Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win

[Steve Van Halen]

Mophead please ensure that you have read the posts first this time before casting a vote! 

[hippo]

Just reading back trying to find anything laserblue might have let slip about his identity - 'cause i hadn't really noticed him much until the very end of yesterday and start of today - when i found this amusing little nugget from  the no-lynch discussions..

I think it's a good idea but if everyone just comes on & votes no lynch then we face day two in exactly the same position none the wiser but possibly two down ... I don't see how this helps the town.

- He thinks it's a good idea himself
- It won't help the town

or am i reading this incorrectly?

[Steve Van Halen]

hmmm Laserblue has been online for a while since my vote and has since left without a response after mophead added another vote. Couldnt think of a valid response? Think I may be onto something here

[Steve Van Halen]

I wouldnt read too much into that. It could just be a double bluff to make himself look innocent.

[yorkshire blue]

mophead only fosed laserblue
footballnewbie why did you change your vote

[bluestarsneyes]

mophead only fosed laserblue
footballnewbie why did you change your vote

Brillant question!

I'm going to review for a bit...lot happened in the past few post...need to catch up.

[laserblue]

I think Laserblue is trying to make something out of nothing.

FOS Laserblue

This is begining to feel like a bandwagon starting

[laserblue]

hmmm Laserblue has been online for a while since my vote and has since left without a response after mophead added another vote. Couldnt think of a valid response? Think I may be onto something here

SVH I am currently at work ...... some of us are not stupids...... I work in a careers office I see the public I logged in during my break.... I feel you are really making something out of nothing ........can you tell me why?

[Steve Van Halen]

Because you ignored my posts explaining why i didnt vote, ignored some of my previous posts hinting that i have a motive for pointing out your late vote for mikeblue.

I am certainly suspicious of both yourself and footballnewb

[hippo]

This is begining to feel like a bandwagon starting

1 vote and an FOS isn't a bandwagon, it's not even pressure enough for you to post a proper defense/response to the accusations levelled at you. 2 votes and an FOS might be though..

vote laserblue

The way you've started today, and tried to coast through day one posting non-commital things, until i stated that people not voting were suspicious, when you miraculously appeared with a vote, just doesn't make you look good to me.

Up to you to convince me someone else is more suspicious looking than yourself.

[wesmancity]

As on the first day im going with FOS bluestars and Laserblue ill give my reasons later as im at work.

[bluestarsneyes]

WAIT!

We have had HUGE town losses and there are all these rush votes?? We can NOT make any mistakes this time! Here is the information on the voting and fosing so far in the game. I will post my comments afterwards.

AfroBoy      FOS YORKSHIREBLUE.    5
      Fos Wesmancity       5
      Fos hammerbro.       5
      FOS mophead       6
      vote yorkshire       8
Bluestars      VOTE FOOTBALLNEWBY   10
FootballNewb   VOTE TickPony      12
      UNVOTE TrickPony      13
      VOTE Mikeblue      13
Hammerbro   Vote: No lynch      1
      FOS: Happy Axeman   2
      vote: Afroboy      3
      Vote: Liverbird      4
      Unvote: Afroboy      9
      unvote: afroboy      11
      Vote: Hippo      11
Happy Axeman   FOS Hammersbro      2
      VOTE Wesmancity      2
      UNVOTE WESMANCITY   6
      VOTE MIASG      6
Hippo      FOS: MIASG      1
      vote: no lynch      2
      vote: Steve Van Halen   3
      unvote: SVH      7
      vote: Yorkshire blue   7
      FOS bluestars      10
      unvote: yorkshire      10
      vote: SVH      10
      Unvote SVH      12
      Vote Afroboy      12
      unvote afro      12
      vote SVH                   12
      vote laserblue      14
LaserBlue      FOS mikeblue      12
      FOS footienewb      12
      FOS YORKSHIREBLUE.   12
      vote mikeblue      13
Liverbird      vote is for wesmancity   12
Miasg      FOS wes                   8
      FOS mophead      8
      FOS stevenryalls      8
      FOS hammerbro      8
      VOTE FOOTYNEWB      11
      FOS MIKEBLUE      12
      FOS laserblue      13
      FOS TrickPony      13
      FOS SirHammer      13
      FOS Footynewb       13
      FOS HIPPO      13
MikeBlue      FOS Hammerbro      3
      FOS SVH                   3
      FOS Wesmancity      3
      FOS Hippo      3
      FOS MIASG      3
      FOS for Hammerbro   4
      vote Steveryals      12
Mophead      VOTE:AFROBOY      4
      vote yorkshireblue      9
      FOS Laserblue      13
Sir Hammer   FOS:MIASG      1
      Vote: Mikeblue      7
      FOS MIASG      7
      FOS Wesmancity      7
Stevenryals   Vote Hammersbro      4
      UNVOTE Hammersbro   6
      VOTE Bluestarsneyes   8
      UNVOTE BLUESTARSNEYES   9
      VOTE TRICKPONY      9
      FOS Hippo      10
SVH      Vote Laserblue      13
Trick Pony   FOS MIASG      8
      FOS Footballnewb      8
      VOTE:Stevenryals      11
Wesmancity   Vote: No LYNCH      2
      FOS for Yorkshire      7
      Vote Yorkshire Blue   7
      FOS Laserblue      7
      UNVOTE yorkshireblue   8
      VOTE Laserblue      8
Yorkshire Blue   FOS at yorkshire      2
      vote trick pony      13

[bluestarsneyes]

As on the first day im going with FOS bluestars and Laserblue ill give my reasons later as im at work.

Love to hear it...yes...I'm VERY interested to see why you point out me...why? Because I've never bought your role claim. First off....you claim to be a mason...however instead of mafia killing off you...they kill off another mason...and instead of right away coming on and saying something about the lost mason you point out suspicions without anything to back it up...I'll find it but you've done that numerous times in this game.
Not to mention....you say you are a mason...was Steven your pal??? I mean if he was...then why no mention of his loss huh? Quiet aren't you sir?

I see over and over you say early on that laserblue is evil...well back it up...you never EVER give any reasons for having said something...it was early in the game and I never called you out on it...but at this point in the game...IF YOU are a townie as you claim...act like it and explain yourself.

I find it odd also when I say you smell of something...instead of having anything of worth to respond you simply say it makes you chuckle...look we do NOT need to loose anymore townies...but you have done the false claiming before so your role claim always made me suspicious it was unnecessary and early...I think it is time you get an open mouth...I don't understand why YOU wouldn't have been taken out if you are a mason...taking out steven instead to me screams that he was on to something and that is what I want to look into...He must have got undersomeone?

[Steve Van Halen]

Steveryals was not a part of wes's mason group. as TCH said he was a part of mason group b

My vote for laserblue wasnt rushed. I pointed out his last ditch vote for mikeblue along with footballnewb and he went straight on the offensive instead of defensive which was very sus to me so i voted for him. he then claimed that it all seemed very bandwagonish and as hippo pointed out - one FOS and one vote is hardly a bandwagon.

I didnt believe wes either but for reasons within the game and for reasons I would rather not say I do not think it would be wise to lynch wes - for now at least

[bluestarsneyes]

Steveryals was not a part of wes's mason group. as TCH said he was a part of mason group b

My vote for laserblue wasnt rushed. I pointed out his last ditch vote for mikeblue along with footballnewb and he went straight on the offensive instead of defensive which was very sus to me so i voted for him. he then claimed that it all seemed very bandwagonish and as hippo pointed out - one FOS and one vote is hardly a bandwagon.

I didnt believe wes either but for reasons within the game and for reasons I would rather not say I do not think it would be wise to lynch wes - for now at least

I am not defending laserblue at all...however, Miasg did ask me to post this listing and it does give some good information.

I think it is in the best interest of all that WES speak for himself...we've let him role claim and simply leave the game with no other input much and trust me I get what you are saying if he is a mason...but at this point...I find it very odd he's come on yet again and said laserblue is evil and backs it up with nothing...a mason doesn't know such things like that...and I for one get the group B...meaning there is another group...okay...so that means it is possible there is another group of masons that Wes could be apart of but I want HIM to explain himself...it's simple as that.

I for one want to think really good about this vote...footballnewb y was my vote and he comes on at the last minute and I think if I am looking correctly makes that final vote for mikeblue? Well...how that isn't suspicious to anyone I don't get at all..he and laserblue look really rough right now I agree....but the town has been known to lynch our own before...

I also think looking at WHO was killed in the night phase is a good indicator of what we have going on as well...stevenryals was killed off and it appears very suspect to me..unlike hippo..I think it could tell us alot!

[mophead]

I really think laserblue is trying to start a bandwagon.

[laserblue]

I really think laserblue is trying to start a bandwagon.

What ... on myself

Please explain mophead cause this doesn't make any sense??

[laserblue]

Wes I think it's time you explained what you mean? I have nothing to hide so go ahead........

[hippo]

I really think laserblue is trying to start a bandwagon.

eh? He's trying to create a myth that there has been one, i don't think he's starting one to be honest?

I also think looking at WHO was killed in the night phase is a good indicator of what we have going on as well...stevenryals was killed off and it appears very suspect to me..unlike hippo..I think it could tell us alot!

Well, i find it interesting that you haven't mentioned the killing of hammerbro. Not concerned with finding the mafia? Just Gollum? Interesting. But the reason i said we'd learn more from hammerbro's killing than from steven is because he made nowhere near the same amount of accusations as steven. The only person i can remember off the top of my head that steven seemed absolutely 100% about was mophead, and that came across like a "i don't want to be conned by him because i'll never live it down, so i'm going to over compensate" type accusation.

Re: Your List

hammerbro was the only person to officially register votes/suspicions for Happy Axeman or Liverbird. I don't think that is a coincidence. And he had afroboy voted for once, but he seemed to completely backtrack on that, so i'm not sure that's useable.

As for Steven's activity, it's you, me or Trick Pony. I don't trust either of you. But then, i don't particularly trust this method either.. it'd be very easy for the scum to win if set-ups were that simple to achieve.  He accused a hell of a lot more than just us three for instance.

[bluestarsneyes]

Well, i find it interesting that you haven't mentioned the killing of hammerbro. Not concerned with finding the mafia? Just Gollum? Interesting.

Absolutely untrue...I am concerned with finding anyone that is not PROTOWN..either mafia, cult, vigilante, serial...whatever.. .I was pointing out that I find it interesting that you found more evidence coming from Hammersbro killing...nice twist attempt there again hippo

But the reason i said we'd learn more from hammerbro's killing than from steven is because he made nowhere near the same amount of accusations as steven.

Actually that is NOT backed up by the facts...matter of fact if you actually read what I posted you will see it was actually Hammersbro that made more than 7 accusations all together and for votes he outnumbered pointed out folks 3-4
The only thing that is factual is that they BOTH finger a HIPPO in their last fosing and voting and both ended up DEAD!

The only person i can remember off the top of my head that steven seemed absolutely 100% about was mophead, and that came across like a "i don't want to be conned by him because i'll never live it down, so i'm going to over compensate" type accusation.

Re: Your List

hammerbro was the only person to officially register votes/suspicions for Happy Axeman or Liverbird. I don't think that is a coincidence. And he had afroboy voted for once, but he seemed to completely backtrack on that, so i'm not sure that's useable.

As for Steven's activity, it's you, me or Trick Pony. I don't trust either of you. But then, i don't particularly trust this method either.. it'd be very easy for the scum to win if set-ups were that simple to achieve.  He accused a hell of a lot more than just us three for instance.

It is simple in every game I've played a townie has at some point been in the vote count to lynch a townie...it just happens especially on day one...therefore I'm sort of assuming that all those that voted for Mikeblue could not all be mafia...that would be too obvious...so using that method alone to start the vote today, hasn't worked full proof in the past...it is a factor...looking at those that were killed and who they were suspicious of..

NOT to mention...who that did not get voted off...never voted for...that's key to me as well...I look at all the pieces together...that's all I'd like all of us to do today that are town because at this point I feel we are very much in danger of loosing.