Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

[Trick Pony]

Okay, this paragraph bothers me. If you break it down a bit, the sentences and what they're saying read like this:

- TP has a power role
- If it was a townie power role, it wouldn't be a good idea to accuse the mafia as you'd become a target.
- Accusing MIASG and TCH seems "foolish".
- Then the usual thing about "deflection" and added emphasis of the "Trick Pony always accuses me" thing.

It just doesn't sit right. Those first three points look dodgy. Why is it foolish? Unless you're actually telling us that you are mafia and Trick Pony has become a prime target, as you imply.

And this one bothers me too. It just doesn't make sense. It starts with yet more emphasis about why we shouldn't take anything Trick Pony says seriously. And then warns people that if he's on "your" side, that he's not a team player. Now, if by "your", he means the mafia.. why the hell is he caring whether the mafia are working well as a team or not? And if he means the town, why has he said "your" and not "our", as he surely would if he was a townie himself?

Love the pickup here hippo, TCH it look like you have "foolishly" given yourself away ... along with MIASG if you are proven mafia.

[Trick Pony]

I dunno what to make of it cause I do understand where THC (sorry TCH) is coming from

..... I think last game he was town & comited suicide so that didn't help his team.

the game before he was mafia with me & yorks, we where the only 3 left & he dobbed us in cause we didn,t stick up for him when the town where on to him... making sure his team didn't win.

no matter whether he is on the same team as miasg & now tommy he always goes for them cause he likes winding up his workmates.

I am also a bit worried about how steve is cosying up to you?



I am not saying that neither of them will turn out to be evil but I don't think you can read to much in to this at the mo.

Defending possible mafia team mates here laserblue ?

FOS TCH, MIASG, Laserblue 

[Trick Pony]

well that only confirms to me he's not a normal townie - he's probably a mafia terrorist bomber again    if he could go off at anytime he would have went off on his first post .. and he knows it as he tells me before every game that's what he'll do. 

He's ie   is off sick today so he might still remain silent for a while. 

sorry to disapoint you MIASG    what does any of that have to do with this game ? TCH has no idea what my role is and your a sheep for following him, play your own game, iv already said the last game was crap because of the lack of modding and that it, just because you died doesnt mean i got bored from that, i got bored because the last game went around in circles for 3 months. That issue is over so get over it... Stop trying to focus my new role on the last game etc because you have nothing to pin on me, I put a bit of presure on you and TCH and then you both form a group and target me, which looks to have back fired on at least one or both of you.... I love getting this game moving as everyone like to sit back, i dont care if I get killed early i will take a hit for the team to get a town win 

[Trick Pony]

Forgot to mention VOTE : TCH 

[yorkshire blue]

wow you think I'm teaming up with TP  what so I vote for him to make me look like I'm really having a go at him for posting shit about me early on where it has been argued that he just has an agenda at going for me .. as for TCH his actions appear to be backing me up more than mine for him .. why I don't know.  As I said before he's sick of the shit that TP slings our way.  My votes still on him because he doesn't care about if he's good or bad he's just after the Aussies - so it doesn't help anyone really .. after all he did modkill himself becuase we were out and he was "bored" and because I still think he slipped up early on and is for me the leading non-townie.  He hasn't really done anything else since to what I think convinces me or anyone of his "innocence".

TCH why are you so sure TP has a "power role" ?

Hippo I'm not too sure about .. he makes a good point but after knowing he was bad last game and how he convinced everyone of certain "facts" it just scares me slighly that he could be mafia again.  but it does makes sense FOS TCH

Afro seems to be agreeing with things too easily - makes me think your not thinking for yourself or following team members ..

Bluestars - sorry to hear about the crash and the sympathy should see you get through a day or 2 .. hopefully though you can put something in every now and then ..

Laser - funny stuff 

Everyone else is neither here nor there still .. but it is early days.

i like the way you put a line between every sentence to make it look like youve posted alot. in the post above you go after one person again and who is it your workmate tch then to make your own post look big you throw in some crap at the bottom of it which does not help at all. there is also laserblue in that list what do u think of him apart from funny stuff.
vote miasg

[Quig]

Well, the usual first day shenanigans. No real solid arguments or anything. Most people blabberin and voting for personal reasons that come from outside the game. I'll poke my brother to come post but until then, Vote: Sir Hammer for not posting.

[Trick Pony]

i like the way you put a line between every sentence to make it look like youve posted alot. in the post above you go after one person again and who is it your workmate tch then to make your own post look big you throw in some crap at the bottom of it which does not help at all. there is also laserblue in that list what do u think of him apart from funny stuff.
vote miasg

  read like a book MIASG

[laserblue]

Defending possible mafia team mates here laserblue ?

FOS TCH, MIASG, Laserblue 

no...... if you'd read it properly .... instead of just skimming......you would know that nowhere in my posts have I defended TCH & Miasg

.... SO Don't make things up & attribute them to me cause your to lazy to read my posts.. so heres what I said  you play your own game & are not a team player

I am a bit suspicious of yorkshire & mike though...... Mike has usually got more involved by now & york always manages to make himself look bad which I think he is doing again.

Not much of an imput from masterzulu & bluestars although bluestars has given an excuse oh & hamer needs to get involved

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

sorry to disapoint you MIASG    what does any of that have to do with this game ? TCH has no idea what my role is and your a sheep for following him, play your own game, iv already said the last game was crap because of the lack of modding and that it, just because you died doesnt mean i got bored from that, i got bored because the last game went around in circles for 3 months. That issue is over so get over it... Stop trying to focus my new role on the last game etc because you have nothing to pin on me, I put a bit of presure on you and TCH and then you both form a group and target me, which looks to have back fired on at least one or both of you.... I love getting this game moving as everyone like to sit back, i dont care if I get killed early i will take a hit for the team to get a town win 

your right i have no idea what your role is but i'm convinced it's a role other than a normal townie by your reaction when i asked you i've you'd received it. Do you want to deny it ? Your lucky i haven't posted your comment as i don't think it would help you.

that combined with your outright lie in your first post is enough to get my vote, your continued attacks and trying to link miasg and myself together strikes me now as desperation to deflect from your glaring mistake.

I notice also that you quoted Hippo's post trying to incriminate me but neglected to mention the post before yours from hippo where he says

So i guess, he's either genuinely annoyed by Trick Pony and suspicious of him, or he's consciously decided to calm himself down a bit so as not to attract suspicion. From the way MIASG reacts every game, i'm leaning towards the first.

so yes Hippo you are correct on the first assumption

[Trick Pony]

no...... if you'd read it properly .... instead of just skimming......you would know that nowhere in my posts have I defended TCH & Miasg

.... SO Don't make things up & attribute them to me cause your to lazy to read my posts.. so heres what I said  you play your own game & are not a team player

I am a bit suspicious of yorkshire & mike though...... Mike has usually got more involved by now & york always manages to make himself look bad which I think he is doing again.

Not much of an imput from masterzulu & bluestars although bluestars has given an excuse oh & hamer needs to get involved

  skimming !!! if I skimmed I wouldnt have picked this up ...

[laserblue]

when hammer modded the last game he got really pissed of with peeps who did not post & now he is doing the same thing .... 

[MIASG]

i like the way you put a line between every sentence to make it look like youve posted alot. in the post above you go after one person again and who is it your workmate tch then to make your own post look big you throw in some crap at the bottom of it which does not help at all. there is also laserblue in that list what do u think of him apart from funny stuff.vote miasg

I put spaces to make it easier for you to read - which I didn't do this time .. I didn't mention alot of other people as well - his posts made me laugh because he seemed so meddled .. I've no read on him as yet.  or on you if it interests you - which you didn't seem to care about.  Which workmate (and post) are you alluding that I went after?  TCH or TP ? I'd rather not get involved in the sematics with him anymore but my vote stands because I still think he fucked up early on and has done nothing to change my mind.  And no one else has presented themselves to me as more deserving of my vote.  In saying that I agree with Hippo and Steve (and I did state this in previous games) that I'd rather vote for a non posting player in the hopes of getting them in otherwise the game dies when all your left with is 1 post per player once a week ..

[stevenryals]

TrickPony, he's playing erratically, pressuring on the smallest of points, and sometimes no point at all..  If he was mafia I dont think he'd be doing this.  He's now gone after his aussies & added laserblue to the list... although misguided, and sometimes a bit silly, he is making somethings happen which will help in day 2,3,4 etc... He's too far out there to be anything of worth for either side I believe..  I think he's a normal townie trying to make the most of his role..

Yorkshireblue however, has come on, posted a quick blurb and voted for MIASG which may not be a bad vote.. but his reasons are silly..  "you put spaces between your lines??"?  what the F(@*#*?? I dont see what's

wrong with that?

Why cant there be extra lines?  Makes

it easier to read.. 


TCH, you are using his reaction like I did with mophead..  the big difference is , TP is a grown man, an adult who can control his reactions (at least I think so...),... mophead is a child who is very easy to read...  it could be something, but he could just be winding you up, which seems to be what he enjoys most...

Mike has been more active on day 1 previously, but I believe that he's adapted his game accordingly. If I remember correctly, he's been under major pressure for slipups the first day every game he's played, good, evil... no matter, he always gets caught out on something.. so seems his new plan is to sit back and wait for the night phase to pass and then pick up his play..  FOS Mikeblue   This could be a sign of a role that has forced this change.  keep an eye on mikeblue.

Masterzulu is wasting....

Hammerbro has voted his brother, told him to get on and post, and der hammer hasn't showed up..  either hammer couldnt be arsed to play at this point, or hammerbro is setting him up for a lynch..  keep that in mind if der hammer doesnt show up, and turns out to be town..  I would put full blame on hammerbro..

[Mikeblue]

Don't know how I have curved my game to be honest?

I have posted at least once every day? The only difference this time is I haven't been pounced on from all corners as in past games. Therefore I have not had to spend all of day one defending myself for a change.

As I have said in previous posts there is not much to go on in day 1 and it is prodominatly a pot luck guess. Not many people have actually placed a vote as of yet, so we seem to be a long way from a lynch yet. Am I correct in thinking that there is no deadline and it is the same as the last game and only a majority vote will cause the day to end???

The first day is stacked in the Mafia's favour as they can try and pick up on anything anyone says and it will be considered as there is nothing else to go on. I am not looking into people deflecting and taking sides as such at the moment as if anyone agrees with something someone says, people turn it into them taking sides which just is not the case if you agree with one thing someone says. Anything said in day one is met with a comment of so and so is deflecting and so and so seem to making an allegence.

The down under tit for tat thing that goes on most games....... for me this is best left alone for now until there is some more convincing evidence found to support a theory as its 50 50 whether there is anything behind it all as far as I'm concerned.

The only person that has stood out to me for anything so far is Yorkshireblue for this post ...

i like the way you put a line between every sentence to make it look like youve posted alot. in the post above you go after one person again and who is it your workmate tch then to make your own post look big you throw in some crap at the bottom of it which does not help at all. there is also laserblue in that list what do u think of him apart from funny stuff.
vote miasg

.....I mean what the fuck is that??? Last game he was town though, when I was convinced he was evil after going after me so bad, so maybe he is just doing the same again but for now I am going to vote Yorkshireblue as he is the one that strikes me the most at this moment in time.

[bluestarsneyes]

* I am posting my thoughts which were based off of all that I read on the beginning of page 5...however there seems to be a full page of 5 now and I've not had a chance to look at them...I will post my thoughts at this point*

Good Lord...taken me almost an hour and half to read all the posts in the game so far. I must agree it is a typical day one with lots of dribble back and forth...but hey at least most of the folks are posting and active in the game. I do apologize for my absence yesterday....it was a complete shat day all together!
(notice no spacing as not to appear evil for you, yorkshire... ) I have read through the game and I do think that a few things are noticeable but it's hard because after a few games some folks just automatically in my mind appear either mafia or completely insane! But I'll offer my opinions so far...

Mikeblue-I think he's here and posting offering up his opinions, I agree with him that day one is almost always a guess with little evidence really and we do somehow almost always kill our own townie on day one. His game style has changed because I think he actually likes to play the game and he and steven were getting killed off day one for being so active....easy mafia targets...lol...so he's posting and involved I so no point in voting for someone for that at this point.
TCH-he did get aggressive with TP but I think he's another player that wants to play the game and gets killed off early and is probably annoyed at TP for going after him right away. I don't think at this point on day one someone getting defensive is a true indication of evil...but might rather be an desire to stay in the game...could be wrong....moderators sometimes make the best mafia because they understand the game so well and have been able to see behind the scene how everyone plays in all roles...but at this point it is day one and I think he was truly just pissed off at TP for going at him so early for what he felt was weak accusations.
Sir Hammer-I think at this point my FOS would have to be on Hammer...he's a great smart player and really got annoyed with us last game that it went on too long...can't blame that on me as I was killed off so early...lol...eithe r way though...I'm inclined to suspect him for not posting because that is always his biggest gripe...however to not be on at all makes me inclined to think he has internet problems again. So I'll not vote for him until we figure something out solid first.
MiasG-I think in real life he's ready to rip TP's head off...lol! Miasg is one that I am really horrible at determining..he's a good player and is very consistent in his play one game to the next...and he's always annoyed by TP...it's like his little annoying brother...but at this point...what TP has posted on him doesn't really make any sense to me. He's active and playing the game...he's annoyed that TP is going so hard at him..but at this point..it's typical TP/Miasg battle and I can't make out much of him at this point.
StevenRyals-I am always inclined to not say much about steven as we live together...lol...th at being said...I think he's involved in the game...but trying to not stick out as he loves playing this game and he gets really annoyed getting killed off so early....evil or townie he plays an active game...so at this point...I don't think I notice anything particularly either way at this point in the game
Hammerbro-not got much to say and comes on to say as much...but it is day one...and there were lots of pages of TP/TCH/Miasg and his vote to bring Hammer out seems to at least appear to me he wants the game to progress....and also tells me that it is possible hammer is avoiding posting...as if his internet or something was out....he might have offered that information to us in the game...so in not offering anything...it does make me a little more suspect of Sir Hammer's absence thus far in the game.
Happy Axeman-usual posting and not much to it...but like other players lays fairly low at first in the game...another player I am always complete crap at attempting to figure out....he is posting and offering opinions at this point and does not stick out in my mind as either way at this point....so..for now i don't know.
Hippo-probably the hardest player to figure out in all games...lol...and always attacks me...so I always assume he's evil...but what he does offer is winding people up and analysing every word they say...so at this point I have no clue on him..but do take time to read what he has to say because he is good at if nothing else..participating in the game and trying to get information for the game so that we don't just vote randomly...so I have no clue either way on him at this point in the game.
Trick Pony-of all the players I do agree with someone else that even if you were evil or townie I'm not sure I could make you out as you appear to always have another agenda...which makes me most times assume you are serial killer and on your own...but I think you have been going at Miasg and TCH because you can...and gets the game going....I don't buy your tactics and think you might very well be evil this time...but as for voting at this point for you...I don't see anything clearly postive in my mind...I just think by nature you are nuts...lol!!! But you are susing folks out in your typical way...so for that I am willing to let the day progress and see how I feel when more of the others post as I feel it has really been pages 1-5 if TP/TCH sissy fighting!
Laserblue-hahaha at steve's post to you...I was totally sober and got what you were on about...what does that say about my mental state..lol! Another good player that does a good job to get the game started but tries to not stick out in any real obvious way on day one....active in the game...attempting to offer what I feel is some good points...so for now...no clue and no reason to suspect of being particiularly evil or townie at this point.
Afroboy-you are a kid so your interest in the game fluctuates...and the fact I know your age and stage of life I give you a pass most times...lol! that being said...so far not posting much content...but you are posting and giving opinions even if I can't per say follow the thinking....but for now...I don't see anything too much as not enough posting to determine anything.
Wesmancity-hmmm...another one I for some reason have to say I kind of always feel is mafia...lol..but that is because of your posting style...so I would not vote for you as that would be unfair at this point...but a few of your oneliners seem very suspect...so my only thinking is to see how much more active you become in the game and judge by this game only. for now I don't know...for certain.
Yorkshire Blue-another oneliner poster and giving someone crap for not spacing...well this post all crammed together should give you a hint that is a bad excuse to suspect someone...lol! However...you are posting and for you even more than one sentence in some cases so honestly at this point...I ain't got a clue!
Masterzulu-unless I totally missed it...did he even post yet?? I might have but give me a break 5 pages to read...I just can't remember him saying anything...if he did...what page is it on...I posted all this big post and I don't see where he posted...I'll go back and look...but it obviously couldn't be much if I don't remember it...so at this point I fos any player not active or barely active with no reason at this point in the game.

[bluestarsneyes]

Just got back from a 2 day conference at the city of Manchester stadium, so I have been Reading when I can but not had time to post yet.

Not to familar with 24 but I'll try to catch up.

I see the fighting has started already, so let's get it on.

This is the only post I see from Masterzulu....he's said he'd post and yet never offered anything at this point...seems the post suspect thing I've seen thus far...FOS MASTERZULU

[bluestarsneyes]

FYI...spacing on people that post alot like me...probably necessary...I can't even read the book I just posted..lol!

Sorry about that folks... ...been delayed in participating...sor ry maybe I added too many thoughts.

I think on Day one there was some good discussions going on about the game itself and then it progressed into a sissy fight. Understanding the game in the past has helped townie to sus out evil...using what we know of the series to gather information. I thought that was a good way to start.

Miasg posted an idea about there possibly being two mafias....that idea didn't cross my mind until he said it...although could be possible I assume...but in 24 that season I don't recall there being two terrorist groups...so if we follow the series exactly I don't see that being a possiblity...but I feel that was something to notice..and worth mentioning...a good pick up if you ask me. I would be sort of inclined to think if there were two groups as suggested that they wouldn't both be mafia...but rather...one mafia and one cult. But I've not played enough games with a cult to really know if that idea is viable.

I have to think with the way 24 is so unexpected...I would think that a serial killer is really probably in this game...not sure who I think that character would be at the moment...but this series is so action packed...I'm inclined to think that we have alot of characters with powers in this game....just my thoughts.

[stevenryals]

bluestars, if you read the opening sequence from Currieman, you'll notice there were two attacks back to back in different parts of the USA, so that leads me to believe that there will be two groups who are evil in this game.  If there's a cult, it will be in addition to the two groups who are responsible for these aforementioned attacks.  lets say, 2 groups of 2 = 4, cult starts with 1, add a serial killer and a mafia leader that's 7 mafia..  which would make it completely unfair (i think anyway)...  so I think we're talking about 2 groups of 2 with a boss... that may be it... between sk & cult, i think only one would exist in this game to keep the numbers even.. 

[bluestarsneyes]

bluestars, if you read the opening sequence from Currieman, you'll notice there were two attacks back to back in different parts of the USA, so that leads me to believe that there will be two groups who are evil in this game.  If there's a cult, it will be in addition to the two groups who are responsible for these aforementioned attacks.  lets say, 2 groups of 2 = 4, cult starts with 1, add a serial killer and a mafia leader that's 7 mafia..  which would make it completely unfair (i think anyway)...  so I think we're talking about 2 groups of 2 with a boss... that may be it... between sk & cult, i think only one would exist in this game to keep the numbers even.. 

I am not sure what I think it could go either way....two separate groups...one assuming to be mafia...the other I still think it is possible to be a serial killer...the plane attack could simply be one person to do that type of attack...it didn't mention many details...but I'm just thinking based off of real attacks in the real world...one person could inflict a great deal of damage. That's why I thought it was possible to not assume two mafias...which seems sort of unlikely to me as I've not been in a game with it that way..but then again...keep us guessing no idea. If you keep it to one mafia, with what you said two members...and one serial killer...and then one cult leader to start...then that would be about typical numbers for mafia based on past games.
Then again the mafia could simply be four members and no cult and one serial killer (because somehow I think we have to have one....I've not played in a game I remember without one...I don't know that to be the case...but seems likely)...either way...one mafia group with four members could easily attack two targets...in the show the mafia was one group wasn't it...that did both attacks? It's been ages in the US since this season was on..so I can't really remember...

[MASTERZULU]

Righto, First of all sorry for being a little late to the party, been a busy week, only just had time to sit and have a proper read through all the posts, so thanks for not running me out of town staright away lol.

I've had a detailed read through everything so far and made some notes, nothing jumps out at me as of yet but i'm going to attempt to digest over tea what I've noted.

Will post back later this evening.