Mafia 11 - Tripping the Rift Mafia - Town WIN

[Mikeblue]

LAserblue this is for you!!!

I have just been going through from very early in the game and have noticed that you have only voted and FOS people that I would be inclined to thik are innocent. All game you have not voted for anyone I would consider suspicious and have never voted for anyone that has turned out to be evil.

Just a coincedence??? I think not??? Are you that bad and clueless at finding evil? I think not!

VERY VERY strong FOS

I really would not be suprised if you turned out to be evil!

You have admitidly agreed with some people suspicions at times but obviously you can't make it quite so blatant but to me if anyone cares to look back or bluestars if you fancy doing another table of peoples votes am sure a few IT WOULD RAISE A FEW EYEBROWS! And to me it looks quite blatant to be honest.

[hippo]

the people i thnk are evil are
laser blue, mike blue, miasg, steven ryals

Okay, i might be wrong, but i don't think yorkshire is the sort of player that would have named one of his fellow mafia as evil in a diversary tactic - i think what you see is what you get, and this is shown by the way he openly defended his own godfather, linking himself too easily. So from the list of 9, i'm going to scratch these off as possibles (for the mafia, not the SK).

It's also pretty obvious that bluestars is the other mason, by the way that it's been said by practically everyone, and nobody has opposed it. If she was not, the real mason would obviously have spoken up by now. So she's off the list.

I know who i am, and if you read my last post, you should really have been able to work it out, so i'm also taking my name off the list.

Mophead pointed out that SVH had called himself the mafia godfather, and i don't think anyone in the mafia would have actually done that. It could be stunning diversion tactics, but i don't think, from reading his posts (no offense) that this would have been the case.

So who are we left with?

Happy Axeman and Afroboy. Lynch one today, one of our roleblockers stops the other one tonight, while the other one stops mikeblue (just a hunch based on that quote about how it was "soooooooo easily..... gonna be a victory for the town"  or whatever it was). If someone dies tonight, clearly mikeblue's not the SK, but i'm fairly certain i'm right about who the mafia can possibly be. The only one who's a bit of a doubt for me is mophead, who could have been doing the diversion tactics, like i said.

[Mikeblue]

Okay, i might be wrong, but i don't think yorkshire is the sort of player that would have named one of his fellow mafia as evil in a diversary tactic - i think what you see is what you get, and this is shown by the way he openly defended his own godfather, linking himself too easily. So from the list of 9, i'm going to scratch these off as possibles (for the mafia, not the SK).

It's also pretty obvious that bluestars is the other mason, by the way that it's been said by practically everyone, and nobody has opposed it. If she was not, the real mason would obviously have spoken up by now. So she's off the list.

I know who i am, and if you read my last post, you should really have been able to work it out, so i'm also taking my name off the list.

Mophead pointed out that SVH had called himself the mafia godfather, and i don't think anyone in the mafia would have actually done that. It could be stunning diversion tactics, but i don't think, from reading his posts (no offense) that this would have been the case.

So who are we left with?

Happy Axeman and Afroboy. Lynch one today, one of our roleblockers stops the other one tonight, while the other one stops mikeblue (just a hunch based on that quote about how it was "soooooooo easily..... gonna be a victory for the town"  or whatever it was). If someone dies tonight, clearly mikeblue's not the SK, but i'm fairly certain i'm right about who the mafia can possibly be. The only one who's a bit of a doubt for me is mophead, who could have been doing the diversion tactics, like i said.

Intersting for you to say "one of our roleblockers" Is this admission of a role??? Could you have a role and know there is another from what you have done??? I am telling you now I am a townie so stop wasting your time on me and dig deeper for the real serial killer! When I made that comment it was obviously in jest, taunting the mafia after our succesful opening night when we managed to at least stop the mafia killing one of our own off. ( and yes I know we killed one of our own but I would still say it was a better outcome than it could have been!) I'm still not sure how the roleblocker and SK or whatever else works. And before you say read the rules I have again and agin but its still not 100% clear to me!

[laserblue]

LAserblue this is for you!!!

I have just been going through from very early in the game and have noticed that you have only voted and FOS people that I would be inclined to thik are innocent. All game you have not voted for anyone I would consider suspicious and have never voted for anyone that has turned out to be evil.

Just a coincedence??? I think not??? Are you that bad and clueless at finding evil? I think not!

VERY VERY strong FOS

I really would not be suprised if you turned out to be evil!

You have admitidly agreed with some people suspicions at times but obviously you can't make it quite so blatant but to me if anyone cares to look back or bluestars if you fancy doing another table of peoples votes am sure a few IT WOULD RAISE A FEW EYEBROWS! And to me it looks quite blatant to be honest.

THIS IS TO MIKEBLUE 

What!!!!!! I worked it out & voted for yorkshire first (when you were no where to be found ) & what do I get not thanks laser noooooooo I get you only vote for good guys ? not evil. I also voted for mophead so did just about everyone else at some time so thats your theory blown out of the water.

If you actually read my posts you would see I came up with the idea bluestars was the other mason & that yorkshire was evil

So this makes me think why would you get rid of the player that has actually worked things out for the good side ....

& here it is either you don't read my posts ...... you are not very good at this game ... or your evil .... so which is it?


FOS MIKEBLUE

I would also like a reply from Mike about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hippo]

Well alright, i am a roleblocker. I'll check my PM again if you require specifics of the name, but i'm the captain of the ship. I blocked Steve Van Halen both nights, and there were consequentially no mafia kills. I thought we had the game won as a result of this, because if we'd kept him alive, we could have stopped the mafia doing anything for the rest of the game, whilst picking off the other suspects.

If the other kill was by a vigilante, then they should claim now, because that's a pro-town role and i'm fairly confident that there'll only be 3 mafia in a game of 12.  If it's by a serial killer, than that person is somebody working alone to kill everyone off. I think the second is probably the more likely role.

But for there to have been no kills on night one, either that person got blocked, somebody got protected by a doctor, or they simply weren't around to get their night action in. So potentially, a townie knows who did the killing, and that would be pretty useful information to tell the rest of us. Effectively, it'd win us the game.

I'm very confident the mafia is Afroboy or Axeman, and like i've said, if someone also knows who the SK is, then that'd all but end the game.

[hippo]

Chode McBLob was the name i couldn't remember.

[laserblue]

Okay, i might be wrong, but i don't think yorkshire is the sort of player that would have named one of his fellow mafia as evil in a diversary tactic - i think what you see is what you get, and this is shown by the way he openly defended his own godfather, linking himself too easily. So from the list of 9, i'm going to scratch these off as possibles (for the mafia, not the SK).

It's also pretty obvious that bluestars is the other mason, by the way that it's been said by practically everyone, and nobody has opposed it. If she was not, the real mason would obviously have spoken up by now. So she's off the list.

I know who i am, and if you read my last post, you should really have been able to work it out, so i'm also taking my name off the list.

Mophead pointed out that SVH had called himself the mafia godfather, and i don't think anyone in the mafia would have actually done that. It could be stunning diversion tactics, but i don't think, from reading his posts (no offense) that this would have been the case.

So who are we left with?

Happy Axeman and Afroboy. Lynch one today, one of our roleblockers stops the other one tonight, while the other one stops mikeblue (just a hunch based on that quote about how it was "soooooooo easily..... gonna be a victory for the town"  or whatever it was). If someone dies tonight, clearly mikeblue's not the SK, but i'm fairly certain i'm right about who the mafia can possibly be. The only one who's a bit of a doubt for me is mophead, who could have been doing the diversion tactics, like i said.

To Hippo .......... Afro is not the one to be going after !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I worked out a few roles ages ago including Bluestars, yorkshire & afro. I was right about Yorkshire .. it's looking like I'm right about Bluse stars (at least most people now seem to think so ) & I'm damn sure I'm right about Afro as well ...

[stevenryals]

Well then...  

I think we've effectively got this under wraps..  

I agree with hippo..  lets give it a shot..  

we lynch one of these, he roleblocks another supsect in the night, if there are no kills, we know who is the serial killer..  if not.. we have another lynch to do..

but which one to vote for??  hmmmm...

For me, it's Axeman..  (sorry boss)

Vote Axeman

[laserblue]

But for there to have been no kills on night one, either that person got blocked, somebody got protected by a doctor, or they simply weren't around to get their night action in. So potentially, a townie knows who did the killing, and that would be pretty useful information to tell the rest of us. Effectively, it'd win us the game.

Theres a 3rd option BULLETPROOF TOWNIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

see what I'm getting at??

[Mikeblue]

Well then...  

I think we've effectively got this under wraps..  

I agree with hippo..  lets give it a shot..  

we lynch one of these, he roleblocks another supsect in the night, if there are no kills, we know who is the serial killer..  if not.. we have another lynch to do..

but which one to vote for??  hmmmm...

For me, it's Axeman..  (sorry boss)

Vote Axeman

Jese Louise...I am confused??? Why are people saying who they are doesn't that make them an easy target??? Can someone please explain to me what the hell is going on here!

[stevenryals]

well, the first night, I figure they went after blue stars... if you remember she was hot and heavy on SVH's case before the end of the first day in regards to his vote for TP..  so, she was easily the only one who was 100% town..  so who would have went after her on the first night?

and mike.. 

He roleclaimed, but he's hoping that 1) he can roleblock the killer tonight or 2) someone has a protection role and will protect him.. 

it's a risky game, because we're not even sure the 2nd option is available..  but he's done well with roleblocking so far..

[Mikeblue]

THIS IS TO MIKEBLUE 

What!!!!!! I worked it out & voted for yorkshire first (when you were no where to be found ) & what do I get not thanks laser noooooooo I get you only vote for good guys ? not evil. I also voted for mophead so did just about everyone else at some time so thats your theory blown out of the water.

If you actually read my posts you would see I came up with the idea bluestars was the other mason & that yorkshire was evil

So this makes me think why would you get rid of the player that has actually worked things out for the good side ....

& here it is either you don't read my posts ...... you are not very good at this game ... or your evil .... so which is it?


FOS MIKEBLUE

I would also like a reply from Mike about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would probably say I am not very good at this game  

This is my first game and all along I have said I didn't have a clue about you and that you had slipped under my radar so thought I would post some stuff to see what reaction I got out of you.

Right I take your points on board but could you please explain to me in Lehmans terms what the hell is going on and what all this means???

Thank you

[Mikeblue]

well, the first night, I figure they went after blue stars... if you remember she was hot and heavy on SVH's case before the end of the first day in regards to his vote for TP..  so, she was easily the only one who was 100% town..  so who would have went after her on the first night?

and mike.. 

He roleclaimed, but he's hoping that 1) he can roleblock the killer tonight or 2) someone has a protection role and will protect him.. 

it's a risky game, because we're not even sure the 2nd option is available..  but he's done well with roleblocking so far..

I'm not a roleblocker or anything just a townie. Are you trying to hide that you are 

Maybe if I had a more active role I would understand more???

So right we think there are 2 mafia left and maybe a SK???

So if we lynch one of Afro and Axe and the the blocker blocks the other this stops them from killing if they are mafia but if they arn't then we will know it is someone else??? What the hell 

[hippo]

I would probably say I am not very good at this game  

This is my first game and all along I have said I didn't have a clue about you and that you had slipped under my radar so thought I would post some stuff to see what reaction I got out of you.

Right I take your points on board but could you please explain to me in Lehmans terms what the hell is going on and what all this means???

Thank you

I'm putting the information i have out there, so that we can make the most informed decision who to lynch today. As i'm a roleblocker, and the person i was a 100% on has now been killed, i'd have only been guessing between two tonight, to make sure the mafia are blocked again. By doing it this way, i can hopefully ensure that, if the right one isn't killed in the day, i can stop them killing tonight. As there's probably 7 townies left in the game, we shouldn't lose against a serial killer. Admittedly, i'm likely to die tonight because of there being a serial killer, but my blockon the mafia should still be effective, because blocks and protections technically happen before the kills during the night phase.

[bluestarsneyes]

Wow just catching up this morning and lots appears to be going on!!! Before I really post I'm going to read again and catch up...I'm inclined to follow steven, mikes, laser, and hippos reasonings so far, but before I vote I'd like to make sure I'm following the logic.

have to admit I've never lasted this long in a game before and all these different roles and powers and things are a little lost on me...so going to reread...before I vote.

let me really quick though say....

HOLY CRAP! SVH was the Godfather? I had a hunch he was but I'm still kind of new and some things made me worry it was too obvious to be true...either way...GOOD job Town!!!

I'll tell you that lots of good posting is going on here today.

I see that well yes roleclaiming is happening everywhere

Yes, I'm the other mason didn't own up to it earlier as I was sort of afraid it would distract from finding mafia...and looks like that worked for us so far....keep it up!

hippo roleclaiming to be roleblocker...good work is all I'll say to that...

I'll address more later.

[hippo]

I'm not a roleblocker or anything just a townie. Are you trying to hide that you are 

Maybe if I had a more active role I would understand more???

So right we think there are 2 mafia left and maybe a SK???

So if we lynch one of Afro and Axe and the the blocker blocks the other this stops them from killing if they are mafia but if they arn't then we will know it is someone else??? What the hell 

1 mafia and one SK. Or two mafia and a vigilante (pro town). Or one mafia and a vig obviously. If there were 5 evil out of 12 to begin with, it'd be pretty hard for the town to win.

[stevenryals]

the more SVH posts, the more my gut feeling tells me i'm right in that he is a townie.

This is enough for me right here..  this was during the time that it was fairly obvious that SVH was at least not a townie...  could have been cult, serial killer, or low level mafia...

and this gut instinct stuff that SVH used to lynch Trick Pony..

[stevenryals]

if peeps believe SVH is guilty, then so be it. I just dont think he is evil. I'm not trying to defend him, just my instinct thinks he a goodie thats all.

  gut instinct again..

[laserblue]

1 mafia and one SK. Or two mafia and a vigilante (pro town). Or one mafia and a vig obviously. If there were 5 evil out of 12 to begin with, it'd be pretty hard for the town to win.

Right this is pretty much how I see it ... earlier on in the game I said.... as there were less players there would be less mafia or the game would be very hard for the town side .... maybe 3 or 4 mafia & an other thrown in there........

[stevenryals]

Hippos current thoughts seem completly different to mine, I have SVH pretty high on my 'safe' list, yet i have Afroboy as highly suspect and Miasg not quite entering my thoughts yet. 

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