Axe Mafia 1: EVIL vs GOOD

[billyman]

aha!

at last progress.

steven thinks amadjin has a crap role = little posting.

steven posts 20 times in an hour = brilliant role

now thats what i call a slip up

only thing i cant figure out is its a good guy role or a bad guy role?

for now though i will just mark you down as a big player who possibly is over confident

hang on too confident.......... are you invincible? bulletproof? GOD? cos you sure seem cocky


please dont kill me for being clever steve

[stevenryals]

OK... Billy.. Obviously you didnt think about that post...

you think I have a big role

I assume that, like in past games, mafia can talk amoungst themselves.. so they know who each other are..  you have called me the cop, on the board, you have now said i have a 'brilliant role'... why would you do that if you were not a EVIL sack of poop!!!???

You've put a bullseye sign on me for the night actions tonight, I just hope a doctor protects me...

and I hope you stop trying to tell your mafia buddies who to vote for through not so subtle posts...

I just don't understand the idea behind your posts?

First:           You ask cops to roleclaim
Second:      You say, on the board, in front of everyone that I'm probably a cop
Third:         You post saying that I obviously have a brilliant role.

You are EVIL to the core. 

STOP TRYING TO CALL PEOPLE OUT OF THIER ROLE UNLESS YOU ARE CALLING OUT MAFIA...
YOU WILL NEVER HEAR AN INNOCENT PERSON SAYING:
"YOU MUST BE A COP"
"YOU MUST BE A DOCTOR"
"YOU MUST BE _______"

Simply because that is giving the EVIL people ideas, and you're just helping them out...

I've already FOS'd you... you're about to get voted for... foolish little man..

-steven

[hippo]

I'm probably looking for things that aren't there, but we haven't got much else to go on so i suppose i may as well point something out.

Stevenryals has spent a massive amount of time through the day, and in particularly in that last post pointing out how guilty billyman's posts have looked. The amount of material he's produced against billy already is massive considering the relatively little action that's occured. And if you look at billy's posts they are suspicious. As has been pointed out. So stevenryals' posts implicating billyman have been completely justified.

And then he says: "Simply because that is giving the EVIL people ideas, and you're just helping them out..."

So he's making it easy for the evil people by making himself easy to accuse.  And who's the one doing all the accusing again? And it also implies he doesn't really think billyman's part of the said evil group. Why would he think that if he wasn't part of it himself?

Of course, it could just be a typo 

fos stevenryals

[stevenryals]

So he's making it easy for the evil people by making himself easy to accuse.  And who's the one doing all the accusing again? And it also implies he doesn't really think billyman's part of the said evil group. Why would he think that if he wasn't part of it himself?

Either you are extrememly smart, or you are extremely not... becuase you have confused me twice in one day...  I work on high-speed data transport circuits breaking down itemized B8ZS transmisions to bit level.. all of this based on logic.  I am a true alpha male with a type a personality...  all of my life is based on logic.  Like this, is it easier for a man to put the toilet seat down, or for the woman to pick it up?  with that said.. I simply can't understan how you can say, "the evidence against billyman is extreme, so i will fos stevenryals because he is the one who caught him."  Unless you are in cahoots with him, but that wouldnt make sense seeing that you fos'd him as well.. and pointed out one of his 'roleclaim' posts earlier...  you are confusing me by your tactics hippo...
my tactics are more straightforward though...  point out the obvious and less obvious without trying to read into the game too much.. becuase some of you just simply aren't into this enough to be doing tripple reverse psychology.   
Hippo.. i'm not suspicious of you very much, a little, i admit... i just don't understand your methods here..  you pointed out yourself that the evidence is piling on billyman... the only thing i've done is post a lot.. and if you guys had my job.. you would too.  : )     

So.. in conclusion...  just to make sure i have this correctly...  you have fos'd billy and I.  You fos'd billy for the same reason I have fos'd billy, you fos'd me for bringing more suspicios activity of billy's to the table.  I guess I should fos you for fos'ing billy as well.. seeing as you've said that billy has 'massive' evidence against him...

oh.. and I get paid by the hour, the longer i'm at work.. the more i get paid..   : )
so, time here, working and playing on this board.. is time well spent.  : )   
of course i wont be here over the weekend.. so try not to be to harsh on me saturday and sunday...
I'll be here for about 2 more hours, and i'll be back on monday..   play nice!!!

-Steven

[hippo]

Okay, maybe i didn't highlight what i meant enough.

"Simply because that is giving the EVIL people ideas, and you're just helping them out..."

Your sentence doesn't seem to point out that billyman is in fact evil, but that his looking guilty is helping other people accuse him easily. And you're the one going completely all out in your efforts to accuse him.

[stevenryals]

Oh ok.. I see what you're saying..

you think i should have said, "...and you're just helping your fellow EVIL team members out"

As I've said before, I do not know if Billy is EVIL, I dont have enough info yet to vote for anyone..

however, I have major suspicion of billyman... but I tend to think that the EVIL people in these games
tend to stay quiet more often than not, because they know that we will sit here and kill each other
off while they thow in thier measley 4 or 5 posts per game-day, and we forget totally about who they are.
With the exception of myself, amadjin, fozza, billyman and you(hippo), because we post all the time
no matter what our roles are..  I do notice those who aren't posting a lot.  I like to watch the board and see
who's looking at this thread..  I saw today that Dotleo has viewed the thread quite a few times today, and yet
he's only posted once to fakevote me and again to fos me, both with small single line posts that would go
unnoticed by most...  Everyone else I've seen access the board, has posted shortly thereafter.. but Dotleo has not.

I just think everyone needs to pay more attention to everything that's going on, not just the ones who are posting..

I've posted some pretty convincing evidence against Billyman, but that doesn't mean he is mafia for sure.

Amadjin and Fozza have brought suspicion towards themselves as well... but not enough to compile a case against them..

Hippo, you have confused me twice today, I am afraid to accuse you because you may respond with more confusing statements and that bothers me..  : )   j/k    You really haven't done anything wrong yet.

Churchofhalo hasnt posted much?

Derhammer accessed earlier but didnt post, maybe he is still at work, i dont know, but he hasnt done anything to make himself look suspicious

ManicMonkeyMan posted once today i think, I saw him here once, and he posted once, gave some good info on what he had seen, and left.. so.. I haven't much suspicion towards him...

I haven't seen anyone else on here today that I can remember... 

Oh, Billyman...... Happy Birthday to your wife..  : )   

-Steven

[stevenryals]

Quick Update:

Evil Weasel
Yorkshire Blue
Fozza
Raygun Bull

These are the people who havent posted today....
not saying they are EVIL!!!
but saying they havent posted yet today...


I told you, i have a lot of time on my hands right now..

I may come up with a # of posts list here soon..
: )

-steven

[hippo]

fozza and evil weasel have both posted today. I don't think people really have to post every day (every proper day, rather than game day i mean), as long as they post a few times in the actual game day. And apparently there are measures to stop people not posting at all.

But looking to see who's actually active a fair amount and still doesnt post much is reasonable.

[stevenryals]

I figure since we can't do the random vote on the first day, we have to be crafty and resourceful.

as far as the ones who haven't posted this 'proper' day, not saying that makes them suspect at all... because I checked a couple of them, and it showed they haven't logged in since yesterday...  but i also watch other boards, and when someone posts there, and doesnt post here, that just means I probably missed thier name on the 'viewing this thread' at the top of the page... and assume they read it and didnt post.  That, to me, is more suspicious than almost anything someone can do...


so get involved people!!! do it!!!!

The simpsons game was 43 pages.. and that was a blast because 10 or 11 of us were in there battling it out and involved in the game.. lets make this one the same!!!! actually.. lets make all of them like that...

-Steven

[Sir Villain]

I think what Hippo was getting at was this.....I think

In one of your recent posts you make it clear that you think Billyman is mafia and trying to warn his fellow minions who to vote for and you almost give him a vote but you don't. You instead say

"Simply because that is giving the EVIL people ideas, and you're just helping them out..."

This statement implies that you don't actually think he is mafia, which is odd considering all the thoughts you had earlier in the post. This could be a minor freudian slip because you actually know that Billyman is indeed not mafia because he is not in your mafia group?
I think you don't want to attack Billyman enough by giving him a vote because it would reflect badly on you if he gets lynched as an innocent.


Like Hippo said it could be just a typo but maybe not. With not much to go on I think it warrants a FOS.


I agree that a few more people need to add an opinion. Dotleo is a clever guy so I want to know what he is thinking but I reckon we will have to wait til Sunday as he is out partying

[stevenryals]

You're right, out of about 5,000 words i've typed today, one was wrong.. 

Here's my list:

showing % I feel that the player is EVIL!!!!

Billyman :    75%
Hippo   :     40%
Hammer:    10%
Amadjin:     60%
Fozza    :    70%
Dotleo  :    50%
Manic    :    10%
Church  :    20%

  That's all I have for today!!!!!


I'm going home!!!! 

I may check in on this game this weekend after the community shield, as I'll probably want to catch a live commentary online just avoid the american commentators who say things like, "SCORE!!!!!"  and ... "THIS IS A LOW SCORING GAME" ... . idiots..


-Steven

[Evil Weasel]

Stevenryals has spent quite a bit of time hanging around here. What's to say HE isn't actually evil himself?

PS: Do you any places online I could catch matches?

[sweeney]

Just reading thru 3 and a half pages

Not bad for the first day. I haven't posted cos I am working nights, so if you all want to stay up during the night, we can bandy around ideas til 7am

Reading all the posts, it comes across that Steven is on a little witch hunt. Whether he proves to be correct is another matter, but he thinks he has picked up on something Billy has said

Hammer was the first to mention about "cops" coming forward and Billy posted about it as well, but I think it may have been more tongue in cheek.

If anyone has acted suspiciously, it is Mr Ryals

[billyman]

im not liking what mr ryals is doing it seems to me that he thinks of himself as invincible as he is quite happy to attack everyone.

as steve has pointed out my comments have been tongue in cheek am im just trying to get the game started.

i have now made a fos descion.

FOS DER HAMMER

simply because he has involved himself very little and that has suprised me as the original game is his idea on these forums and i would of thought that hammer would be looking forward to getting a little more involved

[billyman]

 "you have called me the cop," qoute from steven


no i aint i havent called anyones roles.

stop trying to put thoughts in peeps head to divert the attention away from yerself

[ManicMonkeyMan]

Fosweasel its all in his fullname

[Sir Villain]

Evil Percentages
Billyman :    75%
Hippo   :     40%
Hammer:    10%
Amadjin:     60%
Fozza    :    70%
Dotleo  :    50%
Manic    :    10%
Church  :    20%

Steven seems to be hinting pretty strongly towards Billyman. Perhaps he is a cop and is subtly trying to say he got a guilty on Billyman. He called pretty early for a cop to come forward and now is attacking me for not posting that much when everyone can just read back and see I have posted a good amount compared to others.

You need a good explanation Billyman or im slapping the first real vote on you.

[ChurchofHalo]

Sorry hav'nt posted much, work and sleep have taken most of time recently, not sure about the evil percentages, much too early in the game to start listing things like that, is suspsicous Billys lack of posting and the way StevenRyals has gone for him, maybe he knows something we don;t.

FOS:Billyman

[dotLeo]

Steven seems to be hinting pretty strongly towards Billyman. Perhaps he is a cop and is subtly trying to say he got a guilty on Billyman. He called pretty early for a cop to come forward and now is attacking me for not posting that much when everyone can just read back and see I have posted a good amount compared to others.

You need a good explanation Billyman or im slapping the first real vote on you.

Reading back through his posts, this does seem a real possibility but there is the possibility that it is a bluff and he is looking for a scapegoat too.  All things considered I am inclined to think Billy is evil.

[fozza gump zzz]

jesus steven. your on a mission. i've only posted 3 times and apparently i'm a main suspect. i never even asked for people to role claim because i agree its damn stupid. all i'm saying is someone out there knows of innocents or evils. If that person is a townie and they know of an evil or an innocent, we need to find a way that they can tell us without handing themselves in. how about you look at this:

• DotLeo has posted only TWICE in the whole game. However he is one of steven's main suspects. Why? Because he FOS'd you steven. Is that a crime?
• If steven is making assumptions like this, why should we believe him on anything because all he is doing is fos ing anyone who has said a word about him

One of dotleos posts was just sayin how he's looking forward to the game so we'll ignore that one
One question steven. If FOS'ing you means dotleo gets 50% that he's guilty when he's only posted ONCE.
Just an example:
Manic Monkey Man has posted twice, (again if we exclude the "welcome post"), his two posts stated fakevote fozza and fos amadjin. If one FOS means someone is half guilty. does two fos's mean he is 100% guilty.

The answer will be from you "No he isnt"
You are quite right.
But do you know why Manic only gets 10% for FOS'ing two people and Dotleo gets 50% for FOS'ing 1 person?
BECAUSE DOTLEO DID A FOS ON YOU STEVEN.
So miraculously he gets an extra 40%.
Nice maths mate
your'e talking absolute BS.
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