Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!

[hippo]

so, you just going to believe him? 

i'm reverend leone..  it's my mission to stop the yongsters from leaving the town to join the cult..  i can talk to one person per night and while i'm talking to them they cant be recruited.. 

that's why i said "i'm positive theres a cult" on the first day..

that's why i said "my role is fairly useless unless I guess right every night"

UNVOTE MIKE BLUE
VOTE HAMMERBRO

he's put himself in a bad situation..  you either lynch me or you lynch him..  he posted "im a cop", and you now have my full role.. 

Okay, this is your roleclaim in full. You quite clearly state that your role was that you talk to one person per night, which means they can't be recruited by the cult. By this, i assumed you got to talk to one person per night, and that would mean they couldn't be recruited by the cult. I've apparently got this wrong, and you don't talk to anyone at all?

You've repeatedly ignored things that people have said to you. Quite importantly today, you've ignored the fact that previous cults have had a deputy, on a number of occasions. Most recently stating that "the cult is already gone". I know i've mentioned it twice, and i think amadjin also did, so why aren't you acknowledging it?

Anyway, you don't currently have my vote, because i want to hear more from hammerbro. But being so inconsistent, and then just trying to divert attention away on to me because, as far as i can see, i'm the one who dared to question your claim, isn't exactly making me believe you.

I did state why i was leaning towards believing hammerbro's claim earlier in the day. But i'll do it again if you like. He's claiming to be a cop; you're claiming to be something, in your own words, "fairly useless". It seems pretty much like a straight choice between you and him (not just in my mind, in everyones, if you have a look at the votes since). If we believe you and you're lying, we've lost a cop. If we believe him and he's lying, we've lost nothing that powerful - although admittedly, you are a strong poster. The risk factor with believing him seems less to me. And that's it entirely. I don't believe in deliberately risking a cop, without any concrete evidence.

[stevenryals]

you seem to forget one thing altogether..  hammerbro is dead one way or another..  today is his last day to play, because...
1) I'm lynched today and I'm innocent, therefore he's lynched tomorrow
2) he's lynched today, and obviously he'd dead
3) I'm lynched today and I'm turn out to be lying, he's dead in the night phase.


now I'll place myself in the place of the cop:

firstly, I would attempt to convince people of someone guilt rather than giving my role straightaway.
secondly, in my role claim I would definitely make sure i requested the services of a protection role.
thirdly, If I was going to give my role away, I would surely be more specific and get back online to make sure things were going ok. 

he's done none of this..  if he is a paranoid cop and doesnt know it and he thinks his results are real..  then he's really shite at this game


as for the possibility of a deputy, i cant remember one...  if there is one, I still have about a 1 in 15 shot at choosing right.. and what does it matter if I dont respond to every single comment.. my god I have like a million posts in this games, ive tried to get involved and be responsive but even i cant respond to everything, especially after 30 pages of mostly nonsense..

finally..  i'm reverend leone..  good to meet you..  end of

[laserblue]

Also laser why do you keep mentioning me for being quiet.

Show me where I mentioned you for being quiet

[froganomis]

Three votes, quick succession...  within 30 minutes of each other.. now they've all logged off.. 

your last straws....clutching ...

you seem to forget one thing altogether..  hammerbro is dead one way or another..  today is his last day to play, because...
1) I'm lynched today and I'm innocent, therefore he's lynched tomorrow
2) he's lynched today, and obviously he'd dead
3) I'm lynched today and I'm turn out to be lying, he's dead in the night phase.


now I'll place myself in the place of the cop:

firstly, I would attempt to convince people of someone guilt rather than giving my role straightaway.
secondly, in my role claim I would definitely make sure i requested the services of a protection role.
thirdly, If I was going to give my role away, I would surely be more specific and get back online to make sure things were going ok. 

he's done none of this..  if he is a paranoid cop and doesnt know it and he thinks his results are real..  then he's really shite at this game


as for the possibility of a deputy, i cant remember one...  if there is one, I still have about a 1 in 15 shot at choosing right.. and what does it matter if I dont respond to every single comment.. my god I have like a million posts in this games, ive tried to get involved and be responsive but even i cant respond to everything, especially after 30 pages of mostly nonsense..

finally..  i'm reverend leone..  good to meet you..  end of

this stinks of evil and again avoiding questions.i have a few for you

1) whats your role called?
2)with regards to question 2 and your last post,you said you cant answer every post. there were 2 posts at least where you were asked about your views on the apparent demise of the cult.
3)are you the cult deputy trying to quash rumours of the cult still being around???

one final thought and question if you would acknowledge this. your most recent post,if you were a town,solely thinking about the town,your third alternative would certainly have not crept into your post,freudian slip perchance?

[Quig]

Sorry it took me a while to get back to respond since my claim. Well, on the last day Ryals just kept giving me that he's evil vibe. So i gave him an investigate and got that he is against me. Weather that means serial killer or mafia im not sure. But all I know is that i think he is against me. Now, the way i see it, either 1 of us is evil or im paranoid/crazy cop. I think the only real choices now are to lynch me or steve. The way i see it, no mafia would sacrifice himself just to take down an innocent without knowing there role. A cop could sacrifice himself for a mafia. If he is evil I'm sure i'll get protected, if he isn't i'll proberly die the next day no matter what i say. But with 2 evils dead already i think my sacrifice is worth getting rid of another. Less mafia working together means less co-ordinatied voting.

[yorkshire blue]

you still havent given a name hammerbro and you have been quiet this game which is a mafia tactic
why would steven be lying as he would only be gone in the night or tomorrow

[Quig]

I'm Sheriff Hackman. Why would i be lying as well Blue?

[Mikeblue]

Dunno what to make of all this seems very odd.

At the minute I am swaying with Hammerbro being a crazy cop and steve being who he says he is to be honest. Does not make sense Hammerbro to do what you did how you did it to me to be honest??? But if you were mafia then why??? And Steve has been concitant throughout on his story I feel.

[froganomis]

knowing how stupid these games can make people look we have a crazy cop forcing both himself and a roleblocker type role having to claim...

but if its down to believing one or the other il believe hammerbro over steve.

[stevenryals]

1) whats your role called?
2)with regards to question 2 and your last post,you said you cant answer every post. there were 2 posts at least where you were asked about your views on the apparent demise of the cult.
3)are you the cult deputy trying to quash rumours of the cult still being around???

I've answered all that amadjin, maybe you should read instead of back up hammerbro..

thing is, hammerbro is useless to the town as a rogue/paranoid cop.  would it not be better to dispense of a role that will continually confuse the town and force all of our power players to have to role claim with his false positives?

[hippo]

Does it not make more sense to lynch the person who has come back as evil? That way, we get the same answer, but we also keep the cop for future results that help us find the evil. We only risk losing a cult doctor.. a cult that could only possibly be able to recruit once every two nights now that the leader is dead. If at all. Which role would be more useful?

I think we're seeing who the mafia are here. Not necessarily stevenryals, his story might be true, or he might be cult - i don't think he's mafia. But the ones who've come out since hammerbro's claim and voted for him. It makes no sense that he would be making a mafia move. It makes a lot of sense that the people wanting to lynch someone claiming a cop would be the mafia though.

[hippo]

Does it not make more sense to lynch the person who has come back as evil? That way, we get the same answer, but we also keep the cop for future results that help us find the evil. We only risk losing a cult doctor.. a cult that could only possibly be able to recruit once every two nights now that the leader is dead. If at all. Which role would be more useful?

I think we're seeing who the mafia are here. Not necessarily stevenryals, his story might be true, or he might be cult - i don't think he's mafia. But the ones who've come out since hammerbro's claim and voted for him. It makes no sense that he would be making a mafia move. It makes a lot of sense that the people wanting to lynch someone claiming a cop would be the mafia though.

This should have the question "Why are people suggesting we lynch a cop, to see if he's paranoid?" at the start. The first paragraph was written as if i'd asked it anyway.

I'd like to hear what some more people think about this all though, rather than the same 5 or 6 going round in circles.

[froganomis]

Vote Hammerbro as that statement is madness and for me steve in an easy target for you guys. Really can not understand why you did that.

i can tell you don't take much notice. he says he is the cop so for you to doubt him and vote for him. that blatently puts you with the accused as very potentially evil

and also to lynch a cop would be really f**kin stupid unless your anti-town,it would be wiser to oust the accused before deciding to wether the cop should be lynched.

SEVERELY FOS: wesmancity and trick pony

[froganomis]

I've answered all that amadjin, maybe you should read instead of back up hammerbro..

thing is, hammerbro is useless to the town as a rogue/paranoid cop.  would it not be better to dispense of a role that will continually confuse the town and force all of our power players to have to role claim with his false positives?

you havent answered number one steve,you;ve only described what your role is about...

[Mikeblue]

It really doesn't strike me as a mafia move to come out and claim cop that they have investigated somenone and that he had investigated someone if he hadn't. Maybe he is paranoid or maybe they are both mafia and making a sacrifice of Steve so that Hammerbro would appear good for the rest of the game? Or am I paranoid??? lol.

[hippo]

It really doesn't strike me as a mafia move to come out and claim cop that they have investigated somenone and that he had investigated someone if he hadn't. Maybe he is paranoid or maybe they are both mafia and making a sacrifice of Steve so that Hammerbro would appear good for the rest of the game? Or am I paranoid??? lol.

I know where you're coming from, but i think they'd have done it the other way round if that was what was going on. It would have made more sense anyway.

[stevenryals]

It makes a lot of sense that the people wanting to lynch someone claiming a cop would be the mafia though.

I will promise to you hammerbro will be either 1) mafai  2) paranoid cop..

I've posted my role, the entire thing straight away..  hammerbro has done nawt, but all of you seem to be going with his story ..  he's mafia and you'll find out soon enough I guess..

[Steve Van Halen]

I'm Sheriff Hackman. Why would i be lying as well Blue?

Sheriff Hackman?! That would be from The Unforgiven and would have nothing to do with the Spaghetti Westerns.

I call you out sir Vote Hammerbro

[stevenryals]

you havent answered number one steve,you;ve only described what your role is about...

I wrote every single bit of my PM from hammer in my own words  I'm reverend Leone, it doesnt say anything after that excpet what I wrote before, if you'd like for me to repeat myself I can..  but that's my role in its entirety..


by the way, has anyone looked up sherrif hackman?

[stevenryals]

the sherrif in the good the bad the ugly was "John Bartha ...  Sheriff (as John Bartho) " per IMDB at least..