Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

[Mikeblue]

Mike. Read what i actually said.

And like i've said, Tony Almeida is almost up there with Jack in his reliability and loyalty in the programme. He certainly isn't someone who fits an insane cop type scenario.

Like i said before, i'm not mafia or the godfather. But i don't expect you to just believe it, after all, i never believe anything any of you lot say, and that's the way to play. BUT, essentially, you're choosing guessing (badly) about me, over lynching someone you know is mafia. Sense? Nah.

Think a name right this second would help rather than give you time to imagine one up if that was the case.

[Happy Axeman]

Is that not abusive of Power Happy??? I can see there were 2 hidden but thought one was probably Ryalss.

Maybe they are cheating and plotting their next action as we have them by the short and curlys. Would be a great result if Hippo turned out to be Godfather lol.

no, I see there names in italic as i am admin, I took a guess that they were reading the thread. lol

Tony Almeida's the second most reliable and loyal character in the show. There's no chance he'd be dodgy. ANYONE who has seen the show should know this.

vote sir hammer

Axeman. Having played a mafia role with me, what tactics would i use? Would it involve a change of posting style for instance? Or would it be to go all out to make it look like you're playing the same?

I'm not the godfather. I'm not mafia. I'm not evil. If you want to lynch me based on finding me innocent, fair enough. But as the mafia already know who Jack and Tony are, and have taken out the the bodyguard/protection type role, does it really make sense to kill another townie to find out someone's mafia? Hammer's lying.

He creates roles every game. The mafia get given safe names to claim. Is it really that hard to work out what he's done?

why direct the conversation towards me, I havent voted you, Ive also said i'm still prepared to keep my vote on Wes. I'm merely stating i see mikeblues logic. Despite what you say hippo, you do seem strange in this game, and during the first day you were not really that helpfull to the town.
You and hammer do seem to be bouncing off each other, and you are both prime targets for Hammersbro to try and recruit.
Last game we were both mafia, we didnt really have the chance to confer much, as i was not around enough.

I have to Unvote:Mikeblue, Vote:Hippo. I'm innocent and Aaron Pierce. If Mikeblue is being 100% honest then I am now of the sole opinion that Hippo must be mafia because I know I'm not. He is very good at lying and spinning, but don't listen to him. Tony Almeida becomes a legend in 24, but in the first season he keep fucking up and trusting the wrong people, then he got locked up for Treason in another Season. He could easily be an insane cop.

Hippo, yesterday you demanded I claim. Now I demand you claim.

If Hippo is any Mafia Member and Mike is an Insane Cop then he would come up innocent because Insane cops just always get it wrong. I know Mikeblue is wrong about me, so he must be wrong with his innocent on Hippo. I'm sure Currie had this role in his Lost Mafia.

I wouldnt have a clue about roles, I have never watched 24.  But this is very interesting. lol
Que Hippo to come back with a role claim from wiki... bloody shit loads of possible chars. 

If you read through the last few pages I think you have to vote Hippo in all honesty.

Just look at the style he has written things in. Just stirring and never fully commiting on anything.

Would like to hear other peoples ideas though.

totaly agree. look at the stevenryals lynch for example.

[hippo]

Think a name right this second would help rather than give you time to imagine one up if that was the case.

David 'fucking' Palmer.

Good enough?

[Mikeblue]

David 'fucking' Palmer.

Good enough?

Means nothing to me anyway???

[hippo]

Means nothing to me anyway???

I'm one of the main characters in the show. But there you go.

Well done on exposing me to the mafia too. They know Jack, Tony and me now. And have killed the protection person.

And based on what? Me being found innocent and Hammer being found guilty?

Nice one.

[Mikeblue]

What makes this so tough right now is that before today I geniunly thought Sir Hammer was guilty and Hippo inocent and I had a feeling Axeman could be mafia. So bearing that in mind why am I being swayed? My head is gone right now lol. Going to re read and wait for other peeps comments.

Could Hippo be innocent and could Happy be helping evil Sir Hammer stitch him up??? But Hippo has not been much help this game so I don't know..... lololololo

[Mikeblue]

I'm one of the main characters in the show. But there you go.

Well done on exposing me to the mafia too. They know Jack, Tony and me now. And have killed the protection person.

And based on what? Me being found innocent and Hammer being found guilty?

Nice one.

What do you think I should have done? Said nothing???

You seem to be relying on this you innocent and Hammer guilty a lot but you are now ignoring the possibilty that I could be a crazy cop???

Have I not outed Hammer as Jacks bodyguard too lol.

[hippo]

Right. Hammer's role was David Palmer's bodyguard, not Jack's. The fact that i am David Palmer, and knew nothing of this, made me not believe it 100%, but thought it still might be true (like in the last game, where you knew nothing of amadjin).

The fact that you've found him guilty makes me think he's guilty. The fact that you're Tony Almeida makes me think you're not crazy.

And no, i didn't expect you to say nothing. I expect you to find someone guilty, and vote for them. Rather than guessing that you're insane. I know it happened last game, but it's extremely unlikely. And if you've found me innocent, i know 100% that it's not true.

[Happy Axeman]

dont be swayed Mike, I am not mafia.

Means nothing to me anyway???

according to wiki, he is the president.

I'm one of the main characters in the show. But there you go.

Well done on exposing me to the mafia too. They know Jack, Tony and me now. And have killed the protection person.

And based on what? Me being found innocent and Hammer being found guilty?

Nice one.

no its based on the way you have sat back, and ran a commentry.
So isnt hammer supposed to be protecting you? yet you have claimed your bodygaurd is dead? I would of thought being the president you would be a mason too...

[Happy Axeman]

damn new replys. lol
hippo obviously saw his mistake about hammer being his bodygaurd..

Right. Hammer's role was David Palmer's bodyguard, not Jack's. The fact that i am David Palmer, and knew nothing of this, made me not believe it 100%, but thought it still might be true (like in the last game, where you knew nothing of amadjin).

The fact that you've found him guilty makes me think he's guilty. The fact that you're Tony Almeida makes me think you're not crazy.

And no, i didn't expect you to say nothing. I expect you to find someone guilty, and vote for them. Rather than guessing that you're insane. I know it happened last game, but it's extremely unlikely. And if you've found me innocent, i know 100% that it's not true.

so your saying you are indeed mafia?

UNVOTE WESMANCITY
VOTE HIPPO the godfather

[hippo]

So isnt hammer supposed to be protecting you? yet you have claimed your bodygaurd is dead?

See, the point where you're going wrong is that you're believing Hammer. He's not Aaron Pierce. He's lying.

I genuinely don't understand why i'm the focus here. I've been found innocent and Hammer found guilty.. why am i therefore the prime suspect?

I've told you who i am.

damn new replys. lol
hippo obviously saw his mistake about hammer being his bodygaurd..so your saying you are indeed mafia?

UNVOTE WESMANCITY
VOTE HIPPO the godfather

Are you on the windup? I was quite clearly saying that him being insane was not true. And i get accused of twisting words?

[Mikeblue]

And no, i didn't expect you to say nothing. I expect you to find someone guilty, and vote for them. Rather than guessing that you're insane. I know it happened last game, but it's extremely unlikely. And if you've found me innocent, i know 100% that it's not true.
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Thats what I did and you questioned it thats why its sus!

[hippo]

Thats what I did and you questioned it thats why its sus!

Because i had no idea who you were or what you were claiming at the time. I actually said i believed you, but wanted to hear Hammer's claim. If you actually go back and read what i said.

[Mikeblue]

At least someone noticed. Steven is one of the players that the majority dont like to even challenge. In this case I think I put forward a theory that was completely ignored and makes sense with every action.

1.Miasg came out as Bauer, and after some shocking play from Yorkshire, was looking at Yorkshire at his main target.
2.Steven told Miasg to pick one townie, and the rest of the town would fall in line and lynch him.
3.Me and a few others criticised that plan, so it was dropped.
4.Miasg eventually does choose Yorkshire, but now the town is unsure so doesnt fall in line.

Who looks suspicious in this sequence? Steven knew Miasg would pick Yorkshire when he said it so to me that indicates either Steven is a cop with a Guilty on Yorkshire, or he is a mafia member who knows Yorkshire is Innocent, and spots an easy lynch which he cant be blamed for since "Jack Bauer ordered everyone to". I unvoted Steven out of frustration since until now, absolutely no one has even looked at my claims.

Perhaps him and Hippo could be part of a dangerous mafia and playing a very smart game. Hippo has not got his teeth into anyone yet like he normally does, but there has not been a single. major defining issue so maybe thats why, but I still have some doubts about the both of them.

If Yorkshire does get lynched, and turns up town, then in my mind that just puts more weight onto my suspiscions of Steven.


Also those criticising people for "being too scared" to get on the bandwagon, shut up! Not everyone thinks Yorkshire is mafia, so everyone doesnt want to be associated with a bad lynch. We have investigated too much in this day now, and we need the right result, or at least a result that puts us in good stead for tomorrow.

This is the post that bugs me though. This is what made me think he was mafia.

He tries to link Hippo and Steve and had a few pops at Steve before this? Steve turns out to be town???

I am changing my mind again. Common sense tells me I have a guilty on Hammer so really I have to go with that in reality. VOTE SIR HAMMER. If he turns out mafia Happy you will be next for sure!

[Mikeblue]

VOTE SIR HAMMER

[Happy Axeman]

See, the point where you're going wrong is that you're believing Hammer. He's not Aaron Pierce. He's lying.

I genuinely don't understand why i'm the focus here. I've been found innocent and Hammer found guilty.. why am i therefore the prime suspect?

I've told you who i am.

Are you on the windup? I was quite clearly saying that him being insane was not true. And i get accused of twisting words?

no, you see your on the rack, your back is against the wall and your now struggling because you know we have both you and hammer..
ok, i'll split you post up more, and not miss anything out like you do...

Right. Hammer's role was David Palmer's bodyguard, not Jack's. The fact that i am David Palmer, and knew nothing of this, made me not believe it 100%, but thought it still might be true (like in the last game, where you knew nothing of amadjin).

you Realise the mistake and try covering up.

The fact that you've found him guilty makes me think he's guilty. The fact that you're Tony Almeida makes me think you're not crazy.

Yeah, after reading tonnes of previous posts and patterns this morning, i think Mike blue is also sane, and we have stumbled upon the conclusion we have the godfather and henchman.

And no, i didn't expect you to say nothing. I expect you to find someone guilty, and vote for them. Rather than guessing that you're insane. I know it happened last game, but it's extremely unlikely. And if you've found me innocent, i know 100% that it's not true.

but you just said that you believe he is sane and them assume he thinks he is insane, i think he thinks he is sane. 
so your saying his result is 100% not true, but is actually true and you are the godfather.
theres still tonnes of other peeps yet to see the days events, and we need more opinions. but I really do believe we have Hippo, Hammer and Wes on the run.

I am changing my mind again. Common sense tells me I have a guilty on Hammer so really I have to go with that in reality. VOTE SIR HAMMER. If he turns out mafia Happy you will be next for sure!

what are you going on about? since the revelations, ive been saying i actually believe Hammer to be evil too. can not see i'm trying to get to the bottom of it all? do you not read? jeees. 

[Mikeblue]

I read everything just swapping and changing to get reactions 

I know in my head what I think (I think) going to wait to see what unfolds now.

[hippo]

but you just said that you believe he is sane and them assume he thinks he is insane, i think he thinks he is sane. 
so your saying his result is 100% not true, but is actually true and you are the godfather.

I've got to go out now so have no time, but if mike or someone wants to quote a few of the times he's actually said himself he thinks he might be insane/paranoid or whatever. I'm not assuming anything, he said it. And the fact that he voted for me initially proves it.

If you're voting for me because you think i'm the godfather, do you not think that's a bit silly? I've told you who i am. It's hardly a name i could claim without actually being him.

And as you think he's sane, you're making a 1 in 10 guess that i'm the godfather and voting on it, rather than a 100% guarantee that Hammer's evil. Why? I think you're mafia together and are trying your best to take me out in a blaze of glory with you.

You also made similar comments about Steven "playing weirdly" on day one, before all of that suicide thing kicked off, and implied he could be the godfather. He was town. Now you're doing it with me. You're dodgy.

[Mikeblue]

This game is really kicking on now lol.

I'm having a fun time 

Talk about a spanner in the works 

[MIASG]

Like i said before, i'm not mafia or the godfather.

you also don't say your town .. that leaves serial killer .. or as you claim the president 

claimed
Miasg - jack
Hammer - Town Role Blocker - Aaron - claim seems believable
mike (almeida) could be cop or paranoid cop .. although I think it strange you could investigate before it kicked off - there was no incident so why would you have reason to investigate?  (yes I know this isn't real life just my logic)Hippo - Pres.


unclaimed
trick pony - I'm sure he's town
bluestars
YB
Happy Axeman - talking the talk but know idea who he is in this
Afroboy - hiding .. mafia ?
Masterzulu
Wes

mike investigates hippo = good hammer = bad .. so we do 1 of 4 things ..
1) believe him as cop and kill hammer
2) believe him as paranoid cop and kill hippo
3) think he's lying and kill mikeblue
4) he's found godfather and henchman so we kill hippo first and risk it

but that leaves the others free .. and they just keep getting free rides. 

if we have found 2 mafia then they both have claimed believable roles .. At least they spelt their's right in the claim unlike mikeblue .. but we still have a possible serial killer out there ..

time for trick pony, bluestars, YB, Afroboy, Masterzulu, and Wes to get on and let us know ASAP if these role claims conflict at all .. as I see it I still have the most powerful night role for town and therefore the biggest threat.  During the day we are all equal townies. 

Hippo if you are the president and going by the claims wouldn't you try to possible save aaron peirce as if his claim is true he can save your bacon at night?