Steven's Small Sided Mafia Game: DRAW

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Time Day two started January 28, 2011, 01:49:03 PM

time i posted my vote January 31, 2011 10:15:29 PM »

time afro posted a reply January 31, 2011  11:28:09 PM »

after not appearing for over three days it took just over an hour for you to post after receiving a vote. Some might find that suspicious 

unvote Afro as the vote had the desired effect. But don't go missing again or i'll just vote you again. With so few players we all need to be active.


Afro why were you told who the mayor was and what benifit if any does that give you ? Are you hinting at a masonic link ?

Wes for someone who was quite vocal in day one you have gone quiet in day 2 ? Anything to add ?

[stevenryals]

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Vote Count

Mikeblue 1  (miasg)
MIASG 1  (afroboy
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[*Afroboy*]

Miasg I dont believe that you have changed in the two days, I just believe that how you have been over the two days has been suspicious. I may have made a mistake on the link to previous games, however it is still a relevant point that you have been very selective with your words. Could be nothing, could be something. My vote still stays for now.

Believe it or not, I was looking at the page when you made your comment and was reading through the days events. I apologise for the three day absence, but the time I came back was a coincidence. I am not looking for a quick lynch, I just believe that I should show what I think and get the game moving, i admit a little hypocritical seen as I havent been on for three days, but somebody has to make the first couple of votes, and if I have a suspicion then I don't plan to just keep it to myself.

As for how I know the previous mayor, it wasn't any powers, I was just given the information by Stevenryals at night, kind of like laser said, only I got told who, but no indication of good/bad or powers.

[laserblue]

wes ... any thoughts?

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

well not much to comment on, one post of any value.

So you weren't told when you joined the game who the mayor was ? Steve advised you during the night phase ?

Laser are you expecting to continue being mayor or do you have to nominate a successor when we reach the night phase ?

[MIASG]

As for how I know the previous mayor, it wasn't any powers, I was just given the information by Stevenryals at night, kind of like laser said, only I got told who, but no indication of good/bad or powers.

so my understanding of this is that you have no powers/role but were just told at night time who the previous mayor was.   Is this right?  if so how the fuck did you get so lucky   Afro I still can't see why you are voting for me .. but that's your choice - I won't be changing.

A few others I'm sure were suss of Mikeblue - what are people thoughts on him?   I think I'm onto something but it appears to be only me on Day 2.   Again maybe the people with the info know something .. but I don't ..

If the first mayor is outed - could they please let us know if they had actions on day 1 ?  I'm thinking TCH is right about the CCTV camera's means no night kills.   If it is true then there should be more then 1 bad guy otherwise it could all be over first lynch .. might be 1 mafia .. 1 cult (which may not be formed yet). 

[laserblue]

Laser are you expecting to continue being mayor or do you have to nominate a successor when we reach the night phase ?

no idea.......... i would like to stay mayor but I would also like to stay alive to.  where's wes got to?

[Mikeblue]

well not much to comment on, one post of any value.

So you weren't told when you joined the game who the mayor was ? Steve advised you during the night phase ?

Laser are you expecting to continue being mayor or do you have to nominate a successor when we reach the night phase ?

This is very sus indeed! This  could be seen as you wanting to know who to go after?

[Mikeblue]

so my understanding of this is that you have no powers/role but were just told at night time who the previous mayor was.   Is this right?  if so how the fuck did you get so lucky   Afro I still can't see why you are voting for me .. but that's your choice - I won't be changing.

A few others I'm sure were suss of Mikeblue - what are people thoughts on him?   I think I'm onto something but it appears to be only me on Day 2.   Again maybe the people with the info know something .. but I don't ..

If the first mayor is outed - could they please let us know if they had actions on day 1 ?  I'm thinking TCH is right about the CCTV camera's means no night kills.   If it is true then there should be more then 1 bad guy otherwise it could all be over first lynch .. might be 1 mafia .. 1 cult (which may not be formed yet). 

Why are you trying to out everyone so early? Why should the previous mayor come forward? The previous mayor could have been evil for all we know and you assuming he wasnt could lead me to believe you knew he wasn't as you know who is who.......

[Mikeblue]

Some very sus play going on here all around. Could be people posting just without thinking too but for me MIASG is stil very suss in my opinion. Also strange that he continues to go on about me and very little on anyone else and seems like he is always asking for backup from everyone to his theories. What exactly have I done to come across so evil? Is it tit for tat cause I am onto you?

[laserblue]

why do you find mike so sus miasg?

at the moment looking at it from the outside your recent posts have looked more suspect than his?

still no wes?

[wesmancity]

Hello 

going to read through later on today and post tomorrow, been with out an internet connection for 2 days!!!! arghhhh

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

This is very sus indeed! This  could be seen as you wanting to know who to go after?

i don't find my comments evil at all, isn't the whole point of the game to ask questions. I didn't ask for them to name anyone.

It seems a logical question as the first mayor was only in charge one day.

I named you and afro as most suss a couple of days ago especially with you voting for Laser and then calling him evil mayor laser. You then accuse me of trying to keep low when others have said i didn't and being in a vote off with laser is not what i would call lying low. You don't seem to come on here trying to find out information, you just go that's suss trying to deflect away from yourself

Why did you vote for laser ? you were convinced he was evil on day one ? If you were convinced then him being mayor shouldn't matter to you and you would have voted again. What has changed ?

We have a friday deadline, and not many votes cast so time to make some decisions. I have i think narrowed my vote today down to two people.

I'll re read some stuff and post a vote today. That gives friday for them to convince me otherwise.

[MIASG]

Why are you trying to out everyone so early? Why should the previous mayor come forward? The previous mayor could have been evil for all we know and you assuming he wasnt could lead me to believe you knew he wasn't as you know who is who.......

I said IF in big bold letter ... I'm not trying to out anyone (unless you want to come out of the closet) but from my point of view there are 5 other people I know nothing about and other people seem to be getting random advice about ... not of which is being shared.  as with everything written you can either believe or disbelieve any info passed on .. all I asked is if the previous mayor was "outed",  not come out and tell me now, could they give me SOME FUCKING INFORMATION THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE ... also I didn't get to vote in the vote playoff ..and neither did Wes .. doesn't mean we are exempt from being evil/mafia but it makes me think if I was evil I would have voted for sure to get to night phase asap.

As to why I think he's suss ... well .. Wes comes out and claims mike could be good and mike then has a go at wes ...

Sorry peeps had a meeting on Tues and had to go over to Leeds Weds and Thurs at last minute otherwise i would have informed you all. I'm back now just read through and Wes is looking very dodgy indeed.
I out the 2-2-1 thing out there to see who would agree with it cause I no way thought that would be how the roles were.
Wes is looking very sus I have to admit so early and I think I am confident to VOTE WES

maybe you put that idea out because you KNEW you were ony mafia.  Mike on day 1 also seemed very riled up and wanted the vote.   Changed vote to laser as laser was thinking of voting for Afro - he didn't actually vote for afro but somehow that made him look evil in mikes eyes.  Then you have a go at me for starting a bandwagon of 1 ..  That's my opinion ... if I look at the other players ..
laser - seems to be town oriented but nothing else to go on.   day 1 vote winner.  still deciding if he was joking or not about exploding his head at any time.
afro - benefit of the doubt being so late .. now claims to know info of previous mayor .. also seems up for the vote though rather then figuring people out.
tch - not much to go on either but nothing major against - was leading day 1 vote count with laser though
wes - very attacking right off the bat on day 1 but seemed to me like he's playing more town then evil.  Very quiet on day 2 though .. no internet for 2 days though ..

so after all that mike to me appears to be the least town oriented player at the moment .. he's done nothing to change my mind on day 2 .. hence the vote.  

any more information I can share you all?   

[laserblue]

sorry miasg  ... i did want you topersuade me your town .. but there are to many things staking up against you....

you have concentrated on mike to much .... that could be a mafia ploy ... if you don't get involved with anyone else don't give your buddies away...

not voting at the end of day phase ... if you where mafia, you would know I would have been town, why cast suspicion on yourself when others where already voting me.

the information you asked of me/wes  could be used to narrow down mafia target to a power role

Skim reading/staying under the radar in first day?

Vote Miasg

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

well i had this all typed up and laser has added a post, while i've typed this. Laser i have mentioned below you were suss on Mike in Day one, has that changed or do you now feel that miasg is more of a suspect now ?

ok, my main two suspects to receive my vote are Mike and Miasg. Both currently have one vote so it looks like i am about to tip the scales in one direction.

With Miasg i have to temper my natural instinct to always think he is evil, his previous mafia record and working with him does that !! I agree with afro that his posting has been selective for him and miasg has admitted himself that he had an easy run on day one.

but from my point of view there are 5 other people I know nothing about and other people seem to be getting random advice about ... not of which is being shared.  

this is not quite true as we know that laser is the current mayor and afro has claimed knowledge of the first mayor. Both seem to claim that the info they have been given does not help in determining good or evil so maybe the info is not as important as it seems or they would have voted earlier.

With Mike, he has voted for Wes and Laser on day one and was convinced about both, he seemed really keen to get a quick lynch and get to the night phaze.

Some very sus play going on here all around. Could be people posting just without thinking too but for me MIASG is stil very suss in my opinion. Also strange that he continues to go on about me and very little on anyone else and seems like he is always asking for backup from everyone to his theories. What exactly have I done to come across so evil? Is it tit for tat cause I am onto you?

Laser posted that before it came down to the two of us that he was thinking or changing his vote to Mike, i was also having similar thoughts on day one, if Wes had not voted for me i would have most likely voted for Mike on day one.  Day two Mike has really done nothing to change my mind and had a go at my comment when other people have been asking similar questions, the more questions we ask the more chance there is for the mafia to slip up. So it's things like that Mike that make you seem evil.

so at the moment i find Mike more suspicious so i will vote Mike


Miasg is still on the radar so unless anyone has any evidence on any of the other players my vote will stick with Mike or change to miasg if someone can convince me he is more likely mafia than Mike.

[MIASG]

this is not quite true as we know that laser is the current mayor and afro has claimed knowledge of the first mayor. Both seem to claim that the info they have been given does not help in determining good or evil so maybe the info is not as important as it seems or they would have voted earlier.

what I'm saying is I don't have any other info ..
I've given my reasons for votes .. and what I think of everyone.  I have stated that I'm normal vanilla flavoured townie with no knowledge .. it's up to you to believe me or not.   I have no idea if any of you have info on me .. as stated I doubt it as there no other info.   Which was one of the reasons I asked laser which players did he recieve info on .. understanding as I've said before information is power .. at the moment I have only the power to vote who I think is evil .. nothing more nothing less. 

Laser I think I've questioned everyone else to some degree .. I just haven't FOS'd or Voted for everyone.  I can see your logic but that logic is only right if I'm evil.   It's totally flawed if I'm town.  I haven't a firm enough reason to vote for someone else as yet.   Everyone is pretty much playing and contributing .. some more then others.. some more on day 1 then day 2.   I still think my only crime so far has been that I didn't get pressure put on me on day 1 (was I under the radar?  I posted often enough and questioned things) and that I'm trying to gather some info.  At this stage it's 2 votes all I think .. your vote could just be on me now to put "pressure on" but if Wes votes for me then i'm gone .. and town is minus 1 as mike won't vote for himself.   If wes decides to vote mike then we effectivly have another draw... or if he votes someone else entirely then it's possibly 3-2-1 .. and if that's the case I have 2 choices .. jump votes to save myself or die.  same with mike.

[stevenryals]

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Vote Count

Mikeblue 2  (miasg, TCH)
MIASG 2  (afroboy, laserblue)
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Still to vote:  Mikeblue, Wesmancity

[*Afroboy*]

Miasg, you keep saying that you need information to work on for making your mind up, but no one has been killed yet. The only thing to go off is the posts, and you have had the same posts to read as everyone else yet they dont seem desperate for information which is very much inconclusive.

I'd like to see wes's post from his read up which seems to be taking a while. I am also very surprised mikeblue hasnt voted seen as he is under such pressure.

[MIASG]

yes and I have made my decisions based on that ... you have said you know who at least 1 other player is .. that's better then the info I have ... why can't you see that?  I'm also not the only person to have asked for information on what others may or may not know.   I could just sit back and not ask but why would I do that?  Put it this way .. if you came out and told me Mike was the first mayor .. I then have to weigh up a) is your info correct b) do I believe it c) do I give mike benefit of doubt that mayor was prob town d) does that mean he still may be town etc etc
You may already know this .. I don't know who it is.   You can make some judgement on people that will differ to me because really we DON'T have the same information to go off.   That is why I haven't targeted laser at all.   I'm working on the assumption he is town and he might be waiting for people to post something that contradicts information he has on them .. he could not be town - its a risk in my assumptions.   Unfortunately for me the person he currently has voted for is me ... and I would hazard a guess and say it's not based on information received from the Mod because I can't see how there is any.  I've made a decision to vote mike and he hasn't changed my opinion - plus now it's 2 votes all so why would I.