Mafia 24 - Minions

[laserblue]

ive tried reading it both wasy laser, but its the wording which is making me confused...

you wouldn't know your not a minion anymore and you are not good.  WTF, wot would be the point in playing a game if you have no idea you are no longer what you were originaly and didnt know you had changed. its like your about to make love to a woman, but suddenly you have no knob and she fucks you up the ass with her new found batton... lol
VOTE STEVENRYALS As the first minion to be chosen for good .... i assume a comma should go here but vote for good?
, GOD (does this make TCH god ) granted me the insight to see into a soul ... ok he investigated steve...
and you are now evil.   so how would he know he had been changed? perhaps he investigated him twice?  if he investigated someone, wouldnt it of been easier to say i searched his soul and he is evil? not and now you are....

i guess only Miasg can clear this mess up. 

whichever way you look at it .... it would be suicide for miasg to lie about this

The way I'm lookin at it it's a no brainer ...

If someone else where on the good side & miasg was not they would be on here saying something

[Happy Axeman]

why would they? surely an evil team must have evil powers at some point to kill, so why would another good guy(if miasg is good ) oust themselves just to back him up? what good would that achieve to neutrals wanting to eliminate evil?

on the other hand a an evil player would be trying to goad out any good players as they are the main threat to them, which is what you seem to be doing laser? 

yes, you are correct.. i am 'not good'.. minions have no bias, no polarity.. no good no evil..

but then you say i'm evil..   which is it?  "not good"  or "evil"  they arent the same thing..

If TCH had sent you a PM saying anything it would have been one or the other.. not both..  you however, have mentioned both.. 

I dont understand that Steve, that comes accross to me at clutching at straws after disecting Miasgs post.

Unvote MIASG for now...

Maybe there has been no Night kills because the evil is within the non players ....
Alz, footynoob and Wes

[wesmancity]

Someone (at least) has already been recruited so thats 1 and 2 vs 6 minimum. (They both may have recruited making it 2 vs 2 vs 5.)

There are 3 teams the way I figure. Minions against 2 teams whether they be called good and evil isnt relevant. As far as I am concerned as I am still just a minion then they are both evil to me.

If I get recruited then this will change obviously. If we get lucky and take out the "Godfather like leader" then this gives us a huge advantage rather than let them recruit again making them even stronger.

Maybe they can only recruit on alternate nights. But I reckon this is just the start of the game and everyone will get recruited and it will end up a more straight forward 2 team mafia game. Get me?

You are really trying to convince me you dont have a side here, but you have got a side havent you. You have been recruited by someone or recruting yourself!

[wesmancity]

I see this game more like a school yard kind of pick your own teams style. Remember when picking teams for footy you have 2 captains then you take turns to pick lol. Looking back those kids that got picked last all the time must have felt really bad..........ah well shouldn't have been so shit really should they!

Again this reffers to a slip again by you, You have already been picked havent you mike.

Its a clear indication when you put the minions as THEY, which mean you are not one of them.

[Alz]

Going to trust miasg on this one.  If it turns out to be wrong then he gets my vote next round.

On the other hand, I guess it could backfire and turn out to be a little more complex than we think but hey i'm willing to take the risk.

vote steveryals

[wesmancity]

My take on it so far;

Mike is on a team

Happy is on a team, if he wasnt at the start he is now.

Steve is on a team.

The confusing part is if you got picked on the good team, why not shout and tell people you have

been recruited by such and such a person let that person back him up and then get the rest of us

to vote the evil off.

[MIASG]

Happy you are doing your best to try and defend Steve and confuse and twist

I'm saying StevenRyals is NOT a minion he his evil 100%.    You all did not get a message because you are still either minions or evil I suggest.  I am also saying that I am no longer a minion I've been turned to good - thought that was rather obvious.  I also didn't say I could do this again and again.

I was going to wait a little longer but with a small crowd playing I could easily be voted off at night (my time) without saying anything.   Steve posted straight up and I decided to take the risk. 

looking into a person soul is not turning them to the good side ... it is not a recruit. 

I said "GOD granted me the insight to see into a soul and you are now evil."  meaning if he was a minion as he said he was then he is no longer a minion and has either been recruited to evil or he is infact the evil leader.   It wasn't a kind of message reply where it was not good meaning could be evil or minion ... evil is evil.   Vote steve off and that's 1 less for evil.   If I was evil why would I come out and say vote off a player who still is trying to maintain he is a minion and not evil - if I was evil I'd just recruit him wouldn't I ?  I have nothing to gain from this.   He is 100% evil and voting for me will kill off good and leave evil with 1 more.   Minions left this should make sense to you.   I suspect Mike and Happy may be evil more then minions as well by there responses- happy more then mike though.   

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

Well some interesting posts and some votes

Steve 3 Votes    miasg, laser, alz
miasg  1 Vote     steve


5 votes are required for a lynch or the deadline is midnight Monday UK time

[Happy Axeman]

i find it funny how both Wes and Alz posted just after i mentioned them? 

Miasg thats fine, I was only showing you how i saw it. and have duly held my investigations at a pace and it resulted in a post by steve at the end resulting me to confirm in my own head that Steve is evil. the question next is who is the evil leader there needs to be more questioning and responses, which is why i always vote people early and often, you get no feedback otherwise.
I would initially look at Mikeblue, I noted early in the game he appeared confused...he is always useless at evil, which could explain why he isnt contributing as much as usual...
I am against people roleclaiming especially very early on, and multiple roleclaiming just ruins the spirit of the game, as it an easy way out of using your brain and doing things the hard way but hey, your role claim got the game going but it now puts you as an target for the evil if they have a kill action. 

[Dickens Cider]

Well this is confusing as !!... MIASGS poor wording did nothing to help anyone along the way...
That post could have been made a hell of a lot more clearer...
It's weird not having any comms during the night phase too... seems like nothing is actually going on... which I guess is the case for us minions... just sitting here bopping our heads... (i seem to picture us in "despicable me" style)

The main thing I have picked up from all this is steves blatant straw clutching... i think Happy picked up on it aswell...
I mean dissecting MIAGS post that pedantically...?? come on.... !!

VOTE Stevenryals  within all the confusion... you were able to make yourself look evil... and therefore backing up MIASGS claim...
and as other have said... if steve turns out to be good... then MIASG is a definite lynch tomorrow...

Not to mention Mike is still looking suss from earlier in the game... But there are bigger fish to fry right now...

[stevenryals]

4 votes already..

it's not clutching at straws FBN & Axe.. it's a valid question.. if he is telling the truth and his PM said that i am "not good" or "not with him" then that's fully correct..  which is why i pointed it out..  take it how you like.. doesnt matter much anyway..  4 votes.. only one needed now..

[MIASG]

. the question next is who is the evil leader there needs to be more questioning and responses

who said steve is or isn't the leader .. I just said he's 100% evil.

4 votes already..

it's not clutching at straws FBN & Axe.. it's a valid question.. if he is telling the truth and his PM said that i am "not good" or "not with him" then that's fully correct..  which is why i pointed it out..  take it how you like.. doesn't matter much anyway..  4 votes.. only one needed now..

I've already said I received no such message as "not good" or "not with him" ... I know you are 100% evil my friend.   

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

on the brink

Steve 4 Votes    miasg, laser, alz, fbn
miasg  1 Vote     steve

5 votes are required for a lynch or the deadline is midnight Monday UK time

[*Afroboy*]

I think I should've stuck with how I saw it in the first place rather than re-reading and over analysing it. I am going to vote stevenryals as it is obvious that miasg is telling the truth here, i believe axeman has fought valiantly to protect his evil mate, and he almost convinced me i was wrong at one point, but the game is up.

[wesmancity]

i find it funny how both Wes and Alz posted just after i mentioned them? 

Well?

Spit it out!, I am intrigued to what you mean by this?

Because there is no possible way I know when he’s on and he doesn’t know when I am on!

So tell the game

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

The minions led by miasg whisk Steve away and take him to the nearest tree to lynch him. As his last breath disappears his body transforms into something dark and hideous.

Steve was a demon !!

Patting miasg on the back you head into the night phase

Night actions please

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

We are back, day three, no deaths but as each night passes there are less minions


Deadline is midnight Friday UK time, or if we get 5 votes for a lynch

[stevenryals]

im starting to hate these games.. whether good or evil.. somehow i'm out first..  LOL
except the last game.. did ok in that one..

i mean..


AARRRRRGGGG..!!!!!    or should i say..  MMMAAAARRRRRRGGG!!!!     (see what i did there?)

[Happy Axeman]

lol @steve
I guess I'm gonna be out next because of my 'apparent' defending of steve as quoted by many of you. when in reality all i was doing was sussing everything out in my head... and if you read the development of my thinking you will see I did conclude that steve was evil in the end...
If you want to believe i defended steve, ask yourself why would i if i really knew he was evil. I would of stayed and supported Miasg without questioning his wording which is what alerted me. unlike Alz and wes who's only contribution came when the day was nearly finished offering virtualy nothing to the day infact most people offered nothing.
the way i see it,  Mikeblue looks most likely to be evil with the way he has played, but i'd be more concerned with all the sheep after miasgs claim... it made it too easy to coast if you were evil by just going with the flow.

[*Afroboy*]

Well?

Spit it out!, I am intrigued to what you mean by this?

Because there is no possible way I know when he’s on and he doesn’t know when I am on!

So tell the game

I think what he was trying to say was that you are both trying to hide and use the fact that people were thinking about miasg's post to keep on the down low.

I don't trust anyone in this game. Miasg could've quite easily recruited steve as evil then used him as leverage to make himself look good. Axeman, you say you changed your mind later on, but i had to re-read that post many times before I saw it as you did, looked like you were clutching at straws. Mike is playing a strange game, it's like he is out for himself only, he doesn't care about what happens as long as it's not him dying, seems pretty suspect to me. But then Alz, Wes and FB especially have gone missing for massive parts of this game and have made little contribution in actually rooting out evil, perhaps because they are the evil in hiding.