Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!

[hippo]

Sheriff Hackman?! That would be from The Unforgiven and would have nothing to do with the Spaghetti Westerns.

I call you out sir Vote Hammerbro

That changes things drastically. I'm not a western fan myself, but is that true? Good pick up if so. Part of the reason i was thinking he was telling the truth, was because it would be an absolutely ridiculous tactic for a mafia player. But it seems to be the case that he was indeed using a ridiculous mafia tactic. Bizarre.

vote Hammerbro

[Happy Axeman]

yep, that is an excellent pickup SVH

hammer has either borrowed a few chars from other westerns for the game(but wouldnt he of done it from eastwoods sphagetti series?), or Hammersbro is a complet nugget and guessed a name badly...

There is no other choice really.
VOTE HAMMERSBRO

after reading this day's events so far, I'm also pretty convinced Amadjin is working with Hammersbro, due to the fact the way he has tried hard to make the shit stick Steve. I think its safe to say SteRyals is pretty high on my safe list now. Hammersbro today, then Amadjin tomorrow i reckon. 

[Happy Axeman]

by the way, has anyone looked up sherrif hackman?

ive looked, ive serched and i cant find any reference to a sherrif Hackman in the Good the bad and the ugly...

[stevenryals]

quick update.. 

hammerbro (stevenryals, wesmancity, trickpony, SVH, hippo, happyaxeman)
Stevenryals (hammerbro, amadjin)
Trick Pony (trickpony)
Yorkshireblue (Mikeblue)

[Happy Axeman]

18 player game...

Vigilante = Blondie(Eastwood), the Good - Investigate/Kill?
Serial Killer = Angel Eyes(Van Cleef), The bad - Kill?
Mafia (3/4 members?) = The ugly - 1 Kill? Bluestars
Evil Cult (2 members?) = MIASG - Recruit
Anti Cult? 1 member = StevenRyals? cult roleblocker
Roleblocker = TCH
doctor = ?
masons (2members)

would mean 11 or 12 peeps in an 18 player game with power roles leaving just 6
normal townies...
if i'm correct about the above roles available this would mean there could be 3 kills per night, so day 1 would mean blondie investigated someone? unless there is also a sherrif and blondie is just a role who can kill... but he wouldnt be called Sherif Hackman would he?

[Happy Axeman]

I started to read back from day one but have ran out of time, got chores and stuff to do shortly... and i'm doing what i hate reading myself, conexctutive posts from the same person, but oh well. lol
I'm pretty darn sure Currieman is MIASG's cult partner in crime. Ive said in a previous post in day one that i was thinking he was mafia, and backed it up with a vote, but i'm now sure he is Cult.. its just that frienldy banter shit you sometimes see early in the game when you know someone is on the same team, there early exchanges seem to stand out from the pages to me.

[i2i Killer 89]

Bizarro. I am just a normal townie I'm afraid Axeman, don't see why you're so adamant that I'm working with MiasG just because of those jokey posts at the start. I can't remember exactly how it came about (as it was deleted) but anybody could've said what MiasG said and I would've said the same thing, I was just trying to liven the game up at the start like I did when the game really started.

Anyway, what Steve picked up on is good stuff, if he's made up the name then we've got him and it was an absolutely crazy move. Steve's story is consistent, he's posted more and to me he does look less mafia like than Hammerbro but that is mainly because of Hammerbro's bizarre name claim. Before that I would've said that it was a better option to lynch Steve because then we only lose a cult doctor guy (and we can assume the cult is pretty useless now if it does still exist after it's leader's death) rather than lose a cop. And if Steve was telling the truth then we'd know that Hammerbro was either mafia or a paranoid cop. But yeah, evidence points directly towards Hammerbro so vote Hammerbro

[laserblue]

had a look on on internet can't find any reference to sherrif hackman in the film ... but I can't find any refrence to the character steve is claiming to be either

[stevenryals]

I think I know where hammer got my character, after looking at IMDB, i noticed some of the off the screen positions were filled by a fellow by the name of 'sergio leone'...  dont see any reference to a hackman anywhere..

[Quig]

Well i cant say where my brother got his characters from but i'm still a little confused on the lynching of a cop claim? The way i see it, if you lynch me and im a cop, you've lost a cop and know steven to be evil. He gets lynched tomorrow. If you lynch steven and he isnt mafia, i get lynched the next day and you lose a cult protecter in a game where the cult leader died first night. It just doesn't make sense to lynch me over my result.

[stevenryals]

hammerbro why dont you give more information about your role?  do what I did straightaway, and post the details of your role..

you've been reluctant to give your name, and you've still not given details as to your role..

the reason you've avoided doing this is because you're afraid the wording wont be what we have in our own role as town members..  go ahead hammerbro..  give your full role.. dont quote the pm, but give as much info as you can, refer to my claim post if you need more information because I've posted my full roll..  your turn..

[i2i Killer 89]

hammerbro why dont you give more information about your role?  do what I did straightaway, and post the details of your role..

you've been reluctant to give your name, and you've still not given details as to your role..

What? He did give us his name, albeit SVH has found to be a name not related to the film, and he's a cop, what more detail could you want? Basically a cop gets to investigate 1 person per night and will be told whether they are guilty or innocent depending on whether or not they are good or evil.

Feeling the pressure a bit are we Steve? Looks like you're trying to latch on to anything you can to prove Hammerbro wrong but not doing it very well

[Quig]

Yeah pretty much, I'm Sheriff Hackman. I can investigate 1 person a night to find out if there with me or against me. I win when the bad guys are out of the town. I am the town cop. More to the point I'm still under the pressure of alot of votes and am still confused on why the cop is being lynched as apposed to the person the cop has outed. Surely it would be completely idiotic for a mafia to come out in an attempt to kill someone when surely they could just nightkill them if they wanted them dead that badly.

[i2i Killer 89]

Was there a sheriff in the film? (I've never seen it) Because surely that is what the name of the cop would be in the game? Unless there are 2 cops and Hammer had to give 1 of them another name that he got from some other film. I'm can't stop swaying with my thoughts here. Hammerbro does look very plausible and it is probably the better idea to lynch Steve because then we only lose a useless town role if Steve is telling the truth whereas we could lose a cop if Hammerbro is telling the truth. On the other hand, Steve does have a pretty consistent thing with the things he said towards the start of the game but then again, he could've just made that up and stuck to it all the way through, gambling that there would be a cult.

At the moment I am more inclined towards lynching Steve purely because we lose a useless townie if he is telling the truth whereas we would lose a cop if Hammerbro is telling the truth. 1 of them is lying, we just need to work out which one and I honestly can't tell right now!

[stevenryals]

Feeling the pressure a bit are we Steve? Looks like you're trying to latch on to anything you can to prove Hammerbro wrong but not doing it very well

absolutely, i have the feeling that you guys are going to lynch me, then lose 2 or 3 townies over night then lynch hamerbro who will probably turn out to be a low level mafia or a paranoid cop..

[stevenryals]

At the moment I am more inclined towards lynching Steve purely because we lose a useless townie if he is telling the truth whereas we would lose a cop if Hammerbro is telling the truth. 1 of them is lying, we just need to work out which one and I honestly can't tell right now!

No, you wont lose a useless townie, you'll lose a useless townie and then activate the night phase, and then lose two more townies (probably not useless ones either).  We've already lost the roleblocker, so only the doctor can help stop the night kills, and he has to guess right or he's useless..

I was hoping that in hammerbro's description it would have some hint to him being a paranoid cop, but there is none that I can pick up..  I really think he's mafia, I dont think theres a chance of a paranoid cop..

and it DOES make sense for mafia to sacrifice himself..  he gets rid of me, then they have 2 or 3 kills in the nightphase..  what's bad about that? oh, hammerbro gets lynched tomorrow..  but then its night then and they get 2 or 3 more kills..  so lets say..  1 mafia down (hammerbro) and 4-6 town dead..  sounds like a good tactic for mafia to me..  cant believe everyone is saying what a stupid idea it would be for mafia to do that..

[Steve Van Halen]

had a look on on internet can't find any reference to sherrif hackman in the film ... but I can't find any refrence to the character steve is claiming to be either

Theres no sherriff hackman in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, Gene Hackman plays the sheriff in The Unforgiven which was made in the early 90s which also starred Clint Eastwood. I dont think that Der Hammer would create such a character when IMDB is so easy to look up

I have them all on dvd by the way

[Steve Van Halen]

Im sure theres not even a sheriff in the film

Sergio Leone is the name of the director.

Why would you role claim on the second day? Makes you a mafia target for the night phase but thats not a problem because you are lying

[*Afroboy*]

What about sheriff john bartha? I've looked on wikipedia and saw this guy

My dads got the clint eastwood films as well..... but they are on video and we don't have a video player anymore

[stevenryals]

What about sheriff john bartha? I've looked on wikipedia and saw this guy

his name is John bartha, but played sherrif Bartho (genuis!), or at least thats what I get from IMDB..