Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

[Mikeblue]

Something dodgy is going on here me thinks!

There seem to be a lot of people come and go today with no response to the goings on.

Me thinks a few sheep waiting to follow the flock!

[hippo]

Hippo if you are the president and going by the claims wouldn't you try to possible save aaron peirce as if his claim is true he can save your bacon at night?

Right, okay, this is what happened.

- mikeblue half claimed cop (no name stated), told us Hammer was guilty. I said i believed him, but wanted to hear Hammer's claim.
- Hammer claims well, and due to the nature of the role, though i don't know about it, i'll go along with it because obviously it's a positive role for myself, and it opens the door to the whole paranoid cop avenue of thought.
- Then mike reveals he's found me innocent, so obviously not a paranoid cop (always guilty) and obviously not an insane one (because i know he got the investigation on me right).
- I therefore voted for Hammer. Who has been found guilty. Because it's what makes logical sense, as he is clearly mafia or the serial killer.

I find it bizarre that other people don't follow this way of thinking.

[MASTERZULU]

Quote from: MASTERZULU on October 06, 2008, 10:00:51 PM
As for who else is mafia I'm still not sure, looking back on what axeman said about both him and I being added after the roles had been given out, he said something about we have probably both been given town roles, which couuld be true, but it also stands to reason that if you add an extra two players that you might add one on either side, so at this stage I'm not ruling axeman out as possible mafia

lol I see what your trying to do here, you have been given a mafia henchman role, and youve picked up on what i have said, and seen conflict from others attacking me for my claim... and now see fit to plant seeds to try and stitch me up...

haha nice try but its quite the opposite, why would I risk bringing up something that could possibly make me look like mafia after it has been over looked by everyone else. You are looking quite sus at the moment my old chum. 

[bluestarsneyes]

freaking crap...had a financial conversion yesterday and today and haven't caught up yet....WOW..at the pages to read...what the heck! I'll go read and see what's on

[bluestarsneyes]

Dear Lord...I am sitting here scratching my head....I'm just not sure what I think honestly....
here we have Mike...claims cop....gets a guilty on hammer....and for me that would have been the end of it, but then all this paranoid/insane cop crap...and then we still have a serial killer possibility...altho ugh might be unlikely as we had a cult as well..who knows....and now it's voices saying kill hippo that came back innocent because he could be godfather and yet somehow that doesn't sit well with me either....I ain't got a clue right now....I mean someone's lying...one of these three is lying...and at the moment I just can't make out which is more believable...becaus e everything being posted is plausible....I just don't know....I do however think that we have to get some more folks posting in here to talk this out...I mean at this point mike,hammer,hippo have said what they have to say....the others of us need to weight in with our responses....I think alot of folks are holding back on their vote because well....I've never seen it get so weird either and I'm not sure what I think at the moment....my gut tells me go with hammer and if not then we find out if mike is crazy or not and then if he is kill him....but that might give him another chance to survive and investigate again....or go with hippo on the assumption about his cliam...but if we are wrong doesn't that leave hammer to know exactly who to take out if he truly is evil...I don't know too many senarios to process at the moment.

[wesmancity]

what the hell are you going on about? I'm not putting any words into your mouth.
you played like this last time you were mafia, and no-one believed me then.
you blatantly know what me and miasg keep refering too, yet you come over all bold saying your prepared to answer any question, then ignore stuff and spit out one sentance bollocks to wriggle out of it. read back yourself, and do some investigating and something productive for the town for a change.
I never back away from valid questions.
oh look, youve completly bi-passed mikeblues posts... got nothing to say about your two mafia colleagues? 

Bwwwhaahahahahahaha!!!

you are a fibber, you first tell everyone i said you was deffensive!! (Reply 453, Page 23) and then you told peeps that a called you Aggressive (Reply 553, Page 28), and the second i asked you to tell me when i called you that, which you never answerd.

You have been trying to get people to vote for me all game with your comments on me!

UNVOTE Hammer VOTE Happy Axeman

[*Afroboy*]

Sorry for the absence, computer access has been very small as my laptop broke but it's fixed now.

Axeman, you're just trying to get me to post so i'm just going to leave your big claims about me.

Very confusing right now, I have to say unless someone claims against mikeblue I believe he is townie, but I think there is a good possibility that hammer and hippo could both be evil, if not then one is. I think we might be looking too much into this and missing the obvious... A false claim from hammer. Vote Hammer

I also think masterzulu is most likely evil. I don't like the way he is playing.

[Trick Pony]

I think we should leave hammer,mikeblue, and hippo for now and focus on the people how havent role calimed, all three of the above have believable roles which could all be good for the town during the night phase so why push to get one lynched 

I think we should focus on the unclaimed people to get an easy mafia / non town lynch, targeting them will be easier at this stage as we have so many roles claimed which with the odds of how many townies we lost on the first night you would think further claims could then make everything alot more interesting... I think MZ YB and Afro will be good starting points for at least henchmen...

claimed
Miasg - jack
Hammer - Town Role Blocker - Aaron
mikeblue (almeida) could be cop or paranoid cop
Hippo - President

unclaimed
trick pony - town
bluestars
YB
Happy Axeman
Afroboy
Masterzulu
Wes

[MIASG]

Sorry for the absence, computer access has been very small as my laptop broke but it's fixed now.
Axeman, you're just trying to get me to post so i'm just going to leave your big claims about me.
Very confusing right now, I have to say unless someone claims against mikeblue I believe he is townie, but I think there is a good possibility that hammer and hippo could both be evil, if not then one is. I think we might be looking too much into this and missing the obvious... A false claim from hammer. Vote Hammer I also think masterzulu is most likely evil. I don't like the way he is playing.

comes on won't reply to questions .. doesn't even look to say anything about my post about him ..summerises has no proof offered that hammers is false but claims it anyway .. did nothing day .. hiding in background again .. VOTE AFROBOY

[Trick Pony]

currie can we get a vote count please 

now afro what was that  answer the questions mafioso

[MASTERZULU]

Sorry for the absence, computer access has been very small as my laptop broke but it's fixed now.

Axeman, you're just trying to get me to post so i'm just going to leave your big claims about me.

Very confusing right now, I have to say unless someone claims against mikeblue I believe he is townie, but I think there is a good possibility that hammer and hippo could both be evil, if not then one is. I think we might be looking too much into this and missing the obvious... A false claim from hammer. Vote Hammer

I also think masterzulu is most likely evil. I don't like the way he is playing.

LOL do people pick me out of the crowd because they think I'm a soft target or what. I had a feeling you were mafia and that last statement has all but confimed it

[Sir Villain]

haha nice try but its quite the opposite, why would I risk bringing up something that could possibly make me look like mafia after it has been over looked by everyone else. You are looking quite sus at the moment my old chum. 

Although I know that Hippo [or very unlikely Mikeblue] must be lying, I think Axeman is looking more and more dodgy, and thinking back I might know why.

If Mikeblue as a Cop got a Pre-Game Investigation, then surely the Cult got a Pre-Game recruit. Hammerbro is quite smart sometimes so logically who would be the most useful recruit. Axeman. Especially so because he entered the game late, and would therefore be very likely Town or at least Neutral. At least the leader is dead so if my theory is right then he hasnt recruited anyone, but in one game I modded and Currieman played in the Cult could recruit every other night if the leader died. Perhaps Axeman was town, but it now Cult which would explain why he is stirring everything and upsetting several players.

I have to leave my vote on Hippo because I know he is mafia, but maybe Axeman is another decent shout, especially if he get to recruit again tonight, in which case Miasg would probably be in danger tonight!!!

[Sir Villain]

This also applies to Zulu being a good target for pre-game recruit, but I think Axeman is stirring things up more than him, and would be a better recruit target because alot of people listen to him on this board and dont like voting him.

[MIASG]

currie can we get a vote count please 

bloody hell your lazy

[MIASG]

If Mikeblue as a Cop got a Pre-Game Investigation, then surely the Cult got a Pre-Game recruit.

if all these people are getting pre-game stuff then why couldn't i get a pre-game kill as Jack !  surely we are clutching at straws now.  no one's comnig on and saying any of the claimed roles are dodgy because they are already taken ... what if hammer you were in fact aaron peirce and bodygaurd but it was infact you who was selected as cult before the start .. that's why you came back against us but no one is going against your role claim .. I'm starting to think that's the case  and therefore mikeblue and hippo are townie as well .. so that leaves the mafia being quiet .. vote sticks with afro .. I can always take you out at night hammer    

bluestars you are being ultra quiet .. one other thing I've noticed you haven't done is your usual round up of the FOS's and VOTE's and the last time you played and were mafia you didn't do this as well ... but still I think happy and afroboy are the biggest targets today now for me.  Wes I'm unsure of .. Zulu becuase he's new and not doing too much keeps him safer for now.  YorkshireBlue though - I had a go at you on day 1 and you said you were bored .. came back day 2 posted bugger all ..  at this stage you are my other target at night.  Convince me otherwise - you haven't done a good job on it so far - what saved you was laserblue and although he was town he still can't know for sure if you are ie not a mason with you.

[Mikeblue]

I think we should leave hammer,mikeblue, and hippo for now and focus on the people how havent role calimed, all three of the above have believable roles which could all be good for the town during the night phase so why push to get one lynched 

I think we should focus on the unclaimed people to get an easy mafia / non town lynch, targeting them will be easier at this stage as we have so many roles claimed which with the odds of how many townies we lost on the first night you would think further claims could then make everything alot more interesting... I think MZ YB and Afro will be good starting points for at least henchmen...

claimed
Miasg - jack
Hammer - Town Role Blocker - Aaron
mikeblue (almeida) could be cop or paranoid cop
Hippo - President

unclaimed
trick pony - town
bluestars
YB
Happy Axeman
Afroboy
Masterzulu
Wes

How can you possibly focus on other people???

[Sir Villain]

What if hammer you were in fact aaron peirce and bodygaurd, but it was infact you who was selected as cult before the start .. that's why you came back against us but no one is going against your role claim .. I'm starting to think that's the case  and therefore mikeblue and hippo are townie as well .. so that leaves the mafia being quiet .. vote sticks with afro .. I can always take you out at night hammer    

Ok, thats a fair comment, but one which I know not to be true. If you are threatening to kill me, then I will have to roleblock you tonight if you really do intend to kill me. I know we can't afford a townie to die, and am amazed no one has come forward to counter Hippo's President claim since I know for certain he is in the game since I have to protect him. Maybe Hippo was converted as Cult in night one...

I agree that Afroboy might be playing a very smart game though.

[Mikeblue]

Dear Lord...I am sitting here scratching my head....I'm just not sure what I think honestly....
here we have Mike...claims cop....gets a guilty on hammer....and for me that would have been the end of it, but then all this paranoid/insane cop crap...and then we still have a serial killer possibility...altho ugh might be unlikely as we had a cult as well..who knows....and now it's voices saying kill hippo that came back innocent because he could be godfather and yet somehow that doesn't sit well with me either....I ain't got a clue right now....I mean someone's lying...one of these three is lying...and at the moment I just can't make out which is more believable...becaus e everything being posted is plausible....I just don't know....I do however think that we have to get some more folks posting in here to talk this out...I mean at this point mike,hammer,hippo have said what they have to say....the others of us need to weight in with our responses....I think alot of folks are holding back on their vote because well....I've never seen it get so weird either and I'm not sure what I think at the moment....my gut tells me go with hammer and if not then we find out if mike is crazy or not and then if he is kill him....but that might give him another chance to survive and investigate again....or go with hippo on the assumption about his cliam...but if we are wrong doesn't that leave hammer to know exactly who to take out if he truly is evil...I don't know too many senarios to process at the moment.

Why would you kill me if I was crazy? I'm still town. I'm not paranoid as every ivestigation would come back guilty.

Possibility of reverse cop role yes but why would you kill a known towny??? Very strange statement.

Surely its a decision between hippo and sir hammer so peeps just make a decision.

I'm sticking with Sir Hammer.

[MIASG]

I think what he meant (but he probably didn't   ) was not to forget the other people .. he's just following my lead

Ok, thats a fair comment, but one which I know not to be true. If you are threatening to kill me, then I will have to roleblock you tonight if you really do intend to kill me. I know we can't afford a townie to die, and am amazed no one has come forward to counter Hippo's President claim since I know for certain he is in the game since I have to protect him. Maybe Hippo was converted as Cult in night one... I agree that Afroboy might be playing a very smart game though.

yeah but your arguement relies on either mikeblue lying or he's a paranoid cop .. i've got no problems if you roleblock me might convince me but you are not my only target - I was wrong and may choose not to do anything.  Guess it depends on who is lynched.   I guess hippo won't die at night either if your claim is right.  Cult leader is dead .. we have no way of knowing if he actually had a pre-game role.  Sort of wonder why there is any seeing how the story pans out .. I'd expect more terrorist bombers than this.

Why would you kill me if I was crazy? I'm still town. I'm not paranoid as every ivestigation would come back guilty.
Possibility of reverse cop role yes but why would you kill a known towny??? Very strange statement.  Surely its a decision between hippo and sir hammer so peeps just make a decision.  I'm sticking with Sir Hammer.

so your guess is you are a normal straight up cop ..

[Mikeblue]

At this moment in time I have no real reason to think otherwise have I? People are going to bring up this idea and yes it is a possibility ..... guess there is only one way to find out for sure.

Maybe TP is mafia and wants everyone to claim to see who is best to take out