Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

[laserblue]

Bl**dy h*ll  who's corkey

is someone going to enlighten me then ?

[MIASG]

Bl**dy h*ll  who's corkey

 I dunno but he get's it .. Steven says he's a retard .. but this isn't helping anyone ..

only thing I can add since my last post is to StevenRyals .. I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO AND YOU BELIEVED HIM  

and to Wes - this is how Hippo play's  - you say you don't lie but you would if your mafia.

[stevenryals]

only thing I can add since my last post is to StevenRyals .. I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO AND YOU BELIEVED HIM  

for a couple days I can understand.. but we're over a week into it and he's still on about TCH... 

TCH may in fact be mafia... but who's to know one way or another if TP is just going to have a go at him either way..  he's not picking anything out.. just fighting and blah blah'ing...   it's getting tired to be honest..

[i2i Killer 89]

Vote count
3 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue, Hippo, MiasG)
3 – Trick Pony (TCH, Bluestars, StevenRyals)
2 – TCH (Wesmancity, Trick Pony)
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch

[Quig]

Trick pony seems to be a man with a big vendetta. Best to just ignore him and hope he goes away. Or force him to go away via lynch if no one reveals themself as evil. For now Unvote: Trick Pony.

Vote: MIASG for his claim that isn't a claim. He seems to be trying to claim to be a good town role without actually coming out and saying it. Bit silly really.

[laserblue]

ok ... looks like I'll never discover who this corkey geezer is & what he's got to do with the game

..... I think it would be good for the game if tp (the other aussies as well .. but mainly tp ) try to focus on the other players in the game...... what are your thoughts on the rest of us?

masterzulu if your not on & at least try to put some thoughts on the board by tonight .. my votes for you ... it could be you've been busy if so let us know? at the mo I can only take it that your hiding cause you don't want to give yourself away?

wes we know you suspect tch but do you suspect anyone else?

yorkshire you have developed a style that is good for you, just the same if your evil or town but it does not help the town if your good because your playing the same way you do when your evil. makes you look suspect?

[stevenryals]

I would like everyone to consider the following..

MIASG knew there were a few characters that had been in all seasons and they were all good..   so he makes a broad claim so as to not ruffle feathers...
the only drawback is that most have attributed the main character to him... but he responded to that saying "i didnt say that" and then re-stated the fact that it could be one of many..  why ?  why not say "thats not me" and stick it there... is it because he knows there is a real Kiefer Southerland out there and he doesnt want to get caught out...

Unvote TP..  I will simply ignore him from here on out..  I'd rather get rid of him because he's disrupting the game and making it more difficult for us to determine who's who..  but nobody else is willing to say that and vote him out..  whatever..  he gets my ignore button..

I've watched all the 24's except this coming season, which is a season ahead of the UK I believe..  and there are always cast changes, but the main few seem to always be there..  like the presidents body guard.. keifer southerland, the brainy redhead...  

My character is a character that has NOT been in all the episodes..  is that a claim?  no it leaves too broad of a spectrum to be considered anything but a fact..  

just a thought to consider..  I've taken MIASG's claim like most others did..  but it should be thought out instead of just assuming..

[yorkshire blue]

VOTE YORKSHIRBLUE for voting for the most bizare reasons ever and only taking his vote off me after it was pointed out he's still voting for a probable town .. just quietly your not having or had a stroke are you?

is it me or does that make no sense ok i voted you and made a mistake but what does the last bit mean
isnt everyone a probable town
tp i know im not helping town alot but your really not helping at all please look away from tch and miasg. every post you mention them

[stevenryals]

isnt everyone a probable town

the opposite is true in my eyes..

[MASTERZULU]

masterzulu if your not on & at least try to put some thoughts on the board by tonight .. my votes for you ... it could be you've been busy if so let us know? at the mo I can only take it that your hiding cause you don't want to give yourself away?

I'm not gonna give any lame excuses just havent found the time to get on here, so sorry 'bout that.

Bloody hell you guys are making my head spin lol, been a few days since I last got the time to have a good read and there's quite a bit to go through, looks like a lot more productive posts than the first few pages.

The way in the last couple of pages that TCH and MAISG have had a bit of a go at each other stands out a little for me, since the start of the game they have been sort of seen as being associated, and now we have a little flare up between them, is this a tactic to distance themselves from each other? Is TP right? or is he just gunning after them for personal reasons? I'm leaning towards the latter at the moment, but that doesn't help one bit sort out who's who.

On the whole TP situation, He may have a personal vendetta against TCH and MAISG, who have both voted for him, will the mafia use these 2 votes as a spring board to lynch a townie? He also has a Vote from Bluestars, be interesting to see who else votes for him if anyone.

Everyone else is under my radar at the moment need to do a bit more back reading.

Sorry if the above is a bit disjointed, i'm a bit tired and just wanted to jot down my thoughts.

[MIASG]

OK then I'm Jack Bauer .. I have absolutely no idea who anybody else is  .. StevenRyals and HammerBro I know for a fact that you are not Jack Bauer - and you aren't claiming to be either - or are you ! 

.. do you think I put TP up to all his shit for me to make a mistake that was pointed out by TCH  get real - if at the end of this game if I am mafia then I should be banned from playing mafia in the future as that would mean I've talked about how I'm goingto play outside this thread - same with the other 2

.... questioning me on who I am seems like a complete waste - but that's becuase I know who I am .. my task is to figure out who people might be but to also confuse the mafia as to what night action they will take .. pretty obvious I thought

Hammerbro to unvote TP and vote for me is lacking some sense of what's gone on .. why forget about him?  you basically saying he can play his own game and cruise through ??  I'm not saying his is mafia but he sure as hell isn't helping town .. a fact that can't be disputed.  Steven same thing .. he's hasn't done anything that's contributed to the town (and in a way forced me to do the same  ) but the town has no idea what he is and you both want to give him a free ride  what's up with that !

Steven I've posted about what lead me to make the statement about being in every series - and what a mistake that ended up being ..

MIASG knew there were a few characters that had been in all seasons and they were all good..   so he makes a broad claim so as to not ruffle feathers...
the only drawback is that most have attributed the main character to him... but he responded to that saying "i didnt say that" and then re-stated the fact that it could be one of many..  why ?  why not say "thats not me" and stick it there... is it because he knows there is a real Kiefer Southerland out there and he doesnt want to get caught out...

I've watched all the 24's except this coming season, which is a season ahead of the UK I believe..  and there are always cast changes, but the main few seem to always be there..  like the presidents body guard.. keifer southerland, the brainy redhead...  

My character is a character that has NOT been in all the episodes..  is that a claim?  no it leaves too broad of a spectrum to be considered anything but a fact..  

your 2nd paragraph is pretty much what I was thinking .. your 3rd paragrah is just saying your not jack .. and your not I am.  Yeah no one else has come out and said it .. and no one will .. I'm not going to mod kill myself that would be an ever bigger mistake .. all i was trying to do for the rest of the town was to say look I'm a town - could be important - lay off me and help find the mafia .. it hasn't backfired on me totally as everyone now knows who I am ..  Also I should clarify an earlier statement of mine part being

although I haven't claimed to be anyone specific you can't fake role claim it's in the rules - which you never read.  If anyone has put the town in a bad situation it's a direct result of your stupid playing .. accusing the same people for no reason but 100% believing it and then go hiding and say your helping the town .. please

self-indulgent player = 

Yes after reading the rules I've realised I made a mistake and there is nothing in the rules about role claiming it was that you can't fake a message from the mod .. whilst I realise it makes hammerbro's and Steven's claims plausable I can't do much more to convince anyone.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

well there we go not much you can say about the above post.

What i am about to post i have checked with the Cman and he said it was ok. I've deliberated about posting it for a while but it might help people focus on other players or not depending on how you interpret it.

I've mentioned that i am sure that TP has a power role of sorts either town or maifa as when before the game started i asked him if he had received his role and he grinned and said "i just hope i'm not on the same side as miasg"

This to me this means one of two things, he's mafia and misag will be killed at his first opportunity or he is a townine with powers to kill and miasg was dead at the first night phase. With Miasg now coming out it now makes me TP's no 1 target i would say.

I would think as mafia you would know who your other partners in crime are so i think say he is more likely to be a town role ??

If he is a town player it has been mentioned by many people his style of play does not help the game and hence i voted for him as i would rather he be gone and focus on playing the game properly. However with miasg outing himself and TP likely to be a town then i feel we need to start looking at other players apart from TP and myself to lynch.

So i'm giving TP a chance to start playing the game properly and unvote Trick Pony If he persits in his normal style i will happily vote him back just to get him out of the game.

Of course TP could have spun me a line, but i think not.

Out of who's left i think the US contingent seem good so it's in the UK where i believe the evil is lurking. So i'm going to vote Afroboy You are not really contributing and trying to catch a free ride into day 2. Your input to the game is similar to me past games when you had an evil role. So come out and defend yourself.

Lastly Laser i don't know who Corky or Corkey is either, i only remember Korky the Cat from the Dandy.

[MIASG]

OK so you voted for him and targeted him and all along you suspect he is prob town ?? your right in that if he was mafia he would know other mafia (unless the 2 mafia theory is correct and they don't know each other - damn) I would have thought as town that is information that should have been shared long before now .. why sit on it for this long ?  you had already alluded he had given signs before hand .. I guess it was before curriemans 1st offical post so it's not really discussing anything outside the thread - is it? guess not or currie would have mod killed your ass ..

just proves he's after me no matter what but also tried to implicate you as well .. really to me since it's been left so long it doesn't have the impact it could or should have had earlier .. I doubt he'll deny it as he says that before every game.   So we really haven't moved forward with this too much either.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

no point mentioning it as if you were mafia then no harm done if you die, but with role claiming then it makes no point not mentioning it to stop people looking to vote townies.

This is why now the first lynch is quite important to try and snag a mafia member as some roles are already known.

[Trick Pony]

well there we go not much you can say about the above post.

What i am about to post i have checked with the Cman and he said it was ok. I've deliberated about posting it for a while but it might help people focus on other players or not depending on how you interpret it.

I've mentioned that i am sure that TP has a power role of sorts either town or maifa as when before the game started i asked him if he had received his role and he grinned and said "i just hope i'm not on the same side as miasg"

This to me this means one of two things, he's mafia and misag will be killed at his first opportunity or he is a townine with powers to kill and miasg was dead at the first night phase. With Miasg now coming out it now makes me TP's no 1 target i would say.

I would think as mafia you would know who your other partners in crime are so i think say he is more likely to be a town role ??

If he is a town player it has been mentioned by many people his style of play does not help the game and hence i voted for him as i would rather he be gone and focus on playing the game properly. However with miasg outing himself and TP likely to be a town then i feel we need to start looking at other players apart from TP and myself to lynch.

So i'm giving TP a chance to start playing the game properly and unvote Trick Pony If he persits in his normal style i will happily vote him back just to get him out of the game.

Of course TP could have spun me a line, but i think not.

Out of who's left i think the US contingent seem good so it's in the UK where i believe the evil is lurking. So i'm going to vote Afroboy You are not really contributing and trying to catch a free ride into day 2. Your input to the game is similar to me past games when you had an evil role. So come out and defend yourself.

Lastly Laser i don't know who Corky or Corkey is either, i only remember Korky the Cat from the Dandy.

That was yay before the game even started TCH, in general conversation so if I get mod killed for that so should you...

Also why does everyone keep saying that I just focus on TCH and MIASG, fair enough at the start but iv commented on others... get over it. Ill play how I want to, if everyone played the same boring style the game would be sh@t, and you cant say that after all this aussie talk that we havent gotten anything out of it.

Look at whos come out defending who ... some aliances have formed etc.  If I didnt target someone from that start of the day we still wouldnt know whos who, we know half of what we know now... and importantly who to save now so if their is a doc save MIASG, he maybe lying at worst case but as no one can contest it why would you vote him out now... just doent make sence to me Hammerbro...

wow did TP just mention another player again ... OMG he broken the focus aussie circle again  

OK so you voted for him and targeted him and all along you suspect he is prob town ?? your right in that if he was mafia he would know other mafia (unless the 2 mafia theory is correct and they don't know each other - damn) I would have thought as town that is information that should have been shared long before now .. why sit on it for this long ?  you had already alluded he had given signs before hand .. I guess it was before curriemans 1st offical post so it's not really discussing anything outside the thread - is it? guess not or currie would have mod killed your ass ..

just proves he's after me no matter what but also tried to implicate you as well .. really to me since it's been left so long it doesn't have the impact it could or should have had earlier .. I doubt he'll deny it as he says that before every game.   So we really haven't moved forward with this too much either.

that is a bit sus TCH, why suspect me being town then try get votes on me  not helping the town

I want to hear from wes, laser, and all of the other quiet people come on guys post a response on your thoughts on all players, not just one from the previous post, as slip ups/ important comments get lost

[MIASG]

no point mentioning it as if you were mafia then no harm done if you die, but with role claiming then it makes no point not mentioning it to stop people looking to vote townies.

This is why now the first lynch is quite important to try and snag a mafia member as some roles are already known.

fair enough but it doesn't make you town or mafia .. and really only helps to clear TP slightly .. although his posts seem to bring him right back into calculations .. (can't believe you took that long to write that TP  now do some work before you post again.)

but what does the last bit mean

your posts seemed so erratic so I thought you might have suffered a stroke    I still don't think you have truelly explained why the vote was for me with any rational thought but you have admitted you made a mistake but still only after a few posts against you.    your posts so far - post 1 light hearted banter to FOS Mikeblue, 2nd - have a go at aussies and not vote for now, post 3 - vote me for line spacing, 4th - after my slip up you say it reenforces your vote, 5th - unvote me after others posts, your last post in which you agree your not helping town much.  5 posts that give me no reason to unvote you and think your town. 

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

that is a bit sus TCH, why suspect me being town then try get votes on me  not helping the town

as i've mentioned in countless posts your style/agenda does not help the game and i wasn't sure you were not mafia and if it came down to you or me as you were making it then i'd prefer you to get lynched.

[Trick Pony]

as i've mentioned in countless posts your style/agenda does not help the game and i wasn't sure you were not mafia and if it came down to you or me as you were making it then i'd prefer you to get lynched.

great so all three of us are townies ... its never happened so far, it could happen though I still dont trust you TCH... I think MIASG is who he said he is though you could still be either mafia or townie, id say mafia still . I will Unvote:TCH for now and review all posts again tonight.

Yorky come out and respond to the questions ...

[stevenryals]

OK then I'm Jack Bauer .. I have absolutely no idea who anybody else is  .. StevenRyals and HammerBro I know for a fact that you are not Jack Bauer - and you aren't claiming to be either - or are you ! 

.. do you think I put TP up to all his shit for me to make a mistake that was pointed out by TCH  get real - if at the end of this game if I am mafia then I should be banned from playing mafia in the future as that would mean I've talked about how I'm goingto play outside this thread - same with the other 2

.... questioning me on who I am seems like a complete waste - but that's becuase I know who I am .. my task is to figure out who people might be but to also confuse the mafia as to what night action they will take .. pretty obvious I thought

Hammerbro to unvote TP and vote for me is lacking some sense of what's gone on .. why forget about him?  you basically saying he can play his own game and cruise through ??  I'm not saying his is mafia but he sure as hell isn't helping town .. a fact that can't be disputed.  Steven same thing .. he's hasn't done anything that's contributed to the town (and in a way forced me to do the same  ) but the town has no idea what he is and you both want to give him a free ride  what's up with that !

Steven I've posted about what lead me to make the statement about being in every series - and what a mistake that ended up being ..
 your 2nd paragraph is pretty much what I was thinking .. your 3rd paragrah is just saying your not jack .. and your not I am.  Yeah no one else has come out and said it .. and no one will .. I'm not going to mod kill myself that would be an ever bigger mistake .. all i was trying to do for the rest of the town was to say look I'm a town - could be important - lay off me and help find the mafia .. it hasn't backfired on me totally as everyone now knows who I am ..  Also I should clarify an earlier statement of mine part being  Yes after reading the rules I've realised I made a mistake and there is nothing in the rules about role claiming it was that you can't fake a message from the mod .. whilst I realise it makes hammerbro's and Steven's claims plausable I can't do much more to convince anyone.

are you a complete idiot?  you had the opportunity to have a go at me, casting doubt on your claim... and cast doubt into mafia's eyes as to what your role is..  I left if at your doorstep, but you didnt pick it up.. would have helped you out had you thought things through..  :/

[MIASG]

no what I got out of your post was you putting doubt against my claim and giving TP a free ride to day 2 .. I'm trying to help the town by hopefully getting them to focus on finding out who the non-townies are - instead of going around in cirlce's

TCH pretty much told everyone I was down to 2 possible roles since I claimed I've been in every series.  As I said I before the mafia will either try to take me down or go at others .. and it'll possibly at there peril .. I'm the only person who has claimed anything so far apart from the usual "i'm 100% townie" which is usually what everyone claims anyway..   if I didn't claim I'd still be high on people list just for all the shit.

Wes you say you never lie .. then answer this .. ARE YOU TOWN ?


hammerbro, Afroboy, Wesmancity, Yorkshire Blue, Masterzulu you need to come out and play .. not just post and say "yeah that looks suss" and disappear  - I think theres at least 2 mafia in this crowd

Hammer I thought you were back?  could have fooled me ..

Mikeblue - gone quiet ?

TCH still don't know ifyour trying to help us or not

StevenRyals my inclination is your on the side of good

Bluestars - all I know is your not mason or mafia with TP .. I think you hate him now as much as I do

laserblue - not sure - but at least your trying to play

Hippo - the king of control.  Never one to post alot and waste alot of words (like me  ).  Might be good .. but I thought that last game it it got me killed.

Trick Pony - you don't deserve to make it through to day 2 by ignoring you .. it's hard to think your good when you had a pre-meditated strike against me .. at least you didn't deny the claim.   Why couldn't all 3 of us be townies?  65-70% (guestamate) of us are probably townies tool ..