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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #540 on: March 05, 2009, 01:01:37 PM »
Vote Hippo...  cult leader


Cult's hard to detect really, until we find one of them, because they'll just look currently like townies trying to hunt the mafia.

suggests you know that you've been able to recruit and the group is more than one.   

you've been casually mentioning the cult throughout the game, but it never hit me.. 

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #541 on: March 05, 2009, 01:02:05 PM »
oh, thanks hammer for the anti-dementor protection thing....

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #542 on: March 05, 2009, 01:14:57 PM »
why would you protect steveryals after he claimed to be the doctor and would be protecting himself?
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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #543 on: March 05, 2009, 01:33:26 PM »
why would you protect steveryals after he claimed to be the doctor and would be protecting himself?

obviously SVH..  the doctor protects against attacks, he can protect against recruitment... 

and may actually have been recruited in the last night phase considering this major change in game play..

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #544 on: March 05, 2009, 01:44:16 PM »
who's to say you weren't recruited on night 1  Mr Ryals ? in the past if you kill the cult leader the cult dies too .. hopefully that's the case in this game .. cult at this stage is potentially the bigger threat in the long term .. UNVOTE BBM (in the pocket as you say) and VOTE HIPPO i'm interested in seeing where this takes us ..

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #545 on: March 05, 2009, 02:29:42 PM »
all i can say is you bastards!!
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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #546 on: March 05, 2009, 02:45:48 PM »
Don't have time to post much...but my thoughts are at the moment...

1) Ahh...Wes...sorry about that lynch....I was sick and one minute looks as if BBM is a goner and next thing I know...the lynch has happened and you were gone...although I have to say...I wasn't convinced you were town...so might not have been much help..lol!

2) Sir Hammer...well I think you've put forth a bold claim...and unless someone counters...it will be hard not to believe you, and the choice you made in protecting Steven seems to have been sucessful. I was leaning toward believing steven simply because he's been so involved and passionate about surviving this game...figured he had to be something "good"..lol!

3) No kills by Mafia...and neither BBM or Yorkshire Blue posting...not to mention...the deadlines have been met EXACTLY...meaning.. .if there was an active move in the game...and it was sent to TCH...he'd have restarted the game early....been done before...however, the fact we are waiting the full time I think...someone can verify that...but we did first night which makes me think there may be some merit that there are no mafia hits because no message was sent. I have no clue...but the coincidents that we have two players not posting....and no mafia kills...is well hard to dismiss.

4) Hippo....ahhhh...yo u are a slick player! Even when evil you do a good job at pretending to be protown. I noticed you went at mikeblue...but like I mentioned before you were the last to place an actual vote for him. I think in an effort to ride the bandwagon. I think you should respond quickly....waiting too long will only make me more suspicious.

5) BBM...I think now is the time to post....if you are town...which I lean toward doubting seriously...you'd better get something in of worth.

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #547 on: March 05, 2009, 04:01:47 PM »
lets look at WHY there are no mafia kills yet..  obviously the possibility of BBM or Yorkshireblue being the godfather and not sending in kills... you'd think that'd be enough to get them online at least..  maybe not..  the other posibility is that the mafia either found a bulletproof townie or called my bluff to see if i was lying..  either way, we're on day 3 and only have 2 dead so far, one maf and one town..  I think we're going very well to be honest..  We have a lot to go on and haven't lost too many town..

I think we are all pretty sure of BBM, but the expression "by the pocket" is gaining speed lol...  so, lets let him sit for a while..


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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #548 on: March 05, 2009, 04:52:05 PM »
its unlike hippo to be so silent especially when he's got a couple votes on his ballot.. 

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #549 on: March 05, 2009, 05:02:35 PM »
lets look at WHY there are no mafia kills yet..  obviously the possibility of BBM or Yorkshireblue being the godfather and not sending in kills... you'd think that'd be enough to get them online at least..  maybe not..  the other posibility is that the mafia either found a bulletproof townie or called my bluff to see if i was lying..  either way, we're on day 3 and only have 2 dead so far, one maf and one town..  I think we're going very well to be honest..  We have a lot to go on and haven't lost too many town..
I think we are all pretty sure of BBM, but the expression "by the pocket" is gaining speed lol...  so, lets let him sit for a while..


What does "by the pocket mean?" & if your sure bbm is evil why are you not voting him?

anyway I wish I'd kept my vote on him now

I can't see the mafia targeting you steve after the role claim & if this is really a random game then there is a chance of the godfather is inactive... BBm & yorkshire?

can villan please explain why he has come out & revealed his role it looks like suicide because the doctor said he was going to protect himself ?

My Idea would be to put some pressure on yorkshire or if he does not come on at all replace him(if we can find somebody?) like I said we need as many to be contributing as poss.

vote yorkshire

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #550 on: March 05, 2009, 05:34:22 PM »
oh, thanks hammer for the anti-dementor protection thing....

sorry... what?


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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #551 on: March 05, 2009, 05:50:17 PM »
sorry... what?

you're skimming..


i didnt vote himi because if he's inactive and misses the deadline, and turns out to be the godfather..  then it's better to leave him be, instead of lynching him and then passing the baton to someone who will be here to send out the kill order..  we've got a lazy godfather possibly, so lets let him be lazy... 


read hammers claim again and you'll understand that comment..

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #552 on: March 05, 2009, 05:58:57 PM »
you're skimming..


i didnt vote himi because if he's inactive and misses the deadline, and turns out to be the godfather..  then it's better to leave him be, instead of lynching him and then passing the baton to someone who will be here to send out the kill order..  we've got a lazy godfather possibly, so lets let him be lazy... 


read hammers claim again and you'll understand that comment..

sorry yes

It's an Idea...... if the godfather is an inactive player then getting rid of them would not be a good idea..... but are we talking about bbm or yorks or maybe both?

maybe I should unvote yorks then?

I dunno
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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #553 on: March 05, 2009, 06:01:38 PM »
both, but looking back at the mikeblue farce..  bbm is who i think is more likely.. 

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #554 on: March 05, 2009, 06:33:00 PM »
1. I think there are gonna be some people that voted for Wes that are evil. It did seem to take speed quite quickly however he didn't really put forward that much of a case for being good. Still think it was all a bit hasty lynching Wes when BBM was so much more blatant.

2. Vote BBM. Same reasons as yesterday. Mike was trying to kill one of his own. I don't like this whole pocket thing either. Sure he may be the godfather and that's why there have been no kills at night but I don't think that's what's happening as he'd surely be more active than he has been if he was Godfather even if he didn't realise exactly how important that role is. Same with Yorkshire, no way is he Godfather because he would've been trying to interact much  more to look normal rather than raising suspicion like he is doing.

3. Where did this whole "Lets lynch Hippo" bandwagon come from? Far to quick in my eyes. Saying "Until we find one of them" isn't exactly a huge thing to pick up on. If he'd said "Cult's hard to detect unless we found him" then it'd look a bit odd as well. If the cult leader tried recruiting mafia he'd die (or atleast that's how it worked in my game) and if Hammer did protect someone then fair enough but I don't think what Hippo said was a big thing at all so not sure where you're coming from there Steve and MiasG, your vote is just so blatant that I don't think you could be mafia because it's so obvious. You want to "see where it takes us". You didn't even say that you agreed with Steve, you just came out with that lol.

4. Not sure what to make of this from Hammer. Why claim now? It's not as if we're really under threat considering we have killed 1 mafia, know of 1 mafia (BBM) and we've only lost 1 townie. Why come out with it now? Again, probably too blatant to be lying.

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #555 on: March 05, 2009, 06:46:25 PM »
I'm right currieman..  i'm right..  you say it's not enough for a vote..  I say it is..  he's mentioned the cult plenty of times through the game in passing..  and i just get a feeling..  hippo is the cult leader..  el dementor.. 

vote bbm if you wish, we can lynch him, get a mafia and then hand godfathership off to someone more involved and they will start the killing..  brilliant..  even if we're wrong. what's he hurting, we can always go back tomororw or the next day or the next and get him when we're at a loss and think he's the only one left..  but why rush it currieman?

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #556 on: March 05, 2009, 09:22:30 PM »
I cannot believe that i've got votes based on this. But if you want, i'll answer all of your queries and accusations. I haven't been quiet, i've been out.

Re: stevenryals' original accusation

suggests you know that you've been able to recruit and the group is more than one.   

I wasn't saying that at all. What i was saying was, it's harder to find a cult (and indeed, a serial killer) than the mafia, because unlike the mafia, both cult and serial killer would be trying to do exactly the same as a townie during the day. Once you've found one, then you can look for links or defenses, but until then, it's difficult.

However, yes, as it's day three and no cult person has died, i think it's fair enough to assume that if they exist (and in light of what Hammer said AFTER my post, there is one), they'd have more than one person. Why? How many would you guess? If i'd expressed some kind of actual knowledge then fair enough, but what i assumed is the same thing that everyone should - if it's day three, and a cult member hasn't turned up dead, then there either isn't one, or they've managed to recruit at least one other person.

you've been casually mentioning the cult throughout the game, but it never hit me.. 

Really? I'm now going to quote to you everytime i've mentioned the possibility of a cult in this game. 

Although i'm thinking if there's a cult, you might be in it by tomorrow now, so you're not entirely innocent in my mind.
I think it'd be unlikely that there's a serial killer as well as the mafia, given the way this game's gone, but potentially a cult. Cult's hard to detect really, until we find one of them, because they'll just look currently like townies trying to hunt the mafia.

So TWICE. That's "plenty of times" is it? And the second quote is actually the one you voted for me on.

And your logic doesn't even make sense. The idea of being in a cult, would be to keep the whole thing under the radar, as you expand, not suggest it's a possibility and get people to think about and look for it.

Re: things other people have said in response to the accusation

who's to say you weren't recruited on night 1  Mr Ryals ? in the past if you kill the cult leader the cult dies too .. hopefully that's the case in this game .. cult at this stage is potentially the bigger threat in the long term .. UNVOTE BBM (in the pocket as you say) and VOTE HIPPO i'm interested in seeing where this takes us ..

Interesting. No content added, no agreement, but you vote for me anyway. Quite eager to vote for me for any old nonsense reason that steven throws up aren't you? You also did so on day one, when he accused me of something similarly crap.

4) Hippo....ahhhh...yo u are a slick player! Even when evil you do a good job at pretending to be protown. I noticed you went at mikeblue...but like I mentioned before you were the last to place an actual vote for him. I think in an effort to ride the bandwagon. I think you should respond quickly....waiting too long will only make me more suspicious.

You've mentioned this before, i told you what actually happened, you acknowledged what i said was true, but now you're saying it again. Why? I accused him early, i voted as a result of that. I removed it briefly in order to vote TP when i thought he was trying to ruin the game, then put it back afterwards. There it remained until Mike claimed, i said it looked crap, but i'd give him time to give us a name to back up his story, he didn't, so i reapplied it. People who are trying to "ride the bandwagon" don't argue with the person all day, vote for them 3 times, and effectively force the claim (along with ryals) that sealed his fate.

Re: this whole thing suggesting Yorkie or BBM is godfather

This wouldn't explain why there were no kills. Firstly, BBM has been active on the site, as MIASG pointed out. So if he is, and he may be, then a kill would have been ordered. And if YB was, then he'd definitely have been replaced by now, guaranteed - the mafia wouldn't have stopped complaining and sending PMs to TCH in order to make it happen. Because it wouldn't be fair would it? Serial killer potentially, vigilante potentially, but not mafia. Because other people would be effected by it.

You've got to assume that there's been no deaths due to either protections, roleblocker, or bulletproofness. As Ryals has claimed doctor who protects himself, and he gets targeted every first night, that's the first one pretty much explained. It's hardly beyond the realms of possibility that they hit someone who couldn't die for whatever reason the next night is it? They may have even tried to call Ryals' bluff, as i said earlier. It's definitely more likely than it being YB for the reasons i mentioned in the previous paragraph.

Re: leaving BBM "over the pocket"

This is utter nonsense. How can you possibly know what damage he can do? Wasn't there a game, which TCH modded, where the entire mafia gained terrorist capabilities on day four? How do we know he doesn't have the same? Or similar. Or some kind of investigative role designed to find the cop/doctor/power roles? Or whatever. He might be anything. You're assuming things that it's ridiculous to assume. He could be unbelievabley powerful and dangerous for all we know.

Re: Hammer claiming Potter

Inclined to believe, because obviously it's impossible to claim that without being it, because he'd be outed straight away. Most people've probably seen it now, so he's pretty likely to be telling the truth. But like Currie said, seems a very odd time to claim? Why did you? I don't understand.

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #557 on: March 05, 2009, 10:04:44 PM »
Hippo I'll tell you like I told Currieman...   I'm right... 


Thought you'd know better..   a claim that you're the cult leader with no evidence whatsoever.. and a lazy vote from MIASG...  and it's brought you to a 98 line 1,067 word post (thank you MS Word for stats) in your defense..  so it seems there's something to defend there eh hippo? 

you seem quite hasty in a long day to lynch up BBM.  You're a good player, i dont think i've ever seen you vote so early in the day.  You're usually very calculated and wait for the proper time to vote.  You've jumped a bit early, which is what originally tipped me off that something was different.. that's when cult leader hit me..  and it's certainly hit a nerve with you..

this post from you is the same as a mikeblue post where he goes completely insane..  you're just more in control of you e-self than mikeblue, which makes you end up posting unusually long posts so you feel like you've covered all your basis.

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #558 on: March 05, 2009, 10:07:36 PM »
The vote count so far

Yorkshire Blue has 3 Votes
BBM              has 2 Votes
Hippo            has 2 Votes

It takes 8 votes to cause a lynch

Players to vote Axe, Currie, FBN, Hippo, Laser, Miasg and Steven

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Re: Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game thread
« Reply #559 on: March 05, 2009, 10:23:15 PM »
I'm not soo sure about Hippo or Yorkshireblue but im keeping my vote for yesterday


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