Mafia 7: Snakes & Zombies on a Plane Mafia - Tie!

[stevenryals]

4 posts in a row with votes, looks suspicious to me.  however, reading through I notice that after the death of Fozza, hammers 'morning 2' comments mentioned the stinch of zombies.  So I dont think that Fozza had the chance to 'recruit' anyone due to his death, so that means since day 1, there had to be 1 other zombie at least.  As hippo has pointed out, with the lack of night kills, there must have been some recruit attempts going on.  so, there are probably at least 2 zombies out there right now, and I have to aggree that the evidence that hippo has brought out is convincing of one thing, that quig has been a non player, and not really 'trying to route out evil'.    The one quote that convinces me is this one:

There isn't  much evidence for anyone at the moment that I can see so I think we should lynch the person who is contributing the least. Other then me.

remember, this is after a plethora of info had been posted on Fozza, who turned out to be a zombie.  I also believe that this is exactly what it seems to be, a deflection for his partner.

That said, and at the risk of being wrong and looking like a bandwaggoner....  VOTE QUIG
Also remember, that quig has been in my top 3 suspects list as well.. along with Amadjin and SVH. However, I think Churchy has replaced amadjin on the list.

-steven

[Sir Villain]

The group get excited, they smell blood. They gather around theQuigmaster dragging him towards the back of the plane. As he kicks and screams no one notices a cial of potion fall out shattering on the floor. The juice rolls out and splashes Currieman?s dead body sparking a mass acidic reaction bubbling and boiling his face.
?No, your making a huge mistake? screams Quig as he is hurled from the plane. On the way back to the seats in the main section someone notices what has happened. It seemed Quig had some useful stuff on his person and that worries everyone as they drift off to sleep wondering what that smell is?.



Player left on Plane:(9)
StevenRyals
ChurchofHalo
Hippo
Billyman
Dotleo
Amadjin
Manicmonkeyman
Raygyn Bull
Steve Van Halen

No longer on Plane:(5)
Fozza Gump: Zombie.....Lynched on Day One
Happy Axeman: Passenger.....Modkilled on Day Two for rule breaking (PM Quoting)
Yorkshire Blue: Passenger.....Lynched on Day Two
Currieman: Passenger.....Bite on Night Three
TheQuigMaster: Passenger.....Lynched on Day Three

Its now Night Four so get your night choices in ASAP. You have til Thursday 12Pm

[Sir Villain]

Everyone wakes up.

No one has anything to report which is very scared indeed



Player left on Plane:(9)
StevenRyals
ChurchofHalo
Hippo
Billyman
Dotleo
Amadjin
Manicmonkeyman
Raygyn Bull
Steve Van Halen

No longer on Plane:(5)
Fozza Gump: Zombie.....Lynched on Day One
Happy Axeman: Passenger.....Modkilled on Day Two for rule breaking (PM Quoting)
Yorkshire Blue: Passenger.....Lynched on Day Two
Currieman: Passenger.....Bite on Night Three
TheQuigMaster: Passenger.....Lynched on Day Three

Its Day Four and 5 Votes will get a lynch

[hippo]

I posted why i thought quig was evil, and i did because he looked suspicious, but it's always nice to give people the courtesy of defending themselves isn't it? Rather than just bandwagoning them away like a few of you did. I'll admit i was wrong, but it's what i've been doing all game - accusing people to get a reaction. Clearly some people didn't want there to be a reaction. I imagine some people will try and put the responsibility on me, but i'm not taking the responsibility for any of your votes. Like i said, i accuse to provoke a reaction, i'm quite consistent with it. Gives me more idea about the evilness of people. We REALLY need to find somebody evil this time. There's 9 people. The cult can be at a maximum of 4, so we really need to be careful with votes this time. Because one wrong move and a quick zombie bandwagon could be game over.

Anyway, here's my start of the day thoughts.

Stevenryals is looking increasingly suspicious to me. Here's his last post.

4 posts in a row with votes, looks suspicious to me.  however, reading through I notice that after the death of Fozza, hammers 'morning 2' comments mentioned the stinch of zombies.  So I dont think that Fozza had the chance to 'recruit' anyone due to his death, so that means since day 1, there had to be 1 other zombie at least.  As hippo has pointed out, with the lack of night kills, there must have been some recruit attempts going on.  so, there are probably at least 2 zombies out there right now, and I have to aggree that the evidence that hippo has brought out is convincing of one thing, that quig has been a non player, and not really 'trying to route out evil'.    The one quote that convinces me is this one:

remember, this is after a plethora of info had been posted on Fozza, who turned out to be a zombie.  I also believe that this is exactly what it seems to be, a deflection for his partner.

That said, and at the risk of being wrong and looking like a bandwaggoner....  VOTE QUIG
Also remember, that quig has been in my top 3 suspects list as well.. along with Amadjin and SVH. However, I think Churchy has replaced amadjin on the list.

-steven

Right, i've highlighted a few things there that make me very suspicious of him. The first one is him saying how suspicious the bandwagon is, which he then decides to join anyway. It's a tactic designed to distance himself from any blame attached to it. He's made it look like he was apprehensive with the 'at the risk of being wrong' quote; mentioned a few times that it was me who convinced him so giving me the responsibility of the whole thing. He also points out that quig has been a suspect of his throughout the game, true or not, it's again trying to make out like his wasn't a bandwagon vote; that he'd been thinking it through.

It's quite a clever thing, because he's basically done exactly what everyone else did and just voted, but padded it out with bits of my post to make it look like he's offering something new to the case, rather than just bandwagoning.

[hippo]

Completely forgot to mention the no deaths thing. That's a big positive, and well done to whoever pulled a block/protection off. Though it could mean they were busy recruiting so, lets not go overboard on the celebrations.

[stevenryals]

Damn, hippo, no remorse for killing one of our own?  No "WELL F*CK ME, $HIT, We lost a townie"....  Straight into your next lynch?

I'll admit i was wrong, but it's what i've been doing all game

We REALLY need to find somebody evil this time. There's 9 people. The cult can be at a maximum of 4, so we really need to be careful with votes this time. Because one wrong move and a quick zombie bandwagon could be game over.

Funny how you are so concerned with the cult Hippo.  Remember there are TWO groups of evil here. We have only  killed one zombie, then on the morning of day2, Hammer referred to the smell of zombies.  So, you're guess of 4, is probably like, 6.. 4 cult and 2 mafia...  nine total and three innocents left, now the chances of you being evil have increased heavily.  Especially how you just so innocently forgot that there are snakes on board.


Now onto my suspicions?  I'll stick with SVH and Amadjin.  I believe both of them are evil.  as I have stated in the past..  The reason I chose Amadjin, even though he fingered fozza, thats the best reason for the zombies to get him.  If you were a zombie, wouldnt you want the guy who can say "why would I be a zombie, i killed another zombie on day one"  WELL..   Our Friend Amadjin has been recruited by the cult people.  I'm 99.9% sure of it.

VOTE AMADJIN 

There is no evidence that could convince any of you of this fact.  However, you must realize that, from a zombies perspective, he would be the first person to recruit... wouldnt you think?  I think it's almost a sure thing, probably the best best we have at this time.. 

-Steven

[froganomis]

don't you think that would be too obivious of a thing to do? i would think they are a bit more brainy than that,i mean come on since fozza,all we've done is kill our own,whoever the groups of people are,they've played a blinder so far.its now evident the obvious choices and avenues are just not working,and this is just another example,killing me is exactly what they want you to do,theres so few passengers as it is steve,dont try gettin rid of another.

there is far too many lurkers in this game,and im convinced a few of them are evil,one of these has to be raygyn bull,whats exactly has he done in this game?he's hardly posted at all,previously hes posted in every game a lot up until recently,this is suspicious enough for me to get my vote(queue the i was away/workin post shortly)
vote: Raygyn Bull

[hippo]

Damn, hippo, no remorse for killing one of our own?  No "WELL F*CK ME, $HIT, We lost a townie"....  Straight into your next lynch?

Damn, steven, no remorse for finishing off a lynch without letting them speak?

Funny how you are so concerned with the cult Hippo.  Remember there are TWO groups of evil here. We have only  killed one zombie, then on the morning of day2, Hammer referred to the smell of zombies.  So, you're guess of 4, is probably like, 6.. 4 cult and 2 mafia...  nine total and three innocents left, now the chances of you being evil have increased heavily.  Especially how you just so innocently forgot that there are snakes on board.

How does that indicate i forgot snakes? You've quoted me as saying we need to lynch "SOMEONE EVIL", not "a zombie". I've said we have to be careful with votes because, a random vote on someone could be swarmed on by a load of zombies, clinching victory for them, if they did have 4. That's why i mentioned zombies, because the snakes would still have a bit to go for the majority, whereas zombies could be on the brink.

I think your numbers are probably inaccurate. No snakes have died, so they'll have 3 if they're the mafia. And the cult would have started with 2, and one died, so at most they'd have 4, but more than likely 2 or 3. My bet's on 3 townies, 3 snakes, 3 zombies.

WARNING: amadjin posted while i did

[stevenryals]

Actually, after sitting here thinking about this.  Even if I am right, and Amadjin was recruited, it makes absolutely no differenct, because they will just replace him in the night phase.  There are only 3 or 4 people in here we can lynch who can help out cause.  The cult leader and the snakes(2or3).  When I was cult leader in the multi-themes game, if I was killed, everyone I recruited would return to being townies...   Thats probably how this game is going to go as well. 

I find it odd how before the Quigg lynch, there was heavy pressure on Churchy, and since then he has yet to speak up. 

So if its just snake and zombies where are the passenges?

-Churchy
I've brought this up about 1000 times, and i'll do it again.  This reaks of evil..

Don't care anymore, I'm not guilty but everyone has already made up thier mind.

Church said this after 3 votes.. didnt defend, or try to find anything good, but just say screw it....

Vote for me, don't care much either way anymore, from the looks of it the bad guys have nearly all but won.

this sounds like classic 'sob story antics' to me..  Church saw the way Fozza acted, and his LOUD defense brought out such a recourse that he was determined to be evil; thus churches non-chalant attitude towards the game ended his lynch for the time being. 

FOS CHURCHY

[sweeney]

don't you think that would be too obivious of a thing to do? i would think they are a bit more brainy than that,i mean come on since fozza,all we've done is kill our own,whoever the groups of people are,they've played a blinder so far.its now evident the obvious choices and avenues are just not working,and this is just another example,killing me is exactly what they want you to do,theres so few passengers as it is steve,dont try gettin rid of another.

there is far too many lurkers in this game,and im convinced a few of them are evil,one of these has to be raygyn bull,whats exactly has he done in this game?he's hardly posted at all,previously hes posted in every game a lot up until recently,this is suspicious enough for me to get my vote(queue the i was away/workin post shortly)
vote: Raygyn Bull

Have been but will not use that as an excuse. I admit that I have been very quiet in the game compared to every other that I have participated in, but so have a lot of people. I have also found it a lot more difficult to see thru the lies of people as we all become more adept at playing this game and covering who we actually are. Therefore will not just post wild speculation for the sake of it.

You have done yourself no favours in voting for me and given yourself away as either Zombie or Snake. If people had any sense they would've worked what sort of part I have to play in this game.

I didn't vote last round as I couldn't make up my mind who seemed more guilty and didn't want to bandwagon.

This is going to look like a tit for tat vote but who cares. Vote Amadjin

Now unless Steven has voted for Admajin to cover up anything on his part I don't know, but that would be running a very large risk, so that make me think he is innocent.

[ManicMonkeyMan]

right, so yet another innocent dies partly my fault as i think i was second to last to vote, but he made it extremely difficult for himself by the things he said, he made himself look so guilty.

i honestly think out of the 9 people left

4 goodies, 2 zombies and 3 snakes left

my 3 main suspects are raygin, dot leo and church with amadjin coming close behind,  but he has always been a suspect of mine and i'm gonna stick with it, vote dotleo running out of townies, but i think theres enough left to win this.  just think you reak of evil, and have bitten off more than u can chew

[froganomis]

we wont have many townies left if people retaliate for me calling them out...

[hippo]

Vote Count

Billyman (5): Yorkshire Blue, Raygyn Bull, TheQuigMaster, Hippo, Steve Van Halen
Yorkshire Blue (3): Dotleo, ManicMonkeyman, StevenRyals
Raygyn Bull (2): Fozza Gump, Billyman
Fozza Gump (2): Currieman, Amadjin
Hippo (1): Happy Axeman

Not Voting (1): ChurchofHalo


8 Votes in enough to chuck someone of the motherfucking plane

Right, think back to day one when i was on my mission to make people see how suspicious billyman is. This is a vote count taken from the point when it was nearly pushed through, and it makes some pretty interesting reading. It was quite clearly NOT an evil bandwagon: yorkshire blue - innocent, quigmaster - innocent, raygyn - seems innocent, me - innocent, and svh - also seems innocent. So it was evil people, and people that had their own suspicions, that wouldn't get on it, otherwise it would have been finished off.

It got turned around, because of a few people. Fozza's zombieness being obvious, axeman's unwillingness to trust anything i say in a mafia game, billy stressing, and church arguing about it.

He's voted on bandwagons every day. I can't find a post where he's come up with any accusations on his own. And he's been far more low key after day one/two since he's not been being accused. Someone has told him to not draw as much attention to themselves.

vote billyman

Plus, i still don't believe his reveal as some miserable bloke.

[ChurchofHalo]

Looks like we missed again.

Would like to hear from Dotleo and the others playing before I cast myvote.

[stevenryals]

(forgot to unvote amadjin, cause even if he is a zombie, it means nothing really, since he obviously isnt a 'zombie master'.  haven't really thought he's a snake either)

Raygyn Bull (2): Fozza Gump, Billyman

(surely billy is smarter than this )
Hippo,  I do think billy has been MUCH MUCH quiter since he almost got thrown off.  I'd like to see him respond.  Because he has largely been off my radar since day 1 and I dont really know why, maybe his lack of posting and his seemingly anti-climactic reval...  BUT! and it's a big but; we may be down to the last 2 or 3 days now, so like we've already discussed, voting off a townie would be detrimental, and if Billy is a townie, then the cult knows he not one of them.  Only needing 5 to get a lynch, probably 4 of them, all they need is ONE vote from anyone else and theres a bandwaggon.  I will wait, and see, but it's hard to tell, I know they won't all jump on the same bandwaggon, but only a couple.  And, if nobody else votes for billy, then I think that's a tell tell sign that he is or has become evil.  Thats actually confusing a little bit......

If he HAS BECOME evil by way of cult recruitment, then he means nothing to us, as they can just replace him in the night phase.  As I've said before we need the cult leader and the mafia members.  that's only 3 or 4 people we need to get rid of, so the #'s aren't that bad(as long as we can get the cult leader VERY soon)

Dotleo seems to be sitting back a bit more since hippo's attack on him yesterday(game days).  I would like to hear from him to see what he has to say for himself..

I'm going to read through a bit again today to see if I can catch anything..
just want you guys to know, today is the last day of the month and my numbers at work are a little low, and i've GOT to catch them up TODAY, so my time here will be limited..

[dotLeo]

That would explain his lack of posting, I guess.

Things have been pretty busy for me lately which is why I have been a bit quiet recently.  There isn't really much I can say to hippos allegations yesterday, as there is no real substance to them, and just because I have been quiet doesn't make me suspicious necessarily Steve, I find it suspicious myself that you seem to have several reasons cropping up for why you can't contribute at one point or another.

Manic Monkey Man: I've no idea what you are talking about.  I have always been a suspect of you? When, where? I think you are just looking for what you think is an easy bandwagon target, and that your zombie mates (probably Steve and maybe Hippo and the whoever the rest are) will help get rid of me.  By voting for me, it has now upped the chances considerably that I know you are evil, so I am more than happy to put my vote your way.

Vote ManicMoneyMan.


 

[hippo]

I'm inclined to think you're wrong about manic, leo. He was saved on night one by axeman from a snake bite, so that completely rules out one group of evil. And i think it usually happens whereby if one group of evil tried to kill someone from another, they would both end up dead. And that didn't happen on night one. So i'd say he's one of the less good bets about to be evil.

Just been looking at the death list, and no actual roles have been given. Just their alignments. So fozza could actually have been the head zombie, we don't know. So our assumptions on numbers could be way out. It's hard to judge. The only number i think is certain in my head is that there's 3 snakes. Because none have died. Zombies are between 1 and 4.

Bit annoying that billy's being replaced. Because i'm pretty certain that he is a snake. But because there'll be a new player, he's now unlikely to be lynched.

[Sir Villain]

All you people are vampires and your stories are stale

[Steve Van Halen]

Dont see the point in Billy being replaced this late in the game, surely we should throw the muthafucka off the plane?

[froganomis]

who are we kiddin,surely billy is evil?

VOTE: BILLYMAN/REPLACEMENT