Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

[Trick Pony]

I want to hear from Mikeblue, unfortunatley he will have to probably role claim otherwise I will have to believe Sir Hammer... his claim looks pretty good at this stage.

[hippo]

Hippo do you believe hammer since you believe mikeblue ?

I'd like to point out, i'm not 100% believing anyone at the moment.

Hammer's claim seems very solid, but let's not just believe it - they could have been given safe names to claim, and having modded so many games, he'd be pretty decent at coming up with a convincing role to go along with it. Aaron Pierce would have been a name i expected to actually have a character though.

I still want an answer to my question to mikeblue, because he seemed to just avoid it. How can you possibly have two pieces of good information, after one nightphase? Are you lying?

[Mikeblue]

Well this is going to throw a big spanner in the works!!!

I could investigate before the game started and I investigated....... ...Hippo. He came back as innocent and Sir Hammer came back as guilty last night. 

I am not ruling out the fact I might be a paranoid cop and I honestly for some reason believe Sir Hammer. Guess there is only one way to find out and then at least we will know!

UNVOTE SIR HAMMER VOTE HIPPO

[Happy Axeman]

Right 4 pages so far in this day...

Not a good lynch for us, but after Stevens claim(what a knob! why did he do it, the day was going well) , not much else we could of done was there? Bluestars never said she knew he was joking despite posting directly after him. And wes couldnt be arsed commentating on it either... bit strange methinks.
and then its Not a good following night for us.
Only bonus being we have prevented the cult from obtaining a dangerous foothold.

Looking on the nights events, Its obvious Miasg took out TCH, who incidently i didnt see as being evil and was caught up in the bullshit and slander caused by other players which often happens when mafia chip in with other peoples conflicts, and some people just cannot see what is really happening.
Laserblue's death, could it be that he died whilst protecting someone?... his role was town bodygaurd.

As for who else is mafia I'm still not sure, looking back on what axeman said about both him and I being added after the roles had been given out, he said something about we have probably both been given town roles, which couuld be true, but it also stands to reason that if you add an extra two players that you might add one on either side, so at this stage I'm not ruling axeman out as possible mafia

lol I see what your trying to do here, you have been given a mafia henchman role, and youve picked up on what i have said, and seen conflict from others attacking me for my claim... and now see fit to plant seeds to try and stitch me up...

I'm going to have a think about who hammerbro might have been recruiting... I'm thinking Sir hammer, Axeman, or Hippo straight up ... 

Why would he go for me? I'm a very highprofile target, there was many people in the first day who suspect me, why recruit someone who is such a high risk?

Wes did you read all of Sir Hammer's last post?  do you think that he is bluffing and actually mafia trying to convince us he's town?  this isn't the first time you've pretty much posted with what looks like no consideration of what's been posted before at all.  FOS WESMANCITY
 same here - no consideration to what hammer has said .. FOS Mikeblue

Wes still hasnt answered the question posed by both of us from day1, he is constantly trying to wriggle out of things, changes his mind like the wind. He is my clear favourite for a day2 lynch.

Are you wise??? Read what I have wrote!!!

If I am wrong then lynch me the next day.

Can you not see what is infront of your eyes? If I was mafia would I be saying what I'm saying?

Some people can't see a frog until it jumps up and kicks them in the face???

What is there to believe that Sir Hammer has said??? That I am the serial killer??? Behave.

so your saying to lynch a possible town, so mafia will by the have the game almost won? so yes, if you are mafia, you would be saying the things you are saying. You too Mikeblue, cannot see the wood for the trees.

  this is from quite early on .. afro was trying to package us together and had already FOS'd me for what I still couldn't really understand .. what would have made him think TCH or myself was mafia and the other serial killer at that stage? this is usually something the serial killer would say to announce their role and put the suspicions on others.   FOS AFROBOY.

I suspect Afroboy to be evil, to get at afroboy you first have to fight his dad! lol

This game has gone to the bollocks!!, why dont we all role claim and then we would know whos mafia wouldnt we?

Right whos next?


So Misag aka (trick Pony is a c*nt) Town
Hammer - Town Role Blocker
Wesmancity aka me - Town

The rest.......


Mikeblue 
Bluestars
Hippo
Happy Axeman
Trick Pony         
Afroboy
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

You scared of everyone roleclaiming wes? Although not really in the spirit of the game, Only mafia would be scared of that scenario in this theme based game.

I still want an answer to my question to mikeblue, because he seemed to just avoid it. How can you possibly have two pieces of good information, after one nightphase? Are you lying?

I think he could very well be lying(or be paranoid). But If he has 2 pieces of good information, then one would suspect he had a pre-game investigation and he placed it on Yorkie... I have my doubts about mikeblue, he seemed ruffled by my called 'style', as did wes...

so people are making lists? ok heres mine.
DEFFO TOWN
ME
MIASG

Probable Town
DerHammer - Is the only player in day1 that i was confident was town.

Suspected Mafia/Evil:
Wesmancity - The guy is playing like he is evil. I can smell his fear...
Mikeblue - He confuses himself, and calls people blind when he cant see things himself.
Afroboy - Guilty, Hid behind his dad, now his dad has gone he needs to come out and speak.
ZULU - I am now beginning to doubt like Zulu says, that both late signees were good.


Anyone else I'm not sure either way, and remain suspects.

VOTE WESMANCITY

[Happy Axeman]

Well this is going to throw a big spanner in the works!!!

I could investigate before the game started and I investigated....... ...Hippo. He came back as innocent and Sir Hammer came back as guilty last night. 

I am not ruling out the fact I might be a paranoid cop and I honestly for some reason believe Sir Hammer. Guess there is only one way to find out and then at least we will know!

UNVOTE SIR HAMMER VOTE HIPPO

I know i havent commentated on hippo in my last post, but i do suspect him, he is playing strange.
but your post has just completly got me confused.
I suspect Hammer of being Town(and its a decent roleclaim), yet you have a Guilty? and Hippo is 'Town'?

I thought paranoid cop gets all guilty? maybe you have a result reversal cop?
but if your claiming cop, why havent you revealed your name?

[Mikeblue]

Well the way I see it is that if I was paranoid they would both come back the same.

I may have a cop reversal role yes. I'm kinda of thinking that myself. With what has happened I think the only way forward is to lynch Hippo. Would be a tough call to lynch Sir Hammer after his claim.

Either way we will know something. We might even get lucky and Hippo be the Godfather as he has played that kind of game where he could be. Then we still have the info on Sir Hammer to come back to. And maybe some more after tonight.

[Mikeblue]

I have never watched 24 so maybe my name will shed some light for you guys that know the series on whether I could be a dodgy cop.

I am Tony Almeid and I am a member of CTU?

[wesmancity]

Wes still hasnt answered the question posed by both of us from day1, he is constantly trying to wriggle out of things

VOTE WESMANCITY

Happy, why havent you told the town why you keep putting words in my mouth and when questioned youre not answering? i have asked you a number of time why you keep doing this and you have not answerd.

And whats the question you want me to answer? fire away or are we gonna forget like always or will it take you a couple of days like the norm with your posts?

[Happy Axeman]

Well the way I see it is that if I was paranoid they would both come back the same.

I may have a cop reversal role yes. I'm kinda of thinking that myself. With what has happened I think the only way forward is to lynch Hippo. Would be a tough call to lynch Sir Hammer after his claim.

Either way we will know something. We might even get lucky and Hippo be the Godfather as he has played that kind of game where he could be. Then we still have the info on Sir Hammer to come back to. And maybe some more after tonight.

you know what mike, I think you may of selected well with your investigations. the more i think about it, the more I'm convinced we have the godfather and a henchman on our radar.
at first look it seems crazy to go for hippo, he has afterall got an innocent verdict if you are who you actually say you are! but I do see the bizarre logic just because of the way Hippo is playing... the more i read back, the more i can see Hippo and Hammer bouncing off each other.

Happy, why havent you told the town why you keep putting words in my mouth and when questioned youre not answering? i have asked you a number of time why you keep doing this and you have not answerd.

And whats the question you want me to answer? fire away or are we gonna forget like always or will it take you a couple of days like the norm with your posts?

what the hell are you going on about? I'm not putting any words into your mouth.
you played like this last time you were mafia, and no-one believed me then.
you blatantly know what me and miasg keep refering too, yet you come over all bold saying your prepared to answer any question, then ignore stuff and spit out one sentance bollocks to wriggle out of it. read back yourself, and do some investigating and something productive for the town for a change.
I never back away from valid questions.
oh look, youve completly bi-passed mikeblues posts... got nothing to say about your two mafia colleagues? 

[Mikeblue]

Wes I did think it strange with all that is going on you make no comment on it what so ever and post a stupid post about Happy..............

[Mikeblue]

you know what mike, I think you may of selected well with your investigations. the more i think about it, the more I'm convinced we have the godfather and a henchman on our radar.
at first look it seems crazy to go for hippo, he has afterall got an innocent verdict if you are who you actually say you are! but I do see the bizarre logic just because of the way Hippo is playing... the more i read back, the more i can see Hippo and Hammer bouncing off each other.
what the hell are you going on about? I'm not putting any words into your mouth.
you played like this last time you were mafia, and no-one believed me then.
you blatantly know what me and miasg keep refering too, yet you come over all bold saying your prepared to answer any question, then ignore stuff and spit out one sentance bollocks to wriggle out of it. read back yourself, and do some investigating and something productive for the town for a change.
I never back away from valid questions.
oh look, youve completly bi-passed mikeblues posts... got nothing to say about your two mafia colleagues? 

So you agree but have not changed your vote???

Are you just stirring the pot of doubt? Actions speak louder than words!

[Happy Axeman]

no, I'm just waiting to see the days events unfold(hippo and hammer are both reading the thread... and must post now that ive just mentioned them!), afterall i only voted Wes a few posts ago, and we still havent had a response which suggests he is innoncent has he? 

[Mikeblue]

Is that not abusive of Power Happy??? I can see there were 2 hidden but thought one was probably Ryalss.

Maybe they are cheating and plotting their next action as we have them by the short and curlys. Would be a great result if Hippo turned out to be Godfather lol.

[hippo]

I have never watched 24 so maybe my name will shed some light for you guys that know the series on whether I could be a dodgy cop.

I am Tony Almeid and I am a member of CTU?

Tony Almeida's the second most reliable and loyal character in the show. There's no chance he'd be dodgy. ANYONE who has seen the show should know this.

vote sir hammer

Axeman. Having played a mafia role with me, what tactics would i use? Would it involve a change of posting style for instance? Or would it be to go all out to make it look like you're playing the same?

I'm not the godfather. I'm not mafia. I'm not evil. If you want to lynch me based on finding me innocent, fair enough. But as the mafia already know who Jack and Tony are, and have taken out the the bodyguard/protection type role, does it really make sense to kill another townie to find out someone's mafia? Hammer's lying.

He creates roles every game. The mafia get given safe names to claim. Is it really that hard to work out what he's done?

[Sir Villain]

Well the way I see it is that if I was paranoid they would both come back the same.

I may have a cop reversal role yes. I'm kinda of thinking that myself. With what has happened I think the only way forward is to lynch Hippo. Would be a tough call to lynch Sir Hammer after his claim.

I have to Unvote:Mikeblue, Vote:Hippo. I'm innocent and Aaron Pierce. If Mikeblue is being 100% honest then I am now of the sole opinion that Hippo must be mafia because I know I'm not. He is very good at lying and spinning, but don't listen to him. Tony Almeida becomes a legend in 24, but in the first season he keep fucking up and trusting the wrong people, then he got locked up for Treason in another Season. He could easily be an insane cop.

Hippo, yesterday you demanded I claim. Now I demand you claim.

If Hippo is any Mafia Member and Mike is an Insane Cop then he would come up innocent because Insane cops just always get it wrong. I know Mikeblue is wrong about me, so he must be wrong with his innocent on Hippo. I'm sure Currie had this role in his Lost Mafia.

Going out for a few hours now for Football, but will respond asap.

[Mikeblue]

Tony Almeida's the second most reliable and loyal character in the show. There's no chance he'd be dodgy. ANYONE who has seen the show should know this.

vote sir hammer

Axeman. Having played a mafia role with me, what tactics would i use? Would it involve a change of posting style for instance? Or would it be to go all out to make it look like you're playing the same?

I'm not the godfather. I'm not mafia. I'm not evil. If you want to lynch me based on finding me innocent, fair enough. But as the mafia already know who Jack and Tony are, and have taken out the the bodyguard/protection type role, does it really make sense to kill another townie to find out someone's mafia? Hammer's lying.

He creates roles every game. The mafia get given safe names to claim. Is it really that hard to work out what he's done?

You said before you believed his role claim??? Why the change of heart???

[Mikeblue]

Ha ha ha!!!!

I knew this would put a spanner in the works!!!

Now we must all come together and decide who to lynch I guess.

I'm swaying towards Hippo myself at the moment so my vote stands.

His las post stunk of panic after his calmness before hand.

[Sir Villain]

You said before you believed his role claim??? Why the change of heart???

Because he is threatened.....

[hippo]

You said before you believed his role claim??? Why the change of heart???

Mike. Read what i actually said.

I'd like to point out, i'm not 100% believing anyone at the moment.

Hammer's claim seems very solid, but let's not just believe it - they could have been given safe names to claim, and having modded so many games, he'd be pretty decent at coming up with a convincing role to go along with it. Aaron Pierce would have been a name i expected to actually have a character though.

And like i've said, Tony Almeida is almost up there with Jack in his reliability and loyalty in the programme. He certainly isn't someone who fits an insane cop type scenario.

Like i said before, i'm not mafia or the godfather. But i don't expect you to just believe it, after all, i never believe anything any of you lot say, and that's the way to play. BUT, essentially, you're choosing guessing (badly) about me, over lynching someone you know is mafia. Sense? Nah.

[Mikeblue]

If you read through the last few pages I think you have to vote Hippo in all honesty.

Just look at the style he has written things in. Just stirring and never fully commiting on anything.

Would like to hear other peoples ideas though.