Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

[wesmancity]

Wait. What happened to carefully thought out and explained voting? If i didn't know better, i'd say you were voting for the first person you saw accused of anything. That's not really in keeping with what you said would be best for the town is it?

my reason was this.

FOS TCH, keep reading this and what keeps going threw my head is this:

Why react in that way?
if youre town then you would laugh it off. Only a person with a interesting role would surely react like that.

Im gonna keep a close eye on your post from now on i really dont trust you.

is that ok for you

[stevenryals]

my reason was this.

is that ok for you

But nothing happened between the time you posted that and the time you voted for TCH..??  what' pushed you from FOS to a Vote?

[wesmancity]

But nothing happened between the time you posted that and the time you voted for TCH..??  what' pushed you from FOS to a Vote?

Nobody else has caught my attention other than him. Why do i need to go over lines and lines of bullshit just to get my point accross?. Hes raised my susspisions for reacting the way he did and if i wait any longer people will start accusing me of not posting. IF and its a big IF anybody else comes under my suspission list I shall unvote him and vote them or if i decide i made an error i shal retract.

[stevenryals]

sorry, but i dont see why he was on your suspicion list with an FOS, then after you point out how we should be careful in voting people.. you then vote for him under the same circumstances..  seems like a contradiction..

[wesmancity]

sorry, but i dont see why he was on your suspicion list with an FOS, then after you point out how we should be careful in voting people.. you then vote for him under the same circumstances..  seems like a contradiction..

Yep to be honest i see what you are saying i did say that.

[MIASG]

Eh?

Obviously we should do the first bit. That wasn't really the point. I was just highlighting the inconsistencies between what Wes said we should do (the first quote), and what he has actually done himself (the second quote).

  I get it - I just thought it was dramatic .. possibly trying to hard to be town

[Mikeblue]

masterzulu....I know but remember Day one is a guessing game by all anyway...just try to keep involved...at least on a daily basis is what most suggest...although I will admit at times when a day on the calendar leads to 10 pages of dribble...it does get a bit much..that being said.

I was intrigued at someone saying something about a townie role that might change without their knowledge based off of the 24 character....I don't know if we have that role in the game or not, but that would be a real challenge! Even if there was such a character it would be impossible for us to know or that person...so to me to guestimate on that type of character is well...pointless on day one.

For town roles...I'm not sure based off of 24 if there will be as many townies with what I would consider extraordinary powers...I would assume a cop role of some sort....and a doctor as those are character roles that are common in these games and aren't out of the ordinary in a show like 24...that being said...I wouldn't expect a bulletproof townie this time around as that is well...not something in real life and 24 seems real life based(okay maybe a bit hyper action packed terrorist over the top...but real life, no super powers or fantasy like we were dealing with in Lord of the rings and the other animated thing).  I would have to assume the most important character in the series to protect would be Jack....that being said...as townies the best bet on protecting our most valued townie is if you suspect someone of being Jack is to not call attention to it as that will simply alert mafia as we saw in previous games. But that's my two cents for now.

I think Miasg and Hippo just confused each other...lol...focus I think you are confusing one another and basically saying the same thing! This is a long day one so far....maybe as townies we should try to create our own timeline...I would hate to see this game drag on with days lasting three and four weeks...I think it is hard to keep interest. I think day one is always long...but after that I think creating a self imposed attempt at getting a lynch at least once a week is a good thing..I might be wrong...but I think the games drag a bit if we drag out the weeks with pages upon pages and no voting.
That's just my opinion...take it for what you wish....as for now I'm off for the day.

Good post. I'm with you on that.

My vote stands on Yorky.

[laserblue]

I think bluestars idea of trying to put some kind of deadline on the day is the only way forward .....
There are less people playing this time & no newbs Except zulu who has played one game before , most  people are a bit wiser & have developed a style of playing & are mainly sticking to it, so it's pretty impossible to pick someone out....only mike has really changed his game so far & I can understand that cause he's got hammered at the begining of other games.

so any body any ideas on setting a deadline..?

other than that yorkshire pointing out someone was putting gaps in between

there lines was pretty lame & wes advising us to have caution on voting then

having a spell of suspecting people at the drop of a hat are things that stick

out for me ... but not enough to make me vote for them.

after the last game is bluestars trying desperatley to go back to her previous style of playing... I don't know?

but like i said her idea of having a deadline seems a good one?

[MIASG]

FOS laserblue for spacing 

To me wanting a deadline is only helping he mafia get to the night phase .. day one is and should be the longest day .. what's the rush?  alot of people are hiding and we'll be no better off on day 2 and beyond .. question people and get them on is the only way to progress today ..
I think Happy hasn't done much (as usual on day 1) .. afroboy came on and just agreed with others and disapeared again .. zulu is new but not saying much .. TP started alot of shit and then vanished.  Hammerbro also isn't doing enough in my mind .. this is not to say I suspect you of being evil just you need to contribute so the rest of us don't feel like we have to keep this rolling.  Even TCH is now quiet but I suspect that's to get him off the radar as posters seem to be the flavour of the moment. 

Yorkshire apart from the spacing why is your vote still on me?  I'd like to know why   

On the theory of 2 or more mafia cells we really won't know for a day or 2 if this is the case.  Idle speculation at the moment. 

On the theory that your role will change - I think it's highly unlikely uless your recruited - different mod and all - just a quick question to whoever was gandalf and strider in LOTR (can't be arsed looking it up) - did you know if you died at night your character would change?  and even if they changed they didn't swap sides. 

[laserblue]

FOS laserblue for spacing 

To me wanting a deadline is only helping he mafia get to the night phase .. day one is and should be the longest day .. what's the rush?  alot of people are hiding and we'll be no better off on day 2 and beyond .. question people and get them on is the only way to progress today ..
I think Happy hasn't done much (as usual on day 1) .. afroboy came on and just agreed with others and disapeared again .. zulu is new but not saying much .. TP started alot of shit and then vanished.  Hammerbro also isn't doing enough in my mind .. this is not to say I suspect you of being evil just you need to contribute so the rest of us don't feel like we have to keep this rolling.  Even TCH is now quiet but I suspect that's to get him off the radar as posters seem to be the flavour of the moment. 

Yorkshire apart from the spacing why is your vote still on me?  I'd like to know why   

On the theory of 2 or more mafia cells we really won't know for a day or 2 if this is the case.  Idle speculation at the moment. 

On the theory that your role will change - I think it's highly unlikely uless your recruited - different mod and all - just a quick question to whoever was gandalf and strider in LOTR (can't be arsed looking it up) - did you know if you died at night your character would change?  and even if they changed they didn't swap sides. 

I was waiting for that ...as soon as I said a deadline would be a good idea some one else comes on & says that's a mafia tactic.... I can see the logic but I don't want this game to fade out as the last one did a bit... also when peeps get bored & stop contributing it helps the evil ones hide away...

ok you say what is needed is some accusing so here's my idea's ... I hope other players follow & list there suspicions....

fos mike blue, yorkshire & trick pony ... the reason cause they have all reverted back into playing up petty squabbles that they started in previous games it shows there not really trying to work out what's really going on in this game it's just to much of an easy way out ... what do you think about the rest of the peeps playing the game....

other things I think are that tommy has gone quiet since he was put in the spotlight .

& hammer & hammerbro (especially hammer who said he did not like peeps not contributing) are too quiet

masterzulu get involved

I still think a deadline would be good to keep the game going.

[*Afroboy*]

Hi people, sorry I havn’t been on for a bit, I couldn’t get on most of yesterday and last night though so I’ve just been reading through and catching up now.

Afroboy-you are a kid so your interest in the game fluctuates...and the fact I know your age and stage of life I give you a pass most times...lol! that being said...so far not posting much content...but you are posting and giving opinions even if I can't per say follow the thinking....but for now...I don't see anything too much as not enough posting to determine anything.

I couldn’t have worded this longer if i tried! And as for my thoughts on bluestars so far I have no major suspicions.

Don't think there is any point really speculating at this point about potential mafias groups. All we should know is that probably roughly a quarter of us playing are some sort of baddies, and that could even be well off. Shouldn't rule out a cult, as fundamentalist muslim terrorists seem to recruit people so thats a possibility.

(Sorry for early inactiveness. Back and kicking now)

Also I love how people always say I'm a good player at this, when to my memory i've never done anything decent in the whole history of Axeman mafia aside from my valiant attempts to set up some rules in the kingmaker game, and my ultimately wrong idea that Bluestars had made some freudian slip in a game.

This is a decent post and sums up my feelings mainly, however accuseing people is the only way forward. Eventually someone will slip up. Steven or Bluestars tradionally make a list of peoples post countsm so when they do that I think they should also count "worthwhile" posts. That should flush out those who are posting alot, but saying little. It's those we have to look out for.

This post is complete garbage, for a start when did everyone start saying you were a good mafia player

Also you said that “accusing people is the only way forward”, well if everyone was like you so far we wouldn’t get anywhere as you say this yet put no accusations in your post!!

And then you say about bluestars and steve should do a “worthwhile” post count, if you wanted one to find anything out you should try to do one yourself and not leave all the dirty work to others.

Vote Hammer

[Mikeblue]

FOS laserblue for spacing 

To me wanting a deadline is only helping he mafia get to the night phase .. day one is and should be the longest day .. what's the rush?  alot of people are hiding and we'll be no better off on day 2 and beyond .. question people and get them on is the only way to progress today ..
I think Happy hasn't done much (as usual on day 1) .. afroboy came on and just agreed with others and disapeared again .. zulu is new but not saying much .. TP started alot of shit and then vanished.  Hammerbro also isn't doing enough in my mind .. this is not to say I suspect you of being evil just you need to contribute so the rest of us don't feel like we have to keep this rolling.  Even TCH is now quiet but I suspect that's to get him off the radar as posters seem to be the flavour of the moment. 

Yorkshire apart from the spacing why is your vote still on me?  I'd like to know why   

On the theory of 2 or more mafia cells we really won't know for a day or 2 if this is the case.  Idle speculation at the moment. 

On the theory that your role will change - I think it's highly unlikely uless your recruited - different mod and all - just a quick question to whoever was gandalf and strider in LOTR (can't be arsed looking it up) - did you know if you died at night your character would change?  and even if they changed they didn't swap sides. 

I was Strider in LOTR and I knew about the role change before the game. Only problem was that it was only if I got killed in the night phase and if I got lynched I died there and then. The rest is history....best role ever and never got to play it!

[MIASG]

thanks for that mikeblue .. still not sure if currieman would add that to this game as it's a different set of circumstances

[Sir Villain]

Hi people, sorry I havn’t been on for a bit, I couldn’t get on most of yesterday and last night though so I’ve just been reading through and catching up now.
I couldn’t have worded this longer if i tried! And as for my thoughts on bluestars so far I have no major suspicions.
This post is complete garbage, for a start when did everyone start saying you were a good mafia player

Also you said that “accusing people is the only way forward”, well if everyone was like you so far we wouldn’t get anywhere as you say this yet put no accusations in your post!!

And then you say about bluestars and steve should do a “worthwhile” post count, if you wanted one to find anything out you should try to do one yourself and not leave all the dirty work to others.

Vote Hammer

Didn't say they should, just saying they normally do one. I'm not ordering around anyone.

Also i'm not one to come out accusing in my first post for pointless reasons like a few do. I like to give a few reads of a post before flying into conclusions.

As for my relative inactivity, its been my enrolment week, at Uni and since thats out the way, I can get properly involved again.

Your whole post seems like its an attempt to cast suspiscion on me early like im a threat.
Fos:Afroboy

Later today I'll have come up with some thoughts, however you picking on me when I already have a few votes on my for inactivity stinks of opportunism, and I think it should be noted by the others.

[*Afroboy*]

Didn't say they should, just saying they normally do one. I'm not ordering around anyone.
 

Fair enough on this point.

Also i'm not one to come out accusing in my first post for pointless reasons like a few do. I like to give a few reads of a post before flying into conclusions.

I didn’t say you should make pointless accusations, there is a lot in the game to comment on and so far in two posts all you have done is answered me, the way I see it is don’t post garbage and your first post to me was mostly garbage.

Your whole post seems like its an attempt to cast suspiscion on me early like im a threat.
Fos:Afroboy

Well spotted… My post was me thinking you were suspicious and I do see you as a threat so I told everyone else what I thought so they could see that… Now if I’m not mistaken challenging people like this is a main part of the game!

Later today I'll have come up with some thoughts, however you picking on me when I already have a few votes on my for inactivity stinks of opportunism, and I think it should be noted by the others.

Of course I’m going to pick on you if I think your one and only post looks very suspicious and as for opportunism, I’m voting for completely separate reasons, there votes have nothing to do with it.

[Sir Villain]

Of course I’m going to pick on you if I think your one and only post looks very suspicious and as for opportunism, I’m voting for completely separate reasons, there votes have nothing to do with it.

Very convenient. It's easy just to say your voting for different reasons. I don''t know your true intentions yet, I just hope your just misguided. You picked on my post, perhaps noticing I had the most votes and maybe tryed to bandwagon a lynch.
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Miasg, Trick Pony and Tommy are all still involved in there work-based shenanigans. To me they all look dodgy, but this little nugget caught my eye.

well the easiest way to stop it is get rid of the instigator. Miasg and myself do not carry on against one another in this or the last game, there is one common denominator. It spoils it for us as much as for you. So if you don't like it vote him off you won't have any objections from me.
Otherwise TP can try playing the game and cast suspicions on other people.

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when hammer modded the last game he got really pissed of with peeps who did not post & now he is doing the same thing .... 

And predominantly I got annoyed with people taking the piss out of the effort I went through to set up the game, by just whingeing about deadlines, and then modkilling themselves. I've been inactive for roughly 4 days since I didn't know the game started, and had a very busy week in terms of Uni. Not making excuses, just explaining why I was gone, and that now I am back fully.

[Quig]

Unvote: Sir hammer since he has now arrived and posted. Still unsure on who to actually vote for but i think that miasg is acting a bit suspect.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

I was waiting for that ...as soon as I said a deadline would be a good idea some one else comes on & says that's a mafia tactic.... I can see the logic but I don't want this game to fade out as the last one did a bit... also when peeps get bored & stop contributing it helps the evil ones hide away...

other things I think are that tommy has gone quiet since he was put in the spotlight .

I still think a deadline would be good to keep the game going.

I don't mind if we have a deadline, i suppose i liked them in my games so don't mind if we impose one or not. We have i think only 2 votes at current as the leading vote getter, myself and miasg ?? So a long way off the 8 required. If we haven't got anywhere by the end of next week i'd hope we might consider it.

Well it was the weekend Laser so posting does tend to be a bit less.

Not much has happened though over the weekend that i can make out, or no glaring mistakes or errors that i have picked up on.

Hammer what in my post that you quoted caught your eye ? Can you elabourate

[stevenryals]

Unvote: Sir hammer since he has now arrived and posted. Still unsure on who to actually vote for but i think that miasg is acting a bit suspect.

My vote is on MIASG, I think he's evil..  end of..  read back through and notice my points on the previous page.. I think he's slipped and my vote will stay on him unless something happens to 1) make me think otherwise  or 2) someone else makes a glaring mistake...

MIASG basically accepted my vote and moved on as to not cause any stir about himself.. and it's worked, nobody else is putting pressure on him..

[bluestarsneyes]

Trying to catch up on posting to the predictions league scoring...I'll come back and post in a few...just didn't want the whole...she's online and hasn't posted...blah blah blah to start...so just saying....give me a few.