Mafia 8 - The Kingmaker - Assassins Victory

[Sir Villain]

Vote:Billyman

seems he has been online recently and is still in hiding......

[stevenryals]

poor billy...  i hope he doesnt sing this time.. or ask hippo for a bj.....

[hippo]

BILLYMAN currently cannot post as there's something wrong with his account. This should be sorted whenever axeman appears, or just randomly like amadjin's account did.

[laserblue]

Yeh got back from work early so i logged on to see if i'd been terminated already.... ha
no seriously i havent been on all this time just left it on & reduced the screen to check back every so often.

" laser blues been on alot and not posted apart from his random vote which is no help"

i'm new to this so i'ts not suprising really........ i dont have a clue who to vote for(not that our votes count at the mo) just waiting for some inspiration

[dotLeo]

can't wait for Billyman to get on to hook us up with his usual list of percentages and predictions

vote laserblue, stevenryals for having the same avatar and making things confusing.

[stevenryals]

See... this is the only reason that i think Hammers ideas are good...

votes mean nothing, and people are throwing them out like they are used bathwater... 

Here is how the game goes... You try to convince the king who to kill based on REAL REASONS, and vote for who you REALLY think needs to go, also FOR REAL REASONS.  My avatar has nothing to do with this game, dont be childish and try to be funny.  To me that is a way of someone trying to sound comfortable, when they probably have something to hide.

FOS DOTLEO
FOS AMADJIN

They both post short quipps that make them sound, to me, very suspicious.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

well most have disagreed with Hammers rules except Fozza so maybe those two are working in conjuntion and trying to gain some control over the king by getting Hammers extra rules put in place.

So

Vote 1 Hammer

Vote 2 Fossa


 

[hippo]

Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer (1)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist, bluestarsneyes (2)
Billyman: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
Happy Axeman: Amadjin (1)
Manic: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
ChurchofHalo: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Mo1ey UK: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, Fozza (2)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo (2)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: laserblue, tommy catons hairstylist (2)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)

I won't be keeping track of FOS (finger of suspicion), as with this format, you are able to vote for all of your suspects.

[dotLeo]

See... this is the only reason that i think Hammers ideas are good...

votes mean nothing, and people are throwing them out like they are used bathwater... 

Here is how the game goes... You try to convince the king who to kill based on REAL REASONS, and vote for who you REALLY think needs to go, also FOR REAL REASONS.  My avatar has nothing to do with this game, dont be childish and try to be funny.  To me that is a way of someone trying to sound comfortable, when they probably have something to hide.

FOS DOTLEO
FOS AMADJIN

They both post short quipps that make them sound, to me, very suspicious.

Of course, real reasons are a plenty today.  Apologies for missing them.

This igame is meant to be fun too, and not all serious.. chill out

When I have real suspicions and evidence to go on, you can be sure I will back up my votes with something more than a joke.  Until then, voting people can get them talking, as I think you have no doubt mentioned.

[ManicMonkeyMan]

right guys, mine and axemans internet got cut-off last friday, thats why we have not been on will have to read up before casting my vote(s)

[Sir Villain]

well most have disagreed with Hammers rules except Fozza so maybe those two are working in conjuntion and trying to gain some control over the king by getting Hammers extra rules put in place.
So

Vote 1 Hammer

Vote 2 Fossa

1. You don't need to vote me every post. It stays on me until you choose to unvote.

2. Fozza, Amadjin, Churchofhalo, Currieman, Dotleo at least have all accepted that the "Guidelines" are a good way to go forward.
So far the only real objection has come from you, Quigmaster, Steven (who in his last post said that they are good?) and Bluestars. I'm glad to see you trying to work stuff out and connect people, but you are well wrong on this case.

Unvote:Axeman, Billyman, Manic, Churchofhalo, Moleyuk

Stop focusing on me and focus on finding the assassins.

[stevenryals]

I've always thought they were good hammer, but i think it's a bad idea to circumvent the system of having a king and add rules to make us more powerful.  We are peasants and have no control over a king, and thats how this game is set up.  In real life, you try to impose rules on your king, you get murdered publicly as an example....  when i say real life, i mean, you know.. lik... 1000 years ago real life... 


dotleo, my point is, when people get on here and vote for two people because of thier avatar, it's suspicious because its one of those posts that say "i dont want to say anything serious, because someone may read into it an find my assassin nature, so i'll just post a quick little joke,  and everyone will laugh, see my name and think, 'hey dotleo is contributing'..."  but in reality, your not..
it's suspicious to me

vote dotleo


I was looking at the vote count a few posts back...
and funny enought, SIR HAMMER have voted for everyone but axeman, dotleo, fozza and laserblue.  This may be a core of our assassins here.  however, a couple of them may ben in a mason type role, and hammer may have simply overlooked dotleo's suspicion..

vote hammer

also not, when it was said that laserblue had been on all day, hammer was right in to defend him. 

Probably just taking stuff in. I would rather people took their time and posted only when they had something to say or when they were answering someone else.

I believe these two are linked in some way, they probably know each others orientation, evil or good... 

[Sir Villain]

I've always thought they were good hammer, but i think it's a bad idea to circumvent the system of having a king and add rules to make us more powerful.  We are peasants and have no control over a king, and thats how this game is set up.  In real life, you try to impose rules on your king, you get murdered publicly as an example....  when i say real life, i mean, you know.. lik... 1000 years ago real life... 

I was looking at the vote count a few posts back...
and funny enought, SIR HAMMER have voted for everyone but axeman, dotleo, fozza and laserblue.  This may be a core of our assassins here.  however, a couple of them may ben in a mason type role, and hammer may have simply overlooked dotleo's suspicion..

vote hammer

also not, when it was said that laserblue had been on all day, hammer was right in to defend him. 
I believe these two are linked in some way, they probably know each others orientation, evil or good... 

This isn't 1000 years ago or current times in the Middle East. This is a game with a system that we are meant to exploit in an attempt to win the game. Anyway in real life, the House of Commons impose rules on our Queen all the time and even though she has no say in them she still has to sign the documents. If she rebelled and didn't sign a Government Bill then our Monarchy would be abolished.

As for your findings on my Voting, I did vote Axeman and Dotleo earlier on in the game and I have unvoted them. I unvoted Axeman because I found out that he wasn't lurking just that he couldn't get online and I unvoted Dotleo because my vote on him at the start was just a joke for disrespecting the King.
You insult me by saying I would give away my masons partners or assassin partners in such a stupid way by voting everyone else. The reason I have not voted Laserblue and Fozza is because they have been reasonably active and as far as I can remember have been supportive of the Guidelines.
The people I have voted for are the people who are rebelling against it and just want all the pressure on one person they can more easily manipulate or those who just want me executed for posting what I think would be a good idea.

[stevenryals]

SO, you are saying that everyone's guild rides on thier adoption of your guidelines?  Thats not quite fair now is it? 

You state you opinion, we state ours.  You want them, we think the rules are fine as they are; and because we disagree with you that makes us guilty in your opinion.  Sounds like a cheap way to point the finger at people.  Lets just play the game as it is, as hippo set it up and get on with it.  I'm quite tired of discussing rules.  Do what you want, I dont even care! But for GOD sakes lets get on with it!!!


Any why were you so quick to defend laserblue?  There are plenty of other people in here that haven't posted that you didnt defend?  You didn't stand up when Mo1ey UK or Billyman were fingered as lunkers..  even though you did post during those times.. why chose Laserblue to defend?  Whats special about him that made you jump to his defense?

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

this first day is taking forever, does it normally take this long ? It's getting like Groundhog day !!

My main objection Hammer is it's Hippo's game and his rules, if you didn't like them then you could have not played, trying to add extra 'guildlines'. As you've posted most and the most reply worthy posts then you should have expected to get more spotlight on you and votes.

Being my first attempt i'm still feeling my way on what to do, but i'm giving it a go and posting my thoughts, as if your vote counted i'd be dead in the morning, whenever morning actually arrives. So i might as well post incase i don't last long.

Well i'm off to bed, so i'll read the developments in the morning.


 

[Sir Villain]

For F**ks sake, this is like talking to Zombies.
Your all sticking together in your little Man City group and constantly going after me at every little thing. Everytime I look in the thread there is a post attacking me for some obscure thing like saying that because its someones first game you can give them some slack for not posting everytime they are on like like the Laserblue thing. I have no ties with anyone in this game other than....read on

I am going to endanger myself and claim because I am worried Yorkshire is just going to execute me while others lurk away. I am a Mason with Mo1ey and we are both Pro-Town. I breadcrumbed this earlier in this post

He was the most obscure 1 enormous yak

I am doing this for one main reason.
Hopefully the Mafia will try to kill me or Mo1ey tonight and although the Doctor might save one of us it looks like one of us will die, however as long as the Kingmaker chooses both of us then for next days King then at least you know for certain you have a pro-town King. Remember that at the moment only Yorkshire and the Assassins know what team our King is on, which concerns me. I still think strongly that on these early days we should have as weak a king as possible and then later on when we have more information he should get his real power back.

Final thoughts as I won't post again in this Day unless directly questioned
The Kingmaker is probably in that little Man City clan, simply because who else would have picked Yorkshire other than someone just recognising him from the Man City boards.
The King should have a little list of people he thinks are "executable" and he should post it every time he updates it to give people time to explain themselves and so on.


I will never mention the "guidelines" again if the majority goes against it so lets make this a Democracy inside of a Totalitarian

Votes For
Sir Hammer

Votes Against

[laserblue]

hi everyone
just home from work so i'll spend a little time catching up on reading the posts before i make any reply

[stevenryals]

interesting turn of events from hammer, as someone who's modded many of these games, he should know how bad of an idea it was of him to come out on day one.  also, i wonder if he had mo1ey UK's  permission to do that.

Coming out and showing your role is great, especially when the rules are all very new, and the game format is way different that usual, because mafia could come out and say something like that, and be considered innocent for many days.  I do not take your role-reveal as a free pass to innocence.  however, if you are a mason, that was probably a bad idea...  just my opinion.. maybe it will work for you..

unvote hammer

[laserblue]

"I was looking at the vote count a few posts back...
and funny enought, SIR HAMMER have voted for everyone but axeman, dotleo, fozza and laserblue.  This may be a core of our assassins here.  however, a couple of them may ben in a mason type role, and hammer may have simply overlooked dotleo's suspicion.."

if this is true then why did i vote for fozza

also i think if you go back & count again i think you will find there are more people that hammer has not voted for than you have named on your list.

[hippo]

Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer (1)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist, bluestarsneyes(2)
Billyman: Amadjin (1)
Happy Axeman: Amadjin (1)
Manic: Amadjin (1)
ChurchofHalo: Amadjin (1)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Mo1ey UK: Amadjin (1)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, Fozza (2)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo (2)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: laserblue, tommy catons hairstylist (2)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)

It'd be appreciated if people didn't repeat a vote that they've already made. Unless they've unvoted since, and wish to vote for that person again.