Mafia 7: Snakes & Zombies on a Plane Mafia - Tie!

[stevenryals]

unvote rayginbull  just for now... 

what is your role raygin..  give details

[Steve Van Halen]

How do you know the Zombies can recruit? Whats your obsession with the head Zombie? I have told you that Manic was hypnotised by a snake, we have only caught one snake so chances are there are two left and one zombie. That leaves me on my own. I want to take one of you with me and its either Raygin or Stevenryals

[Steve Van Halen]

unvote raygin bull as im uncertain if you are stevenryals should be chucked off the fucking plane

[stevenryals]

I dont think i should be chucked off the plane SVH, i think you're fishing.  I think, depending on rayginbulls response to my last post, he is probably the zombie leader..  and I assume they can recruit because everyone who has died has died from a snakebite.  and as in the past, there must be a cult on here somewhere.

I'm pretty sure that raygin is a zombie and svh and amadjin are either a recruit or a snake.  probably amadjin a snake and svh a recruit..


one thing i know about cults from the 'mixed theme' game is that if they try to recruit anyone evil, they will die.  so they may have only recruited one, or none even, to avoid the chance of being killed by a snake.. 

svh if you throw me off this plane, i garuantee you will lose this game..

i garuantee that if we both voted for raygin bull, amadjin wouldnt vote for him because he's a recruit(i believe).  two votes isn't a lynch, it'll take three for a lynch.  so.. maybe we should see what amadjin does.. 

-steven

[Steve Van Halen]

You have put my suspiscions off you a little. But Im still wary.


I've come out as a mason. This is how i knew Manic wasnt a cop. Think about it how else would I know that his findings would be false?


What is everyone elses role? Its important now more than ever. If theres any innocents left other than me we can still win the game

[Steve Van Halen]

if amadjin evil i say we kill him but ill go for either one of them
anyone who says im a dodgy cop is wrong i investigated york and he came back clean  at this point i dont think there are enough of us innocents to make a lynch work.  but i think rayginbull is innocent for sure other than that everyone could be evil

Again look to this post implying that Raygin is innocent when I know for a fact he was told to say this by someone. This is shortly after Steve said he thought Raygin was innocent. This points the finger back at you steve as you have also been saying for a while that amadjin is evil.

I want to hear from Raygin. If he has a role I want to know what it is.

[stevenryals]

I know that one of you are the zombie leader,  and i think coming out right now, before the result of the lynch is like suicide..  the reason i want raygin to come out is to compare his detail to mine, and try to read into the way hammer set up this game and see if maybe his role is real.  my role had 1 night action that i used last night on raygin..

i know that either raygin or svh is the zombie leader, as amadjin outed fozza on day 1.  

svh if you really are innocent then we have a chance, becuase that means to me that 2 v 2 is a good matchup. that means that the zombies didnt recruit and no matter who we vote for we chould be able to get a lynch.

And, as I've said before, svh, i was convinced that raygin was innocent yesterday, and actually, i was pretty sure that you were the zombie leader..  even through the end of yesterday.. but the story about you two being masons and manic being controlled is the only thing that makes sense..  well, it doesnt really make sense, but it's the only thing possible for the details of the past day or so add up ..

-steven

[stevenryals]

p.s.  raygin logged off after seeing my request for him to roleclaim..

[Steve Van Halen]

Perhaps im looking into that false post by Manic too much. Im starting to believe that you are another innocent but if I get this wrong the town loses

[sweeney]

I am very dubios about roleclaiming at this stage of the game, however, like I have said, there are subtle clues about my identity, and someone has even got it correct. Look it up if you want to find out

Hardly any of you believed Axeman, when it was a pefectly reasonable explaination of how he saved MMM.

Steven is right about previous roles when they try to recruit another evil person I think.

You will figure out who I am, therefore I am a passenger.

Which leaves the 3 of you. 1 snake and 1 zombie for sure.

I believe that the other may be a passenger who has some sort of protection which has got them this far through the game.

[Steve Van Halen]

Theres 27 pages mate. Say who you are.

Ive come out as a mason that is how I knew that Manic was not a cop. His false investigation targeted Church which was incorrect. I knew this and said it out loud. Another of his posts said that he thinks you are innocent. He never told me this during the night therefore Im starting to suspect that you were the one that told him what to say and to imply that you are innocent.

Unfortunatly Manic did not know who hypnotised him just that he was hypnotised by a snake. If theres still an innocent left and two of you claim to have roles come out with it so we can turn this around and win the game.

[stevenryals]

Really Raygin, it's the last day or two why do you refuse to show your role...  i believe you are the zombie and i think you should be thrown off the plane...

my role is a punk..  i'm a freaking punk and i look like billy idol.. i had one night vigilante kill and tried to kill raygin last night.. and it didnt work.. so.. thats why im sure hes the zombie...  you cant kill a zombie with a razorblade, which is what i snuck on the plane. (kind of in bas taste there hammer).. i believe that svh is innocent or a recruit.. but it doesnt matter because once raygin is gone, you will be an innocent again.. 

vote rayginbull

-steven

[Steve Van Halen]

Looking at previous posts I have seen that Steve has pointed at Raygin and Amadjin a few times. Im just waiting for one of you to confirm to me that you are innocent.

If you look at Hippos posts you will see that on a few occasions he has said that he doesnt believe that I am evil even when I had been away. This along with my claims that Hippo and Manic were innocent, which they were, backs up my claim that Hippo, Manic and myself were masons. I am the only remaining mason and an innocent for definite. There has to be 1 other remaining innocent or the game would be over. Which one of you is it?

[stevenryals]

I'm not contesting that you were a mason, the only thing I'm wondering in the back of my mind is that you may have been recruited.. if so, then you would be trying to keep the spotlight off the zombie leader.  However, since I believe Amadjin can't be the zombie leader it must be Raygin, coupled with my failed night action last night.  But the thought is still there, I'm just waiting for a twist from hammer because it seem like I know whats going on right now, and that never happens in these games.

-steven

[sweeney]

I am a bad mutherfuker.

Sam Jackson at your service.

You cannot kill me and there are only certain ways that I can die which, if you tried to kill me last night, it would've failed, as I am guessing you wouldn't have been the first 

Cos I am a bad muther, and will kick these fuckin snakes of this plane

One of the other Steve's is either a snake or a zombie, but I still cannot decide which is which.

[stevenryals]

NOW I CAN SEE 'BETWEEN THE LINES' ..  I read through every single post...  and there is ONE more reason that SVH would have known about manic.  If manic had been recruited and SVH is the head honcho.

Raygin, you have been dropping those hints throughout the game, and I missed it. 

I know for hammer had to put SJ on the plane, and now I'm thinking Raygin and I are the only two innocents left.  SVH has played a great game thus far and had me convinced of his innocence.  But the thought that there has to be a snake and a zombie left, and I know hammer would have put Samuel Jackson on here, that leads me to believe that SVH has been lying.

UNVOTE RAYGIN BULL
VOTE STEVEVANHALEN

Hammer wouldn't have replaced the 'lead character' from the movie this game is themed from with a mason... not possible..

-steven

[Steve Van Halen]

how would I have known that Manic was lying? Easy, he was on my side same as hippo who was a target of both Steve and Amadjin the other night


Vote Steveryals

How else would he have known that the zombies had recruitment powers? He has been playing the game better than anyone hence why I thought that it was you that was the mafia. Thats why he made manic say that he thinks you are innocent to make it look like you made him say it.

Your call Raygin. If you throw me off its you V 2 mafia that much is certain now

[stevenryals]

(nice tit for tat vote there SVH)
Firstly, There is no way Sir Hammer would forget to put the main character from this movie in this game.  Not a chance.   I believe Raygin is in fact what he says he is.  Reading back through there are a few times where he says "in my best samuel jackson voice, lets throw these mother f***king snakes off this plane"...  unless this is an very drastically elaborate ploy from day 1 he is what he says he is. 

Now, one point I'll make towards your "mason" claim.   

in every game but one hammer has made 2 people masons, not three.  This game had fewer players than the game hammer had 4.  If you were the zombie you would be able to talk to whoever you recruited, and you must have recruited hippo and manic.  and the reason i know they can recruit is because i'm not dumb and I know how this game is played and I understand how hammer sets these games up.  The fact that you are playing stuipd at that fact leads me even more to believe that you are in fact the lead zombie. 
 VOTE SVH  just for emphasis.

-steven

[Steve Van Halen]

Not a chance. Its not tit for tat like you say its pure elimination. You a very clever player thats why you had Manic post that Amadjin is guilty (something which you have been saying since very early on in the game) and that he thought Raygin was innocent. This was to deflect attention away from you as you knew I was onto to something.


Hippo Manic and myself had never mentioned Raygin. We have been suspiscous of you for a long time. Your clever tactic though made me suspect Raygin (wrongly, sorry Raygin).

This much is clear. You are the the head snake. Amadjin is a zombie.

I havent been a mason before but I can tell you now there were three this time. Myself, Hippo and Manic. Hippo was the head mason so I would back him up when possible.

If I am thrown off the town loses. Its that simple

[Sir Villain]

Vote Count

1-Stevenryals (Steve Van Halen)
1-Steve Van Halen (Stevenryals)

Not Voting: Amadjin, Raygyn Bull

3 Votes for a lynch