase..  and as the doctor will be indisposed tonight protecting his own skin, there will be no protection  for anyone, so we need more information in this day phase to help us on in the next day or two...  otherwise we'll basically be starting from scratch tomorrow..

[bluestarsneyes]

Good lord...the games only been back up for a bit and we have some seriously long threads here already..lol!

I want us all to talk out the voting...just as we are doing...but I think if someone is suspicious that they should speak for themselves....just my opinion...and I find it weird that BBM hasn't.

I agree Sir Villian...that's his name now..whatever...I called him out Twice in the game to answer questions...I asked about his Spartacus bit...got no response from him....someone else answered for him...and then asked him why he as a very involved player wasn't more involved or contributing more...seems very odd to me...he's got quiet for sure.

Although...he's not the only one...a few others are noticably absent....I am beginning to wonder....is it because mafia feeled damned at this point..and are waiting on opportunity for someone to say something that they can twist...not sure...just have to agree with Hippo...too quiet for some of these players that normally are very regular posters.

I am a bit confused...if you are telling the truth steven...you think Mafia tried to kill you because you saved yourself and mafia got no kills so that part I think I get is the reason you said Mafia failed. However, what do you mean by town failed also? No townies died...what am I missing?

[stevenryals]

Its easy bluestars, there are usually Serial Killers & a town Vigalante..   so that's two kills unaccounted for assuming that TCH has both of these roles in the game, which i would assume he has...

[hippo]

1) Hippo-I did vote for BBM however, I had called him out as being suspicious and was the first one to do so if you'd like to go back and look. However, Mikeblue was suspicious to me as well...I did buy his claim at first, but then quickly retracted that vote for BBM, and by the time I got back to work to vote for Mikeblue you actually put in your vote literally as I was posting, and it was the final vote.

I don't like that you put me on a list that states I "bought" into Mike's claim...it is a bit one sided to not show me in a list that did accept it at first, then immediately after Wes said something about him picking BBM, it got me to thinking I had been wrong to accept it and quickly retracted.

Why would i make a list of people that did something dodgy, and then put forward everyone's reasons for doing so? How easy would that make it for everyone? It's up to you and everyone else on it to try and justify being there. I know you changed your vote - i pointed out that some people did do so after the list. But although changing your vote when some people argued against the claim may have been an innocent action, it could also be perceived that you realised Mike's desperate act wasn't going to work and tried to distance yourself from it. Some people who went against it originally were also probably doing this.

2) Look....I don't know what TP's role was...but I know he's a twat! He is every game towards me, and yes Miasg is right even when we were TEAMMATES! I called him out then, and do in most games because he acts like a complete selfish tit! So, forgive me if I get a bit annoyed but what he does is ruin every game he's in and thinks only of getting back at Miasg or anyone else that questions his motives in the game as being ruled by his ego OUTSIDE the game. Of course he went back at me look over every game...HE ALWAYS VOTES ME! I just think it's unfair that his statements which at the time HIPPO you yourself claimed were ruining the game are somehow now being tried to be sussed out as having some bit of truth to it....complete rubbish.

Calm down. That's exactly what i said, if you read my post, rather than just snippets of it. Steven's the only one to be using TP's post for any genuine analysis.

[bluestarsneyes]

You don't have to note everyone's reasons but I think it's disingenuous to include me in a list of people that bought into Mike's claims, when in reality I very clearly and quickly changed my opinion with all of my reasons about my doubts on him.

Which my retracted was based on my questions back to Mikeblue and his complete lack of response to me directly.

What your list does is distract from the fact that you were the single last player to vote for the Mikeblue lynch.....shows to me that you weren't as convinced of Mikeblue either...however admitting that today would be supsicious of course.

[stevenryals]

This isnt good...  there are 16 of us..  and 11 aren't contributing much at all..  would expect more out of a few of them...

Amadjin
Axeman
BBM
Currieman
FootballNewb
Hammerbro
LaserBlue
Mophead
Sir Hammer
SVH ??
Yorkshire Blue

[hippo]

You don't have to note everyone's reasons but I think it's disingenuous to include me in a list of people that bought into Mike's claims, when in reality I very clearly and quickly changed my opinion with all of my reasons about my doubts on him.

It's a list of people that bought in to his claim and voted for BBM. By voting and agreeing, for however short a time, you did this. It's undeniable. Why are you so touchy about this?

What your list does is distract from the fact that you were the single last player to vote for the Mikeblue lynch.....shows to me that you weren't as convinced of Mikeblue either...however admitting that today would be supsicious of course.

Considering that i provoked the initial reaction from him, spent most of the day arguing with him, and had my vote on him for an immense amount of time, i think it's a bit of a mis-representation on your part to suggest i was unsure about him and just jumped in at the end. I removed my vote, because as crap a claim as it looked, Mike had claimed cop, and i wanted to give him an opportunity and see if he'd give a name, to make absolutely certain we weren't losing a powerful townie. He didn't/couldn't give a name to back it up, and that confirmed what i suspected, so i re-added my vote.

This isnt good...  there are 16 of us..  and 11 aren't contributing much at all..  would expect more out of a few of them...

Agreed.

[bluestarsneyes]

I've TRIED for the last hour to sit here and read this entire game back...and it is literally about the same four or five players posting over and over and over.

Hippo I did go back and read the game and do agree you sussed Mikeblue out very early....there was a lot of random posting early in the game...and so rereading it now...yes...you voted unvoted...but did see you started the suspicions on Mikeblue and probably did take credit for making him go nuts..lol!!!!

BBM is tops of my suspicion list at this moment, of all the players with nothing to loose and everything to gain by offering up any comments at this point seems he'd be the most eager to come back and post...yet nothing..

I'm off to work as at this point it's obvious others need to contribute.

[stevenryals]

out of all the 'inactives'... have any seemed sus? 

if any, I'd say its the brothers...  Der Hammer & Hammerbro... 

I've voted for him, try to bring him into this game.. 

even if bbm is evil and we lynch him, what we we be saying tomorrow??  we'll be starting over..  just wait for deadline day on BBM, and we'll re-assess our options then.. but we're allowing all these possible mafia members to float through another day easily..

forget about bbm for now.. lets look elsewhere to get some info...

[bluestarsneyes]

I said I was going back to work...damn this game! I need to work...lol!

I actually was about to post...

FOS YORKSHIREBLUE...let's see if he comes out of hiding.

Two posts....one commentary...if that is what you call it..to tell TP to not act like an idiot...and not a single vote...nothing to add...contributed nothing.

[bluestarsneyes]

*sorry meant to include this above but had the wrong quote posted*

hippo you best go back and read some of the mafia games there was only the last one where i didnt post alot when you dont get much chance to post and then theres 5 pages to read its not easy

tp dont go after miasg all the time he was probably only oking tp is looking sus but he always does

Hardly a contribution to the game...commentary at best....this is literally the only posts in the game I can find for him.

[bluestarsneyes]

Unvote: Sir villian, Vote BBM
Fancy getting rid of him purely that he's barely posted (I know i've not posted loads either) and that when he did post, he was full of shit.
I'm going to Disneyland tomorrow. Should be on most of today but after that wont be on until sat night/sunday.

Hammersbro has been on today...nothing contributed previously since Thursday of last week...says he'll come back Sat or Sunday...both of which even if he procrastinated until Monday...he'd have had time to offer something..and yet nothing.

[bluestarsneyes]

Ahem, yes that should clearly say shouldn't instead of should. By the tone of my post, I hope thats obvious.

Unvote:Mike, for now although a cop claim or investigator claim is standard fair for someone near lynch. I think we need a full claim, Mike.

Last post by SirHammer was Friday...and he's on today...so can't tell if he's been on since Friday or not....he had a vote on Mikeblue and then Mike claimed....he does unvote him...although it does state it is for now.

Sir Hammer mentions early in the game he did not wish to give away his thoughts so early in the game....and based on what he's posted I've reread most all of it.....I find that Sir Hammer is posting very different...and haven't yet made up my mind that it's more due to he could have a powerful role...whether mafia or town not sure....but one thing is certain...he is on today

[wesmancity]

ON BBM
Its pretty clear that BBM is evil and could be the godfather, my reasoning is this maybe he was supposed to sanction the night killings and somehow forgot or didn’t understand what was going on or what he was supposed to do.! just a suggestion. I don’t think he’s helping the game at all and he needs to come out and tell us he’s town.

My question is to you BBM, If you are EVIL/MAFIA you will stay hidden, Come out and tell us why we shouldn't Lynch you?

On Steves claim
Steve you claim seems feasible and i believe you to an extent, but there’s always doubt and you could have powers to know something we don’t, so I’m not letting you go quite that easy.

Bluestars
You again are coming on getting involved, but i need more from you at this moment in time to suggest that you are town and helping us find evil

Hippo
you to me are the makings of a serial killer, I’m sure your not mafia as you and mikeblue where at it from the start and if you where on the same team that wouldn't of happened.

Happy Axeman
What going on with you? are we in the mood today or are we in hiding? really piss poor performance from you this game, what’s your story?

Currieman
Again, no comments or contributed very little.

Amadjin
You have something to hide as well, i don’t trust your game style.

Infact you all need a fucking FOS as its fucking pointless if you don’t post!!
FootballNewb
Hammerbro
LaserBlue
Mophead
Sir Hammer
SVH
Yorkshire Blue

COME ON!!!!

[bluestarsneyes]

Hard to include FootballNewb as not active...he's posted today...he's in assuie...so obviously not at this moment posting...however much of what he offers in his posts is coherent and sounds very town-like to me...he's offered suspicions and information...he did vote for Mikeblue and never bought his claim...I think he's been a consistent poster in looking back and he's posted today his thoughts....so not sure if you look back he'd be able to be classified as not active.

I am literally done researching this today..I have GOT to work...and eat...I'm hungry!

***Someone's posting while I'm posting....I'm going to eat!********

[i2i Killer 89]

Wow, a hell of a lot to read. I do actually have a job to go to, hence why I haven't had a chance to post on this day yet.

Admittedly I could've posted more on Day 1 but I just couldn't figure out who I believed and didn't as you can tell with me believing Mike about BBM. Also with all the people that voted for BBM, I'm not sure many of them are gonna be evil because surely you'd vote for Mike so that you wouldn't attract attention by believing him if you get what I mean.

Just so you all know I'm gonna be away from tomorrow morning until Sunday afternoon so won't get a chance to post but I shall read up on Sunday afternoon.

I am inclined not to vote just incase my vote causes a lynch even if I would've believed that person eventually had they managed to convince me but I think BBM is the most guilty at the moment because Mike was surely trying to deflect the attention on to one of his other mafia cronies to get a free ride through the rest of the game

[i2i Killer 89]

I didn't make it clear either, I'm actually going out now for the night so I will hopefully get on tomorrow morning and read up and add my thoughts before going away again tomorrow