Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game *Mafia Win*

[stevenryals]

HAHAHA!!!  Mafia suck!!  couldnt even kill us whilst we were sleeping..

YOU OBVIOUSLY TRIED TO KILL ME!! HAHAHAHA!!  YOU BIG BUNCH OF C***S!!!  YOU JUST CANT LET ME MAKE IT THROUGH CAN YOU..  WELL I'LL AHVE YOU KNOW YOU BETTER WORK ON LYNCHING ME BECAUSE YOU WON'T KILL ME IN THE NIGHT PHASE!!!!      I am Albus Dumbledore and I'm the doctor, I have the power to protect anyone I wish during the nightphase, and as my role doesn't state to the otherwise...  I shall be protecting myself, because i'm a stingy twat thats not made it to the end but once!! 

the EVIL list:

for me it's got to be one of these:

BBM  because I think mike was trying the 'sacrifice one of his own' tactic

Mophead (TP) he'll have TP's role, and I think TP was quite sus, and even though Moppy's not gotten involved, i'm pretty sure that he'll turn out to be evil..


VOTE MOPHEAD

[stevenryals]

Let me bold that, sorry:    VOTE MOPHEAD  to get things started..

[Steve Van Halen]

very bold statement of yours there steve 

so your game plan is to protect yourself all the way through the game, every night? In that case we best make sure that we lynch correctly as im sure the town can still lose if they outnumbered on the last day.

Why are you sure Mophead is evil yet again? that poor boy will always be evil in this game in your eyes

[stevenryals]

actually, i'm not on about mophead..  he's dont nothing wrong..  but he has TP's role..  and TP did plenty wrong in my eyes.. 

I figure we have a good shot at winning either way..  I think I can be of greater use here than in the graveyard where I usually am at this point.  I picked up on mike early on and was right.  and I figure I'm probably right about BBM & Mophead as well..

I'm also very wary of Sir Villian, Currieman, Laserblue & Yorkshire Blue at this point.. 

But for now, I think it's a very strong posibility that we're getting mafia with either BBM or Mophead.. doesn't matter to me, I figure they're both evil..

Also a good point to notice, no kills at all means that not only did the mafia fail, but the town failed as well..  so whoever went out to kill someone last night either found a bulletproof townie or me..

Would be quite funny if the town vigilante, serial killer and mafia all went after me in the same night

then we have the cult..  we've been getting the cult on the first day or night..  not this time.. so we should keep an eye out on the cult as well.. 

[stevenryals]

Fk It,  im mafia along with FBN and MIASG. and BlueStars, though unfortunatley MIASG is the godfather. End of game...

disect this post a bit:

Fk It, im mafia

  I believe this bit, it's a very pointed statement, and I'll explain why I believe it below.. 

along with FBN and MIASG. and bluestars,

  FBN and MIASG... but then he uses a period ending his thought. then adds Bluestars,  so.. maybe he just added that on due to the tiny penis bit..  so I think for me Bluestars is in the clear for now, unless she changes my mind ..

Then goes on to to say

unfortunately MIASG is teh godfather

  which for him, outting MIASG as the godfather would have been anything BUT unfortunate..  so this seems like a farce to me as well..  so another that is off the hook for now in my books.. 

which leaves FBN and Trick Pony(mophead) ...  FBN is another of his aussie chronies, but theres nothing to suggest he's actually not mafia.. so he has to remain on the radar .. 

and I believe Trick Pony (mophead) has showed that he knows too much here in my opinion. 

these points to me show that TP had the knowledge of who was NOT mafia by the points made above..  Which for me makes him the next target. 

BBM has only been named by Mikeblue, which i believe was offering him up in a bid to save his own skin.. so to me the best bet will be mophead, who is carrying the virus called "TP's Role"....


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The ONE thing that puzzles me about this statement is:  Why did he NOT name happy axeman?  he was the one who really went to town with the acronyms..  tiny penis and all that.. 
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[wesmancity]

VOTE BBM

Mikeblue was trying to get to the end with this blod statement of putting his team mate in the fireing line and if it paid of then we would all never of voted for mikeblue.

BBM is mafia and what else could we loose if we voted him of anyway??

lets get daytwo over with alreddy and vote bbm off!!

[MIASG]

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The ONE thing that puzzles me about this statement is:  Why did he NOT name happy axeman?  he was the one who really went to town with the acronyms..  tiny penis and all that.. 
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I asked him this after he was replaced - well it was more of a statement "it's funny how Axeman comments twice on you (TP) and comes up with the Tiny Penis thing but you leave him off your list" - I think really it shows more that he was upset at Bluestars and us more then imply's guilt towards Happy.

on another note, those peole he named as mafia don't need to be given a free ride just because of what TP said...  we need to simply forget his posts.. period..  get mophead in and keep going on because the deadline is only a couple days away

I thought you said ignore TP's posts ?? lol 

 .. I'm happy enough to let mophead forge his own identity in the game and not hang him just yet for TP's out bursts - he still posted alot more than some others on day 1 and showed nothing to convince me he's good or evil.

I'm inclined to believe your claim StevenRyals as if your mafia or SK your painting a massive target on your back if you caught out .. and I think a good role claim if you can indeed save your self everynight as we are assured not to lose the doctor if it gets tight at the end - I don't know for sure but I wouldn't be surprised if whoever Harry is he's a bullet proof townie - that would fit the style of the books/movie .. not sure about a cult though.

VOTE BBM

Mikeblue was trying to get to the end with this blod statement of putting his team mate in the fireing line and if it paid of then we would all never of voted for mikeblue.

BBM is mafia and what else could we loose if we voted him of anyway??

lets get daytwo over with alreddy and vote bbm off!!

Wes why the rush?  didn't you get a kill last night?  FOS WESMANCITY

[wesmancity]

I asked him this after he was replaced - well it was more of a statement "it's funny how Axeman comments twice on you (TP) and comes up with the Tiny Penis thing but you leave him off your list" - I think really it shows more that he was upset at Bluestars and us more then imply's guilt towards Happy.
 I thought you said ignore TP's posts ?? lol 

 .. I'm happy enough to let mophead forge his own identity in the game and not hang him just yet for TP's out bursts - he still posted alot more than some others on day 1 and showed nothing to convince me he's good or evil.

I'm inclined to believe your claim StevenRyals as if your mafia or SK your painting a massive target on your back if you caught out .. and I think a good role claim if you can indeed save your self everynight as we are assured not to lose the doctor if it gets tight at the end - I don't know for sure but I wouldn't be surprised if whoever Harry is he's a bullet proof townie - that would fit the style of the books/movie .. not sure about a cult though.
Wes why the rush?  didn't you get a kill last night?  FOS WESMANCITY

lol!, please i voted a mafia member out, when all you was following his words, keep up.

[hippo]

Steven, i believe your claim i think, unless it gets countered. The only other option would be that you're mafia yourself, which i don't think is the case due to you having a character name to claim, and Mike obviously not having a safe one yesterday. Although i'm thinking if there's a cult, you might be in it by tomorrow now, so you're not entirely innocent in my mind.

I dunno about TP/Mophead. And i definitely don't agree with your analysis of TP's rant, other than the point about it being weird he didn't mention Happy Axeman.

How've you ruled out MIASG, but kept FBN in? And ruled out bluestars? None of it really makes sense. If TP was actually mafia, i think he'd have actually named the mafia right there and then, because i genuinely think he was having a proper stress and seeking revenge on those who were mocking his most closely guarded secret. I don't think he was thinking of any cunning masterplan to throw everyone off. Might be wrong, but it wouldn't seem very in keeping with how he usually plays.

I certainly wouldn't be taking Bluestars or MIASG off any radar. They're very much on my radar.

sounds desperate Mike but you are at that stage aren't you .. there are better targets to pick if you are mafia and trying to get a townie or 2 before your off ... therefore I'm inclined to believe you - for now .. your either townie or an evil genius .. VOTE BBM

That post alone is enough to be not ruling him out. "Evil genius"? Did he actually read Mike's claim? Or was he just blindly following? I was willing to give Mike time to explain his claim to check it wasn't as crap as it looked - but at no stage did i think Mike would have to be a genius to have done what he did, if he was evil. It's a ridiculous, ridiculous post. And given that we know Mike was mafia, it's extremely dodgy.

The other people who voted for BBM after what Mike said i.e. people who could be perceived to actually be backing him, are:

MIASG
SVH
Bluestars
Laserblue
Currieman
Amadjin
Mophead

Some of those unvoted when Mike failed to answer any of the questions that people obviously had for a ridiculously weak claim. Some didn't.

I don't think this matters for today though. Like was pointed out yesterday, it makes no sense for BBM not to be mafia considering what Mike was obviously trying. So vote BBM.

[stevenryals]

It's really there Hippo, he ended his thought with FBN & MIASG, then brought in the bit about bluestars & miasg..  there's truth in these posts...

I dont care which one is first, but they've both got to go..  after that I'm not so sure..

[hippo]

disect this post a bit:

If you insist 

FBN and MIASG...

I believe he said these two initially because, as MIASG alluded to on day one, this whole Tiny Penis episode had (rightfully) become a source of ridicule within their workplace. TCH isn't playing, so his rage is directed at them primarily.

but then he uses a period ending his thought. then adds Bluestars,  so.. maybe he just added that on due to the tiny penis bit..  so I think for me Bluestars is in the clear for now, unless she changes my mind ..

Doesn't make sense. Yes he's put a full stop, so if you're of the opinion that he was calculating this post for game related evil, there's something to analyse. However, it's an after thought. If he's angry, and i think it was clear he actually was, and is attempting to use that to then manipulate, it's the anger that comes first, and then the calculated bit that you add as a secondary. So adding Bluestars to that group - a group people had soon written off as innocent bystanders caught up in TP's shenanigans - would be the bit trying to throw people off. Therefore, by your logic, she's the suspicious one in this. He wouldn't add it on if she was a primary source of anger. She'd be in the first bit.

I'm not of the opinion there's anything to analyse in that post personally. I think he chose the people he did because his workmates were mocking him, and although Axeman suggested it initially, it was Bluestars that perpetuated it the most, so that's why she's there. I think he was annoyed at the first two, probably even getting laughed at actually while he posted so they were mentioned first. Then he thought about why it was carrying on, and recalled bluestars mentioning it a couple of times, so added her.

for him, outting MIASG as the godfather would have been anything BUT unfortunate..  so this seems like a farce to me as well..  so another that is off the hook for now in my books.. 

I believe he was just saying it was unfortunate that MIASG was the godfather, because he loathes the thought of MIASG being somehow in charge of him that much.

I think you're over analysing. It's not a bad thing, i'd rather someone over analysed than under analysed. But i'm not convinced Mophead's evil from the stuff you've said. I am convinced BBM will be.

Go back and have a look for connections between TP and Mikeblue, or lack of if there isn't any. That sort of thing's more likely to have relevance i think.

[MIASG]

I think bluestars was added because she doesn't seem to like him much when they play together and I think it goes back a few games when there were masons together and he just went off straight at me .. and got killed ..just a thought .. and yeah doesn't rule out if any of us are mafia or not .. I haven't ruled FBN or Bluestars as mafia.

Hippo I agree that the post certainly wouldn't rule me out but at that stage what other info did we have to go by? I said I would give him the benefit of the doubt - I believe it was early on which also doesn't help my cause if you think I was bandwaggoning.  I called him an evil genius as BBM is the last person we would have expected him to look for and at the time I wanted to put pressure on the erratic BBM .. I see no harm in that.  Can you say you know what someone like YorkshireBlue is ?  BBM is only up really because he's new and doesn't fully know how to participate in the game - but he appears to be getting the hang of it(sort of) and because Mike put him in the spotlight with doubt .. what else has he done to convince people otherwise? Mike's inexperience as mafia probably showed in the end - you can't trust a word he said of course but it doesn't mean BBM is evil one way or the other .. Something in the back of my mind tells me he would have reacted different if he was getting shafted from the same side but that's just my feeling.  I'm just saying I'd rather not vote him off straight away without some more partcipation from eveyone.

lol!, please i voted a mafia member out, when all you was following his words, keep up.

doesn't mean your not evil .. SK maybe ? voting in a hurry and not caring who goes shows that trait ...

[stevenryals]

hippo, to the contrary, it was Bluestars who started the TP bit with Toilet Paper, and axeman who perpetuated it..

I do think BBM is evil, but we can find out more if we get Mophead today because everything TP said will be able to be used in some manner.. dont think mophead is EVER going to make his presence felt in this game because he will post once or twice per week and not make any sense really...  so you will have to rely guessing... just like with YB...

We can lynch BBM, but we need to wait.. we need to let the day develop and get more people involved.. otherwise we'll be clueless tomorrow..

if we lynch mophead, we'll have much more info and we can lynch tomorrow..

[mophead]

Steven your being quite immature. http://STOP VOTING ME EVERY START OF A GAME! but right now im keeping my choice up FOS BBM

[Dickens Cider]

hippo, to the contrary, it was Bluestars who started the TP bit with Toilet Paper, and axeman who perpetuated it..

I do think BBM is evil, but we can find out more if we get Mophead today because everything TP said will be able to be used in some manner.. dont think mophead is EVER going to make his presence felt in this game because he will post once or twice per week and not make any sense really...  so you will have to rely guessing... just like with YB...

We can lynch BBM, but we need to wait.. we need to let the day develop and get more people involved.. otherwise we'll be clueless tomorrow..

if we lynch mophead, we'll have much more info and we can lynch tomorrow..

How will lynching mophead give us any more info at all ?
If he is evil... It will tell us he's evil... that is it... It won't confirm or deny anything that TP said in his little cry session...
If he is good.. again... thats all it will tell us... unless of course if he's part of some kind of group... then we would gain that info...
But the way you have jumped all over TP's rant, and have tried to make it into something plausible is quite suss...
That, along with how certain you are that he is evil, based on that comment alone...
Looks too much like a mafia tactic to jump on an easy target to cull the heard...

I'm not buying it...

It's hard to ignore your claim though... it's always hard to ignore claims...
It's also hard to get past how much you attacked MikeBlue too...

So i'm still indecided on you... You could easily go either way...
If you are good... I think you need to concentrate on the bigger picture and not take so much out of TP's post which we all know was just a weak attempt to try and out people who had "offended" him...
There clearly is no value in his posts...
I'm not saying that the people he named won't be mafia...
I'm just saying you can't base your arguments on that post alone... or even consider it into any of your arguments...

[MIASG]

Steven your being quite immature. http://STOP VOTING ME EVERY START OF A GAME! but right now im keeping my choice up FOS BBM

why FOS - any reason ?

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

the early vote count stands at


BBM           2 Votes
Mophead     1 Vote

Hippo, Steven and Wes have voted

[MIASG]

TCH will be away for a few days so if you vote/unvote please attach the full counts in your posts please so we don't get 4-5 days down the track and have figure it out.

[Steve Van Halen]

all we saw from TP was an angry outburst not related to the game while mophead hasnt had the chance to form his own opinions yet. Im not sure if about your motives for voting for him.

I voted for BBM in the last day for not contributing to the game and we know how long a day will last. Unless we hear from him I will vote for him again, unless I spot someone slipping up

[hippo]

Amadjin
Axeman
Currieman
Hammerbro
Laserblue
Sir Hammer

We need some actual input from these people. All strong players, all not saying or contributing much at all in this game.