Mafia 18: Stevens Random Mafia: Town Win

[Mikeblue]

Lets not ignore the fact that after day 1 being so good for the town there is a real possibility Steve either put in another cult, another serial killer if there was already one or another mafia member. For this reason I think Manic is sus!

[Steve Van Halen]

how can you not like cheese?! 

good shout by manic but Im not sure if we should read too much into that

[laserblue]

how can you not like cheese?! 

good shout by manic but Im not sure if we should read too much into that

I didn't say I don't like cheese ... I just don't know what it got to do with the mafia games?

I agree a good post from manic but still no post from currie or anything worthwhile from mophead

[Steve Van Halen]

i think we can pretty much rule out a decent post from mophead but thats not a reason in itself to vote for him

[MIASG]

OK I can now see that assumption was probably the wrong word to use - I was more looking into who possibly killed bluestars as that's still the big mystery.  Your right TCH your vote is your vote but to me peeps seem to be voting for mophead for 2 reasons albiet linked reasons .. 1 for not posting enough - fair enough and I agree.. the other for being suss for not posting enough .. this I think is shite.  there are plenty others not contributing and mophead to me plays this way when he's town.  Steve's already warned the non posters to post or risk being dumped from the game if he doesn't improve his participation then he'll be gone good or bad.   

[Steve Van Halen]

Folks Im not going to be around until Wednesday evening as Im going to Manchester to see AC/DC at the MEN

[ManicMonkeyMan]

1, I never said that Mophead was more sus than Currie, so you are putting words in my mouth.
Currie at least trys to contribute to the cause and all i said about Mophead was that hes doing very little for us as a town with his rubbish posts. Do you not agree?

2, I asked you a question about why are you keen to lynch Currie and you havent answerd the question, so to me you are now trying to avoid the question, or is it the fact at you dont really no why you are keen to lynch him?.

3, the fact that you have completly ignored my questions and the fact you dont know why you want currie lynched means you are skimming.

This now makes me think you are deffending mophead with your deffencive post's.

haha, everyones suspicous at the moment to me, ive only just joined the game as a replacement so i missed the whole 1st day............. i said currieman was suspicous just to get a rise and a response(which hasnt happened) so me accusing currieman has really got your back up hey....... so i question you then you turn around and say that im defending mophead............ if u read my very 1st post, you will see that i was suspicous of mophead aswell as currieman....... so why would i start to defend him .....i agree that mophead doesnt contribute alot so its hard to get a read of him...... likewise with currie and a few others

[wesmancity]

MANIC VS WES

SO THIS IS HOW IT STARTED

One thing thats worring me on day two is why are we so keen to lynch Currie? Manic you say Currie is your main suspect why? I think we are playing into the mafia's hands if we lynch Currie so quickly. We need to make sure that its the right desition, for me I feel it's not right to all jump with the lynch.

I believe that we need to concentrate on the non posters atm and get them playing as this game is pointless unless they get involved. I have asked Mophead to contribute more and I get nothing, to me thats more sus than Currie atm.

THEN YOU PIPE UP

so you say mopheads more suspicous than currieman.......... ........because mophead hasnt contributed much, then that makes him suspicous... so currieman is equally as inactive yet he isnt as suspicous to you.......... mmmmmmm sticking up for your mafia pal then maybe

WHICH THEN I STATE A BLATANT LIE, SEEING IF YOU PICK IT UP SAYING THAT I NEVER SAID MOPHEAD WAS MORE SUS THAN CURRIE.

1, I never said that Mophead was more sus than Currie, so you are putting words in my mouth.
Currie at least trys to contribute to the cause and all i said about Mophead was that hes doing very little for us as a town with his rubbish posts. Do you not agree?

2, I asked you a question about why are you keen to lynch Currie and you havent answerd the question, so to me you are now trying to avoid the question, or is it the fact at you dont really no why you are keen to lynch him?.

3, the fact that you have completly ignored my questions and the fact you dont know why you want currie lynched means you are skimming.

This now makes me think you are deffending mophead with your deffencive post's.

NOW YOU POSTED THIS AFTER, AND I THOUGH IF YOU WASNST SKIMMING THEN SURELY YOU WOULD OF PICKED UP MY BLATENT LIE, BUT YOUR POST NEVER SAID ANTHING OF THE SORT.

haha, everyones suspicous at the moment to me, ive only just joined the game as a replacement so i missed the whole 1st day............. i said currieman was suspicous just to get a rise and a response(which hasnt happened) so me accusing currieman has really got your back up hey....... so i question you then you turn around and say that im defending mophead............ if u read my very 1st post, you will see that i was suspicous of mophead aswell as currieman....... so why would i start to defend him .....i agree that mophead doesnt contribute alot so its hard to get a read of him...... likewise with currie and a few others

You really need to read the first day again and see how i questioned Currie myself and also you need to understand why i am voting mophed. Because if i never said what i said to him then he wouldnt of posted at all, and why would this be good for the town?

[stevenryals]

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[laserblue]

Says bucketloads to me all of the stuff that people have just said. I do need to get the chance to read back on the last day and then I will make a good post about the stuff that I pick up on but with work today and going out tonight that ain't gonna happen tonight so will have to wait till I get home from work tomorrow.

The bandwagon was slowly starting to form there. Fair play to Axeman as he had a reason to vote but everyone else just jumped on Mike, you just did EXACTLY what you were accusing me of. I have already explained why I thought you were suspicious if you would go back and read my posts you numbskull! You did the commentary post exactly like I supposedly did before you so you're just as suspicious as me if that's the way you're going about! You were right about Bluestars so fair play, that's it, otherwise you just did exactly the same as I did.

Anyway, I don't really have much to contribute till I have a read back I just thought it prudent to comment on the bandwagonage and Mikeblue being a hypocrite.

not everyone else just jumped on...I've been asking you to be a bit more proactive since part way through the first day... i've played a few games with you now & know you can
be a valuable player .... but this time practicaly nothing? if you are mafia its a good tactic cause if you got voted of there would be nothing in your posts to give anything away?
away?

I don't want to vote off a town player so if your town please get involved..

Mike is also a lot quieter in this game than he is usually? 

[laserblue]

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vote count please

[stevenryals]

Not much to report

Vote Count
3: Mophead: (Laserblue, Wesmancity, TCH)
2: Currieman: (Happyaxeman, Mikeblue)

[ManicMonkeyMan]

MANIC VS WES

SO THIS IS HOW IT STARTED

THEN YOU PIPE UP

WHICH THEN I STATE A BLATANT LIE, SEEING IF YOU PICK IT UP SAYING THAT I NEVER SAID MOPHEAD WAS MORE SUS THAN CURRIE.

NOW YOU POSTED THIS AFTER, AND I THOUGH IF YOU WASNST SKIMMING THEN SURELY YOU WOULD OF PICKED UP MY BLATENT LIE, BUT YOUR POST NEVER SAID ANTHING OF THE SORT.

You really need to read the first day again and see how i questioned Currie myself and also you need to understand why i am voting mophed. Because if i never said what i said to him then he wouldnt of posted at all, and why would this be good for the town?

fuck me thats some post wes!!!!! ive just read through the 1st day, and immediatley forgot most of what i read!! the way i see it, axeman has got things spot on so far, so im gonna put my faith in him and vote currieman, axemans claim that he got rid of one mafia last nite means that hes not gonna receive a vote 2day, so i would imagine that he would be likely to be the main target for the mafia in the night phase.

[ManicMonkeyMan]

well I had 2 suspects going into day 2 and they are both dead .. FBN and bluestars so I admit I'm lost on who to suspect now as everyone else is about hte same to me .. possibly evil.  

Bit concerned about 2 things - random weapons at night..  and armour maker.   Happy can you elaborate about your weapon post anymore ?  does this make you a temp SK/Vig or do you have this "power" until you die?  and if Wes is right then start posting mophead - doesn't appear that low posters will be randomly killed today. Also wouldn't it take 6 votes with 10 people playing to be voted off?  is it 5 Steven or 6 ?

so you would say that they were your 2 main suspects after they died, yet u still voted amadjin.... great diversion from yourself, leading me to believe that you are indeed another member of the mafia.......to members down and straight away you decide that they were sus to you mmmmmmmmmmm unvote currieman vote miasg MAFIA SCUM

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

i was just going back looking over the previous few pages and i have a few obsevations about Steve's post to start the day

I thought to myself, what a waste.. That was a brand new oven.  I ordered the oven removed for repairs.  Low and behold, underneath was the town Gun Smith, Mike Hunt.  He was holding two pistols nearly fully loaded.  It bothered me that he was missing a few rounds from his clip.   But he had been smashed by the Oven.  It was a horrible sight to behold.  I thought I may barf.  Until the clerk read from Mike Hunt's note pad.  "Must kill Sqares... must kill squares.."   It turns out Mr. Hunt was one of the mafia, in fact he was the feared leader of the mafia.  So I congratulated the townfolk.

The bit i bolded here seems a bit strange seeing as Afro was only shot between the eyes, which wouldn't take a few rounds. Why be bothered by it, or does this signify something for this night phase ?

Later, in the same hour, we found Kotets Shinto, who was making some type of armour.  She was carrying a note from Mike Hunt that said "I'm off to kill Squares, I need armour for tomorrow, make it strong enough to stop anything"...  Seems they were in cahoots.. maybe Kotets should have made him some anti-oven armour!!

This doesn't say how she dies, when with FBN and Afro were given descriptions on how or what killed them.


So with the players left, there are 9 of us, 5 have gone 2 town, 2 mafia and 1 cult leader, plus we have gained manic. The general rule of thumb would be to have somewhere around 5-6 non town roles for a starting cast of 13. The inclusion of the cult would be in that 5-6. So if we have removed 3 already unless Manic has been given an evil role the percentages are really against us for this lynch.

My general thought on certain peeps

Wes   posting a fair bit this game as in the last when he was a town character, i currently feel he is good

MIASG   not sure, has tried to have a go back after i pointed out he had not read the death scene properly

Axeman  Has come out about what happened during the night would have to assume is a town role
 
Currie    Has not been active much since the heat went on him with a couple of votes

Mikeblue   Has not been on much be if mafia i would have expected him to jump on the voting for Amadjin but he stayed on Shoz. Bizzare posts as usual but think he is town now.

Laserblue   Can't work Laser yet

Mophead    2 stupid posts and no input to helping find the other mafia, hence my vote

Manic   strong chance Steve might have given you a non town role after the first day/night deaths but will give you time to slip up or show your worth to the town.


The vote count is i believe

Vote Count
3: Mophead: (Laserblue, Wesmancity, TCH)
2: Currieman: (Happyaxeman, Mikeblue)
1: miasg: (Manic)

and we have till friday to decide

[Tommy Caton's Hairstylist]

oh i just noticed this with SVH going back through

on day one he posts on page 11

The Axeman NEEDS SOME CHEESE and less beer as he is always the one who thinks everyone is suspicious on the first day, perhaps more dairy products and less booze will help clear his head

then today on page 14

i get the feeling MIASG needs some cheese! I hope im right

maybe that is the trigger to get the weapon for the night action ? Day one he mentions Axe and he is passed a weapon during the night, if miasg is passed a weapon tonight then you would think that to be the case ?

Therefore perhaps the doctor, assuming there is one, might want to save SVH tonight as if correct that would make SVH a town player. What does everyone else think ? Maybe SVH can elabourate on his return.

[MIASG]

I'd say that's very good pick up if true - and that I won't be excercising the option at night if there's a possibility of killing town(remember me in 24 ?  we still won though) - I've said all along today that I'm no closer to knowing who's mafia/evil as I had strong feelings with FBN and Bluestars.  It's also why I haven't voted so far today.  I've got no problem with someone protecting SVH just in case - but it just paints me as the obvious target tonight.  No point saving me as I've got no powers to help out apart from normal day voting posting etc. 

Manic make up your mind .. one post you vote currie then 5 mins later your voting me .. I'm trying to figure out if your a serial voter or sent in to stir up as much trouble as you can.

Mophead can you get back on and convince the others your town before they vote you off - I'm pretty sure you are

[ManicMonkeyMan]

I'd say that's very good pick up if true - and that I won't be excercising the option at night if there's a possibility of killing town(remember me in 24 ?  we still won though) - I've said all along today that I'm no closer to knowing who's mafia/evil as I had strong feelings with FBN and Bluestars.  It's also why I haven't voted so far today.  I've got no problem with someone protecting SVH just in case - but it just paints me as the obvious target tonight.  No point saving me as I've got no powers to help out apart from normal day voting posting etc. 

Manic make up your mind .. one post you vote currie then 5 mins later your voting me .. I'm trying to figure out if your a serial voter or sent in to stir up as much trouble as you can.

Mophead can you get back on and convince the others your town before they vote you off - I'm pretty sure you are

i voted currie, then decided to go back a few pages to see whether i missed something, which i believed i did, hence my sudden change of vote............. even though i did vote you, you havnt replied to my actual vote against you, all you said was Manic make up your mind .. one post you vote currie then 5 mins later your voting me .. I'm trying to figure out if your a serial voter or sent in to stir up as much trouble as you can not exactally a reply to my post against you is it....... hiding something are you???

[Happy Axeman]

Axeman, if Currieman was one of your suspects from day one why did you go for Footballnewb?

I read something and i thought he was the godfather, not gonna announce that on the forum which would of resulted in me being No.1 target? And is it turns out I killed the godfather... So what would you of prefered? me to not kill the godfather? I also suspected Bluestars and amadjin...

yeh he was talking about cheese last game too? said axeman ought too eat some? whats with the cheese man? lol

If you had been reading this game instead of skimming, you would of noticed it was THIS game he mentioned cheese...

which is what TCH has just said...
I noticed that days ago, and so should most others trying to help the town by reading back what has transpired, but I didnt want to post anything about it as you have now made SVH or the person he passes the cheese onto(MIASG) a target for mafia, and makes it a hard decision for the doctor(if we have one) to make.

[MIASG]

i voted currie, then decided to go back a few pages to see whether i missed something, which i believed i did, hence my sudden change of vote............. even though i did vote you, you havnt replied to my actual vote against you, all you said was Manic make up your mind .. one post you vote currie then 5 mins later your voting me .. I'm trying to figure out if your a serial voter or sent in to stir up as much trouble as you can not exactally a reply to my post against you is it....... hiding something are you???

was there actually a question in your vote for me?  you voted for me as you think I'm diverting.  Your entitled to think that but I think if you read back through all my posts manic and not just from day 2 when you started you might actually pick up clues that I'm town .. or as I said you've been thrown in to cause some havoc.  As far as I can tell you are a brand new person and not a replacement for someone like shoz.

I read something and i thought he was the godfather, not gonna announce that on the forum which would of resulted in me being No.1 target? And is it turns out I killed the godfather... So what would you of prefered? me to not kill the godfather? I also suspected Bluestars and amadjin...
If you had been reading this game instead of skimming, you would of noticed it was THIS game he mentioned cheese...

which is what TCH has just said...
I noticed that days ago, and so should most others trying to help the town by reading back what has transpired, but I didnt want to post anything about it as you have now made SVH or the person he passes the cheese onto(MIASG) a target for mafia, and makes it a hard decision for the doctor(if we have one) to make.

TCH has done this before in other games which I think makes it easier for mafia to target townies - but in that game he was town.  Still he can't know that I'm town or not (and neither can SVH) and if we are to believe all this cheese talk then I'm asking the doc to save SVH over me as he has a power to help and I don't - which makes me an easy target tonight - or I'll be left alone which will only highten suspicion on me .. either way it's not so bad for town as if I go then you'll know I was telling the truth otherwise they may make a wrong choice and we don't lose anyone.