Mafia 11 - Tripping the Rift Mafia - Town WIN

[stevenryals]

IS IT AGAINST THE RULES TO VOTE JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK THERE EVIL AND YES I DID READ THAT PART VERY QUICK BUT I STILL BELIEVE HE LOOKED SUSPICIOUS EVEN AFTER!!!!!!

So, since it's come out that it really wasnt MY reasons that you used to cast this vote..

what was the reason then?

[yorkshire blue]

that's what she said, but that is (as she said) highly unlikely, especially considering one townie is gone now..

thats it right there..  if he wasnt sus during the day to you, then it seems more obvious for you to assume that those who voted for trick (since he wasnt suspect per your post here) to be evil..  yet you are deliberately and blatantly defending SOMEONE in that list of three..  who is it..

oh.. ok.. thanks for explaining..  you are protecting SVH..  thats obvious now..

Here's a genuine example of mafia behaviour.   the two most common posters, Hippo and myself are sussing out SVH, and at the end of day 1, bluestarsneyes sussed him out fairly well also..

In steps yorkshireblue, manipulates words in a post.. puts the sus back on the original 'suss-er' so as to throw doubt into hippo and my sus of SVH..

does that make sense.. i typed it fast and used some words that i'm not so sure are real words..

FOS YORKSHIREBLUE

VOTE SVH

that was a spelling mistake was rushing
was supposed to say trick pony did look suspicous thats why all three were good
afroboy you voted for him because you just think hes evil not a very good reason
and then theres also your hiding on day one
fos afroboy

[stevenryals]

that was a spelling mistake was rushing
was supposed to say trick pony did look suspicous thats why all three were good
afroboy you voted for him because you just think hes evil not a very good reason
and then theres also your hiding on day one
fos afroboy

RUBBISH..  the word "did" turns into the word "didnt" by a spelling mistake?  quite a horrible spelling mistake..
crab...
oops I didnt mean to type crab, i meant to type, ' i think you are mafia '
....
I'd also like to note that have not even defended yourself against the accusations that you defended SVH..

next..  you say "he looked sus, so thats why they're all good"  then you tell afroboy that his vote 'just because he thinks he's evil is not a good reason"...  you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth..  on one hand you say "they thought he was evil and that makes them good" and the other hand you say afroboy is sus because he voted for him because he though he was evil..

how do YOU know who actually thought he was evil, and who was mafia and ensuring a non-mafia lynch? 

[*Afroboy*]

WAAATT!!! this is drivin me crazy man. I don't know what else I can say. Your reasons steve were PART of the reason, ok I can't give a clear explanation but I'm not the only one yesterday who hadn't been able to explain.

[yorkshire blue]

what is there to defend theres no qoutes where ive actually done that

[stevenryals]

what is there to defend theres no qoutes where ive actually done that

um... you're previous post to this one.. the one that i QUOTED in my post previous to this one..

[stevenryals]

ok I can't give a clear explanation but I'm not the only one yesterday who hadn't been able to explain.

i think you've said it all here..

[hippo]

why cant the three all be good and made a mistake
he didnt look really sus during the first day
svh didnt have many reasons to vote trickponynut you say he did all the explaining above
vote bluestarsneyes

Yorkshire, you voted for bluestars here for her suggesting - perfectly reasonably - that it might be wise to lynch one of the people who voted for Trick Pony, as we actually know that they were definitely voting for an innocent, and that's the most we have on anyone. She named SVH as her number one suspect, and then you voted for her. You didn't say anything else, so we can surely only assume you were doing it as a defense?

I'm not suggesting we blind ourselves with those three being the only possibles though. Stay alert, people.

[laserblue]

Hello peeps  

Ok ... no night kill... either a cop/roleblocker stopped the kill or they didn't get there shit together to make one in time... there could be other reasons but these are the most likley... we don't know at this time but if a couple of players were not up with the deadline or/& they are mainly newbies they may not have got there shit together in time
Even if there was a cop & a roleblocker it would still be a very lucky block.

& as I warned in one of my first posts ...it always seems to be a townie newbie that get's it first night.


with a reduced amount of players I would naturally think the number of mafia would be reduced ...... with all the players who voted for Trickpony all having played before I doubt all are evil & voted for the same person so we are going to have to be careful as we don't want to kill of another innocent.

Miasg went after TP aggresivley from the start would a Mafia player draw attention to himself like that... I wouldn't but this is only what I think...

Afroboy .... what he did looks toooo suspicious by far..... would a mafia player make himself look this bad .. also I wouldn't ... but again that's me...

Steve if you look back I think you had just removed your vote from TP (after mentioning him in a few posts) on to Afro ... I think it maybe a combination of Afro trying to get you to unvote him by agreeing with you ... he just didn't read all the posts long enough & he was desparatley trying to save his own ass.
I don't know.... it doesn't make him innocent but it could be a reason for his bad play

SVH.... voted for TP with the less fuss of all ... as I had said in my previous posts
he seems to be playing a different game to normal ... I not sure  

I changed my vote from Bluestars to Mophead cause Bluestars has started making a useful contribution & I can't really see any reason to revote her at the timebeing ....but Mophead looks suspicious as hell.. I know it could be cause he's new & young but his posts still seem wrong

FOS Mophead & SVH

[stevenryals]

Yorkshire, you voted for bluestars here for her suggesting - perfectly reasonably - that it might be wise to lynch one of the people who voted for Trick Pony, as we actually know that they were definitely voting for an innocent, and that's the most we have on anyone. She named SVH as her number one suspect, and then you voted for her. You didn't say anything else, so we can surely only assume you were doing it as a defense?

I'm not suggesting we blind ourselves with those three being the only possibles though. Stay alert, people.

that's what I got from this post as well..  i got a little deeper into it in my response to it, if you'll read that..

[hippo]

that's what I got from this post as well..  i got a little deeper into it in my response to it, if you'll read that..

I did read it, i was just saying it again for yorkshire's benefit.

[stevenryals]

Just in case some of you have forgotten:

Afroboy     :  voted off trickpony and cant explain it
mophead   :  surely evil
Bluestars   :  probably innocent
Happy Axe :  who knows at this point, his posts are eratic as best..
Laserblue   :  Didnt help much yesterday,but made a good vote change when makes him seem town
Miasg        :  Caused a scene with TP, who turned out to be innocent, not sure on MIASG
Mikeblue    :  He's sure dissappeared hasn't he...
hippo        :  seems innocent, but never know with hippo..
SVH          :  Guilty i believe..
Yorkshire Blue :  Guilty, just not as important..

SO, I think our mafia consists of :

Mophead
SVH
Yorkshireblue
probably one other..  axeman, laserblue, miasg, hippo, afroboy?? who knows...

[laserblue]

Steve.... I've been reading back  & i think I've just noticed something I wish I had not (I did this very quickly so I may have this wrong but).... you have either put a vote or an FOS on everyone except Roomforrookie/hippo..... hippo took over from rookie.. they are one & the same & now you to seem very cosy    

please explain



say it ain't so Steve say it ain't so

[Happy Axeman]

Steve.... I've been reading back  & i think I've just noticed something I wish I had not (I did this very quickly so I may have this wrong but).... you have either put a vote or an FOS on everyone except Roomforrookie/hippo..... hippo took over from rookie.. they are one & the same & now you to seem very cosy    

please explain

say it ain't so Steve say it ain't so

you know what laser, youve called it as how i'm reading steves play, I originally thought he was mafia with Amadjin/Mophead, but then i thought it was appearing a little too obvious... but then you look at how influencial hippo is trying to be...

if peeps believe SVH is guilty, then so be it. I just dont think he is evil. I'm not trying to defend him, just my instinct thinks he a goodie thats all. I also think things can be twisted and blown out of proportion some-times by people too intent on jumping down anything whatsoever...
poor afroboy, looks like he's lost it. lol
maybe the pressure is getting to him, despite the fact that more fingers are being pointed towards mr Halen? seems a bit suss.. but then that blows my theory of Ryals/hippo... 

[hippo]

I'm just not so sure we need to lynch mikeblue as I feel he's roleclaimed in an earlier thread..  dotn want to make a big deal about it.. because it could come back and bite us in the end..  but read into it yourself..

Right, at the time i took this for granted, but didn't actually check all the way through. But i have now, and i really can't find anything. Unless it's because i don't know anything about the show? Or did you just make it up?

[stevenryals]

he's a good player laserblue, it will take him screwing up before there is anything to point out there.. as for now, he seems innocent because he's sussing people with valid reasoning.

FOS  ROOMFORROOKIE (where have you been?)

so, yorkshire protects svh, you put pressure on me (who has his vote on svh)...  you 3 and mophead may end up being our mafia..

[stevenryals]

Right, at the time i took this for granted, but didn't actually check all the way through. But i have now, and i really can't find anything. Unless it's because i don't know anything about the show? Or did you just make it up?

I've posted it, and i even referred to it and said "could this be an early role claim"  if you cant find it, i'm sorry.. but it's there..  I dont want to make too big of a deal about it, if it's true, surely the mafia will try to get him in the night phase..  and maybe they did this time around, maybe both sides saw the role claim and he was both targeted and protected...

(funny though that once laserblue tries to link us, you come straight out for me..)

[stevenryals]

I just dont think he is evil. I'm not trying to defend him, just my instinct thinks he a goodie thats all.

What is it BESIDES your instinct that puts SVH on your 'safe list'?  SVH voted with instinct last time around and he got a townie killed..  lets not talk anymore about instinct..  lets look for real clues.. 

tell me the reason he's safe, maybe i'll be convinced.. 

everything looks bad for SVH, the only reason I have a single doubt about his mafia-ness, is when I had 3 votes on me, and SVH said he thought it was a bad idea and urged people to not vote me..  I thought at the time, he must be innocent for trying to protect me..  but then as he continued to mention my name in posts, and speak positively of me, and not pressure me at all, I thought he was trying to create some kind of safe passage through me.. and that's where I stand now..I think that he's tried to get on with a few, and find a way to show himself as innocent.. 

[*Afroboy*]

First I have everyone on my back going your mafia your mafia die die die, then i get told i have lost it!  

And looking back at the posts I see stevenryals says "i'm certain that they're not masons.." talking about trick pony. I don't think you're so certain anymore mate.

looking at who could be other mason(s) I think I've narrowed it down to Axeman, Bluestars and Hippo. I'm not certain on this one but im fairly sure its one of them looking back at who trick pony has voted and fos'd and who peeps have fos'd and voted for him. But I think there will probs only be one.

AND stop posting when im trying to post stevenryals!!!! and why do you always end up doing 2 or 3 posts in a row instead of all in one!

[hippo]

I've posted it, and i even referred to it and said "could this be an early role claim"  if you cant find it, i'm sorry.. but it's there..  I dont want to make too big of a deal about it, if it's true, surely the mafia will try to get him in the night phase..  and maybe they did this time around, maybe both sides saw the role claim and he was both targeted and protected...

(funny though that once laserblue tries to link us, you come straight out for me..)

Found it now. But if, in future, you left the posters name in when quoting them, it'd be handy for my brain. I don't think it was one to be honest, but i take your point.

And linking me and Ryals probably is easy, yes. Because we've both spent ages reading the posts, looking in to who's the most suspicious and have drawn the same conclusions. Maybe it's because Steve Van Halen has actually made a point of saying we're both not suspicious and agreeing with practically everything we say that we've both come to that conclusion? SVH has played the game with both of us before and knows that if one of us starts arguing with someone because we think they're evil, we are going to post about it all day and find anything incriminating you've left behind. Unfortunately for him, it's backfired somewhat in this case.