Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win

[hippo]

Like I said Hippo it was before my coffee and I was pretty nervous about you just accepting TP especially after all the really questionable things he totally avoided answering at all.

I had in mind that he could be lying, think i said something about him having picked someone who may not even be in the game. But without somebody coming out and counter claiming it, or disproving it like you've done, i had nothing to validate my thoughts, so had to work on the assumption - albeit a wary assumption - that it was true.

I am interested to see what others have to say at this point.

Me too. Very quiet considering the deadline's so soon.

[Liverbird]

You were on it because i couldn't remember you claiming anything, but i've been back and read through and found the stuff you're talking about.. so i'll take you off it. I'll give my reasoning for the people on the "not possibly godfather" list too..

Hippo: Well, i know that i'm not. And i think, by now, you all should too. But obviously i understand if people don't just trust me.
LaserBlue: Has been blocked
Liverbird: Entirely offline for the majority of the game. Certainly for at least one of the night phases entirely.
Miasg: Has claimed
SVH: Obvious who he is if you read his posts
Trick Pony: Claimed
Wesmancity: Claimed
Yorkshire Blue: Has been blocked

So that leaves:

AfroBoy: Easily the most viable lynch today.
Bluestars: This is the person i'd block tonight, if afroboy is lynched. If he's not, then go for afroboy. Although it's up to you obviously.
Sir Hammer: Seems innocent to me, and i have an idea of who he is. But he is decent at this, and while there's nothing concrete to rule him out of being the godfather, we shouldn't.

One of those three is the godfather, if what Trick Pony has said is true.

And because i may as well get all of my thoughts out there, here are my suggestions for scenarios based on different ones of those three being godfather. I'll let you know the reasons for these at the start of day four, if i make it.

IF it's afroboy, then the other two are fine, and the remaining mafia will be made up of either/both laserblue and liverbird.

IF it's hammer or bluestars, then the mafia will be made up of either/all afroboy, laserblue and liverbird. Won't be all three, but 1 or 2 of them, depending on numbers.

If i havent been online during any night phases , doesnt that prove that im an ordinary townie??? (Im still trying to get use to this game & roleblock & claim etc... )

If there us 3 mafia/evil left then i definatley think its out of Afro boy, Trick pony and laser blue.. (possibly) but im really not sure what to think of Afro boy because he never really says much , and has hardly any comments compared to everyone else. I know i havent but im still getting use to everyone, and how ppl are trying to play.

[Steve Van Halen]

In case I miss the deadline I am going to go

vote Trick Pony

This is because I dont believe his role claim and I think he cocked his story up. That and I dont think I will be online from here to the deadline and I dont want my vote to go to waste.

If we are wrong and he is not lying we know who to go after. Speak to you all soon folks

[Sir Villain]

If there us 3 mafia/evil left

Us 3 mafia left?

[yorkshire blue]

tp looking th most sus now and after the role claim he isnt really doing himself any favours
so i will vote trick pony

Us 3 mafia left?

i think that is just a typing errror

[laserblue]

Tp I unvoted you to give you a chance to reveal your character & explain your role
 if you had reaveled you where a character that could not be disputed
or could tell us a succesful block then I would believe you
but all this is too convenient in the way none of it can be checked
I'm hoping I'm right ...... Vote Trick ponyP

[MIASG]

LOL looking back I realise that if we had of voted no lynch on day 1 we may not have known who was who but we could have saved the doctor and been 1 fellowhip member up ..

actually it might make sense now - gollum is dead and the fellowship just have to have the ring on day 7

"If all the Hobbits are killed the ring then falls into the hands of one of the fellowship they can only hold the ring for one Day phase before it consumes them and they die during the night phase. If the Fellowship runs out of players Gollum claims the ring, he can carry the ring indefinitely without any ill effects. If Gollum is then killed then the Mafia win. If Gollum is dead before the last of the Fellowship are consumed by the ring then the Mafia win."

day 3 - no lynch
night 3 - 1 leaves 10
day 4 - no lynch
night 4 - 1 -leaves 9
day 5  - no lynch
night 5 - 1 - leaves 8
day 6 - no lynch
night 6 - 1 - leave 7
day 7 - no - win

so the fellowship has 9 .. 3 are gone .. 4 max to die - it's a no brainer 
but it would also take the fun out of the game  :'(

it was part joke part serious but the big hole in this is that the mafia just have to make 1 vote to count in the day -- DON'T vote NO LYNCH

[MIASG]

Nah, what he's saying doesn't rely on that, it includes us losing 1 per night. However, it doesn't really work as to get the automatic victory, we have to have a hobbit alive; not just one of the fellowship, and potentially they could all be killed off during the night phases we have left. But more importantly, it just wouldn't be a very satisfactory way to win. It'd be dull.

Like you told me to do with your early posts, read my very recent ones..

I think it sort of says you need a hobbit  to survive but
"If all the Hobbits are killed the ring then falls into the hands of one of the fellowship they can only hold the ring for one Day phase before it consumes them and they die during the night phase. If the Fellowship runs out of players Gollum claims the ring, he can carry the ring indefinitely without any ill effects. If Gollum is then killed then the Mafia win. If Gollum is dead before the last of the Fellowship are consumed by the ring then the Mafia win."

there are 6 of us left .. to get the ring to the finish line ..

If TP is telling the truth he couldn't hold the ring anyway... but he can still lynch and block.

If i havent been online during any night phases , doesnt that prove that im an ordinary townie??? (Im still trying to get use to this game & roleblock & claim etc... )

If there us 3 mafia/evil left then i definatley think its out of Afro boy, Trick pony and laser blue.. (possibly) but im really not sure what to think of Afro boy because he never really says much , and has hardly any comments compared to everyone else. I know i havent but im still getting use to everyone, and how ppl are trying to play.

no it doesn't prove your a townie only not the current godfather.    and "the us 3 mafia" looks like a fruedian slip maybe ? 

FOS Liverbird

If TP survives then he could role block tonight .. problem is do we trust him enough for that ..

I just can't get over the galadrial facts in the Mod's post .. just doesn't make sense.  Go to page 13 and read through the death posts from TCH .. it mentions other thing like the lake creature or people who voted for the lynch and players still alive .. the next one does say we meet up with the Queen but you could deduce that she is not part of the alive players.

VOTE Trick Pony only becuase if he survives the night I probably wouldn't believe who he said he roleblocked anyway.

[MIASG]

my vote made it 7 and we only need 6 for a lynch ..

So Trick pony is gone.  Sayonara - you better have been evil or you cocked it up for the town again.

tp looking th most sus now and after the role claim he isnt really doing himself any favours
so i will vote trick pony i think that is just a typing errror

  what do you think liverbird ment to type ?

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Your journey along the river Anduin has been uneventful and you camp in the evening along the back of the river. You split up to go and gather firewood.
Suddenly you hear Frodo crying for help, you race off in the general direction of the cries drawing your weapons as you go. You arrive in a small clearing, Frodo has Sting, the sword Bilbo gave him drawn, trying to hold off Trick Pony.

"Give me the ring" he hisses

Without thinking you draw your sword and leap in to attack Trick Pony, suddenly arrows fly in from Legolas' bow, he turns to swat them away and you crack him on the back of the head knocking him cold. The rest of you quickly gather up his limp body and lynch him from the nearest tree.

Trick Pony was a Nazgul



You leave his body hanging and quickly gather up your belongings and hop back in the boats and travelling until dark. A forced march brings you close to the Dead Marshes which you will have to travel through tomorrow. YOu set up camp and get some much needed sleep.

We are now into the night phase for Day Three, you can now use your night options if you have them.
We will start up again at Midnight Sunday UK time with Day Four, have a good weekend.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

It's a restless night for all of you, but for Frodo the weight of the ring is now getting tremendous and sleep is hard to come by. He hops up and wanders around, the ring whispering constantly. Suddenly there is a screech of the Nazgul, they are still out hunting for them. The lure of the ring is too much and Frodo slips on the ring.
The one eye suddenly lights up Frodo's world and vision, it all he can see. He summons up all his strength and wrenches the ring off and the eye disappears. Disorientated though Frodo has entered the dead marshes and slips into the merky depths.

"Master Frodo!!"   he hears, with all he has left he throws the ring in the direction of the voice as he slips into the merky depths of the marshes.

Frodo was Sir Hammer and part of Mason group A



Sam catches the ring and is about to jump in after Frodo but Gandalf appears to stop him.

"Samwise Gamgee" he says "He is gone, the burden has now fallen to you. We must leave immediately as the Nazgul are close"

You gather up your belongings and head into the dead marshes and so starts Day Four.

The remaining players are

AfroBoy
Bluestars
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Miasg
SVH
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue

With 9 of you left it only takes 5 votes to cause a lynch. The time limit for Day Four if you cannot reach 5 votes is Midday Friday UK time.

Good Luck

[Sir Villain]

Oh shit!

Well good luck guys, Sam will not fail and Middle Earth shall be saved.

(I waited about half an hour online waiting for the new day to start [which is quite sad] and then I find out some bastards killed me.)

[Steve Van Halen]

Im thinking that there must be 4 mafia as there are 4 Nazgul in The Lord of the Rings.

We need to chose the next lynch carefully as we have a great advantage at the moment.

3 masons, one from each group. could the remaining masons PLEASE NOT COME FORWARD UNLESS IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY. No claiming just because you are put under a bit of pressure.

Its late and Im tired so I will have to look into this properly tommorow.

[MIASG]

at least we still have a hobbit or 2 alive - it means they won't die at night unless the mafia picks them out.

I thought you were a mason hammer but not in that group

[hippo]

Right, well that's not good, but i'm thinking we have 2 hobbits left, 3 others of the fellowship and then 2 standard townies against their 2 evil. So we still SHOULD win, assuming we don't do anything stupid, and that we kill somebody evil today.

And luckily for all of you, there's no chance that that isn't going to happen. I know people said not to roleclaim, but i've thought it through, and i think the pros of making it only a one person mafia against 6 (after tonight), far outweigh the cons of potentially losing myself.

I'm Gandalf, and the cop. Over the past few days, i've investigated Hammer ("with me"), Bluestars ("with me") and Afroboy ("against me"). Obviously, the godfather appears innocent to investigations, and that we therefore shouldn't rule bluestars or anyone else out of being that. But what we know for certain, is that afroboy is evil. And with that in mind:

vote afroboy

[bluestarsneyes]

UGH...well I am happy to see that TP did turn out just how I figured and we got rid of him, but really sad that they got Frodo! We can still win this town...and yes Hippo I think I am going to believe you...I've said all along I thought we had a cop in the game and your game play in my mind falls along with being the cop. And as bad as it stinks you wasted a night investigating me at least maybe now don't have to worry about who to vote for today.

Nuff for me Afroboy has looked suspicious all along and I see no reason to believe you.

VOTE AFROBOY

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

so we have

AfroBoy  2 votes

[MIASG]

VOTE AFROBOY .. that's now 3 votes

If Bluestars is the godfather then turning a vote back onto your nazgul was a strange move.  I doubt that happened.  TP probably would be alive right now if it wasn't for that.

Was TP's post that he investigated yorkshire and laserblue there to throw us off or make the godfather seem innocent ? were there late vote posts to get in make them seem innocent ?

if afro is what we assume ie nazgul then maybe we should roleclaim the rest tomorrow as we are likely to be left with 1 hobbit  ..  surely all we'll end up is with 2 people role claiming the same thing .. OR DO WE ?

I think the masons should stay hidden - at least for today .. so the mafia can't distinguish who the last 2 hobbits are.

I'm Boromir and have no powers at night but I'm one of the fellowship

9 left ...

fellowship left 5 :Gandalf, Boromir, Sam, Pipen, Legolas

godfather alive, nazgul left ?

fellowship dead 4: aragon, merry, gilmli, Frodo

townies dead 1: faramir

Gollum - SK dead

Mafia x 2 - dead

by my count 5 fellowship plus 1 godfather .. that leaves 3 others which makes me uneasy ..

wes still surving the night's makes me a touch uneasy - why haven't they taken out a known mason ?

[wesmancity]

I will go with you lot, VOTE AFROBOY

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

well it's now

AfroBoy 4 votes


only 5 votes required to cause a lynching