Mafia 11 - Tripping the Rift Mafia - Town WIN

[Mikeblue]

First post and a vote straightaway eh?   that's a bit strong mate

Are you trying to protect bluestars??? 

[hippo]

First post and a vote straightaway eh?   that's a bit strong mate

Oh right sorry, let's start again then. You tell me who's not in your mafia and i'll vote for them instead.

[stevenryals]

I've posted quite a bit about who's in my suspisions adn reasons why..  did you read it or come in straight away with a vote?

[stevenryals]

Are you trying to protect bluestars??? 

are you trying to protect hippo???   

[Happy Axeman]

hello hippo, hows tricks? not seen you for a while. 

ive just spent ages trying to read whats transpired so far, 12 bloody pages, and we are no where near getting a majority lynch. 

I have this hunch that SteRyals has seen Mopheads PM's and knows he's evil now.
UNVOTE STEVERYALS, sorry kiddo, blame steve lol.  VOTE MOPHEAD.

I dont trust MrRyals yet, but Mophead's posts do seem very erratic in what he says and votes, his mind changes like the wind, but then again maybe ive just forgot what its like to be 11 again.  :'( anyway, i just feel ive got to vote for him.

Laserblue is another i seem to feel suspicious towards, as i do his nemesis, Afroboy.

[hippo]

I've posted quite a bit about who's in my suspisions adn reasons why..  did you read it or come in straight away with a vote?

You see, steven, what i was trying to do with my voting was to put pressure on somebody who has largely managed to escape it throughout the day. And yes, i know you've made a couple of references to her, as have others, but an FOS isn't really much pressure is it? For example, without counting, can anybody tell me who has the most of them? Exactly, nobody pays attention to them, so it's pointless. Unless we take it upon ourselves to make a list of them, then they're pointless.

Bluestars was the only person to vote for both people that had replacements lined up. Voting for the easy option on day one is what the mafia do, is it not? The other thing that made me suspect her was that practically every post of hers in this day has involved her mentioning various people, and then saying that she has no clue though. Doing enough to look like she's accusing people, without actually doing it forcefully. Not falling out with people is what mafia do again isn't it?

You've claimed to be putting pressure on people yourself, but you haven't at all. You've gone after a large number of people, so nobody knows which one you actually really suspect. You need to put pressure on one person at a time to get a read on them. If you do more than one, then there's really no need for them to defend themselves. You voted for yorkshire blue earlier in the day to get a reaction, saying you'd remove it if his defense was good, he said nothing to you and you removed it anyway. How's that pressure? One person has really reacted to you - Axeman - and he will pretty much react to any mention of him in every game, whatever his role is. All the good players play the same whatever they are, or try to at least.

Trick Pony was the only player putting real pressure on people from what i can find, and they got widely condemned for actually voting for someone and making them react. That's exactly what everyone has to do on day one. No votes, no pressure, no information.

As for your accusations, i can share my notes on whatever player you want me to?

Mikeblue seems to be your main one so i'll give you this one now. The most suspicious part about him isn't the way he edited a post (newbie error) or stopped posting after (some people have to work), but the fact that in one of his first posts in his first game he was talking, with what seemed like genuine knowledge, about people being given lists with other players roles on. Obviously there might be masons, but he said townies wouldn't get a list of other players, so he clearly wasn't talking about them. What other groups would have something similar? Only one.. (well two potentially, but both are evil).

[hippo]

hello hippo, hows tricks? not seen you for a while. 

ive just spent ages trying to read whats transpired so far, 12 bloody pages, and we are no where near getting a majority lynch. 

I have this hunch that SteRyals has seen Mopheads PM's and knows he's evil now.
UNVOTE STEVERYALS, sorry kiddo, blame steve lol.  VOTE MOPHEAD.

I dont trust MrRyals yet, but Mophead's posts do seem very erratic in what he says and votes, his mind changes like the wind, but then again maybe ive just forgot what its like to be 11 again.  :'( anyway, i just feel ive got to vote for him.

Laserblue is another i seem to feel suspicious towards, as i do his nemesis, Afroboy.

Hi, yeah not bad cheers, you?

Mophead's posts have been erratic, but then, so have the person doing his accusing. When it was amadjin playing, and getting bandwagoned away before mophead could take over, Steve was saying that the people voting for him were definitely evil. Now though, it's mophead who's definitely evil? So the mafia were trying to get rid of one of their own, before they could get someone else in to strengthen up their side?

2 days (i think) from a deadline though, we do need to come to some sort of agreement soon.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Vote count so far.........


MikeBlue         2 Votes
Mophead         2 Votes
Bluestars         1 Vote
LaserBlue         1 Vote
Stevenryals      1 Vote
SVH                1 Vote
Trick Pony        1 Vote

Yet to vote, AfroBoy, Bluestars and SVH


There are 48 hours to go till the end of Day 0ne, unless someone gets 7 votes before hand.

[hippo]

Sorry for posting 3 in a row, but i've just read 12 pages and there was loads to say  . Anyway, i've compiled some stats to try and help us come to a decision, and which should be alright for when we're trying to link people tomorrow or whatever.

Firstly, here's a list of who's currently voted for who. As of after this post.

Vote Count
Mophead 2 (Stevenryals, Happy Axeman)
Mike Blue 2 (Trick Pony, Hippo)
Trick Pony 1 (MIASG)
Laserblue 1 (Yorkshire Blue)
SVH 1 (Mike Blue)
Stevenryals 1 (Mophead)

Then we have a list of how many times people have been voted for in the whole day, with who voted for them listed in brackets. I haven't included multiple votes (mikeblue has voted for stevenryals a few times, for example) and i haven't included the votes me, mophead and svh got for not posting, whilst we were either not playing yet, or not able to play.

Total Votes during the day
Stevenryals 4 (Mikeblue, Trick Pony, Happy Axeman, Mophead)
Mike Blue 4 (steveryals, laser blue, Trick Pony, Hippo)
MIASG 3 (Mikeblue, Bluestars, Afroboy)
Trick Pony 2 (steveryals, MIASG)
Bluestars 2 (Afroboy, Hippo)
Mophead 2 (steveryals, Happy Axeman)
SVH 1 (Mikeblue)
Yorkshire blue 1 (steveryals)
Laserblue 1 (yorkshire)
Axeman 1 (mophead)
Yorkshireblue 1 (Mikeblue)

And finally, and probably most helpfully, we have the people who have attracted the most suspicion (in the form of FOS) throughout the day. Again, who did it's in brackets.

Most Suspected Players
mikeblue 6 (Yorkshire blue, Afroboy, Stevenryals, Bluestars, Laser Blue, MIASG)
stevenryals 5 (Afroboy, Happy Axeman, Mike Blue, SVH, LaserBlue)
Trick Pony 3 (SVH, LaserBlue, StevenRyals)
bluestarsneyes 2 (StevenRyals, LaserBlue)
MIASG 2 (Afroboy, Trick Pony, MikeBlue)
laserblue 2 (Afroboy, StevenRyals)
SVH 2 (Mikeblue, Stevenryals, Mophead)
Mophead 2 (Stevenryals, LaserBlue)
axeman 1 (LaserBlue)
yorkshire 1 (Bluestars)

So Mikeblue's the person who has attracted the most suspicion over the course of the day. Could be a sensible resolution to our dead-end?

unvote bluestars
vote mikeblue

[MIASG]

WOW nice post Hippo ..

alot of stevenryalls and laserblue combos and they've either FOS's or voted for each other too ..

I'm more confused now than ever    but I still think TP is evil and the mafia guys have hinted to him to settle down

[stevenryals]

I have this hunch that SteRyals has seen Mopheads PM's and knows he's evil now.

Oh come on mate, give me more credit than that..  I'd not do that to him..  but knowing him like I do.. it's easy to see something isnt right with him.. 

[stevenryals]

You voted for yorkshire blue earlier in the day to get a reaction, saying you'd remove it if his defense was good, he said nothing to you and you removed it anyway. How's that pressure?

It's pressure enough, because he didnt respond.. which is reason to be suspicious.. that's what mafia does.. just like you said.. instead of falling out, they'd rather sit back and let the rain cloud pass by without responding..

Mikeblue seems to be your main one so i'll give you this one now. The most suspicious part about him isn't the way he edited a post (newbie error) or stopped posting after (some people have to work), but the fact that in one of his first posts in his first game he was talking, with what seemed like genuine knowledge, about people being given lists with other players roles on. Obviously there might be masons, but he said townies wouldn't get a list of other players, so he clearly wasn't talking about them. What other groups would have something similar? Only one.. (well two potentially, but both are evil).

Those are good points.. I'll review that when I get to work in  the morning..  he's been suspect from day one (seeing as it's still day one actually)
as I remember he asked if there was a list.. I dont remember any reference to him having some kind of knowledge if a list actually exists..

[laserblue]

Laserblue is another i seem to feel suspicious towards, as i do his nemesis, Afroboy.

 

lol...There's been a lot happening since I was last on......... In that post I put FOS on Bluestars for bluffing her way through.... mophead because all his posts were mainly someone else's & roomforrookie as he had not posted for time.... with Roomforrookie gone I still think Bluestars & Mophead are sus  but for now i'm going to give mophead the benefit of the doubt cause it maybe cause he's 11 & a new player .... apart from the last post when she  really had to come out & say something bluestars has just waffled her way through & since that post has not said much if anything so I'm voting Bluestars

about Mike I've gone through thinking it was cause he was new then thinking he was evil then thinking maybe or maybe not .. I can't make my mind up about him

[Steve Van Halen]

i think i have given good reasons for not voting for steveryals whilst mikeblue seems to think it to be a mafia motive. Personally i believe this is because he doesnt want the townie contingent to be too strong and is looking to weaken us on day one. I honestly believe steveryals to be an innocent and an asset to the town.

Im still suspicous of trick pony and mophead though but the latter is young and inexperienced. needs to be monitored.

Vote Mikeblue. This isnt tit for tat. I think he is mafia and can see people starting to suss out who is innocent and siding with each other and his vote for me is an attempt to cast doubts among the innocent townies

[stevenryals]

ATTENTION ALL TOWNIES:  PLEASE READ AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND:
(it's early, and i'm still on my coffee... so i'm hoping this makes sense"

1st, I think we should rethink Mike blue..  he could be evil, but I feel more positive about Trick Pony..
the only problem is, tricky isnt going to be back until Tuesday..  but read this..

Right I'm going to sniff the mafia out now with the help of my PI I have just hired...... 

could this be a role claim possibly?

How many mafia are there?

How many townies are there?

And are we using any other roles?

is this the one you are talking about Hippo?  where mike asked for a list? or claimed knowledte of a list..   I think you may be mistaken..  look at trick pony's posts below..  I think it is he that has this new list...



Now, after going back and reading through..  I'm going to have to say I'm not sure about Mike ..  but Trick Pony may be my new vote....  I feel more positive about it than I do about mike blue...

Didnt post in the first 3 pages, first post:  VOTES for AMADJIN for not posting in 3 days.. even though he himself  has not posted for 3 days..
http://happyaxeman.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=9774.msg108590#msg108590

secondly: 
second post, responds tit for tat, i voted trickster for jumping on the bandwaggon and he responds with "unvote amadjin, vote stevenryals"    and says "thats quick"... whats quick is how you pounced in with an immediate vote for someone who could be innocent..

and then he says this: 

obviously you KNOW that im not associated with you

now, would a newbie know that the mafia get a list of who's mafia?  NO.. they wouldnt..[/b]
this is the give away I believe..  I think this is an admission of guilt.  He's not claiming anything to do with masons..  but he's saying he knows that the MAFIA have knowledge of each other..  only mafia and past players know that.. 

Trick Pony, you are the weakest link..
http://happyaxeman.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=9774.msg108594#msg108594

next:  miasg and trick pony go back and forth for hours...   is this a distraction?  could they be in cahoots?? who knows..  they work together so it could be a bit of banter as well..

then trick pony goes on for a few more posts on page 7 with the moderator, and just goofing about..  not really saying anything game related..

he's out from saturday - tuesday on holiday i think per one of his posts..

now, on page 8, bluestars says she's confused:  Trick pony says:

Im thinking a lucky guess is the way to go as I cant see anyone posting any clues on day one and the bandwagon is probably the only way this will happen, so I vote MikeBlue for now to keep things moving along, no specific reason just seems the most suspicious by lack of posts

Game Set Match... Mafia.. I cant see anyone innocent doing much of this...

also, remember the post where he declares someone has knowledge of a list..  but at this point HE himself should (if he were innocent) have NO knowledge of any lists or whatnot.. 

UNVOTE MOPHEAD (even though i'm fairly positive you are evil, or cult, or something not good)

VOTE TRICK PONY

[MIASG]

next:  miasg and trick pony go back and forth for hours...   is this a distraction?  could they be in cahoots?? who knows..  they work together so it could be a bit of banter as well..

ahh I voted for Trick Pony like 6-7 pages ago and stated a few times why I think he's mafia and why I haven't changed my vote .. and I haven't changed my vote so far since I voted for him. 

Is it a distraction? no
Am I in cahoots? no - by all means vote for him
The moderator sits next to us like 2m away so he'd notify all of you if we were playing outside the rule .. as I've stated in previous email (p4 or 5) TP basically giggles and says he's posted about me and I should log in - that's about it.  There are a few people who know each other and I'm sure they are also playing by the rules.
Also because we are in Australia most of our posts would follow each other .. like the Europe ones when I log in and the US ones during the afternoon .. it's like 11pm I'm tired I'm going to bed.  just over 24 hours to go and I'm sure when I next log in we'll be on page 15 

[Steve Van Halen]

very tempted to change my vote back. so far I have voted for just trick pony and mike blue (the roomforrookie vote was just for the good of the game) but your argument in support of mike blue seems to make sense, perhaps he is just genuinely suspicous of me after all. its early in the game and everyone bar me is a suspect in my eyes!

im going to unvote mike blue and change my vote back to

vote trick pony although if trick pony turns out to be innocent miasg may look suspicous for the exchanges between them.

[stevenryals]

I wonder if MIASG had informed trick pony before the game of the roles adn the fact that Mafia members do in fact get a list of thier comrades..  can you confirm or deny this MIASG?  It's important, if you didnt, I'm 100% sure he's mafia.. if you did.. my argument is useless because he would have that knowledge anyway..

please respond before the deadline

[yorkshire blue]

first you vote for mike blue
then change your mind and try and get a bandwaggon goin on trick pony
while he is away and cant defend him self
looking more and more sus steven

[Steve Van Halen]

to be fair I think that Trick Pony has looked suspicous for a while but our american friend cant make his mind up!