Mafia 7: Snakes & Zombies on a Plane Mafia - Tie!

[Sir Villain]

Vote Count

Billyman (2): TheQuigMaster, Yorkshire Blue
Yorkshire Blue (6): Billyman, Currieman, Raygyn Bull, ChurchofHalo, ManicMonkeyman, Amadjin
ManicMonkeyMan (1): Dotleo

Not Voting (3): StevenRyals, Steve Van Halen, Hippo

[hippo]

Right, if you think about this, how likely is it, now that you've seen how quickly that the bandwagon on yorkshire has formed, that he's actually evil? Don't just let the evil people win because you think the day should end.

If we work on the logic that none of you take anything billy says seriously (if none of the stuff he's said is classed as suspicious just because it's him, then he can't be responsible for the bandwagon) then the people who got it going are currie, raygyn and church. Anyone trust any of them to be good? So why are you letting them dictate who gets lynched?

vote church

[Steve Van Halen]

Bloody knew that Axeman wasnt evil. Yorkshire defend thyself for it seems that we are about to make another stupid bandwagon roll to smite thee.

I stand by my original theory that Billyman, Hippo, Manic are not evil but the rest of you i am doubtful of but Im not voting til Im certain and im not certain that Yorkshire is the one to throw off the plane.

[i2i Killer 89]

OK, I haven't been on since 9am this morning so I've missed quite a lot and I think I may have another big post coming but not as big as the last one.

Firstly, I agree with Hippo saying that the bandwagon that has formed on Yorkshire is a little fast and I think that Billy and Amadjin are possible evil people as they have just jumped on it without a proper reason
Manic says this:

right, to move the game along unvotequig vote yorkshireblue  not a big contributer and time to end this day

I'd like to see something a bit better than that as a reason but as Manic was bitten by a snake yesterday I believe that he is innocent.

Amadjin however says this:

might aswell seal the deal,i agree with the 6 people who voted before me,so don't knockin my door if we get this wrong...

That is just a stupid thing to say as it looks really suspicious imo. He says "I agree with everyone and don't look at me if he's innocent" basically.
Really stupid and looks really guilty in my eyes.
Billy, earlier in the day, said this:

billyman hits back
unvote : hippo
vote : yorkshireblue
the hippo bandwagon aint working so im hitting back at yorkshire for voting for me

No reason, just "because he voted for me" and it looks as though he is just hoping that a bandwagon does form (like it has!)

As for Churchy and Raygyn I'm not too sure as they both posted reasons.

Separate from that, YorkshireBlue hasn't done anything to convince me that he's innocent because of his last post:

might aswell finish me off then thats two good people gone everyones jumped on the bandwaggon

Just sounds a bit like Fozza to me. If he was innocent (like Axeman was) he would say (like Axeman did) "I can't believe you are saying that, I am innocent, are you all really thick?" etc.
Instead he just basically says "Meh, kill me then, it's your loss as I'm a townie" which sounds a lot like what Fozza said.

So, even though there is a bandwagon on Yorkshire, I really want to stick with my vote for him because he still looks the most guilty to me but it is still a risk because he may be innocent and is just playing the game differently.
I'm in 2 minds as to whether or not to keep my vote on him. On the 1 hand he could be innocent and the bandwagon has just killed him (even if he was playing the game in a way that made me think he was evil) but on the other hand he could be evil and he doesn't get lynched and he turns out to be evil and we were so close to a lynch.

I'm gonna UNVOTE YORKSHIREBLUE because I really am not 100% sure about YorkshireBlue but then again it was the same with Fozza.

P.S Sorry about another long post

[Quig]

Ok, firstly looks like I was wrong about axeman. Whoops. The bandwagon has formed quickly, that isnt a bad thing. Personally I think it could mean that he is indeed mafia and looks very guilty. But, i think we should all at least wait for him to defend himself before lynching him.

[i2i Killer 89]

That's just the thing though Quig, he doesn't seem bothered that he's getting lynched, just like Fozza.
Whereas Axeman has stated many times that he was innocent.

Infact I'm really thinking about putting my vote back on Yorkshire because of what I just said but I will wait

[froganomis]

i aint half done some stupid things today...much like everyday...lol,but thats not the point,i shouldnt be allowin you to think im evil,cos that would just confuse the issue and we wouldnt get a bad guy,so im rescinding one of those mistakes i made today....

unvote:Yorkshire blue

[yorkshire blue]

billyman hits back

unvote : hippo

vote : yorkshireblue


the hippo bandwagon aint working so im hitting back at yorkshire for voting for me

that isnt really a reason to vote for me i am standing with my vote cos i think he is evil and he was the one that started the band waggon off

heres what i think
evil: billyman raygin
good: currieman manic
the others im sure about even though adjamin changed his vote on me i think he could just be doin that to cover himself up

[froganomis]

no i voted you with no real reason to,and then had a think about it,realised it was a stupid thing to do,so i removed it

[sweeney]

Why on earth do you think I am evil?

If any of you had read between the lines of some of my posts, you would be able to know who I am, therefore, not evil

[hippo]

I have hunches about people, but there's no real point posting them because i have nothing to back them up and it'd just be easy to discard by whoever they are.

Ok, firstly looks like I was wrong about axeman. Whoops. The bandwagon has formed quickly, that isnt a bad thing. Personally I think it could mean that he is indeed mafia and looks very guilty. But, i think we should all at least wait for him to defend himself before lynching him.

That just reads as guilty to me. But maybe i'm not supposed to see the 'whoops' as being sarcastic. The bandwagon forming quickly shows he's probably innocent - because people aren't bothered who they vote for if they're evil, they'll just jump on a vote. As far as i can see, there were no proper reasons that loads of good people would want to vote for yorkshire, other than maybe because they didn't want the day to go on any further. Quig reckons a suspicious bandwagon is good, i don't. That could be suspicious, or it could be him wanting the day to end. I'll guess the first one. And then the 'lets give him time' bit at the end looks like he's trying to make it look as if he's trying to give him a chance, expecting someone to finish it off before he actually gets the chance, and giving him the moral high ground. And really, what did he expect yorkshire could say to stop people voting for him? There's not alot. I dunno, but anyway, i'll stick a vote in.

unvote church
vote quig

[froganomis]

what im interested to know,how svh claims to know happy wasnt evil?theres 3 possibilities

1-he's evil and knows who isnt
2-hes a cop and has investigated him.....or......
3-hes psychic (most unlikely dont ya think..lol)

oh yeah and cardiff city are numero uno in ze championship,paaaaarrrrtttyyyyyyy!!!!!

[hippo]

what im interested to know,how svh claims to know happy wasnt evil?theres 3 possibilities

1-he's evil and knows who isnt
2-hes a cop and has investigated him.....or......
3-hes psychic (most unlikely dont ya think..lol)

oh yeah and cardiff city are numero uno in ze championship,paaaaarrrrtttyyyyyyy!!!!!

Or possibility 4, he thought axeman was probably good, and then read that he was after he was killed for the owd rule break, and used the common expression 'i knew it' in hindsight.

I'd like to know how you "knew" axeman was evil like you claimed? You were clearly wrong and lying, so what were you doing?

i know different

..that was in response to axeman's claim. Granted, i didn't believe it either, but i didn't claim that i knew he was lying like you.

What say you, amadjin?

[froganomis]

i had nothing really to go on,but i was tryin to sway people towards axeman,because personally i thought him to be evil,which i obviously found out to be the wrong thing to do,so yeah i was wrong.But people make mistakes,it happens all the time on here,cos i picked up on things about fozza that seemed to be evil,and i was right to think that,on the flipside i thought i was on to a winner again with axeman,but i was proved wrong obviously....

[Steve Van Halen]

I had a hunch that Axeman wasnt evil and stuck to it and like hippo said in hindsight claimed that I knew he wasnt evil.

Look to previous posts and you will see that I have said that I believed Axeman was innocent before he jumped.





Who needs Cameron Jerome when we've got Chopra?

[dotLeo]

I want to clear one thing up, Ive been over this a million times already, but some of you just cant see it.

If i was a snake and had bitten Manic, how would i know he was saved? the answer can only be I didnt bite him, I saved him by giving him my only antedote.

People should also be looking at posts and asking why was Manic Targeted.
*Note the only person to of voted Manic is Dotleo...

Maybe currie made that long post to throw a curve ball to take the heat from churchy?

You will note that I had very good reason to vote for Manic, a very blatant error that he made which in my eyes is stronger evidence than the story from the two of you about being bitten However, I will accept that it was a genuine mistake but will be keeping my eyes on Manic.  For now though, Unvote Manic.

Why on earth do you think I am evil?

If any of you had read between the lines of some of my posts, you would be able to know who I am, therefore, not evil

.

Read between the lines?!  Sounds like a poor attempt to fob people off - at a quick glance I can't pick anything up, unless you are talking about the post on the previous page.. "*Said in my best Sam Jackson voice" - are you subtly implying you are Jackson and the Snake hunter or something like that!?! 

[stevenryals]

Good GOD!!!!!  #@$*(&($@#)@&%!#)

I got some reading to do....

Shouldn't take but about 4 hours or so.. 

I'll be looking through everytyhing over the course of the workday and posting what I find...

Thanks for not throwing me off the plane while I was out.

-Steven

(oh, i met a LOAD of english down in mexico, from all over, it was really fun.  Met some from southampton, northampton, milton keynes, london, manchester, newcastle, and some random guy who just said, the midlands..)
(also, I learned some more 'english' slang...   such as CHEESE... now that's nasty... 
i'll be back to post something more worthwile after reading all these 7 or 8 pages... 

[stevenryals]

OK,, Happy Axeman got Modkilled.....  interesting....
(OK, Hammer, I find it unusual that you chose the croc hunter for that role before the whole thing went down last week, some kind of psychic vibe coming from you derhammer)

In light of what happy and manic were saying, I'd have to say that manic is definately innocent, I mean if he was bitten by a snake, 99% sure he's a townie.  Even though he had the slipup and said zombie instead of snake...

 hammer said this at the beginning of day 2:

Thats not the smell of mistrust. Thats the smell of a stinking Zombie, but who is it?

so, obviously there are more zombies....   I say we look at who was NOT in contact with fozza on the game, Who was it that NEVER INTERACTED with fozza, and also who did a LOT of interacting with him.  Those tactics to me reak of evil!!!  I hate that too, because thats why we always think Yorkshire is evil, because of his lack of contribution...

Billyman revealed also, but Billy, you're my bud, but I've gotta remind you that you prettymuch reveal in everygame with the same "crap role" whines...  that said, I give you a very slim chance of being evil.  But your voting patterns definately draw the eye, so I'll be looking at you... Very Small FOS Billyman

Yorkshire, once again, you lurk and contribute very little, small posts and whatnot.  To me, the only way to teach you that you need to ACTIVELY CONTRIBUTE more than just one or two posts per day that are only a line or two, is to kick you off.  Because I haven't a clue who you are, I can't say that you have acted innocent, but every single game you are in, you look evil simply because you dont do much.  It really doesnt help us at all, because we all look at you and think, he could be evil. then we think, "well thats just yorkshire blue" ... and thats CRAP.  Start contributing so we can have a remote clue as to who you are, otherwise you just look evil to me. Vote YorkshireBlue
Now, if you start to contribute, and do a little reading up, and try to find the evil ones, I will retract it.  It's just that, my gosh, what if you are evil, and we are all just saying to ourselves "oh, thats just how yorkshirebllue plays the game"...  SO... get in here and help out!!!!!!

Raygin Bull, I think your innocent, barre none.  I've picked through your posts, and couldnt find much of anything even notable..

Dotleo, it's nice to see you actually contributing, but here's the thing.  You've named prettymuch everybody and said they are suspicious.  Lets get more specific as to who and why, otherwise, it just kinda looks like you're waiting around with suspicions on everyone you can jump on a bandwagon when it forms.  and that's tell tell signs of mafia!!  FOS Dotleo

Amadjin:  happyman said this before he was hurled off the plane...

Theres always something about Amadjin i dont trust, I get the feeling he would like to be a snake...

Not that this is enough to implicate you, but can you name the last time Axeman was wrong about a 'gut feeling'.   
I think that you have a high probability of being evil!!!!!  usually you post quite a bit, and longer posts, and really 'stabbing' at people!!! and you're not really doing that.  !!  FOS Amadjin

Someone who has my attention right now, and heavily, and that is STEVE VAN HALEN... not much coming from this cat, so not much to base information on... but... we will see
Currieman: innocent
Church: seems a bit dodgy
Quig: also seems a bit dodgy..
Hippo: i'm undecided on him, I guess 50/50??
-steven

[stevenryals]

(SORRY THAT WAS SO LONG, I TYPED IT OVER THE LAST HOUR OR SO, ON AND OFF.. AND DIDNT REALIZE.  )

[i2i Killer 89]

I want to hear from YorkshireBlue!

I do think that he's guilty because of everything he's said (look at the huge post I made a bit further back) but I took away my vote because I wanted to hear what he had to say for himself.

If he doesn't post soon it says to me that he really is guilty as he has no way to defend himself so just to up the ante on him I'm gonna Vote YorkshireBlue. Hopefully this will bring him out of hiding!