Mafia 17 - Harry Potter Game *Mafia Win*

[Mikeblue]

Quite the band wagon really isn't it considering I only had 5 votes before I said I was cop. I'm not actually a cop on my PM but I am allowed to investagate every other night. Thats why I presume someone else has the same actions.

[hippo]

I'm not believing this. None of the way you've played this has indicated any level of truthfulness.

1) I know you've given a reason for why you'd pick BBM to investigate, but i don't buy it. I think you'd investigate me or steve or axeman or hammer. Why? Because we're the hardest to read. 2 games ago, when you had a pre-game investigation, you chose me. I don't think that'd change.

2) I think it was bluestars (one of the few people to initially buy in to the roleclaim) who said something about how the mafia were good at picking out names, so it being pointless to ask for one in this case. I disagree. If you're a character in this game who is able to investigate, then you're a major character. You've already told us you can investigate, so there's no point hiding your name as you're a target anyway. Obviously you could have been given safe names, but i think if that was the case, you'd have used it straight away. I want to hear a name. If you're telling the truth, prove it to us.

At the moment i tend to agree with Wes. I think BBM will be mafia, but you've decided that you sacrificing him, and effectively having a free pass til the end of the game, is more beneficial than keeping someone alive in your group who doesn't look like he's gonna be able to influence the game . Might be wrong, but it looks like this. Especially weird, as others have pointed out, if this is all true, is that you've spent the day focusing on entirely different people, and not even mentioning somebody who you know to be guilty. Makes no sense does it? BBM would have been a fairly easy person to get lynched today. Others have voted and said he's pointless. You didn't even try and contribute to it. Why?

unvote Mikeblue though until he speaks again. He has after all claimed cop, or similar - i don't believe him, but it's been claimed - and therefore, i don't want him off whilst he hasn't had a proper chance to try and prove it. He could yet be an asset that's made a complete shambles of all of this. Doubt it, but he might be.

I am however fairly certain BBM is evil. If Mike's telling the truth, then obviously BBM has to be evil. And if Mike's lying, then it wouldn't make sense as a tactic unless he knew BBM was also evil - because he'd obviously get lynched straight away anyway if BBM was found to be good. And if he was just trynna take someone innocent down with him as his last act, no chance would he have chosen BBM.

[laserblue]

2) I think it was bluestars (one of the few people to initially buy in to the roleclaim) who said something about how the mafia were good at picking out names, so it being pointless to ask for one in this case. I disagree. If you're a character in this game who is able to investigate, then you're a major character. You've already told us you can investigate, so there's no point hiding your name as you're a target anyway. Obviously you could have been given safe names, but i think if that was the case, you'd have used it straight away. I want to hear a name. If you're telling the truth, prove it to us.

There's no point in me going over what peeps have already said ... I think the above quote pretty much sums it up really .....

Mike if give your character & its feesible & not counter claimed then I'll remove my vote, otherwise I don't see the point in removing it just to put it back on.


Where are you Yorks? I'd be interested to hear what you make of mike's claim?
or about anything else in the game?

[laserblue]

my so called 'mafia buddy' Mikeblue, does seem to only point the finger and stand on the defensive when the tides against him and doesnt really seem to fussed who gets voted aslong as its not him. im sorry to say that wes is starting to speek sense.Vote Mikeblue

this was just after Wes accused Mikeblue of being mafia with bbn.

a slip up? or me taking it out of context?

[Blue Blooded Maniac]

Laserblue - wat the fek are u on about? do u even no urself? honestly?

[Dickens Cider]

Just thought I'd add that footy newb & yorkshire are staying very much out of the way.

Not staying out of the way at all... I've said my piece and have voted for Mikeblue...
Since then... have only just caught up on all this claim bullshit...
And to me... Mikes claim just makes him look even more guilty...
For reasons that have already been stated... by numerous people and summed up in stevenryals post below...

but for me mike, your claim is just too dodgy..   
few things jump out at me.
1) pre game action is unusual
2) every other night action is unusual
3) deciding to investigate bbm pregame rather than someone that would be a better choice
4) the vagueness of the claim.. just "im a cop"
5) if you knew bbm was guilty you would have been jumping on any votes thrown his way in order to get him and not reveal your cop-ness

all these points and the sheer fact that Mikeblue, in defending himself earlier in the game, was twisting peoples comments and blatantly lying to try and weasel himself out of the hole he was in... just dont add up to the actions of someone who is good... Too many holes is his arguments and in his defenses...

so my vote stands...
if it turns out that he is what he says he is... then so be it...
those of us who voted for him cant be held accountable for his stupidity in handling the situation as he did...
he's done nothing to help prove hes good... apart from a loose and highly questionable claim...

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

9 votes have now been cast

MikeBlue  has 5 Votes
BBM       has 4 Votes


The people who have voted are Amadjin, BBM, Currieman, FBN, Happy Axeman,  Laser, MikeBlue,SVH and Wes

The deadline is Midnight Monday UK time , it will take 9 votes to get a lynch.

[bluestarsneyes]

Actually I am still on the fence about Mikeblue's claim....my problem with believing it is almost the same reason I'm having a hard time completely not buying as well.

It's random and yet detailed. I don't know what I think.....I'm on the fence over the whole thing....although i did initially think mikeblue was telling the truth....I didn't really consider the pregame action so out of the ordinary but when Wes or Steven mentioned BBM being an odd pick....that one still makes me scratch my head. But mikeblue did say he was new and so he picked him as of course he'd not know his playing style...I sort of can buy that...but seems like something I'd do if I had that role...not mike...lol!

I don't know....I almost think BBM's posting says he's a bit sick of attempting to convince everyone of his position....we have demanded mikeblue to give his name...I think BBM should be having to defend himself as well....if we are going to put pressure on one...we should be equal....it is day one all that we have to go on is very difficult compared to coming days when we have something to go on at least.

[mophead]

my so called 'mafia buddy' Mikeblue, does seem to only point the finger and stand on the defensive when the tides against him and doesnt really seem to fussed who gets voted aslong as its not him. im sorry to say that wes is starting to speek sense.

Vote Mikeblue

Blue Blood you just messed up really bad......or you are setting a trap....probably mess up because ur new here

VOTE BLUE BLOODED MANIAC

[stevenryals]

MOPHEAD IS BACK!!!   LOL ... PMSL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

10 votes have now been cast

BBM        has 5 Votes
MikeBlue  has 5 Votes
 


The people who have voted are Amadjin, BBM, Currieman, FBN, Happy Axeman,  Laser, MikeBlue, Mophead, SVH and Wes

The deadline is Midnight Monday UK time , it will take 9 votes to get a lynch.

[MIASG]

I'm not believing this. None of the way you've played this has indicated any level of truthfulness.

1) I know you've given a reason for why you'd pick BBM to investigate, but i don't buy it. I think you'd investigate me or steve or axeman or hammer. Why? Because we're the hardest to read. 2 games ago, when you had a pre-game investigation, you chose me. I don't think that'd change.

2) I think it was bluestars (one of the few people to initially buy in to the roleclaim) who said something about how the mafia were good at picking out names, so it being pointless to ask for one in this case. I disagree. If you're a character in this game who is able to investigate, then you're a major character. You've already told us you can investigate, so there's no point hiding your name as you're a target anyway. Obviously you could have been given safe names, but i think if that was the case, you'd have used it straight away. I want to hear a name. If you're telling the truth, prove it to us.

At the moment i tend to agree with Wes. I think BBM will be mafia, but you've decided that you sacrificing him, and effectively having a free pass til the end of the game, is more beneficial than keeping someone alive in your group who doesn't look like he's gonna be able to influence the game . Might be wrong, but it looks like this. Especially weird, as others have pointed out, if this is all true, is that you've spent the day focusing on entirely different people, and not even mentioning somebody who you know to be guilty. Makes no sense does it? BBM would have been a fairly easy person to get lynched today. Others have voted and said he's pointless. You didn't even try and contribute to it. Why?

unvote Mikeblue though until he speaks again. He has after all claimed cop, or similar - i don't believe him, but it's been claimed - and therefore, i don't want him off whilst he hasn't had a proper chance to try and prove it. He could yet be an asset that's made a complete shambles of all of this. Doubt it, but he might be.

I am however fairly certain BBM is evil. If Mike's telling the truth, then obviously BBM has to be evil. And if Mike's lying, then it wouldn't make sense as a tactic unless he knew BBM was also evil - because he'd obviously get lynched straight away anyway if BBM was found to be good. And if he was just trynna take someone innocent down with him as his last act, no chance would he have chosen BBM.

  so basically hippo your saying to be sure we need to lynch them both to find out what they really are ?? gee a long winded posts just to say that .. but in essence of course it's true .. if we vote BBM and he is guilty we still don't know if Mike hung him out to dry or is indeed telling the truth - trouble is we won't believe him .. if he does then there is good case he's godfather hoping is underling takes the hint and dies without drama as I doubt he'd hang BBM if he was godfather.

So while it means we'll lynch a townie again on day 1 if mike is telling the truth - but it's the easiest option to suss out if he is lying or not.  I think.  My vote won't change and I can't see what waiting until monday is goingto change steven either.

If mike is evil and does come out and role claim, it would be easier to knock off town if someone counter claims.  Spartacus anyone ?

 

[wesmancity]

Another nail in the coffin mike, carnt believe anyone hasn't picked up on this, Mike after basicly telling everyone to lynch BBM said hes going to be away for the next couple of days, so people dont class him as hiding......

I might not be on for a couple of days. Just letting people know so they can't say I'm hiding again. If BBM does get lynched...........d oc please don't forget about me. Cheers. 

Then as soon as the shit starts to hit the fan hes back on telling us that it is a fecking joke 1 DAY LATER!! why tell people you might not be on MIGHT meens you are hiding and you will only come on if it starts going bad, which you have.......

I can't believe this??? What a fecking joke. Have you not read what I have said??? I have already stated why I investigated BBM.......read the thread!?!?!?! I have had pre game investigations before Steve. You are going to look so guilty when this is through after you have gone for me none stop this game.

Don't flatter yourself peeps thinking I should investigate you lol. Thats what I did.....they are my results make up your own mind. Like I said if you don't believe you don't simple as. I'm giving up trying. Lynch me then lynch BBM then if you want. I wasn't going to get lynched without telling you what I knew.

[stevenryals]

Looked back over a bit last night, and a bit this morning..   

it's the only choice

Vote Mikeblue

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

12 votes have now been cast

MikeBlue   has 7 Votes
BBM         has 5 Votes

 
The people who have voted are Amadjin, BBM, Currieman, FBN, Happy Axeman,  Laser, miasg, MikeBlue, Mophead, StevenR, SVH and Wes

The deadline is Midnight Monday UK time, which is just over 24 hours, it will take 9 votes to get a lynch.

Bluestars, Hammerbro, Hippo, Villian and Yorkshire have not yet voted

[froganomis]

unvote bbm,vote mikeblue

i just dont see how all this evidence against mike now could be outweighed any longer by the claim and bbm's actions and reactions.

one thing i have increasingly noticed how much your contributing to the game wes.a shitload more than normal.why is this? closet potter fan is it?

[hippo]

Well, i'd say by now he's had a reasonable enough chance to speak, and i can't guarantee being on later. His claim looked desperate and false. His actions earlier in the day were bizarre, he's persistently done suspicious things, nothing he's said makes sense, he's shown no consistency to suggest he's not lying, so i'm gonna go with my instinct and vote mikeblue.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

so it finishes on

MikeBlue 9 Votes
BBM       5 Votes

I'll post the death scene shortly

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

'I don't believe you'  Harry says 'but there is one way to find out.'

'Your wrong' Mike says 

'Now Harry, let me do this' Dumbledore interupts 'Imperio' he yells pointing his wand at Mike. Mike sucumbs to the Imperius Curse.

'Now MikeBlue can you please tell us who you really are as we can't wait for the effects of the polyjuice potion to wear off.'

Mike fights the curse but once cast he has to obey, all he can manage is a guttural 'Damn You' before he can fight no longer. He steps forward, bows and exclaims

'I am Lucius Malfoy, a DeathEater and a member of the Mafia Team'

'I knew it' exclaimed many from the assembled group. The march Mike out to the Whomping Willow and with a flick of his wand Dumbledore casts Lucius into it's reach. A branch quickly snaps out grabbing Lucius Malfoy by the neck lynching him.

'One down Harry' Ron says, 'i wonder how many more are around ?'

With that we enter the night phase, the night phase will last 48 hours so we will be back up on  Wednesday at 10:00pm UK time. If you have not pm'd you actions, those that have them by that time you miss out. Those with actions please use them now.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

During the night several of you are woken by crashes and the sounds of fighting in the halls of Hogwarts, the Deatheaters are about.

As the morning comes you all head down to the dining hall and are relieved to find that everyone is accounted for, whatever Lord Voldemort and the Deatheaters were up to last night didn't succeed.

So Day Two starts with the following players

Amadjin
Axeman
BBM
Bluestars
Currieman
FootballNewb
Hammerbro
Hippo
LaserBlue
Miasg
Mophead
Sir Hammer
Stevenryals
SVH
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue

There are 16 of you and when someone has 8 votes it will cause a lynch. Otherwise the deadline for Day Two is on Tuesday at Midnight UK time.

Day Two starts now