Mafia 8 - The Kingmaker - Assassins Victory

[fozza gump zzz]

Hear yee hear yee. It is I sir fozza gump of stoke. Twas a long night shift one must say and one has just awoken to the sound of pattering rain at thy window. One is now perusing deal or no deal with sir noel edmonds of channel 4. One believes that an opinion must be stated to indulge in this game and that is what one will now do.

Hammer, one believes that thy rules are good, however, one must take into consideration that random can sometimes be beneficial to the caused of our poor town.  The king is power and power is the king. T'would be good for him to place a random execution upon this boring town without being restricted. If all goes wrong, we then have somebody to blame.

Hence forth, although thy rules are good, stop following them.

"Thy kingdom come, thy will be done"

Vote: Tommy Catons Hair Stylist - I dont like hair stylist's :D

[stevenryals]

VOTE DOTLEO

Thats wasteful... and i believe it was a  weak attempt at saying "i'm posting, so i'm not evil... look how nice and innocent i am"

and ... fozza.. you've got to stop that....

[Sir Villain]

Axeman has not been online for a week so I don't think he is tactically lurking, so Unvote:Axeman, Unvote:Billyman.

I think we should have a seperate vote on you wants to use the guidelines I have set forward so here goes........

Who thinks we should try and abide by these guidelines (or your own versions or adjustments) for Kings?

Suggestion One-The King may only execute players if the town has at least given that player 33% of the votes (we can keep a running list for "executable players" or something)
Suggestion Two-The King must execute a player if the town gives them 66% of the votes (or an otherwise overwhelming majority, we may change the percentage at the town's discretion)
Suggestion Three-The King may execute a player if there is direct (investigative, most likely) evidence against that person, even if that person has not reached 33% of the votes

Vote:For the Rules

I note that most of your main concerns are that I am trying to "change" the rules. That is bollocks, but this systems is meant to encourage us to set up a way of doing things. The main thing is getting a Town win and If we know what is consistently happening each day then the Town has a much better chance of winning. If some of you had your way then most of us shouldn't bother posting because it will mean nothing unless someone blurts out "I am an assassin, I mean umm. oh shit." Stop moaning about it and lets see who is in favour of trying this system out and who is in favour of blindly following one person.

First to 10 votes wins
Votes For
Sir Hammer

Votes Against

___________

Interesting spot on Amadjin, steven but he does tend to flip-flop alot.

Yorkshire, tell us what you think on whats happened so far and who other than me is on your list of execution?

[bluestarsneyes]

haven't a clue anything to add...except I'm ready for some death.....well of course...unless that is my own death...
see if I keep talking I'll kill myself by my own comments....

so what do you do now....call someone a name...til they get mad...and say something stupid...and then game on???

[stevenryals]

VOTE AGAINSTHAMMERSRULES Because that will make the role of king useless, and this will pretty much make this game just like the hammer mafias...


GET THE F*CK OVER IT HAMMER.... IT'S NOT YOUR GAME.. NO EFFIN' PLAY AND STOP MOANING ABOUT THE RULES..

[bluestarsneyes]

Dang....agreeing with Steven...but I have said...and many others at this point have said...no thanks to your additional guidelines...why not just start the game hammer...what is the obsession with stating your case to an audience that isn't interested in hearing it.....who...come on someone...who is the one person that believes...once and for all that these guidelines should be added???

What??? No one???



VOTE AGAINSTHAMMERSRULES

[stevenryals]

{Sir Hammer says via Telepathic Gateway}

OK, I wont say another damn word about my new 'guidelines' and we will get on with the game now. 

{End, Telepathic Transmission}

[laserblue]

"Hammer, one believes that thy rules are good, however, one must take into consideration that random can sometimes be beneficial to the caused of our poor town.  The king is power and power is the king. T'would be good for him to place a random execution upon this boring town without being restricted. If all goes wrong, we then have somebody to blame."

funny you should say that fozza cause i just tried hammers random selection & guess what it came up with you

so

VOTE FOZZA

[stevenryals]

are you guys freaking kidding me....     seriously voting for someone due to "random.org"... 

Fozza says:

random can sometimes be beneficial to the caused of our poor town

  this sounds like crap to me..  but in fact, it is true.  Our record of lynching mafia on day one is far from impecible.  In fact, its down right poor.  I think we have a 3 of 8 record.  Thats 37.5%


out of 18 people here, I figure there are somewhere about these stats:

8 innocents
5 Mafia
2 'rogue innocents'
1 cult leader
1 kingmaker


that 8 out of 18, which translates roughly to 44%.

Seeing that our method of trying to "route" out evil, is a 37.5% success; and the odds at this point of randomly guessing an execution gives us a 44% chance... I say what the hell...  yorkshire, your decision...

-steven

[ChurchofHalo]

But that all suposses that your maths is right.

What if there is only 4 or three mafia type players then it decreases.

The first lynch is always random unless someone does something increadibly stupid.

Hammers regulations sound great in practice except the last one.

Suggestion Three-The King may execute a player if there is direct (investigative, most likely) evidence against that person, even if that person has not reached 33% of the votes

IF all thats needed is an investigation then everyone will claim to have investigated people claiming that they are either innocent or guilty depending on thier motivations.

Might need to rethink that one.

[stevenryals]

yea, I agree...  But i think that hippo has the numbers slightly skewed towards the townfolk...  hippo is an evil evil man, so he probably has 8 nasties out there... 

your right though... first lynch is always random.. and our record inst that great..

however, my record is actuall 3 of 5, which is much better, because i missed the first 3 games. 

[Sir Villain]

If you look at the front page you can see that Hippo has posted all the roles in this game. There are no Cult Leaders, "Rogue Townies" or other strange roles.

There is one team of Assasins with probably with about 4 or 5 members, anything else would be a bit unbalanced. The only roles the Town might have are Cops, Docs, Vigs, Masons, Kingmakers and Heros.

Im not saying we lynch someone with complete randomness (obviously with the King there we can't), but its normally a good place to start your votes on.

Hammers regulations sound great in practice except the last one.

Suggestion Three-The King may execute a player if there is direct (investigative, most likely) evidence against that person, even if that person has not reached 33% of the votes

IF all thats needed is an investigation then everyone will claim to have investigated people claiming that they are either innocent or guilty depending on thier motivations.

Might need to rethink that one.

Could do with a little tweaking so how about this?


Suggestion Three-The King may execute a player if there is direct (investigative, most likely) evidence against that person, even if that person has not reached 33% of the votes as long as the majority of the players trust in that person not bullshitting.

Even if someones motives are bad and they fake a Cop Investigation to get someone lynched, then we can just lynch or vig them as soon as possible.

[yorkshire blue]

i dont think tommy catons hairstylist or bluestarsneyes r evil cos i dont think that hippo would give them evil roles on there first game apart from that there isnt nothin suspicous really apart from hammer who is desperate to change th rules y r u want to change the rules so badly

[stevenryals]

DO NOT

edit your post!!!!  (yorkshire)

king or not.. that's a no-no

[bluestarsneyes]

No edit? Even if you misspell....crap that stinks....

[Sir Villain]

i dont think tommy catons hairstylist or bluestarsneyes r evil cos i dont think that hippo would give them evil roles on there first game apart from that there isnt nothin suspicous really apart from hammer who is desperate to change th rules y r u want to change the rules so badly

Im sure Hippo has done the roles randomly so we can't rule them out like that, and I am not "desperate to change the rules" like I have already said. I am getting bored of posting this again and again. I merely want to make sure the whole town is involved in the decision. If it was not for me making suggestions then what else would have happened in this game? People would have posted about how there is nothing to say abit more or how confused they are?

Lets just give the system ago, and then we can revise it whenever we need to.

[hippo]

STOP!

> Don't edit/delete previously submitted posts. If you accidentally double post or make a tragic formatting error, just let me know and I'll fix the problem. I'm pretty good at catching stuff like that anyway.

Post editing is against the rules of the game, i'll give this one as a warning, but the next player doing it will be modkilled. I know we've got some new players, so this should make everyone aware of the rules. Everything said in the game should remain on record.

carry on..

[yorkshire blue]

laser blues been on alot and not posted apart from his random vote which is no help

[stevenryals]

I've seen him browsing on here quite a few times today as well...

[Sir Villain]

Probably just taking stuff in. I would rather people took their time and posted only when they had something to say or when they were answering someone else. Posting for the sake of it is a waste of time, and we are better of concentrating on others.
There are still a few people who haven't even been on yet for some reason or other so we can't do much until they show up.