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[stevenryals]

FBN, I'm sus of you and a couple others because of the speed of the bandwaggon on wes..  Innocents usually don't jump that quickly on a bandwaggon on day one..  the players i mentioned were the ones I found most sus due to the fact that it was a bang bang bang type of "lets lynch him" moment..  

Personally, on day one i am reluctant to actually lynch someone unless it's clear cut..   which is why I usually make the 1st day drag on and on and on..   it just seems odd that quick bandwaggon.. and I agree with Villian that there are a couple of evils in that group..   Just not sure which ones..

p.s.  mophead isn't reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mophead]

i read every post up to yours tyvvm!!

[MIASG]

2 newest dudes in eddie and savechips both jumped eagerly onto a bandwagon .. could they both be excited and not realisingthe consequences .. or is one or both of them in the mafia ....seen a few mates vote and decided to get on that action ... 5 pages this time to get a role claim .. don't think even mafia would call out this character so early so unless a counter claim I'm believing Wes .. and yet some others are still attacking him .. that's a little strange in my eyes.  Gotta agree with wes when peeps talk about us they tend to be mafia .. FOS Footynewb, SaveChips, Munster, and Moppy (for just being moppy) still too early to vote for certain  .. if I had have believed just under half of us and voted for wes then we could possibly be down a townie now .. didn't sit right with me

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

ok Wes came close to being lynched, 1 vote away, but here are the current votes

Wes has 5 Votes
FBN has 2 Votes
Axe has 1 Vote

Here's who is voting for who

Player              Vote
Amadjin   
eddiemunster           Wes
filcoopa   
Footballnewb            Wes
Happy Axeman          Wes
MIASG   
Mikeblue   Axeman
Mophead   Wes
SaveChip55                      Wes
Stevenryals             FBN
SteveVanHalen   
Villian   
wesmancity             FBN

FYI the fact i am within hearing distance of Eddie/Miasg and FBN means they cannot talk about the game at work with fear of being modkilled. As all know talking outside the game is prohibited.

7 votes are required to cause a lynch

I think the only person not yet to post is Filcoopa
 

[savechip55]

Well Filcoopa has posted on the forum that 'its not for him,sorry' so it looks like man down already to me.  Where does this leave us?

[froganomis]

so let me get this straight - you are suspicous of me for voting for someone, despite the fact you voted for the same person first 

Thats absurd logic but I expect no less from someone who doesnt even know far his hometown is from the capital of his country. In fact I am starting to think that you have leapt from the bandwagon to try and absolve yourself from the blame of instigating it in case we lynched an innocent. I'l unvote wes purely on the fact that I am actually suspicous of someone on the first day for once and therefore I dont want to run the risk of lynching an innocent.

no im suspicious of you voting for wes just because everyone else did on the basis of you not liking the first day.just like i said the first time.just the same as your reason for voting
and to bring something in from another thread to justify your petty argument is just clutching at straws.
the reason i unvoted,which you've clearly skimmed over is because wes name claimed
and then as the cherry on top of the cake you unvote wes for the very reason you claim i unvoted him
you wreak of badness
Vote Steve Van Halen

[Steve Van Halen]

you reek of absurd logic and bad spelling. I have merely stated what I have done in many games, that the first day is random and uneventful and usually ends in an incorrect lynching.

You voted for me for not posting to start off with, which just so happened to be YOUR FIRST POST?! Hi mr pot, Im the kettle, you're black! I jumped on a bandwagon to get the game going as I thought it would help put an end to the uneventful first day, a bandwagon that you jumped on first after Axeman voted for Wes but your reasons were the same as Der Hammer used for declaring he was suspicious of Wes and you then jump off and vote for me. Its just bizarre. I suspect I am your patsy to make yourself look innocent when wes is lynched and turns out to be innocent.

vote amadjin, this isnt tit for tat, its a vote for a tit!

[Steve Van Halen]

regardless though amadjin, thanks for making the day eventful and giving me something to pick up on! perhaps I am wrong about you and give you too much credit but my hunch is that I'm right as its too bizarre to vote for someone with your first post because that person hasnt posted and then vote for the same person for jumping on a bandwagon that you have so proudly leapt onto previously

Der Hammer states that Wes doth protest too much

you state exactly the same and vote for him.

I see that hes on 5 and think that hes a gonner anyway so I add my vote to make it 6. I try not to post unless I have something to contribute and I had nothing to contribute but my vote.

Someone else unvotes stating that "your vote was only to ignite previous rivalry". So what was the reason, because of a previous rivalry or because he protested too much? Make your mind up.

This made me suspicious of you and gave me a reason not to end the day with a random lynch. Therefore I unvoted myself as I had something to contribute on the first day for once. Voting for someone who had jumped on the same bandwagon that you did just confirmed it to me. You are just trying to distance yourself from a random lynch as I suspect you know that Wes is innocent as you are mafia.

[froganomis]

if you actually read the whole post,both reasons are in there for unvoting him.so again your just not reading my posts,just skimming.the longer you dont read the whole of my posts the longer im gonna keep on.
when i voted for you in the beginning,it was my first post,yes.and given that no-one had posted anything worth a dime beforehand i voted you because you hadnt posted.no malice in it,just a simple first post.

regardless though amadjin, thanks for making the day eventful and giving me something to pick up on! perhaps I am wrong about you and give you too much credit but my hunch is that I'm right as its too bizarre to vote for someone with your first post because that person hasnt posted and then vote for the same person for jumping on a bandwagon that you have so proudly leapt onto previously

those straws are running out,your vote wasnt for bandwaggoning,it was the way you bandwaggoned.

You are just trying to distance yourself from a random lynch as I suspect you know that Wes is innocent as you are mafia.

or it could be another straw your clutching,he name claimed

[Steve Van Halen]

pot calling kettle black. sorry but you just dont make sense

[stevenryals]

Amadjin & SVH, you both look evil to me at the moment... but I cant see both of you being evil as you're so very concerned about each other..  

SVH seems to spend more time going after amadjin than Amadjin after SVH...while Amadjin says a lot of "clutching at straws" comments, rather than a full defense..  


on another Front..  It seems SaveChip55 has popped on and stated

Well Filcoopa has posted on the forum that 'its not for him,sorry' so it looks like man down already to me.  Where does this leave us?

So obviously he knows where this thread is..  yet chooses to only post the bit about filcoopa..

Fill will most likely be modkilled.. however, I may be able to convince Bluestars to take over his role if she's up to it..  Depending on what TCH chooses to do..  I'll talk to Bluestars & see what she says..

no need for a mod kill at this point

[Steve Van Halen]

I'll be totally honest and I missed Wes's role claim but unvoted him anyway as I thought genuine mafia members had leapt the bandwagon in an effort to exonerate themselves from blame. I confess I do skim slightly, especially if one person posts excessively and only read the post after he role claimed which was aimed at me.

I only just found it by going to Wes's profile and reading through his posts, this is how I find all patterns.

Im going after amadjin because his use of absurd logic looks dodgy to me. He uses points other people make as his own and seemed to have made his mind up about me before I even managed to get one post in. That to me is dodgy

[MIASG]

I jumped on a bandwagon to get the game going as I thought it would help put an end to the uneventful first day, a bandwagon that you jumped on first after Axeman voted for Wes but your reasons were the same as Der Hammer used for declaring he was suspicious of Wes and you then jump off and vote for me. Its just bizarre. I suspect I am your patsy to make yourself look innocent when wes is lynched and turns out to be innocent.

vote amadjin, this isnt tit for tat, its a vote for a tit!

... So many haven't said much and you want day to end rather quickly .. if not mafia then serial killer or something I reckon .. I'd rather day 1 go on for a while longer SVH so I can try to work out a few things .. VOTE SVH for being more evil then Adamjin who really doesn't look that squakey clean either .. could be mafia trying to keep the other in longer but I think SVH is not good at all .. and Amadjin might be just as bad but not the same evil ...

SVH just posted

seemed to have made his mind up about me before I even managed to get one post in. That to me is dodgy

same way you made you mind up that wes was mafia ?  with no logic? 

[Steve Van Halen]

i didnt make my mind up that he was evil, first lynch is always random and he had 5 votes at the time. I confess to jumping on the bandwagon to get the first day over with same as I always do and liked the odds.

In fact despite missing Wes's role claim I was convinced that he was innocent because amadjin looked so dodgy and he helped that bandwagon gather momentum same as he has started the one on me.

[stevenryals]

Im going after amadjin because his use of absurd logic looks dodgy to me. He uses points other people make as his own and seemed to have made his mind up about me before I even managed to get one post in. That to me is dodgy

Do you mind quoting these instances so I can see what your are talking about fully and factually?

[Steve Van Halen]

Villains post

perhaps the lady doth protest too much? refering to wes's bout of defensive posts

Unvote

Very strange that you would feel so threatened by some minor allegations from someones first post.


Don't need to explain myself, just checking if anyone rushed onto the third vote bandwagon.

Que 2 posts by Wes followed by

So your defence is that you act the same good or bad, but we have your assurance that your good. Defending yourself so stauchly under no real pressure seems abit odd...

A few more posts followed by

Unvote SVH,Vote Wesmancity

you've protested far too much wes...
then complaining the games not picking up enough,i reckon you'd like it to pick up so you can try and disappear under the radar

Blatantly copying Der Hammer/Villains reasoning. Steveryals voted for Amadjin with a hunch - Response?

oh go away,have a hunch.pfft lol.quasimodo eh... im not who you need to be looking at

And then of course its all ok, he didnt actually mean to get a bandwagon going

eddie blatently bandwaggoning because he's new?? or because he is actually tiny penis?

anyway unvote wes i wanted to spark a bit of rivalry from the retro days,see if i could pick something up,but wes didnt bite not to you, no, he bit big time to Villain and Axeman making himself look suspicious and attract attention

then everyone followed me yes, you started a bandwagon as i have pointed out

so the point was lost...moreover,the name claim i cant disprove so i cant vote for him on that basis...distancing yourself from starting a bandwagon on an innocent?

SVH so because you dont like the first day you voted for wes because everyone else did...something dodgy about this... yes, especially since you started it!FOS SVH

I have no doubt that if it wasnt for a role claim that Wes would be lynched by now and amadjin would not have removed his vote

[Steve Van Halen]

listen folks, I am not one to normally react so strongly to just one vote. I normally just ignore them as quite often people are just testing the water and reacting attracts unwanted attention. This time however I truly suspect that amadjin is evil and his grounds for voting for me are suspect, hence why I have launched so vigorous a defence. Hell, in most games I dont even cast a vote on the first day as I normally find it pointless but I think I am either onto something or amadjin is just full of it.

[Steve Van Halen]

Just going to point out one last thing. Forget that most of the following doesnt make much sense because of both bad spelling and the lack of spaces between some characters.

no im suspicious of you voting for wes just because everyone else did on the basis of you not liking the first day.just like i said the first time.just the same as your reason for voting
and to bring something in from another thread to justify your petty argument is just clutching at straws.
the reason i unvoted,which you've clearly skimmed over is because wes name claimed
and then as the cherry on top of the cake you unvote wes for the very reason you claim i unvoted him
you wreak of badness
Vote Steve Van Halen

Strange that because I listed this as my reason for unvoting and at the time I didnt realise that Wes had role claimed, which in all fairness he had to do considering he was one vote away from lynching

so let me get this straight - you are suspicous of me for voting for someone, despite the fact you voted for the same person first 

Thats absurd logic but I expect no less from someone who doesnt even know far his hometown is from the capital of his country. In fact I am starting to think that you have leapt from the bandwagon to try and absolve yourself from the blame of instigating it in case we lynched an innocent. I'l unvote wes purely on the fact that I am actually suspicous of someone on the first day for once and therefore I dont want to run the risk of lynching an innocent.

That person I was suspicious of I can obviously now state was and is amadjin.

So the question I ask to amadjin is did you unvote wes because he role claimed or because like me you suspected someone else? Because so far you have given about 3 different reasons.

[froganomis]

Im going after amadjin because his use of absurd logic looks dodgy to me. He uses points other people make as his own and seemed to have made his mind up about me before I even managed to get one post in. That to me is dodgy

i use other peoples posts to form a base to point out my opinion of them,just as other people do.so just as 'dodgy' as everyone else

anyway unvote wes i wanted to spark a bit of rivalry from the retro days,see if i could pick something up,but wes didnt bite then everyone followed me,so the point was lost...moreover,the name claim i cant disprove so i cant vote for him on that basis...

SVH so because you dont like the first day you voted for wes because everyone else did...something dodgy about this... FOS SVH

SVH,theres both the reasons in one post like i told you,also the reason i found you suspicious to begin with.
going after me so vigorously has jack all to do with you having a hunch.its because im going after you.
as i said to mr.ryals a few days ago when i called him quasimodo,im not the one people need to look at

[stevenryals]

im not the one people need to look at

lol..  ok then, that's all I needed to hear..   so Wes & Amadjin are innocents...

you know the rules..  once 2 people say they're innocent.. someone has to claim guilty..

Chip?  Eddie?  either one of you on the evil team?  Just go ahead and tell us, we won't be mad at you or anything..