Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

[Sir Villain]

This day is dragging along if you ask me to the point that if we honestly go another week and remain on day one....this game is going to die....I am not so sure I agree that Miasg should make the decision solely on who to lynch....however, doing something to move the progression of this game off of day one is well...obvious....i t's day one...how long can we really keep this going on and still keep everyone's interest.

As per normal we completely disagree. The day has to be decided on a majority lynch otherwise its not fair. There's more town than mafia so why would we want to make it so the few are powerful. The day is going fine in my opinion and we dont need to rush it!!!

Hammer....somehow there is a part of me that wonders if you and wes ain't in cahoots.....with wes doing your dirty work...he is accusing me of being absent when I give notice...and yet you are gone with no notice or explanation and yet he never mentions you...then you seem opposed to any efforts to get solution to ending day one...but that could just be your moderator personality driving that opinion.

My idea to end day one is to lynch the most suspect person. Steven suggested an idea which seemed quite opportunistic, and misguided in trying to quickly get Miasg to pick someone, which would leave us with no info if the pick was town, and in bad position for day two. I'm actually going to vote for him now to put some pressure on him to respond since my FOS hasn't. Vote:Stevenryals. Not even bothered if you think im somehow linked with Wes, because thats you clutching at straws. I was away for a few days at the start of the game and completely off the forum. I then missed one solitary day. I've posted and checked the forum everyday since. I'm active, and want to catch the mafia.

[*Afroboy*]

I was already suspicious of you bluestars and these two posts makes me think that even more. At the moment for me wes isn't one of the most sus people, also I didn't go on about you not being around. I did say you weren't posting as much as usual but i feel you have twisted my words. For me you are looking very suspect in the way you post, i do understand the reasons for lack of posting but it's what you're posting that i Vote bluestars for.

[MASTERZULU]

Sorry about bit being around for a few days. Had to have my dog put to sleep on friday so not felt like doing much. Just gonna catch up on what I've missed.

[MIASG]

I have to say I don't fined YB that suspicious....lol.. .go figure...I actually think he's making an effort...I still can't follow half of what he's ever on about...but he's offering info and posting...and participating...tha t's more than we can say for Zulu...he's not even trying.

how can you believe that ?  I have previously posted what he had said which was nothing .. you can't understand half his posts but that's ok becuase he's posting and offering ?  offering what?  shit about line spacing ?fair enough zulu has posted since and given why he was inactive over the weekend (deepest sympathy mate - been there fricken terrible thing to do) but YB isn't offering anymore.  The only reason TP is now looking town is because he's starting to look at others .. I think his reasoning and logic behind half of his attacks are baseless, misguided, and petty.  Would he be doing this if I hadn't role claimed?   people are complaining about being on 19 or so pages but I'm sure 3-4 of these wer shit between TP, Me, and TCH.  TP might well be town but I haven't ruled him out entirely.  TCH was a part of this and since he "exposed" me, rightly or wrongly, I feel has slipped right back into the back ground. 

Hammer and Axeman your posts to me reick of smugness .. not sure if it's townie arrogance or belief that if your mafia your mates will help you... maybe 1 each ..   

Wes if you firmly believe Bluestars is bad then by all means vote and keep harassing her but there has been plenty of notice that she would not be active due to certain things, so some of your arguement is lost on me ..

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

As per normal we completely disagree. The day has to be decided on a majority lynch otherwise its not fair. There's more town than mafia so why would we want to make it so the few are powerful. The day is going fine in my opinion and we dont need to rush it!!!

I disagree if you can't get a majority lynch then tough, it's better to keep the game moving than people to get bored and stop posting which happens. Deadlines cause people fence sitting to become more active. I'd rather vote off a non playing person to get to the night phase and keep the game moving.

  TCH was a part of this and since he "exposed" me, rightly or wrongly, I feel has slipped right back into the back ground. 

I did mention a few pages ago that my net access was restricted due to some work being done at my home. As to exposing you, i just followed up on something you posted, anyone could have just because i'm in your timezone and posted it i'm at fault.


Sorry to hear about the dog Zulu :-(


I'm still leaving my vote on Afro for the moment but Laser has been attacking me ever since i did so, maybe the two are linked someway (in the game) and he's trying to deflect me away from Afro by attacking me.

[MIASG]

I did mention a few pages ago that my net access was restricted due to some work being done at my home. As to exposing you, i just followed up on something you posted, anyone could have just because i'm in your timezone and posted it i'm at fault.

 

yes restricted but not during the work day - I know that for fact ... maybe for saturday .. didn't stop you posting though ..  still think you've withdrawn a bit.   Yes it may be bad luck that you posted what you did - and you have said you didn't know who I was at the time - but seeing there is only 2 characters you come straight out with that - yet you keep stuff about what TP (before the actual start ) did and said to yourself for a few days.  Keeping information only to release it when it suits doesn't seem very "townie" to me..   Seems like you thought about what to do with that information (which my have shut him up earlier) and didn't think too much about outing me.  There doesn't seem to be any remorse however that you assisted in outing me.  It's just my fault 100% and since you are in my time zone just co-incidental and bad luck.   Of course really I only have myself to blame for not taking the time ..

I guess to sum in all up I don't trust you .. I don't know if your good or evil .. but I don't trust you.  Same with everyone else playing really   

also if there is a deadline and everyone posts wouldn't the person with the most votes be the majority lynch for that time ?   with no deadline then it would be 8 people to vote.  make sense?  probably not ..  does to me.  It's like an election with 16 parties .. everyone votes who ever gets the most votes (majority) wins .. or in this case loses.    it's basically survivor on day 1 .. "TP your tribe has spoken" etc etc ...  there is no point going on about it though as currieman has indicated the imminent arrival of a deadline.   

[laserblue]

I disagree if you can't get a majority lynch then tough, it's better to keep the game moving than people to get bored and stop posting which happens. Deadlines cause people fence sitting to become more active. I'd rather vote off a non playing person to get to the night phase and keep the game moving.

I did mention a few pages ago that my net access was restricted due to some work being done at my home. As to exposing you, i just followed up on something you posted, anyone could have just because i'm in your timezone and posted it i'm at fault.


Sorry to hear about the dog Zulu :-(


I'm still leaving my vote on Afro for the moment but Laser has been attacking me ever since i did so, maybe the two are linked someway (in the game) and he's trying to deflect me away from Afro by attacking me.

No, i'm not  linked with afro... I admit I don't know for sure... it's  I just think I can judge him fairly well by know & somethings in his posts make me think he is town that's all ....

I voted for you cause it just seemed you 3 where just posting about each other when you were forced to move outside the bracket it just seemed you randomly picked on him I was just thinking it was easier than going for say axeman (just for example) who in my mind up to that time had seemed a lot more dodgey.

I do agree about a  deadline though ... then the person with the majority goes ... most people have been contributing fairly well & where still no nearer ... I think that those who have not voted should asap ... If today is ever going to come to an end then we all need to vote....

I'm a bit sus of those who have not voted yet.... only a couple of people I think .. if I'm not wrong tp & masterzulu ?

Masterzulu now you have reappeared ... who do you find sus?
 


 

[MASTERZULU]

vote TP

My vote is going with TP. He was so sure miasg and TCH we're mafia. And now it turns out that there is a good chance miasg is town Tp has understandably backed down.  This leads me to believe he is mafia and was going for an early rush to eliminate at least one of his work colleages.

Hope that makes sense posting on Happys site is difficult on the Iphone.

[Mikeblue]

Unvote MasterZulu and vote TCH

Now that masterzulu has showed up with his explanation I will cut him some slack.

I'm voting for TCH as he has gone very  quiet since MIASG role claimed and has even backed off TP. It just stinks to me. I think before he knew he could post whatever and it was just going to be considered as the "usual Aussie stuff that was going on" now however with the role claim he has started to be much more careful with his posts and these posts are a lot less.

Just stinks of Mafia play to me!

[laserblue]

any chance of an updated vote count .. I know there was one done recently, but theres been a bit of movement since then.

[Mikeblue]

any chance of an updated vote count .. I know there was one done recently, but theres been a bit of movement since then.

Vote count
3 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue, Mikeblue)
2 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony ( YorkshireBlue, Masterzulu)
2 - StevenRyalls (Wesman, Sir Hammer)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals,)
1 – Afroboy (TCH)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)
1 - Wesman (Bluestars)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)

I think that right

[stevenryals]

My idea to end day one is to lynch the most suspect person. Steven suggested an idea which seemed quite opportunistic, and misguided in trying to quickly get Miasg to pick someone, which would leave us with no info if the pick was town, and in bad position for day two. I'm actually going to vote for him now to put some pressure on him to respond since my FOS hasn't.

no.  obviously you're in favor of manipulating what I said.  The idea was to give someone enough power to force quality reactions from people as it's not working for us yet.  most are sitting back and waiting and it's useless.  I never said we should just follow MIASG's vote, the idea is to give someone that most agree are town, and give them ultimate power.  When someone who has that ability asks questions of you, you would most certainly react differently than if just one vote hung in the balance.  sorry you are having difficulty understanding such a complicated matter.. 

[stevenryals]

I was already suspicious of you bluestars and these two posts makes me think that even more. At the moment for me wes isn't one of the most sus people, also I didn't go on about you not being around. I did say you weren't posting as much as usual but i feel you have twisted my words. For me you are looking very suspect in the way you post, i do understand the reasons for lack of posting but it's what you're posting that i Vote bluestars for.

this is just tit for tat afroboy, i expect more from you..

[stevenryals]

YB is a tough cookie to crack..  he's played this way every game I've seen him in.. 
he's been more active in this day than ever..  So to me that means he probably has a good role..  we know MIASG is probably JB, so there is only 1 or 2 other power roles in the game that I feel are good enough to make Yorkshireblue get more involved... just not sure if it's his role thats brought him out, or if he's just bored??  he's very confusing, and I can never tell who or what he is in these games....
wonder if he's ever had a powerful mafia role (ie not just a mafia member)... if not, then maybe that's the secret..  but I cant remember what roles he had and dont have time today to look.. if nobody else has figured it out, I'll go back tomorrow during work and see what I can find..

[hippo]

Sorry for being absent over the weekend, it was quite a messy one. Had a quick scan (will have a proper read and post, later in the afternoon) and people seem to be saying YB isn't suspicious? Bizarre.

He accused MIASG and voted to start with, fair enough. But then after he'd been outed as Bauer, he came back on, apologised for his original poor reason for voting, but rather than altering his vote, he just changed the reason to something else. THEN, when he was told this was suspicious, he removed it. How can that possibly NOT be seen as dodgy?

I agree about TCH's activity since all of the early shenanigans. Seems like he's consciously taken a step back from the game to get out of the limelight. I'm not including the time he's said he wouldn't be on for in that either, the reduction of involvement started way before that. Like i said earlier in the game, his over the top reaction at the start seemed to be one of sheer annoyance that a plan to lay low had been ruined by Trick Pony's accusation. Coupled with the whole episode where he explicitly pointed out who MIASG was, he looks dodgy to me. I know MIASG shouldn't have said what he did, but there's no way you should be then adding emphasis to it, just to make sure absolutely everyone knows.

Anyway, i'll have a better read soon. A lot seems to have happened.

2 posts since i started.

I never said we should just follow MIASG's vote, the idea is to give someone that most agree are town, and give them ultimate power. 

Hmm..

I do believe his role claim so his vote will sway mine..  so that's two, and mike if you're in, that's 3 votes.. 

all we need is 8 to make the lynch..

we must remember though, that mafia will get involved in this so we cant say that those who follow miasg's lead are town.. 

This post definitely indicates to me that you were just planning to follow whatever MIASG did, if everyone agreed to your plan?

3 posts now.

[stevenryals]

MIASG had already voted.. the idea was not to just jump on his vote.. why is this so hard for you to understand?  This day is getting tired.. I know hammer doesnt mind.. but I DO..  i'm getting bored with it.. a deadline is needed, I suggested making last friday the "unofficial" deadline.. that didnt work, so I tried to suggest something that would get this day moving..  TCH has deadlines in his games, they move quickly, and they're a lot of fun..  Usually I'm dead before the 2nd day starts, but it's more fun.. this is just dragging, and I dont have time to work and read 20 pages of posts... 


Axeman is very quite, I've got my vote on him, but that's not brought him out of hiding...

[bluestarsneyes]

well...not much posting this week so far....seems to me that the point of the game dragging might be making it's own point.

Hippo, I think that steven was simply saying what a few of us others have been saying....let's find a way to get day one progressing...many aren't even bothering to vote and haven't even really done any fosing...so the point is that a few of us...probably all townies sit here and post and accuse each other while mafia are probably active enough to simply appear interested....I was not a fan of the idea of miasg picking the person to lynch but I think the idea was that he would have final say of what the majority were thinking...and considering he's made a claim, no one has refuted that claim...well I'm inclined to feel as if at this point on day one there is no reason to not trust miasg as well...sure there could be a crazy twist...but at this point....I'm sorry I'm getting sort of bored with going on and on...but if that is what the majority want to do...then fine...I'm not fighting over it...I just think that making day one progress and getting a deadline of at least a two weeks per day is reasonable.

that being said...afroboy I am not following what you are saying about what I am posting...I feel I had a right to respond when being called out by wes for something out of my control and you come along right after it was concluded I was in training and say you still think I'm suspicious for lack of posting...now you are saying it's what I'm posting...what have I posted is giving you trouble because I am not following..

zulu...really sorry for your loss.

for the record I am not going to defend YB....I think some have misread my thoughts..I don't know his role...but someone mentioned that his posting style is different...well I felt that compared to other games when he puts one line and then offers not even so much as a word additional is annoying and drives me nuts..and yes miasg his post about the spacing was crap...but I think he admitted to that and well...whatever I'm not defending him because I don't know if he's town or not...but I was just adding my thoughts.

hammerbro...are you still here...don't recall seeming much of worth coming in as of late from you.

[wesmancity]

Right im going back to my first vote, i can not see any time for the day to end and this might speed things up a bit. Im going to unvote StevenRyals and Vote TCH. I think the mafia are playing a good game and its difficult to find them as i think they are the quiet ones. Maybe if we pull TCH for his first reaction it might start them sweating a little

[*Afroboy*]

I agree now that there should be a deadline put in place for before or at the end of the week

this is just tit for tat afroboy, i expect more from you..

It was not "tit for tat". I said her comments on other players also strengthened my reasons. Also I had talked about her being suspicious before the vote and her posts so no it wasn't "tit for tat". And Bluestars also says….

that being said...afroboy I am not following what you are saying about what I am posting...I feel I had a right to respond when being called out by wes for something out of my control and you come along right after it was concluded I was in training and say you still think I'm suspicious for lack of posting...now you are saying it's what I'm posting...what have I posted is giving you trouble because I am not following..

Now if you see my last post….

I was already suspicious of you bluestars and these two posts makes me think that even more. At the moment for me wes isn't one of the most sus people, also I didn't go on about you not being around. I did say you weren't posting as much as usual but i feel you have twisted my words. For me you are looking very suspect in the way you post, i do understand the reasons for lack of posting but it's what you're posting that i Vote bluestars for.

I clearly say I understand the reasons for lack of posting, completely against what you’re saying. Twisting my posts again. I know I say earlier you’re not posting as much as usual but that’s because when you have come on earlier you have made a few posts with not much in.

And talk about tit for tat voting!!!! It’s on a major scale with bluestars vote but you don’t bring that up do you steve!! The pair of you look so evil! If I wasn’t voting for bluestars it would be you steve.

[bluestarsneyes]

What?? How is me giving my opinion on players suspect??? I'm asking you to tell me what CONTENT in my posts is suspect...what I'm confused about is what CONTENT you say you find suspicious...I get the other part now....so for now UNVOTE AFROBOY I'd like to hear what you have to say because honestly you are just confusing me. I'm not twisting anything you aren't being clear to me....or maybe I'm lost...either way...what have I stated that you disagree with...maybe that's a better way to find out what you are on about...and tell me I'm twisting things...hell I can't even figure out what you are saying in the first place!