Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win

[Trick Pony]

Galadriel - hmmm - possible - plausable ..

Can you stop insulting people - you posts are the ones condridicting the next one, plus you've only really just copy and pasted your last post so apart from the name your not offering anything new.  We didn't waste 3 days you confused people with lies in posts and that's what taken the focus of the game ...

can you please re-write or explain your last paragraph ?  it makes no sense to me.  Are you saying for everyone to believe you and vote for me?  or to look into who voted for you ? or everyone waiting for a response is ok ?

and if you've had this important role why the FFFF have you not suss'd more people out?  do you get a response from the moderator if your actions are succesfull? or are you told if someone is guilty or not ?

I've pretty much told you who I am ..  I'd be surprised if anyone out there hasn't worked me out .. why are you still voting fo me ?

I never said everyone unvote me and vote you, and I do believe your innocent but as above I was trying to see peoples reactions from voting townies, because in previous games when an innocent was voted for the next vote on that person was mafia so I was trying to see how people act instead of how they post as the way people post is full of crap you cannot gather anything from them unless they slip up so you never really get anything from them. I know thats apart of the game I was trying something different.  Which is why I havent tried sussing more people out as I have been watch actions instead. And the repetition from the last post was for the people who just skim through instead of reading every post...

UNVOTE :MIASG 

Im not sure how we go about this now as im probably dead tonight, but I dont see how townies can afford to lynch me at this stage when there are still mafia in the game, so you work it out and ill look over the posts and vote for who I think is the most likley mafia member.

[hippo]

I'm gonna believe the Galadriel claim.. not 100%, because you've named someone that could easily not actually be in the game, but if they were, would fit the bill.

You say you'll be dead tonight, but not if you make an educated guess on who the godfather is. It's not me, MIASG, Yorkshire, Laser, Wes, Liverbird or yourself. That only leaves 4 people: Afroboy, Bluestars, Hammer, SVH.

If we lynch one of those today, then you'll have a 1 in 3 chance of blocking the right one tonight. 

I suggest of those 4, afroboy is the most likely to be mafia, but not sure about godfather. He's been on regularly, but is lying low, not wanting to get involved - waiting for the night phase. He wouldn't have wanted to get involved in the TP lynch, because he'd have known that the focus for the next day would be on those who'd voted for him. He has done the same every day, no real involvement at all.

vote afroboy

[wesmancity]

Just got to a computer,

Un vote Trick pony
Vote laserblue

sorry for the sudden post, back to moving *stressed*

[Steve Van Halen]

I'm gonna believe the Galadriel claim.. not 100%, because you've named someone that could easily not actually be in the game, but if they were, would fit the bill.

You say you'll be dead tonight, but not if you make an educated guess on who the godfather is. It's not me, MIASG, Yorkshire, Laser, Wes, Liverbird or yourself. That only leaves 4 people: Afroboy, Bluestars, Hammer, SVH.

If we lynch one of those today, then you'll have a 1 in 3 chance of blocking the right one tonight. 

I suggest of those 4, afroboy is the most likely to be mafia, but not sure about godfather. He's been on regularly, but is lying low, not wanting to get involved - waiting for the night phase. He wouldn't have wanted to get involved in the TP lynch, because he'd have known that the focus for the next day would be on those who'd voted for him. He has done the same every day, no real involvement at all.

vote afroboy

So why am I on your list then? If you read my posts earlier on you can see hints at who I am.

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Well you have just over 24 Hours to go, the current votes are


Trick Pony  3 Votes
AfroBoy      1 Vote
LaserBlue    1 Vote


Yet to vote

Afro, Laser, Hammer, SVH, Trick Pony and Yorkshire

[hippo]

So why am I on your list then? If you read my posts earlier on you can see hints at who I am.

You were on it because i couldn't remember you claiming anything, but i've been back and read through and found the stuff you're talking about.. so i'll take you off it. I'll give my reasoning for the people on the "not possibly godfather" list too..

Hippo: Well, i know that i'm not. And i think, by now, you all should too. But obviously i understand if people don't just trust me.
LaserBlue: Has been blocked
Liverbird: Entirely offline for the majority of the game. Certainly for at least one of the night phases entirely.
Miasg: Has claimed
SVH: Obvious who he is if you read his posts
Trick Pony: Claimed
Wesmancity: Claimed
Yorkshire Blue: Has been blocked

So that leaves:

AfroBoy: Easily the most viable lynch today.
Bluestars: This is the person i'd block tonight, if afroboy is lynched. If he's not, then go for afroboy. Although it's up to you obviously.
Sir Hammer: Seems innocent to me, and i have an idea of who he is. But he is decent at this, and while there's nothing concrete to rule him out of being the godfather, we shouldn't.

One of those three is the godfather, if what Trick Pony has said is true.

And because i may as well get all of my thoughts out there, here are my suggestions for scenarios based on different ones of those three being godfather. I'll let you know the reasons for these at the start of day four, if i make it.

IF it's afroboy, then the other two are fine, and the remaining mafia will be made up of either/both laserblue and liverbird.

IF it's hammer or bluestars, then the mafia will be made up of either/all afroboy, laserblue and liverbird. Won't be all three, but 1 or 2 of them, depending on numbers.

[hippo]

Should just clear up where i've said to block bluestars if afroboy is lynched. Don't block her if he's lynched and is the godfather, just if he's lynched and is eiher a nazgul or innocent. Because then it's just a choice between the two for godfatherness.

In my opinion, obviously. But it's backed up by a lot of facts.

[hippo]

Oh right yeah, and don't block Hammer if afroboy is the godfather either. Go for laserblue or liverbird in that case.

I really should proof read before i post..

[Sir Villain]

You were on it because i couldn't remember you claiming anything, but i've been back and read through and found the stuff you're talking about.. so i'll take you off it. I'll give my reasoning for the people on the "not possibly godfather" list too..

Hippo: Well, i know that i'm not. And i think, by now, you all should too. But obviously i understand if people don't just trust me.
LaserBlue: Has been blocked
Liverbird: Entirely offline for the majority of the game. Certainly for at least one of the night phases entirely.
Miasg: Has claimed
SVH: Obvious who he is if you read his posts
Trick Pony: Claimed
Wesmancity: Claimed
Yorkshire Blue: Has been blocked

So that leaves:

AfroBoy: Easily the most viable lynch today.
Bluestars: This is the person i'd block tonight, if afroboy is lynched. If he's not, then go for afroboy. Although it's up to you obviously.
Sir Hammer: Seems innocent to me, and i have an idea of who he is. But he is decent at this, and while there's nothing concrete to rule him out of being the godfather, we shouldn't.

One of those three is the godfather, if what Trick Pony has said is true.

And because i may as well get all of my thoughts out there, here are my suggestions for scenarios based on different ones of those three being godfather. I'll let you know the reasons for these at the start of day four, if i make it.

IF it's afroboy, then the other two are fine, and the remaining mafia will be made up of either/both laserblue and liverbird.

IF it's hammer or bluestars, then the mafia will be made up of either/all afroboy, laserblue and liverbird. Won't be all three, but 1 or 2 of them, depending on numbers.

Good call. I also will go along with the Gladriel claim for now since it sounds legit, but we just dont know. Afroboy seems a decent lynch today unless he can suggest otherwise, but I know if you roleblock me tonight [trick Pony] then if the mafia go for you, you will die. I am definitely one of the good guys.

Also remember to include Hippo in your list of potential roleblocks....we only have his word right now, no proof

yet I will back him on this one Vote:Afroboy

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Well you have just under 23 Hours to go, the current votes are


Trick Pony  3 Votes
AfroBoy      2 Votes
LaserBlue    1 Vote

Yet to vote

Afro, Laser, SVH, Trick Pony and Yorkshire

[MIASG]

UNVOTE TRICK PONY aka the

I'd better go back and read SVH's posts becuase I can't figure out who is is 

VOTE AFROBOY because he is on my list as well .. and appears a logical choice right now.

[MIASG]

right with you now 

[bluestarsneyes]

You travel late into the night and make camp in the woods when you reach them. Exhausted you all tumble into your bedrolls leaving Gimli on guard. You are awakend during the night by the screaming of the Nazgul again, they have surrounded the camp and Gimli is nowhere to been seen. All looks lost.
Suddenly the Elves of Lothlorien appear drive off the the Nazgul. You must hurry, our Queen Galadriel wants to see you. They will not follow you where we are going. You gather up your belongings and Gimli is still missing. Legolas finds himnot far from where he was on guard, he has been killed by a rock just like Merry was. Gimli was Footballnewb and part of Mason Group C



Not far from his body is another, that of Happy Axeman, it seems the Nazgul attacked him just after he finished of Gimli, as Happy Axeman was Gollum and the serial Killer




The Elves leave you no more time, with the Nazgul still around you must move and now. They take you into to the heart of Lothlorien when you spend several days resting and in consultation with the Lady Galadriel.
Finally you are ready to continue and the Elves give you some canoes to travel down the river Anduin and it is here that we start day three

Day 3 – From Lothlorien down the River Anduin   

There are now 11 of you left

AfroBoy
Bluestars
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Miasg
Sir Hammer
SVH
Trick Pony
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue

So it takes 6 votes to now cause a lynch. The time limit for Day three is till Midday Saturday UK time if no one is lynched before then.

Alright TP you gave us a name, but in other games we've seen folks roleclaim and turn out evil. I am confused by the name that you give because in the death of Footballnewb it states that we must leave to go meet with "Queen Galadriel"...my confusion is that if you were an active part in this game as the roleblocker with this character...why would we have to go "see" you...why would the roleblocker not be a character more along the lines of the doctor in like Aragon that would be with the group and protect Frodo?

It says above we must leave to go see the Queen, but then leave her to continue to travel on. I'm just confused as to how this character would be an active roleblocker in this game.

TP, how did you call me a mason and/or normal townie on one list...then I QUESTION your truthfulness and one page later I am mafia? You offer nothing to support it, simply change your mind with no explanation.

The other person you had as almost 50-50 townie was Hammer, he comes out with me to question you and then he's on your mafia list as well with no explanation.

I know you have roleclaimed, but you still should still explain yourself.

Something else that bothers me is that you state you "vote townies" to get a reaction....who does this? Does not even remotely make any sense that you would vote someone you consider townie to get a reaction? If you think they are townie and vote them, then it only gives the mafia a chance to bandwagon, confuse other townies and get an lynch.

[bluestarsneyes]

Should just clear up where i've said to block bluestars if afroboy is lynched. Don't block her if he's lynched and is the godfather, just if he's lynched and is eiher a nazgul or innocent. Because then it's just a choice between the two for godfatherness.

In my opinion, obviously. But it's backed up by a lot of facts.

Oh this one got me this morning....even before my coffee no less...because honestly I was sort of thinking hippo you might be the roleblocker...but when TP claimed it I was confused...then it became clear when I saw your listing...and your not so subtle crap posting here.

Since when in any game or this game have you said...it's backed up by facts and offered none? Or at least tried to save your own butt by posting something to tie me in as a godfather?
Why? Because it's completely illogical. I am not the godfather and nothing in so called "facts" back it up?

Voting Record=what person have I voted for that was innocent and got lynched? ZERO
FOS Record=what person have I FOS that has been innocent and lynched? ZERO

Now...let's look at the "facts" Hippo and those are on you.
Voting Record=
Hippo      FOS: MIASG   1 (says he's townie)
      vote: no lynch   2 (obviously has some mafia advantages)
      vote: Steve Van Halen   3 (appears to be townie)
      unvote: SVH   7 (ditto)
      vote: Yorkshire blue   7 (not sure but on most people's list probably townie)
      FOS bluestars   10 ()
      unvote: yorkshire   10 ()
      vote: SVH   10 ()
      Unvote SVH   12
      Vote Afroboy   12
      unvote afro   12
      vote SVH   12
      vote laserblue   14
      VOTE mophead   15 (evil)
      FOS laserblue   15 (claims to be townie)
      FOS bluestars   15
      unvote mophead   17 (BUT before the lynch he unvotes an evil to vote for laserblue)
      vote laserblue   17
      vote trickpony   25
      UNVOTE TrickPony   26
      Vote Afroboy   27

Now if we look at who voted or fos'd you and ends up DEAD

Hammersbro=votes for hippo....that night DEAD
Happy Axeman=votes for hippo....ends up DEAD
Steven Ryals=FOS's hippo and is not able to log back in to vote but ends up DEAD

Look say what you want Hippo I don't know your role...but you have to have one...but the "facts" as you state against me are pale if anything "godfather" like compared to your record.

It's not like you to just simply say....oh the facts add up and bring nothing to the table....something is not right...can't figure it out yet this morning, but it's just odd to me that all of the sudden you and TP are buddies and somehow me and a barely here afroboy and hammer end up on godfather listing.

Hippo you and TP like to throw around accusations...bring some of these so called "facts" for those on your list.

[MIASG]

So after repeating everything once again, I will highlight this for the skim readers among us, im not sure what I can say in reagards to being mod killed etc but im Galadriel an Elf the roleblocker if you dont know it look it up !

its an interesting thing that the Mod calls her Queen or the Lady Galadriel but TP only calls her Galadriel ..

yes why would be meeting someone on the way through .. what would have happened if he was lynched early ?  the story would make no sense at that juncture ..

I'm still uneasy with TP's quote "if you don't know it look it up" .. he's done nothing for the town .. he's put pressure on known townies and changed his view on things repeatedly .. bagged everyone for being stupid when it was him that lead us down a path ..

AARRGHHH ... maybe I thought him 1 too many things at work and he's trying to emulate me  

now do I follow the story and leave TP here?  I'm not convinced of his roleblocker use or choice either ..

Im not sure how we go about this now as im probably dead tonight, but I dont see how townies can afford to lynch me at this stage when there are still mafia in the game, so you work it out and ill look over the posts and vote for who I think is the most likley mafia member.

he also says "I don't see how townies can afford to lynch me at this stage" - too me that sounds like your not a townie but your telling mafia your ok now .. but we can afford to lynch you later ?


Afroboys been quiet yeah .. but so was footynewb and he was good .. you were quiet and you say you are good ..

UNVOTE AFROBOY as I need to think about it more .. I gotta say I'm not convinced about you TP and I have an uneasy feel in my guy about it ..

[MIASG]

LOL looking back I realise that if we had of voted no lynch on day 1 we may not have known who was who but we could have saved the doctor and been 1 fellowhip member up ..

actually it might make sense now - gollum is dead and the fellowship just have to have the ring on day 7

"If all the Hobbits are killed the ring then falls into the hands of one of the fellowship they can only hold the ring for one Day phase before it consumes them and they die during the night phase. If the Fellowship runs out of players Gollum claims the ring, he can carry the ring indefinitely without any ill effects. If Gollum is then killed then the Mafia win. If Gollum is dead before the last of the Fellowship are consumed by the ring then the Mafia win."

day 3 - no lynch
night 3 - 1 leaves 10
day 4 - no lynch
night 4 - 1 -leaves 9
day 5  - no lynch
night 5 - 1 - leaves 8
day 6 - no lynch
night 6 - 1 - leave 7
day 7 - no - win

so the fellowship has 9 .. 3 are gone .. 4 max to die - it's a no brainer 
but it would also take the fun out of the game  :'(

[hippo]

Since when in any game or this game have you said...it's backed up by facts and offered none? Or at least tried to save your own butt by posting something to tie me in as a godfather?
Why? Because it's completely illogical. I am not the godfather and nothing in so called "facts" back it up?

Okay, i'm gonna respond to this bizarre posting before i get on to the brilliance of the one that preceded it. If you read what i was saying, you'll know that you were only on that list because there was nothing concrete to rule you out. The facts that you seek are in the other list, where i've ruled people out of being the godfather - there are no facts to link either you or hammer to being godfather, hence why i've actually eliminated you in my mind and voted for the one remaining person on that list. I've actually offered the facts that you and hammer are definitely innocents if not the godfather. Work it out.

My whole post was entirely logical "if what Trick Pony has said is true", as i pointed out. Obviously some of the people shouldn't be ruled out if it's not, as you've pretty much proven. Laserblue is now also a possible godfather, and i think we've pretty much confirmed him as mafia if Trick Pony is evil. He tried to defend him earlier in the game, as i pointed out, and he tried to guarantee his safety today as well by stating that he'd blocked him.

unvote afroboy
Vote Trick Pony

Brilliant pick up on the Galadriel thing. Probably a game winner, well done. Some of us can acknowledge valid reasoning, despite the fact our own name has been mentioned you see 

[Steve Van Halen]

LOL looking back I realise that if we had of voted no lynch on day 1 we may not have known who was who but we could have saved the doctor and been 1 fellowhip member up ..

actually it might make sense now - gollum is dead and the fellowship just have to have the ring on day 7

"If all the Hobbits are killed the ring then falls into the hands of one of the fellowship they can only hold the ring for one Day phase before it consumes them and they die during the night phase. If the Fellowship runs out of players Gollum claims the ring, he can carry the ring indefinitely without any ill effects. If Gollum is then killed then the Mafia win. If Gollum is dead before the last of the Fellowship are consumed by the ring then the Mafia win."

day 3 - no lynch
night 3 - 1 leaves 10
day 4 - no lynch
night 4 - 1 -leaves 9
day 5  - no lynch
night 5 - 1 - leaves 8
day 6 - no lynch
night 6 - 1 - leave 7
day 7 - no - win

so the fellowship has 9 .. 3 are gone .. 4 max to die - it's a no brainer 
but it would also take the fun out of the game  :'(

That would only be if the doctor protected someone the mafia targeted every night though, whats the chances of that happening?

Trick Pony's mistakes have been clearly pointed out and look very iffy. if you are going to call a bluff at least get the story right.

Still not sure on you though hippo, you seem to believe some with little argument but not others.

[hippo]

That would only be if the doctor protected someone the mafia targeted every night though, whats the chances of that happening?

Nah, what he's saying doesn't rely on that, it includes us losing 1 per night. However, it doesn't really work as to get the automatic victory, we have to have a hobbit alive; not just one of the fellowship, and potentially they could all be killed off during the night phases we have left. But more importantly, it just wouldn't be a very satisfactory way to win. It'd be dull.

Still not sure on you though hippo, you seem to believe some with little argument but not others.

Like you told me to do with your early posts, read my very recent ones..

[bluestarsneyes]

Okay, i'm gonna respond to this bizarre posting before i get on to the brilliance of the one that preceded it. If you read what i was saying, you'll know that you were only on that list because there was nothing concrete to rule you out. The facts that you seek are in the other list, where i've ruled people out of being the godfather - there are no facts to link either you or hammer to being godfather, hence why i've actually eliminated you in my mind and voted for the one remaining person on that list. I've actually offered the facts that you and hammer are definitely innocents if not the godfather. Work it out.

My whole post was entirely logical "if what Trick Pony has said is true", as i pointed out. Obviously some of the people shouldn't be ruled out if it's not, as you've pretty much proven. Laserblue is now also a possible godfather, and i think we've pretty much confirmed him as mafia if Trick Pony is evil. He tried to defend him earlier in the game, as i pointed out, and he tried to guarantee his safety today as well by stating that he'd blocked him.

unvote afroboy
Vote Trick Pony

Brilliant pick up on the Galadriel thing. Probably a game winner, well done. Some of us can acknowledge valid reasoning, despite the fact our own name has been mentioned you see 

Like I said Hippo it was before my coffee and I was pretty nervous about you just accepting TP especially after all the really questionable things he totally avoided answering at all.

I am interested to see what others have to say at this point.