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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #500 on: October 02, 2008, 02:03:45 AM »
is this what you are doing?  you had voted for him as long as I had .. and for the same reasons .. apart from what others say which you cannot take at face value because you have no idea how many of them are mafia or not .. out of the 4 people that I highlighted how many of them do you think are possible mafia ?  I'm thinking 2 or 3.

Two reasons why i've unvoted really. The one i said, and i think i worked out what laser was on about.

Of the 4 people you mentioned, TCH i definitely find dodgy. There's a few things he's done that have been quite well documented, that have made him look suspicious. Laser's made a few posts that have made me wonder, but on the whole, he hasn't made a mistake. Afroboy hasn't slipped up at all really. Hammer's made a few strange posts. The one earlier where he said..

Unvote:Steven, its a no-go area clearly

made me question him a bit. Makes it sound like he's going after certain players, rather than voting objecively.

But the thing is, although there's not much to go on with them. They're all people who know what they're doing in this game, and that's why i don't trust them. Maybe it's being paranoid, but i genuinely believe that at the very least, one person has done what i mentioned in my last post.

I'll look back through in the morning, because the 4 you highlighted i don't think are a definitive list of people who've said they think YB is innocent. For starters, TCH doesn't seem to actually say it there.

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #501 on: October 02, 2008, 02:09:21 AM »
But the thing is, although there's not much to go on with them. They're all people who know what they're doing in this game, and that's why i don't trust them.

Any decent player in this game, should have been able to see that YB's actions have looked suspicious. His style has changed, yet people have said it hasn't. He accused miasg for suggesting a no-lynch AFTER the uncontested Bauer claim and kept voting for him, until he was instructed it was suspicious.

The fact that genuinely good players also didn't pick up on this, suggests to me that they know something i don't.

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #502 on: October 02, 2008, 02:26:53 AM »
that's incorrect both Hammer and myself have not said he is innocent just didn't want to bandwagon. Hammerbro and the Axe.
what do you think most of them means .. all of them ?  most - some not all ..

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #503 on: October 02, 2008, 02:37:54 AM »
Two reasons why i've unvoted really. The one i said, and i think i worked out what laser was on about.
I'd better re-read as I not 100% sure yet ..

if I unvote YB then I'm basically saying I trust at least you 2 .. and that I'm not sure about.  So it seems that he's allowed to post nothing, crap, and maybe not even appear again and that's ok?  this game is about paranoia .. all the mafia have to do is put you in 2 minds and your screwed .. as I said before I can't see from what I've read in this game and that's every post that YB has helped town and how 4 to 5 people can all see he's innocent .. that to me in not logical.  This is why I'm stuggling to see the point ..

The fact that genuinely good players also didn't pick up on this, suggests to me that they know something i don't.
  who are these people or how many of them are there?  and how do you know you can trust them ? maybe some of them have there own agenda's. 

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #504 on: October 02, 2008, 02:43:37 AM »
Any decent player in this game, should have been able to see that YB's actions have looked suspicious. His style has changed, yet people have said it hasn't. He accused miasg for suggesting a no-lynch AFTER the uncontested Bauer claim and kept voting for him, until he was instructed it was suspicious.

The fact that genuinely good players also didn't pick up on this, suggests to me that they know something i don't.


which is obviously because a majority of them will turn out to be mafia members, ie TCH and YB for starters those two are so obvious I cant believe everyone else cant see that... I can see we will lynch a townie on day one which wont help us at all.  Either YB or TCH because they have both slipped up. Steve is starting to worry me, I thought he was playing his typical townie way but hes strongly defending the vote from MIASG point of view after you suggested it... is that just because we have found a mafia target and you dont want to lose one of your own ... similar thoughts on laserblue;

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #505 on: October 02, 2008, 03:08:40 AM »
yawn, when i die and am shown to be a townie you will look like a complete twat. I suppose if you write TCH is evil enough times then i'm sure you can condition everyone into believing it. Maybe instead of line spacing i'll put
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Then people might then feel like getting rid of you.
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
You tried to stay away from the aussies for 2-3 days and now miasg is supposedly in the clear you now have only one target to annoy, myself.
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
You keep saying i've slipped up but not really saying how
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So it's hard to to take anything you write as useful
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Miasg can't get past the me posting the two people, don't watch 24 so the second character could have been just important, they were just 2 names as far as i was concerned. In someways me doing that has stopped people voting for youand narrowing the field on potential suspects.
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Hippo they may seem dodgey to you but i don't think anyone will see me contradicting myself and i've been consistant with my voting and reasoning. TP for being an idiot and Hammersbro for lack of activity. I voted for Footynewb last time as he was inactive. Then was killed during the night
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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #506 on: October 02, 2008, 04:14:41 AM »
Miasg can't get past the me posting the two people, don't watch 24 so the second character could have been just important, they were just 2 names as far as i was concerned. In someways me doing that has stopped people voting for youand narrowing the field on potential suspects.
did you read the wikipedia article or just find that and post it?  if you knew nothing then wouldn't have read a bit more thus knowing one was of importance? 

I'm starting to believe your not mafia TCH .. I'm thinking serial killer or cult leader ...

I don't know why but I have this compulsion to unvote yorkshire blue and vote TRICK PONY aka TP aka :clown: aka :fool: aka :wanker: but not yet ... yorkshite get back on contribure and I'll consider leaving you alone for day 1.

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #507 on: October 02, 2008, 04:18:13 AM »
LOL I meant YorkshireBlue not shite  :-*
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Oh and I wanted TP gone from the start after all his crap again but you people seemed to love him so deal with it. 
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TCH isn't town but vote TP 4 now
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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #508 on: October 02, 2008, 04:44:15 AM »
full quotes just for you TCH, everyone else will see that your the main suspect and if they dont its simply because they are either blind, or have a non town role. As from a townie point of view you havnt helped the town at all.

well it seems for some reason that i have somehow become the main suspect, so i will attempt again to explain how i cannot be mafia and voting for me is a waste of a vote.

Before the game started TP let slip that he hoped he wasn't on the same side as miasg as miasg would be trouble. Which i deduced that he had a power role of some sorts. I started the game with this knowledge and pm'd currieman during the first week to see if there would be any ramifications in using that piece of information. He said no.
During this time TP played his usual self centred game of let's accuse any other aussie and get them voted off. This involved both miasg and myself voting for him as i was happy to get rid of him so the rest of us could play the game properly.
I kept my TP information to myself as i had no idea what role miasg was and if he was evil then all well and good. However when he slipped up i went to wiki and checked, then posted the 2 roles he could be. I have no idea how important the other role was but miasg let it be known that he was Jack.
At that point i considered the TP situation and decided that i should let everyone know what i knew about him. I did so and people seem to believe it as he has no longer been getting votes. So if i was evil why would i come out with information to save a townie with a power role ?? It makes no logical sence unless i am a townie myself.
My lack of posting is a joke, i explained i would be posting less as i lost access at home but still chipped in at work.

So i must deduce that at least one of the people who have voted for me is mafia. Wes put on a vote but then quickly took if off for BLuestars. If he was mafia trying to bandwagon then he wouldn't have done that, so i'm inclined to believe he is innocent.
So that leaves Laser, Hammersbro and Mike, Hammersbro has not been posting, and of the other two i think Mike is more sus. He was quick to back Steve up in getting miasg to lead us to pick a lynch. Then his reasons for voting myself are week, just saying i've gone quiet when in fact many others are quieter.

I normally prefer to vote non playing people off as they detract from the game and that's why i'm going to

unvote Afro and Vote Hammersbro maybe a vote will get him back and playing

plus a big FOS MIKE

why would a townie make this fact clear as day in the open about me having a townie power role,  yes i just said what you have wanted to hear but I can claim like miasg did but that wont help the town, you have just made me a prime suspect and you will be accountable for both MIASG and myself getting killed off early  >:( and you did the same to MIASG as well... you forced him into role claiming, so if he dies at night thats all on you, similar to me, I already know you wont care about that since your evil and miasg isnt... unless you recruit him.

well there we go not much you can say about the above post.

What i am about to post i have checked with the Cman and he said it was ok. I've deliberated about posting it for a while but it might help people focus on other players or not depending on how you interpret it.

I've mentioned that i am sure that TP has a power role of sorts either town or maifa as when before the game started i asked him if he had received his role and he grinned and said "i just hope i'm not on the same side as miasg"

This to me this means one of two things, he's mafia and misag will be killed at his first opportunity or he is a townine with powers to kill and miasg was dead at the first night phase. With Miasg now coming out it now makes me TP's no 1 target i would say.

I would think as mafia you would know who your other partners in crime are so i think say he is more likely to be a town role ??

If he is a town player it has been mentioned by many people his style of play does not help the game and hence i voted for him as i would rather he be gone and focus on playing the game properly. However with miasg outing himself and TP likely to be a town then i feel we need to start looking at other players apart from TP and myself to lynch.

So i'm giving TP a chance to start playing the game properly and unvote Trick Pony If he persits in his normal style i will happily vote him back just to get him out of the game.

Of course TP could have spun me a line, but i think not.

Out of who's left i think the US contingent seem good so it's in the UK where i believe the evil is lurking. So i'm going to vote Afroboy You are not really contributing and trying to catch a free ride into day 2. Your input to the game is similar to me past games when you had an evil role. So come out and defend yourself.

Lastly Laser i don't know who Corky or Corkey is either, i only remember Korky the Cat from the Dandy.

why the sudden change of heart here TCH you say im town now your saying im mafia.... cant even make up your mind, I cant see why anyone can see the logic of a man who cant make a decision and stick with it  ::)

but at the end of the day if all three of us are townies it goes to show how your playing style in attacking miasg and myself is not productive to helping the town. As if you role claim town, i still believe you have a non normal townie role or mafia role, miasg has let it be known he's town and not a normal townie as Jack and you get me lynched as town then it means the mafia will know nicely who to target in the night phase.

miasg posted that he made his slip up in haste as was sick of someone constantly looking over his shoulder. That person is not me. So you caused miasg to stuff up

I agree with Hippo's insights into Wes and Wes would have my vote if it wasn't for TP.

no that was you, from your wiki work where you worked out who the two possiblities are. If you were town and wikied that and worked out who he could be you wouldnt have posted to make it so obvious to everyone who MIASG was, why would you highlight a key townie with a power role to all mafia members ? out of everyone in the game so far you have had made the two main key decisions to post stuff that have a major impact on the town, which were outing MIASG and myself, including your first decision based on prior game talk, miasg already knows that we like so he expected it, so either your a fool not helping the town or your mafia/non town with your own ambitions, a townie simply wouldnt have done these things and if you are town your no loss as your not helping anyway...

not sure how many posts you want need me to quote TCH to prove that your actually protown, not defining that your mafia your simply just not town. You could be a cult leader trying to get power roled townies on your side, or your a serial killer trying to take one of the powerful townies, or your simply mafia who could have additional night actions, who knows that currie could have put into this game, just like your LOTR game..

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #509 on: October 02, 2008, 04:45:18 AM »
I have looked over the posts and found this among Trick Pony's comments, if that's not enough then i don't know what is  ;)
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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #510 on: October 02, 2008, 05:11:28 AM »
why would a townie make this fact clear as day in the open about me having a townie power role,  yes i just said what you have wanted to hear but I can claim like miasg did but that wont help the town, you have just made me a prime suspect and you will be accountable for both MIASG and myself getting killed off early  >:( and you did the same to MIASG as well... you forced him into role claiming, so if he dies at night thats all on you, similar to me, I already know you wont care about that since your evil and miasg isnt... unless you recruit him.
  hang on .. you made me upset enough to post something to shut and others up .. not TCH .. he just assisted the transition of me anouncing that I was indeed Jack Bauer.  And you've said he's mafia all the way though and listed his buddies with him and now your just agreeing with something I say?  you seem to follow a lot don't you .. once again what you post makes me think the exact opposite I was before ..

why the sudden change of heart here TCH you say im town now your saying im mafia.... cant even make up your mind, I cant see why anyone can see the logic of a man who cant make a decision and stick with it  ::)
  so am I mafia or not?  you seem to change at a whim and not just on me ..

The only reason TP is now looking town is because he's starting to look at others .. I think his reasoning and logic behind half of his attacks are baseless, misguided, and petty.  Would he be doing this if I hadn't role claimed?   
  so nothing has changed here ..

I won't, because I know I can't, but I should really stop posting and just sit back and absorb what's been said and what will be said until day 1 is at an end .. The 3 aussie thing has sort have started up again and that means we haven't really progressed that far  ::)

The "feel" is to always vote off the one's not contributing .. Hammerbro .. YB .. Afro (2 more posts than YB doesn't mean you've done anything) .. and masterzulu  probably head the list .. last game the non posters made it through a few days and some ended up being modkilled for not playing .. and others mod killed them selves becuase it died .. the game was good the people just voted off the posters .. of course some were good and some were evil you get that but I won't cop it's getting boring from people if they aren't on. 

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #511 on: October 02, 2008, 06:05:36 AM »
I have looked over the posts and found this among Trick Pony's comments, if that's not enough then i don't know what is  ;)
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I have looked over the posts and found this among Trick Pony's comments, if that's not enough then i don't know what is  ;)
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your a liar as well as being an idiot, talk about focusing on "ONE" player, just lynch TCH and get this effin day over with

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #512 on: October 02, 2008, 06:13:53 AM »
  hang on .. you made me upset enough to post something to shut and others up .. not TCH .. he just assisted the transition of me anouncing that I was indeed Jack Bauer.  And you've said he's mafia all the way though and listed his buddies with him and now your just agreeing with something I say?  you seem to follow a lot don't you .. once again what you post makes me think the exact opposite I was before ..
  so am I mafia or not?  you seem to change at a whim and not just on me ..
  so nothing has changed here ..

I won't, because I know I can't, but I should really stop posting and just sit back and absorb what's been said and what will be said until day 1 is at an end .. The 3 aussie thing has sort have started up again and that means we haven't really progressed that far  ::)

The "feel" is to always vote off the one's not contributing .. Hammerbro .. YB .. Afro (2 more posts than YB doesn't mean you've done anything) .. and masterzulu  probably head the list .. last game the non posters made it through a few days and some ended up being modkilled for not playing .. and others mod killed them selves becuase it died .. the game was good the people just voted off the posters .. of course some were good and some were evil you get that but I won't cop it's getting boring from people if they aren't on. 


noob your a towie if your proven to be JB, you havent been challenged yet but it is still possible that your just mafia trying to get the real JB to speak up... as i said earlier you never know what CM would have put into this game. So at the moment your townie in my mind, though TCH is mafia or non town role...  now both of you have restarted the aussie bs again, I want to hear from everyone else on who they think we all are.... MIASG your a fool for confusing yourself


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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #513 on: October 02, 2008, 06:22:42 AM »
now both of you have restarted the aussie bs again
  :2funny: :moon2: so you've been blindingly following me agreeing with everything I've said since but you still think there is a real Jack Bauer out there ..  :notworthy: that'll do me


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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #514 on: October 02, 2008, 06:56:27 AM »
your a liar as well as being an idiot, talk about focusing on "ONE" player, just lynch TCH and get this effin day over with

no i have focussed on other players you have kept on and on about me being evil, so i've had enough of it and responded in kind. I've always said you have a power role which you have not denied but now you have reverted back to how you started the game and it stops people looking for the real mafia.

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #515 on: October 02, 2008, 08:06:54 AM »
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  :2funny: :moon2: so you've been blindingly following me agreeing with everything I've said since but you still think there is a real Jack Bauer out there ..  :notworthy: that'll do me

where did you read that bs... read it again miasg. I said that I agree at the moment that your JB only because everyone else hasnt challanged that.  Just because you havent been challenged that doesnt mean your JB it just helps to sway others opinions of you, id rather believe someone on day one who has come out roleclaiming to be a townie who hasnt been challenged, and focus on someone else who is sus like TCH. He may well be a reg townie but from his actions in this game so far are not helping the town. He has already pushed two of us into the open on day one so why would a townie do that... I just cant see it in any other way...


no i have focussed on other players you have kept on and on about me being evil, so i've had enough of it and responded in kind. I've always said you have a power role which you have not denied but now you have reverted back to how you started the game and it stops people looking for the real mafia.

your game is totally different from all of your other games, im still waiting on responses from the others as asked above so how is that just focusing on you... all of the talk is mainly about us so lets sort it out... your mafia/non town and im a townie with a power role its really as simple as that.

There is no point in going on about it we will just hit 50 pages going around in circles,

As I said earlier I believe TCH, YB, and laserblue to be mafia/non-town roles, I will wait to see what happens over night, and see who posts and who doesnt, most of the quiet players are probably mafia as they dont need to work out whos who, probably just scared of being found out or slipping up...

whats the point in playing if you post once a week...

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #516 on: October 02, 2008, 08:40:40 AM »
Of the 4 people you mentioned, TCH i definitely find dodgy. There's a few things he's done that have been quite well documented, that have made him look suspicious. Laser's made a few posts that have made me wonder, but on the whole, he hasn't made a mistake. Afroboy hasn't slipped up at all really. Hammer's made a few strange posts. The one earlier where he said..

made me question him a bit. Makes it sound like he's going after certain players, rather than voting objecively.

But the thing is, although there's not much to go on with them. They're all people who know what they're doing in this game, and that's why i don't trust them. Maybe it's being paranoid, but i genuinely believe that at the very least, one person has done what i mentioned in my last post.

I'll look back through in the morning, because the 4 you highlighted i don't think are a definitive list of people who've said they think YB is innocent. For starters, TCH doesn't seem to actually say it there.

I'm voting objectively, in fact if you look back and actually read I have made few votes and always given reasons for them. I unvoted Steven simply because it was going nowhere. My suspisions of him are well documented in several of my posts and no one has given any thought to them so fair enough. I'll drop it for now. My theory of Steven falls apart if Yorkshire is town though, something that looks unlikely given his scummy play. Hippo , you seem increasingly trying to fit me up?

@SirHammer - why won't you jump on the bandwagon?  you think he's town? 

A poor eager mafia player would be one of the first on such bandwagon so I was looking out for that.

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #517 on: October 02, 2008, 10:06:39 AM »
Hello people im readin threw where i left off and at the min im up to here, ZULU I have left you alone mate but can you answer what you mean here?

I've been trying to keep on top of reading all the posts

And then you say this
hehe I was posting just as you wrote that, as for lurking, I've been reading over the posts quite a bit whilst I've been at work
I did say I would post that night but life once again got in the way, sorry about that.

You my friend are fast becoming a number on target FOS ZULU

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #518 on: October 02, 2008, 11:24:49 AM »
Hello people im readin threw where i left off and at the min im up to here, ZULU I have left you alone mate but can you answer what you mean here?

And then you say this
You my friend are fast becoming a number on target FOS ZULU

Ill continue reading where i left off..

What I meant by that was simply I know I haven't been getting involved and posting as much as perhaps I should have but I'm still trying to play the game in my own half asses kind of way

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Re: Mafia 15 - 24
« Reply #519 on: October 02, 2008, 12:31:02 PM »
what about you then laserblue... can you please show me the courtesy and tell me your list and possibly why ? 

I'm at work right now & only got a few mins  ....

TCH & TP are definatley on the list & maybe mikeblue & maybe an experienced player like axeman I'll expand on this later when I get home.