Mafia 16 - Mixed Theme - SK Win

[Sir Villain]

These five have not posted yet I think.

Trick Pony
Mikeblue
Wesmancity
Happy Axeman
MasterZulu

Unvote:Yorkshire although I am still not convinced about his defence.

Vote:Mikeblue


Virtually inactive since earlier actions left him as one of the top suspects.

[i2i Killer 89]

Vote Mikeblue.

His actions on the last day were odd, plus he's lurking today and I reckon he's got some sort of night action as well be it good or bad, dunno yet

[Steve Van Halen]

Yb's defence against a growing lynch mob is pretty pathetic, perhaps hes not trying to go into too much depth to avoid looking too defensive and perhaps a little nonchalant?

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

well i'm keeping my vote with Yorkshire at the moment, as SVH says not the best defence in the world and the quotes in miasg's post from Yorkshire are quite damming.

[MIASG]

it's been the weekend so I don't expect anything from Mikeblue after his tirade earlier ..

Sir Villian you forgot to mention stevenryals  and wes has at least posted and voted today
Mike and Wes went into exile after some heaving pounding on day 1 .....  HA and MZ are as usual quiet .. TP I expect will post today if he turns up to work,
Currieman I was suss on your last vote on Day 1 and a little on your vote for mikeblue for what appears little reasoning but at least you did say in that last post he was your suspect for day 2 - benefit of the doubt right now

[Happy Axeman]

I agree with whats been said in general, so theres no point making a huge post after my inactivity so far in day2.

So far i have 3 people i'm thinking of.

YorkshireBlue always ends up a major suspect because of the way he posts, and it isnt always correct. But things do point to yorkie a slight bit, but is that because other people are directing the thoughts onto him knowing its fairly easy to make things stick with him? with 4 votes on him so far, he needs to start convincing us he is town.

I wasnt convinced by MikeBlue in day one, and he remains a suspect... I am tempted to vote him, but then another Suspect from dayone is wes, and he has voted Mikeblue already...

VOTE MIKEBLUE to put some pressure on him

[MIASG]

I wasnt convinced by MikeBlue in day one, and he remains a suspect... I am tempted to vote him, but then another Suspect from dayone is wes, and he has voted Mikeblue already...

which makes me think that Wes is deflecting from himself and possibly laser onto the other suspect - Mikeblue .. but I still want YB to participate some more and prove he's town.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

i agree Mike was a bit out there on day one but i still find Yorkshire's play more suspicious, hence my vote.

[Quig]

Vote Count
Yorkshire Blue: 2 (MAISG, TCH)
Mikeblue: 4 (Wesmancity, Sir Villain, Currieman, Happy Axeman)

7 Votes for a lynch

[hippo]

You keep saying your suspiscious of me? Wheres your vote if you are that concerned? or any real evidence? Yesterday to me Steven looked more dodgy to me than Laserblue, but since Laserblue wasnt defending himself and Steven was claiming he was positive I had to reconsider. I went with Steven early when Laserblue didnt have many votes. Bit risky if I was mafia?

I still think its a fair assumption that Steven knew from the start that Laserblue was mafia. Steven being Jack Bauer only backs up that assumption so bit strange that your highlighting that.

Well, no. You'd have done that so that you looked like someone instigating, rather than someone adding a little vote at the end - because it's the ones at the end who get the attention, as you've proven by accusing the one's at the end. Like i said, you offered no actual content of your own, and questioned it at every opportunity. I know you'd have done the early voting thing, because we were mafia together in the last game, and shared tactics. It's all textbook mafia play, i'm just one of the only people on here who seems to look for things like this, rather than just glaring mistakes.

It's not a safe assumption at all. He was the godfather, he wouldn't have been found guilty. Unless you're saying a strong townie character was just told who the godfather was at the start, which'd be slightly harsh surely?

There's no real evidence left behind by anyone who's a decent player. It only tends to be investigations that rumble people like us. So why bother asking for that? I think you're choosing not to argue back, quite simply, because you're just going to kill me for being the only one picking up on your scumness, and then justify it tomorrow with a sentence something like "Stevenryals and Hippo are dead - both high profile targets always, so no surprises there.", and i guarantee people'll agree.

You don't have my vote because, quite simply, other people aren't going to vote for you. Because you're pretty good at convincing people you're innocent - you had almost everyone convinced you were innocent in the last game, despite a cop telling everyone you were guilty. So what chance do i have with my expert analysis alone?

How many easy targets are everyone going for? I know YB looks dodgy and his defense wasn't enough, but i'm not sure anyone else has even accused anyone who's been posting on day two so far? And no one's pointed out this is dodgy because you're ALL doing it. Axeman came on and posted saying YB was a suspect, but people might be going that way because it's easy, and then listed Wes and Mike as his other suspects - hypocrisy? 3 suspects, all not around or unlikely to defend themselves. He's not the only one.

[Sir Villain]

There's no real evidence left behind by anyone who's a decent player. It only tends to be investigations that rumble people like us. So why bother asking for that? I think you're choosing not to argue back, quite simply, because you're just going to kill me for being the only one picking up on your scumness, and then justify it tomorrow with a sentence something like "Stevenryals and Hippo are dead - both high profile targets always, so no surprises there.", and i guarantee people'll agree.

Well this is just desperate? The mafia are blatantly going to kill you know anyway and pin it on me? When I am mafia I tend to make mistakes, which is probably why Mikeblue investigated me. I'm much better at rooting out the scum which I have been trying to this game. Laserblue was a surprise to me, but now surely Yorkshire just looks incredibly dodgy. Thats not me or anybody trying to start a bandwagon, thats just fact. Then his defence offered a pitiful excuse that he wouldnt be stupid enough to kill Steven. I think he should be todays lynch, but until the others start playing we have no chance of doing anything.

Unvote:Mikeblue, although he still hasnt turned up to explain himself I don't want this bandwagon snowballing any further while I'm out.

[hippo]

Currieman. Good player. Playing an appallingly unhelpful game for the town, what does that tell us?

By the way, with people role claiming in this game, I don't think we should take any role claim for granted at all because every single person could lie

Started off with a vote on YB (fair enough, game starts with randomness), but is then pretty eager to denounce roleclaiming. It's been pretty well documented that roleclaiming has cost the evil folk victories in the last few games, and this looks dodgy to me.

As for my thoughts on the game, the whole thing going on with mikeblue is odd but i dont think he would b making mistakes like that if he were mafia. Has made me think perhaps 1 of the 3 people really pressuring him may b evil and trying to pick on a townie making mistakes for an easy lynch but hard to say at the moment.

So from this we can say that he doesn't think he's mafia. And he's just voted for him citing that he thinks Mike has a night action. Interesting.

Now, read all of the following votes, and try and see if you're any the wiser regarding why these people have been voted for any of them. He always says someone's suspicious, but never seems to give a reason. Is this helpful?

(some are from longer posts, but these are the reasons for voting in their entirety. Clicking the links will verify this)

I will vote Amadjin though. A couple of his posts have stuck out looking a bit suspicious perhaps trying to defend people or just not really adding much to the game.

I'm gonna unvote yorkshire and vote Trick Pony because of his pointless arguing with Amadjin

I was pretty suspicious of Laser as well but thought Trick Pony was a bit more sus. Still think we should take a look at Mikeblue as well after his antics on day 1.

Unvote Trick Pony, vote Laserblue

I'm still very suspicious of Mikeblue though after yesterday, I think he is evil or atleast has a night action of some kind

Vote Mikeblue.

His actions on the last day were odd, plus he's lurking today and I reckon he's got some sort of night action as well be it good or bad, dunno yet

[Sir Villain]

Well this is just desperate? The mafia are blatantly going to kill you know anyway and pin it on me? When I am mafia I tend to make mistakes, which is probably why Mikeblue investigated me. I'm much better at rooting out the scum which I have been trying to this game. Laserblue was a surprise to me, but now surely Yorkshire just looks incredibly dodgy. Thats not me or anybody trying to start a bandwagon, thats just fact. Then his defence offered a pitiful excuse that he wouldnt be stupid enough to kill Steven. I think he should be todays lynch, but until the others start playing we have no chance of doing anything.

Unvote:Mikeblue, although he still hasnt turned up to explain himself I don't want this bandwagon snowballing any further while I'm out.

Urgh, that whole last statement was just rammed with grammatical errors. Here is how it should read.

Well this is just desperate? The mafia are blatantly going to kill you now anyway and try pin it on me? When I am on the mafia team, I tend to make mistakes, which is probably why Mikeblue investigated me [last game]. I'm much better at rooting out the scum which I have been trying too this game.

Laserblue was a surprise [turning up mafia] to me, but now surely Yorkshire just looks incredibly dodgy [based on his defence of laserblue when it wasnt needed]. Thats not me or anybody trying to start a bandwagon, thats just fact. Then his defence offered a pitiful excuse that he wouldnt be stupid enough to kill Steven. I think he should be today's lynch, but until the others start playing we have no chance of doing anything.

Unvote:Mikeblue, although he still hasnt turned up to explain himself I don't want this bandwagon snowballing any further while I'm out.

[Sir Villain]

I suggested earlier that Currieman seemed to be just sitting back stirring..another one is Wes.

This will not go down well but the reason i unvoted Mikeblue and then voted Laserblue was because the day was going now where and decided to vote Laser on what people said with his lack of posts.

I still feel the Mikeblue is a mafia member and i am going to Vote Mikeblue earlie on to get it moving along

Unvote Mikeblue Vote Laserblue

Wes was very active early on providing much of the attack on Mikeblue so why so quiet now once the momentum shifted from Mike? Perhaps hes not so sure what to do when the focus is on a fellow mafia member?

[MIASG]

I'm much better at rooting

Is what I would have said ..

Villian your not making much sense since hippo's attack on you .. first of all you agree that YB looks guilty

Laserblue was a surprise to me, but now surely Yorkshire just looks incredibly dodgy. Thats not me or anybody trying to start a bandwagon, thats just fact. Then his defence offered a pitiful excuse that he wouldnt be stupid enough to kill Steven. I think he should be todays lynch, but until the others start playing we have no chance of doing anything.

but you don't actually vote for him and take your vote off mikeblue.   Obviously feeling frustrated you post again with the grammatical changes ... and then have a go at curriman and wes both who have voted for your prevoius vote of mikeblue .. 
Are you worried your starting another bandwagon if your 3rd vote on for YB?
I think it's now down to you and yorkshireblue as most likely on Day 2.  I still want to hear from YB so my vote stands.

We've had some serious storms in Brisbane the last day or 2 so I know that's affected TP slightly but he was at work today and has offered nothing FOS TP - basically missed most of day 1 with Indy and now can't be arsed participating on day 2 ?  and he had the nerve to attack non posters ..

[hippo]

Well this is just desperate? The mafia are blatantly going to kill you know anyway and pin it on me? When I am mafia I tend to make mistakes, which is probably why Mikeblue investigated me. I'm much better at rooting out the scum which I have been trying to this game. Laserblue was a surprise to me, but now surely Yorkshire just looks incredibly dodgy. Thats not me or anybody trying to start a bandwagon, thats just fact. Then his defence offered a pitiful excuse that he wouldnt be stupid enough to kill Steven. I think he should be todays lynch, but until the others start playing we have no chance of doing anything.

Unvote:Mikeblue, although he still hasnt turned up to explain himself I don't want this bandwagon snowballing any further while I'm out.

Mistakes like accusing stevenryals strongly of being mafia, saying you didn't think the godfather looked dodgy, siding with mikeblue in an argument between me, stevenryals and him, but now voting for him because he's hidden since some pretty decent reasons were put forward against him in the same argument. Saying that you think if Afroboy (SVH) is mafia then Laser probably is as well, but we should lynch Afro/SVH, and then revisit Laser if necessary. But now that Laser has been found to be the godfather, not even mentioning it, because obviously you were trying to divert people away from Laser at the time, and weren't saying something you actually believed in.

Putting all of your weight on to stevenryals, saying if he wasn't right, then he'd be lynched. I mean, it must have been a guess - because like you've repeatedly ignored, cops don't find the godfather guilty - based on what had happened (he wasn't the only one), so essentially, you had him set up for a lynch if his guessing had been off. That, to me, makes sense if you're cult or a serial killer or something, because you win either way (if he's right, your evil opponents would be one down, and if he's wrong, you have an easy lynch on a strong player).

If that's the case, and you're not mafia, but are a serial killer, i'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you did in fact "roleclaim", in the way that you like to (quoting Nina's last words in the last game), right here..

Good shout. Since Bauer was in the game and we have just had a 24 Mafia maybe he has put someone in from Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit...Smaug the Dragon?

I know YB looks dodgy, it was me who pointed it out yesterday (you didn't think it was at the time, you were telling everyone to vote for Afro/SVH rather than Laser), but is that going to change? I'm more for taking a bit of time (maybe 'cause whoever's mafia/evil, be it you or anyone else, i can't see myself lasting much longer than tonight), and getting more information out there. YB's defense of Laser was obvious, and his defense of himself was rubbish, and that should see him lynched today, but i'd rather find some stuff out about everyone else, rather than just ending the day without some people even posting. I know you've actively tried to make people post, i wasn't accusing you of the opposite - just saying what i think should happen.

[i2i Killer 89]

In all honesty, I realised that my posts were looking a bit crap in that way but didn't want to say anything because it looked like nobody had realised and I didn't really want to bring something up that would make me look suspicious because that would be stupid.

Most of the time that I posted those things it was because people before me had always said exactly what I was gonna say (like Hippo did with Laserblue) and then Hammer did with Trick Pony I think it was. I didn't really want to just say exactly what the people before me had said so just said they looked suspicious which they did.

Was also wondering how long it would be before someone realised what I was saying about Mikeblue. As I say I am still unsure about whether he is good or evil but I'm under the impression he's got a night action and he is the most suspicious looking in my eyes at the moment because of this and because of how he played the first day and how he's just not posted on day 2

[Trick Pony]

We've had some serious storms in Brisbane the last day or 2 so I know that's affected TP slightly but he was at work today and has offered nothing FOS TP - basically missed most of day 1 with Indy and now can't be arsed participating on day 2 ?  and he had the nerve to attack non posters ..

so me being affected by the storm and having no power to turn on my effin computer is now seen as being a non-poster... grow up MIASG you moved for a few days so that would make you a non poster as well...

I havent had the time to have a good read over whats been happening so once I find the time I will post.

My opinion of mike and afro still havent changed from day one I have always thought them to be the most suspicious and mafia so id probably vote mike at this stage though until I read whats happened I wont vote.  As I wanted lasers response before the end of the first day, we are just lucky that he turned out to be the god father, so I am still thinking laser and afro are mafia because the three of them were defending each other early on in day one. There cant be any other reason for them to defend each other unless they are masons or mafia, and masons dont generally defend each other so early in the game so that directs me to thinking the three of them are mafia...

So mike and afro can you respond to my thoughts as I would love to hear them .....

Not much said from TCH as usual... hes generally slipped back into his typical posting style with general comments and nothing much..

Maybe we should look more into Steve being killed.. I might have a look later to see who he targeting during day one which resulted in him being killeg, it maybe important to directing the next lynch..  it wouldnt surprise me if it involved miasg the cowboy

[MIASG]

Maybe we should look more into Steve being killed.. I might have a look later to see who he targeting during day one which resulted in him being killeg, it maybe important to directing the next lynch..  it wouldnt surprise me if it involved miasg the cowboy

yeah I'd like to see how you link me with Steve's death?  I think the most important thing to look at from his death is that he's the only one ..  plus we had to wait a few days for all the night actions to finish .. so I'm assuming there's more evil out there then the mafia .. and there is usually at least a serial killer - now whilst it's plausable the both targeted Stevenryals it's also possible one or more of them were blocked .. again the assumption that there are 1 or more role blockers in the game. 

[Trick Pony]

yeah I'd like to see how you link me with Steve's death?  I think the most important thing to look at from his death is that he's the only one ..  plus we had to wait a few days for all the night actions to finish .. so I'm assuming there's more evil out there then the mafia .. and there is usually at least a serial killer - now whilst it's plausable the both targeted Stevenryals it's also possible one or more of them were blocked .. again the assumption that there are 1 or more role blockers in the game. 

why would you highlight how many town roles are in the game... your sounding more like mafia with every post... and since you have been a useless townie for the past few games the odds are strongly against you for being town again and similar for TCH.  It doesnt matter how many townies were involved in saving others or roleblocking at this stage as its to early.. thought your thoughts on having more bad roles than mafia may something for us to look into or your trying to mislead the rest of us... im still going to look back to see the interaction around steves death...