Mafia 12 : X-Men : Mafia Win

[Steve Van Halen]

to be honest all of us are targets that arent mafia. You could be on to something regarding the back to back votes but it could be a case of someone voting and it making sense for a brief moment so someone else who is online follows suit. This may not be an intentional bandwagon as you think but another player being sucked in

[MIASG]

I'm expecting a very late surge in votes ..  I think some of these fence sitters are most likely mafia and they aren't comitting until very late - in fact some have said nothing at all to date

[stevenryals]

Been reading back through...  There is one player who seemingly has slipped through without much problems...  and that's Mikeblue.. 

Vote Mikeblue

come out here...  you've not helped us much at all have you.  You got a little pressure early on, but since you've been silent.. 

[bluestarsneyes]

soz for not posting, ive been on a 3 day bender. lol

but to be honest its not quantity, its quality.
Ive seen lots of needless and pointless tit for tatter one line posts, 15 of them and youve increased your count lots falsifying a post count 

if you both have the same job, and you both earn £200 a week, but one puts in only 20 hours, yet the other 40 its not fair is it... what i'm saying is you need to do a word count. and discount needless drivel. 

I hate the first day, and you will see i often dont post a lot in the 1st day, you may as well pick straws(or find an internet equvalent!) and say your gonna die if you get the short one.
If i'm still alive after the 2nd day, thats when i start playing properly because I more often than not get targeted by everyone in the first 2 days because its my site. (trust me, I'm not making it up, its true. which is why i hate it when i'm a good role with power or an evil char, i would much rather be a townie(thank fuck) with no responsibility)

In the posts i have made, i have asked why mophead mentioned why xmen need guns in his post, yet he still hasnt answered my question. Bluestars answered saying it could be because of the smilie i used... maybe yeah, but why hasnt mophead answered it?

I also asked wes how i knew about SVH etc, yet the answer for me is still not satisfactory.

I'm wrecked out of my head at the mo, and the words are popping out of my screen. but i really do think Bluestars could be the Mumfather and Mophead her disciple. Maybe it could be a family thing, and mr ryals is in there 2. using StevenRyals own mathematics, one of them must be evil.

Afroboy, theres still something not quite right about you.
but for for now I'm gonna let him go, Unvote Afroboy

to me Yorkshire looks to be too much of an obvious target at the mo, maybe its true but it looks like he's getting lynched regardless of who i vote(i hope is evil).
VOTE Mophead.

okay sorry took me a minute to figure out what a mumfather was....had to read it out loud..lol! DUH! Um..for the record I am not the mumfather..lol...an d mophead is NOT with me...I think he's trying to get me killed...although he didn't vote for me...so I think he's just trying to be a twit and pick on me for kicks as being his mother...I mean look at what he posted on Mother's Day! GAH! and he was proud of it!

[bluestarsneyes]

It was from the following choice words that you have picked which kinda insinuates to me that your trying to start a bandwagon on him "He plays the same way every game, and it's tough to tell anything about him.. he seems very sus right now, but the last game he was the same way,... but he turned out to be evil.. I cant remember how he played when he was innocent..  so.. he's a tough egg to crack.. i think with a few votes he'll be forced to defend himself more soundly and maybe let us in to his persona more than what he is now.."

In perticular the bolded sections, that wording just doesnt seem right for a townie to make, I maybe wrong but thats how I read it.

well here is trickpony going after stevenryals and I was kind of thinking you two might be in kahoots with taking yorkshire off the block...but now I'm second guessing my thinking

[bluestarsneyes]

Firstly, lets look at who's on teh vote list for yorkshire blue... 

I voted first on page 10, then Wesmancity - Laserblue voted on page 11.. in quick succession might I add..  The back to back voting didnt make me feel very comfortable to say the least..

this back to back voting is a mafia tactic I believe to instigate a bandwaggon..

it seems afroboy fell for this, or joined with them on page 13...  Then mophead tries to vote for him on page 14..  again in somewhat quick succession.. only 4 or 5 posts between them..

then of course bluestars vote..

I just dont think that he's guilty this time around..  He's an easy target, he's playing the same game as he did last time around..  the quick back to back votes makes me think of bandwaggon..  especially when the votes are accompanied with little 15-20 word posts..  almost like they're trying to make thier vote slip of out view, so you just read right over it..

I'm just not sure at this point..

i'd like to hear more from SVH and Mikeblue in particular..
 

if anything it should make you NOT a target wouldnt you think..  ??

I literally JUST voted for yorkshireblue...I asked him to post more to defend his comments and instead of defending himself...he comes on and randomly votes for me based on something you said. he's not doing much to help himself out when he comes on and simply says...don't have much to post...she said she's town..vote for her...sorry doesn't cut it with me! It was like a sentence post and he's had nothing more to add... BUT...you are right it is exactly what he's done in the last game...came on because he wasn't posting and voted for me...however I said that before and got blasted for mentioning it....so either way...the voting for me is quite odd. But could be he's just annoyed with me for asking him to explain why he was getting on folks for fosing and not voting...another odd statement.

I TOTALLY agree with you that SVH and Mikeblue are quiet as a mouse...SVH has spoken up a bit...and Mikeblue...when was the last time he even posted???

[bluestarsneyes]

I'm expecting a very late surge in votes ..  I think some of these fence sitters are most likely mafia and they aren't comitting until very late - in fact some have said nothing at all to date

actually I'm very worried as well these late voters and people that have hardly posted coming on at the last minute to vote at the last minute...therefore not giving anyone the chance to defend themselves....all very suspect to me....some of you said you were waiting to vote...I have as well...however, to come on at the very last moment and vote then not allow anyone to ask you questions on your vote or give people the chance to defend themselves...well makes me nervous....but so it appears day one is going to go.

[stevenryals]

here's who's not voted yet..

Footballnewb, Mike Blue, SVH and Trick Pony  (according to the last count from TCH and the last page etc)

3 of these 4 I am suspicious of..   those who are voting for yorkshire (who's top of the list right now) make sure that's your choice and your not being convinced by anyone..  I dont see this turning out good for the town to be honest..  we'll know more after these 4 place thier votes tho.. should help us determine who's who in the next couple game days..

[wesmancity]

Not really sure what to add to this either. Still suspicious of wesmancity for his less than satisfactory explanation of his vote for me and the quote that went with it. I havent noticed anyone taking sides yet but this is due to them not being able to talk to each other yet.

When have i voted for you??, I can always change it to you if you want me to vote you!

[Steve Van Halen]

got a vote mixed up with an fos, easy mistake

[stevenryals]

3 hours left and 2 'guests' looking at this thread..  go on.. log in..  post..  dont wait around..  nothing to say??

[stevenryals]

wait no..  6 hours.. 

[laserblue]

just got back from work & glad to see a few people have been busy  

Steve your post about those voting for yorkshire ... It's easy to say look loads of people have voted shortly after each other ... but if you really look at it I was asking for Yorkshire to make an appearance way before I voted for him (& before you mentioned or voted for him... for the record) it's all there & can be checked I gave him several chances to say something for himself but he failed to do so.

also when I voted for yorkshire ..... Wes was voting for him at the same time he just pressed send before I did & there was no reason to change my mind. Yorks has hardly posted or helped out.. with no excuses.... people doing this ruin the game for everybody else.

you changed your vote to Mikeblue(by the way I agree he has had an easier ride this time) & call other people for staying with yorks ... but you don't really have anymore idea mike is guilty than Yorks,... only thing is I doubt Mike will get the votes required to get lynched so if yorks dies & turns out to be good you can say "oh those people who voted for him must be evil" but you are safe cause I doubt Mike will get it this time so we won't know.

I'm not saying I am right about yorks & your wrong about mike there are others that are a bit sus like masterzulu but as he is new I did not want to vote another new player off who turns out to be town...

How long have we got left .. there is a chance I will change my vote yet .... I would like to hear what mike has to say for himself & yorks.

on the whole I think it is better to vote on day one than not vote ... the reason I say this is ...

the odds are very much against us finding an evil player on day one so any votes are mostly random... Mafia know this so they can keep out of the voting & if the victim turns out to be good well they can say oh look those guys voted off someone good so they must be evil....

so what I am saying..... is that there could be something dodgey about those who have not voted & I'm also not certain yorks is evil or Mike but someone has to go.......

The gloves will be off next round so being either a new player, a youngster or to busy will not be an excuse.

[stevenryals]

I know what you're saying but I'm deciding between yorkshire & mikeblue..  I see yorkshire playing teh same way as he has in previous games...  stupid..    but I see mike blue has been away, quiet, and very much different than he was last game.. 

we're not going to have concrete evidence on day one..  so you're guess is as good as mine at this point.. I do feel a bit more confident with mikeblue than yorkshire tho..  but c'est la vie I guess..  we'll find out in 6 hours what's really going on..

it's too bad that TCH doesnt post who's voted for whom in this game.. would tidy things up and make it a bit easier (ahem.. *cough*).. 

in addition to Mikeblue, i find a few others quite sus.. like zulu, axeman, mophead, wesmancity, well.. to be honest.. most of you I find sus at the mo..  day one is crap  lol

so, I did a random number thing online, and used the list on page 2... I did 3 numbers, and it returned 1,9 & 11.  Afroboy, Mophead & Trick Pony..    lol    the internet knows all!!!!

[stevenryals]

wow... this really is confusing... and i'm not trying to hide behind any "im new" facade...
but i really have no idea who is what and what is who...

Just want to point out:   "i really have no idea who is what and what is who"...  this has caught my eye..  why would someone say this when obviously if you're innocent you'll have no idea of who's who unless you're a mason..  this seems like it could be overcompensation for the feeling that you have inside your evil guts..  read your roll again..  you DO know who's what and what's who..  dont you!!

i cant even remember what i am at this point in time   

i believe bluestars pointed this out early on..  it's very easy to remember "i'm good, i must find evil" ..

[*Afroboy*]

PAGE 10

I'm going to Vote Yorkshireblue, he's playing a very quiet game thus far..

okay this is a 13 word reason including all of it may not mean anything to you now but I will come back to it later, not a good explanation for voting I would say

PAGE 11

I think we give yorkshire about a day (in the real world lol) if he doesn't come then I feel even though there's possibility he's town he will get my vote cos there's no point in players not posting.

I said this before wesmancity and laser said this (both still on page 11 and in order)

I have now made my mind up that im going to VOTE Yorkshire Blue my reasons are this the aim of the game is to try to find out whos evil and whos not, Yes?. Now YB has fail to post not a lot and for me, how can you judge someone or like someone without really knowing them.

This is a 58 word reason including all of it

Right I've had enough of waiting on yorkshire now  ....if the guys not going to play then I might as well do him a favour & vote for him  vote Yorkshire

31 word reason including all of it but laser did give other reasons in earlier posts (check page 11).

PAGE 12 Yorkshire makes an appearance

afroboy i didnt vote you

bluestars is looking abit sus there was abit earlier in the game where she mentioned been town in the past but didnt say this game and stevenryals keeps making her slip up vote bluestarsneyes

1) I already explained that first line before this when someone questioned.
2) By voting bluestars it made me think he's more suspicious.

PAGE 13

Vote yorkshire for not much contribution at all apart from voting bluestars which i thinks weird. Also I'd like this game to be full of people who are posting very regular instead of ending up wid lots of ppl who don't post much at all.

45 word reason including all of it backing up waht I said earlier thta if I was not convinced I would vote yorkshire the next day and I did, I said this BEFORE laser and wes voted.

PAGE 14

Well i have made my mind to go with yorkiblue. And its not because he has more votes. Its because he isn't contributing to the game. And if he doesn't, we are going to be here forever waisting our time on one guy that wont post. So VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE

49 word reason including all of it a just about acceptable reason from mophead. and still on page 14...

and their reasoning is because I mentioned being town..which is an idea they got from stevenryals and I going back and forth...
VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE
for voting for me for something that wasn't even your idea...and for the fact you didn't even READ the rest of the going back and forth with Steven and I...your excuse to vote for me just seems a lame excuse to get me out of the game...

I MAJORLY cut down this post which gave countless more reasons in countless amounts of words. I think bluestars has every right to vote and gave good reason for it. still on PAGE 14....

Firstly, lets look at who's on teh vote list for yorkshire blue...

I voted first on page 10, then Wesmancity - Laserblue voted on page 11.. in quick succession might I add..  The back to back voting didnt make me feel very comfortable to say the least..

Actually laserblue gave reasons on page 11 before wes and him voted that he might vote.

it seems afroboy fell for this, or joined with them on page 13...  Then mophead tries to vote for him on page 14..  again in somewhat quick succession.. only 4 or 5 posts between them..
then of course bluestars vote..

I said I would vote for yorkshire the next day (see near the top of this post) on page 11 if he didn't make a good appearance and to me he didn't so you got that completely wrong.

the quick back to back votes makes me think of bandwaggon..  especially when the votes are accompanied with little 15-20 word posts..  almost like they're trying to make thier vote slip of out view, so you just read right over it..

Complete and utter trash, nearlly all this post was, this is why i put amount of words for the votes It is in fact YOU that only put 13 at the time, you obviouslyhave not looked thereasons properly at all cos there not 15-20 words unless you're talking about your own post.

[stevenryals]

Oh please lets not talk about word count.. seriously..  I'm the king of long posts!!!  Hippo and I could write a book!! 

Complete and utter trash, nearlly all this post was, this is why i put amount of words for the votes It is in fact YOU that only put 13 at the time, you obviouslyhave not looked thereasons properly at all cos there not 15-20 words unless you're talking about your own post.

Hopefully nobody will notice that you took this post (http://happyaxeman.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=9868.msg110734#msg110734) that has 294 words in it (if you count "lol" as a word) and cut out only 1 line from it, and tried to use that as ammunition..

nice try young man, not good enough though..

[laserblue]

It seems that we are the only one's on here at the mo

no one has come on & told me why I should not vote for yorks .. I have considered the alternatives but can't see anyone who stands out just minor things & have already said why peeps should vote so if nothing happens it looks like I stick with the vote.
Sorry yorks if you are innocent but you have done little to change my mind.

[stevenryals]

He's never going to do much to convince anyone otherwise..  that's how yorkshire plays.  Read back in other games.  I'm sticking with Mike because he's playing differently than last time around.

[stevenryals]

no.. football newb has been on for a while..  probably reading..  or maybe just hanging back and waiting on the deadline..