Mafia 7: Snakes & Zombies on a Plane Mafia - Tie!

[ChurchofHalo]

Why should I defend myself, I know I am innocent and you case against me is so pathetically flimsy  that anyone who knows anything about the game can see it has no real evidence or merit to it.

Leave your vote on me by all means, but if I turn up dead and innocent you will have to answer the questions.

[i2i Killer 89]

I think Billy looks a lot more suspicious than Churchy at the moment. It just seems that he was trying to get Axeman on side by roleclaiming but it didn't work so he's now trying to kep a low profile.

[Happy Axeman]

Why should I defend myself, I know I am innocent and you case against me is so pathetically flimsy  that anyone who knows anything about the game can see it has no real evidence or merit to it.

Leave your vote on me by all means, but if I turn up dead and innocent you will have to answer the questions.

well maybe if you and others posted more, there could be more debate on who is innocent and who isnt.

in fact i think you have posted more today than you have throughout the game so far.   
why shouuld you defend yourself?
if your an innocent, then isnt it part of the game to try and show how your innocent to stop people lynching you, instead of saying 'but if I turn up dead and innocent you will have to answer the questions'.
that doesnt help anyone and makes people look harder at you, as its a claim everyone can make. 

as it is, all we can do is guess and point at the people not posting.

I'd say its 50-50 if billyman is evil or not. He's not the brightest Bulb. at least Billy posts, and id prefer to see the non-contributers gone first, unless someone picks up on something like Currie did with Fozza.

[Quig]

At the moment, I believe that happy axeman, billyman and manic are the snakes. My reasoning for this is that there is no way to know if manic really was attacked or not. Also, axeman would of had to of been very lucky to catch the right person. By claiming as a once only save, he can try and make himself look innocent and not have to back it up later by protecting somebody. Billyman quickly followed up with a like vote and a reason for believing axeman to make people agree. Manic then comfirms the attack and save on him but doesnt say it was axeman as he wouldnt know. Even if the doctor were to claim now (DONT) it still wouldnt comfirm axeman to be guilty because it was a one time thing that could exist along side a doctor. In other words, Vote: Axeman

ok I no longer really believe this theory to be true, axeman seems fairly cleared. Billyman looks dodgy still though for a quick vote after axeman. I think he is the best way to go for a lynch today unless we try to flush out some of the people who have posted even less and more pointlessly than me, like Yorkshire Blue and STeve Van Halen

Vote:Billyman

[Sir Villain]

Vote Count

Hippo (1): Billyman
Billyman (2): Dotleo, TheQuigMaster
ChurchofHalo (1): Happy Axeman


Not Voting (9):Currieman, Amadjin, StevenRyals, Hippo, Yorkshire Blue, Raygyn Bull, Steve Van Halen, ManicMonkeyman, ChurchofHalo

[sweeney]

ok I no longer really believe this theory to be true, axeman seems fairly cleared. Billyman looks dodgy still though for a quick vote after axeman. I think he is the best way to go for a lynch today unless we try to flush out some of the people who have posted even less and more pointlessly than me, like Yorkshire Blue and STeve Van Halen

Vote:Billyman

So is this going to be Quiqs only post of the virtual day? Come on and vote for whoever is the most likely to get voted off

However, I agree that Billy is acting the more suspicios, but also agree with Axey that we should get rid of the less active players.

[Happy Axeman]

thats my thoughts entirely Raygin.

Which is what is making me think Billy is being used as a scapegoat by some peeps, as he appears to be the easy option.

Quigmaster is one of a few peeps high up on my most suspect list.
we are still to hear from SteveVanHalen and yorkshireblue...

[ManicMonkeyMan]

to be honest quig is making himself suspicous by voting everytime he posts, then slithers away like a snake through grass.  still not sure about billy, just the way he posts.  its probably got something to do with that he is dumbfuck

but with the lack of posting going on from the usual suspects its hard to pick up anything

[Quig]

Im really busy with just starting Sixth form at the moment so I think I am posting enough considering the time I am available. Its not like everyone is hanging on my every word is it?

My posts normally have a point to them unlike certain peoples so I would say I was well down on the suspects list.

If we are not gonna lynch billyman then it should be Yorkshire, but billymans silence and strange roleclaim seems too  to ignore.

Billy what is your actual role other than "upset man". Do you have to find your wife or something?

[billyman]

no mate, nothing, i have no role im human depressed cos my wife has left me and im flying to new pastures to start again, stupid bloody hammer

[froganomis]

i'd understand your excuse quig if your 6th form was say 50 miles away,but in the first 2-3 weeks hardly anything gets done,i know this as im also in 6th form,so i fail to see your point...cos you do it every game....not just recently.ps axy i also picked up on fozzas strange ways,so i want a little bit of credit lo

lvote: Quigmaster

[hippo]

People are posting, this is a bit unusual.

cos you do it every game

Surely that makes his lack of posting less suspicious than say, church's lack of posting? There's a few players i'll never be able to work out. I have absolutely NO CLUE about what yorkshireblue's role is. Does anyone? It's rather annoying to me that by being a dodgy posting sort of player, he's actually the best player in terms of concealing his role.

no mate, nothing, i have no role im human depressed cos my wife has left me and im flying to new pastures to start again, stupid bloody hammer

This role is still not convincing me in the slightest. I know hammer comes up with some random roles (tennis ball anyone?), but that  doesn't sound like one of his.

Which is what is making me think Billy is being used as a scapegoat by some peeps, as he appears to be the easy option.

If this were the case, i think you'd find that billy would have been lynched yesterday. It was by no means the easy option. He is simply the most suspicious in my eyes. Him and church - not saying they're working together, i've already pointed out i don't think they are. But they're my two main suspects.

So as it is, i may as well put my thinking in to action.

vote billyman

[Happy Axeman]

but if billy is as suspect as everyone is making out, then wouldnt he be favourite to get killed tonight by a good power role? 

there must be at least one good role with killing capabilities. So why not leave it upto them to decide billys fate, and concentrate on the people who dont seem bothered with the game?
people like Yorkshire and SteveVanHalen dont offer enough to make a valid or educated guess, making them pointless parts of our investigations.

[yorkshire blue]

yes kill me off i have the most pointless role ever im good but got no actions so whats the point in me been in the game

[hippo]

but if billy is as suspect as everyone is making out, then wouldnt he be favourite to get killed tonight by a good power role? 

there must be at least one good role with killing capabilities. So why not leave it upto them to decide billys fate

Might not even exist. And it gives him chance to kill (if he's evil) someone else before he dies, if we operate that tactic. I think it's a bit too far in to still be randomly lynching people. Use what we know, rather than what we don't. It's the inactive players that are the scapegoats in my opinion.

[Happy Axeman]

yes kill me off i have the most pointless role ever im good but got no actions so whats the point in me been in the game

i no longer have any role to play in the game, but i'm still here contributing my opinions and trying to weed out the evil players.

I understand how having no actions can be tedious and make you think theres no point in playing, which is why in my game i tried to make sure everyone had something to do to keep them interested.

but a person with no roles is just as important to the others, as in Hammers games its all about the day lynch, which everyone contributes.

you have to be creative and use your brain, if everyone decided that there role is shit and its pointless playing, there would be no game would there? 

as for billy, what if he does turn out to be telling the truth and is good? then we have wasted a lynch as much as wasting it on someone who isnt contributing as much.

There has to be at least one good power role, otherwise it would be far too easy for the snakes and zombies to win.

[hippo]

as for billy, what if he does turn out to be telling the truth and is good? then we have wasted a lynch as much as wasting it on someone who isnt contributing as much.

Well yeah, it's a risk isn't it? But the alternative is we spend 3 or 4 days lynching inactive players, and, unless they're all evil (unlikely), in that time we lose a further 4 minimum innocents. That'd be the game gone. I know which risk i'm more willing to take.

[froganomis]

so without voting,can we have a like a show of hands as to who everyone think are most guilty,and a reason why?i know its been done basically throughout the game,but i want to make sure we get this right,and 15 pages is a lot to read through,much appreciated-i can make my mind up then...

[Happy Axeman]

but like i've already said, I believe lynching Billy is 50-50. I'm not convinced either way. 

yes he appears to of lost the plot, and in many ways copied me. wether it makes him look suspicious or not, At least he posts. In my eyes there is nothing concreate about him so its still a random lynch.

I'd rather do a 50-50 on someone who doesnt contribute that much, than someone i'm not convinced about but at least posts.
like you have said so yourself hippo, its virtually impossible to judge what somone like Yorkshire blue(or steveVanHalen) is, just because of there lack of posting. would you rather them stay until the end, making the game virtually impossible to play?

I'm inclined to be looking at who votes billy, as they ARE looking for the easy option.

[hippo]

Oh my god! Sibierski just scored. COMPLETELY lost my train of thought now. I'll get back to it..