Mafia 8 - The Kingmaker - Assassins Victory

[laserblue]

what about dotleo

has not been on for ages & when he did he just voted for me & steven ryals cause we have same avant (or whatever)

is this suspicious .......or just me being paranoid

[Sir Villain]

what about dotleo

has not been on for ages & when he did he just voted for me & steven ryals cause we have same avant (or whatever)

is this suspicious .......or just me being paranoid

Paranoia in this game is a good thing. I admit Dotleo looks shifty, but I think that is just his general demeanor. His popping on just stir things up with a vote is looking dodgy though. I wonder what he has to say on the matter.....

[*Afroboy*]

It's really quiet so i thought i'd post because no one else has for ages, i vote everyone beacause you're all suspicious in one way or another (well most people) but that would be pointless so unvote everyone!!!

[Happy Axeman]

the first day is always the hardest for people to play in, but this seems to be taking longer than usual, 220+ posts suggest this.
I know i personaly havent contributed much, but i have really been pushed for time lately due to site maintenance after my BB being down, i will be on much more in the afternoons now.

But we need yorkshire to look at who has voted who so far, try and look at the major events of the day, and make there decision based on there instincts, otherwise the day will never end. lol

its a never ending mafia story. e-e-eee-e-e-eee-e-e-ee 

VOTE FOZZA - for getting annoyed at Mr Ryals for getting his name wrong. lol
VOTE STEVE VAN HALEN - For taking things a bit too far.
VOTE STEVEN RYALS - for winding up. my spider sense reckons he is acting very suspicously. lol
VOTE TOMMY CATONS HAIRSTYLIST - Cause he really does need his Hair cut. lol 
VOTE AFROBOY - As above. lol  and for voting for anyone and no-one when there not even playing! lol
VOTE THE QUIGMASTER - My Instincts always sway to Hammers brother being evil for some reason. lol

[dotLeo]

what about dotleo

has not been on for ages & when he did he just voted for me & steven ryals cause we have same avant (or whatever)

is this suspicious .......or just me being paranoid

well, I was reading and taking part now and then, but it all got a bit silly, so I thought I would sit out this day and resume proceedings tomorrow..

[Sir Villain]

well, I was reading and taking part now and then, but it all got a bit silly, so I thought I would sit out this day and resume proceedings tomorrow..

If everyone did that then it would be a bit of a shit day

[dotLeo]

you're right, as usual for once

I'll have a read of it tomorrow and see what I can conclude..

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Sorry for the lack of activity over the last couple of days but it was the weekend !!

I don't really have any new suspicions reading through the last few pages though it was good to seen some new posters but i am going to vote Manic because i haven't seem him/her post at all yet.

 

[ChurchofHalo]

Not sure everyone should be being quite so paranoid in the first day of the game, all it does is force everyone into thier shells, it too early to make any real assumptions about people because its till the first day.

[ManicMonkeyMan]

Sorry for the lack of activity over the last couple of days but it was the weekend !!

I don't really have any new suspicions reading through the last few pages though it was good to seen some new posters but i am going to vote Manic because i haven't seem him/her post at all yet.

 

well i have posted a few times, not really a valid reason for voting is it and if i was a she there would not be a man at the end of my name   ive not really got many suspects at the mo, steven ryals is my main one though, he is just evil to the bone

[Sir Villain]

It is hard to catch an assassin on the first day, but there is a small chance it could work out. Look in the Zombie game. The town lynched a Godfather on the first day, so it can be done. Even if the lynch is wrong as long as we have had enough discussion and gained information then its not a pointless day.

You say its too early to make assumptions, but I have made a few.I've noticed that Steven and Bluestars seem just to constantly back each other up and might be in a group. Later on we can go back and see what people said today and use it. Obviously that won't happen if people just post nothing worthwhile like alot have been.
The fact that I am the main suspect for claiming mason (when my innocence has been backed up by Mo1ey) when I was under pressure after "suggesting an idea" shows how much people have been hiding in their shells already.

The people that just come on to say some inane comment with a vote are looking shifty to me and also people like Currieman and Steve Van Halen have been much quieter than in past game and have so far slipped under the radar.

Obviously like you say Churchy this is all just suspisions and paranoia at this point, but by doing stuff like this you can get an opinion on people by their reactions (or lack of one).


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Does anyone else think this may have been a freudian slip from Stevenryals?

but we kill them in the night phase

and yes hammer, i'm very sure the town can kill at night..

These two seem strongly to indicate that Steven can kill at night. Anyone else agree?

Then Tommy posted this

well most have disagreed with Hammers rules except Fozza so maybe those two are working in conjuntion and trying to gain some control over the king by getting Hammers extra rules put in place.

and Steven responded with

This sounds suspicious, a blab post stating that they are guilty because they want control over who gets executed; when the simple fact is, if the town controls who gets executed, it obviously give the town more power, but thats not the game we are playing... 

Doesn't this strike you as a bit odd? Steven and Bluestars have been virtually the only critics to the guidelines and now Steven is sticking up for what he seemed to be really angry about only a day or two ago in this post

SHIT MAN... this is retarded... Hammer, you've gotta stop...  can you not see that all the shit you are proposing is just a formality of what is ALREADY going to happen... a town oriented king is going to do what the town says...  assisins may not, but we kill then in the night phase or the next day the new king kills them... damn...  is that really so hard for you to grasp.. but dont put rules on it, thats the point of the game...
damn...  i'm so annoyed with you right now

This was shortly after my post attacking Tommy for ramming his newness down our throats. Steven quickly backed me up and then voted Tommy later for that post. Seems to me like he was hoping a bandwagon would start on Tommy.

Confirm Vote:Stevenryals for his Doublethink

[stevenryals]

1st, hammer, there are no bandwaggons in this game, as our votes dont even really count, it's all up to yorkshire.

secondly, I could come out and tell everyone what my role it, but it would be somewhat anticlimactic seeing as I'm not the hero, or a doctor, or a cop...  this game, this time around, is a little more painful to some roles for reasons that are obvious if you have those roles.  I'm sure there are a few that would agree.  And if you are a mason, lynching me would definately not help the townies out.  You're best to focus your attention elsewhere.  Oh, I cant protecte you either, nor can I heal you or make anything.  Pull up all the posts you wish, and quote them like they are the bible if you want, but the simple fact is, after day one I have been and will be one of the most important townies simply because I like to route out evil and also because I sit behind a computer for 9 hours a day at work and play this game.  In conclusion, I've made it fairly obvious what my role is here, and making a big deal out of it is just asking the mafia to kill me in the night phase, of course that would help thier cause much... so.. Just like in the last game, I got rid of hippo before I went after anyone else that I knew were not on my disgusting zombie team simply because I knew he spent a lot of time reading and looking into things and that is a more important role that investigating or healing or anything...  because when it comes down to it, that's how you win the game.

Thirdly, I have kinda stuck with bluestarsneyes... and there's a good reason...   she's got the goods man...    But to be totally honest, I have a hunch that she is guilty.  She acts funny when she grabs my laptop (no jokes please) and reads the board..  she just acts funny..  I think when it all comes down to it, you'll all see that she is guilty.. but I cant prove anything because there is no 'past actions' to rely on, and voting pattern is a bit lacked in this game thus far..  But I think you'll see..

didnt call you war mongering fat jerks or anything like that did i?

VOTE steve van halen   for continuing to be an ass

[Sir Villain]

Pull up all the posts you wish, and quote them like they are the bible if you want,

Yeah, thanks I will. Thats the point of the game.

You have not really answered my post at all. I was just wondering whether or not you have converted and now agree with the guidelines which you were so against a few days ago? I don't actually think you are mafia I was just wondering about those posts I quoted where you say you can kill people at night.

And yes there are bandwagons. If it was all up to Yorkshire, where is he and what investigation work has he done to help find these assassins. Basically after 1 week of real time we have still come down to a random pick.

Just like in the last game, I got rid of hippo before I went after anyone else that I knew were not on my disgusting zombie team simply because I knew he spent a lot of time reading and looking into things and that is a more important role that investigating or healing or anything...  because when it comes down to it, that's how you win the game.

Then why have you been constantly having a go at me just for trying to do something? Even now in your last post you criticise "quoting stuff like the bible"?

[bluestarsneyes]

I'm not aligned with anyone.....I just happen to agree with Steven sometimes because...we had the same opinion.
But a few others agreed with him also....and like Steven....I have a job behind a computer all day...and last week
was boring at work...so I posted.

I haven't read all of the posts from the weekend...so I'm going to read a bit more...but I just think
Manic has something to hide.
He's at the top of my lists.....I have nothing to go on...except that is posts are few...very short...and
he doesn't have much to say even to really deny being mafia or anything.....it's just the same excuse
as a few others....nothing going on in the game....so got nothing to say.

So....overall....i'm ready for the game to begin really because this is sort of boring...

P.S......I'm cracking up that Steven thinks I'm suspicious with the laptop...hahaha!
We agreed that we would keep our roles secret from one another to make it more fun....
I didn't know I was being suspicious.....just playing the game

[stevenryals]

yo, hammer, I've always thought your guidelines were a protown idea, and good for the town.. but I also know that #1 it's not ok to make up rules after the game starts.  #2, those guidelines would be unenforcable.  #3 those consequences that you speak of are already in place.  So, agree or not, I dont think your rules were well thought out in the least.  Because without any talk of it, if a king were to break anyof the 'unwritten rules' of this game, he would surely suffer the consequences the following night or the next day.
sorry for 'having a go at you' so to speak nothing harsh meant

bluestarsneyes...wh y do you think manic has something to hide?  his lack of posting, what??

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

sorry Manic, when i re-read the list of entrants and you were listed as Manic not ManicMonkeyMan, so when i skimmed through the posts i was only looking for Manic. So unvote Manic

Axeman i've had a haircut so can you unvote me now ?   

The only conclusion i have come to though which would not involve a general townie to be killed would be killing Hammer or Mo1ey. But as regards to who the real Mafia are i still as yet have no clue.

[bluestarsneyes]

You know what....I just said I was suspicious of him...I take it back....no evidence...I just seem him posting little...
but then again....so many others have posted much less....I don't know...I'm not calling anyone out yet...still reading...
Sorry...it's Monday...and I'm moody.


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Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer, stevenryals, Happy Axeman (3)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist (1)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, mo1ey UK, amadjin, Happy Axeman (4)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo, manic, fozza, Happy Axeman (5)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: tommy catons hairstylist, amadjin, Happy Axeman (3)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)
Steve Van Halen: afroboy, Happy Axeman, stevenryals (3)
Amadjin: Tommy catons hairstylist, Happy Axeman, stevenryals (3)
Manic: stevenryals (1)
afroboy: Happy Axeman (1)

[stevenryals]

Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo, manic, fozza, Happy Axeman (5)

that sucks.. hammer said he doesnt necessarily think i'm guilty...
dotleo and manic voted for me simply because i voted for them
fozza voted for me because i called him fogga and fossa and fobba..  
happy axeman just voted almost everybody... so..

that sucks..

I guess I'll play the game as everyone seems to be playing..

VOTE FOZZA
VOTE HAPPYAXEMAN
VOTE SIRHAMMER
VOTE AFRO
VOTE LASERBLUE

is that how it's supposed to be doen?


just kidding,

UNVOTE ALL MY VOTES

vote manicmonkeyman  I have a feeling about him and quigg....

[Sir Villain]

#1 it's not ok to make up rules after the game starts. 

Are you trying to annoy me? I have pointed it out countless times and you still have not grasped that we are not "making up rules". The creator of the game has already said that any system we decide to impose is "well within the rules of the game"

#2, those guidelines would be unenforcable.

Why would they be unenforcable? If the King chooses to go against the guidelines, then he will be under pressure tomorrow and possiblely lynched for it. Thats how its enforced.

#3 those consequences that you speak of are already in place. 

So, agree or not, I dont think your rules were well thought out in the least.  Because without any talk of it, if a king were to break anyof the 'unwritten rules' of this game, he would surely suffer the consequences the following night or the next day.
sorry for 'having a go at you' so to speak nothing harsh meant

If they are already in place then whats the problem with giving it a try?
So at some point according to you my ideas have been good, not thought out well, protown, unenforceable and retarded. Pretty contradictory.
People can read this and get worked up over me labouring my point again or try to listen to what I have to say. At least it will give a shape to the rest of this day which has gone painfully stale thanks to lurkers and "no-thinkers".

[Steve Van Halen]

This game is getting out of hand and its not getting anywhere. Someone PM me when normality is resumed