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Title: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 22, 2008, 05:49:47 AM
The Rules for Lord of the Rings Mafia

Please read the rules as in both the last 2 games people have been mod killed for posting direct messages from me. I don’t enjoy doing it but I will if you break the rules. The other newbie mistake is editing your posts, do not do it.

Some unique rules for this game, hopefully it all works out!!!

The game will last for a maximum of Seven Mafia Days. If the Town reach Day Seven with a live Hobbit and the Ring then they automatically win regardless of who else is alive. It is possible.

Only Hobbits and Gollum can carry the ring indefinitely without any ill effects.

You cannot claim to be the ring bearer in any post, if you do the lure of the ring causes everyone to attack you and lynch you. The game will then move into a night phase.

If all the Hobbits are killed the ring then falls into the hands of one of the fellowship they can only hold the ring for one Day phase before it consumes them and they die during the night phase. If the Fellowship runs out of players Gollum claims the ring, he can carry the ring indefinitely without any ill effects. If Gollum is then killed then the Mafia win. If Gollum is dead before the last of the Fellowship are consumed by the ring then the Mafia win.

If the Sauron, the Nazgul and Gollum are killed before Day 7 then the Town win.

Day 1 – Rivendell to the Gates of Moria
Day 2 – The Mines of Moria     
Day 3 – Lothlorien and the journey down the River Anduin   
Day 4 – Dead marshes to Mordor     
Day 5 – The Black Gate
Day 6 – Minas Morgul
Day 7 – Mt Doom

However the same usual Mafia rules apply

    * To attempt to get the game flowing there will be time limits for the day and night phases, where the day phase will occur during a 1 week maximum period.
    * Nights will last therefore between 24-48 hours. If night choices come in earlier, it will dawn earlier. If you don’t get your choices in on time then you miss out on them.
    * Lynching will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, his pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded. If the majority vote is reached before the 6 days then the day will still finish and the night phase begins.
    * The person with the most votes at the end of the day phase will be lynched, in the result of a tie then the toss of a coin will decide who gets lynched. If more than 2 people are tied then I will randomly draw the name from a hat.
    * Votes must be in bold. If you do not bold your vote, it will not be counted. Make sure you vote as so   vote TCH 
    * Please be attentive and unvote, before casting a new vote, you can only vote for one person at a time.
    * The game is not to be discussed outside of the thread unless your role specifically states that you may do so.
    * Once your death scene has been posted, you’re dead. Stop typing. The Graveyard awaits the dead player.
    * Don’t edit/delete previously submitted posts you are likely to be mod killed otherwise.
    * Don’t quote any messages from me. You will be mod-killed if you do.
    * If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. I will not wait for you – if you do not submit a choice then you miss out, which might result you being quite unhappy
    * If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread. Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.
    * I should post a vote count, ever so often, maybe every page or every alternate one. Please feel free to request one should you deem it necessary.
    * If you have any questions, you can pm me or ask in the thread. I'll get back to you as soon as possible, and with the best explanation that I can. 
    * I am always right, but not always accurate. If I've made a mistake, please tell my by email as soon as possible. If you try to notify me in thread, I'll have to to edit your post and you will most likely be mod-killed.
    * If I'm going to be unavailable for more than a day, I'll post that information
    * Most importantly...this is a game and we're here to have fun. Do your part.
    * lastly.........Good Luck
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings Game Starts Monday
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 25, 2008, 09:05:44 AM
we have a late entry to the game, making 17 players playing, so to keep the game fair for all players i have modifed the following rule slightly.


At the start of Day 7 if the town have players alive they will have the ring and would currently win the game. The modification i have made is that if Gollum is alive on Day 7, he then selects one of the players left and kills them. If they are the current ringbearer then Gollum wins, if he guesses wrong then the town win.
The Mafia must prevent the game reaching day 7 as they cannot win otherwise.

This way all players have the opportunity to win.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings Game Starts Monday
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 25, 2008, 09:08:11 AM
The playerlist for this game is

AfroBoy
Bluestars
FootballNewb
Hammerbro
Happy Axeman
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Miasg
MikeBlue
Mophead
Sir Hammer
Stevenryals
SVH
Trick Pony
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 26, 2008, 02:46:43 AM
Bilbo, Elrond and the elves of Rivendell gather to watch the fellowship head off with the one ring. A perilous journey awaits and they know that some if not all of the fellowship might die in attempting to get the ring to Mt Doom to destroy it. The Nazgul are out searching plus  the one eye, Sauron wants his ring back and will stop at nothing to get it.

So Day 1 starts with the journey from Rivendell to the Gates of Moria.

With 17 players Nine votes will cause a lynch.

The time frame for Day 1 is as follows, once every player has posted once in the thread you will have 72 hours till you reach the Gates of Moria and the day ends. At that point the person with the most votes will be lynched or in the case of a tie i will randomly select a person to be lynched.

The game has begun, good luck to you all
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 26, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
"Were off to see the wizard" .. no wait wrong movie ..

17 players 7 days max .. this needs to be thought out well from the get go and no rush votes like the end of the last game  :laugh:

gotta wonder what hammerbro is seeing how the posts were sent out before he joined .. for me very doubtfull he's any of the main characters so he's most likely to be normal townie or added to mafia .. I'd say 80% townie -20% mafia.  Obviously Bilbo and Elrond aren't in this game either since they watch everyone leave .. so make sure if you list the possible characters to take them out (I think  ???)

not even going to start FOSing or Voting this early .. yeah not even you :clown: - yet.  Must be time for a turn around though.

C'mon on all get on and start posting .. gimme some of your thoughts on what might happen in this version of the game
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 26, 2008, 10:31:10 AM
Should be interesting this, seems a decent concept. I confused myself with all the ring stuff when i was first reading the rules, but it's essentially just a normal game with a little twist isn't it. Hopefully people are pretty active, to help with the 72 hours thing.

I suspect MIASG of being Gollum myself. Or if Gollum isn't acting as a serial killer role, then i suspect him of being a serial killer - but i'd guess Gollum is a serial killer, sneak attacking in the night with rocks and all that. Just because a day or so after the roles were sent out, he started saying how serial killers should get extra points for winning in the Hall of Fame thread. Just a hunch really.

FOS: MIASG

As for the speculation about hammerbro, we should keep an open mind. He's not going to be one of the very, very key characters, but he could have been added to either of the sides (i know there are technically 3 sides, but i think we can rule him out as far as being Gollum goes) and he could still be powerful either way. So let's not just assume he's an ordinary townie because he was added late - it could  prove costly later on, if we did.



Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on May 26, 2008, 10:39:24 AM
Something tells me this is going to be a very fast paced game...
And hopefully we (the aussies) don't wake up to 10 pages of stuff to read through again :P

MIASG is always suss no matter what... but I doubt he is lucky enough to get the role of Serial Killer again...
I actually think he may be good this time round...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 26, 2008, 10:57:48 AM
Something tells me this is going to be a very fast paced game...
And hopefully we (the aussies) don't wake up to 10 pages of stuff to read through again :P

MIASG is always suss no matter what... but I doubt he is lucky enough to get the role of Serial Killer again...
I actually think he may be good this time round...

he was mafia last time so he could get to be a serial killer or even a mafia again why not?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 26, 2008, 11:01:59 AM
yeah hippo I was serial killer 2 games back in the tripping the rift game .. thought it was impossible to win as serial killer so they deserved more than 1 point .. but that's not this game.  No idea if there is a serial killer in LOTR .. maybe the only one is gollum.  I am not gollum I can give you that for free.  Thanks footynewb 1 game in and you've labelled me as always suss  :clap: ...  Good news is I'm back to the good guys side.   I still don't think I'll be playing much differently though.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 26, 2008, 11:06:29 AM
he was mafia last time so he could get to be a serial killer or even a mafia again why not?
I've got better odds in winning the lotto than getting  >:D 2 in a row .. sort of laughed when I saw my normal but boring role .. I liked playing the bad side.  Pretty much resigned myself to not being around for the 7 days ..

and while I think of it my mrs is due to give birth Thursday arvo  :thumbup: :cheers:.. I've been saving the gold coins for the internet cafe so I won't miss much.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on May 26, 2008, 11:27:20 AM

to Wesmancity: I think TCH would have done the things at random so MIASG's role in the last games wont matter.


this game seems interesting. im gonna FOS:MIASG as well just because that last post seemed dodge to me.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 26, 2008, 12:15:32 PM
Im thinking we should start by trying to list all the possible roles that TCH would have put in the game from the movie so any suggestions ? Im going to have a look around to get up to date with the roles from the movies. Though i will start the list with the some I found from the following site which may help
http://www.lordoftherings.net/legend/characters/  (http://www.lordoftherings.net/legend/characters/)

Townies
Aragorn
Arwen
Bilbo
Boromir
Denethor
Elrond
Eomer
Eowyn
Faramir
Frodo
Galadriel
Gandalf
Gimli
Legolas
Merry
Pippin
Sam
King
Theoden
Treebeard
 
 
Mafia roles
Gollum
Saruman
Sauron
Shelob
Witch King
Wormtongue


 
 
 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Quig on May 26, 2008, 12:52:55 PM
As always the first day is filled with no one having any idea on what to do. Now, due to the different aspects of this game we should approach it differently than usual. Firstly, theres a time limit on this game. 7 days and we win. As long as the hobbits/fellowship are still alive. I can assume there are more townies than baddies so a lynch at this stage, unless someone slips up, would have a much higher chance of getting one of us. Therefore, I suggest a no lynch until we have someone reveal something incriminating. One thing i think we may need to catch however is golum. I'm assuming that as the way for him to win requires all the of the townies to die therefore giving him the ring that he can steal it at night possibly. So I think our main goal should be keeping Frodo (most likely ring bearer) alive and getting golum out. As long as Frodo is hidden he's relatively safe. Therefore, for now, Vote: No lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 26, 2008, 01:07:21 PM
to Wesmancity: I think TCH would have done the things at random so MIASG's role in the last games wont matter.


this game seems interesting. im gonna FOS:MIASG as well just because that last post seemed dodge to me.

correct all roles were randomly drawn
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 26, 2008, 01:57:12 PM
As always the first day is filled with no one having any idea on what to do. Now, due to the different aspects of this game we should approach it differently than usual. Firstly, theres a time limit on this game. 7 days and we win. As long as the hobbits/fellowship are still alive. I can assume there are more townies than baddies so a lynch at this stage, unless someone slips up, would have a much higher chance of getting one of us. Therefore, I suggest a no lynch until we have someone reveal something incriminating. One thing i think we may need to catch however is golum. I'm assuming that as the way for him to win requires all the of the townies to die therefore giving him the ring that he can steal it at night possibly. So I think our main goal should be keeping Frodo (most likely ring bearer) alive and getting golum out. As long as Frodo is hidden he's relatively safe. Therefore, for now, Vote: No lynch

This is an interesting Idea ... I never know who to vote for on day 1 & we nearly always lose a good guy  :hmmm:

I just thought though if no-one votes & fos anyone then we would start day two out no wiser than day one... except with probably less good players... unless the cop/investigater gets lucky ???

I hope peeps are going to get more involved this time.


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 26, 2008, 02:24:36 PM
I'd say that if there are no votes at the end of day 1 then TCH would randomly draw someone to die .. TCH can you confirm or deny that ?

bloody hell TP that's 26 characters (or was king theodin 1 charcter?) .. I reckon possibly then 13 goodies and 4 baddies (gollum and 3 mafia) ..
Townies
Aragorn
Arwen
Boromir
Faramir
Frodo
Gandalf
Gimli
Legolas
Merry
Pippin
Sam
Treebeard
Eowyn or Galadriel

Denethor
Eomer
King
Theoden


waved goodbye
Bilbo
Elrond
 
 
Mafia roles
Gollum
Saruman
Sauron
Shelob
Witch King
Wormtongue


not wanting to quote the mod :) something major to remember

DON'T CLAIM TO BE THE RING BEARER - you'll be lynched on the spot

things I'm not too sure of: -
how does the ring move onto someone else if they have it and die?  do they choose a person or character? or is it done for you?

If all the Fellowship die and Gollum claims the ring, but makes it at the end is that a townie victory?

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 26, 2008, 04:34:56 PM
TCH in your summaries at the start of each day could you add the members that are still alive please? In some previous games a few players have slipped out of sight due to this as I havent been sure who is playing.

I think Hammerbro is on to a good tactic, lets not lynch anyone unless we are certain. The more townies stay alive the greater the chance of winning.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on May 26, 2008, 05:37:06 PM
I'd say that if there are no votes at the end of day 1 then TCH would randomly draw someone to die .. TCH can you confirm or deny that ?

Dont think this is fair at all if he does this. I would rather vote someone than let that happen since a random lynch by TCH would tell us nothing. Its in the Main Mafia Rules thread that you can Vote for a no lynch so unless he wants to change that then I assume you can still do it.

I think Hammerbros idea sounds alright, but obviously we dont know how many bad guys there are out there or what their powers are. I do know we need to keep the hobbits alive as long as possible so maybe a no lynch wouldn't be the worst idea in the world.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on May 26, 2008, 05:58:19 PM
whats the point in a no lynch were just wont get anywhere
apart from lose townies through the night
but the first lynch is lucky and usually ends up good
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Quig on May 26, 2008, 06:03:35 PM
Normally a no lynch is a mafia stall tactic for them to get the first kill. But, in this game where there is a 7 day time limit its actually working the other way. Its in the best interest of the townies to stall out for the full 7 days. As long as the ring is still in good hands. Which at the moment, i assume it is. Therefore the less people who die, unless we stick gold, the better.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 26, 2008, 06:59:32 PM
Normally a no lynch is a mafia stall tactic for them to get the first kill. But, in this game where there is a 7 day time limit its actually working the other way. Its in the best interest of the townies to stall out for the full 7 days. As long as the ring is still in good hands. Which at the moment, i assume it is. Therefore the less people who die, unless we stick gold, the better.

I agree Vote: No LYNCH
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 26, 2008, 07:21:23 PM
can tommy please clarify whether we can vote no lynch in this game .. it's his game so he makes the rules I guess.

I think it's a good idea but if everyone just comes on & votes no lynch then we face day two in exactly the same position none the wiser but possibly two down ... I don't see how this helps the town.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 26, 2008, 07:24:28 PM
FOS at yorkshire for either not reading the game rules or encouraging the potential lynch of a townie!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on May 26, 2008, 07:39:46 PM
whats all this crap about 'no lynch'?
in my eyes people voting for no lynch would appear to be mafia... (oh dear Wes, youve not made another mistake have you? lol )

there is no solid reason or foundation for townies to use No lynch, as this then takes away the main source of information we have over the coarse of the oncoming days... who voted for who, who bandwaggoned, who withdrew and changed at last minute, these are all important facts we will loose if there is a no lynch and the mafia will be rubbing there hands rather giddilly in anticipation of deffinatly surving the day lynch, and then killing one of us in the night...

so on that note, I see there is 2 people already voting No lynch. WTF? ???

FOS Hammersbro for being the first... and then because i know Wes is prone to mistakes from his first game, I'm going to VOTE Wesmancity for bandwaggoning the No lynch and already looking for the easy way out of Day one.  ;) lol
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 26, 2008, 07:47:37 PM
whats all this crap about 'no lynch'?
in my eyes people voting for no lynch would appear to be mafia... (oh dear Wes, youve not made another mistake have you? lol )

there is no solid reason or foundation for townies to use No lynch, as this then takes away the main source of information we have over the coarse of the oncoming days... who voted for who, who bandwaggoned, who withdrew and changed at last minute, these are all important facts we will loose if there is a no lynch and the mafia will be rubbing there hands rather giddilly in anticipation of deffinatly surving the day lynch, and then killing one of us in the night...

so on that note, I see there is 2 people already voting No lynch. WTF? ???

FOS Hammersbro for being the first... and then because i know Wes is prone to mistakes from his first game, I'm going to VOTE Wesmancity for bandwaggoning the No lynch and already looking for the easy way out of Day one.  ;) lol

lol, lol and more lol's axeman, you couldnt be more further from the truth. I deffinately know my role and assure you im not evil. If you do vote for me then you will be seen to instigate on getting rid of the good guys. I do see Hammersbro logic here as if what happens in the last game a townie went, yes?. And we need to keep everyone in too win this game.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 26, 2008, 07:54:33 PM

there is no solid reason or foundation for townies to use No lynch, as this then takes away the main source of information we have over the coarse of the oncoming days...

I have taken note of this axeman and did realise that, that could be the case. but im sticking with Hammerbro as i thing hes onto something.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on May 26, 2008, 07:58:26 PM
the only reason we lynched a townie on day1 last game, is because no-one was studying the voting patterns properly... more people in this game, means more votes required to get a lynch. which also means there should be votes flying everywhere amongst each other to check for slip ups, theres plenty of peeps who havent posted yet, but my vote is staying on you for now.  :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 26, 2008, 08:00:03 PM
the only reason we lynched a townie on day1 last game, is because no-one was studying the voting patterns properly... more people in this game, means more votes required to get a lynch. which also means there should be votes flying everywhere amongst each other to check for slip ups, theres plenty of peeps who havent posted yet, but my vote is staying on you for now.  :)

no worries matey  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Quig on May 26, 2008, 08:16:43 PM
Normally I would agree with you Axe, in a normal game of mafia no lynch plays right into the mafias hands as it eliminates the possibility of catching a mafia. BUT, in this game with a time limit then that switchs around in that we win if it reaches day 7 and certain people are still alive. Therefore we want to eliminate the chance of us lynching Frodo or something. For now, the best way to do this is to not kill a random person. Of course if someone begins to act strange and is susprisiusly mafia like then take them down. But Lets see, we have 4 hobbits, aragorn and legolas who can hold the ring. May be another couple of people. That means we need ONE of them alive till the end. Mafia proberly have 1 kill a night then 1/2 one use kills. Also proberly have a vig and serial killer. Now the serial killer imo is gollum and instead of killing someone, steals the ring if they have it. Therefore isn't much of a problem unless he gets it. Taking the vig+mafia+lynching we have 3 people dying each day. We won't last the 7 days with that. Unless we no lynch or get really lucky with hanging mafioso. All in all, i still believe no lynch to be the best option due to the 7 day we win limit on the game. Infact, mafia would be wanted to get a lynch as theres another chance for the ringbearer to go down.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 26, 2008, 08:40:04 PM
Mafia proberly have 1 kill a night then 1/2 one use kills.

Can you explain please....

I see your point & agree to a certain extent because it's usually someone innocent that dies on day one but I don't want to get to day two & be in the same situation as day one because hardly anything has been posted because people just no vote ....only by then we will be at least one man down.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 26, 2008, 08:47:49 PM
It's decent logic. If we're trying to keep good people alive primarily, then a random lynch on day one makes no sense, it's just an avoidable risk.. assuming there's enough people in the fellowship to last the 7 days (if, worst case scenario, one per night died). Depends how many the mafia/gollum kill each night too, or if Gollum obtains the ring, like was suggested earlier. If that happened, not using the day phase at all would mean we had very slim chances of winning. It's all ifs though, and i agree that a random lynch, particularly on the first day in this particular game, would be unwise.

So, i'm going to also vote: no lynch

assuming we're allowed obviously.

And i do know where everyone else is coming from as well, as usually i'd be all for getting the information. But it's a different mindset when all we really have to do is get one of 4 people (i presume we have 4 hobbits) to survive 7 days. There's just as much chance of killing one of those as killing mafia, which would be more harmful than the small amount of information we gained would be beneficial, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Quig on May 26, 2008, 08:50:52 PM
What i meant by that is that mafia will get 1 kill a night. And they might have another kill thats just a one use per game thing. If we can no lynch and we're in this same situation tomorrow except 1 townie down, we are also 1 day closer to the end. It all depends on just how many kills happen. We either need to get all the mafia down or need to last 7 days. If someone acts strangely evil or such, then killing them is still in our best interest, but at the moment when its hard to tell who is actually a mafia then a no lynch works as we get to see who the mafia decided to kill therefore see who was aiming for them as such. On the other hand, Axeman either doesn't read or is evil. Since i explained fully the reason for a no lynch before
there is no solid reason or foundation for townies to use No lynch
Not really enough for a vote but maybe a retaliation FOS: Happy Axeman

--Hippo posted while i was so this was wrote after that--
Theres more chance one of us will die than one of the mafia dying since theres more townies than mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 26, 2008, 08:53:44 PM
with the limit on this game I would be inclined to think that the no lynch vote would be avoided by the mafia. They need to get rid of townies in the day as well as in the night to increase their chances of winning.

But I do agree with the Axeman that voting patterns do help pinpoint evil
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 26, 2008, 08:55:47 PM
--Hippo posted while i was so this was wrote after that--
Theres more chance one of us will die than one of the mafia dying since theres more townies than mafia.

I meant hobbits, rather than just townies in general.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on May 26, 2008, 09:48:33 PM
so what people are saying by VOTE NO LYNCH, is sod the game, whats the point in playing, just everyone during the day vote no lynch till the end, dont bother posting, cause whats the point? 'theres going to be no lynch as we have to survive till the end'... FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE, have we already found the mafia in the game abstainers?  ???

as far as we are all aware, the only way we can kill the mafia is by lynching during the day. if we no lynch, then we forgoe our right to a chance of getting the mafia and any other evil.

If there is a serial killer and mafia then we are looking at 2 deaths per night, if the townies do have a vigilante and he decides to just kill instead of investigate, then we are looking at 3 deaths not 1 as has been mentioned... 7 nights, 13 townies, 3 deaths per night... you do the maths...

also dont be suprised if TCH has stuck in a twist or 2, I was serial killer last game and i was killed by a mafia mimic role! which meant the mafia actually had two kills that night...

Now get playing the game properly please and apply pressure on people by voting otherwise theres no point in playing.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on May 26, 2008, 09:56:30 PM
in fact thinking about it, I doubt there is 13 townies... more like 12 or even 11.
i reckon there could possibly be 4 or 5 mafia, and 1 serial killer(tch has used them every game).

if we just did a random vote we would probably have a 35% chance of hitting an evil char, if my life was on the line, I would take them odds.  :)
 if we manage to weed out some decent information by throwing votes around and pressuring people then them odds will increase considerably.  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 26, 2008, 10:01:37 PM
im sure the serial killer would be Gollum and the mafia would be seperate to that. That would mean they could kill two a night each By simple maths they could kill off 14 players out of 17 in 7 days if we dont get them first.

Axeman I agree with you and I implore the rest of you to see sense. Otherwise the tactic will be sit back and hope the doctor protects the right player every night. We cant count on that.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 26, 2008, 10:48:42 PM
So we await the following Afro, bluestars, Liverbird, mikeblue, Mophead and Stevenrynals to make their mark on the game. Out of those players ONLY Afroboy has been online today and not botherd to comment on things, are you waiting for a chance to come in to the game or are you keeping off the radar for the time being so you dont get noticed ???.  Its been a slow day today guys come on lets get the game going.  :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 27, 2008, 12:40:29 AM
Vote count so far

Wesmancity  1 Vote

As Wes posted above we still have 6 people who have not yet posted so the time limit for Day 1 has not started yet.

I can't make you vote but at the end of the day the person with the most votes will be lynched. If there are no votes then i can't lynch anyone. Though currently we do have a vote cast.
However this is just like any other mafia game and if you eliminate all the evil roles by Day 4 or 5 then the Town win anyway, Day 7 is just there as a goal for the town if they don't manage to eliminate the evil roles by then.
As someone mentioned earlier, this is just a normal mafia game with a couple of unique rules to suit the Lord of the Rings Theme and so far the last two games have only managed 5 days with a town and mafia win respectively.
Personally i would have thought a no vote would help the mafia as if no one is lynched then you start Day 2 not knowing anymore than you did on Day 1 with the disadvantage of most likely having lost a Town Role. But you guys are playing and if you choose to no vote that's fine. The end result will determine who is right or wrong.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 27, 2008, 03:49:43 AM
well there is certainly some food for thought .. to lynch or not lynch .. looks to me we have more than a week to sort his out now .. If I'm going to vote no lynch I'd rather wait until the final day if I don't see anyone looking 100% suss ..  I'm not sure about a mimic role in this one - it was more to do with the mystique character than anything ..  I doubt gollum is a true serial killer as such, probably more likely to be on the lines of he can try to kill frodo but can't if sam is alive - something along those lines.  From what I've seen of TCH's games he tries to link the characters as true as possible ..

No lynch gets us closer to day 7 .. not many mafia games have lasted that long anyway .. if there are 11,12,13, or 14 townies then they'd all be able to carry the ring - the issues is some can only for 1 day.  the obvious bet is Frodo has it now ... I think every day we should remind the ring bearer not to post they have it .. that would mean they are townie and lynched are we are 2 steps behind since it would force a night stage.  also if someone said they have it and they don't die they are gollum or mafia ..

I still think we will get the guys/girls who will sit back and say nothing on day 1 thus staying under the radar - last time one was a serious evil dude and the other townie.   
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 03:58:35 AM
Townies
Aragorn
Arwen
Boromir
Faramir
Frodo
Gandalf
Gimli
Legolas
Merry
Pippin
Sam
Treebeard
Eowyn or Galadriel

Denethor
Eomer
King
Theoden

waved goodbye
Bilbo
E€lrond
 
 
Mafia roles
Gollum
Saruman
Sauron
Shelob
Witch King
Wormtongue

You people must not watch these movies enough.....what about NAZGULS!!!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 04:00:03 AM
And who the heck is Wormtounge MIASG?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 27, 2008, 04:03:18 AM
And who the heck is Wormtounge MIASG?
  thought he was from harry potter - I got no idea it's from the list Trick Pony sent out first .. you really don't read all the posts do you  :D
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 27, 2008, 06:16:31 AM
  thought he was from harry potter - I got no idea it's from the list Trick Pony sent out first .. you really don't read all the posts do you  :D

I just quoted a list I found from the LOTR website to try get things moving. Anyway not much happening, it looks like we need to decide what we are going to do for the first day, I say we FOS and vote people as normal otherwise not voting will cost one of us in the night phase ... anyway thats my 2 cents worth on the voting / non voting so where are the others ? hiding to survive the first day I presume  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 27, 2008, 06:57:57 AM
5 people have not yet posted

Afroboy, Bluestars, Liverbird, MikeBlue and Stevenryals


only one vote have been cast for Wesmancity
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 27, 2008, 07:56:06 AM
Wormtongue is the guy who was helping to poison the kings mind in The Two Towers.

I think we have put a good case forward for lynching someone on day one, unless the doctor guesses correctly who to protect each night a  no vote will hand the victory over to the mafia. So who do we put pressure on?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 27, 2008, 08:29:40 AM
everyone on day 1
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Quig on May 27, 2008, 10:41:36 AM
Well, since no lynch is no longer an option i guess its time to look at whose evil. Firstly mophead hasn't really said anything but has posted to not look inactive. I don't really have any solid susprisions as of yet but we need to get the lurkers posting so i'm gonna vote: Afroboy until he posts anything at least.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 27, 2008, 11:01:11 AM
More than 24 hours since the game started and still no post from stevenryals? This has to be a record surely?

Wormtongue is the guy who was helping to poison the kings mind in The Two Towers.

I think we have put a good case forward for lynching someone on day one, unless the doctor guesses correctly who to protect each night a  no vote will hand the victory over to the mafia. So who do we put pressure on?

This is suspicious, not wanting to make the first move is a mafia tactic, wanting innocents to do his dirty work for him, so he can use it against them later. His other posts involve just agreeing with something Axeman had said, at first hesitantly, before he strengthened it up a bit when he was sure that would be the correct thing to do. All of his posts seem very contrived thus far. So, i'm going to vote: Steve Van Halen

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 12:21:54 PM
Vote count so far

Wesmancity  1 Vote

As Wes posted above we still have 6 people who have not yet posted so the time limit for Day 1 has not started yet.

I can't make you vote but at the end of the day the person with the most votes will be lynched. If there are no votes then i can't lynch anyone. Though currently we do have a vote cast.
However this is just like any other mafia game and if you eliminate all the evil roles by Day 4 or 5 then the Town win anyway, Day 7 is just there as a goal for the town if they don't manage to eliminate the evil roles by then.
As someone mentioned earlier, this is just a normal mafia game with a couple of unique rules to suit the Lord of the Rings Theme and so far the last two games have only managed 5 days with a town and mafia win respectively.
Personally i would have thought a no vote would help the mafia as if no one is lynched then you start Day 2 not knowing anymore than you did on Day 1 with the disadvantage of most likely having lost a Town Role. But you guys are playing and if you choose to no vote that's fine. The end result will determine who is right or wrong.

Just reading through and will post my thoughts in a minute but TCH if nobody votes anybody is it not a random draw for the day lynch or is it a majority vote of no lynch so nobody is lynched at all during the day???
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 27, 2008, 12:32:24 PM
Mike i am only concerned with votes for people, if nobody votes for a person or goes no lynch then nobody will be lynched. But if someone votes for a person then i lynch the person with the most votes even if they have the only vote cast.

We have 3 votes now anyway

AfroBoy            1 vote
SVH                 1 vote
Wesmancity       1 vote


Yet to post AfroBoy, Bluestars, Liverbird and Stevenryals
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 12:33:39 PM
Right yesterday was a bank holiday so I assume thats why there are still a few to post including moi!!! But now I'm here to give my two bob's worth!

What the hell is all this no lynch Jargon getting banded around for??? Its the dumbest idea I have ever heard of in my freaking life!!! We have a pot luck chance of hitting a bad guy and if not this is the first and only real hard evidence in helping us root out the evil the next day and in the future. I agree it is very difficult to lynch a baddy first day but the information gained from the first days lynch is invaluable!!! If we no lynch then 2moro we are in the same boat no closer to knowing anything about anybody and at least one good guy down with no information about anyone!!! Then some dufous would say to no lynch again and it would be the worst most boring game ever!!! Why play to no lynch, and not try to root out the evil?!?!? Defies the object of the game!!!

Right. Now I have got that of my chest I FOS everyone that thought it was a good idea to no lynch as this would only be mafia I feel putting this idea forward as they know that they get a free kill and leave no trace of their evil doings!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 12:43:02 PM
FOS Hammerbro, SVH, Wesmancity, Hippo

Continuing from my previous post!!!

Right lets cut all this crap and get everyone out of the woodwork and start finding some evil!!!

Right now all we have to go on is these four for suggesting such an obsurd idea and SVH for agreeing with everything and anyone on anything said.....which is mafia trait. You should be questioning everyone and anything to try and find evil not trying to cruise along trying to befriend people and look like mr nice guy sitting on the fence!!! Everyone is evil to me right now and I trust nobody and how you can addopt this stance so early really has my mind ticking over. Surely you would only do this to stay under the radar and hide your evil intentions!!!

And FOS MIASG this man cannot be trusted under any circumstances and was born evil!!! He is Freddy Cruagar and you just can't change evil!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 01:30:04 PM
Ok.. sorry I'm here...  had a long weekend  :)  sun, beer, pool, dead cow flesh on the grill.. !!! 


alright...  so far.. after reading through just a bit..  i say:

hammerbro : evil  : votes for no lynch on the first page, the only team that benefits from the night phase is the mafia..

mophead:  evil :  Easier to read than a comic book made for retards.. (no offense if any of you are retarded)(shame on me)

Miasg: evil : talking a bunch of bollox mostly, but he said his tactic will change this game to stay quieter so people wont think he's evil.  I believe his evil role has him wanting to post more so he seems like he's trying to find evil, even though all he's done thus far is talk of characters in the movies, and basicall talk bollocks in general...

so.. which one first??
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 01:56:16 PM
Ok.. sorry I'm here...  had a long weekend  :)  sun, beer, pool, dead cow flesh on the grill.. !!! 


alright...  so far.. after reading through just a bit..  i say:

hammerbro : evil  : votes for no lynch on the first page, the only team that benefits from the night phase is the mafia..

mophead:  evil :  Easier to read than a comic book made for retards.. (no offense if any of you are retarded)(shame on me)

Miasg: evil : talking a bunch of bollox mostly, but he said his tactic will change this game to stay quieter so people wont think he's evil.  I believe his evil role has him wanting to post more so he seems like he's trying to find evil, even though all he's done thus far is talk of characters in the movies, and basicall talk bollocks in general...

so.. which one first??

Steven Ryals evil as he always is the first to post and posts more than anyone.

Last time he was evil and he openly admitted that he is crap at being evil as he posts too much so this looks like a change of tactic for me less posting, late arrival, and a very short un-specific post for Steve!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 27, 2008, 02:05:15 PM
I think people are using this no lynching suggestion a bit too much the other way now. Yes, the other games only lasted about 5 days or whatever, but if you take out the 5 kills from the day phases (or more, if we take in to account random suicides), then they would have easily lasted the 7. And if we keep 1 of 4 people alive that long, we'll definitely win. So it's not entirely a poor suggestion is it?

In a normal game, i'd agree with what people are saying about it only benefiting the mafia, but in this game, where they're trying to kill specific people themselves (rather than just the entire town), it's not overly ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with everyone brainstorming to try and take the best course of action to benefit the town surely? As long as nobody actually trusts anyone. It's not an option now though obviously.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 02:07:05 PM
I think people are using this no lynching suggestion a bit too much the other way now. Yes, the other games only lasted about 5 days or whatever, but if you take out the 5 kills from the day phases (or more, if we take in to account random suicides), then they would have easily lasted the 7. And if we keep 1 of 4 people alive that long, we'll definitely win. So it's not entirely a poor suggestion is it?

In a normal game, i'd agree with what people are saying about it only benefiting the mafia, but in this game, where they're trying to kill specific people themselves (rather than just the entire town), it's not overly ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with everyone brainstorming to try and take the best course of action to benefit the town surely? As long as nobody actually trusts anyone. It's not an option now though obviously.

Evil words from an evil man!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 27, 2008, 02:11:52 PM
Steven Ryals evil as he always is the first to post and posts more than anyone.

Last time he was evil and he openly admitted that he is crap at being evil as he posts too much so this looks like a change of tactic for me less posting, late arrival, and a very short un-specific post for Steve!!!

but to be fair to steve he hasnt been online for a few days as i have checked on the members page and there was only afroboy who has been online and never posted, which really he needs a FOS for afroboy as when i asked hes not yet replyed as of yet to why hes not been involved.  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
We're in a new game, with new rules, and most likely new roles..  there was a new power last game, and I'm sure there will probably be some twist this game..

you, hippo, and hammersbro both seem too sure of yourself when it comes to how this game is going to pan out..  

the most interesting part of a 'no lynch' vote to me is the fact that there's an assumption that you know how the mafia will handle thier roles..  which leads me to think that you have one of those roles..  otherwise you'd be like me, and be very careful as it's a high probability that there's a twist, and that twist will happen in the night phase, and not the day phase..

not only that, you do a no lynch, and we start day 2 with no information just like day one..  the cop may get lucky on one, but then after that, still, we're clutching at straws again...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 27, 2008, 02:48:37 PM
Look I've pointed out the reasons for lynching people as a no lynch would clearly benefit the mafia. At first I thought a no lynch would be beneficial to the town but then I had a chance to think about it properly. Happyaxeman made some good points and I broke it down mathematically to conclude that he was right. Surely if I was mafia I would encourage the no lynch as it would mean that I would have a greater chance of being on the winning side?!

I think Axeman is wrong here, we are already seeing patterns with those voting for no lynch and those for lynching.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on May 27, 2008, 02:54:25 PM
Look I've pointed out the reasons for lynching people as a no lynch would clearly benefit the mafia. At first I thought a no lynch would be beneficial to the town but then I had a chance to think about it properly. Happyaxeman made some good points and I broke it down mathematically to conclude that he was right. Surely if I was mafia I would encourage the no lynch as it would mean that I would have a greater chance of being on the winning side?!

I think Axeman is wrong here, we are already seeing patterns with those voting for no lynch and those for lynching:


Steve van halen , are you sure that your not just saying all this so we dont think your not Mafia?? Hmmm im suspicious of you?

Sorry ive not been posting much as it was bank holiday yesterday and ive been busy at work today.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 03:05:45 PM
Look I've pointed out the reasons for lynching people as a no lynch would clearly benefit the mafia. At first I thought a no lynch would be beneficial to the town but then I had a chance to think about it properly. Happyaxeman made some good points and I broke it down mathematically to conclude that he was right. Surely if I was mafia I would encourage the no lynch as it would mean that I would have a greater chance of being on the winning side?!

I think Axeman is wrong here, we are already seeing patterns with those voting for no lynch and those for lynching:


Steve van halen , are you sure that your not just saying all this so we dont think your not Mafia?? Hmmm im suspicious of you?

Sorry ive not been posting much as it was bank holiday yesterday and ive been busy at work today.

When you quote someone press the quote button on the top right of their post so it goes into quote text in a different colour and we can all see who you are quoting instead of copy and paste Liverbird.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Quig on May 27, 2008, 03:05:55 PM
Again a no lynch is only worth anything in a timed game. But since we are unable to do that then we have to look at the other choices. At the moment, Mikeblue seems desperate to use the no lynch idea against me despite my reasons for it which, even though we cant do a no lynch anymore, are still valid and imo justify the no lynch option. But again, he might not of actually read posts so might not of grasped my plan.

--Liverbird posted while i was--

Of course he's saying that so we dont think he's mafia. Everyone wants everyone to think there not mafia. And your post was shit and bladent to avoid the lurker vote. And questioning your own suspicion to cover yourself if he gets lynched and is a townie. Infact Vote: Liverbird
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 03:06:35 PM
Also have a welcome Karma point!  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 03:11:00 PM
Again a no lynch is only worth anything in a timed game. But since we are unable to do that then we have to look at the other choices. At the moment, Mikeblue seems desperate to use the no lynch idea against me despite my reasons for it which, even though we cant do a no lynch anymore, are still valid and imo justify the no lynch option. But again, he might not of actually read posts so might not of grasped my plan.

--Liverbird posted while i was--

Of course he's saying that so we dont think he's mafia. Everyone wants everyone to think there not mafia. And your post was shit and bladent to avoid the lurker vote. And questioning your own suspicion to cover yourself if he gets lynched and is a townie. Infact Vote: Liverbird

Thats harsh. This is Liverbirds first game and she doesn't have a clue about the game and was just trying to join in in some capacity I imagine. I know you can see this from her lack of posts on this site in general. For you to vote her with no evidence whatsoever looks sus to me....even more FOS for Hammerbro

Also where did you see or read that you can not vote no lynch?? I think its you that is not reading all the posts properly as I never miss a trick my son!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 03:12:52 PM
Of course he's saying that so we dont think he's mafia. Everyone wants everyone to think there not mafia. And your post was shit and bladent to avoid the lurker vote. And questioning your own suspicion to cover yourself if he gets lynched and is a townie. Infact Vote: Liverbird

Isn't this your 4th vote so far?  You seem to be ready to start a bandwaggon today dont you mate..

Vote Hammersbro

You know if you lynch a townie first day it will make the rest of the game VERY hard for us..  so throwing your vote around like you dont care who it lands on is positively NOT pro town... 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 03:14:35 PM
Hammerbro you also haven't unvoted so that vote doesn't stand Bandwagon boy  :D
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 03:43:15 PM
Fisrt what the crap is this vote no lynch junk? ???
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 03:45:37 PM
Plus,where the heck is Afroboy??? We dont have school in Summer. Unless you get summer school.

To get things going im going im going to VOTE:AFROBOY
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 03:51:52 PM
Plus,where the heck is Afroboy??? We dont have school in Summer. Unless you get summer school.

To get things going im going im going to VOTE:AFROBOY

Summer holidays......oh those were the days!!!  :cloud9:

I think you and Afro are the new MIASG and Trick Pony  :o
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 27, 2008, 03:53:17 PM
Something tells me this is going to be a very fast paced game...
And hopefully we (the aussies) don't wake up to 10 pages of stuff to read through again :P

MIASG is always suss no matter what... but I doubt he is lucky enough to get the role of Serial Killer again...
I actually think he may be good this time round...

What makes you think that then hey??? Cause he is evil with you???  ::)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 03:56:15 PM
I'm evil I'm evil I'm evil I'm evil dirty scum evil want innocents to die evil black magic boy


??  This speaks for itsself doesn't it...  :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 27, 2008, 03:58:44 PM
Plus,where the heck is Afroboy??? We dont have school in Summer. Unless you get summer school.

To get things going im going im going to VOTE:AFROBOY

It is half term but kids still have school until July over here mate. Don't just go for the 'not posting' rule as some people have genuine reasons for not posting.

Also think first before you type! You look evil in every game!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 27, 2008, 03:59:11 PM
You know if you lynch a townie first day it will make the rest of the game VERY hard for us..  so throwing your vote around like you dont care who it lands on is positively NOT pro town... 

So why did you disagree with the no lynching thing? It's about a 70% chance someone innocent gets killed on day one as it's entirely random (unless someone's is a ridiculously bad player and makes it easy), so if you think killing the wrong person makes it "VERY hard", why can't you see the logic behind not wanting to, in all likelihood, kill off a townie, in order to get the information for the next day? Or are you just being contrary because the majority don't seem to agree, and you want to blend yourself in?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 27, 2008, 04:03:53 PM
I will state this once more so that we are clear.

17 players, bound to be a serial killer

7 nights

Serial killer and Mafia kill a person a night

7 nights x two deaths = 14!!

17 players - 14 deaths = mafia victory


This is unless the doctor saves someone every night or the mafia kills the serial killer. Im starting to get very suspicious of people continuing to push for no lynch on day 1
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 04:05:40 PM

??  This speaks for itsself doesn't it...  :)

I NEVER POSTED THAT!!!!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 04:09:22 PM
So why did you disagree with the no lynching thing? It's about a 70% chance someone innocent gets killed on day one as it's entirely random (unless someone's is a ridiculously bad player and makes it easy), so if you think killing the wrong person makes it "VERY hard", why can't you see the logic behind not wanting to, in all likelihood, kill off a townie, in order to get the information for the next day? Or are you just being contrary because the majority don't seem to agree, and you want to blend yourself in?

so you say 70%., that's pretty close?  with 14 players we had 5 evil roles, which is 65% town.  With 12 players we had 4 evil roles which is 66%..  so with those #'s, we're looking at 11 town & 6 evil...  if we no lynch, we'll start day two with no information just like day one, and probably have a townie or two dead..  

If you're waiting for the numbers to be right, you'll have to wait until the mafia kill off 5 of us before we have good odds of getting a mafia member..  is it a good idea to wait that out, because mathmatically, we could no lynch every day, and win the game.. I'm almost positive that TCH would have saw that, and ensured that the mafia would have ample killing power at night to make sure that we dont do that..

you seem to be battling pretty hard for your friend hammersbro..  why's that?  you in cahoots somehow?  explain why your so staunchly defending his ways?

I NEVER POSTED THAT!!!!!!

I know, and so does everyone else... did I hit a nerve mophead?  quite a reaction there I'd say..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Quig on May 27, 2008, 04:14:29 PM
Unvote
Ok. The fact that the mod of the game wasn't counting the no lynchs kinda implied that they didn't count. That or he mistook them for not voting.
Mike i am only concerned with votes for people, if nobody votes for a person or goes no lynch then nobody will be lynched. But if someone votes for a person then i lynch the person with the most votes even if they have the only vote cast.
There we go. If we were all to vote no lynch and 1 person voted for someone, that someone would be lynched. Even if the majority voted for a no lynch.
Not once have i thrown my vote randomly. Everytime i have voted i have fully justified it. 1. Afroboy for coming on and not posting, 2. No lynch to limit the number of kills to lessen our chances of killing an important townie as to reach the 7 day limit with the ring safely in hobbit hands, 3. Liverbird as there only post was empty and simple lurker avoidance. Since its her first game and shes new i'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now.
You know if you lynch a townie first day it will make the rest of the game VERY hard for us.
Theres exactly the reason behind no lynching. Normally its worth the risk to get a mafia but in a timed game getting to the 7th day wins it for the town. And about it removing the chance to read posts and analyse votes, its actually spurred alot of people into posting quite a bit.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 27, 2008, 04:16:09 PM
I'm here, didn't remember the game started UK Monday...it's Monday morning here...sorry to start in late.

I've been reading up on the rules that TCH posted especially for this game...wow...seems to me that with the possibility of the ring being sort of the difference in this game there might be a significantly unknown role in this game like the mimic role in last with Xmen. I am going to have to reread and look over the roles...been ages since I've seen the movie and can't remember all the names and so forth, just remember things like...short guys with ugly feet, old dude with long beard, cute knight turned king dude, and elf people..lol!

I was reading over all of the banter back and forth on the no-lynch. At first I read that no-lynch thing and thought...what crap?? What would be the benefit of letting moderator kill off someone if we don't lynch, but then TCH said that if we don't vote to lynch someone then there is no-lynch...duh...not sure how I missed that first time. But I was confused there for a bit.

I can actually, hate to say it, see both sides of the arguement, if we choose to do a no-lynch on the first day we "might" actually save a townie as the only games I've been in townie has always died day one...so the odds of that happening....well as sad as it is...appear quite good it will happen again. By doing a no-lynch we at least have some hope we don't kill off one of our own. BUT at the same time, as axeman and hippo point out, it gives us almost nothing to go on. Makes mafia's job quite easy as they can kill easily in the night phase and come out looking absolutly as clean as town. Soooo....I see really more advantage for mafia in looking at it that way.

At least if we vote we have a chance to sus out evil roles. We have a chance to have something to go on for day two. If we have a doctor and/or cop role, we give them some ideas of people to protect and investigate. I think if we just give up and don't post like we aren't going to vote anyone on day one...then it really does kind of make the game harder for us townies.

Those are just my initial thoughts at this moment. I've got to work a bit, but will try to get back on today.

***Someone is posting while I am again...going to post this and then respond****
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 27, 2008, 04:18:58 PM
I will state this once more so that we are clear.

17 players, bound to be a serial killer

7 nights

Serial killer and Mafia kill a person a night

7 nights x two deaths = 14!!

17 players - 14 deaths = mafia victory


This is unless the doctor saves someone every night or the mafia kills the serial killer. Im starting to get very suspicious of people continuing to push for no lynch on day 1
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 27, 2008, 04:20:06 PM
I'l continue to quote that until everyone sees sense.

If we dont start rooting out the evil we will lose.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 27, 2008, 04:24:51 PM
hammerbro not sure but think you have to bold UNVOTE and the players name or it does not count...not sure if this is your first game or not, and that was tactic or mistake...either way...unless I am wrong your vote for livebird would still stand.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 04:34:35 PM
So.. who's not getting involved?  chances are 3 or 4 of the evil's will be sitting back..

we have better odds picking one of them out almost at random for a lynch..

(by the way, bluestars.. it's not monday morning.. it's tuesday... wake up)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 27, 2008, 04:46:13 PM
It is half term but kids still have school until July over here mate. Don't just go for the 'not posting' rule as some people have genuine reasons for not posting.

Also think first before you type! You look evil in every game!

yes but as i have said earlier, hes been online on here but not botherd to say anything now all i want to know and this is the THIRD time in asking is, why had you Afroboy not decided in taking part in the mafia game yet?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 05:08:30 PM
Im sorry...i didnt know that you got out of school later than america
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 05:10:19 PM
Im sorry...i didnt know that you got out of school later than america

It's a big world out there mophead..  some other countries have thier own rules as well..  :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 27, 2008, 05:20:50 PM
I can see both sides of the vote & no vote argument ... only thing is I can't decide which is the wiser .... I just think that the no vote option gives the mafia an easy route into the next day.
I also think we should keep an eye on the players down under... as appearing to be involved in a  petty squabble gave miasg a pass into the later rounds last time.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 05:24:37 PM
Im not mophead anymore. Now that i got my hair cut.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 05:32:06 PM
Hi, sorry guys, here's my thoughts all in one post.

Page 1
whats the point in a no lynch were just wont get anywhere
apart from lose townies through the night
but the first lynch is lucky and usually ends up good
If you read this as if he is mafia talking to another mafia you see it looks veeeeery suspicious and it hardly makes sense if you look at it from a townie point of view, His only post I could find it's so dodgy it's unbelievable! FOS YORKSHIREBLUE.

Page 2
I agree Vote: No LYNCH
Looks very dodgy to me, just says he agrees and then votes.

I have taken note of this axeman and did realise that, that could be the case. but im sticking with Hammerbro as i think hes onto something.
He then goes on to say this about who he agrees about and answering to axemans attack on him. This is the theme for a lot of his posts and I think it's very suspisious. Maybe wes and hammerbro in cahoots?Fos Wesmancity (a lot), and hammerbro.


SVH and Laserblue taking the normal dodgy just "commentator" role on day1, trying not to make anyone mad so I can never be sure on them till day 2.

I suspect because there is a 7 day limit, tch will have put a fair share killing roles in to make sure there's not many left on last day. I think there is a mafia of 4 or 5 with a kill and some other role, a serial killer and a bounty hunter or vigilante. But what everyones missed so far is a chance of a cult, a game with 17 is enough to have one and tch hasn't done one so far.

yes but as i have said earlier, hes been online on here but not botherd to say anything now all i want to know and this is the THIRD time in asking is, why had you Afroboy not decided in taking part in the mafia game yet?
Sorry, the first time you brought this up I had written out a post but couldn't post it cos of internet but the other time I had no excuse, I went on and read through but didn't post.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 05:33:28 PM
Im not mophead anymore. Now that i got my hair cut.
I'm not afroboy now either  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 05:37:05 PM
The no lynch thing a stupid idea cos if everyone just sits back and waits for things to happen it will be too late. It won't get us anywhere and in this game you need to take chances and accuse and vote otherwise mafia will make an easy victory. If we don't get it right once which we probably going to do it still leaves us with decent leads from other peoples votes and things like that to make the other kills right.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 05:47:39 PM
If we town just sit back than every night phase we are going to killed of and thats an easy win for the mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 05:52:58 PM
If we town just sit back than every night phase we are going to killed of and thats an easy win for the mafia.

Sounds good to you doesn't it!! sorry but you're going to lose this one..  town will prevail!!!

(you evil boy!!)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 05:54:12 PM
If we town just sit back than every night phase we are going to killed of and thats an easy win for the mafia.

If you look at my post (the one before this one) I swear I said this exact thing just giving more reason
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 06:01:13 PM
Me, mophead, stevenryals, liverbird, hippo and laser online at the moment and liverbird and hippo only ones not to have posted while being online now
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 06:02:00 PM
it's in interesting change of attitude by the player previously known as mophead .....


1st, he's calling out afroboy going after him for his lack of posting and this and that..  causing a big deal about it.. now that afroboy is here to defend himself against this tactic...  mophead begins to agree with afro...  why?  because he's trying to seem like a townie, but doesnt want to be confronted by anyone..  that's why he's was after afroboy, but now seems like they're best buddies...

Mophead is evil.. i'm telling you.. i can read him like a text message sent on the worlds largest phone..  

listen guys.. if we're going to win this thing.. we have to act like a midget at a urinal...  we've gotta stay on our toes!!!  

live si daehpom live si daehpom
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on May 27, 2008, 06:05:12 PM
Right, thanks mike for sticking up for me, this is my first game and if im totally honest i dont have a clue about all this mafia stuff but im learning , you's are all loosing me with this lynch, no lynch stuff lol so thats why im just reading and taking it all in today to see how this game works really. Sorry hammerbro if my msg was shite but i was just trying to join in lol!  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on May 27, 2008, 06:07:27 PM
I logged on ten minutes ago Afroboy, you could of given me a chance to type something  haha   >:(
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 06:09:35 PM
Sounds good to you doesn't it!! sorry but you're going to lose this one..  town will prevail!!!

(you evil boy!!)

Just cause iwas mafia once doesnt mean im so evil!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 06:11:06 PM
I've not mentioned past games..  I'm talking about this one..  Quit trying to use poor tactics to distance yourself from your obviously evil role..  I can read you like a kindergarden text book made for dyslexic dwarfs..  you're evil
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 27, 2008, 06:13:14 PM
Me, mophead, stevenryals, liverbird, hippo and laser online at the moment and liverbird and hippo only ones not to have posted while being online now

Are you trying to say i'm lurking or something? It's only about 2 hours since i last posted.

But anyway, good pick up on the cult, i think that's quite likely what with all of the witchcrafty type possibilities involved with this theme. So any sudden changes in tactics should be treated very suspiciously from day to day.

I agree with the point stevenryals made about mophead, seemed very much like he was taking the easy option trying to get rid of someone who was yet to make his presence known.

I'm gonna have my lasagne now, but it'll still say i'm online, so if i don't post for 20 minutes, you'll know where i am, afro  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 06:14:35 PM
Right, thanks mike for sticking up for me, this is my first game and if im totally honest i dont have a clue about all this mafia stuff but im learning , you's are all loosing me with this lynch, no lynch stuff lol so thats why im just reading and taking it all in today to see how this game works really. Sorry hammerbro if my msg was shite but i was just trying to join in lol!  :bleh:
Fair enough, 1 newbie card played, 2 to go before I start to get really realy suspisious of you.

it's in interesting change of attitude by the player previously known as mophead .....


1st, he's calling out afroboy going after him for his lack of posting and this and that..  causing a big deal about it.. now that afroboy is here to defend himself against this tactic...  mophead begins to agree with afro...  why?  because he's trying to seem like a townie, but doesnt want to be confronted by anyone..  that's why he's was after afroboy, but now seems like they're best buddies...

Mophead is evil.. i'm telling you.. i can read him like a text message sent on the worlds largest phone..  

listen guys.. if we're going to win this thing.. we have to act like a midget at a urinal...  we've gotta stay on our toes!!!  

live si daehpom live si daehpom

I see your point steve, and why put mophead is evil mophead is evil backwards at the bottom ??? random

I thought mophead was town before but then he started doing his one liners to show he is there which usually dodges trouble. Like you said, he defo is avoiding getting on ppl's bad list on first day a bit lik SVH, only problem is he just joined mine. FOS mophead

I logged on ten minutes ago Afroboy, you could of given me a chance to type something  haha   >:(
Okay okay, I was just pointing it out, it's a way to try and get ppl out posting like I have with you, you'll pick up these little things as the game goes on
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 06:15:04 PM
Gotta go for tea now, will look at hippo post after
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 06:16:26 PM
Gotta go for tea now, will look at hippo post after

I could do with some tea..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 06:23:41 PM
Notice that i still havent UNVOTED afroboy(i didnt bold on purpose)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 27, 2008, 06:24:27 PM
im going to make myself some tea. I have a headache from two exams today and my last one is tommorow. Going to spend all day thursday drinking and watching films starring Bruce Campbell.

But for the meantime every game starts the bloody same! I tread carefully but people suspect me, then they all suspect yorkshire blue. Mophead votes for anyone that hasnt posted (usually Afroboy) and axeman loses his rag.

In future lets just skip to day 2 and be done with it!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 06:35:03 PM
But for the meantime every game starts the bloody same! I tread carefully but people suspect me, then they all suspect yorkshire blue. Mophead votes for anyone that hasnt posted (usually Afroboy) and axeman loses his rag.

In future lets just skip to day 2 and be done with it!
Nice Idea SVH! :laugh: - But there you go like I said commentating on the game, it's neither bad nor good and hard to work out until day 2 or even 3 with you.

Hippo I ain't one of those who stalks people online saying how long they've been on and whether they posted or not not naming any names (*cough*stevenryals*cough*) but I was just trying to get people out giving opinions and attacking other people and helping find out stuff so I used that to do it and it worked to great effect.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 27, 2008, 06:37:16 PM
its because i never know who to go for on the first day!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 06:40:53 PM
You think anybody else does!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 06:51:10 PM
Hippo I ain't one of those who stalks people online saying how long they've been on and whether they posted or not not naming any names (*cough*stevenryals*cough*) but I was just trying to get people out giving opinions and attacking other people and helping find out stuff so I used that to do it and it worked to great effect.

Lets see.. you "ain't" one of those who investigates people trying to find evil..  and what worked to great effect??

you're evil mop.... evil.. you may have them fooled bit I can read you like a message in a bottle sent from a slightly blind man who only had a very large pen to write his message with.. and he assumed that a very large and easily to read message would serve him better than anything else... that's how easily i can read you.. like that..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 06:58:27 PM
good point - first day usually splits everyone in just about half

the first half are the headless chikens and like to go round accusing enyone for anything such as me, mophead, stevenryals, axeman, mikeblue and then wesmancity, TP and miasg after there first goes are starting to go like this. It ain't a bad thing it's just different styles of play.

Then you got people like SVH, Laserblue, Bluestars, Yorkshire and most newbies who like to not go in all guns blazing on day 1 and wait and see what happens then usually making 1 vote at end of day. Again it's just a different style of play

Then you got Hippo and Hammer who I don't really know.

This is just my view on different tactics people use on day1, others may see different patterns.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 07:00:19 PM
When does this day end?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 27, 2008, 07:03:11 PM
steve you say this in every bloody game that hes evil. are you just talking about him personally or in the game?!

if you think hes evil in the game then bloody vote for him  >:(
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 07:11:19 PM
Ive noticed that trick pony ang MIASG arent going crazy at each other. Are they on mafia together?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 27, 2008, 07:11:46 PM
Woops.. that was afroboy's post..   lol

I think he's evil... I've not been wrong yet..  First game I said he was evil on day one.. 2nd game I said I thought he was innocent..  now I believe he's evil again...  

UNVOTE Hammersbro

Not sure if I want to vote for him yet, because I hope he's waiting in agonizing anticipation when I get home from work!!!  the evil scum...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 07:14:22 PM
Does anyone know when day 1 ends please?

Interested to hear from bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 27, 2008, 07:36:56 PM
Oh gosh...it is TUESDAY..lol! See my brain is out of it, still on holiday mode! I am really busy at work but attempting to put this out before I get home.

I don't have much to add as there isn't much to really say at this point as it appears the debate over the no-lynch is no longer a debate...unless I am wrong looks like no one is really set on doing that at this point???

I know the Aussie boys are still asleep I guess..so haven't posted much since I posted this morning..and mophead doesn't make any sense as usual...he's acted nuts as a townie and nuts as mafia...ain't got a clue about him...and never usually do!

Someone mentioned the possibility of a cult...we've said that the last two games could be possible and never turned out..I am not sure if there is but I sure hope not! Seems it would make it too easy for mafia to win, if there was a cult...and I have nothing to base this on as never played in a game with them...I would think to make it fair you'd have to have less mafia than townie...meaning instead of the 60-40 ratio we've had townie to mafia...I would think it would be even less...like 70-30  townie to mafia...but no clue.
I still haven't played enough of these to really guess on that kind of details.

I happen to think that a serial killer/vigilante is most likely though considering all games I've played in had one. I haven't thought much about the other possible roles as honestly like I said before I can't really remember the movie character names and have been at work and no chance to look it up.

It does seem like the same folks call the same folks out in each game...and yes no matter how much I try to wipe out the last game...some folks will of course appear evil to me at first. I TRY to wipe the last games out of my mind, that is why I am normally less eager to vote early on day one.

I have to finish work for now.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on May 27, 2008, 08:51:27 PM
Alright guys, just checking in. Just arrived today so been settling in. Gonna have abit more time to read tomorrow and post what I think on all this No Lynch business.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on May 27, 2008, 09:15:42 PM
holy crap, I just re-read the rules...
after initially under the impression a day would last 7 real life days max, I was shocked to find that we have 72 hours after the last person has posted until the day ends...

this means we really do need to get our asses in gear.

I'm wondering why Afroboy kept bleeting on about when the day will end? why not re-read the rules like i just did... Mafia tactic by acting dumb?

Something just doesnt feel right about MIASG, he seems too eager to play the 'I have been evil last 2 games, theres no chance i will be again' card...

StevenRyals, His Contribution has generally been bollocks and seemingly wanting to add the subliminal message of Mophead is evil... going for the easy target or just trying to put pressure on him?

Mikeblue in one of his posts seems to of gone off his head like i did about the no-lynch, at first read i thought he was copying what i had said. trying to get an allie perhaps?

Due to Wes's virtually instant agreement with Hammersbro and voting No Lynch, I have this inkling that they could be part of a team... Good or Evil?, I'm not too sure.

Bluestars is doing her usual dither about sit on the fence stuff.

UNVOTE WESMANCITY
VOTE MIASG
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 09:44:36 PM
Finally I have someone elses proper view instead of:
"I don't have much to add as there isn't much to really say at this point" (quote from I like painting fences)
"I hate mophead, mophead is evil, die die die"(quote from mr.evil)
"I never know on day fence... I mean day one"(quote from the commentator)

Soz I am pretty dumb axeman lol!

I'm gonna wait till tomorrow before making my decision on what I think about the Aussies. Then I'll make a vote.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 27, 2008, 10:22:08 PM

I'd like steve to explain why he's so sure Mophead is evil ... or are you just winding him up.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 10:30:09 PM
Hes doing it because i was mafia and i killed him in the night phase my first game
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 27, 2008, 10:32:16 PM
Been trying to read through and formulate my views on people, because it's not that easy at this stage. Steve Van Halen had my vote because he's doing this bizarre commentating role that he seems to have adopted, "treading carefully" as he puts it. Good people shouldn't have to tread carefully in the game, they should be out trying to effect the game in a positive manner.

But there's someone else who has made me think twice about them. This is Yorkshire's only post of the game so far, and he's usually pretty active..

whats the point in a no lynch were just wont get anywhere
apart from lose townies through the night
but the first lynch is lucky and usually ends up good

and it adds nothing. Absolutely nothing. What i would suggest he's doing is that, in his experience, he knows that people find him suspicious, due to his posting style in most games. So he's decided that in order to be successful in an evil role this time, he's going to try and stay out of the way as much as possible. Bet he turns up in a soon though..

unvote: SVH
vote: Yorkshire blue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 27, 2008, 10:50:27 PM
I said this in my very first post, at the top of it I FOS yorkshire for that post because if you think of it as if he is evil talking another evil it makes more sense than if it is a good talking to another good, you can check it on I think page 5.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 27, 2008, 10:58:13 PM
Wait is livebird a girl?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 28, 2008, 05:19:47 PM
so you say 70%., that's pretty close?  with 14 players we had 5 evil roles, which is 65% town.  With 12 players we had 4 evil roles which is 66%..  so with those #'s, we're looking at 11 town & 6 evil...  if we no lynch, we'll start day two with no information just like day one, and probably have a townie or two dead..  

If you're waiting for the numbers to be right, you'll have to wait until the mafia kill off 5 of us before we have good odds of getting a mafia member..  is it a good idea to wait that out, because mathmatically, we could no lynch every day, and win the game.. I'm almost positive that TCH would have saw that, and ensured that the mafia would have ample killing power at night to make sure that we dont do that..

you seem to be battling pretty hard for your friend hammersbro..  why's that?  you in cahoots somehow?  explain why your so staunchly defending his ways?

I know, and so does everyone else... did I hit a nerve mophead?  quite a reaction there I'd say..

I think the mod should look into this.......quoting people that havn't actually said something lol. Can't be right  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 28, 2008, 05:47:46 PM
Right the site has been down all day today as I'm sure you are aware.

I have just read through 3 pages of posts and will try and get on again 2moro but am playing golf and then drinking lots and lots of poison.

Finishing work now so can't post much but would like to point out to those who didn't read TCH post that if 16 people vote no lynch and 1 person votes someone then it would be the person with one vote that gets lynched.

Waiting to hear from our friends down under also as all I'm seeing now is the usual trash talk with no foundation or material.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 28, 2008, 05:48:49 PM
Wait is livebird a girl?

Yes
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 28, 2008, 05:50:36 PM
holy crap, I just re-read the rules...
after initially under the impression a day would last 7 real life days max, I was shocked to find that we have 72 hours after the last person has posted until the day ends...

this means we really do need to get our asses in gear.

I'm wondering why Afroboy kept bleeting on about when the day will end? why not re-read the rules like i just did... Mafia tactic by acting dumb?

Something just doesnt feel right about MIASG, he seems too eager to play the 'I have been evil last 2 games, theres no chance i will be again' card...

StevenRyals, His Contribution has generally been bollocks and seemingly wanting to add the subliminal message of Mophead is evil... going for the easy target or just trying to put pressure on him?

Mikeblue in one of his posts seems to of gone off his head like i did about the no-lynch, at first read i thought he was copying what i had said. trying to get an allie perhaps?

Due to Wes's virtually instant agreement with Hammersbro and voting No Lynch, I have this inkling that they could be part of a team... Good or Evil?, I'm not too sure.

Bluestars is doing her usual dither about sit on the fence stuff.

UNVOTE WESMANCITY
VOTE MIASG


Not trying to form allies Happy just giving my view!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 28, 2008, 05:55:39 PM
I think the vote no lynch crap is stupid. These games are suposed to be fun.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 28, 2008, 06:05:04 PM
Im glad the site is finally back up
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 28, 2008, 06:18:27 PM
I trieed to get on at work but couldn't ... I thought IT had blocked the site :laugh:

any way just read through & not much I presume the ausies could not get on last night

anyway I'll consider what's going on & try to come back with a vote before deadline

Tommy can you give us a vote count ... so we can see where we are ...

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 28, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
AfroBoy - been fairly active, seems to be playing similar to past games...
Bluestars  -  enjoying the view from the commentators box
FootballNewb - gone quiet here hasnt he..
Hammerbro - since the pressure of the first couple real days.. he's gone quiet as well..
Happy Axeman - probably broke now that he's had to pay for the site bandwidth.. lol..   most likely evil
Hippo - less active than he was when he was the leader of the town.. leads me to believe he's either nothing or evil..
LaserBlue - popping on a bit more than usual..  somewhat suspicious
Liverbird - new, and playing like she's new..  cant tell anything about her yet..
Miasg - has avoided confrontation for the most part, which is suspcious because that's his trademark..
MikeBlue - not sure about this guy... will read back again later after work settles down a bit..
Mophead - he lives with me.. and he just acts funny about the game when he's evil.. i know it's not supposed to effect my opinion.. but i see him everyday, how can I not let it effect my judgement..  and it's extremely fun to wind him up..  :)
Sir Hammer - just got back?  maybe so.. but possibly squeezing all the life out of this excuse now.. 
SVH - playing a bit different, but i think he's the only united supporter in this game. so lynch him now!! :)
Trick Pony - havent heard too much from him .. he's stayed away from MIASG for a good bit of the game, which makes me think they may be on the same team.. one of the two may be a good target for lynching today..
Wesmancity - cant decide on wes..  he bottled it bad last game, so maybe we should wait for him to slip up and just say what he is accidently  lol
Yorkshire Blue - 1 post.??  it's hard to justify this activity in a game that's got a 72 hr time limit on day one..  but he could be town.. so it's really difficult to decide weather to lynch him or not.. #'s are important in this game, because all we need is one little wee-man left...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 28, 2008, 07:16:03 PM
Can we get an extra 24 hours to compensate for the lost time, by any chance?

Hippo - less active than he was when he was the leader of the town.. leads me to believe he's either nothing or evil..

Just trying out a different approach.. nobody listens to me if i post my long rants about people, so i'm trying to be more concise in the accusations i've made. They're still there, the thing is though, one vote isn't pressure is it? I need some help as well.

Yorkshire has posted once, it made no real sense, unless you read it in the way afro said, and then gone in to hiding since. He has been active on the forums since he posted, so it's got to be classed as lurking. Lurking after making yourself look suspicious only exacerbates the situation, so my vote stands.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 28, 2008, 07:31:02 PM
I think Yorkshire is playing a clever game this time round, as in the last game he posted little and got lynched in day one and turned out to be a townie. So a bit of kidology this time round from him so hes deff FOS for Yorkshireblue from me. So you dont get lynched again Yorkie can you please get into the game more as if you turn out to be a townie again then you have not done yourself justice and not doing us any favours what so ever.

Vote Yorkshire Blue  untill you convince me to change my mind.

P.S. Steven thanks for the confidence matey you make me sound a right numpty!!  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 28, 2008, 07:41:36 PM
P.S. Steven thanks for the confidence matey you make me sound a right numpty!!  ;)

it was your first game..  :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 28, 2008, 07:47:05 PM
Your votes make you look real sus wes
first you jump straight on the no votes idea & then you come on straight after hippo had voted yorkshire & vote for him ...
it could be your inexperience at this game but it looks like you are always going with the soft option

Having said that yorkshire has yet again managed to make himself look sus by non posting & when he does he doesn't say much, he did this last game ..got himself killed & turned out to be a townie .. if he does it again I'll be really pissed >:(

I think extending the day might be a good idea as we need to hear from the aussies footienewb seems to be slipping under the net.

Hammer your one of the most experienced players on here.... so if you are good please come on & help .

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 28, 2008, 07:51:32 PM
Your votes make you look real sus wes
first you jump straight on the no votes idea & then you come on straight after hippo had voted yorkshire & vote for him ...
it could be your inexperience at this game but it looks like you are always going with the soft option

Having said that yorkshire has yet again managed to make himself look sus by non posting & when he does he doesn't say much, he did this last game ..got himself killed & turned out to be a townie .. if he does it again I'll be really pissed >:(

I think extending the day might be a good idea as we need to hear from the aussies footienewb seems to be slipping under the net.

Hammer your one of the most experienced players on here.... so if you are good please come on & help .




so by that post do you agree or disagree??  ??? FOS Laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on May 28, 2008, 07:52:39 PM
The people that have struck me as strange straight away have to be Mikeblue, Miasg and now Wesmancity

Mikeblue seemed very opposed to the no lynch, and I think grasping onto an easy train of thought that Hammerbro must be evil.

Miasg, and Wesmancity reek of suspiciousness right now, but I have nothing solid to go on. Wes more so because of jumping on Yorkshire straight away.

Vote:Mikeblue as his posts have made me feel the most uneasy.
FOS:the other two
I think the No Lynch strategy is a no-go right now based on SVH figures which make sense, but perhaps we could revisit it next day when we have abit more information hopefully. The possibility of a cult cant be ignored along with the idea of a Mafia + 1 other Mafia or Serial .

Think Stevenryals is being a bit aggressive saying that people are laying low when the servers been down for a day. Could be something to ponder.

Laserblue: Will have more time to read over everything soon and give some proper opinions on stuff. At my girlfriends house, and already in deep water in terms of being a "dork" so this isnt helping. Had a mare earlier when we thought Scallions were the same thing as Scallops so perhaps my deductive skills are not what they used to be
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 28, 2008, 08:05:33 PM
So far I'm bringing down my vote to the people I have FOS'd: yorkshire, mophead, hammerbro and wesmancity.

Plus,where the heck is Afroboy??? We dont have school in Summer. Unless you get summer school.

To get things going im going im going to VOTE:AFROBOY

I am here, you only did this to get things going or so you say and you agreed with me on my views before so why still vote for me.

Anyone watchin england ryt now ???

Any score predictions!?!?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 28, 2008, 08:18:52 PM
Just getting back on here....DON'T SAY THE SCORE...we have it recording..lol!

Okay...It was totally lost on me that the first day was narrowed down to 72 hours, I am sorry did not catch that previously? Does that mean we might get a little extra time, or not, and if not, how much time do we have left?

I'm rereading and will post my thoughts in a bit.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 28, 2008, 08:20:01 PM
Anyone watchin england ryt now ???
Any score predictions!?!?

not on this thread please, Im recording and will watch when i get home...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 28, 2008, 08:20:56 PM
Okay, I just read the first page again and I am lost, I read it says that the game will last seven mafia days, I don't see anything about 72 hours? I am not sure can TCH please confirm?

I'm not trying to be a complete pill here, but I want to make sure I understand.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 28, 2008, 08:25:08 PM
Your votes make you look real sus wes
first you jump straight on the no votes idea & then you come on straight after hippo had voted yorkshire & vote for him ...
it could be your inexperience at this game but it looks like you are always going with the soft option

Having said that yorkshire has yet again managed to make himself look sus by non posting & when he does he doesn't say much, he did this last game ..got himself killed & turned out to be a townie .. if he does it again I'll be really pissed >:(

I think extending the day might be a good idea as we need to hear from the aussies footienewb seems to be slipping under the net.

Hammer your one of the most experienced players on here.... so if you are good please come on & help .



Laserblue you are really sus yourself you attack me saying that I jump on the idea of voting no lynch, I did agree i will not lie to you I though it was a good idea as we need to kill the mafia. Untill axeman explained the reason why we should lynch people instead of voting no lynch. Your post are well playing it safe you try and play the agree with everone and disagree with no one

YOU ACTUALLY AGREE IN THESE POSTS TO A NO LYNCH AND THE ATTACK ME FOR JUMPING IN  ???

can tommy please clarify whether we can vote no lynch in this game .. it's his game so he makes the rules I guess.

I think it's a good idea but if everyone just comes on & votes no lynch then we face day two in exactly the same position none the wiser but possibly two down ... I don't see how this helps the town.

I can see both sides of the vote & no vote argument ... only thing is I can't decide which is the wiser .... I just think that the no vote option gives the mafia an easy route into the next day.
I also think we should keep an eye on the players down under... as appearing to be involved in a  petty squabble gave miasg a pass into the later rounds last time.

I am a mason and laserblue you are evil.

UNVOTE yorkshireblue
VOTE Laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 28, 2008, 08:26:26 PM
Just getting back on here....DON'T SAY THE SCORE...we have it recording..lol!

HAHA..  THATS WHAT I SAID!!!


Okay...It was totally lost on me that the first day was narrowed down to 72 hours, I am sorry did not catch that previously? Does that mean we might get a little extra time, or not, and if not, how much time do we have left?

I'm rereading and will post my thoughts in a bit.

AGAIN.... you do the "here I am.. dont vote for me because i'm reading.." blah blah blah..  


and you should read the other 8 pages as well.. because it says:

"All but 3 have posted, once the last 3 post, there will be a 72 hour time limit on the first day"

or something to that effect..

usually you are very detail oriented..  I know for a fact you read every post when you're town..  you've neglected to read the first 3 pages.. or ignored the important posts from the moderators... which is definately not like you..

You are evil.

VOTE Bluestarsneyes  because when you really couldn't be arsed to dig through pages of posts because your evil.. you end up screwing up and admitting that you've not read the posts...

town read posts.. town analyze posts..
mafia try to, just to seem like they're town, but it's not important to them.. that's why they slip up sometimes..

boddaboom baddabing
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 28, 2008, 08:29:22 PM
I am a mason and laserblue you are evil.

bit early for roleclaiming isnt it...

1st, i never believe a role claim anyway, do you ?  eh? slipstream?

2nd, i hope everyone doesnt follow suite.. because that'll ruin the game.. its kinda supposed to be a secret.. that's what makes the game fun..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 28, 2008, 08:31:46 PM
I said I am READING...as in I was actually READING..unlike some of the dopes in these games and yes I JUST realized that TCH posted the 72 hour bit in the post after the rules in the start of the game...give me time I'm having to WORK and play this game...gah!

I DID read the rules I did not see the 72 hour bit...very poor vote for me....but not surprised..you were being too nice to me it was making me nervous..you didn't start the bluestars is evil bit yet....blah blah blah.

I am still READING...just like I said and I'll post my opinions in a bit..but I have posted in this game a few times and feel I have had something to say. I just do not want to vote before I reread everything.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 28, 2008, 08:40:51 PM
Laserblue you are really sus yourself you attack me saying that I jump on the idea of voting no lynch, I did agree i will not lie to you I though it was a good idea as we need to kill the mafia. Untill axeman explained the reason why we should lynch people instead of voting no lynch. Your post are well playing it safe you try and play the agree with everone and disagree with no one

YOU ACTUALLY AGREE IN THESE POSTS TO A NO LYNCH AND THE ATTACK ME FOR JUMPING IN  ???

I am a mason and laserblue you are evil.

UNVOTE yorkshireblue
VOTE Laserblue

Keep your hair on

I didn't even fos you never mind vote ???

If you are a mason why have you come out & said this on the first day ???
Don't you know that if you are it makes a target for the mafia or whoever else there maybe in the game

Yes I agreed that yorkshire looked sus
but I was pointing out to you that if you are on the good side your posts are doing you no favours & will get you killed off... I'm not the only one who has pointed this out to you & most of those who have were experienced players.

I'd think this was an elaborate hoax & you were some sort of evil but I think sadly you show your inexperience once again by giving away what you are so early  :'(
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 28, 2008, 08:45:04 PM
I am a mason and laserblue you are evil.

I reeeally don't understand why you've just said this. The only possible positive i can see is that i gives us slightly better odds for finding some scum today, but it's also going to reduce our chances for the rest of the game i'd wager. It was just unneccessary, you weren't under THAT much pressure, and it's given the mafia information that they didn't need to have.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 28, 2008, 08:53:20 PM
I am still READING...just like I said and I'll post my opinions in a bit..but I have posted in this game a few times and feel I have had something to say. I just do not want to vote before I reread everything.

So you posted, and 'had something to say'... but failed to read the part about the 72 hour bit?

when a townie logs on to 5 pages of posts, they read them all (except for mophead) and disect them trying to find the evil..  if your motive isnt to find evil.. you usually skim through, and post a little fence sitting snippet so that you seem to be sniffing out evil..

so , you 've posted a few times, and each time you've read the thread looking for evil.. I guess you just failed to notice the important things... very unlike you.. you're a detailed player.. just look at the way you defended trick pony in mafia 11...  very detail oriented..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 28, 2008, 10:41:10 PM
I really don't know what to do because of wesmancitys erratic behaviour! It's completely confused me.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 28, 2008, 11:03:45 PM
Ive noticed that trick pony ang MIASG arent going crazy at each other. Are they on mafia together?
  he might be but i'm not .. I'm not at work at the moment for him to try and get a real time reaction out of me - which I've said in a previous post somewhere early - frickin read all of them mophead !  it's what cost you in the last game.  I'm still on page 8 - don't know about all of you but I had some errors getting to axemans page for a day (about hosts bandwidth) and then I have 8-9 pages to read !  TP has been quiet so I've got nothing to hammer him on .. he's the one that usually starts the posts against me anyway.    so far from what I've read FOS wes, mophead, stevenryalls, and hammerbro
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 28, 2008, 11:06:36 PM
Ye everyone had the bandwidth problem I think, tp best be on before end of day
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 28, 2008, 11:16:44 PM
C'MON TP and FOOTYNEWB gotta contribute something fellas (surely me stirring you up will get you :clown: posting)

Footy your being as quiet same as the first game again ..

I'm off to the hospital very soon to hopefully see the birth of son #3 .. I hope to check back here later tonight (my time) but that's why i'll be quiet for a while  - bet I still past more than half the people here  :bleh:

and axeman would you like me to role claim this early to prove i'm townie ?  but I can see how suss I look no matter what I post after the subterfuge from previous games. 

Stevenryals I laughed when you said I'm not being my confrontational self .. I think it's only been with Amadjin and TP in the games I've played so far .. and TP's not had a go at me yet this game.  I think since I kept outlasting him  he's trying a new tact. 

I'm still not voting yet as we have some days up our sleaves and a lot are being too quiet and not much else is really being said so far ..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 28, 2008, 11:21:24 PM
  he might be but i'm not .. I'm not at work at the moment for him to try and get a real time reaction out of me - which I've said in a previous post somewhere early - frickin read all of them mophead !  it's what cost you in the last game.  I'm still on page 8 - don't know about all of you but I had some errors getting to axemans page for a day (about hosts bandwidth) and then I have 8-9 pages to read !  TP has been quiet so I've got nothing to hammer him on .. he's the one that usually starts the posts against me anyway.    so far from what I've read FOS wes, mophead, stevenryalls, and hammerbro


How can u clam me being quiet when the sites been unavaliable ? That really makes you look  >:D MIASG which seem sus to me, I wasnt going to make this game revolve around you like the last one but you may have just done that again  ::) Anyway I have alot to catch up on so i will read up and post from there.  Though FOS MIASG for his poor form  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 28, 2008, 11:44:23 PM
Please can we have a vote count
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 29, 2008, 12:01:18 AM
Okay I vote yorkshire cos he only made one post
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 29, 2008, 12:02:37 AM
ok, the site was down for most of our Day here so sorry for not posting an update. The current votes are

AfroBoy    2 Votes
Bluestars  1 Vote
LaserBlue  1 Vote
Miasg       1 Vote
MikeBlue   1 Vote
Yorkshire Blue   1 Vote


Yet to Vote  Afro, Bluestars, FootballNewb, Liverbird, LaserBlue, Miasg, MikeBlue, SVH, Trick Pony and YorkshireBlue.

Hammerbro unless you unvote any other votes will not count hence your vote for Afro still stands.

Time time limit kicked in once the last person posted so from that time to the site going down was 6 hours, the first post today was about 6 hours ago so you now have

60 hours until the end of Day One which works out to Midday Saturday UK time, 9:00pm in Aus and no idea what timezone you are on in the US sorry.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 29, 2008, 12:41:26 AM
And FOS MIASG this man cannot be trusted under any circumstances and was born evil!!! He is Freddy Cruagar and you just can't change evil!!!

I would have to agress with you here Mike, MIASG is either always evil as in MAFIA or Serial Killer otherwise hes a :clown:  :bleh: he has lied his way through the past two games so I cannot believe a word he has to say in this game, I will consider it but I can never trust him as the results from the last game have proven that to everyone. I know this is a new game and its random selection etc I just want everyone to be aware of these kinds of players so we dont get nailed like the last game
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 29, 2008, 01:11:33 AM
I will state this once more so that we are clear.

17 players, bound to be a serial killer

7 nights

Serial killer and Mafia kill a person a night

7 nights x two deaths = 14!!

17 players - 14 deaths = mafia victory


This is unless the doctor saves someone every night or the mafia kills the serial killer. Im starting to get very suspicious of people continuing to push for no lynch on day 1

I agree SVH, I cant see the point in playing with the no lynch rule, whats the point in playing in the first place that takes the excitement out of the game not knowing what will happen, just look at the last game... Also look at the information SVH provided above it makes sense to me so either vote or we lose as we dont know what kind of roles TCH has install for us this game
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 29, 2008, 01:53:01 AM
you agree a lot TP .. don't come up with much yourself though .. plus Footynewb is the silent one here .. I know the site was down but until then you were unusually quiet .. obviously your too busy doing the work I left for you then to post (that's actually a good thing I think)

StevenRyals your posts seem to be more accusive of people then helping the townies find the bad guys .. unless that's your aim .. I dunno you seem to be acting as wierd as the last game .. and as you said you suck at being mafia .. 

Wes what a wierd role claim .. I guess the other mason(s) aren't too happy but I must say it takes you right off the radar for me..  I suspect I will have to role claim day 1 or 2 as people just won't believe I'm townie (cry wolf anyone?) .. well they might think I am but there's no trust.   :'(

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 29, 2008, 01:56:52 AM
baby's due in 4 hours so I''m off ..
:bye2: for now ..
:pray: for us that the little :dummy: is ok
I'm feeling a bit :sick:
but I'm sure I'll be :smitten: with the worlds newest  :cityfan:

(sorry to hijak the mafia game with this  :blush: )
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 29, 2008, 01:59:16 AM
Ye everyone had the bandwidth problem I think, tp best be on before end of day

YES... AXEMAN HAD TO FORK OUT SOME MAJOR CASH TODAY TO GET THE SITE BACK UP...  I CONTRIBUTED 20 QUID..

IF YOU HAVE PAYPAL.. PUT IN A FEW QUID TO THE AXEMAN VIA PAYPAL TO :    GENERAL@HAPPYAXEMAN.CO.UK

If you like the mafia games and the site.. help the man out..  I'm not sure I could live without it.. so i gave what I could..

You do the same..   5 quid.. 10 quid..   whatever you can afford to give to the ol' axeman..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 29, 2008, 02:08:26 AM
Ive noticed that trick pony ang MIASG arent going crazy at each other. Are they on mafia together?

nah hes just on holidays for 3 months so I cant see his reaction  ;D his son is due today / tomorrow I think so if he doesnt pop up for a few days its probably because of that though TCH and I will post if that happens. Though MIASG is always evil as I said above though everyone already knows that  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 29, 2008, 02:17:26 AM
AfroBoy - been fairly active, seems to be playing similar to past games...
Bluestars  -  enjoying the view from the commentators box
FootballNewb - gone quiet here hasnt he..
Hammerbro - since the pressure of the first couple real days.. he's gone quiet as well..
Happy Axeman - probably broke now that he's had to pay for the site bandwidth.. lol..   most likely evil
Hippo - less active than he was when he was the leader of the town.. leads me to believe he's either nothing or evil..
LaserBlue - popping on a bit more than usual..  somewhat suspicious
Liverbird - new, and playing like she's new..  cant tell anything about her yet..
Miasg - has avoided confrontation for the most part, which is suspcious because that's his trademark..
MikeBlue - not sure about this guy... will read back again later after work settles down a bit..
Mophead - he lives with me.. and he just acts funny about the game when he's evil.. i know it's not supposed to effect my opinion.. but i see him everyday, how can I not let it effect my judgement..  and it's extremely fun to wind him up..  :)
Sir Hammer - just got back?  maybe so.. but possibly squeezing all the life out of this excuse now.. 
SVH - playing a bit different, but i think he's the only united supporter in this game. so lynch him now!! :)
Trick Pony - havent heard too much from him .. he's stayed away from MIASG for a good bit of the game, which makes me think they may be on the same team.. one of the two may be a good target for lynching today..
Wesmancity - cant decide on wes..  he bottled it bad last game, so maybe we should wait for him to slip up and just say what he is accidently  lol
Yorkshire Blue - 1 post.??  it's hard to justify this activity in a game that's got a 72 hr time limit on day one..  but he could be town.. so it's really difficult to decide weather to lynch him or not.. #'s are important in this game, because all we need is one little wee-man left...

im just trying to focus on the game instead of playing the usual MIASG game  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 29, 2008, 02:22:01 AM
I think extending the day might be a good idea as we need to hear from the aussies footienewb seems to be slipping under the net.


FOS Footballnewb for flying under the rader come out and play  :bleh: im over people being quiet on the first day
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 29, 2008, 02:28:04 AM
HAHA..  THATS WHAT I SAID!!!


AGAIN.... you do the "here I am.. dont vote for me because i'm reading.." blah blah blah..  


and you should read the other 8 pages as well.. because it says:

"All but 3 have posted, once the last 3 post, there will be a 72 hour time limit on the first day"

or something to that effect..

usually you are very detail oriented..  I know for a fact you read every post when you're town..  you've neglected to read the first 3 pages.. or ignored the important posts from the moderators... which is definately not like you..

You are evil.

VOTE Bluestarsneyes  because when you really couldn't be arsed to dig through pages of posts because your evil.. you end up screwing up and admitting that you've not read the posts...

town read posts.. town analyze posts..
mafia try to, just to seem like they're town, but it's not important to them.. that's why they slip up sometimes..

boddaboom baddabing


I ALREADY SAID THAT EVERY GAME IM IN!!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 29, 2008, 02:28:13 AM
Ye everyone had the bandwidth problem I think, tp best be on before end of day

Afro your choice of wording has me worried  ??? seem like you know something the rest of us dont !! why are you talking about before the end of the day have you already made plans for me  ??? your at the top of my list for Mafia so far matie so explain yourself please
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 29, 2008, 02:35:10 AM
you agree a lot TP .. don't come up with much yourself though .. plus Footynewb is the silent one here .. I know the site was down but until then you were unusually quiet .. obviously your too busy doing the work I left for you then to post (that's actually a good thing I think)

StevenRyals your posts seem to be more accusive of people then helping the townies find the bad guys .. unless that's your aim .. I dunno you seem to be acting as wierd as the last game .. and as you said you suck at being mafia .. 

Wes what a wierd role claim .. I guess the other mason(s) aren't too happy but I must say it takes you right off the radar for me..  I suspect I will have to role claim day 1 or 2 as people just won't believe I'm townie (cry wolf anyone?) .. well they might think I am but there's no trust.   :'(



I was just catching up, and posting what I was thinking at the time instead of waiting till i read everything, its better to see how people react at the time instead of having more time to think it over, anyway good luck and I will save you some work for when you get back slacko  :bleh: I might even try starting a bandwagon on you like you did the first game to me when you knew I was away camping for the long weekend  :laugh: but then again that would be bad for the town and im better than that so I wont attack you unless you let something slip  :rambo:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 29, 2008, 02:39:30 AM
YES... AXEMAN HAD TO FORK OUT SOME MAJOR CASH TODAY TO GET THE SITE BACK UP...  I CONTRIBUTED 20 QUID..

IF YOU HAVE PAYPAL.. PUT IN A FEW QUID TO THE AXEMAN VIA PAYPAL TO :    GENERAL@HAPPYAXEMAN.CO.UK

If you like the mafia games and the site.. help the man out..  I'm not sure I could live without it.. so i gave what I could..

You do the same..   5 quid.. 10 quid..   whatever you can afford to give to the ol' axeman..

Hey Steve do you speak aussie as all ? quid looks like squid to me mate other than TCH none of us could work out what the conversion rate is  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on May 29, 2008, 02:44:06 AM
Alright....this is what I think.

Yorkshire I really think that you could be evil this game.

So im going to vote yorkshireblue

Im not going to be on for about a week.
Im going to Church cam :)p and will make a post whenever I get back.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 29, 2008, 03:12:38 AM
did you unvote Afro mophead ??
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 29, 2008, 03:41:39 AM
TP is freaking me out.. he's being silly in a game where PEOPLE CAN DIE!!!

UNVOTE BLUESTARSNEYES

VOTE TRICKPONY

people with strong defense mechanisms usually act this way when they're hiding something
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 29, 2008, 04:03:34 AM
TP is freaking me out.. he's being silly in a game where PEOPLE CAN DIE!!!

UNVOTE BLUESTARSNEYES

VOTE TRICKPONY

people with strong defense mechanisms usually act this way when they're hiding something

Steve explain how im freaking you out  ??? defense mechanisms are used in response to when your being targeted, I just dont want to get killed again for a guess, it really looks like you are trying to mark a target over my head just like you did in the last game and you ended up being the godfather to the poor townie :annoyed: I hope you and your mates dont start a bandwagon like the last game, provide facts instead of weak comments like the ones above as unimformed votes got too many of us killed in the last game, look at me for instance I attacked MIASG as normal and I got killed by WV when I was the doctor go figure  ???

Though your quick reaction voting also looks like you and BLUESTARSNEYES are in cahoots
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on May 29, 2008, 11:29:00 AM
wow 8 pages just read
havent been had time to get on last couple of days then tried yesterday and couldnt
i hate the first day
trick pony looks sus he as just done about 7 of the last 10 posts with not alot in is this just so he looks like he as posted alot
mophead come one you could give a reason for voting for me
footballnewbie as he even posted
theres others looking sus but i wont vote for now
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 29, 2008, 12:17:38 PM
hey all back so far .. (everything went well  :D)

see I told you all TP doesn't need my help to look  >:D ..

 :curtainpeek: footynewb are you playing this game ?  I know your around mate - speak up a little I can't hear you. 

A few others went off with a bang got called suss and have now gone flown to the background ..

still waiting for mophead to go crazy ..

StevenRyals I liked your backwards message but i'm still looking for the anagrams  8)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Quig on May 29, 2008, 12:53:20 PM
Unvote: Afroboy
Afro your choice of wording has me worried  ??? seem like you know something the rest of us dont !! why are you talking about before the end of the day have you already made plans for me  ??? your at the top of my list for Mafia so far matie so explain yourself please

When people start picking at peoples wording it means there desperate. I'm gonna keep an eye on TP for a bit.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 29, 2008, 01:31:50 PM
, provide facts instead of weak comments like the ones above as unimformed votes got too many of us killed in the last game, look at me for instance I attacked MIASG as normal and I got killed by WV when I was the doctor go figure  ???

You want facts?   there are no facts?  if you wait for facts then you're going to be waiting for someone to die.. then you know exactly who they are..  unfortunately we dont have that luxury now do we?

in this game, you have to read into things..  I think you're hiding something, that's why your defense mechanism kicked so hard...  vote stays on you mate..

you think i'm in cahoots with bluestars.. ??  that's silly..  have you read this thread?  bluestars, you and Miasg are the of my prime candidates for evil at this point..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 29, 2008, 02:06:12 PM
You want facts?   there are no facts?  if you wait for facts then you're going to be waiting for someone to die.. then you know exactly who they are..  unfortunately we dont have that luxury now do we?

in this game, you have to read into things..  I think you're hiding something, that's why your defense mechanism kicked so hard...  vote stays on you mate..

you think i'm in cahoots with bluestars.. ??  that's silly..  have you read this thread?  bluestars, you and Miasg are the of my prime candidates for evil at this point..
why me ?  what have I done so far on this game that makes you think I'm evil ?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 29, 2008, 02:10:19 PM
because of your jokey posts..  you're not searching out evil.. you're playing a game.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 29, 2008, 02:55:35 PM
I'm finding myself agreeing with some of the points made about bluestars. She clearly hadn't been reading the posts properly in this game to accuse people as steveryals pointed out, and i find it especially careless not to have read the rules at least, because of the uniqueness of the game. But then, your main focus as an evil person would be ensuring that no-one noticed you, rather than trying to analyse the posts and find out who's who.

She seemed to get flustered by steven's accusations and claimed to still be reading and would post back when she was done.. she didn't. She hasn't put forward anything, from what i can find anyway. Someone correct me if i'm wrong?

I am still READING...just like I said and I'll post my opinions in a bit..but I have posted in this game a few times and feel I have had something to say. I just do not want to vote before I reread everything.

That reads to me like she's been trying to post the right sort of amount to be deemed active, but not enough to have any real impact, and is annoyed that she's received attention even whilst playing those tactics.

I DID read the rules I did not see the 72 hour bit...very poor vote for me....but not surprised..you were being too nice to me it was making me nervous..you didn't start the bluestars is evil bit yet....blah blah blah.

And this tries to pass off a valid vote as being just something that steven does, and everyone else should ignore it. And to be fair, steven has made this quite an easy defense to make with his consistent accusations of mophead for reasons that it's impossible for anyone else to understand. But i still think he's on to something with you.

There's nine pages (i think) now, and as you feel as though you've had something to say, why not say it now? Convince everyone you're not just trying to lay low, use your thoughts to accuse people and help the town. If you don't do that, then i can only come to one conclusion.

FOS bluestars for now.

still not changing my vote though.. i was going to when i saw yorkshire had been dragged out of the background, but the fact that he just posted that he's read it all, and didn't add anything, has made the vote stay a bit longer.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 29, 2008, 03:09:49 PM
(TCH, Mophead will be out from today through Sunday...not sure what to do about that...he does have a cell phone but no web access.)

I am not in kahoots with stevenryals...I haven't had much access to the two hogs I live with that use all the computer time....to respond to him voting for me...otherwise I would of course defended myself. But how in the world him voting for me and calling me out as his top list of suspects (which I must admit he does every freaking game) means he's with me...you must be confused....I don't have a clue whether he's a townie attempting to sus everyone out....or evil out to get me...but I speak for this...we are not in kahoots...I don't have a clue on him.

I tried to read through the board all over again yesterday, I only got back through page 4 and had to go home. I've not had alot of computer time since I have to log on at work and YES I am a detailed player normally , but with still not having a home computer and work I've been less able to read and then the site going down. I don't like to randomly vote and I like to reread cause yes I miss things sometimes.

I am reading and making my notes which I will post today.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 29, 2008, 03:33:30 PM
I'm finding myself agreeing with some of the points made about bluestars. She clearly hadn't been reading the posts properly in this game to accuse people as steveryals pointed out, and i find it especially careless not to have read the rules at least, because of the uniqueness of the game. But then, your main focus as an evil person would be ensuring that no-one noticed you, rather than trying to analyse the posts and find out who's who.

She seemed to get flustered by steven's accusations and claimed to still be reading and would post back when she was done.. she didn't. She hasn't put forward anything, from what i can find anyway. Someone correct me if i'm wrong?

That reads to me like she's been trying to post the right sort of amount to be deemed active, but not enough to have any real impact, and is annoyed that she's received attention even whilst playing those tactics.

And this tries to pass off a valid vote as being just something that steven does, and everyone else should ignore it. And to be fair, steven has made this quite an easy defense to make with his consistent accusations of mophead for reasons that it's impossible for anyone else to understand. But i still think he's on to something with you.

There's nine pages (i think) now, and as you feel as though you've had something to say, why not say it now? Convince everyone you're not just trying to lay low, use your thoughts to accuse people and help the town. If you don't do that, then i can only come to one conclusion.

FOS bluestars for now.

still not changing my vote though.. i was going to when i saw yorkshire had been dragged out of the background, but the fact that he just posted that he's read it all, and didn't add anything, has made the vote stay a bit longer.

First of all let's be clear about this....I misunderstood the 72 hour bit and admitted it! I read the RULES..and that bit was NOT in the rules! It was in the beginning of the game post and I sort of skimmed past that part.

I totally agree that someone should reread the rules if they misunderstand and I think I was not the only player to admit....as you yourself hippo said you had to reread the rules again. I didn't have that opportunity because I've been at work actually working and don't have a computer at home unless steven and mophead share.

Steven and mophead are always hogging the computer so I didn't get to post as soon as the site came back up...I was reading the site yesterday and made it to the page 5 but didn't post anything before I left for work, as I was not done...I emailed myself some notes...here is a copy of what I had listed so far if you must know and I can show you my email stamp if you must see it.

AfroBoy   
Bluestars      
FootballNewb      
Hammerbro   no lynch   page 1
   FOS Happyaxeman   page 2
   Vote Afroboy   page 3
   VOTE Livebird   page 3
Happy Axeman      
Hippo   FOS Miasg   page 1
   no lynch   page 2
   Vote SVH   page 3
LaserBlue      
Liverbird      
Miasg   says he's good   page 1
MikeBlue   FOS hammerbro   page 3
Mophead   Vote Afroboy   page 3
Sir Hammer   FOS Miasg   page 1
   FOS hammerbro   page 2
   VOTE wesmancity   page 2
Stevenryals   FOS hammerbro   page 3
   FOS mophead   page 3
   FOS Miasg   page 3
   VOTE Hammerbro   page 3
SVH   FOS SVH   page 3
   FOS Wesmancity   page 3
   FOS Hippo   page 3
   FOS hammerbro   page 3
   FOS Miasg   page 3
Trick Pony      
Wesmancity   says he's good   page 2
   FOS Afroboy   page 3
Yorkshire Blue


So I am a detailed player, I've just not had the time to finish going through to see who I want to vote for. I don't like a rushed and careless vote and if anything that should at least prove in itself I am not plotting anything but to get mafia!
   
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 29, 2008, 03:48:14 PM
crap..pushed the wrong button and it posted before I was done....sorry.

Either way, yes I'm looking to sus people out...I just don't normally do it like other by voting here and about...I do it differently....and well if you want my opinion then fine...I'll give it..but sometimes I think it gives too much away too soon by saying how you feel about every single player, because on day one what are my chances of getting everything right...slim probably...but if I get enough of the mafia on my list...I make myself a target.

However at this point, footballnewby would have to be on my list for simply NOT posting...not posting anything isn't helpful and he was called out by Miasg that can have his lady about to give birth and find time to post...lol!

My opinion of him is his nonexistence in playing...can't know anything about him...but not posting is obviously not helping the town figure anything out. He'd have to be tops of my list.

Wes seems he was WAY too eager to tell he was town and then spill he was mason...WHY? not sure if it was because he's new...or thought that it would help him as a mafia player to stay alive....what it does though is puts the town in a horrible position. If we believe him...he's made himself dead basically cause mafia see that as an easy kill and the other mason is left useless....if he's mafia it's sort of stupid because the other mason could just refute his claim...since no one has done that I'm assuming the guy is telling the truth...does anyone else agree with that?

mophead...nuts...co uld probably be evil..but then again...with him I never know...sort of thinking he's got a role...just not sure good or bad.

stevenryals...well he's on me as usual and then moves on...which for now makes me think he just loves to rawl me up....and he is posting his more pick at people side so I'm sort of leaning to townie on him...but we'll see...he may have just practiced at being bad...although if he is mafia...he's a terrible liar and will trip himself up eventually.

miasg...good lord you are like mophead I just never know...I almost had you in my mind as innocent before and was shocked you were evil you are just way too good at evil..lol...but for now nothing too out of the ordinary for me to be honest. I don't judge based on past games...try not to...although I do have to say evertime I see your name I think evil now...sorry...can't help it!

I'll post more in a bit...I really do HAVE to work today...I will post more and since mophead is off to camp...I should have time to post.

although at this point...VOTE FOOTBALLNEWBY maybe that will bring him out of hiding
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 29, 2008, 03:58:12 PM
I'm finding myself agreeing with some of the points made about bluestars. She clearly hadn't been reading the posts properly in this game to accuse people as steveryals pointed out, and i find it especially careless not to have read the rules at least, because of the uniqueness of the game. But then, your main focus as an evil person would be ensuring that no-one noticed you, rather than trying to analyse the posts and find out who's who.

She seemed to get flustered by steven's accusations and claimed to still be reading and would post back when she was done.. she didn't. She hasn't put forward anything, from what i can find anyway. Someone correct me if i'm wrong?

And this tries to pass off a valid vote as being just something that steven does, and everyone else should ignore it. And to be fair, steven has made this quite an easy defense to make with his consistent accusations of mophead for reasons that it's impossible for anyone else to understand. But i still think he's on to something with you.



here's something you dont often do hippo..  not much original thought yourself there..  you say that evil doesnt look hard to sus out mafia because it's not their prime objective..  

usually they will latch on to something that someone has posted that they feel is an easy bandwaggon.. and agree whole hartedly...  which is exactly what you've done here..

I honestly cant remember a time when you've posted the "I agree with _____"  "_____ said"  "______ pointed out" and not turned out to be evil..

FOS Hippo
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 29, 2008, 04:16:35 PM
No, steven. I'd seen you put some decent pressure on bluestars, and then everyone seem to forget about it and it looked to me like bluestars was trying to lie low after it and not give the promised opinions, and i wasn't happy with somebody doing that, so i re-raised it.

I'm comfortable agreeing with things because i'm not striving to cover up everything about myself. I'm not guilty, i have nothing to hide, so i'm posting my thoughts on what everyone's saying openly. The fact that a large majority of people seem to just be "checking in" when they post, rather than actually contributing something worthwhile, doesn't help with my usual digging through what accusations have been made. They all seem pretty weak.

I agree with bluestars' acceptance of wes' claim. If he wasn't a mason, we'd know by now. We don't want to know the other/s, because that'll give the mafia too much information.

Happy Axeman has been very quiet this game. Maybe has an evil role and is trying to avoid conflict with me, because he knows i don't give up and will expose him?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 29, 2008, 04:22:59 PM
In the post where you've emboldened every mention of your name, in order to try and show how i was using your accusations and passing them off as mine, only the "agreeing" and first "steve" actually involves me agreeing with you - the rest are just me talking about the conflict you had with bluestars.. and one of them's even a criticism of you. Talk about trying to misrepresent the evidence.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 29, 2008, 07:03:56 PM
well most peeps have been on & no-one has disagreed with wes so I'm taking it he's what he says he is .... please no-one else role claim yet cause it narrows the field down for the mafia & makes it easier for them to pick out the crucial players we need to keep alive.

Yorkshire .... what can I say about this guy he always signs up but then dosen't post ... I just don't get it , every game his posts get less & less.
I'd put my vote on him but I did this last time & we all know he turned out to be a townie.... well he could just as easily be evil this time :hmmm:

footienewb has not contributed & this really smacks of hiding away ... come on footienewb give us your thoughts ?

I always think that Bluestars looks sus on the first day the way she dithers about but this is her usual style ... having said that I can't remember her being evil yet & like I said about Steveryals last game it happens to everyone sooner or later... so by The law of averages it's got to be her turn sooner or later.

Mophead well what do you say about this one...  .... he's voted yorkshire but gone away without unvoting afroboy... so it looks like yer stuck with that one
Afro :2funny: :lol: :laugh:
steve says mophead is evil but can we trust steve ?

Miasg definatley started off playing a different game than usual I don't know if it makes him evil but it is worth keeping a close eye on.

some of the more experienced players are not giving anything away some of them only just doing enough to keep in touch.... hammer seems to be doing this..... I know he's been busy, but when he played mafia before, his posts were so long I lost the will to live before I got to the end of them. ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 29, 2008, 07:21:21 PM
well most peeps have been on & no-one has disagreed with wes so I'm taking it he's what he says he is .... please no-one else role claim yet cause it narrows the field down for the mafia & makes it easier for them to pick out the crucial players we need to keep alive.

Everyone LASEBLUE is mafia. we all know i said what i said why keep bringing it up?, You Bluestars, and yorkshire IMO are evil and youre the ring leader i smell lt in my water. :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 29, 2008, 07:37:12 PM
hammer seems to be doing this..... when he played mafia before, his posts were so long I lost the will to live before I got to the end of them. ;)

HAHAHA
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 29, 2008, 08:22:41 PM
Everyone LASEBLUE is mafia. we all know i said what i said why keep bringing it up?, You Bluestars, and yorkshire IMO are evil and youre the ring leader i smell lt in my water. :)

Wes...did you share some Red Koolaid with mophead this morning?? You are posting just like him?

You aren't making any sense?

First off laserblue just basically agreed with me that you must be a mason and therefore not someone a townie would want to lynch of course....and then you say...he's mafia???

Um...okay...can you see how that is odd? I don't have any defense for laserblue because I don't know if he's good or bad but you can't come on here and claim he's mafia when he basically defends you and expect us townies to think you aren't a nutjob?

Also, what reason in all crap would I have for defending you if I was mafia? Explain that logic to me? And yes you said it, so what...I didn't roleclaim YOU DID...and therefore if you are going to get mad at someone...why would you not be mad and pointing fingers at those that say your roleclaim could be garbage huh?

Your should explain yourself for sure...that post just makes no sense because you offer us nothing by just point a finger with nothing else.

And if you call me out...come on and tell me why?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on May 29, 2008, 09:39:58 PM
eek. how many posts?! its just taken me over an hour trying to read and absorb anything, and when your a bit shall we say hammered, its a very hard task to do! lol

Sorry about the site being down, strapped for time and not monitoring things was my downfall. that particular problem wont happen again.  ;)

I Still find Miasg very strange, so my vote is sticking on him for now.

Bluestars always plays like this, Ive already mentioned it in this game before other people starting mentioning how she's playing... she sits on the fence and argues with herself and gets no-where when she's good; Every game gaurenteed. this makes me believe she has a good role.

Mike Blue has just seemed to follow my lead and basically repeats my thoughts.

And SVH, he seems to be getting the credit for showing the shit about deaths/nights ratio... erm you will find it was me who pointed it out, but yet again, he simply followed my lead and is now taking the credit for it.

Stevenryals to me is still posting strangley, I cannot rule him out of my thoughts for being an evil role again.

as for wes, He has thrown in a strange curve ball.. I posted a while back that i thought he was part of a team, if he is a mason(probably a possible ring bearer too?) then i think it would be a tragedy for them to show themselves. so Wes is on a bit of safe ground at the mo, as who really wants to lynch a possible mason so early in the game despite how dodgy there role claim is?, and then you have to ask; who wants torole claim this early in the game to contest it?...  :-\

I used to think it was a good idea to lynch the non posters in the early life of mafia games, but now i'm more opposed to the idea...
to lynch Yorkshire Blue yet again for a lack of posts and strange posting style means people have not learnt anything. Suspect him by all means but dont lynch him just yet... if we have a cop role then simply investigate him.

Same as Footynewb, i wouldnt vote him off yet either and he must also be on the cops list of people to investigate. He seems good at the game, and to loose a good aussie time player through circumstances is not right for the first day lynch.

if they have still not participed with any purpose and offered nothing on day 2, then yes i would be willing to vote them. I may not post much on the first day of mafia games, but i do try and share my major thoughts.  ;)


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on May 29, 2008, 09:47:05 PM
Happy Axeman has been very quiet this game. Maybe has an evil role and is trying to avoid conflict with me, because he knows i don't give up and will expose him?
erm dont think so hippo, you see i have nothing to hide.  ;)

If i'm online, then I'm on here.  :D

and if i recall the last game you played,when I explained my reasons in a valid and decent way, then you just couldnt see it and kept going on and on and on...  i commited suicide quoting the gm's role... I was the cop... so yes, I guess you didnt give up and you exposed me!!! lol  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 29, 2008, 09:53:21 PM
Interesting that you've left these players out of your thoughts completely...

AfroBoy
Hammerbro
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Mophead
Sir Hammer
Trick Pony

Could you be showing some preference to whom you wish to place the spotlight on, and who you wish to keep in the shadows...

It's equally funny that hammerbro, hippo, mophead, hammer & TP are in that list, who are very high on my suspicions list at this point..  


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on May 29, 2008, 10:03:20 PM
Interesting that you've left these players out of your thoughts completely...

AfroBoy
Hammerbro
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Mophead
Sir Hammer
Trick Pony

Could you be showing some preference to whom you wish to place the spotlight on, and who you wish to keep in the shadows...

It's equally funny that hammerbro, hippo, mophead, hammer & TP are in that list, who are very high on my suspicions list at this point.. 

just because i have failed to mention them, doesnt mean i have not got them in my thoughts. Why show all your cards all the time? what if I am spot on with something and i get taken out because of it(like most games?)... what use am i then?  ???

AfroBoy - I always think is evil, why keep repeating it everygame?
Hammerbro - If you read my posts and engage your brain, you will know what i think of hammerbro...

Hippo - You can never trust a clever player.
LaserBlue - Unpredictable, have formed no real opinion.
Liverbird - few posts, little said, how can you form any opinion?
Mophead - Usual erratic behaviour, another candite on the cop list.
Sir Hammer - Another clever player you can never 100% trust.
Trick Pony - Dunno, seems to highlight SVH as being a hero, when infact it was me who pointed everything out... team with SVH and MIASG?

there, is that good enough for you?  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 29, 2008, 10:06:16 PM
erm dont think so hippo, you see i have nothing to hide.  ;)

If i'm online, then I'm on here.  :D

and if i recall the last game you played,when I explained my reasons in a valid and decent way, then you just couldnt see it and kept going on and on and on...  i commited suicide quoting the gm's role... I was the cop... so yes, I guess you didnt give up and you exposed me!!! lol  :laugh:

Happened more than once now  ;) But that's exactly what i'm saying, if you're good then i eventually drive you to the point where you reveal/commit suicide, if you're evil, then you won't want to get involved in any such exchange, because your non-revealing/suicide would show that i was right.. if that makes sense.

Interesting that you've left these players out of your thoughts completely...

AfroBoy
Hammerbro
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Mophead
Sir Hammer
Trick Pony

Could you be showing some preference to whom you wish to place the spotlight on, and who you wish to keep in the shadows...

It's equally funny that hammerbro, hippo, mophead, hammer & TP are in that list, who are very high on my suspicions list at this point.. 

This is the second time you've manipulated something about me in a row. He HAS mentioned me. You seem to be trying to create a doubt around me in people's minds, without actually accusing me of anything. Because you know i cause problems for the mafia scum, and want me out of the way?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 29, 2008, 10:21:32 PM
Does anyone else have a suspision that hammerbro is just hammer in disguise :lol: :D

I'm keeping my vote on yorkshire until he comes out and gives a decent post, but there are other people who are high up on my suspision list for not putting pressure on as well but the first post yorkshire made edged him ahead of those for me.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on May 29, 2008, 10:31:10 PM
Isnt Yorkshire in the lead with regards to votes? seems sad to me that we could yet again be on a looser by doing exactly the same thing, I say we, but i was never apart of it in the last one.

this is a strange first day phase, what with the votes being so fragmented. I feel a bit uneasy, as its kind of making it easier for the mafia to manipulate the voting.  :-\
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on May 29, 2008, 10:44:52 PM
infact why hasnt stevenryals asked why Laserblue didnt list all his thought on players? what makes me so different steve? easier to target knowing i blow up like a hand grenade if you catch me at the right time? ???

maybe if we look at the people i suspected more(which then made Steven post in a defensive attitude to try to deflect and put the light on me), we will see the people who Steve actually wanted me to shy away from?

STEVENRYALS, SVH, MIASG, MIKEBLUE ???

Hmmm, dunno to stick or twist on MIASG or Stevenryals... need to see what has happened in Aussie time tomorrow before i cast my final and confirmed vote.


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 29, 2008, 11:22:51 PM
There's a few people whose actions i'm not happy with currently; the first of these is Steve Van Halen..

Everybody read the following sequence of quotes from him, and form your own opinions:

I think Hammerbro is on to a good tactic, lets not lynch anyone unless we are certain. The more townies stay alive the greater the chance of winning.

FOS at yorkshire for either not reading the game rules or encouraging the potential lynch of a townie!!

with the limit on this game I would be inclined to think that the no lynch vote would be avoided by the mafia. They need to get rid of townies in the day as well as in the night to increase their chances of winning.

But I do agree with the Axeman that voting patterns do help pinpoint evil

Axeman I agree with you and I implore the rest of you to see sense.

Surely if I was mafia I would encourage the no lynch as it would mean that I would have a greater chance of being on the winning side?!

Amusing isn't it? There's one major event that happens in the middle of that, and it's the fact that a strong player joined the opposition to the no-lynching and he realised it wouldn't be an easy ride to the next day like he was hoping. He saw the tide changing, jumped ship, and then tried to take the moral highground and credit for the whole decision making process.

But the worst quote of all for me, and i did vote for him at the time for it, was this one..

So who do we put pressure on?

There's two things that are wrong with this:

1) Who the hell is this "we"? If he's referring to townies, then he shouldn't be trusting anybody elses decisions that early, and he wouldn't because he's experienced. So what other group could "we" be referring to?

2) Why's he asking people this at all? Why can't he make decisions for himself? We've already been over the fact that he latched on to the views of hammerbro, then axeman, and here he is trying to do it again. He wants a scapegoat for all of his moves, to cover his tracks.

So in summary..

lets not lynch anyone

Surely if I was mafia I would encourage the no lynch?!

unvote: yorkshire
vote: SVH
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 29, 2008, 11:24:27 PM
the current votes are as follows

AfroBoy    2 Votes
Footballnewb    1 Vote
LaserBlue  1 Vote
Miasg       1 Vote
MikeBlue   1 Vote
SVH   1 Vote
Trick Pony  1 Vote


Yet to Vote  Afro, FootballNewb, Liverbird, LaserBlue, Miasg, MikeBlue, SVH, Trick Pony and YorkshireBlue.

Afro would have no votes if people had bothered to unvote before casting another vote.

Appox 36 hours until the end of Day One which works out to Midday Saturday UK time, 9:00pm in Aus and no idea what timezone you are on in the US sorry. So looks like this vote will go down to the wire.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 30, 2008, 03:41:04 AM
(TCH, Mophead will be out from today through Sunday...not sure what to do about that...he does have a cell phone but no web access.)

I am not in kahoots with stevenryals...I haven't had much access to the two hogs I live with that use all the computer time....to respond to him voting for me...otherwise I would of course defended myself. But how in the world him voting for me and calling me out as his top list of suspects (which I must admit he does every freaking game) means he's with me...you must be confused....I don't have a clue whether he's a townie attempting to sus everyone out....or evil out to get me...but I speak for this...we are not in kahoots...I don't have a clue on him.

I tried to read through the board all over again yesterday, I only got back through page 4 and had to go home. I've not had alot of computer time since I have to log on at work and YES I am a detailed player normally , but with still not having a home computer and work I've been less able to read and then the site going down. I don't like to randomly vote and I like to reread cause yes I miss things sometimes.

I am reading and making my notes which I will post today.

Blue in the past few games mafia have been voteing for each other early in each day to throw the rest of us off thinking they in cahoots, which is why i thought had happened when stevenryals voted for you then changed his vote to me with out any real justification, I still dont accept his reasoning but each to their own. He is just fishing as we all are but though he is in the wrong spot and using the wrong bait, Steve if you guys ever come over to Aus I will be more than happy to show you  :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 30, 2008, 03:57:40 AM
just because i have failed to mention them, doesnt mean i have not got them in my thoughts. Why show all your cards all the time? what if I am spot on with something and i get taken out because of it(like most games?)... what use am i then?  ???

AfroBoy - I always think is evil, why keep repeating it everygame?
Hammerbro - If you read my posts and engage your brain, you will know what i think of hammerbro...

Hippo - You can never trust a clever player.
LaserBlue - Unpredictable, have formed no real opinion.
Liverbird - few posts, little said, how can you form any opinion?
Mophead - Usual erratic behaviour, another candite on the cop list.
Sir Hammer - Another clever player you can never 100% trust.
Trick Pony - Dunno, seems to highlight SVH as being a hero, when infact it was me who pointed everything out... team with SVH and MIASG?

there, is that good enough for you?  ???

OMG defending once again, I quoted SVH as he repeated it at that section of the conversation, I took note of what you had to say but it didnt see so relevant at that time
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 30, 2008, 04:04:01 AM
Quote
Steve if you guys ever come over to Aus I will be more than happy to show you 
  ???

Yes you could get to see in person the miasg and Trick Pony arguements :bleh:

Though i must say how much quieter it is now at work with miasg away being the dutiful father  ;)
 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on May 30, 2008, 05:27:03 AM
Blue in the past few games mafia have been voteing for each other early in each day to throw the rest of us off thinking they in cahoots, which is why i thought had happened when stevenryals voted for you then changed his vote to me with out any real justification, I still dont accept his reasoning but each to their own. He is just fishing as we all are but though he is in the wrong spot and using the wrong bait, Steve if you guys ever come over to Aus I will be more than happy to show you  :)

ok to clear this up as TCH said he couldnt understand what I was on about. Earlier on Stevenryals voted Bluestars then unvoted her to vote me, he didnt justify why he unvoted her and his reasoning for voting me was weak, now the "FISHING" comments TCH are in relation to stevenryals fishing for a reaction as everyone knows that I will happily provide one to make the game more exciting, otherwise I would be bored and would probably never play again.  Anyway I said that he is looking in the wrong spot and that his bait as in "targeting me for a reaction" wont work as I have nothing to hide as I am townie, though I will not post my role as wes has done as that will wreck the game, as everyone would then be asking "whats your role I have posted mine like the last game".  So if there is a doctor out there please save either myself or wes as we have basically roleclaimed and are obviously the biggest townie targets to date.

So from my list of suspects Stevenryals is at the top so VOTE:Stevenryals

Also im off for the weekend up the coast hoping for a bit of sunshine but its ment to rain for the next 3 days  :( so will not be around to defend myself though I have already done enough of that as pointed out by Stevenryals, though I still believe a townie wouldnt vote the way that you have steve especially for just defending myself and if you read what i said I was responding to about 2-3 pages one after the other where people have asked for a response since the site was unavailable, a townie would at least consider that possiblity as we know how important our numbers are near the end of game.

Anyway im off best of luck to the townies out there and hopefully we lynch a mafia on day one for a change  :)

Also to the quiet players if you cant post alot then post comments on each player so people can become more involved and MIASG you will always be  >:D in my mind. And congratz on the new addition, though Benny will be a BUlldogs supporter for sure  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 30, 2008, 10:04:28 AM
Unvote: Afroboy
When people start picking at peoples wording it means there desperate. I'm gonna keep an eye on TP for a bit.

TCH I think I only have one vote cos here hammerbro unvotes and I can't see another vote
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Quig on May 30, 2008, 10:46:07 AM
Yeah i unvote: afroboy. Will do it again just to make sure.

I'm gonna have to defend svh from Hippo here. Mainly because if you go back and read the quotes he has picked out, there in the middle of whole paragraphs. Hippos manipulating things and taking them out of context. On the other hand, svh did state no lynch would be mafia shortly after voting no lynch himself. But in the same post he does also explain why he has changed his mind. I think Hippo is trying to overstate svh's change of opinion. I think i'm gonna have to Vote: Hippo]/b] for now.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 30, 2008, 11:35:22 AM
I'm gonna have to defend svh from Hippo here.

First genuine link between two players?

if you go back and read the quotes he has picked out, there in the middle of whole paragraphs. Hippos manipulating things and taking them out of context.

They're not out of context at all, they're just trimmed down versions of what each paragraph was about. I had to do this so my point didn't get lost in a post that was long enough as it is, without trebling it by quoting whole paragraphs. I was pointing out the inconsistencies in what he was saying and doing, i didn't fabricate them, they all happened, and in the order that i have them down.

Voting for me based on me trying to put together FACTS about people, in order to try and locate the mafia scum, is a bit bizarre is not? Or is it an admission? I don't know.

Alright, i might be wrong, what i've said about him isn't cast iron proof because we won't have any of that on day one, but find me a vote from somebody else which is based on anything with more substance than mine, and i'll change it to them. But there isn't one is there?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on May 30, 2008, 12:01:28 PM
why are people role claiming this is just giving the mafia easy targets
trick pony cant defend himself now but hes just done the you vote me i vote you with no reason for voting steven
my main suspects are
trick pony did alot of small posts in a row so it looks like hes posted alot and vote for steven looks sus
bluestars always looks sus to me early on but probably just the way bluestars starts
mophead i know hes young but alot of is post just look suspicious and voted for me with no reason
people are complaining i dont post i dont think i have ever posted alot in the first day and i havent got a job where im on a computer
ihave done roughly a post a day apart from monday which was a bank holiday
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 30, 2008, 12:02:03 PM
ok, there are 24 hours left in day one, the votes at the moment are

AfroBoy    1 Votes
Footballnewb    1 Vote
Hippo       1 Vote
LaserBlue  1 Vote
Miasg       1 Vote
MikeBlue   1 Vote
Stevenryals 1 Vote
SVH   1 Vote
Trick Pony  1 Vote



The next 24 hours look to be very interesting !!

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on May 30, 2008, 12:16:05 PM
If thats the first link between two players then I'm going to have to add another. I'm gonna defend Hippo from Hammerbro, but at this stage I not concerned about either of them.
Hippo likes to delve into posts, and you need to trim out some of the longer posts because otherwise some people wont read them.
Hammerbro came up with a reasonable idea, and got strongly attacked for it like I did in the Kingmaker game. I'm not happy that this deadline is gonna make us lynch someone on possibly only 2 votes so we need to think strongly who we want to go since its extremely possible that the mafia has some votes on themselves right now, and will look to shift once they realise that anyone with 1 or 2 votes on them right now is in danger of going. To avoid contradicting myself therefore I am going to keep my vote put for now, but will give it some thought later. The next vote has danger of being the bandwagon that lynch's someone.....oh and no one else roleclaim because all that the roleclaim so far has done is given the mafia an easy target tonight, but its given a mafia a get out of jail card later.

AfroBoy - been fairly active, seems to be playing similar to past games...
Bluestars  -  enjoying the view from the commentators box
FootballNewb - gone quiet here hasnt he..
Hammerbro - since the pressure of the first couple real days.. he's gone quiet as well..
Happy Axeman - probably broke now that he's had to pay for the site bandwidth.. lol..   most likely evil
Hippo - less active than he was when he was the leader of the town.. leads me to believe he's either nothing or evil..
LaserBlue - popping on a bit more than usual..  somewhat suspicious
Liverbird - new, and playing like she's new..  cant tell anything about her yet..
Miasg - has avoided confrontation for the most part, which is suspcious because that's his trademark..
MikeBlue - not sure about this guy... will read back again later after work settles down a bit..
Mophead - he lives with me.. and he just acts funny about the game when he's evil.. i know it's not supposed to effect my opinion.. but i see him everyday, how can I not let it effect my judgement..  and it's extremely fun to wind him up..  :)
Sir Hammer - just got back?  maybe so.. but possibly squeezing all the life out of this excuse now.. 
SVH - playing a bit different, but i think he's the only united supporter in this game. so lynch him now!! :)
Trick Pony - havent heard too much from him .. he's stayed away from MIASG for a good bit of the game, which makes me think they may be on the same team.. one of the two may be a good target for lynching today..
Wesmancity - cant decide on wes..  he bottled it bad last game, so maybe we should wait for him to slip up and just say what he is accidently  lol
Yorkshire Blue - 1 post.??  it's hard to justify this activity in a game that's got a 72 hr time limit on day one..  but he could be town.. so it's really difficult to decide weather to lynch him or not.. #'s are important in this game, because all we need is one little wee-man left...

This is a post from Stevenryals summing up everyone in his opinion. If SR turns out mafia, then based on this I would put Liverbird and Afroboy as possible scum.

And contratulations to Miasg for becoming a dad.,,, :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 30, 2008, 12:36:08 PM
stevenryals...well he's on me as usual
did anyone else snigger? or is it just me having a childish giggle  :bigwink:

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 30, 2008, 12:42:58 PM
I used to think it was a good idea to lynch the non posters in the early life of mafia games, but now i'm more opposed to the idea...
to lynch Yorkshire Blue yet again for a lack of posts and strange posting style means people have not learnt anything. Suspect him by all means but dont lynch him just yet... if we have a cop role then simply investigate him.

Same as Footynewb, i wouldnt vote him off yet either and he must also be on the cops list of people to investigate. He seems good at the game, and to loose a good aussie time player through circumstances is not right for the first day lynch.

if they have still not participed with any purpose and offered nothing on day 2, then yes i would be willing to vote them. I may not post much on the first day of mafia games, but i do try and share my major thoughts.  ;)

I see your point but if they are the mafia godfather they'll come up innocent anyway  so either way doing nothing gets you a free pass to round 2 .. no wonder your pretty quiet (and you saud so last game) day 1.  I don't think SVH was getting "all the credit" so why does that cut you so bad?   
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 30, 2008, 12:47:16 PM
  ???

Yes you could get to see in person the miasg and Trick Pony arguements :bleh:

Though i must say how much quieter it is now at work with miasg away being the dutiful father  ;)
 

surely I'm missed  :-*
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 30, 2008, 12:52:11 PM
did anyone else snigger? or is it just me having a childish giggle  :bigwink:



I called her when I read it  lol   hehehehe
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 30, 2008, 01:06:01 PM
just called ?  and no mophead until sunday ?

actually this shitted me last game and it's happening again - I know people have lives but a lot seem to go missing just before the day ends so you may not vote for them since they can't respond. 
Liverbird are you still playing or did we upset you ?  your very very quiet.  Then again so is mikeblue.

Miasg definatley started off playing a different game than usual I don't know if it makes him evil but it is worth keeping a close eye on.
  lol I was evil the last 2 games - take the hint - different role different strategy  ::)  mafia already know I'm not on their side so I'm in their sights at night no matter what I claim.  The strangest thing for me was TP virtually ignoring me. 

I know he's another workmate but he's just non existant so far so to me that as suss as anyone else .. I'm going to VOTE FOOTYNEWB becuase even if he gets a free pass to day 2 we are still starting at 0 with him and I'd prefer to have the pressure on him to give us a better handle.  At the end of the day this is a game and I prefer to have everyone playing.  If a good guy goes the only positive is it also helps us narrow the evil list.

One thing that's on the back of my mind is that the ring bearer might be very very quiet as to not get involved in anything - and that's scares me a little considering my vote.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on May 30, 2008, 01:10:12 PM
First genuine link between two players?

They're not out of context at all, they're just trimmed down versions of what each paragraph was about. I had to do this so my point didn't get lost in a post that was long enough as it is, without trebling it by quoting whole paragraphs. I was pointing out the inconsistencies in what he was saying and doing, i didn't fabricate them, they all happened, and in the order that i have them down.

Voting for me based on me trying to put together FACTS about people, in order to try and locate the mafia scum, is a bit bizarre is not? Or is it an admission? I don't know.

Alright, i might be wrong, what i've said about him isn't cast iron proof because we won't have any of that on day one, but find me a vote from somebody else which is based on anything with more substance than mine, and i'll change it to them. But there isn't one is there?


The simple fact is you are wrong. Yes my posts by themselves lookl like I may be just agreeing but if you read the posts around them you will simply see that they are a part of a debate amongst several players. The game had only just started and the rules were starting to sink in. A few players decided that staying alive for 7 days is paramount so we should vote no lynch, at first glance this seemed like a good idea so I agreed. Axeman came on with his comments which made me think about it and dissect it a little closer so I broke it down mathematically to see if the town could actually survive the 7 days by not voting and you all know now what my answer was.

Quite simply I didnt jump ship, I just changed my mind. Axeman convinced me and I broke it down mathematically so hes right, he should take the credit. He put the idea in my head in the first place.

I never gave a no vote lynch but I gave it thought.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 30, 2008, 01:17:51 PM
for those thinking what has footynewb contributed so far ..
Something tells me this is going to be a very fast paced game...
And hopefully we (the aussies) don't wake up to 10 pages of stuff to read through again :P

MIASG is always suss no matter what... but I doubt he is lucky enough to get the role of Serial Killer again...
I actually think he may be good this time round...
  page 1 3rd player post in


that's it folks .. by the way how can it be a fast paced game if your not posting mate  ???  TCH and TP work with you so if your not around surely you would have told them.  I also see your last activity was a day after that post so your not even worrying about what happens since your sure your mafia mates will bail you out.  I'm sitting back and watching with anticipation  8)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on May 30, 2008, 02:02:04 PM
I used to think it was a good idea to lynch the non posters in the early life of mafia games, but now i'm more opposed to the idea...
to lynch Yorkshire Blue yet again for a lack of posts and strange posting style means people have not learnt anything. Suspect him by all means but dont lynch him just yet... if we have a cop role then simply investigate him.

Same as Footynewb, i wouldnt vote him off yet either and he must also be on the cops list of people to investigate. He seems good at the game, and to loose a good aussie time player through circumstances is not right for the first day lynch.


This is a post from Axeman. I have a theory that people who talk about the cop, and try to direct him what to do often have something to hide. We don't know if there is even a cop, and even if so then they should follow their own judgement.

Footynewb needs to get online and defend himself or it looks like hes gonna get swept away, as I dont think many people are ready to change their minds.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on May 30, 2008, 02:22:11 PM
OK.. i have to be quick.. somebody up here knocked down about 1/2 of the kennedy space center's outside communications...  :/


tp:  tit for tat vote.. if that's all you've got.. very poor...

hammer:  good point on the cop with axeman

heading to Los angeles at noon today.. will be back sunday..

i'll try my best to finish this shit up here at work as quick as possible so i can get back on before I leave..  in fact.. i'll definately make it back to ensure i have my vote where i want it..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 30, 2008, 03:44:23 PM
I used to think it was a good idea to lynch the non posters in the early life of mafia games, but now i'm more opposed to the idea...
to lynch Yorkshire Blue yet again for a lack of posts and strange posting style means people have not learnt anything. Suspect him by all means but dont lynch him just yet... if we have a cop role then simply investigate him.

Same as Footynewb, i wouldnt vote him off yet either and he must also be on the cops list of people to investigate. He seems good at the game, and to loose a good aussie time player through circumstances is not right for the first day lynch.


This is a post from Axeman. I have a theory that people who talk about the cop, and try to direct him what to do often have something to hide. We don't know if there is even a cop, and even if so then they should follow their own judgement.

Footynewb needs to get online and defend himself or it looks like hes gonna get swept away, as I dont think many people are ready to change their minds.

Hammer, I understand where Axeman is coming from with voting a non-poster it is kind of in theory like a no-lynch...we get no real information from it...and at the same time that is what is sooooo frustrating about someone that knows this game has been started since what...Monday? and it is now Friday and only one post?????

I actually think his chances of being a townie have to be slim simply basing it off of his last role...which I probably should not do...but he was townie and involved...not heavily...but more than one post in five days?

I mean how can we not be suspicious...we have nothing to go on but his past behavior in ONE game...and in it he was at least remotely active.

I do NOT want to loose a townie...this happened to me before voting for a townie because they never posted and never even had the time to defend themselves...even though I voted and gave them two full days to respond...it's actually quite frustrating I feel it puts the townies to a disadvantage.

It is day one and lots of weird stuff going back and forth, I still think Wes smells of something...but I can't figure out in my mind why...so for now I'm leaving him alone.

I am actually seeing yorkshire blue as quite active for him! so I don't see anyone really voting for him because he's not posting...which Axeman defending him a bit seems odd...but for now....I'm not sure I think it's a mafia match up...but Axeman may know something I don't and I'll leave that alone for now....just not sure.

SVH, I think defending him is not necessary...he's able to handle himself...although I kind of don't see the arguement you are making hippo. I agree in this game it is important to see who is lining up with whom....however I thought SVH quite simply was convinced by Axeman and gave a good explanation for agreeing for him...he gave math..and well for now I can't really see that as evidence he's mafia....I am not saying I'm sold that he and Axeman aren't working together...but what you came up with well....appears a bit...strained in making a clear cut case...but kuddos for someone working to pick things apart.

Stevenryals....hhhm mm....yes I said he was on me again...GAH! You perves...lol! I'm always careful to analyize he and mophead cause we live together...but I'm thinking he is townie because I see him fishing but not going after folks directly and all over the place like when he was godfather...he's a smart one though...so I keep my eye on him...but I kind of think he's making a few good points...and that's all I want to say at this point...not exactly sure what I think.

Afroboy....hmm...he's a smart one also...hard to pinpoint...I just KNEW he was evil last game...I think he might be this game as well, but nothing really to go on except he has made a few jokes and so forth not game related...I don't see anything really standing out at this point.

Hippo...smart player you and Axeman always starts the never trust the smart player...I have to say...thinking about things and how you've pieced together a few things and appear almost zen like calm...you make me nervous...kind of really think you might not be good this time around. You are a very smart player so you could be just sussing people out...but I can't help but get the sense you are really working some kind of devious master plan....just my hunch...not sold on my own thought on you yet so for now...going to just watch.

laserblue...not said too much...but you are like me sharing the computer so I usually see you post about this much. You also don't give away alot but nothing really catching my attention.

sir hammer...another really smart player this game....feel you just might have a powerful role...not sure if it's evil or town...but for now..going to let the game play out and see what I think...although you are quieter than normal it appears and thankfully you spoke up today...otherwise I was getting nervous that you had to be a really bad guy...cause you are normally mr. investigator.

hammerbro....it is my first game with him...and he seems to have come in strong with the no-lynch issue...at the time it appears to me it was a townie point of view and could help the town...but then the arguement went another way...I am not totally sure how I feel at this point...I think some would see the no-lynch as a mafia idea...I can't be certain but his idea as he presented it didn't sound mafia to me...not sure how I think but at this point...see nothing straight away that convinces me either way on him.

mikeblue...VERY absent of late...he's normally very active...I think he needs to get in early and not this last minute deal...makes me suspicious to be honest.

Liverbird...new player or not...need to comment now really not good to be so quiet if you are townie because number one it doesn't help the town get to know you and have a chance to figure out whether you are with us or not...and number two makes it confusing because if you are townie and not helping us find mafia...then we are left to wonder if you are town and not a quiet new mafia player....know what I mean...it's time to bail the new kid card and get active...a free pass is for no one in this game....even newbies...

Miasg....congrats on the new kiddo...and you appear quite chipper this game...very unlike you so I sort of lean to thinking you are town...could be the new dad glow...not sure...but for now don't see much.

trick pony....hhhmmm...yo u get me thinking as well...tit for tat voting is never fun or really good...normally folks will call you out on that pretty heavy...you are a new player and you do seem to have that kind of voting style...BUT...I'd like to see you more active in the game...and make sure you focus on the entire game...make sure if you are voting for someone it's not just because they voted for you...defend yourself and at least give the other person a chance to make up their mind...sometimes a vote is simply to stir you up...but I don't have too much to think on you now...holding my opinion for now.

I think I listed everyone...except of course the person I've voted for Footballnewby....UG H! I voted for him yesterday to see if he'd come on....and say something...ANYTHIN G! He's said nothing? Why should I change my vote...we have NOTHING to go on at all with him except to see he doesn't care to post anything since what...Monday. Sorry if you are townie...not helping us out much we are on about 12 pages now and one post? Not good enough....I don't like voting for someone that will not respond afterwards or do anthing to help the town out. It puts me in a terrible position as a townie...do I vote for someone that is on here playing the game and attempting to participate....or take my chances not voting for anyone and let mafia most likely bandwaggon someone off at the last minute...or take my chances that footballnewby is mafia and isn't bothered to participate because he knows he's safe??? I just don't know..I will be SOOO mad if another game a townie just stops playing and we vote them off and half of us that vote are townies as well and get distracted by looking at who voted for him and slowly kill ourselves off....I'm debating not voting at all...but that is never good...makes me feel like I'm not really playing the game but sliding by and you get called out for it.

I have to say I see no real reason to take my vote off Footballnewby unless anyone can add something to my thinking to change my mind or if He will actually care to log back in....has TCH PM'd him to see if he's even playing the game anymore?

Is he just not at work? Is it possible he's got a reason for being absent? I'd remove my vote right away if anyone had any information to offer for his absence that is valid?

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on May 30, 2008, 03:53:26 PM
We are leaving out for LA today....will be back on Saturday night...will try to get back on here before day ends to see if footballnewby responds...otherwis e my vote will stand.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 30, 2008, 03:56:24 PM
while i work with Footynewb too, he does not have net access at work unlike the rest of us, but does have a pc at home, i warned him that his lack of posting could be bad for him but it's up to him to explain his lack of posting not me.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 30, 2008, 05:34:16 PM
Iv'e been reading through the posts & mikeblue is now standing out to me as very suspect .... please take time to look back it will take you quite a few pages to find his last post & when he did post it was nothing to do with the game really.... he managed to spin nothing out to 3 posts....  & he has not really put pressure on anyone. he usually has something mad or crazy to say  but nothing....... he seems to be sailing through without trying to draw attention to himself.
footienewb were are you?..... why have you gone missing?... are you hiding? .... why no posts ?.... please tell us & while your at it tell us your thoughts on the game?
FOS Mikeblue, footie newb
& also yorkshireblue ... I've given up on trying to get the guy to participate.

 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 30, 2008, 06:18:33 PM
Iv'e been reading through the posts & mikeblue is now standing out to me as very suspect .... please take time to look back it will take you quite a few pages to find his last post & when he did post it was nothing to do with the game really.... he managed to spin nothing out to 3 posts....  & he has not really put pressure on anyone. he usually has something mad or crazy to say  but nothing....... he seems to be sailing through without trying to draw attention to himself.
footienewb were are you?..... why have you gone missing?... are you hiding? .... why no posts ?.... please tell us & while your at it tell us your thoughts on the game?
FOS Mikeblue, footie newb
& also yorkshireblue ... I've given up on trying to get the guy to participate.

 

I was out golfing and drinking all day yesterday which I did tell everyone and I have been busy at work today and it has taken me the best part of an hour to read up on everything actually Laserblue.

As everyone knows there isn't much to go on day 1. Either someone is unbelievably stupid and puts their foot in or its just a vaguely educated guess. The votes are very widespread at the moment so will be interesting to see what happens as the mafia will be wanting to start a bandwagon soon as there is a good chance that a tie would result in a random draw and they may well lose one of thir own.

One thing I have noticed in this game which has been different from previous games is that the people who have not been posting like Footynewb are normally jumped on by the mafia and the talk normally goes along the lines of "well he ain't posting so we may as well lynch him as he is no use anyway if he ain't posting" this really has not happened this game and only Bluestars I think at the moment has a vote on for Footynewb and normally mafia would be jumping on this chance for an easy lynch and saying yeah well he ain't posting so lets lynch him. Its an easy excuse to vote someone. However this game this doesn't seem to have happened so I'm wondering whether he could actually be mafia as this would explain why people are not going after him. Its just a thought and I'm not for one second saying he is definatly mafia. But it is definatly worth taking note of as in my only other two games this particular situation has been played out differently. The last 2 times that person had turned out to be town and I would hate to make the same mistake 3 times in a row I mean 2 times is bad enough. So I am still reluctant to vote Footynewb for exactly this reason as we have lost town in the past for lynching for a lack of posting.

To be honest I can't see any real evidence to vote anyone at the moment as is usualy the case in day 1 so I'm going to go back through and see if I can find something to sway my decision to vote for somebody as time is running short to cast a vote.

Like I said though the most information may be gained by seeing who starts changing votes and who tries to make some kind of justification to begina bandwagon cause its looking like 3 maybe a tie of 2 votes could get someone lynched at this rate. Also it would not suprise me if there are 3 people tied or something and they end up all being town and the mafia play it clever to split up their votes to not cause as much suspicion but this could be risky for them and back fire if there was much last minute activity.

A very interesting first day and different from our previous 2 games. I am going to keep my eyes peeled for suspicious behaviour between now and tommorrows deadline for sure!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on May 30, 2008, 07:06:15 PM
Wellllllllll im sure as hell glad thats over (reading all of those damn pages)
Not really the best thing to be doing at almost 4am smashed off my face haha... but anywaysssss
Sorry for having a life... It may be a hard concept for you all OLD folks to grasp... What with all your wives. gfs and kids  :bleh: haha

I'm not going to make a long gastly post as it would just be skimmed, misunderstood, misquoted and just pointless all together...

Voting for someone because they havent posted much is the stupidest thing you could ever do.... especially when there are people like TrickPony who come on and make several consecutive posts all quoting other people but replying with absolutely no substance at all...
Not one single post of his has had any substantiative evidence in it at all... its all just been random crap... trying to make it look like hes contributing... when really he just has a case of verbal diarrhoea.

VOTE TickPony for speaking absolute shite and contributing nothing but an invitation to host one of the lovely players here in Australia and to teach him how to fish  ??? haha
oh and btw TP... 1 Pound is approx AU$2.1
not that hard to work out really ;)

In closing... I am town... Just ask me...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on May 30, 2008, 07:12:10 PM

It is day one and lots of weird stuff going back and forth, I still think Wes smells of something...but I can't figure out in my mind why...so for now I'm leaving him alone.


ha ha ha..........Ive just picked myself of the floor  :laugh:, my missus just asked me what im laughing at. lol
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 30, 2008, 08:59:35 PM
Right I am going to vote Steveryals

My reason being that I think he is playing similar to the last game and we know how evil he was in that game. I may well be wrong but have to vote someone.

I just think he has not gone after anyone like he did in my first game with him in it with the same conviction and pressure. When he was town he was accusing everyone and really giving everyone a hard time. I just see him laying a little bit low this time round and not really wanting to piss anyone off so to keep himself out of the firing line.

First day is way too tough and a little bit boring really as you have nothing to go on. Role on day 2!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 30, 2008, 09:06:50 PM
Ooops

VOTE STEVENRYALS
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Mikeblue on May 30, 2008, 09:13:37 PM
I see Liverbird is logged on!!!

Any chance of some kind of contribution???

If you don't post again you are going on my suspicion list for complete lack of posts and coming on to read and not contributing. If you are town any chance of some help finding the evil and contributing cause at the minute you look like you are just trying to stay un-noticed and carry out your evil deeds!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on May 30, 2008, 09:28:36 PM
I see Liverbird is logged on!!!

Any chance of some kind of contribution???

If you don't post again you are going on my suspicion list for complete lack of posts and coming on to read and not contributing. If you are town any chance of some help finding the evil and contributing cause at the minute you look like you are just trying to stay un-noticed and carry out your evil deeds!!!

Yeah Yeah ok, Sorry ive not been on but the site has been blocked at my work so cant access it through the day, and ive been out most nights because its TT week in IOM  .. Im still trying to read through all the pages yet to do a bit of catching up and research on everyone.

So, when i was reading through my FOS went for Wesmancity as i think he is a little dodgey for some reason.. I dont understand why he would say his role so early in the game, I know im only new and still not very sure but i thought it wasnt a good idea to role claim...  I just think he could just be saying he's Mason so hide his true evil role .. hmmm But im going to do some more research but for now my vote is for wesmancity
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 30, 2008, 11:40:09 PM
down to approx 12 hours, votes as following

ok, there are 24 hours left in day one, the votes at the moment are

Footballnewb   2 Votes
Stevenryals 2 Votes
Trick Pony  2 Votes
AfroBoy    1 Votes
Hippo       1 Vote
LaserBlue  1 Vote
Miasg       1 Vote
MikeBlue   1 Vote
SVH   1 Vote
wesmancity 1 Vote



Yet to vote, AfroBoy, LaserBlue, SVH and Yorkshire

No clear favourite yet

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on May 31, 2008, 12:14:12 AM
As everyone knows there isn't much to go on day 1. Either someone is unbelievably stupid and puts their foot in or its just a vaguely educated guess. The votes are very widespread at the moment so will be interesting to see what happens as the mafia will be wanting to start a bandwagon soon as there is a good chance that a tie would result in a random draw and they may well lose one of thir own.

One thing I have noticed in this game which has been different from previous games is that the people who have not been posting like Footynewb are normally jumped on by the mafia and the talk normally goes along the lines of "well he ain't posting so we may as well lynch him as he is no use anyway if he ain't posting" this really has not happened this game and only Bluestars I think at the moment has a vote on for Footynewb and normally mafia would be jumping on this chance for an easy lynch and saying yeah well he ain't posting so lets lynch him. Its an easy excuse to vote someone. However this game this doesn't seem to have happened so I'm wondering whether he could actually be mafia as this would explain why people are not going after him. Its just a thought and I'm not for one second saying he is definatly mafia. But it is definatly worth taking note of as in my only other two games this particular situation has been played out differently. The last 2 times that person had turned out to be town and I would hate to make the same mistake 3 times in a row I mean 2 times is bad enough. So I am still reluctant to vote Footynewb for exactly this reason as we have lost town in the past for lynching for a lack of posting.

To be honest I can't see any real evidence to vote anyone at the moment as is usualy the case in day 1 so I'm going to go back through and see if I can find something to sway my decision to vote for somebody as time is running short to cast a vote.

Like I said though the most information may be gained by seeing who starts changing votes and who tries to make some kind of justification to begina bandwagon cause its looking like 3 maybe a tie of 2 votes could get someone lynched at this rate. Also it would not suprise me if there are 3 people tied or something and they end up all being town and the mafia play it clever to split up their votes to not cause as much suspicion but this could be risky for them and back fire if there was much last minute activity.

A very interesting first day and different from our previous 2 games. I am going to keep my eyes peeled for suspicious behaviour between now and tommorrows deadline for sure!!!

things I find interesting about this .. only 1 page back I vote for Footynewb and explain why in a few posts and Bluestars reaffirms her concerns with him on this page - how could you not see 2 had voted for him ?  I think your in cahoots with Footynewb and your trying to stop a bandwagon on him. 

Right I am going to vote Steveryals

My reason being that I think he is playing similar to the last game and we know how evil he was in that game. I may well be wrong but have to vote someone.
I just think he has not gone after anyone like he did in my first game with him in it with the same conviction and pressure. When he was town he was accusing everyone and really giving everyone a hard time. I just see him laying a little bit low this time round and not really wanting to piss anyone off so to keep himself out of the firing line.

First day is way too tough and a little bit boring really as you have nothing to go on. Role on day 2!
  actually I think Steven had gone off at alot of people early on but he's been a bit erratic lately, but your statement on having to vote has me confused .. mafia may not vote if townies look like going .. mafia will vote to protect there mates .. townies will vote to hopefully lynch mafia .. for me your now just hanging on to townie but FOS MIKEBLUE

Footynewb I didn't really think your posts saves you from my vote .. no explanation really as to your absense - vote for Trick Pony for no real substance ( :clap: well really he's never said anything worthwhile in any post the :clown: ) , someone who won't be able to make a comeback since he's away, and give no other insight into the game 12 pages in.    I just don't see you helping the town. 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on May 31, 2008, 12:37:14 AM
things I find interesting about this .. only 1 page back I vote for Footynewb and explain why in a few posts and Bluestars reaffirms her concerns with him on this page - how could you not see 2 had voted for him ?  I think your in cahoots with Footynewb and your trying to stop a bandwagon on him. 
  actually I think Steven had gone off at alot of people early on but he's been a bit erratic lately, but your statement on having to vote has me confused .. mafia may not vote if townies look like going .. mafia will vote to protect there mates .. townies will vote to hopefully lynch mafia .. for me your now just hanging on to townie but FOS MIKEBLUE

Footynewb I didn't really think your posts saves you from my vote .. no explanation really as to your absense - vote for Trick Pony for no real substance ( :clap: well really he's never said anything worthwhile in any post the :clown: ) , someone who won't be able to make a comeback since he's away, and give no other insight into the game 12 pages in.    I just don't see you helping the town. 

You clearly cant be bothered mounting a case against someone who actually looks suspicious so you take the easy way out and go after someone who hasnt had the time to be on here and be as active as theyd like... Pretty pathetic if you ask me...
And if it has come to a point where you cant vote for someone because they are going to be away and cant defend themselves then its going to be a pretty sad state of affairs... everyone will start saying they are going away so they dont get voted for...
I would have voted for TP whether or not he was away this weekend... Even if he was here, i know my vote would be safe because nothing but mindless dribble comes from his posts... as you should know by now... see as you are usually on the receiving end of it  :bleh:

As for giving an insight... There was just way too much info to process in one go... at that time of morning... in the state i was... haha....
so i acted on what i saw as the most useless display of "getting involved" as it stood out to me the most at that point in time...

I'm starting to get sus on you though... not soley because you keep trying to draw attention away from yourself and direct it at me for no other reason than i havent been as active as others... but also because its quite obvious you are not trying to actually search for who is evil and who isnt... you're simply just picking an easy target and trying to make something out of nothing...
But I also could just put this down to you being lazy  :bleh:
Something tells me you are town this game... you definitely are playing a very different game this time round...

My vote for TP stands... as at this point in time the people I am suspicious on have actually had some decent input into the game... there posts actually have some substance... So I am interested to see how they develop as the game goes on...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on May 31, 2008, 12:38:34 AM
PS... Congrats on the new bub... Is it your turn to breast feed this time ??  O0 :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 31, 2008, 08:32:05 AM
3 and a half hours to go.

I'm off out till after the deadline, but any posts past the deadline will not be counted. So the vote count is as above. I'll post the lynching as soon as i get back

 O0
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 31, 2008, 09:24:27 AM
Yet to vote, AfroBoy, LaserBlue, SVH and Yorkshire

We should lynch one of these people.

With these timed games, it's much easier for the mafia to just sit back and not get noticed. They don't have to make any moves, because they know that even without their votes, the day will end. Voting for the wrong person is used against you later on, so why bother? Why not just sit back and wait for it to end, and do your work at night?

I'm not saying that all of these 4 will be mafia. They probably won't. But i'd almost guarantee that at least one of them will be. So, let's examine the 4.

Yorkshire Blue: It would be a complete guess about him. How do we get a read on him? It's impossible. He needs to post more in the next day or he'll start getting more votes through lack of patience rather than anything else. Suspicious for sitting back, but not the most likely on this list, in my opinion.

Laser Blue: Completely under the radar. Very suspicious, but again, a complete guess is required about him, rather than anything educated.

SVH: I've stated that he has only made moves that other people've made throughout this day. He's made no accusations himself, he's voted for nobody, he's generally done nothing. But as i've tried to point this out once, and failed, i'm not going to waste people's time again.

Afroboy: There is no excuse for him being on this list. He has been active throughout, doing enough to ensure he wasn't getting too many votes, whilst not doing much of anything at all. I'm certain that a townie, who has been as active as he has, would have formed an opinion on somebody by now that they deemed worthy of a vote. He's waiting for the night phase and nothing more.

Further to this, there is literally nothing to use that he's said that could incriminate himself; that's never true of townies. Townies make mistakes trying to work everything out, because they don't know. Mafia make calculated moves, and post a contrived amount, in order to make themselves slip under the radar. And i believe he fits in to the mafia category.

Unvote SVH
Vote Afroboy


This is the updated votecount.. might be easier, with TCH not on til after the deadline, if whenever someone makes/changes a vote, they update the count themselves.

Footballnewb   2 Votes
Stevenryals 2 Votes
Trick Pony  2 Votes
AfroBoy    2 Votes
Hippo       1 Vote
LaserBlue  1 Vote
Miasg       1 Vote
MikeBlue   1 Vote
wesmancity 1 Vote



Yet to vote, AfroBoy, LaserBlue, SVH and Yorkshire
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 31, 2008, 09:36:51 AM
I'll paraphrase because i get the feeling no-one'll read that.

- Yorkshire, Laser, SVH and Afro are all yet to vote.
- The mafia won't want to make any moves on day one, because it'll just be used as evidence later.
- Not all 4 will be mafia, but it's highly likely one of them at least is.

And then here's the bit about afroboy, that made me vote:

There is no excuse for him being on this list. He has been active throughout, doing enough to ensure he wasn't getting too many votes, whilst not doing much of anything at all. I'm certain that a townie, who has been as active as he has, would have formed an opinion on somebody by now that they deemed worthy of a vote. He's waiting for the night phase and nothing more.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 31, 2008, 09:58:03 AM
I think your being a bit previous with your vote hippo the day is not over & there is still time to vote ...
my vote is going on mikeblue for the reasons I stated yesterday .... since then he came on & voted for stevenryals & the excuse he gave was that steve was not putting pressure on peeps... but I think clearly he has & this excuse is bull.

Also hippo afro is at footie training right now but if you look back I think you'll find he voted for yorkshire sometime ago & tommy has missed it off the list.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on May 31, 2008, 10:17:05 AM
Also hippo afro is at footie training right now but if you look back I think you'll find he voted for yorkshire sometime ago & tommy has missed it off the list.

Gah, i presumed it'd all be correct. Ignore the stuff about afro then.

unvote afro
vote SVH


because he's,the next most likely from that list.

I think your being a bit previous with your vote hippo the day is not over & there is still time to vote ...

Well, yes, there's 2 hours. But if i waited until that time had passed before posting it, there'd be no point would there?

my vote is going on mikeblue for the reasons I stated yesterday .... since then he came on & voted for stevenryals & the excuse he gave was that steve was not putting pressure on peeps... but I think clearly he has & this excuse is bull.

that's not gonna count as an official vote..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on May 31, 2008, 10:56:02 AM
sorry i didn't bold it vote mikeblue :blush:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on May 31, 2008, 10:59:50 AM
Okay I vote yorkshire cos he only made one post

I just got back from footy trainin now, it's true I did vote yorkshire near bottom of page 8, here it is so you can see.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on May 31, 2008, 11:54:31 AM
Hmmm... quite a predicament I find myself in... I am locked in at 2 votes with a few people...
2 of who are my prime candidates for being mafia... and 1 of who I have already voted for...
I am suspicious of both of these players for the same reasons... dancing around the facts and just making posts to make it look like they are getting involved...

The 2 people I speak of are TP and Mikeblue...
Laserblue seems to be thinking the same way I am... because the recent post of Mikeblues voting for stevenryals and saying he isnt pressuring anyone is rubbish... Have you not been reading his posts? He's hammered quite a few people... But I guess thats easy to miss when you're doing the "Mafia Skim"  :bleh:

At least when TP voted for steven he did it just because he's a :clown: and has no idea whats going on...
Where as you mr Mikeblue oh evil one... tried to come up with some outrageous excuse to try and pin alot of suspicion on him...

For this... im going to UNVOTE TrickPony
and VOTE Mikeblue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on May 31, 2008, 11:57:56 AM
going back to my last post i made alist of three and trick pony was posting pointless posts making him look like hes posting alot
vote trick pony
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 31, 2008, 01:13:52 PM
Thanks for locking the thread Hammer.

Afro you are correct i did miss the vote for Yorkshire, i missed it as it was in a sentence.

So the final vote count is

MikeBlue         3 Votes
Footballnewb   2 Votes
Stevenryals     2 Votes
Trick Pony       2 Votes
AfroBoy          1 Vote
Hippo             1 Vote
LaserBlue        1 Vote
Miasg             1 Vote
Steve Van Halen 1 Vote
wesmancity     1 Vote
Yorkshire Blue  1 Vote



The only person not to vote is SVH.

I'll post the lynch shortly
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on May 31, 2008, 01:41:47 PM
The fellowship reach the Gates of Moria and are stumped on how to open the gates. Each suggest to Gandalf on how they should open. Soon the fellowship in arguing and Mikeblue is now suspected of hindering the group getting into the mines. Led by Footballnewb, LaserBlue and Sir Hammer they lead the rest of the group to take MikeBlue to the nearest tree and lynch him.

MikeBlue unfortunately turns out to be Strider/Aragorn and the Doctor

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/aragorn.jpg)

You all look at each other shocked, and then out of the lake a creature appears and grabs Frodo, you leap in to attack the creature while Gandalf at long last works out how the open the gate, 'speak friend and enter' which in Elvish is mellon. The gate opens and you all pile through the gate before the creature can attack again. One in and safe you settle down for the night to recover from the devestating loss of MikeBlue and to work out what went wrong.

We are now in the night phase for Day One, we will be down for a max of 48 hours and a Minimum of 24 hours. So those of you with night actions can use them now until we start day 2. If i have not received all the night actions by 48 hours then you lose your chance to use it. If i receive them before 24 hours we wait until 24 hours is reached and then start day 2. Clear as mud  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 02, 2008, 12:02:20 PM
Sleeping fitfully near to where you entered Moria you are awakeed by a terrible screeching coming from the gate. Sauron has sent the Nazgul and they have found you, attracted by the lure of the ring. Hammersbro is first to react, races down with his sword to prevent them coming through the gate. There is a clash of swords but Hammersbro is overpowered and killed.
As they start to come through the gate, Gandalf appears and points his staff at the roof, utters a word and there is a huge cracking as the ceiling falls in a the passage is blocked. The Nazgul screech their frustation at being denied so close to their goal.

Hammerbros body is lost in the rockfall, you morn his loss as he was Faramir and a Townie

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/faramir.jpg)

You race back to your belongings and start to pack up as you need to move through the mines as quickley as possible now. However one person has not got up yet.

"Merry, come on we need to get going"

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/merry.jpg)

Pippin pushes Merry, he doesn't move, he pulls off his blanket and cries out, poor Merry has been killed, a rock has been used to smash the back of his skull.

Merry was Stevenryals and part of the Mason group B so another townie has been killed and a hobbit as well. Pippen is distraught but is scooped up and dragged off. The fellowship needs to move and get through the Mines without any major problems.

So Day Two starts, there are 14 players left

AfroBoy
Bluestars
FootballNewb
Happy Axeman
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Miasg
Mophead
Sir Hammer
SVH
Trick Pony
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue

There are 14 players left so it will require 8 votes to cause a lynch. The time limit is Midday Saturday UK time, if there is no lynching before then.



Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 02, 2008, 12:08:19 PM
what a terrible start to the day .. first the doctor .. then 2 townies including a hobbit ..
mikeblue, hammerbro, and stevenryals gone .. time to go back and look for links ..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 02, 2008, 12:12:40 PM
AfroBoy   
Bluestars      
FootballNewb      
Hammerbro   no lynch   page 1
   FOS Happyaxeman   page 2
   Vote Afroboy   page 3
   VOTE Livebird   page 3
Happy Axeman      
Hippo   FOS Miasg   page 1
   no lynch   page 2
   Vote SVH   page 3
LaserBlue      
Liverbird      
Miasg   says he's good   page 1
MikeBlue   FOS hammerbro   page 3
Mophead   Vote Afroboy   page 3
Sir Hammer   FOS Miasg   page 1
   FOS hammerbro   page 2
   VOTE wesmancity   page 2
Stevenryals   FOS hammerbro   page 3
   FOS mophead   page 3
   FOS Miasg   page 3
   VOTE Hammerbro   page 3
SVH   FOS SVH   page 3
   FOS Wesmancity   page 3
   FOS Hippo   page 3
   FOS hammerbro   page 3
   FOS Miasg   page 3
Trick Pony      
Wesmancity   says he's good   page 2
   FOS Afroboy   page 3
Yorkshire Blue

bluestars do you have an updated list of this ?  (I'm being lazy and you do a thorough job   :-* )
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 02, 2008, 12:22:33 PM
sorry i didn't bold it vote mikeblue :blush:
Hmmm... quite a predicament I find myself in... I am locked in at 2 votes with a few people...
2 of who are my prime candidates for being mafia... and 1 of who I have already voted for...
I am suspicious of both of these players for the same reasons... dancing around the facts and just making posts to make it look like they are getting involved...

The 2 people I speak of are TP and Mikeblue...
Laserblue seems to be thinking the same way I am... because the recent post of Mikeblues voting for stevenryals and saying he isnt pressuring anyone is rubbish... Have you not been reading his posts? He's hammered quite a few people... But I guess thats easy to miss when you're doing the "Mafia Skim"  :bleh:

At least when TP voted for steven he did it just because he's a :clown: and has no idea whats going on...
Where as you mr Mikeblue oh evil one... tried to come up with some outrageous excuse to try and pin alot of suspicion on him...

For this... im going to UNVOTE TrickPony
and VOTE Mikeblue

Look the timing of these votes. Mikeblue only had one vote from SirHammer which was pages ago but right out of the blue towards the end of the game he gets two votes which lead to his lynching. Its right before the deadline and within an hour of each other, looks very dodgy to me. FOS on both unless they can explain this sudden voting surge.

Steveryals being a part of two mason groups makes sense to Wesmancity's claim to be a mason and I will ask his other mason not to step forward. But it means that I now have reason to believe his claim as I didnt yesterday.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on June 02, 2008, 12:42:22 PM
ummm... oops... two suspicions and i chose wrong :(
i still think TP is evil though...

MIASG... you're still good in my books...
but i dont think my views are going to be looked upon too well today lol...

I voted them... cos thats the only time i could get on... just made it in time for the deadline and did it to save my own ass...
if only yorkshire had posted earlier... i wouldnt have had to change my vote...
seems pretty lame right about now...
but maybe someone will see the goodness in me and believe me...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 02, 2008, 12:42:32 PM
SVH did you choose not to vote or just not get one in in time ?

TP is freaking me out.. he's being silly in a game where PEOPLE CAN DIE!!!

UNVOTE BLUESTARSNEYES

VOTE TRICKPONY

people with strong defense mechanisms usually act this way when they're hiding something
tit-for-tat
So from my list of suspects Stevenryals is at the top so VOTE:Stevenryals

Also im off for the weekend up the coast hoping for a bit of sunshine but its ment to rain for the next 3 days  :( so will not be around to defend myself though I have already done enough of that as pointed out by Stevenryals, though I still believe a townie wouldnt vote the way that you have steve especially for just defending myself and if you read what i said I was responding to about 2-3 pages one after the other where people have asked for a response since the site was unavailable, a townie would at least consider that possiblity as we know how important our numbers are near the end of game.

Trick Pony did you have a vandetta on StevenRyals becuase he was onto you?  (mikeblue also voted for him as well  ???)

FOS laserblue, TP, SirHammer, and Footynewb ..

I'm also suss of the late but useless vote

Quote from: laserblue on May 31, 2008, 09:58:03
Also hippo afro is at footie training right now but if you look back I think you'll find he voted for yorkshire sometime ago & tommy has missed it off the list.


Gah, i presumed it'd all be correct. Ignore the stuff about afro then.

unvote afro
vote SVH

because he's,the next most likely from that list.


Quote from: laserblue on May 31, 2008, 09:58:03
I think your being a bit previous with your vote hippo the day is not over & there is still time to vote ...  


Well, yes, there's 2 hours. But if i waited until that time had passed before posting it, there'd be no point would there?


Quote from: laserblue on May 31, 2008, 09:58:03
my vote is going on mikeblue for the reasons I stated yesterday .... since then he came on & voted for stevenryals & the excuse he gave was that steve was not putting pressure on peeps... but I think clearly he has & this excuse is bull.



that's not gonna count as an official vote..
and it appears that your trying to get the vote for StevenRyals added ..

and I'll also FOS HIPPO
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 02, 2008, 01:02:27 PM
I explained and apologised in the lounge thread that I didnt realise the deadline was 11am at which time I was actually working and I played football friday night so I didnt get around to voting.

two of you have given good reasons to suspect Trick Pony but we need to tread carefully after a bad night. Who did he vote for?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 02, 2008, 01:05:45 PM
and I'll also FOS HIPPO

for what reason?

But anyway, on with my actual post. We do at least have some information to compensate our pretty abysmal start. Gollum is definitely a serial killer, and they went for stevenryals.. this in itself doesn't give an amazing amount of information - steven's one of the people who always get killed early for being a threat to evil groups with his general accusing of everyone. But it does help us in that we know for certain there are two evil killing groups.

The hammerbro one might give us more information, because it seems pretty random. I'll examine what he did and said that could make him potential for a hit and post back my findings.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 02, 2008, 01:10:57 PM
have given good reasons to suspect Trick Pony but we need to tread carefully after a bad night. Who did he vote for?

Stevenryals on the 30th May - then he was off until the deadline.

Hippo I FOS'd you for the reasons I stated .. late but useless vote and tring to get the vote for Stevenryals counted .. I found it after I had written the first part of my post and added it on. 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 02, 2008, 01:54:39 PM
Hippo I FOS'd you for the reasons I stated .. late but useless vote and tring to get the vote for Stevenryals counted .. I found it after I had written the first part of my post and added it on. 

In reference to 'getting' the one vote to count, yes i did point it out. But if you look, it was just after i'd called laser up on not having voted and being a positive influence - he came on and made a vote that wouldn't have counted, i pointed out that it still wasn't being an influence, and i treated that as suspicious. If that makes me suspicious, then fair enough.

And i don't think it was a useless vote for SVH. I'd voted for him all day, changed for a reason that, as it turned out, wasn't right, so changed back. There were a number of votes made after mine, so it was hardly beyond the realms of possibility that someone else might have seen things the same way as me surely?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 02, 2008, 02:05:54 PM
Look the timing of these votes. Mikeblue only had one vote from SirHammer which was pages ago but right out of the blue towards the end of the game he gets two votes which lead to his lynching. Its right before the deadline and within an hour of each other, looks very dodgy to me. FOS on both unless they can explain this sudden voting surge.

Steveryals being a part of two mason groups makes sense to Wesmancity's claim to be a mason and I will ask his other mason not to step forward. But it means that I now have reason to believe his claim as I didnt yesterday.

When I voted for Mike he had only one vote my vote would not have made it an instant lynch also Mike had just voted for Stevenryals & the reasons he used where so obviously not true so it made him look very suspect we all get things wrong just look at mike 's vote & he turned out to be innocent & also you SVH you made a mistake didn't you or did you mean not to vote you seem a bit like the pot calling the kettle also I'm suspicious of how you managed to miss the voting deadline but are straight on after it deflecting from the fact that you did not vote.


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Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 02, 2008, 02:24:54 PM
Ive now explained this about 3 times. On Friday evening I played football and worked from 6am to 3pm thus missing the deadline. Due to uni I only work one shift a week so the fact that I am on just after the deadline is more to do with free time than anything else.

And use full stops for christs sake

I think those that are left that have read my posts carefully should know that I am innocent but you either failed to figure out the blatantly obvious or you are trying to get another townie lynched.

Vote Laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on June 02, 2008, 02:33:14 PM
DAMMIT!!!  WOULD YOU STOP KILLING ME IN THE FIRST FREAKING DAY!!!!!  YOU (@*&*(%(@#(*#*@*!*)$@*8         @(#*$(@**(  (@#*@*(#*


I MEAN..  "ug... "

bastards..  better not be mophead, or he's grounded from the mafia games for ever!!!!  twit..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 02, 2008, 02:56:59 PM
I think Laserblue is trying to make something out of nothing.

FOS Laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 02, 2008, 02:59:56 PM
Mophead please ensure that you have read the posts first this time before casting a vote!  ::)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 02, 2008, 03:02:45 PM
Just reading back trying to find anything laserblue might have let slip about his identity - 'cause i hadn't really noticed him much until the very end of yesterday and start of today - when i found this amusing little nugget from  the no-lynch discussions..

I think it's a good idea but if everyone just comes on & votes no lynch then we face day two in exactly the same position none the wiser but possibly two down ... I don't see how this helps the town.

- He thinks it's a good idea himself
- It won't help the town

or am i reading this incorrectly?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 02, 2008, 03:03:49 PM
hmmm Laserblue has been online for a while since my vote and has since left without a response after mophead added another vote. Couldnt think of a valid response? Think I may be onto something here
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 02, 2008, 03:05:26 PM
I wouldnt read too much into that. It could just be a double bluff to make himself look innocent.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 02, 2008, 03:07:04 PM
mophead only fosed laserblue
footballnewbie why did you change your vote
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 02, 2008, 03:10:32 PM
mophead only fosed laserblue
footballnewbie why did you change your vote

Brillant question!

I'm going to review for a bit...lot happened in the past few post...need to catch up.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 02, 2008, 03:44:08 PM
I think Laserblue is trying to make something out of nothing.

FOS Laserblue

This is begining to feel like a bandwagon starting :bleh:

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 02, 2008, 03:47:07 PM
hmmm Laserblue has been online for a while since my vote and has since left without a response after mophead added another vote. Couldnt think of a valid response? Think I may be onto something here

SVH I am currently at work ...... some of us are not stupids...... I work in a careers office I see the public I logged in during my break.... I feel you are really making something out of nothing ........can you tell me why?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 02, 2008, 04:04:34 PM
Because you ignored my posts explaining why i didnt vote, ignored some of my previous posts hinting that i have a motive for pointing out your late vote for mikeblue.

I am certainly suspicious of both yourself and footballnewb
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 02, 2008, 04:26:51 PM
This is begining to feel like a bandwagon starting :bleh:

1 vote and an FOS isn't a bandwagon, it's not even pressure enough for you to post a proper defense/response to the accusations levelled at you. 2 votes and an FOS might be though..

vote laserblue

The way you've started today, and tried to coast through day one posting non-commital things, until i stated that people not voting were suspicious, when you miraculously appeared with a vote, just doesn't make you look good to me.

Up to you to convince me someone else is more suspicious looking than yourself.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 02, 2008, 04:54:39 PM
As on the first day im going with FOS bluestars and Laserblue ill give my reasons later as im at work.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 02, 2008, 05:12:10 PM
WAIT!

We have had HUGE town losses and there are all these rush votes?? We can NOT make any mistakes this time! Here is the information on the voting and fosing so far in the game. I will post my comments afterwards.

AfroBoy      FOS YORKSHIREBLUE.    5
      Fos Wesmancity       5
      Fos hammerbro.       5
      FOS mophead       6
      vote yorkshire       8
Bluestars      VOTE FOOTBALLNEWBY   10
FootballNewb   VOTE TickPony      12
      UNVOTE TrickPony      13
      VOTE Mikeblue      13
Hammerbro   Vote: No lynch      1
      FOS: Happy Axeman   2
      vote: Afroboy      3
      Vote: Liverbird      4
      Unvote: Afroboy      9
      unvote: afroboy      11
      Vote: Hippo      11
Happy Axeman   FOS Hammersbro      2
      VOTE Wesmancity      2
      UNVOTE WESMANCITY   6
      VOTE MIASG      6
Hippo      FOS: MIASG      1
      vote: no lynch      2
      vote: Steve Van Halen   3
      unvote: SVH      7
      vote: Yorkshire blue   7
      FOS bluestars      10
      unvote: yorkshire      10
      vote: SVH      10
      Unvote SVH      12
      Vote Afroboy      12
      unvote afro      12
      vote SVH                   12
      vote laserblue      14
LaserBlue      FOS mikeblue      12
      FOS footienewb      12
      FOS YORKSHIREBLUE.   12
      vote mikeblue      13
Liverbird      vote is for wesmancity   12
Miasg      FOS wes                   8
      FOS mophead      8
      FOS stevenryalls      8
      FOS hammerbro      8
      VOTE FOOTYNEWB      11
      FOS MIKEBLUE      12
      FOS laserblue      13
      FOS TrickPony      13
      FOS SirHammer      13
      FOS Footynewb       13
      FOS HIPPO      13
MikeBlue      FOS Hammerbro      3
      FOS SVH                   3
      FOS Wesmancity      3
      FOS Hippo      3
      FOS MIASG      3
      FOS for Hammerbro   4
      vote Steveryals      12
Mophead      VOTE:AFROBOY      4
      vote yorkshireblue      9
      FOS Laserblue      13
Sir Hammer   FOS:MIASG      1
      Vote: Mikeblue      7
      FOS MIASG      7
      FOS Wesmancity      7
Stevenryals   Vote Hammersbro      4
      UNVOTE Hammersbro   6
      VOTE Bluestarsneyes   8
      UNVOTE BLUESTARSNEYES   9
      VOTE TRICKPONY      9
      FOS Hippo      10
SVH      Vote Laserblue      13
Trick Pony   FOS MIASG      8
      FOS Footballnewb      8
      VOTE:Stevenryals      11
Wesmancity   Vote: No LYNCH      2
      FOS for Yorkshire      7
      Vote Yorkshire Blue   7
      FOS Laserblue      7
      UNVOTE yorkshireblue   8
      VOTE Laserblue      8
Yorkshire Blue   FOS at yorkshire      2
      vote trick pony      13
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 02, 2008, 05:19:16 PM
As on the first day im going with FOS bluestars and Laserblue ill give my reasons later as im at work.

Love to hear it...yes...I'm VERY interested to see why you point out me...why? Because I've never bought your role claim. First off....you claim to be a mason...however instead of mafia killing off you...they kill off another mason...and instead of right away coming on and saying something about the lost mason you point out suspicions without anything to back it up...I'll find it but you've done that numerous times in this game.
Not to mention....you say you are a mason...was Steven your pal??? I mean if he was...then why no mention of his loss huh? Quiet aren't you sir?

I see over and over you say early on that laserblue is evil...well back it up...you never EVER give any reasons for having said something...it was early in the game and I never called you out on it...but at this point in the game...IF YOU are a townie as you claim...act like it and explain yourself.

I find it odd also when I say you smell of something...instead of having anything of worth to respond you simply say it makes you chuckle...look we do NOT need to loose anymore townies...but you have done the false claiming before so your role claim always made me suspicious it was unnecessary and early...I think it is time you get an open mouth...I don't understand why YOU wouldn't have been taken out if you are a mason...taking out steven instead to me screams that he was on to something and that is what I want to look into...He must have got undersomeone????
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 02, 2008, 05:30:08 PM
Steveryals was not a part of wes's mason group. as TCH said he was a part of mason group b

My vote for laserblue wasnt rushed. I pointed out his last ditch vote for mikeblue along with footballnewb and he went straight on the offensive instead of defensive which was very sus to me so i voted for him. he then claimed that it all seemed very bandwagonish and as hippo pointed out - one FOS and one vote is hardly a bandwagon.

I didnt believe wes either but for reasons within the game and for reasons I would rather not say I do not think it would be wise to lynch wes - for now at least
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 02, 2008, 05:42:31 PM
Steveryals was not a part of wes's mason group. as TCH said he was a part of mason group b

My vote for laserblue wasnt rushed. I pointed out his last ditch vote for mikeblue along with footballnewb and he went straight on the offensive instead of defensive which was very sus to me so i voted for him. he then claimed that it all seemed very bandwagonish and as hippo pointed out - one FOS and one vote is hardly a bandwagon.

I didnt believe wes either but for reasons within the game and for reasons I would rather not say I do not think it would be wise to lynch wes - for now at least

I am not defending laserblue at all...however, Miasg did ask me to post this listing and it does give some good information.

I think it is in the best interest of all that WES speak for himself...we've let him role claim and simply leave the game with no other input much and trust me I get what you are saying if he is a mason...but at this point...I find it very odd he's come on yet again and said laserblue is evil and backs it up with nothing...a mason doesn't know such things like that...and I for one get the group B...meaning there is another group...okay...so that means it is possible there is another group of masons that Wes could be apart of but I want HIM to explain himself...it's simple as that.

I for one want to think really good about this vote...footballnewb y was my vote and he comes on at the last minute and I think if I am looking correctly makes that final vote for mikeblue? Well...how that isn't suspicious to anyone I don't get at all..he and laserblue look really rough right now I agree....but the town has been known to lynch our own before...

I also think looking at WHO was killed in the night phase is a good indicator of what we have going on as well...stevenryals was killed off and it appears very suspect to me..unlike hippo..I think it could tell us alot!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 02, 2008, 06:07:13 PM
I really think laserblue is trying to start a bandwagon.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 02, 2008, 06:25:18 PM
I really think laserblue is trying to start a bandwagon.

What ... on myself :laugh:

Please explain mophead cause this doesn't make any sense?????
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 02, 2008, 06:28:15 PM
Wes I think it's time you explained what you mean? I have nothing to hide so go ahead........
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 02, 2008, 07:07:42 PM
I really think laserblue is trying to start a bandwagon.

eh? He's trying to create a myth that there has been one, i don't think he's starting one to be honest?

I also think looking at WHO was killed in the night phase is a good indicator of what we have going on as well...stevenryals was killed off and it appears very suspect to me..unlike hippo..I think it could tell us alot!

Well, i find it interesting that you haven't mentioned the killing of hammerbro. Not concerned with finding the mafia? Just Gollum? Interesting. But the reason i said we'd learn more from hammerbro's killing than from steven is because he made nowhere near the same amount of accusations as steven. The only person i can remember off the top of my head that steven seemed absolutely 100% about was mophead, and that came across like a "i don't want to be conned by him because i'll never live it down, so i'm going to over compensate" type accusation.

Re: Your List

hammerbro was the only person to officially register votes/suspicions for Happy Axeman or Liverbird. I don't think that is a coincidence. And he had afroboy voted for once, but he seemed to completely backtrack on that, so i'm not sure that's useable.

As for Steven's activity, it's you, me or Trick Pony. I don't trust either of you. But then, i don't particularly trust this method either.. it'd be very easy for the scum to win if set-ups were that simple to achieve.  He accused a hell of a lot more than just us three for instance.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 02, 2008, 07:33:36 PM
Well, i find it interesting that you haven't mentioned the killing of hammerbro. Not concerned with finding the mafia? Just Gollum? Interesting.

Absolutely untrue...I am concerned with finding anyone that is not PROTOWN..either mafia, cult, vigilante, serial...whatever.. .I was pointing out that I find it interesting that you found more evidence coming from Hammersbro killing...nice twist attempt there again hippo

But the reason i said we'd learn more from hammerbro's killing than from steven is because he made nowhere near the same amount of accusations as steven.

Actually that is NOT backed up by the facts...matter of fact if you actually read what I posted you will see it was actually Hammersbro that made more than 7 accusations all together and for votes he outnumbered pointed out folks 3-4
The only thing that is factual is that they BOTH finger a HIPPO in their last fosing and voting and both ended up DEAD!


The only person i can remember off the top of my head that steven seemed absolutely 100% about was mophead, and that came across like a "i don't want to be conned by him because i'll never live it down, so i'm going to over compensate" type accusation.

Re: Your List

hammerbro was the only person to officially register votes/suspicions for Happy Axeman or Liverbird. I don't think that is a coincidence. And he had afroboy voted for once, but he seemed to completely backtrack on that, so i'm not sure that's useable.

As for Steven's activity, it's you, me or Trick Pony. I don't trust either of you. But then, i don't particularly trust this method either.. it'd be very easy for the scum to win if set-ups were that simple to achieve.  He accused a hell of a lot more than just us three for instance.

It is simple in every game I've played a townie has at some point been in the vote count to lynch a townie...it just happens especially on day one...therefore I'm sort of assuming that all those that voted for Mikeblue could not all be mafia...that would be too obvious...so using that method alone to start the vote today, hasn't worked full proof in the past...it is a factor...looking at those that were killed and who they were suspicious of..

NOT to mention...who that did not get voted off...never voted for...that's key to me as well...I look at all the pieces together...that's all I'd like all of us to do today that are town because at this point I feel we are very much in danger of loosing.


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 02, 2008, 07:34:38 PM
sorry my responses are in the quote in red....wasn't sure how to post that to be honest.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 02, 2008, 07:43:17 PM
Just thought I would tell you all that my girlfriend is going to be hogging the pc tonight and I will be away all day tommorow.

No voting for me for not posting, scumbags!   :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 02, 2008, 07:48:21 PM
I sure am gald Bluestears is doing all the work and not anyone else.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 02, 2008, 08:46:51 PM
The only thing that is factual is that they BOTH finger a HIPPO in their last fosing and voting and both ended up DEAD!

Yes that's true.

Hippo...smart player

So you think i'm smart, but would kill "BOTH" of the people who suspected me the most. If you really think a role exists that could kill "BOTH"? Or are you just being a bit sensationalist to try and incriminate me? If i was evil, you wouldn't have been able to track me back to the killings - that's what us "smart players" are like. Is this the world's worst set-up attempt, bluestars?

Actually that is NOT backed up by the facts...matter of fact if you actually read what I posted you will see it was actually Hammersbro that made more than 7 accusations all together and for votes he outnumbered pointed out folks 3-4

I did "actually read" what you wrote. Did you read it yourself? The "7 accusations" you're talking about include a vote for no lynch and unvoting afroboy twice, so let's not just start lying about things eh? You know exactly what i mean about Steven as well, as you indicate here:

he is posting his more pick at people side so I'm sort of leaning to townie on him

So you think he was picking at people, trying to provoke a response, but believe that the only people he actually accused and could have a potential motive for killing him are on your list?

I also said mophead was somebody Steven thought was evil and you said this wasn't backed up by facts?

Mophead is evil.. i'm telling you.. i can read him like a text message sent on the worlds largest phone..   

mophead:  evil :  Easier to read than a comic book made for retards.. (no offense if any of you are retarded)(shame on me)

you're evil mop.... evil.. you may have them fooled bit I can read you like a message in a bottle sent from a slightly blind man who only had a very large pen to write his message with.. and he assumed that a very large and easily to read message would serve him better than anything else... that's how easily i can read you.. like that..

I think he's evil... I've not been wrong yet..  First game I said he was evil on day one.. 2nd game I said I thought he was innocent..  now I believe he's evil again... 

Care to, you know, reconsider that? I'd say that was motive enough? Maybe you're working together, and decided to try and get away with his death by making a list for use to pick the next lynch, that just conveniently missed all of these accusations out?

I sure am gald Bluestears is doing all the work and not anyone else.

Which makes this make more sense.

unvote Laserblue
vote mophead


FOS bluestars just so my suspicion is registered on your next list..



Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on June 02, 2008, 09:21:21 PM
mophead only fosed laserblue
footballnewbie why did you change your vote

cant you read ??
to save my own ass...
already explained this... keep up...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on June 02, 2008, 09:24:58 PM
!@$£, what a shitter. Not a good night at all.

The lynch on Mikeblue, I can see why people would vote for him. I had him down as a suspect, along with StevenRyals.

I am puzzled for the motive of killing Hammersbro, he didnt really offer much apart from his 'No-lynch' motion. So Like Hippo has mentioned, I see no reason for his death.

As for StevenRyals, He is always a high profile target so it came as no suprise to see him dead, hell, I even took him out in the 1st day of last game when i was serial killer! lol ... but that was because i was sure he was mafia. lol
Who's skin did he try and get under most? his familys, Bluestars and Mophead.
Bluestars I am still err'ing on the side of caution but am still swaying to being good, but Mophead?
I sure am gald Bluestears is doing all the work and not anyone else.
what does that mean exactly?  ???
not only that, but he calls Laser for creating a bandwaggon, what bandwaggon? ???

Without Mr Ryals, we have Hippo. I like Hippo, he adds a bit of pressure to peeps and make people think. he says a lot and works things out using sound logic most of the time, but I also think his style suits both Alignments. the one thing that I have picked up on is that he does keep changing his vote far too regulary... this obviously makes it harder to pin him down as mafia if your looking at vote patterns... and he knows it.

VOTE HIPPO
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 02, 2008, 09:56:55 PM
I really dont know what to think about anyone right now.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 02, 2008, 10:03:48 PM
Yes that's true.

So you think i'm smart, but would kill "BOTH" of the people who suspected me the most. If you really think a role exists that could kill "BOTH"? Or are you just being a bit sensationalist to try and incriminate me? If i was evil, you wouldn't have been able to track me back to the killings - that's what us "smart players" are like. Is this the world's worst set-up attempt, bluestars?

I did "actually read" what you wrote. Did you read it yourself? The "7 accusations" you're talking about include a vote for no lynch and unvoting afroboy twice, so let's not just start lying about things eh? You know exactly what i mean about Steven as well, as you indicate here:

So you think he was picking at people, trying to provoke a response, but believe that the only people he actually accused and could have a potential motive for killing him are on your list?

I also said mophead was somebody Steven thought was evil and you said this wasn't backed up by facts?

Care to, you know, reconsider that? I'd say that was motive enough? Maybe you're working together, and decided to try and get away with his death by making a list for use to pick the next lynch, that just conveniently missed all of these accusations out?

Which makes this make more sense.

unvote Laserblue
vote mophead


FOS bluestars just so my suspicion is registered on your next list..






Alright Hippo...you are really fired up....let me say it this way....IF you are town...then I have no problem going back and forth with you on some of these issues to lead us to hopefully the RIGHT evil person to lynch...however...I do ask that if you are town...you please make sure you aren't just leading a charge against another player simply for me asking you questions.

I'm not offended by the questioning...but I feel you attempt to twist and shade a bit...which is normally your game but if you are town you obviously know we are fighting for our lives at this point and the town is in no shape to fight one another...that being said...here's my responses

1) yes I think you are smart....lol! want a cookie!

2) sometimes making an "obvious" kill does not make you stupid...but keenly smart to use the..."I'd be too smart" defense.

3) I have no set-up...I don't know if you are town or mafia or killer or anything...I want the TOWN to lynch the evil ones period and if that means I question everyone...yes even YOU..I will do it if I see you put something on here that is quite obviously incorrect.

4) every person can look at the listing I put and see....Hammersbro had as much and even more activity than stevenryals...even if you exclude the unvote afroboy twice...the fact that instead of just saying...ok..instea d you continue this obviously incorrect assesment and keep it going...and even say I'm LYING???...any townie is welcome to read my listing...and review the board...if I made a mistake..fine I'll own up to it...but from the count I made...I show that these two guys were both sussing folks out.

5) The line of arguing over which is more important to look at, either killing of hammersbro or killing of stevenryals is stupid to be honest!! I was attempting to show both had sussed enough folks out that we shouldn't discount looking at either one. I think if you look at the whole picture hopefully us townies can make sense and get the mafia and any other killer types before we either kill ourselves off or get killed in the night!

6) I do not agree that the only people on either of their voting lists are the only suspects...heck I think they voted for each other at some point..if you include mikeblue...it's the whole picture once again...I'm saying look at voting record, look at who was killed and look at who they suspected all together!

7)I am NOT going to defend mophead...I've said it over and over...my kid is nuts...he's tried to kill me when he was mafia and didn't even think I was town when we were both townies..he ain't working with me...and I don't have a clue about him...although steven was convinced he was evil...steven says so every game...so it's hard...I don't get in their squabbles cause it's like miasg and trickpony..so...do what you want but I'm not working with him...don't have a clue on him...and from this post I think he's just responded to miasg's request for me to put that list on the board...it was his attempt at humor I think...but again I am not defending him..he's on his own no help from mamma!


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 02, 2008, 10:39:44 PM
yes footballnewbie sorry didnt realise the vote count  ::)
mophead looks sus to me but he seems to play the two games the same
and i think he as been evil and good asnt he but he does put in some weird postsfos mophead
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 02, 2008, 10:48:58 PM
Hi Axeman,

or as i like to call you, "the voice of reason from day one, who ensured that we are 3 townies down now, and not just the two". How's it going?  ;)

Thought everyone had missed the point i made about Hammerbro being the only one who'd expressed suspicion towards you, and him being dead, but obviously you didn't. It didn't really take long afterwards for you to vote for me did it? Obviously not referencing the actual reason, but still obvious all the same. You've even rather cheekily told us that you "see no reason for his death". Nice.

there is no solid reason or foundation for townies to use No lynch, as this then takes away the main source of information we have over the coarse of the oncoming days... who voted for who, who bandwaggoned, who withdrew and changed at last minute, these are all important facts we will loose if there is a no lynch

So with that in mind, let's have a quick look at what you've done yourself.

Happy Axeman   FOS Hammersbro      2
      VOTE Wesmancity      2
      UNVOTE WESMANCITY   6
      VOTE MIASG      6

Suspected a townie
Voted a mason
Unvoted a mason (when he had to)
Voted unknown
Voted a townie (me)

So basically, if this info is what we should be using to analyse who to lynch, what should people be concluding about yourself?

What was the reason you've voted for me again? Because i'm trying to put pressure on people? That's a pro-town thing surely?

RSVP.

yes footballnewbie sorry didnt realise the vote count  ::)
mophead looks sus to me but he seems to play the two games the same
and i think he as been evil and good asnt he but he does put in some weird postsfos mophead

brilliant.




Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 03, 2008, 12:30:04 AM
Well the vote count so far is

Hippo          1 Vote
LaserBlue     1 Vote
Mophead     1 Vote



yet to vote AfroBoy, Bluestars, Footballnewb, Happy Axeman, LaserBlue, LiverBird, Miasg, Mophead, Sir Hammer, Trick Pony, Wesmancity and Yorkshire
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 03, 2008, 01:12:17 AM
can the mason's not claim if they can help it  :-X!! especially mason group B - while it will help me know that your a townie and possible hobbit, and save you, it also makes you the no.1 target of the evil doers and we have already lost the doctor .. and I don't know what powers we have left to save.
Wes your claim was wierd as it was unprovoked but I feel you were left around to root out the other partner.  think about it today people ..

We all think that gollum is a serial killer .. but which one did he/she kill and which did the mafia take out ?  I'm inclined to think the mafia took out stevenryals and the serial killer hammerbro .. I don't think hammerbro affected enough members of the mafia for them to vote him out.

LiverBird feel free to contribute today - you pretty much got a free run on day 1 ..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 03, 2008, 09:26:44 AM
can the mason's not claim if they can help it  :-X!! especially mason group B - while it will help me know that your a townie and possible hobbit, and save you, it also makes you the no.1 target of the evil doers and we have already lost the doctor .. and I don't know what powers we have left to save.
Wes your claim was wierd as it was unprovoked but I feel you were left around to root out the other partner.  think about it today people ..

We all think that gollum is a serial killer .. but which one did he/she kill and which did the mafia take out ?  I'm inclined to think the mafia took out stevenryals and the serial killer hammerbro .. I don't think hammerbro affected enough members of the mafia for them to vote him out.

LiverBird feel free to contribute today - you pretty much got a free run on day 1 ..

I figure most people are going on under the assumption that Gollum is the one killing people with rocks to the head.

I will be back with more thoughts on whats been said today.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 03, 2008, 09:54:05 AM
can the mason's not claim if they can help it  :-X!! especially mason group B - while it will help me know that your a townie and possible hobbit, and save you, it also makes you the no.1 target of the evil doers and we have already lost the doctor .. and I don't know what powers we have left to save.
Wes your claim was wierd as it was unprovoked but I feel you were left around to root out the other partner.  think about it today people ..
LiverBird feel free to contribute today - you pretty much got a free run on day 1 ..

Still I am uneasy on Miasg. This post seems to me like an attempt to appear pro-town by stating the obvious.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 03, 2008, 10:04:47 AM
We all think that gollum is a serial killer .. but which one did he/she kill and which did the mafia take out ?  I'm inclined to think the mafia took out stevenryals and the serial killer hammerbro .. I don't think hammerbro affected enough members of the mafia for them to vote him out.

You're trying too hard to look like you don't know anything. We know for a fact that Sauron and the nazgul are the mafia, as it implies it in the rules, and is pretty clear to anyone who read the death scenes at least. We know for a fact they killed hammerbro and not stevenryals.

I think you've intentionally got this wrong, in order to make it look like you're just an innocent townie who knows nothing about any evil activities. Looks dodgy to me.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 03, 2008, 11:49:49 AM
Looking too hard - is that such a thing ???  I didn't take the killing wording literally which if correct is my fault.  I assumed Steven to be the one the mafia would take out for fun. 

Mate I'm dodgy if I post and I'm dodgy if I do nothing .. that's the problem being a normal townie with no powers ..  everyone else is 99% potentially mafia/evil and you are to them. 

If gollum killed stevenryals then that potentially is a harder find ( the list is too long)  ..  mafia killing hammerbro though  .. who had an axe to grind ?

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 03, 2008, 01:27:10 PM
Looking too hard - is that such a thing ??? 

That's not what I said though, i said you're trying too hard to look innocent.

I didn't take the killing wording literally which if correct is my fault.  I assumed Steven to be the one the mafia would take out for fun. 

What's not to take literally from "Sauron has sent the Nazgul and they have found you, attracted by the lure of the ring. Hammersbro is first to react, races down with his sword to prevent them coming through the gate. There is a clash of swords but Hammersbro is overpowered and killed."?

If gollum killed stevenryals then that potentially is a harder find ( the list is too long)  ..  mafia killing hammerbro though  .. who had an axe to grind ?

This is what i've been saying. Hammerbro was the only person in the game to cast any suspicion or votes the way of both Axeman and Liverbird.

However, you could have known this, and be setting up Axeman for a kill, as he was the only person who actually voted for you on day one. The wording, "axe to grind", makes me suspect this more strongly.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 03, 2008, 01:41:36 PM
However, you could have known this, and be setting up Axeman for a kill, as he was the only person who actually voted for you on day one. The wording, "axe to grind", makes me suspect this more strongly.
  well yeah it was ment as it was written .. I'm towny and axeman had a go at me and other now known townies.   The message was there to be interpreted but thanks for making me put it out in the open .. I can see now why he previously role claimed with the mod quotes just to get you off his back - your like a staving rottwieler !!  what do you want me to say or do ?  role claim?  it might come down to that .. but I don't want to or need to .. plus no one will believe me anyway.  I am a normal no power townie.  Do you believe axeman to be innocent ? or are you trying to get him to unvote you ? 

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 03, 2008, 02:11:05 PM
I'm not trying to get him to unvote me, i found it pretty hilarious that he voted for me almost straight after i pointed out his potential motive for killing hammerbro. Even more amusingly, he didn't refer to that in the entire post where he voted me, because it seemed to be something people missed and he didn't want it dragged out in to the open. That's why i didn't know why you were being cryptic about it - the information's something everybody should know, not have to pick through subtle references to work out.

And no, don't roleclaim. I'm just questioning you because it's what needs to be done so that people can get a read on each other and make more educated guesses about who's who. I'm satisfied for now though  :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on June 03, 2008, 05:52:37 PM
lol your laughing at me? have you not thought that i'm laughing at you hippo?

as for me coming on after you posted, what a load of shit. I come on when i get the chance. I work from 6 till 6 most days, sometimes later.. so when i have time, i post and add my ten pence worth. So dont try fitting me up with pure crap.

why did i vote you? because A: I wanted to see what lies and bullshit you would fit me up with... and B: because of the way you are voting everyone at the drop of hat, making it easier for you to cover your tracks... and if you say its to put pressure on people, then thats also bullshit, you dont put pressure on people by voting then changing it every 2nd post... of cause you know that already dont you.

So let me get this right, Its ok for you to be linked with people because 'smart' people wouldnt leave tracks behind like that, yet You try and stitch me up like a kipper because i'm not allowed to be linked with peeps unlike you are? Pot and kettle spring to mind... you also did the same thing on Bluestars.
and in anycase, how can you associate me with Hammersbro? I fosed him early in the day because of his strong 'No-lynch' campaign, after that i never bothered with him. so to say i'm linked with him because of that is purely clutching at straws.

I dont want anything dragged into the open? what planet are you on? do you not read my posts properly? of cause you dont, cause your looking for things to accuse people of, to deflect the pressure away from yourself arnt you?

motives? in my eyes you have more motive than anyone for the death of Hammersbro..
Yeah i unvote: afroboy. Will do it again just to make sure.

I'm gonna have to defend svh from Hippo here. Mainly because if you go back and read the quotes he has picked out, there in the middle of whole paragraphs. Hippos manipulating things and taking them out of context. On the other hand, svh did state no lynch would be mafia shortly after voting no lynch himself. But in the same post he does also explain why he has changed his mind. I think Hippo is trying to overstate svh's change of opinion. I think i'm gonna have to Vote: Hippo]/b] for now.

and to top it of, didnt My Ryals have you as a prime suspect too? (yes he did!)

I may of been way off with my predictions last day(which i have openly admitted), but this time I'm sure Hippo is playing an evil game... remember the starwars game where i got you and your partner, but you and Rayvon then accused me of cheating... i wonder if your going to do the same?  :-X

All i've got to say to everyone is be wary of the Hippo, dont buy into his over inflated rubbish as it will get more townies killed than mafia... which at this moment in time, I'm sure we are playing into his hands.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on June 03, 2008, 06:36:09 PM
looking back through the posts, something has occured to me, Where is Liverbird? what  exactly has been her contribution?  ???

then the guy Steve was calling evil all day was Mophead, what has his contribution been?

And who the heck is Wormtounge MIASG?

Fisrt what the crap is this vote no lynch junk? ???

Plus,where the heck is Afroboy??? We dont have school in Summer. Unless you get summer school.

To get things going im going im going to VOTE:AFROBOY

Im sorry...i didnt know that you got out of school later than america

Im not mophead anymore. Now that i got my hair cut.

If we town just sit back than every night phase we are going to killed of and thats an easy win for the mafia.

Just cause iwas mafia once doesnt mean im so evil!!

Notice that i still havent UNVOTED afroboy(i didnt bold on purpose)

Hes doing it because i was mafia and i killed him in the night phase my first game

Wait is livebird a girl?

Alright....this is what I think.

Yorkshire I really think that you could be evil this game.

So im going to vote yorkshireblue

Im not going to be on for about a week.
Im going to Church cam :)p and will make a post whenever I get back.

I think Laserblue is trying to make something out of nothing.

FOS Laserblue

I really think laserblue is trying to start a bandwagon.

I sure am gald Bluestears is doing all the work and not anyone else.

I really dont know what to think about anyone right now.

All one line pointless and useless posts. I also think he has more motive than anyone to kill SteveRyals than anyone... FOS MOPHEAD

then there is also my other Major suspect, Trickpony. who was also another of Steve's main suspects... He calls me in one of posts for being defensive? what?? up until this point where Hippo seems intent on fitting me up, where have i been defensive? I would say ive been more on the offensive when ive posted.  :-\ is this another case of Mafia deflection.. he voted Ryals too...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on June 03, 2008, 07:11:39 PM
I've been looking back and at who would have motive to kill hammerbro and apart from a random kill the one person I can see is Liverbird as hammerbro was the only vote on her and her vote was on someone who already claimed mason.

Also I let her off for no posting yesterday but today I will not be as easy on the non-posters and would like to see some sort of opinion from her soon.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 03, 2008, 07:54:02 PM
Does anyone know where livebird has been lately?

And Axeman....The reason i havent posted much is because i really dont have much to say about it
 :-\
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 03, 2008, 08:05:02 PM
why did i vote you? because A: I wanted to see what lies and bullshit you would fit me up with... and B: because of the way you are voting everyone at the drop of hat, making it easier for you to cover your tracks... and if you say its to put pressure on people, then thats also bullshit, you dont put pressure on people by voting then changing it every 2nd post... of cause you know that already dont you.

Well you clearly felt pressured enough to react; MIASG did; Bluestars did. These are just the ones in the last 24 hours. If you're saying what i'm doing ISN'T putting pressure on people, then that's a bit ridiculous isn't it? And i don't think anyone else would agree with you on that.

I may of been way off with my predictions last day(which i have openly admitted), but this time I'm sure Hippo is playing an evil game... remember the starwars game where i got you and your partner, but you and Rayvon then accused me of cheating... i wonder if your going to do the same?  :-X

EVERY game you bring this up. It was 2 years ago, and it wasn't even me who accused you of anything. I play the game properly, for a laugh, and in the right spirit. Sorry if you don't think that's true. If you want to cast doubt over my character, fair enough, that's what it's all about. But let's keep it to the actual contents of the game eh?

All one line pointless and useless posts. I also think he has more motive than anyone to kill SteveRyals than anyone... FOS MOPHEAD

This is true, and is why he has my vote.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 03, 2008, 09:07:30 PM
Hippo the difference I see in your game at this moment, is not questioning actual statements made by me for one...you twist statements and put complete garbage out there that doesn't add up...that is not "townie" like...it's one thing to be the investigator so forth and ask leading questions and get someone going...Steven does it as well....however, the difference is you are twisting the facts.

Fact....Stevenryals and Hammersbro are dead....the lynch was for Mikeblue....NOW what did they all have in common...one person...HIPPO...yo u deflect this and you attempt to put pressure on all other players for links but this common link is quite clear cut. Both are dead...both fingered you.

Liverbird is nowhere to be found and she is absent from having a single suspicion or vote on you as well...can't speak for her...but I also find it odd as Axeman said as well that Trick Pony the other suspicion of Stevenryals never sees you as a threat....I have to leave for work now...but I guess at this point I do not want to simply vote anyone until others in this game have come on and started to contribute.

Absent of course are MANY players left in this game without as much as a post since the night phase!!!! I've ask a certain WES to speak for himself...and Liverbird might ought to defend herself as well....too many absent players and the same lot of us talking ourselves up all day...I'm not voting finally at the moment as I want to hear what others have to add.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 03, 2008, 09:22:23 PM
Does anyone know where livebird has been lately?

And Axeman....The reason i havent posted much is because i really dont have much to say about it
 :-\

Vote:Liverbird, until she comes on.

TCH - Could we perhaps have a prod on these  players who havent posted since?

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 03, 2008, 10:08:15 PM
Does anyone know where livebird has been lately?

And Axeman....The reason i havent posted much is because i really dont have much to say about it
 :-\

Vote:Liverbird, until she comes on.

TCH - Could we perhaps have a prod on these  players who havent posted since?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on June 03, 2008, 10:25:34 PM
At the moment, even though loadsa people are against him, I am pretty confident hippo is good because even though you're saying he has been getting town killed, just cos he got voted by hammerbro doesn't mean he's killed him at night. I'm not saying he wouldn't kill steve but if you look at the bigger picture There are other people who would want these people dead too such as mophead for steve, liverbird for hammerbro (i explained last post), and hippo is linked to nearlly everyone by an FOS or vote.

Also, how SVH getting away with this! Votes no one on the first day managing to avoid any attention from anyone but doesn't pressure anyone either, then goes into day 2, and tries to turn everyone away onto laser before anyone can come on and say anything else so he has got away un-questioned again! FOS SVH
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 03, 2008, 11:02:56 PM
Hippo the difference I see in your game at this moment, is not questioning actual statements made by me for one...you twist statements and put complete garbage out there that doesn't add up...that is not "townie" like...it's one thing to be the investigator so forth and ask leading questions and get someone going...Steven does it as well....however, the difference is you are twisting the facts.

Fact....Stevenryals and Hammersbro are dead....the lynch was for Mikeblue....NOW what did they all have in common...one person...HIPPO...yo u deflect this and you attempt to put pressure on all other players for links but this common link is quite clear cut. Both are dead...both fingered you.

Right, this thing about me saying stevenryals made the most accusations and you disagreeing, and now you referring to it as "complete garbage". I never once made out that steven voted for or fos'ed more than hammerbro, that was how you chose to "twist" it. I said stevenryals had made more accusations (these are just words; not anything concrete) than hammerbro, and other people have repeated this also. I don't see how that was garbage? He DID try and provoke a reaction from far more people than hammerbro.

As you're both keen to point out, i am a common link between the two deaths yes. But like i said, what kind of point is this? Why are we looking for a link between the two deaths? they were committed by 2 different sets of people who aren't working together. I'm no more likely, or less likely than anyone else on those lists to have committed either. Well, actually, i am less likely in my eyes, because i know for a fact that i didn't do it.

Just re-read, and you've actually linked me in to the mikeblue death as well. What am i supposed to have done towards that exactly? I didn't have anything to do with it at all. If you're implying people voted for him to defend me because of his FOS for me, back on page 3 according to your table, then that's a tad far fetched isn't it? Considering other people voted for me and FOS'ed me after this point, and in a stronger manner. But obviously it's me that's twisting things.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 04, 2008, 12:36:18 AM
Well the vote count so far is

Hippo          1 Vote
LaserBlue     1 Vote
Liverbird       1 Vote
Mophead     1 Vote


yet to vote AfroBoy, Bluestars, Footballnewb, Happy Axeman, LaserBlue, LiverBird, Miasg, Mophead, Trick Pony, Wesmancity and Yorkshire
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 04, 2008, 01:17:15 AM
I heard that Trick Pony might be intrastate right now so he may not be able to post .. TCH as his boss can you confirm this?  I would have thought he'd tell us if this was the case. 

Axeman whats your beef with mophead - that's how's he's played this game good and evil  :bleh: 

now in my opinion the people hiding seem to be (now don't get shitty with me it's just my view)

FootballNewb
Liverbird
Trick Pony
Yorkshire Blue
and Wesmancity who said
As on the first day im going with FOS bluestars and Laserblue ill give my reasons later as im at work.
  .. and I'm are still waiting Wes to know why

Hippo you seem content to go at people for a few posts and get off and jump on someone else .. why haven't you really had a go at these non-posters?  just becuase they don't blip on your radar?  Footynewb always seems to be around to answer to a vote or fos against him - but not any other time ...
Wes and Yorkshire hardly seem to post and don't say much.   Liverbird might have forgotten she's playing this game .. or she's being quiet for a reason.
Who is playing the game completely different from any game before ??  Trick Pony - he says he's just avoiding me but he's also avoiding the game.  He's had some important town roles before and that didn't stop him from posting.  FOS TrickPony and the other NON-Posters.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 04, 2008, 11:56:17 AM
The reason im still FOSing Laserblue is because on day one he sat on the fence with the vote no lynch and almost agreed with everyone, which to me is a sign of mafia. I still have my doubts over him and he may get my vote. Also the reason I FOS’s Bluestars was to see her reaction, TBH im not as sus of her anymore as I believe there is a more serious threat from Axeman and Hippo both seem good players at this game and are writing essays of stuff which tbh is throwing me abit, I’m not saying they are evil or good but its just slowing my vote down a little, one of them are bad but don’t know who, maybe they are the ring bearer who knows?.

The people im FOSing are:

Hippo - as it says above
Axeman - as it says above
Laser blue - mafia deffo
Yorkshire - deff evil as he’s trying to throw us from the last game, by playing the same way.


One of you will get my vote, not sure who

P.S. how long does this day last?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 04, 2008, 12:47:49 PM
the timelimit for Day Two is midday Saturday UK time

I have sent TrickPony away for 3 days on work business so he is unable to post, he'll be back on friday though.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 04, 2008, 12:51:49 PM
oh and Liverbird has been busy with the TT Races on the Isle of Man, hopefully she'll be posting again soon.

Doesn't help to determine if they are guilty or innocent but they are the only two i know who have legitimate reasons not to be posting.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 04, 2008, 12:53:11 PM
though hopefully City will appoint Hughes today and people can then get back to concentrating on the game  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 04, 2008, 01:02:35 PM
At the moment, even though loadsa people are against him, I am pretty confident hippo is good because even though you're saying he has been getting town killed, just cos he got voted by hammerbro doesn't mean he's killed him at night. I'm not saying he wouldn't kill steve but if you look at the bigger picture There are other people who would want these people dead too such as mophead for steve, liverbird for hammerbro (i explained last post), and hippo is linked to nearlly everyone by an FOS or vote.

Also, how SVH getting away with this! Votes no one on the first day managing to avoid any attention from anyone but doesn't pressure anyone either, then goes into day 2, and tries to turn everyone away onto laser before anyone can come on and say anything else so he has got away un-questioned again! FOS SVH

I am not going to explain myself AGAIN to someone who clearly does not read all the posts. So I will give you the following steps

Click on my profile name

Click on see posts by this member

Read my posts!!!



Idiot
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 04, 2008, 01:08:01 PM
The time limit is Midday Saturday UK time, if there is no lynching before then - so I think that's 9pm Sat night for us Aussies. another 72 hours or so .. I think  .. pretty tired as this :dummy:
sleeps at day and parties at night ..  :sleep:

Wes what I don't get is that you say 2 of your suspects are def mafia yet your not voting for any of them .. surely put the pressue on one of them as FOSing just keeps them hoping you'll change your mind plus it might also get someone backing them up trying to save them ..             

I'm def not sure who's evil so far .. I still think one of the other (if not both) aussie players are evil .. Footynewb is playing along like the first game and he was good .. TP is different but has said he's changing his playing strategy ..

Bluestars seems more good than evil

Mophead is harder to work out no matter what he is ..

Laserblue, Yorkshire, and Afroboy are quiet and not really making a big blip on my radar but don't make me think townie

Liverbird is non existant - mafia hiding or town hiding or Gollum ??.

Happy Axeman vs Hippo - throws doubt and makes me (and Wes it looks like) thinks one of you evil

Sir Hammer and SVH seem to start strong then disapear a bit .. but SVH at least voted early on day 2 and isn't still sitting on the preverbial fence

so far we have 1 vote for 4 people with 72 odd hours to go .. this has the potential for a very late swing

I was looking to vote for either TP or Liverbird but as I went to post I saw TCH's messages .. they do make it hard to make them out
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 04, 2008, 01:14:17 PM
My suspicions are clear, the mikeblue lynch was a surprise and very sudden so it has made me look closely.

Since I have BEEN AWAY (put in caps for Afroboy) most of the posts have gone back and forth between hippo and axeman which I have been reading carefully. I try not to post anything unless I have something to say.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 04, 2008, 01:15:59 PM
so what did that last post say?  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 04, 2008, 01:42:49 PM
I believe I was agreeing with you!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 04, 2008, 02:00:06 PM
The reason im still FOSing Laserblue is because on day one he sat on the fence with the vote no lynch and almost agreed with everyone, which to me is a sign of mafia.
The people im FOSing are:

Why are you lying about me ? on day one I did not sit on the fence It's a fact that I wound you up enough to vote for me.

It's also a fact I voted for mikeblue .... remember

why are you telling out & out lies about that saying I did not vote

You are a very bizarre person wes  :idiot2: :uglystupid2:

also how can you say hippo looks evil when he has been the one testing people & putting pressure on them ???

What the hell are you on ???

please respond to my post


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 04, 2008, 02:06:04 PM
sorry should have looked like this :blush:

The reason im still FOSing Laserblue is because on day one he sat on the fence with the vote no lynch and almost agreed with everyone, which to me is a sign of mafia. I still have my doubts over him and he may get my vote. Also the reason I FOS’s Bluestars was to see her reaction, TBH im not as sus of her anymore as I believe there is a more serious threat from Axeman and Hippo both seem good players at this game and are writing essays of stuff which tbh is throwing me abit, I’m not saying they are evil or good but its just slowing my vote down a little, one of them are bad but don’t know who, maybe they are the ring bearer who knows?.

The people im FOSing are:

Hippo - as it says above
Axeman - as it says above
Laser blue - mafia deffo
Yorkshire - deff evil as he’s trying to throw us from the last game, by playing the same way.


One of you will get my vote, not sure who

P.S. how long does this day last?


Why are you lying about me ? on day one I did not sit on the fence It's a fact that I wound you up enough to vote for me.

It's also a fact I voted for mikeblue .... remember

why are you telling out & out lies about that saying I did not vote

You are a very bizarre person wes   

also how can you say hippo looks evil when he has been the one testing people & putting pressure on them

What the hell are you on

please respond to my post


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 04, 2008, 02:28:48 PM
The reason im still FOSing Laserblue is because on day one he sat on the fence with the vote no lynch and almost agreed with everyone, which to me is a sign of mafia. I still have my doubts over him and he may get my vote. Also the reason I FOS’s Bluestars was to see her reaction, TBH im not as sus of her anymore as I believe there is a more serious threat from Axeman and Hippo both seem good players at this game and are writing essays of stuff which tbh is throwing me abit, I’m not saying they are evil or good but its just slowing my vote down a little, one of them are bad but don’t know who, maybe they are the ring bearer who knows?.

The people im FOSing are:

Hippo - as it says above
Axeman - as it says above
Laser blue - mafia deffo
Yorkshire - deff evil as he’s trying to throw us from the last game, by playing the same way.


One of you will get my vote, not sure who

P.S. how long does this day last?
playing the same way as the last game i got killed off the first day how can you say that im playing the same
also this is wes's second post on day two the first one saying he fosed bluestars and laser and was giving reasons later
well that took a long time wes trying to go along unoticed
how can you be so sure laser is mafia you must have a good reason
fosing axeman and hippo for writing long posts  :laugh:
sounds like you cant be bothered with this
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 04, 2008, 02:39:41 PM
also how can you say hippo looks evil when he has been the one testing people & putting pressure on them

This makes me feel a bit uneasy if i'm honest. Whilst i'm not actually evil, i don't think i've done anything as yet that should make anyone, without knowledge of who the evil people actually are, dismiss that possibility entirely. Nobody other than wes has, in my opinion, and it's him you're choosing to focus your attention on? Alright, defend yourself, because he has been pretty accusative of you throughout, but you seem to be trying to imply that he's questionable himself. We'd know by now if what he'd claimed wasn't true.

I don't think falling out with the only known innocent is something i trust.

So
unvote mophead
vote laserblue
(again)

I just haven't really believed anything you've said in this game.

Woah, and as i was typing this, yorkshire's doing it too. I'm not alone in thinking this is all very dodgy surely?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 04, 2008, 02:46:04 PM
how do you know he is the only known innocent and does that give him the right not to vote
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 04, 2008, 02:53:39 PM
how do you know he is the only known innocent and does that give him the right not to vote

He claimed mason on day one, and there've been no objections. So i wouldn't have thought he's lying. And there's a large number of people who haven't voted so far. I think there's only four votes been cast in fact?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 04, 2008, 04:01:19 PM
to Hippo


I asked him to come on & tell us why he has told deliberate lies about me

I have pointed those lies out

they are facts

he has not been on explained himself

what else am I expected to do .... just disappear of the board like others have?

I begining to think he is not innocent at all



 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 04, 2008, 04:35:18 PM
I begining to think he is not innocent at all

It makes absolutely no sense. Mason is the one role it's impossible to falsely claim if there are definitely masons in the game - which we know there are. I'm not saying somebody would have counter claimed, because that would have been stupid, but there'd certainly have been some doubts being thrown around (before now) at least.

The only conceivable way he could be evil, is if there's a cult. But there isn't, because of the way TCH has explicitly explained all of the possible outcomes of the game within the rules.

The out and out lies that you're claiming he's said, aren't lies at all:

on day one I did not sit on the fence It's a fact that I wound you up enough to vote for me.

It's also a fact I voted for mikeblue .... remember

why are you telling out & out lies about that saying I did not vote

I assume you're taking these points from the following quote from Wes:

The reason im still FOSing Laserblue is because on day one he sat on the fence with the vote no lynch

He says nothing like what you're claiming. I really don't follow your argument?

You're dodgy.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 04, 2008, 04:45:19 PM
Is it or is it not sitting on the fence about the no lynch debate??

You tell me?


can tommy please clarify whether we can vote no lynch in this game .. it's his game so he makes the rules I guess.

I think it's a good idea but if everyone just comes on & votes no lynch then we face day two in exactly the same position none the wiser but possibly two down ... I don't see how this helps the town.

Your votes make you look real sus wes
first you jump straight on the no votes idea & then you come on straight after hippo had voted yorkshire & vote for him ...
 
Having said that yorkshire has yet again managed to make himself look sus by non posting & when he does he doesn't say much, he did this last game ..got himself killed & turned out to be a townie .. if he does it again I'll be really pissed >:(

Hammer your one of the most experienced players on here.... so if you are good please come on & help .



I can see both sides of the vote & no vote argument ... only thing is I can't decide which is the wiser .... I just think that the no vote option gives the mafia an easy route into the next day.
I also think we should keep an eye on the players down under... as appearing to be involved in a  petty squabble gave miasg a pass into the later rounds last time.

This is an interesting Idea ... I never know who to vote for on day 1 & we nearly always lose a good guy  :hmmm:

I just thought though if no-one votes & fos anyone then we would start day two out no wiser than day one... except with probably less good players... unless the cop/investigater gets lucky ???

I hope peeps are going to get more involved this time.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 04, 2008, 05:11:22 PM
Axeman and Hippo both seem good players at this game and are writing essays of stuff which tbh is throwing me abit, I’m not saying they are evil or good but its just slowing my vote down a little, one of them are bad but don’t know who, maybe they are the ring bearer who knows?.

The people im FOSing are:

Hippo - as it says above
Axeman - as it says above
Laser blue - mafia deffo
Yorkshire - deff evil as he’s trying to throw us from the last game, by playing the same way.


One of you will get my vote, not sure who

P.S. how long does this day last?
ok so he is a mason
i just think he as a attitude in this game of ive claimed il just not post and not bother reading posts
this about hippo and axeman sounds like he cant be bothered reading there posts
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 04, 2008, 05:26:57 PM
Vote: Laserblue as im convinced that you are evil and are now looking very sus indeed, hippo has you trapped and i dont think youre going to get out of that hole you have dug yourself.

Yorkshire Blue you last post does not make much sence to me but if your not a mafia then you must be gollum as youre not playing the game any different to last time. Yes you turned out to be a townie, but the reason you got lynched is because you did not post a lot, so if you are still a townie, Why play the same way and put us townies under pressure, I carnt work that one out. You  are trying to play cool but we can see sweat coming from your head, you need to change tactic.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 04, 2008, 05:33:33 PM
 ::)dont post much if youdo a post count i have done twice as many as you
the last game i got lynched on the frist day why do you keep bringing this up
i hardly got into the game
svh seems to be going along unoticed just posting small posts which dont say alot
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 04, 2008, 06:02:03 PM
Im pretty convinced that yorkshire blue is evil....although last time i was wrong and killed a townie
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 04, 2008, 06:02:10 PM
::)dont post much if youdo a post count i have done twice as many as you
the last game i got lynched on the frist day why do you keep bringing this up
i hardly got into the game
svh seems to be going along unoticed just posting small posts which dont say alot

Now i have tryed to do this but carnt get on pages 2,4 and 12 for some reason??

but with out them your post count is 10 to my 11 but the pages that are missing i have posted alot.

Now you clearly say that you have posted TWICE as much as me.....THIS IS A LIE, why lie?? you need to look back before you say anthing as you will always get caught. and for the record you only posted the same amount in the first game 5 as you did in this game to my 24 posts  :D
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 04, 2008, 06:15:06 PM
ok then the first day you posted alot but why havent you posted as much the second day
takeaway the pointless posts and i would have more
Im pretty convinced that yorkshire blue is evil....although last time i was wrong and killed a townie

heres mophead with another small post no qoutes or reasons to why im evil
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 04, 2008, 06:18:58 PM
Yorkshire your trapped you cant get out...we have all of the facts to back it up.

VOTE YORKSHIREE BLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 04, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
wheres all the facts ???
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 04, 2008, 06:28:30 PM
If you said no-lynch was a good idea then that really means you were just trying to get to the night phase.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 04, 2008, 06:36:17 PM
UNVOTE Laserblue

my reason is since i voted for him, the next posts has give me real concern and im going to look more into who im voting for.  :-\
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 04, 2008, 06:37:11 PM
If you said no-lynch was a good idea then that really means you were just trying to get to the night phase.
:laugh: what are you on about
vote mophead lying trying to get a bandwaggon going and showing no real evidence for voting me
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 04, 2008, 06:47:47 PM
:laugh: what are you on about
vote mophead lying trying to get a bandwaggon going and showing no real evidence for voting me

mophead you need facts matey, where are they?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 04, 2008, 06:53:02 PM
If you said no-lynch was a good idea then that really means you were just trying to get to the night phase.

whats the point in a no lynch were just wont get anywhere
apart from lose townies through the night
but the first lynch is lucky and usually ends up good

Vote Mophead sorry mate but your last post is so suss to me, please explain yourself as you have my vote till you change my mind.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 04, 2008, 06:58:27 PM
Stop trying to deffend yourself.....you are stuck
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 04, 2008, 06:59:37 PM
At the beggining yorkshire was fine with no-lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 04, 2008, 07:02:34 PM
 :2funny: what are you on about mophead
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on June 04, 2008, 07:25:17 PM
What in the hell is mophead doing!!! His posts make no sense at all!
I am left with no other choice at all but to Vote Mophead

As for yorkshire, I think he is coming into the game more now so my initial suspicion yesterday that was stopped by axemans idea to leave the non-posters for a day might have been a good move but who knows.

And SVH I will not let you rest easy just cos you call me an idiot.

I explained and apologised in the lounge thread that I didnt realise the deadline was 11am at which time I was actually working and I played football friday night so I didnt get around to voting.
 
Okay, okay, a bit sloppy for an experienced player but just about acceptable

But the post before this makes it unacceptable..
Look the timing of these votes. Mikeblue only had one vote from SirHammer which was pages ago but right out of the blue towards the end of the game he gets two votes which lead to his lynching. Its right before the deadline and within an hour of each other, looks very dodgy to me. FOS on both unless they can explain this sudden voting surge.
 

You would have still been making a vote very late on in the game like those people who you are FOSing, a bit hypocritical and dodgy I’d say.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 04, 2008, 08:01:01 PM
You totally missed the point. One of them changed their votes and the other voted for mikeblue within an hour of each other meaning Mikeblue went from nowhere near lynching to being lynched. That to me is suspicious
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 04, 2008, 08:08:32 PM
Right okay, i'm confused about what's happening here. It's kind of hard to follow.

Mophead, you have some talking to do. What this evidence that Yorkshire can't possibly get out of? And why are you also making false statements about him?

You totally missed the point. One of them changed their votes and the other voted for mikeblue within an hour of each other meaning Mikeblue went from nowhere near lynching to being lynched. That to me is suspicious

In fairness, footy newb has explained his part as many times as you've explained why you didn't vote. He was one of the one's who would have been lynched himself, had he not changed it - and it was a choice between Ryals and mikey b. The most suspicious thing with regards to him though, is the fact that he only posts when mentioned. Other than that - no contribution.

Laserblue was the other one though wasn't he. I'm pretty convinced he's guilty.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 04, 2008, 08:30:39 PM
I fos mike several hours before i voted.... while he was online... stating why I thought he was evil.... he did not respond but voted stevenryals instead... the reason he gave for voting was that steven had not put pressure on people that is obviously not true only he knows why he said that? ......thats why I voted for him..

when I voted for mike he only had one vote making that 2 it was not my vote that sent him for an automatic lynch, that vote was made several hours after mine...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 04, 2008, 08:33:22 PM
No it wasnt, it was an hour later.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 04, 2008, 08:45:32 PM
what I'm saying is that my vote did not send mikeblue to an automatic lynch & I had made a very valid reason for it.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 04, 2008, 09:27:50 PM
Ohhhhhh....wait nevermind...that was hammerbro that voted no lynch. sorry drop that
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on June 04, 2008, 09:56:46 PM
Ohhhhhh....wait nevermind...that was hammerbro that voted no lynch. sorry drop that

Yet you still don't unvote ??? very strange

And how can u make such a big mistake, in fact yorkshire went against it in his first post of the day

whats the point in a no lynch were just wont get anywhere
apart from lose townies through the night
but the first lynch is lucky and usually ends up good

SVH I still believe it was dodgy because you say that it was cos they made vital decisions but your decision might also have been vital. For example laserblue vote mikeblue and it wouldn't have killed him but then footynewb votes him, I'm not saying it wasn't a bad move, in my point of view mikeblue looked mostly town to me but you say you wouldn't make the same decision but even if you made a different one, because it would have been so late it could still have been crucial. Also I brought this up because I thought you and laserblue both sat back waaay too much till the end.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 04, 2008, 09:59:57 PM
First i thouught it was laser then yorkshire then i found out it was hammerbro.
UNVOTE YORKSHIRE BLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 04, 2008, 10:06:06 PM
Sorry about that big mix up with names and no-lynch.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on June 04, 2008, 11:01:47 PM
Well you clearly felt pressured enough to react; MIASG did; Bluestars did. These are just the ones in the last 24 hours. If you're saying what i'm doing ISN'T putting pressure on people, then that's a bit ridiculous isn't it? And i don't think anyone else would agree with you on that.
no you got the wrong end of the stick, I have said you are good for the town by the way you can be aggressive, but in the same context sometimes you just dont know when to drop it even though the facts are right in front of you.
what i'm saying isnt putting pressure on people was the way you were voting one post, then a couple later voting another... like i have said this is not something i trust. But yes I am the same, I find myself chuckling and I wouldnt use all my valuble time playing these games if i didnt find them fun would i? lol

It makes absolutely no sense. Mason is the one role it's impossible to falsely claim if there are definitely masons in the game - which we know there are. I'm not saying somebody would have counter claimed, because that would have been stupid, but there'd certainly have been some doubts being thrown around (before now) at least.
People are throwing doubts about wes though arnt they? and correct me if i'm wrong but i think it started in day 1. ???
We cant trust wes's admission, if he is mason then surely this marks him as a possible hobbit(Masons A sam/frodo, Masons B Merry/Pippin) and he would of been taken out by gollum? hence why i wouldnt want to counter claim or claim to have a mason role in this game.
But in the same context i dont want to be the townie that votes him off just in case!


and whats this crap about me vs hippo? we have just tried to see what each other is about, which is the whole point of the game. I would much rather read 1 post with lots of facts and findings rather than millions of 1 sentence posts one after the other.

Mophead is very strange. He obviously isnt following the game properly, and like the last game he cost the town the win when it was clear as day... all he had to do was read what was going on. He is possibly evil, but is deffinatly 100% a liabilty.

Laserblue is coming on my radar a lot more, Something isnt right about him. I'll just have to keep studying his actions... and then Trickpony...

my thoughts are currently telling me that I have 3 options.
Laser, Mophead, Trickpony
UNVOTE HIPPO
VOTE MOPHEAD
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 05, 2008, 12:28:28 AM
The Vote count is as following.

Mophead    4 Votes
LaserBlue   2 Votes
Liverbird    1 Vote


yet to Vote, BLuestars, Footballnewb, Laserblue, Liverbird, miasg, Mophead and Trick Pony

The deadline for Day Two is Midday Saturday UK time.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 05, 2008, 02:37:33 AM
Mopheads actions certainly seem dodgy enough .. he talks about the evidence and people being backed into a corner .. he's the next in on the bandwagon .. I can understand the mix up with yorkshire and laserblue since they both have the same pic icon under there name ( I too sometimes have to double check when they respond so close together) but it being Hammerbro who was already voted out .. I think someone isn't worried who is left in the game and is looking to get to a night phase.

VOTE MOPHEAD - if your not evil mophead you have sure painted yourself that way to me.  Enough of us have reminded you to read all the posts and it appears you still not.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 05, 2008, 02:39:34 AM
after re-reading your posts mophead I'm starting to think your not mafia but infact the serial killer  :guns: .  Your just going along your merry way and jumping in backing someone up when it suits.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 05, 2008, 09:37:35 AM
The Vote count is as following.

Mophead    5 Votes
LaserBlue   2 Votes
Liverbird    1 Vote


yet to Vote, BLuestars, Footballnewb, Laserblue, Liverbird, Mophead and Trick Pony

The deadline for Day Two is Midday Saturday UK time.

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Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 05, 2008, 09:44:31 AM
Personally I dont think that those who are in daily contact with each other should post about anything that doesnt happen within the thread as I would be inclined to believe Steveryals about mophead being evil just because of the way he acts around the house but this gives the town an unfair advantage.

Mophead is an enigma. Hes a nutcase in every game so you cant tell if he is actually evil or not!  :o


Bluestars, cut down on his sugar intake!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 05, 2008, 10:19:45 AM
This is a game where most of us can only prove useful in the daytime, myself included. I find it suspicious that certain people would want the day to end for various reasons such as "this day is getting boring", " we don't know anything" and so on. For me the night is the most boring part since I cant do anything. This is why I always suspect people who cant be bothered to read peoples posts.

Myself, laserblue and Footballnewb all voted for Mikeblue and he was town. I voted for him days before, and at the time believed I had a good reason to. Laserblue to me is the most suspicious since I think its slightly suspect the way he has tried to befriend myself and Hippo at various times. Perhaps he thinks we are the most likely to sniff him out, so he tried to flatter us?

Unvote:Liverbird
since its going nowhere, and Vote;Laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 05, 2008, 10:41:02 AM
2 things that get me hammer is your statement
I find it suspicious that certain people would want the day to end for various reasons such as "this day is getting boring", " we don't know anything" and so on. For me the night is the most boring part since I cant do anything. This is why I always suspect people who cant be bothered to read peoples posts.

yet you change your vote as it's going no where and to a person who's 2nd on the list.

Unvote:Liverbird
since its going nowhere, and Vote;Laserblue
  why couldn't your vote for liverbird stand ?  she still hasn't come on .. your vote has no taken her off 2nd and put laserblue up ... surely your vote for the 2nd placed suspect ment something ?

the 2nd is your reasons to suspect laserblue of befriending you and hippo .. who said you were both townies? maybe he believes you both to be.  I would have thought if he were evil he'd be siding with one of you to try to knock the other one out and not befriend you.

In all this I'm not trying to protect laserblue I just question your ways of voting for him.  he's still in limbo for me.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 05, 2008, 11:08:51 AM
the 2nd is your reasons to suspect laserblue of befriending you and hippo .. who said you were both townies? maybe he believes you both to be.  I would have thought if he were evil he'd be siding with one of you to try to knock the other one out and not befriend you.

From my perspective, i think laser's move was very calculated. I'd been accusing a few people, making them put themselves out there, so that myself and everybody else could get a better look at their gameplay and make an educated guess about their alignment. He took the opportunity to defend me, i think, to try and deter me from doing the same to him. I think he has something to hide.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 05, 2008, 11:18:05 AM
A two horse race at the moment

Mophead    5 Votes
LaserBlue   3 Votes



yet to Vote, BLuestars, Footballnewb, Laserblue, Liverbird, Mophead and Trick Pony

The deadline for Day Two is Midday Saturday UK time.

8 votes are required to cause a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 05, 2008, 11:50:02 AM
I think that Laser is evil but I get the feeling that Mophead is going to the gallows tonight.

Regardless I am staying with my vote
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 05, 2008, 12:29:29 PM
I heard that Trick Pony might be intrastate right now so he may not be able to post .. TCH as his boss can you confirm this?  I would have thought he'd tell us if this was the case. 

Axeman whats your beef with mophead - that's how's he's played this game good and evil  :bleh: 

now in my opinion the people hiding seem to be (now don't get shitty with me it's just my view)

FootballNewb
Liverbird
Trick Pony
Yorkshire Blue
and Wesmancity who said   .. and I'm are still waiting Wes to know why

Hippo you seem content to go at people for a few posts and get off and jump on someone else .. why haven't you really had a go at these non-posters?  just becuase they don't blip on your radar?  Footynewb always seems to be around to answer to a vote or fos against him - but not any other time ...
Wes and Yorkshire hardly seem to post and don't say much.   Liverbird might have forgotten she's playing this game .. or she's being quiet for a reason.
Who is playing the game completely different from any game before ??  Trick Pony - he says he's just avoiding me but he's also avoiding the game.  He's had some important town roles before and that didn't stop him from posting.  FOS TrickPony and the other NON-Posters.

Well i just got back from my across State "WORK TRIP" and have caught up to this point so far, everything else seems to be getting repeated, although I get accused of focusing on one person at a time instead of everyone at once but that seems to get confusing remembering who said what all the time. 

Anyway I cant believe that after all the usless crap that I was acused of saying being irrelevant that Bluestars, hippo, mophead, and FootballNewb are doing the same thing, mostly repeating stuff they have already said.

I have found this the most interesting choice of wording in the game so far from MIASG being FOS TrickPony and the other NON-Posters.  now why would a townie post in such a way to possibly cause a bandwagon ? I believe you are the serial killer MIASG and though you have been the serial killer last game there is still the 1/14th chance of you getting it again, as no one else seems to even be close at relating to the role. So FOS MIASG for now until i read the rest of the posts. 

And FootballNewb stop hiding I can see you online at the moment and only replying when your either voted for as already pointed out or when you target someone... Im still not convinced about your last minute vote change either which caused the lynch, fair enough you could have saved your own skin but now we have no doctor.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 05, 2008, 12:39:40 PM
F.A.O Mopead, can you please give us any reason to why we should'nt vote for you, I dont want another Townie dead and you have not deffended yourself properly have you since  the vote's started coming. there is'nt much time for you left and i think you need to come out and explain to us whats going on in that head of yours.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 05, 2008, 12:48:21 PM
TP I didn't start a bandwagon on you I simply said I'm very suss on you for playing 100% different to the last games .. and I only FOS'd you and the other non-posters so that's hardly a bandwagon.  As also said in a later post I heard that you were intrastate and that's possibly why your not around and I asked TCH to confirm this .. does this sound like a bandwagon ?  I find it funny that you think I'm the serial killer as I was 2 games a go .. what make you think that?  because you know I'm not mafia   

If mophead comes on and saves himself then my vote will go on you :clown: aka Trick Pony
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on June 05, 2008, 12:59:46 PM
VOTE TrickPony because I can...
Still posting mindless dribble... my suspicions still stand...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 05, 2008, 01:46:54 PM
TP I didn't start a bandwagon on you I simply said I'm very suss on you for playing 100% different to the last games .. and I only FOS'd you and the other non-posters so that's hardly a bandwagon.  As also said in a later post I heard that you were intrastate and that's possibly why your not around and I asked TCH to confirm this .. does this sound like a bandwagon ?  I find it funny that you think I'm the serial killer as I was 2 games a go .. what make you think that?  because you know I'm not mafia   

If mophead comes on and saves himself then my vote will go on you :clown: aka Trick Pony

I know you didnt start a band wagon on me as i have no votes, though it sure looks like you were trying from where im sitting. Though I did read your post talking about me being away so I kinda understand where you are coming from though when I really think about it if you were the serial killer you would have killed me the first chance you got ie night one so it cant be you  :'(

You also keep hinting your not mafia though you have been really quiet for someone with alot of time on your hands, its hard to say as your playing really different to the past few games when you have been mafia and serial killer so either your playing with us or your just a townie, though I still cant believe a word you have to say  :bleh:

Also I have changed my playing style since I kept getting killed in the early days of this fn game which stevenryals would be feeling right about now... anyway your only in the FOS list atm im not convinced of the bandwagons happening at the moment the first  votes on laser and mop seem ok from how I interpreted them though the rest seem to eager to lynch, I know how important the votes are so I will decide after having both defend themselfves hopefully before I get to work tomorrow. Though not sure if I will have time as TCH and MIASG are both off work tomorrow and I have a sh@t load of stuff to catch up on since my trip this week. 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 05, 2008, 01:57:08 PM
sorry been really busy at work, I'm the paycheck lady so everyone's after me for money.

I've read most of the pages to catch up.

I don't have a clue about mophead either....seems he got confused about yorkshireblue vs. laserblue I guess...still not sure that is even the case...I couldn't figure it out either. I'm however not really sure he's evil or just confused by the excessive amounts of posts there are to read this game.

I'll get back on and respond in a few, but I am still very disappointed Liverbird and a few others are now at the very last moment either not posting or not even attempting to say much....but someones posting while I am so...we'll see.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 05, 2008, 02:53:23 PM
VOTE TrickPony because I can...
Still posting mindless dribble... my suspicions still stand...

FootballNewb stop waising our time having to read your garbage one liners and comment on everyone in the game it seems your targeting me just so you dont provoke everyone else like MIASG has done in previous games, this makes you look guilty mate so I propose you list everyone and comment your thoughts on them one at a time, stop fence sitting its getting boring, also I will post tomorrow a comment next to everyone in the game so everyone has a chance to provide feedback on my thoughts and to clear up anything prior to the end of the day, im sure FootballNewb or MIASG are evil though FBN is my who id put my money on at the moment. Hes been able to post all week and only a here and there post coming from him with no substance, Also to the other quiet players please post a bit more to keep things interesting... so until tomorrow
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 05, 2008, 07:39:19 PM
FootballNewb stop waising our time having to read your garbage one liners and comment on everyone in the game it seems your targeting me just so you dont provoke everyone else like MIASG has done in previous games, this makes you look guilty mate so I propose you list everyone and comment your thoughts on them one at a time, stop fence sitting its getting boring, also I will post tomorrow a comment next to everyone in the game so everyone has a chance to provide feedback on my thoughts and to clear up anything prior to the end of the day, im sure FootballNewb or MIASG are evil though FBN is my who id put my money on at the moment. Hes been able to post all week and only a here and there post coming from him with no substance, Also to the other quiet players please post a bit more to keep things interesting... so until tomorrow
you three are getting boring just saying each other is guilty because you work together
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 05, 2008, 08:17:20 PM
vote masterzulu ..... I think he's been hiding ?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 05, 2008, 08:57:44 PM
Do you think it's a sign of desperation when people start making up players to vote for?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on June 05, 2008, 10:57:29 PM
BLuestars, Laserblue, Liverbird, Mophead and Trick Pony

why have none of you voted just to show where your thoughts lie? a FOS is a waste of time, it doesnt do anything. without votes backing your findings up, theres no point to your posts.

Not much hasnt happened since i was last on, and we still have no Liverbird.  :-\

I think it strange that Laser is also up for lynch, and hasnt voted mophead? and likewise Mophead hasnt voted Laserblue? I know i certainly would to save my own skin(just like Footynewb did I suppose), but i wouldnt wait till the last minute to put the nail in the coffin, which is what it looks like Laserblue or Mophead is going to do...
Could they both be mafia, in fact looking at the peeps not voted yet, all three of my suspects are there!

both are on my list of peeps to vote for today, but I'm feeling a bit uneasy with the people on the vote list for Mophead.

Afroboy is doing his usual mafia style play by agreeing with peeps all the time, Afroboys vote on Mophead is one of the reasons I will now change it..

UNVOTE MOPHEAD
VOTE LASERBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 05, 2008, 11:03:39 PM
now it's even at the top

Mophead    4 Votes
LaserBlue   4 Votes
Trick Pony  1 Vote


yet to Vote, BLuestars, Laserblue, Liverbird, Mophead and Trick Pony

The deadline for Day Two is Midday Saturday UK time.

8 votes are required to cause a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 06, 2008, 12:22:08 AM
Actually I've been holding on my vote truly to see if any of these "hardly" posters would come out since I last posted and for about 10 pages it seemed to be just about mainly Axeman, Hippo, Miasg and myself posting.

That being said....feel bad I think laserblue is really making it quite hard at this point...voting for masterzulu...seems that is obviously a mistake...and couple that with the fact that he was on the voting for mikeblue...although ...in itself alone that wasn't making me vote for him...because that lynch had very few votes in a game of 14 players.

Not to mention Wes is altogether convinced of his evilness since day one...which seems he still hasn't answered ANY of my questions as to how he'd know this or any real evidence....and yet claims to be mason...and no one else but Axeman and myself I think still question that at all....I'm VERY uncomfortable with those voting on here right now for laserblue...but my choices are to go with my hunches on someone with little evidence...or go for a vote on someone that appears to have slipped up and having voted off a townie.

At this point...I will not pile on a vote for laserblue until he speaks for himself...the masterzulu bit really needs an explanation. However, it is not looking good.

Off to dinner log back on tomorrow.




Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 06, 2008, 12:24:11 AM
as I said I'm voting for mophead until he comes on and convinces me that he's not evil.  His lack of response could be due to the fact that he's assuming hi mafia mates will save him .. he's just had 1 unvote axeman that went onto the 2nd place person .. and you think they are both suss for not voting for each other .. why does afroboys vote make the difference for you ?

and yorkshire are you trying to tell one of TP, FBN, or myself to settle down and get out of a tangled web ?  just because when I'm at work I work with them doesn't mean they are/aren't a target.  I've tried to stay away from TP but he's looking non townie to me .. FBN is so quiet any posts from me is to get him out posting more so i can assertain what he might be .. that shouldn't be a problem .. sometimes in there haste you get one back at you they make mistakes .. so instead of telling us to ignore each other maybe .. just maybe it will root out an evil player.  
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 06, 2008, 12:31:23 AM
Not to mention Wes is altogether convinced of his evilness since day one...which seems he still hasn't answered ANY of my questions as to how he'd know this or any real evidence....and yet claims to be mason...and no one else but Axeman and myself I think still question that at all....

The problem with Wes saying he's a mason that it's now obvious the hobbits are 2 mason groups - he would have been kept alive to find his partner .. if anyone else comes out and claims mason then they are a big target .. if Wes isn't a mason at all then it's probably a masterstroke of gameplay as we still have 6 days to get the ring to Modor but my guess is that they'll save wes for a while as he's a sure bet later to kill and possibly root out another mason for the mafia. 

once again MASONS please do not ROLE claim as other townies can only survive 1 night with the ring if we end up with it..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 06, 2008, 03:04:03 AM
Ok so here are my current thoughts on ALL PLAYERS, so have a look and lets get some focus this time instead of lynching another townie so we get this vote right. I don't think the current votes are really being thought about as everyone seems to interested in finishing the day which seems like an obvoius mafia move so lets go over every player before the end of the day to make sure we are all confident with who we lynch.

FBN and liverbird id love to see your list so everyone can comment as well as your to quiet for comfort.

NOTE : mafia - townie %

AfroBoy - possibly mafia at this stage im 50-50 on him at the moment. Nothing substantial to say from his posts.
Bluestars - 10-90 possible mason probably a Hobbit / gandolf
FootballNewb - 50-50 either a mason or mafia godfather, he doesn't say enough to get anything else out of his posts. possibly mason group A?
Hammerbro - Dead - Hammerbros body is lost in the rockfall, you morn his loss as he was Faramir and a Townie
Happy Axeman - 50-50 not sure on axeman, he plays a clever game not giving any character hints in any game, possible serial killer though as he is very through in his though process from the way he is posting.
Hippo - 70-30 mafia to townie though possible serial killer as well. to quiet to tell in regards to trying to investigate players.
LaserBlue - 30-70 mason group B or reg townie at this stage.
Liverbird - MIA so probably maifa probably to obvious to be the godfather at this stage, though some input would be good ...
Miasg - normal townie possible (mason) - Pippen ? - though he claimed
MikeBlue - Dead - MikeBlue unfortunately turns out to be Strider/Aragorn and the Doctor
Mophead -  defiantly mafia at this stage though hes irrational at times so he makes it hard to tell.
Sir Hammer - have no idea so 50-50. Ill read over his posts to get a better idea about him.
Stevenryals - Dead - Merry was Stevenryals and part of the Mason group B so another townie has been killed and a hobbit as well. Pippen 
SVH - same as hammer I have no idea so 50-50. Ill read over his posts to get a better idea about him as well.
Trick Pony - reg townie no powers - yes FBN thats a fact so either believe me or get over it and leave your vote on me, nothings personal your just doing a safety vote in my opinion so you dont provoke any one elses attention, though I still believe your
Wesmancity - 10-90 mason group A?
Yorkshire Blue - 50-50 possible mafia / serial killer / reg townie.

Also from above the players with townie next to them could also have a special role im just not sure who would have what as no one stands out, though im sure TCH has a roleblocker, investigator, doctor already dead, and possible bullet proof townie though least likely of them all at this stage.

Anyway im up the coast again this weekend but I should be on tomorrow morning giving everyone enough time to post a response for me to consider current opinions.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 06, 2008, 03:08:18 AM
i got interupted and forgot to finish one part:

Trick Pony - reg townie no powers - yes FBN thats a fact so either believe me or get over it and leave your vote on me, nothings personal your just doing a safety vote in my opinion so you dont provoke any one elses attention, though I still believe your a mason at this stage.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 06, 2008, 10:46:58 AM

Not to mention Wes is altogether convinced of his evilness since day one...which seems he still hasn't answered ANY of my questions as to how he'd know this or any real evidence....

Bluestars, why havnt read any of my posts re: Laserblue??, i have said why i think hes evil twice before but still you are saying that i havent explained my reasons. Go back and read my posts then you will find the answer. And if you havnt seemed to grasp that its not only me that thinks he's evil aswell, hes had 3 other votes aswell.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 06, 2008, 11:55:44 AM
Hippo - 70-30 mafia to townie though possible serial killer as well. to quiet to tell in regards to trying to investigate players.

Sorry, but that's a ridiculous statement. Fair enough if you've read my posts and decided i might be evil - poor judgment maybe, but people never seem to trust me, so i'd accept it. But you clearly haven't read my posts if you think that i've been too quiet in trying to find out about players. I've been the most vocal if anything. How much of the game have you read? And if all of it, why are you trying to lie in order to incriminate me?

I don't think the current votes are really being thought about as everyone seems to interested in finishing the day which seems like an obvoius mafia move

Mophead -  defiantly mafia at this stage though hes irrational at times so he makes it hard to tell.

So you don't think the current votes are thought through, but you do think the person currently co-leading the lynch race is mafia? So what isn't thought through? Essentially, what you've posted is an out and out defense of laserblue isn't it?

I was one of the main voices in pointing out his errors and suspiciousness, so you've stated that i'm probably mafia, and that he's part of mason group B. You're not part of mason group B yourself, because Stevenryals was the other (who incidentally, you voted for), so how would you possibly be in a position to make that statement? It's an utterly nonsensical attempt at diverting the attention away from laserblue, who i can only conclude is your mafia friend.

Now, if you've got an actual response, rather than just lying about me, i'd like to hear it.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 06, 2008, 12:51:40 PM
Miasg - normal townie possible (mason) - Pippen ? - though he claimed

Stevenryals - Dead - Merry was Stevenryals and part of the Mason group B so another townie has been killed and a hobbit as well. Pippen 


Pippen claimed ?  how - only when he died did I know that StevenRyals was Pippen.  As I've said I'm normal townie not a mason.

You've pretty much said everyone is townie or mafia/serial killer (so hedging your bets) in every case except Bluestars and laserblue who you have claimed probably townie, gandolf, or hobbit-mason ..  I'm sorry but they are both 50-50 to me so I can't see why you think they are more townie than me or some others. 

Now I'm not sure to switch my vote from mophead to Trick Pony .. you seem certain that mophead is mafia .. or maybe switch to laserblue who I'm thinking is a mafia buddy .. seeing the vote count I'm going to switch to UNVOTE MOPHEAD and VOTE LASERBLUE  on my assumption that laserblue is TP's mafia buddy.. to be honest I wouldn't be surprised to find Trick Pony, Laserblue, and mophead all mafia.  Actually on relection i'll unvote laserblue now and vote Trick Pony as I don't want to potentially condem someone on what you've said and I think your mafia 100%
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 06, 2008, 01:30:58 PM
Trick Ponys post is essentially gibberish. People having a 50-50 chance of being Mafia/Town/Serial Killer

He doesnt think that the current votes are really being thought about, and everyone seems to want to end the day. This is an obvious mafia move, he claims. Currently about 9 people have voted, and he is saying therefore that everyone is using an obvious mafia move.

Ok so here are my current thoughts on ALL PLAYERS, so have a look and lets get some focus this time instead of lynching another townie so we get this vote right. I don't think the current votes are really being thought about as everyone seems to interested in finishing the day which seems like an obvoius mafia move so lets go over every player before the end of the day to make sure we are all confident with who we lynch.

FBN and liverbird id love to see your list so everyone can comment as well as your to quiet for comfort.

NOTE : mafia - townie %

AfroBoy - possibly mafia at this stage im 50-50 on him at the moment. Nothing substantial to say from his posts.
Bluestars - 10-90 possible mason probably a Hobbit / gandolf
FootballNewb - 50-50 either a mason or mafia godfather, he doesn't say enough to get anything else out of his posts. possibly mason group A?
Hammerbro - Dead - Hammerbros body is lost in the rockfall, you morn his loss as he was Faramir and a Townie
Happy Axeman - 50-50 not sure on axeman, he plays a clever game not giving any character hints in any game, possible serial killer though as he is very through in his though process from the way he is posting.
Hippo - 70-30 mafia to townie though possible serial killer as well. to quiet to tell in regards to trying to investigate players.
LaserBlue - 30-70 mason group B or reg townie at this stage.
Liverbird - MIA so probably maifa probably to obvious to be the godfather at this stage, though some input would be good ...
Miasg - normal townie possible (mason) - Pippen ? - though he claimed
MikeBlue - Dead - MikeBlue unfortunately turns out to be Strider/Aragorn and the Doctor
Mophead -  defiantly mafia at this stage though hes irrational at times so he makes it hard to tell.
Sir Hammer - have no idea so 50-50. Ill read over his posts to get a better idea about him.
Stevenryals - Dead - Merry was Stevenryals and part of the Mason group B so another townie has been killed and a hobbit as well. Pippen 
SVH - same as hammer I have no idea so 50-50. Ill read over his posts to get a better idea about him as well.
Trick Pony - reg townie no powers - yes FBN thats a fact so either believe me or get over it and leave your vote on me, nothings personal your just doing a safety vote in my opinion so you dont provoke any one elses attention, though I still believe your
Wesmancity - 10-90 mason group A?
Yorkshire Blue - 50-50 possible mafia / serial killer / reg townie.

Also from above the players with townie next to them could also have a special role im just not sure who would have what as no one stands out, though im sure TCH has a roleblocker, investigator, doctor already dead, and possible bullet proof townie though least likely of them all at this stage.

Anyway im up the coast again this weekend but I should be on tomorrow morning giving everyone enough time to post a response for me to consider current opinions.

His comments on Hippo are strange, as are his on Axeman and I have no idea why he is speculating as to who he thinks are the hobbits. They need to stay as unknown and safe as possible. We have already lost one, and one suspected hobbit out in the open.

A blatant attempt to cover Laserblue as well with no reason why he thinks hes innocent, and again no substance of a reason on why he is certain Mophead is mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 06, 2008, 01:34:36 PM
2 things that get me hammer is your statement
yet you change your vote as it's going no where and to a person who's 2nd on the list.  why couldn't your vote for liverbird stand ?  she still hasn't come on .. your vote has no taken her off 2nd and put laserblue up ... surely your vote for the 2nd placed suspect ment something ?

the 2nd is your reasons to suspect laserblue of befriending you and hippo .. who said you were both townies? maybe he believes you both to be.  I would have thought if he were evil he'd be siding with one of you to try to knock the other one out and not befriend you.

In all this I'm not trying to protect laserblue I just question your ways of voting for him.  he's still in limbo for me.

In response to this, my vote on Liverbird was meant to try and put pressure on her to post, but if shes not reading the posts or understands the game then theres no point in her playing, or me wasting my time trying.

Your 2nd point, maybe he does believe us both to be townies, however i'm only certain on myself, and maybe he would try to play us of against each other, we dont know thats just how i interpreted it.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 06, 2008, 01:38:13 PM
Trick Ponys post is essentially gibberish. People having a 50-50 chance of being Mafia/Town/Serial Killer

He doesnt think that the current votes are really being thought about, and everyone seems to want to end the day. This is an obvious mafia move, he claims. Currently about 9 people have voted, and he is saying therefore that everyone is using an obvious mafia move.

His comments on Hippo are strange, as are his on Axeman and I have no idea why he is speculating as to who he thinks are the hobbits. They need to stay as unknown and safe as possible. We have already lost one, and one suspected hobbit out in the open.

A blatant attempt to cover Laserblue as well with no reason why he thinks hes innocent, and again no substance of a reason on why he is certain Mophead is mafia.

To continue my theory is that TP and Mophead are in a mafia together. By standing up for Laserblue, when Laserblue is lynched and turns up innocent (if he is) then TP can have a free pass. Likewise if its Mophead that goes then he can similarily claim that he was a main man  in a mafia lynching. Not certain right now but enough for me to Unvote:laserblue at the moment until TP and Mophead answer me
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 06, 2008, 01:45:55 PM
Bluestars, why havnt read any of my posts re: Laserblue??, i have said why i think hes evil twice before but still you are saying that i havent explained my reasons. Go back and read my posts then you will find the answer. And if you havnt seemed to grasp that its not only me that thinks he's evil aswell, hes had 3 other votes aswell.

Actually I'm sorry I must apologize you did finally explain your vote, just so many freaking posts I'll be honest I missed it, but have gone back and reread all the posts now.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 06, 2008, 01:57:25 PM
ok about 22 hours to go till the deadline, the vote count is currently

LaserBlue   4 Votes
Mophead    3 Votes
Trick Pony  2 Votes



yet to Vote, BLuestars, Laserblue, Liverbird, Mophead and Trick Pony

The deadline for Day Two is Midday Saturday UK time.

8 votes are required to cause a lynch


Hammer you did not bold your unvote, so it's not counted yet
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 06, 2008, 02:01:59 PM
AfroBoy         vote mophead         18

Bluestars         yet to vote
         
FootballNewb      vote trickpony         19

Happy Axeman      vote laserblue         19

Hippo         vote laserblue         17

LaserBlue         vote masterzulu         19

Liverbird         yet to vote...actually TCH do you know if she's back in town?
         
Miasg         vote trick pony         20

Mophead         yet to vote
         
Sir Hammer      vote laserblue         18

SVH         Vote Laserblue         13

Trick Pony      yet to vote
            
Wesmancity      VOTE mophead         18

Yorkshire Blue      VOTE mophead         17

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 06, 2008, 02:08:03 PM
no i don't, i have pm'd her again and Mike was going to call her, though hopefully she will appear soon.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 06, 2008, 02:09:12 PM
UNvote:laserblue


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 06, 2008, 02:15:32 PM
just tidying bluestars work up a bit (not a complaint)

AfroBoy         vote mophead         18
Wesmancity      VOTE mophead         18
Yorkshire Blue      VOTE mophead         17

Miasg         vote trick pony         20         
FootballNewb      vote trickpony         19

Happy Axeman      vote laserblue         19
Hippo         vote laserblue         17
Sir Hammer      vote laserblue         18
SVH         Vote Laserblue         13

LaserBlue      vote masterzulu         19

Liverbird      yet to vote
Mophead      yet to vote
Bluestars      yet to vote         
Trick Pony   yet to vote

2 of the yet to votes have hardly been on if on at all day 2 .. and bluestars and trick pony say they've been busy ..

laserblue that vote for masterzulu stands out as being strange ..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 06, 2008, 02:19:28 PM
VOTE LASERBLUE

Alright...I've watched this game develop over the many posts at this point and do not like to simply jump on and rush a vote. I feel I've thought this through over and over in my head and put together as many of the pieces as I can.

Miasg and Footballnewb...I see your votes for Trickpony...and Hippo your concerns over him...I agree some of his postings made me nervous as it did appear odd to defend certain ones on that list...however that being said...to place a vote on him for simply defending another player at this point...even though I might be able to see your points...I can't vote that way this time.

Laserblue...I've had to think of a few things...first off you are an experienced player...you really are one of the best players most times in these games. You always play with a cool head so it's very hard to read you to be honest.

That being said...I think that is what makes it hard for me and why I didn't want to rush a vote. However, sometimes you simply have to put all the pieces together and see where it falls.

For me the evidence on laserblue is simply more than the evidence I could see in my mind of other players at this point in the game.

1) voted for mikeblue to be lynched....well that in itself would not be a single determining factor for me...but it quite simply is a fact. He was townie and was lynched and was the doctor which is a powerful role the town needed. so...not good.

2) votes for masterzulu....well this is just off the wall and I thought maybe you might have drank some mophead brain soup for lunch and lost your mind...but you have not posted again and simply...well that speaks alot to me.

3) Not voting for mophed...okay this is where it kind of all made it clear where I was going to vote in my mind. A normal townie...assuming for a minute laserblue was...would see the votes mounting up for himself vs. mophead...why would you NOT vote for mophead to save your own neck? Only one reason comes to mind...because mophead is mafia with you? I mean I've tried to come up with other reasons why he'd not vote for the other person that is gaining as many votes as him...but couldn't come up with anythings significant....inst ead he picks a player that is not even in the game...and obviously has no prior votes....WHY...this is nuts...why would he do this??? Why not at least vote for someone that had a chance of going before you if you were truly townie?

Putting all the pieces together in my mind I just can't see any reason not to vote for laserblue...althoug h of course he's not the only one suspect in my mind...the pieces just don't add up to him being anyway a townie.

Feel free to comment and let me know what you feel...but for now I feel I have no choice but to vote and at least give him a chance to come on and respond...I don't like the last minute voting....but I don't like rush voting either....so for what it's worth...there's my measly American two cents.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 06, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
well no change in the count


LaserBlue   4 Votes
Mophead    3 Votes
Trick Pony  2 Votes



yet to Vote, Laserblue, Liverbird, Mophead, Sir Hammer and Trick Pony

The deadline for Day Two is Midday Saturday UK time.

8 votes are required to cause a lynch

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 06, 2008, 06:13:43 PM
sorry about the masterzulu vote just trying to add a bit of humour as some people seem to be getting a bit worked up about this game ::)

I think the town are about to make a fatal error so has anyone got any problems with me roleclaiming ..... if you have please say asap cause where kinda running outa time ;D
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 06, 2008, 06:25:15 PM
What do you mean add humor? Just tell a joke or something if you are going to add humor.

VOTE LASERBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 07, 2008, 12:57:11 AM
Well only 3 people in the running

LaserBlue   5 Votes
Mophead    3 Votes
Trick Pony  2 Votes


yet to Vote, Laserblue, Liverbird, Sir Hammer and Trick Pony

The deadline for Day Two is Midday Saturday UK time which is about 11 hours from now

8 votes are required to cause a lynch

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 07, 2008, 01:33:03 AM
And what is your reasoning for voting Zulu?

Is it because he is not posting.LOL :2funny: :2funny: Sorry I was just adding some humor.LOL :2funny: :laugh:

I want a clear answer.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on June 07, 2008, 01:45:13 AM
VOTE LASERBLUE
Miasg and Footballnewb...I see your votes for Trickpony...and Hippo your concerns over him...I agree some of his postings made me nervous as it did appear odd to defend certain ones on that list...however that being said...to place a vote on him for simply defending another player at this point...even though I might be able to see your points...I can't vote that way this time.

Of course you cant vote that way... you have to protect your mafia buddy...
And my vote for him had nothing to do with his lame attempt to look like he was protecting someone... its plain and simply because nothing that has come from him has been of anything more than speaking so much shit that it confuses the other people so they skip over him  :bleh:
the good old cunning confusion tactic... haha

What do you mean add humor? Just tell a joke or something if you are going to add humor.

VOTE LASERBLUE

Can anyone say... BANDWAGON ??
Just confirms my suspicions on you, TP and bluestars...

Im glad im not the only one that though TP's earlier post was just utter crap... as have all his other posts...
I mean come on... saying that hippo has been quiet ?? what thread are you reading TP ??
Now i'm still not 100% on hippo... but he sure as hell hasnt been quiet...
And saying that you think mophead is 100% mafia... nice attempt at a double cross you :clown:... and I'm pretty sure you're not capable of a double double cross so this just reaffirms my suspicion that mophead is evil...
Im inclined to switch my vote to mophead... Even though im still undecided on LaserBlue... I am damn sure mophead is evil...
I'll wait and see how things pan out before making the decision...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on June 07, 2008, 01:49:42 AM
ps... TCH... there has been a vote for masterzulu
page 19 by laserblue :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on June 07, 2008, 01:50:44 AM
errr scratch that.... just realised he's not even playing
haha... duuuhhhhh
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on June 07, 2008, 01:56:43 AM
I find all 3 suspicious, Ive voted both Mophead and Laserblue, but i'm now going to UNVOTE LASERBLUE, VOTE MOPHEAD

Trick Pony's game has deffinatly changed, this is either because he was telling the truth that he was trying a different approach after dying early. or that he is indeed mafia attempting badly to cover his tracks... I was umming and ahhing between voting Trickpony... if i'm up early enough I will review it again...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 07, 2008, 02:34:53 AM

LaserBlue   4 Votes
Mophead    4 Votes
Trick Pony  2 Votes


yet to Vote, Laserblue, Liverbird, Sir Hammer and Trick Pony

The deadline for Day Two is Midday Saturday UK time which is about 9ish hours from now

8 votes are required to cause a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 07, 2008, 03:26:28 AM
Anyway im up the coast again this weekend but I should be on tomorrow morning giving everyone enough time to post a response for me to consider current opinions.
 

well its now 12:30pm here and the morning is over .. have you forgotten to post? or are you trying to now stay out of the limelight .. another "I'll be away post just before the day ends" .. seems to be a trend with you.

Seeing how I had voted for you I was keen to see what you'd say today .. mophead looks even more evil to me now but since your just behind you mates it looks like you won't even vote now so your not associated with any lynch ..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 07, 2008, 03:34:11 AM
Of course you cant vote that way... you have to protect your mafia buddy...
And my vote for him had nothing to do with his lame attempt to look like he was protecting someone... its plain and simply because nothing that has come from him has been of anything more than speaking so much shit that it confuses the other people so they skip over him  :bleh:
the good old cunning confusion tactic... haha

Can anyone say... BANDWAGON ??
Just confirms my suspicions on you, TP and bluestars...

Im glad im not the only one that though TP's earlier post was just utter crap... as have all his other posts...
I mean come on... saying that hippo has been quiet ?? what thread are you reading TP ??
Now i'm still not 100% on hippo... but he sure as hell hasnt been quiet...
And saying that you think mophead is 100% mafia... nice attempt at a double cross you :clown:... and I'm pretty sure you're not capable of a double double cross so this just reaffirms my suspicion that mophead is evil...
Im inclined to switch my vote to mophead... Even though im still undecided on LaserBlue... I am damn sure mophead is evil...
I'll wait and see how things pan out before making the decision...


What the heck does that have to do with starting a bandwagon?!?!?!?!?! :-\

Making something out of nothing just to get out of the spotlight?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 07, 2008, 04:50:43 AM
footballnewb....for the record i am not in kahoots with mophead or TP.....nice of you to show up again though LATE right before the voting ends and participate...too bad you can't come on any other time and add anything significant except to rip off others thoughts.

You start in on ME...when I actually was agreeing with you and Hippo on Trick Pony??? Seems odd to me...especially when you read back and I think for the record this is probably the first thing Hippo and I agree on at all...whatever.

So you tell me that you feel Trick Pony is mafia....okay....do you think laserblue is too??? Or are you picking out my vote on laserblue because you consider him innocent???? Or do you consider him less evil??? Which is it....I think I made it very clear I am voting based on a number of reasons and I don't see how you can attack me as being anything other than town....I have been susing out evil and asking questions why you obviously can't be bothered to log on hardly....I'm tired and I don't get it....so my vote stands.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 07, 2008, 05:42:28 AM
UNVOTE Trick Pony  as Footynewb was just online and would have read bluestars post but hasn't responded to it.  This doesn't sit well with me at all and seeing how I have the other vote on Trick Pony .. you haven't answered the questions so now I'm doubting you - you obviously will just slip into the background once again.    Also the fact that you also don't realise that masterzulu isn't in this game .. I might have thought your first post on this was an attempt to be funny but the 2nd confirms your not really reading the posts .. mafia skim ?

so while i'm still unsure on TP if he is covering for laserblue then I guess I doubt laserblue as well .. and for me that leaves some strange posting from mophead .. so I'm left with 2 thoughts as times is running out.. vote for FBN or vote for mophead ??  I'm going to read back on both your posts and make a descision.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 07, 2008, 06:03:11 AM
Footynewb .. says I'm good and defends me as probably good very early on with no substance behind it - thanks I appreciate it but it's possibly you alligning with someone good. Then you vote TP for speaking shite (which was true) .. then jump off him onto mikeblue after he has a go at Stevenryals .. but you blame this on saving your ass .. then back onto trick pony
VOTE TrickPony because I can...
..  but the main theme is defending or agreeing with laserblue .. you defend him by questioning or attacking mophead and bluestars .. but more importantly back laserblue's vote of masterzulu .. so there is a link between you 2 I feel .. it's all there folks if you log into FBN profile and read through his posts ..

mophead - now mophead has said and done some strange things but the common theme he has is to vote for laserblue .. again another link to why FBN votes for mophead.  Now mophead fits into 2 categories for me .. townie or serial killer - I no longer think of him as mafia.  We have 2 mason groups .. and 1 person from each "outed" .. I doubt there is a 3rd mason group .. therefore the link between FBN and laserblue is mafia related ..

If laserblue goes today and is guilty then FBN should be the one to go down tomorrow .. they way he defends him I'm inclined to think laserblue is the godfather as the godfather wouldn't defend so blatently (I think)  ..  therefore VOTE LASERBLUE

6 hours to go .. just in case TCH isn't around I say we adopt the updating the vote count thing ..

LaserBlue   5 Votes
Mophead    4 Votes
Trick Pony  1 Votes


yet to Vote, Laserblue, Liverbird, Sir Hammer and Trick Pony

The deadline for Day Two is Midday Saturday UK time which I make out to be 6 hours from now

8 votes are required to cause a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dickens Cider on June 07, 2008, 06:45:17 AM
Footynewb .. says I'm good and defends me as probably good very early on with no substance behind it - thanks I appreciate it but it's possibly you alligning with someone good. Then you vote TP for speaking shite (which was true) .. then jump off him onto mikeblue after he has a go at Stevenryals .. but you blame this on saving your ass .. then back onto trick pony ..  but the main theme is defending or agreeing with laserblue .. you defend him by questioning or attacking mophead and bluestars .. but more importantly back laserblue's vote of masterzulu .. so there is a link between you 2 I feel .. it's all there folks if you log into FBN profile and read through his posts ..

mophead - now mophead has said and done some strange things but the common theme he has is to vote for laserblue .. again another link to why FBN votes for mophead.  Now mophead fits into 2 categories for me .. townie or serial killer - I no longer think of him as mafia.  We have 2 mason groups .. and 1 person from each "outed" .. I doubt there is a 3rd mason group .. therefore the link between FBN and laserblue is mafia related ..

If laserblue goes today and is guilty then FBN should be the one to go down tomorrow .. they way he defends him I'm inclined to think laserblue is the godfather as the godfather wouldn't defend so blatently (I think)  ..  therefore VOTE LASERBLUE

Haha !! I love it when people over think things and confuse themselves...
Its so much simpler that you all think...

No idea how a link between me and LaserBlue came about ??? it seems by voting for someone ive suspected from the start... that forms a connection to someone else ???... lol... meh...

ahh well... i better make my vote change now so that i dont get harrassed for changing at the last minute again...
UNVOTE TrickPony
VOTE mophead

Once you stop overthinking things MIASG... you'll see that i'm right... i'm always right... haha
except for that one time i was wrong... but hey... sacrifice one of your own to save yourself... and besides... he was acting dodgy :bleh:

somehow i doubt i'll make it through the night anyways... the mafia now know i know too much... im gone for sure...



Just over 5 hours to go .. just in case TCH isn't around I say we adopt the updating the vote count thing ..

LaserBlue    5 Votes
Mophead     5 Votes


yet to Vote, Laserblue, Liverbird, Sir Hammer and Trick Pony

The deadline for Day Two is Midday Saturday UK time which I make out to be just over 5 hours from now

8 votes are required to cause a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 07, 2008, 09:36:48 AM
well how nice of you to tally the votes for me  :)

so back to a 2 horse race again with 2 and a half hours to go

LaserBlue    5 Votes
Mophead     5 Votes



yet to Vote, Laserblue, Liverbird, Sir Hammer and Trick Pony
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 07, 2008, 10:38:27 AM
To continue my theory is that TP and Mophead are in a mafia together. By standing up for Laserblue, when Laserblue is lynched and turns up innocent (if he is) then TP can have a free pass. Likewise if its Mophead that goes then he can similarily claim that he was a main man  in a mafia lynching. Not certain right now but enough for me to Unvote:laserblue at the moment until TP and Mophead answer me

Vote:Mophead since my posts have been completely ignored, if read at all.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on June 07, 2008, 10:49:30 AM
Vote:Mophead since my posts have been completely ignored, if read at all.

I did read it and thought it was a possibility but do you notice mophead voted for laserblue after you said this.... maybe trying to distance himself from your idea before others catch on?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 07, 2008, 10:49:59 AM
so Mophead takes the lead with 70 minutes to go

Mophead     6 Votes
LaserBlue    5 Votes


yet to Vote Laserblue, Liverbird and Trick Pony
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 07, 2008, 11:22:30 AM
somehow i doubt i'll make it through the night anyways... the mafia now know i know too much... im gone for sure...

I can see it now .. they kept me alive to throw doubt on my innocense ..

and why didn't you answer bluestars questions to you ?   also confirms that you prefer mophead dead over laserblue .. I don't consider either a townie at the moment ..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 07, 2008, 11:35:15 AM
no-one has told me whether i should roleclaim or not?

I'm gonna vote for mophead cause if he was innocent he would reveal his role & save himself

& i want to save my own skin as despite what some people think I am on the town side. 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 07, 2008, 11:49:46 AM
10 minutes

Mophead     6 Votes
LaserBlue    5 Votes



yet to Vote Laserblue, Liverbird and Trick Pony
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 07, 2008, 12:05:47 PM

Your trip through the mines has been uneventful so far, Gandalf leading the way you make progress slowly making sure not to disturb the inhabitants of the mines.
 
"The East gate is not far now" Gandalf informs you all, "Though it will not be easy as we have to cross Durin's Bridge. The bridge was built to guard the East Gate of Khazad-dûm. It is  narrowly spanned and built under the high arches common in Khazad-dûm so we will be exposed while we cross. Keep close and quiet, and we might make it out of here intact."

You move out carefully making your way through the halls to the bridge. You are nearly there when you realise that Mophead has gone. Frodo looks at his sword and notices that it has suddenly started to glow, orcs are coming!!

"Gandalf" Frodo cries and shows him the sword.

"Move" hisses Gandalf "the time for stealth has gone and Mophead has betrayed us, to the bridge now"

You all start running for the bridge, Legolas trailing to slow the pursuit. As you reach the bridge you all slow to a stop as standing in the middle of the span is Mophead, one of the Nazgul, sword drawn.

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/nazgul.jpg)


"You shall not pass, the Orcs will be here and i will claim the ring for my master"

Legolas appears at full speed, "they are coming and too many to hold"

Gandalf stares at Mophead and charges, the two engage in combat on the bridge. The rest of you race past heading for the other side. You make it to the other side and yell for Gandalf to come as the orcs are just about to hit the bridge.

"it is you who shall not pass" Gandalf cries and knocks Mophead to the ground then smashes his staff into the bridge, shattering the bridge sending Mophead down to his death and the Orcs are stuck on the other side.

You race off to the Eastern Gate and exit happy in the knowledge you have all survived the Mines and have killed a Nazgul as well.

We are now into the night phase, so those with night actions can now use them. You have 48 hours to use them and the game will start up at Midday Monday with Day Three.


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 09, 2008, 12:27:02 PM
we'll be starting soon, just back from training
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 09, 2008, 12:49:59 PM
You travel late into the night and make camp in the woods when you reach them. Exhausted you all tumble into your bedrolls leaving Gimli on guard. You are awakend during the night by the screaming of the Nazgul again, they have surrounded the camp and Gimli is nowhere to been seen. All looks lost.
Suddenly the Elves of Lothlorien appear drive off the the Nazgul. You must hurry, our Queen Galadriel wants to see you. They will not follow you where we are going. You gather up your belongings and Gimli is still missing. Legolas finds himnot far from where he was on guard, he has been killed by a rock just like Merry was. Gimli was Footballnewb and part of Mason Group C

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/Gimli.jpg)

Not far from his body is another, that of Happy Axeman, it seems the Nazgul attacked him just after he finished of Gimli, as Happy Axeman was Gollum and the serial Killer

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/gollum.jpg)


The Elves leave you no more time, with the Nazgul still around you must move and now. They take you into to the heart of Lothlorien when you spend several days resting and in consultation with the Lady Galadriel.
Finally you are ready to continue and the Elves give you some canoes to travel down the river Anduin and it is here that we start day three

Day 3 – From Lothlorien down the River Anduin   

There are now 11 of you left

AfroBoy
Bluestars
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Miasg
Sir Hammer
SVH
Trick Pony
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue

So it takes 6 votes to now cause a lynch. The time limit for Day three is till Midday Saturday UK time if no one is lynched before then.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 09, 2008, 01:03:06 PM
Ok a mason group c .. didn't expect that  .. and I was way wrong about FBN .. sorry mate  :D
 
but the mafia get the serial killer  :bleh: good news for us townies as we can lose max 1 per night now ..

good news is we didn't lose a hobbit or the current ring bearer .. plus the serial killer gone.  At least steven you know now who killed you


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 09, 2008, 01:17:31 PM
OK he was bad but who did Happy Axeman put pressure on last round .. hippo then mophead then laserblue then back to mophead.  this doesn'tmean I think your bad it just means you had a motive to kill Axeman ..

I find all 3 suspicious, Ive voted both Mophead and Laserblue, but i'm now going to UNVOTE LASERBLUE, VOTE MOPHEAD
Trick Pony's game has deffinatly changed, this is either because he was telling the truth that he was trying a different approach after dying early. or that he is indeed mafia attempting badly to cover his tracks... I was umming and ahhing between voting Trickpony... if i'm up early enough I will review it again...

I think it strange that Laser is also up for lynch, and hasnt voted mophead? and likewise Mophead hasnt voted Laserblue? I know i certainly would to save my own skin(just like Footynewb did I suppose), but i wouldnt wait till the last minute to put the nail in the coffin, which is what it looks like Laserblue or Mophead is going to do...
Could they both be mafia, in fact looking at the peeps not voted yet, all three of my suspects are there!
both are on my list of peeps to vote for today, but I'm feeling a bit uneasy with the people on the vote list for Mophead.
Afroboy is doing his usual mafia style play by agreeing with peeps all the time, Afroboys vote on Mophead is one of the reasons I will now change it.. UNVOTE MOPHEAD VOTE LASERBLUE

and whats this crap about me vs hippo? we have just tried to see what each other is about, which is the whole point of the game. I would much rather read 1 post with lots of facts and findings rather than millions of 1 sentence posts one after the other.
Mophead is very strange. He obviously isnt following the game properly, and like the last game he cost the town the win when it was clear as day... all he had to do was read what was going on. He is possibly evil, but is deffinatly 100% a liabilty.
Laserblue is coming on my radar a lot more, Something isnt right about him. I'll just have to keep studying his actions... and then Trickpony...
my thoughts are currently telling me that I have 3 options.
Laser, Mophead, Trickpony
UNVOTE HIPPOVOTE MOPHEAD

then the many mophead quote post (mopheads quotes not attached p16)
looking back through the posts, something has occured to me, Where is Liverbird? what  exactly has been her contribution?  ???

then the guy Steve was calling evil all day was Mophead, what has his contribution been?

All one line pointless and useless posts. I also think he has more motive than anyone to kill SteveRyals than anyone... FOS MOPHEAD

then there is also my other Major suspect, Trickpony. who was also another of Steve's main suspects... He calls me in one of posts for being defensive? what?? up until this point where Hippo seems intent on fitting me up, where have i been defensive? I would say ive been more on the offensive when ive posted.  :-\ is this another case of Mafia deflection.. he voted Ryals too...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 09, 2008, 02:02:05 PM
Right then - 2 evil in the last 3 kills is a cracking return. And as MIASG says, there'll only be one kill at night now, so we're in a good position to stop the 2 (i think it'll be 2 anyway) remaining mafia. Let's make sure we continue the good work of yesterday.

OK he was bad but who did Happy Axeman put pressure on last round .. hippo then mophead then laserblue then back to mophead.  this doesn'tmean I think your bad it just means you had a motive to kill Axeman ..

He did put pressure on me, but it was blatantly only because i called him out, rather than him actually thinking i was evil. And he backed down from it after a couple of posts because he knew that i'd eventually make him slip up, because i'm pretty persistent like that.

Of the players that are left, i think we have 2 people that we can assume are alright. Wes as a mason, and Yorkshire Blue as a townie. The first one we all know about, but Yorkshire's big argument with mophead i think just about confirms him as innocent - they definitely don't strike me as people that would try and incriminate each other, just to make one look innocent when the other is dead. You might not agree, but i'm scratching him from my list of possibles. For this reason as well, i'm finding Laserblue less suspicious, as he was defended by Yorkshire against a mafia member, and seemed genuine enough when he was offering to roleclaim.

Just reading back through Axeman's posts now.. this should have been a give away really shouldn't it:

As for StevenRyals, He is always a high profile target so it came as no suprise to see him dead, hell, I even took him out in the 1st day of last game when i was serial killer! lol ...

Anyway..

I think it strange that Laser is also up for lynch, and hasnt voted mophead? and likewise Mophead hasnt voted Laserblue? I know i certainly would to save my own skin(just like Footynewb did I suppose), but i wouldnt wait till the last minute to put the nail in the coffin, which is what it looks like Laserblue or Mophead is going to do...
Could they both be mafia, in fact looking at the peeps not voted yet, all three of my suspects are there!

Afroboy is doing his usual mafia style play by agreeing with peeps all the time, Afroboys vote on Mophead is one of the reasons I will now change it..

Could he have been on to something with either of these bits? And as far as i can find, he was the only person to really mention afroboy yesterday. In fact, afroboy seems to have gone entirely under the radar in this game.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 09, 2008, 02:50:54 PM
I will not be around the computer much for the next two days...today I am off work with a sick mophead and tomorrow I will be out of town...I just wanted to let everyone know.

Well the news is mixed...we lost another town in Footballnewb...sad loss and really hate that...and totally confused me...I thought there to be obviously a group A and group b of masons as there are 4 hobbits but the group c confused me....so....I am sorry for questioning wes...I was confused. However, i find that the mafia choose not to take out the easy kill in wes and yet choose to kill of those that take up for him. Don't know if that will tell us anything but for now shows us mafia doesn't want to take an easy kill.

As far as Axeman as serial....that really doesn't shock me too much...I figured either he or hippo was the serial....guess that answers that.

Mophead evil again.....gggrrr... seriously my kid is too good as evil...I am sorry I didn't vote for him that was me not realizing he wasn't playing erratic as last game but rather evil...so hard to tell he just makes so many random statements.

I'm running errands now...but will try to log on again tonight before going out of town.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: mophead on June 09, 2008, 03:07:19 PM
Yea thanks losers! I was really excited about being a Nazgul!! >:(

Well that just stinks
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 09, 2008, 04:36:13 PM
Yea thanks losers! I was really excited about being a Nazgul!! >:(

Well that just sucks.

(edited to remove mophead's illegal comment)

Interesting. Seems like he's trying to throw us off? And the whole not voting for each other yesterday thing, even though it was clear it would be one of them going, was highly suspicious. Surely it's too obvious though? I don't know.

The people not voting yesterday were: Laserblue (which i find incredible, considering how close it was), Trick Pony and Liverbird.

I can't get passed the fact that laserblue didn't vote for mophead. Why wouldn't you? The only way that makes sense is if you were working together and didn't want to. If laser's good, and has a role to claim, as he was suggesting, surely he'd see that as worth saving and vote for him? You'll have to explain this, laser.

Trick Pony's still suspicious for that bizarre list he put together, and the fact that he hasn't helped the town at all as yet. I'll review what he's done entirely and report back.

Liver Bird, it's impossible to tell isn't it? I do believe the story that her not voting was due to the TT though. It's impossible to tell either way as to where her loyalty lies generally because of the lack of posting. Hopefully she'll contribute a bit more now she's able to, as she said on the lounge thread.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 09, 2008, 06:06:00 PM
I did vote for mophead i just forgot to bold it (i had no reason not to as it was to save my own skin) ... sorry

Mophead coming on & mentioning me after he is dead is clearly trying to throw suspicion on me as the other person to get votes he obviously sees me as a soft target.

he's gonna know that looks bad on me.

the people I find most suspicious are Liverbird as I remember she did not make one post yesterday did not vote & her only vote so far has been for wes after he claimed???

the other I'm not so sure about is tp .... axeman mentioned him & although he has been on regulaly & posted lots ..... reading his posts hardly makes any sense at all???


I'm not gonna role claim at the mo as it will narrow the target down for the mafia, but I have no problem with revealing my role should it be necessary.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Happy Axeman on June 09, 2008, 06:14:44 PM
He did put pressure on me, but it was blatantly only because i called him out, rather than him actually thinking i was evil. And he backed down from it after a couple of posts because he knew that i'd eventually make him slip up, because i'm pretty persistent like that.
Dont fool yourself hippo by bigging yourself up(unless its self preservation cause you are mafia!), I was actually playing with my mindset as a townie...  i didnt back down from anything, there were more obvious mafia targets to go after.... hence why the mafia killed me, as they thought i was Town...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on June 09, 2008, 06:27:21 PM
Interesting. Seems like he's trying to throw us off? And the whole not voting for each other yesterday thing, even though it was clear it would be one of them going, was highly suspicious. Surely it's too obvious though? I don't know.

The people not voting yesterday were: Laserblue (which i find incredible, considering how close it was), Trick Pony and Liverbird.

I can't get passed the fact that laserblue didn't vote for mophead. Why wouldn't you? The only way that makes sense is if you were working together and didn't want to. If laser's good, and has a role to claim, as he was suggesting, surely he'd see that as worth saving and vote for him? You'll have to explain this, laser.

Trick Pony's still suspicious for that bizarre list he put together, and the fact that he hasn't helped the town at all as yet. I'll review what he's done entirely and report back.

Liver Bird, it's impossible to tell isn't it? I do believe the story that her not voting was due to the TT though. It's impossible to tell either way as to where her loyalty lies generally because of the lack of posting. Hopefully she'll contribute a bit more now she's able to, as she said on the lounge thread.


Ive read through all the past pages ive missed out on and i think ive finally caught up on everything. lol

Im sorry i couldnt vote but Mikeblue lives inside the TT course, and there was no way of me getting his laptop , but TT is now over thank god, and now i can get stuck in to this game properly..



Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on June 09, 2008, 06:44:22 PM
I did vote for mophead i just forgot to bold it (i had no reason not to as it was to save my own skin) ... sorry

Mophead coming on & mentioning me after he is dead is clearly trying to throw suspicion on me as the other person to get votes he obviously sees me as a soft target.

he's gonna know that looks bad on me.

the people I find most suspicious are Liverbird as I remember she did not make one post yesterday did not vote & her only vote so far has been for wes after he claimed???

the other I'm not so sure about is tp .... axeman mentioned him & although he has been on regulaly & posted lots ..... reading his posts hardly makes any sense at all???


I'm not gonna role claim at the mo as it will narrow the target down for the mafia, but I have no problem with revealing my role should it be necessary.



Well you shouldnt find me suspicious , i geniunaly (dont mind the spelling) couldnt make it on here for the week. Im back now and wanna try an protect all remaining townies!

Im not really too sure what to think of everyone at the moment...


I'm not gonna role claim at the mo as it will narrow the target down for the mafia, but I have no problem with revealing my role should it be necessary.



no-one has told me whether i should roleclaim or not?

I'm gonna vote for mophead cause if he was innocent he would reveal his role & save himself

& i want to save my own skin as despite what some people think I am on the town side. 

Is Role claiming allowed or a good thing?? im a little confused lol because you keep going on about role claiming, but are you just saying that so then you actually look like your a townie? when your actually not?? Ive not read anyone else wanting to role claim but maybe your starting to panic a bit??
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 09, 2008, 06:49:00 PM
welcome back .... well it seems my post had the desired effect & your back with us now ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 09, 2008, 07:19:55 PM
Personally I dont think that those who are in daily contact with each other should post about anything that doesnt happen within the thread as I would be inclined to believe Steveryals about mophead being evil just because of the way he acts around the house but this gives the town an unfair advantage.

Mophead is an enigma. Hes a nutcase in every game so you cant tell if he is actually evil or not!  :o


Bluestars, cut down on his sugar intake!

I think that Laser is evil but I get the feeling that Mophead is going to the gallows tonight.

Regardless I am staying with my vote

These posts read a bit like a mafia member resigned to losing one of his own don't they? Haven't really noticed him doing much during this game either.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on June 09, 2008, 07:22:48 PM
welcome back .... well it seems my post had the desired effect & your back with us now ;)

hahah yeah something like that  ::)

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 10, 2008, 12:29:13 AM


One thing for sure is that TP and Bluestars aren't the other mason with FootballNewb.

Right then - 2 evil in the last 3 kills is a cracking return. And as MIASG says, there'll only be one kill at night now, so we're in a good position to stop the 2 (i think it'll be 2 anyway) remaining mafia. Let's make sure we continue the good work of yesterday.
  Hippo if you are right and it is 2 (although if your  mafia your likely to lessen the real number) then that also makes it harder as we have a 1 in 5 1/2 chance of getting it right today .. personally I think there are 3 left .. as  we have the same as last game and there were 4 mafia in xmen. 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 10, 2008, 12:32:53 AM
after waiting for two bloody days and a couple of beers for some reason I forgot that mophead was actually voted off!  :laugh:

well at least I posted! true what I said about Laser though, had my doubts towards the end
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 10, 2008, 12:33:18 AM
I do feel like a total tit now though  :blush:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 10, 2008, 12:37:40 AM
Mophead please ensure that you have read the posts first this time before casting a vote!  ::)
 bahahahahaha

also I was thinking about hippo's 2 mafia left .. if there were 2 left then all we would have to do is role claim today kill the obvious mafia  and  the survive 1 kill tonight and wrap it up tomorrow ..

there's no way there are 2 left ..  17 started .. 1 serial killer .. and 3 mafia .. leaving 13 townies?  I'm pretty convinced there's 4 mafia + 1 serial + 12 townies ..

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 10, 2008, 12:57:27 AM
hey guys, Steve and I have edited a couple of posts and removed one as Mophead's post was inappropriate and some of the comments referred to it.

Sorry for the inconvience

 O0
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 10, 2008, 01:03:44 AM
yeah that's why I hate the post death post .. TP tried to do that to me last game .. save it for the deadmans thread.  The trouble is now a few of us have read it (and possibly formed an opinion) and some haven't.

maybe in future and postdeath posts have to go through mod to post on there behalf ?

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 10, 2008, 01:20:41 AM
  bahahahahaha

also I was thinking about hippo's 2 mafia left .. if there were 2 left then all we would have to do is role claim today kill the obvious mafia  and  the survive 1 kill tonight and wrap it up tomorrow ..

there's no way there are 2 left ..  17 started .. 1 serial killer .. and 3 mafia .. leaving 13 townies?  I'm pretty convinced there's 4 mafia + 1 serial + 12 townies ..

Well you might be right, but from my experience, it's usually nearer a quarter of the players being evil, than a third, to make it balanced. Didn't read the last game, but if that's what happened then maybe you're right. In which case, i think we'll struggle.

Afroboy and Trick Pony. In my mind, these are the evil ones.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 10, 2008, 08:51:48 AM
the 2 previous mafia games ..
Tripping - 12 players 1 SK 2 Maf 1 GF - 1/3rd
Xmen - 14 players 1 SK 3 Maf 1  GF  - just over 1/3rd 35%
LOTR - we have 17 with SK gone and 1 maf gone ..  if we look at 1/3 then we are looking at 5.6 evil people .. so 1 sk + 4 mafia is plausable.  I guess 6 isn't out of the question either but the fellowship have many people

FROM Wikipedia:
The Fellowship of the Ring

Frodo Baggins: A hobbit, nephew of Bilbo and protagonist of the story. He is 50-60 years old as he leaves on his quest to Rivendell.

Samwise Gamgee (Sam): A hobbit. Before the quest, he was Frodo and Bilbo's gardener, but during it he is Frodo's companion.

Meriadoc Brandybuck (Merry): Another hobbit. Frodo's friend. Accompanies him on his quest.

Peregrin Took (Pippin): Another hobbit who accompanies Frodo, Sam and Merry to Rivendell. He is shown to be fairly clumsy.

Gandalf the Grey: Mysterious wizard that is seen in different parts of Frodo's quest. He helps Frodo as much as he can, while attending Wizard Meetings and going on his own special business.

Aragorn (Strider): Ranger from the North, who accompanies the hobbits from Bree to Rivendell, and then becomes a member of the Fellowship. It is revealed he is the Heir of Isildur and of Elendil. He receives 'the sword that was broken long ago' and had elves reforge them for him. He has named the sword 'Anduril'.

Legolas: Expert Elven archer. His father is the Elf-prince of Mirkwood.

Gimli: Dwarf, son of Gloín. His favourite weapon is an axe. Suspicious of Legolas at first but a valiant member of the company.

Boromir: Son of Denethor, Steward of Gondor. He is tempted by the Ring's powers.

Other

Gollum: An evil creature, once lived by the name of Smeágol. Unfortunately, Smeagol killed his companion in order to obtain the one Ring and was therefore called Gollum from then on. He struggles to keep control of himself but is sometimes thrown into trouble because the spell that the Ring had put on him in order to get back onto the hands of Sauron, the Dark Lord. On a quest to find Frodo and claim his ring back, luckily for Frodo Gollum swears a promise to the Ring and must help Frodo reach the Cracks of Doom He calls the Ring 'My Precious'. He is seen to follow the Fellowship on their journey through Middle-earth across the mines of Moria and through the lands of Lorien.

so that's 10 (including gollum) plus Sauron and the ? nazgul.  we also know elrond and bilbo don't come along.  Possibly 3 more townie characters in Arwen and Galadriel and treebeard. 

maybe there's a character that's neither townie or evil maybe someon'es the ring !  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 10, 2008, 09:05:21 AM
shit I'm confusing myself even more .. the first posts says we have to kill sauron ,the nazgull, and gollum (thanks mafia) but what about (also from wikipedia - lotr - fellowship - I figure TCH will get photo's from the movies)
 
 
Saruman the White: The fallen head of the Istari Order, who succumbed to Sauron's will via his use of the palantír. After capturing Gandalf, he creates an army of Uruk-hai to find and capture the Ring from the Fellowship.

Sauron: The main antagonist and title character of the story, who created the One Ring to conquer Middle-earth. He lost the Ring to Isildur, and now seeks it in order to initiate his reign over Middle-earth. He cannot yet take physical form, and is spiritually incarnate as an Eye.

Lurtz: The commander of Saruman's orc forces who leads the hunt for the Fellowship as they head to Mordor.

I would have thought Saruman would be here somewhere ..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 10, 2008, 11:19:40 AM
liverbird where is this post with what you think of everyone like you said in the lounge
the only posts you have done is short mainly pointless ones
svh posts two pointless posts then dissapears so it looks like hes posting but not really any use
so these are probably the most sus to me
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 10, 2008, 12:03:14 PM
So it looks like we have an intact group of masons and two broken groups. Wes has claimed to be a member of one group but his fellow mason hasnt come forward. I think that if he wasnt a mason the intact group would now be lobbying for his lynching so I am starting to believe him.

I find it suspicious after a day of attempting to probe Axeman that Hippo takes credit for putting pressure on him after Axeman gets killed in the night. I think that Hippo genuinely thought that Axeman was a townie and got lucky by killing Gollum in the night when he thought he was taking out a townie threat.

FOS Hippo

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 10, 2008, 12:41:38 PM
Well I expected a response in this time seeing as Hippo has been on here for about an hour so I will test the water

Vote Hippo
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 10, 2008, 12:48:12 PM
I find it suspicious after a day of attempting to probe Axeman that Hippo takes credit for putting pressure on him after Axeman gets killed in the night. I think that Hippo genuinely thought that Axeman was a townie and got lucky by killing Gollum in the night when he thought he was taking out a townie threat.

FOS Hippo

I think you'll find that the reason Happy Axeman was killed by the mafia, was either his accurate picking out of main suspects (laserblue, trick pony and mophead), or because there were a number of quotes like the following one from MIASG, where people stated that one of me or axeman are definitely evil. They'd have killed him, thinking he was innocent, to try and make a lynch on me happen.

Happy Axeman vs Hippo - throws doubt and makes me (and Wes it looks like) thinks one of you evil
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 10, 2008, 12:49:12 PM
How suspicious does this following quote look now we know who mophead is?

Axeman whats your beef with mophead - that's how's he's played this game good and evil  :bleh: 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 10, 2008, 12:58:43 PM
Il be totally honest that was just a theory I drummed up along with the vote to get a reaction out of you.

The MIASG quote does look iffy but then I have said something similar which you pointed out. He is right, even if he is good he plays the game the same way so its hard to tell!

Doesnt mean that you may not be onto something though.

Laserblue - as I have stated I am starting to believe him at the moment. I instigated a move on him in the previous day but I wasnt taken out in the night. This could have been because the mafia saw Axeman as a bigger threat though. He also changed his vote to swing the tide towards mophead, would a mafia member sacrifice a colleague for his own survival or allow himself to go to the gallows?

Im still suspicious of both Laserblue and Hippo but will have to look through a lot of peoples posts...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 10, 2008, 01:14:29 PM
well we have a vote


Hippo has 1 vote



six votes are all that is required for a lynch.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 10, 2008, 01:20:29 PM
hippo I was mearly pointing out that mophead was playing no different to other games and axeman comes out with a half page quote fest from mophead and I wanted to see why he thought he was bad .. as it turn out the both were.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 10, 2008, 01:22:53 PM
So it looks like we have an intact group of masons and two broken groups. Wes has claimed to be a member of one group but his fellow mason hasnt come forward. I think that if he wasnt a mason the intact group would now be lobbying for his lynching so I am starting to believe him.
I find it suspicious after a day of attempting to probe Axeman that Hippo takes credit for putting pressure on him after Axeman gets killed in the night. I think that Hippo genuinely thought that Axeman was a townie and got lucky by killing Gollum in the night when he thought he was taking out a townie threat.
FOS Hippo

how do we know wes isn't part of the broken up masons ?  your logic doesn't make sense to me.  I've got no idea if wes is part of mason group a, or the remaining mason of b or c .. do you ?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 10, 2008, 01:28:24 PM
liverbird where is this post with what you think of everyone like you said in the lounge
the only posts you have done is short mainly pointless ones
svh posts two pointless posts then dissapears so it looks like hes posting but not really any use
so these are probably the most sus to me

Liverbird I gotta agree with yorkshire on this you've posted twice and basically only really asked if roleclaim is allowed. 

As footynewb and I alluded to yesterday Trick Pony has changed his style of play .. and he's been very very quiet and said nothing and done nothing to help the town..   mate I think we've swapped roles from last the last game .. this time i'm townie and your mafia ..

vote trick pony aka the :clown:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 10, 2008, 03:44:11 PM
 >:DVOTE: LASERBLUE >:D  i have said before why.

 >:DYorkshire >:D  you are not out of the woods yet.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 10, 2008, 04:08:02 PM
Trick Ponys post is essentially gibberish. People having a 50-50 chance of being Mafia/Town/Serial Killer

He doesnt think that the current votes are really being thought about, and everyone seems to want to end the day. This is an obvious mafia move, he claims. Currently about 9 people have voted, and he is saying therefore that everyone is using an obvious mafia move.

His comments on Hippo are strange, as are his on Axeman and I have no idea why he is speculating as to who he thinks are the hobbits. They need to stay as unknown and safe as possible. We have already lost one, and one suspected hobbit out in the open.

A blatant attempt to cover Laserblue as well with no reason why he thinks hes innocent, and again no substance of a reason on why he is certain Mophead is mafia.

To continue my theory is that TP and Mophead are in a mafia together. By standing up for Laserblue, when Laserblue is lynched and turns up innocent (if he is) then TP can have a free pass. Likewise if its Mophead that goes then he can similarily claim that he was a main man  in a mafia lynching. Not certain right now but enough for me to Unvote:laserblue at the moment until TP and Mophead answer me

Since half my theory has proven true, I'm going to Vote:Trick Pony

Great result last night.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 10, 2008, 05:00:24 PM
how do we know wes isn't part of the broken up masons ?  your logic doesn't make sense to me.  I've got no idea if wes is part of mason group a, or the remaining mason of b or c .. do you ?

HThe fact that theres 3 mason groups is a bit of a twist. I have no idea what group he claims to be a part of so lets hear it from him!

We dont want anyone else to come forward. Wes what mason group are you a part of?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 11, 2008, 01:01:50 AM
Vote count

Trick Pony     2 Votes
Hippo            1 Vote
Laserblue       1 Vote


Yet to vote  AfroBoy, Bluestars, Hippo, LaserBLue, Liverbird, Trick Pony and Yorkshire Blue


6 votes to cause a lynch, deadline Midday Saturday
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 11, 2008, 01:08:28 AM
WES I don't want you to answer that ..

if he says A then he may have the ring
If he says B then he's a pippen (or merry which everone didn't die)
if he says C then gimli

I don't want to take the risk that he's in A .. and expose him to the mafia .. right now all they know is one of the following .. he's lying to us or he's in one of these groups.  Why kill him off if you can link him to someone else.  If he's A then we want him alive as long as possible as if it falls to someone like me I can only hold the ring for 1 night.  If he's telling the truth then they'll have no idea.  

SVH if he is mafia then he'll have other buddies out there and I think we have to trust him for now.  Your actions in trying to out him doesn't look completely townie to me .. looks like you may be getting desperate.  Surely there are other, more stronger, candidates for mafia out there.  
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 11, 2008, 01:24:23 AM
Liverbird I gotta agree with yorkshire on this you've posted twice and basically only really asked if roleclaim is allowed. 

As footynewb and I alluded to yesterday Trick Pony has changed his style of play .. and he's been very very quiet and said nothing and done nothing to help the town..   mate I think we've swapped roles from last the last game .. this time i'm townie and your mafia ..

vote trick pony aka the :clown:

WOW do you actually read any of the posts ? I stated early on in the game that I have changed my gaming style as I kept getting killed for being vocal, and look where it has taken me  :o

MIASG your entire reasoning for voting me is because I changed my playing style, nice try on the bandwagon attempt MIASG you  >:D mofo you have been waiting on something lame to vote me like the past 2 games  ;) just because you said your a townie doesnt mean a thing, you have lied your way through the past two games and convinced everyone from the start that you were innocent but IM NOT BUYING IT !!! your definatlety evil, talking about playing styles changing, your investigating every little piece of this game, probably because you have so much spare time though from fence sitting in the past few games through to investigating every little detail from everyones posts doesnt seem right for someone claiming to be a townie and your posting style history.

I know you have been watinging on this for a while so VOTE: MIASG you  :cowboy:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 11, 2008, 01:42:00 AM
so you only attack me back .. why not say anything back to Sir Hammer ? I'm not the only one who has questioned you.

why not convince me your not mafia ?  no you only have a go at how I played the past 2 games to throw doubt back on me ..  they all know I lied and cheated to get through the past 2 games - I can't change that.  I'm trying to keep the important mason groups hidden and what is your main issue - tit for tat voting. 
But I am willing to reveal my role as I've said all along what type of Townie I am .. If I get killed at night that's ok with me as I'm not that helpfull in getting the ring to day 7 other than to root out mafia - there are alot more important townies out there than me.  But i will tell you this TP I won't get myself lynched during the day as it does no good for the town.  The greater good my friend.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 11, 2008, 02:34:46 AM
so you only attack me back .. why not say anything back to Sir Hammer ? I'm not the only one who has questioned you.

why not convince me your not mafia ?  no you only have a go at how I played the past 2 games to throw doubt back on me ..  they all know I lied and cheated to get through the past 2 games - I can't change that.  I'm trying to keep the important mason groups hidden and what is your main issue - tit for tat voting. 
But I am willing to reveal my role as I've said all along what type of Townie I am .. If I get killed at night that's ok with me as I'm not that helpfull in getting the ring to day 7 other than to root out mafia - there are alot more important townies out there than me.  But i will tell you this TP I won't get myself lynched during the day as it does no good for the town.  The greater good my friend.

I dont attack you I was just stating the obvious, I guess you have started the MIASG vs TP again  :cowboy: I dont need to convince anyone that im not mafia as I have already stated that im a normal townie, its unfortunate that players need to keen posting stuff they have already said as players like your self dont read, I really dont know why I bother with you, though I enjoy the reaction from you  :laugh:

And stop going on about how good you are, I wont believe a word you have to say, so Sir Hammer or hippo what are your thoughts on this ? I truely dont believe a word he has to say and there is no tit for tat on this one, you have really changed your gaming style which has me troubled as I thought you were innocent but I cant believe you so either SH or hippo will have to convince me to change my vote, I cant see anyone other than you being evil at this stage, Sir Hammer and Hippo have both been posting to try save the town but you my friend are evil once again.
 
I will role claim if required just before the end of day if required to save myself as I have an important night action for the town once again and since I had one last game and was killed this is my reasoning for changing my playing style, so either believe me or not but I believe MIASG is evil so unless someone backs you up you have my vote MIASG.

We need to remeber that there are still alot of other players in the game so TCH can you post the current players list so no one is left hiding like the last game....
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 11, 2008, 03:03:48 AM
just had to go back 3 pages .. There are now 11 of you left

AfroBoy
Bluestars
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Miasg
Sir Hammer
SVH
Trick Pony
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue
 
why ask just hippo and sir hammer?  plus Sir hammer is the other to vote for you ? 

I have never started the MIASG vs TP before it's always been you.  Just becuase this is a new game doesn't mean I can't find your actions suspicious.  If you are who you say you are then your a complete knob and made your self a bigger target then Wes or myself as you've stated you have a night action.  once again you knob.  If you have such an important role why sit back and say nothing?  what you've done wrong in the past was kept going at me ... that shouldn't stop you asking questions in this game.  I did lay off you early on for the same reasons as you but I didn't and dodn't  see you helping us out.

for now the benefit of the doubt UNVOTE TRICK PONY aka :clown: as if you are who you say you are I'm not lynching you. 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 11, 2008, 04:04:44 AM
just had to go back 3 pages .. There are now 11 of you left

AfroBoy
Bluestars
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Miasg
Sir Hammer
SVH
Trick Pony
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue
 
why ask just hippo and sir hammer?  plus Sir hammer is the other to vote for you ? 

I have never started the MIASG vs TP before it's always been you.  Just becuase this is a new game doesn't mean I can't find your actions suspicious.  If you are who you say you are then your a complete knob and made your self a bigger target then Wes or myself as you've stated you have a night action.  once again you knob.  If you have such an important role why sit back and say nothing?  what you've done wrong in the past was kept going at me ... that shouldn't stop you asking questions in this game.  I did lay off you early on for the same reasons as you but I didn't and dodn't  see you helping us out.

for now the benefit of the doubt UNVOTE TRICK PONY aka :clown: as if you are who you say you are I'm not lynching you. 

well its quite obvious that in this game we need to post who we are otherwise dumb ass townies lynch each other off, and since I want to use my night action i dont want to get killed for being quiet. That was my whole tactic within this game as being so vocal in the past games had gotten me killed twice... hopefully the others see that its not total BS and we look for the rest of the mafia as ill probably get killed in the next night phase, wes, bluestars and liverbird are pretty quiet at the moment so im pretty sus on them
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 11, 2008, 08:49:06 AM
Vote count


Hippo            1 Vote
Laserblue       1 Vote
miasg            1 Vote
Trick Pony     1 Vote


Yet to vote  AfroBoy, Bluestars, Hippo, LaserBLue, Liverbird, Miasg and Yorkshire Blue


6 votes to cause a lynch, deadline Midday Saturday
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 11, 2008, 08:56:58 AM
I'm a bit disapointed I thought liverbird might start to get involved
without her getting involved there's no way of having an opinion one way or another
& I don't want us to loose a town player simply because they don't get involved.
The TT/newb excuses are starting to grow a bit thin now we need you to get involved. it seems now she's just trying to drift through with no questions & no answers.


I was also thinking there does not seem to be a bounty killer this time as surley they would have acted by now? with that & the masons I'm wondering what suprises TCH might have in store for us yet ???
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 11, 2008, 08:59:32 AM
afroboys the quiet one today so far ...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 11, 2008, 09:14:58 AM
afroboys the quiet one today so far ...

your right ...... I'm at work at the mo..... afros at school so won't be on till later but I don't want get involved in that one again ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 11, 2008, 09:25:02 AM
Trick Pony - reg townie no powers - yes FBN thats a fact so either believe me or get over it and leave your vote on me, nothings personal your just doing a safety vote in my opinion so you dont provoke any one elses attention, though I still believe your a mason at this stage.

I will role claim if required just before the end of day if required to save myself as I have an important night action for the town once again and since I had one last game and was killed this is my reasoning for changing my playing style, so either believe me or not but I believe MIASG is evil so unless someone backs you up you have my vote MIASG.

There's just so many inconsistencies with the thing's you're saying. I don't believe you at all.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 11, 2008, 09:29:14 AM
Un-vote laserblue, TP really dont know why you have said that you have a night action?, I believe MIASG isnt a mafia or evil and i think we need to focus on whos the one's are letting us townies argue, by sitting back.

Bluestars you are really playing this game different to the last and think you have a hidden agenda. i am really not sure on where you lie on the evil/good things which bother's me.

SVH, why do you want me to tell you what group i am in that does interest me alot and also the other townies?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 11, 2008, 10:10:46 AM
Trick Pony - reg townie no powers - yes FBN thats a fact so either believe me or get over it and leave your vote on me, nothings personal your just doing a safety vote in my opinion so you dont provoke any one elses attention, though I still believe your a mason at this stage.

I will role claim if required just before the end of day if required to save myself as I have an important night action for the town once again and since I had one last game and was killed this is my reasoning for changing my playing style, so either believe me or not but I believe MIASG is evil so unless someone backs you up you have my vote MIASG.




I believe in a strategy called Lynch all Liars
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 11, 2008, 10:28:30 AM



I believe in a strategy called Lynch all Liars

Very suss FOS TRICK PONY
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 11, 2008, 12:04:11 PM
trick pony is looking very sus but where is liverbird can we get a replacement
il leav the vote on tp for now until he explains himself
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 11, 2008, 12:16:36 PM
yorkshire I don't believe you've voted for Trick Pony ..
and I ment afro was quiet for the Mafia day not just physical today

no point replacing liverbird .. she's said she'll be around now .. others have also said they'd be away for some time .. all liverbird needs to do is post her thoughts on where we are at .. and hopefully ask questions of those she deems mafia

this might sound a tad silly but we can still win this game with mafia alive at the end .. what we really want to do is not lynch a townie during the day phase, especially today... Liverbird has bascially missed 85% or so of the game with the TT week .. now it's time for her to catch up .. I'm happy not to vote for her at the moment so it gives her the time to explain .. does this make sense ?

:clown: if your town you've really confused us .. if your mafia your clutching at straws .. As I said before I don't know what to make of your night action "roleclaim" .. if your not lynched today it will be interesting to see what happens to you at night .. the days are running out for the mafia so I'd say you are the no.1 target.  Then again they've kept Wes alive so far and he would also appear to have some importance.  The fact he's survived this long is puzzling.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 11, 2008, 12:45:11 PM
TP it just seems that your trying to make confrontation between you & miasg so you can hide behind it
& the night action roleclaim it just does not ring true .... how have you used them .... what did you do?

Still no liverbird ..... I am really uncomfotable with this...... she has not actually made a post that has said anything about her thoughts on the game & without her being involved it's impossible to have a clue about her ... I've tried to get her involved several times but next to nothing & i am running out of patience with her.

fos TP & Liverbird
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 11, 2008, 01:27:34 PM
welcome back .... well it seems my post had the desired effect & your back with us now  
hahah yeah something like that 

this was 2 days ago .. and liverbird hasn't been on since .. so that's why she hasn't responded to the last lot of pressure .. but what can we do .. there are others who haven't even posted .. and really haven't done that much either ie afroboy.



Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 11, 2008, 01:39:44 PM
Vote count


Hippo            1 Vote
miasg            1 Vote
Trick Pony     1 Vote


Yet to vote  AfroBoy, Bluestars, Hippo, LaserBLue, Liverbird, Miasg, Wesmancity and Yorkshire Blue


6 votes to cause a lynch, deadline Midday Saturday
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 11, 2008, 02:21:15 PM



I believe in a strategy called Lynch all Liars

wow this is really going to happen once again, just because you fools cant see whats right in front of your face, ill role claim if required near deadline though other than that their is no point. If you cant interpret the way people play this game their is almost no point.

So how else is going to jump on the bandwagon with Sir Hammer, wes, and laserblue ? though none of them actually vote ... itsnt that something to consider looks like mafia dropping the  :axe: to me I can now say that I know how FBN felt at the end of the last game  :wall:

who said wes is innocent ? no one apart from him self
who said MIASG is innocent ? himself ...
So I guess they must also be liars well we know one of them is that :cowboy: MIASG


AfroBoy  - townie
Bluestars - never round so probably mafia
Hippo - townie
LaserBlue - probably mafia
Liverbird - who ? probably similar story to Bluestars mafia
Miasg - prime suspect for being mafia still
Sir Hammer- townie
SVH - not convinced either way though townie at the moment
Trick Pony - townie
Wesmancity -  townie
Yorkshire Blue - townie

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 11, 2008, 02:59:08 PM
WES I don't want you to answer that ..

if he says A then he may have the ring
If he says B then he's a pippen (or merry which everone didn't die)
if he says C then gimli

I don't want to take the risk that he's in A .. and expose him to the mafia .. right now all they know is one of the following .. he's lying to us or he's in one of these groups.  Why kill him off if you can link him to someone else.  If he's A then we want him alive as long as possible as if it falls to someone like me I can only hold the ring for 1 night.  If he's telling the truth then they'll have no idea. 

SVH if he is mafia then he'll have other buddies out there and I think we have to trust him for now.  Your actions in trying to out him doesn't look completely townie to me .. looks like you may be getting desperate.  Surely there are other, more stronger, candidates for mafia out there. 

I put in a post directly after that asking him not to answer it as I didnt put any thought into that post but its been deleted!!  >:(
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 11, 2008, 03:22:14 PM
Laserblue - I know I targeted you in the previous day but I have been looking over your posts and apart from taking part in the no lynch debate early on in the first game and trying to save your own arse yesterday you have not contributed anything and I mean ANYTHING to help find mafia.

unvote Hippo - meant to do this earlier but I forgot.

vote laserblue

Lets hear from you, lets hear your thoughts as so far you have not helped at all. All you seem to post about is people who arent posting!!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 11, 2008, 03:56:34 PM
I put in a post directly after that asking him not to answer it as I didnt put any thought into that post but its been deleted!!  >:(

TCH - can you confirm this.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 11, 2008, 04:06:15 PM
I was having connection problems yesterday but im sure it was successfully posted.



Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 11, 2008, 04:10:50 PM
I will not be around the computer much for the next two days...today I am off work with a sick mophead and tomorrow I will be out of town...I just wanted to let everyone know.

Well the news is mixed...we lost another town in Footballnewb...sad loss and really hate that...and totally confused me...I thought there to be obviously a group A and group b of masons as there are 4 hobbits but the group c confused me....so....I am sorry for questioning wes...I was confused. However, i find that the mafia choose not to take out the easy kill in wes and yet choose to kill of those that take up for him. Don't know if that will tell us anything but for now shows us mafia doesn't want to take an easy kill.

As far as Axeman as serial....that really doesn't shock me too much...I figured either he or hippo was the serial....guess that answers that.

Mophead evil again.....gggrrr... seriously my kid is too good as evil...I am sorry I didn't vote for him that was me not realizing he wasn't playing erratic as last game but rather evil...so hard to tell he just makes so many random statements.

I'm running errands now...but will try to log on again tonight before going out of town.



Um...hello...do any of you READ!

TRICK PONY....you mention I changed my gamestyle and then pin me as mafia??? Nice work....pay attention and read the game...I've been here and unlike others don't wait til the last minute to post...I've been involved all along and was simply out of town...I take the time to mention exactly when I will be gone and when I will return...and I'm back and here like I have been all along in this game working my townie self to attempt to find evil...so take me off your list...

nice of you to attempt to swing suspicion my way when I'm not even here!

I just got back today. I've not had time to catch-up per say.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 11, 2008, 04:15:58 PM
wow this is really going to happen once again, just because you fools cant see whats right in front of your face, ill role claim if required near deadline though other than that their is no point. If you cant interpret the way people play this game their is almost no point.

So how else is going to jump on the bandwagon with Sir Hammer, wes, and laserblue ? though none of them actually vote ... itsnt that something to consider looks like mafia dropping the  :axe: to me I can now say that I know how FBN felt at the end of the last game  :wall:
who said wes is innocent ? no one apart from him self
who said MIASG is innocent ? himself ...
So I guess they must also be liars well we know one of them is that :cowboy: MIASG


AfroBoy  - townie
Bluestars - never round so probably mafia
Hippo - townie
LaserBlue - probably mafia
Liverbird - who ? probably similar story to Bluestars mafia
Miasg - prime suspect for being mafia still
Sir Hammer- townie
SVH - not convinced either way though townie at the moment
Trick Pony - townie
Wesmancity -  townie
Yorkshire Blue - townie



So at the top you class me as mafia, then going threw the players and say i am town  ??? which one is it?

You also clame sir hammer to be involved with the bangwaggon of mafia, and class him as a townie aswel??
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 11, 2008, 04:30:40 PM
sorry????
I think you must not be looking at the same game as me cause I posted my thoughts about 3 or 4 posts before this???

Besides the No vote debate I posted on wes (that's what got him mad with me)

I also posted on Mikeblue

& posted today about liverbird & TP & mentioned afro in answer to Miasg

I think you must be mistaken ..... there are people not posting at all???

please can you come back & tell me..... how you think I'm not posting.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 11, 2008, 05:15:22 PM



I believe in a strategy called Lynch all Liars

FOS TRICK PONY

Well seems pretty obvious right there now doesn't it...not good at all...not to mention the other questions from Wes above about having Sir Hammer and Wes as townie and mafia bandwagoning?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 11, 2008, 05:17:00 PM
Well not sure why the TP posts did not come through on that....sorry I quoted Sir Hammer and it didn't show Trick Pony's post.

Basically on his OWN list he calls himself a regular townie with no powers.

Then goes on now to claim to have a night role.

What gives?

Not to mention think the Wes post above deserves and explanation as well. If you are townie and this is a stupid error you might want to get on here and say something...not looking well at all.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 11, 2008, 05:46:15 PM
sorry????
I think you must not be looking at the same game as me cause I posted my thoughts about 3 or 4 posts before this???

Besides the No vote debate I posted on wes (that's what got him mad with me)

I also posted on Mikeblue

& posted today about liverbird & TP & mentioned afro in answer to Miasg

I think you must be mistaken ..... there are people not posting at all???

please can you come back & tell me..... how you think I'm not posting.

sorry this was to answer svh post from the previous page.

anyway svh asked for my thoughts as I said on the previous page I think TP is the most sus then liverbird

Tp has been posting I stated that previosly so I don't see how your just saying I have only posted about people not posting (does that make sense)

Tp just seems to be digging a deeper hole for himself... his posts throughout the game make very little sense... he says he's one thing then another ... I also said he is trying to start an argument between him & miasg to hide behind.

I'm not voting for liverbird now cause I want to hear what she has to say.... i've asked her to come on several times ... but noything yet?

If you want me to stick my neck out.... i say tp is the most sus at the mo vote TP
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 11, 2008, 06:29:57 PM
I was willing to let him try to explain why he'd made two separate claims, but now that he's followed it up with more contradictions i'm gonna have to act. He just hasn't said anything that has made sense or helped the town in any way - although if he turns out to mafia, those lists could give an indication of who else is.

Vote Trick Pony

If you're a powerful townie, tell us what the hell you've done. Because you haven't killed anyone, you haven't protected anyone successfully (the doctor's dead anyway), you don't appear to have blocked anyone, and if you've investigated anyone, you certainly haven't attempted to get that information across to us, by way of accusing them strongly or defending them strongly. So really, what use are you?

And if you are ultra powerful, why did you leave yourself on the joint highest number of votes right until practically the end of day one, without trying to indicate anything like this, and risk losing us one of our powerful roles?

In short, i don't believe you.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 11, 2008, 08:06:57 PM
I think the only reason he's not responded at this point is Aussie time difference. For the simple fact that is the only reason I have not yet officially voted for him.

TP you might want to explain yourself and if you are townie you better do a good job! It's not looking good at all right now at all!

Liverbird...totally unacceptable to me that you are on UK time and why no more posts? You see plenty of examples 25 pages to be exact on how to share opinions and sussing folks out as a townie...however you don't bother to get involved anymore than to say...I've caught up, I was gone now I'm here...well...what say you? Nothing more to add?? Not townlike if you ask me at all!

Afroboy....you too young man need to come out and contribute...why aren't you posting? I am thinking you just might work for the dark side at this moment.

It is not acceptable to wait til the deadline and then post your opinions to me that is seriously suspect! If you are townie you'd be on here and asking questions and getting involved, if you aren't...something is not right...especially this far in the game!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 11, 2008, 08:30:11 PM
Trick Pony,  at the moment I am the only one with a vote on you. Thats hardly a bandwagon. I didn't like your posts yesterday and suggested a theory because it seemed to me that you had a strange amount of information. Then Hippo caught you out lying to the town. First you had no powers, and now under some pressure you suddenly have a strong night power. It seems shady and I think you should hang for it, but you do raise a point that people like Liverbird simply have not been part of this game.

(when I look to start my game which I'm modding, next those that have not been bothered in this game simply wont be able to play)



___

Note I tp
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 11, 2008, 08:31:07 PM
Trick Pony,  at the moment I am the only one with a vote on you. Thats hardly a bandwagon. I didn't like your posts yesterday and suggested a theory because it seemed to me that you had a strange amount of information. Then Hippo caught you out lying to the town. First you had no powers, and now under some pressure you suddenly have a strong night power. It seems shady and I think you should hang for it, but you do raise a point that people like Liverbird simply have not been part of this game.

(when I look to start my game which I'm modding, next those that have not been bothered in this game simply wont be able to play)



I wrote that 11 posts ago, and thought I had put it in, but it had left it on the screen. Sorry
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: *Afroboy* on June 11, 2008, 09:49:22 PM
Sorry for the absence, making the most of the unusually good weather.

I'm confused about wes, how are you so sure about some people, there is only a few reasons to why you would be so sure and come out and make them statements like you did so I'm not suspicious at the moment, just confused.

SVH what was your original reason for asking wes to say about his role?

And the missing post from SVH sounds too dodgy to be true to me.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: stevenryals on June 11, 2008, 10:25:38 PM
And the missing post from SVH sounds too dodgy to be true to me.

I'm not in the game, but I can confirm that there were posts deleted because mophead cheated with his final posts (deathscene)..
(sorry for posting TCH but just helping out)
So, all posts quoting what mophead said was deleted i think)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 11, 2008, 11:26:40 PM
who said wes is innocent ? no one apart from him self
who said MIASG is innocent ? himself ...
So I guess they must also be liars well we know one of them is that :cowboy: MIASG


AfroBoy  - townie
Bluestars - never round so probably mafia
Hippo - townie
LaserBlue - probably mafia
Liverbird - who ? probably similar story to Bluestars mafia
Miasg - prime suspect for being mafia still
Sir Hammer- townie
SVH - not convinced either way though townie at the moment
Trick Pony - townie
Wesmancity -  townie
Yorkshire Blue - townie

who the  :censored: said you were innocent?  only you and you've lied about what you are.  Have I ? 

again trying to make it me vs you .. have you not considered i'm townie ? doesn't look like it.

how can you be so sure afroboy is townie?  liverbird and bluestars just becuase they are never around?  hell you were never around much until the recently so I guess going by your logic you must be mafia with them.   SVH - your not convinvced but he must be townie .. that sounds right.  I don't know if anyone else but me is townie.  You seem pretty sure though.

Hammer voted for you but you don't seem to concerned with his vote only mine?  why is that ?  your still to answer and I'm waiting.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 11, 2008, 11:35:57 PM
Sorry for the absence, making the most of the unusually good weather.

I'm confused about wes, how are you so sure about some people, there is only a few reasons to why you would be so sure and come out and make them statements like you did so I'm not suspicious at the moment, just confused.

SVH what was your original reason for asking wes to say about his role?

And the missing post from SVH sounds too dodgy to be true to me.

I wanted to try and catch Wes out, realised I couldnt for various reasons so I posted to say 'Ignore the above post' but it either didnt post due to my connection issues or it was deleted.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 12, 2008, 12:11:09 AM
There were a couple of posts modifed and one removed to clean up after mopheads death post as Steve posted earlier, but nothing in the last couple of days has been removed or edited.

The votes now stand at

Trick Pony 3 votes
LaserBlue  1 Vote
Miasg       1 Vote



6 votes needed to lynch and we have about 2 and a half days to go till the end of Day Three
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 12, 2008, 12:11:59 AM
oh Afro, Bluestars, Liverbird, Miasg, Wes and Yorkshire have not yet voted
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 12, 2008, 01:14:04 AM
that's misleading isn't it - as I did vote but I unvoted .. :)

look TP why have you come out with the new info when you didn't when leading the vote before ?

you need to get on an answer some of the questions that have been aimed at you.  Now isn't the time to sit back and hope for the best.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 12, 2008, 02:15:06 AM
well lets think about it from my perspective for a change, you fools have just lost the game as I will have to role claim to save myself though you will still probably kill me like the fools from the last game to FBN who couldnt see what was right in front of them  :(

well since im going to die I may as well try help explain what I know from this game, I am the roleblocker and apart from the doctor who was killed in night one and possibly gandolf the rest of us are just masons in I think 3 groups based on the night kills. I have been saying that im a normal townie to save my self as Im sus at the moment because of my post against you fools. My role is to try work out who is who so I can block the most obvious person at that late stage in the game, I have already blocked Yorkshire Blue and Laser Blue in nights one and two, they were my prime suspects because of their posts but because mafia have taken two night kills and from previous games only the godfather provides the kill that leaves SVH, Afro, Liverbird, MIASG, and Bluestars as being sus for mafia as I havent blocked them. I believe Hippo, SH, and wes are townies / masons. 

Their is nothing more to say on this so either you believe me or lynch me and find out the hard way, from my point of view I didnt want to stand out as townie so mafia didnt kill me early in the game, as looking like Im not a threat to them is the best way to survive until this stage in the game. 

And MIASG your the only one who has said your innocent so why should I change my vote off you, your game has changed the most in this game apart from mine and I really cant trust you to change my vote, though I can see your point because you may be a townie instead of evil like the past two games.

Anyway I have stated my reasoning so ill leave it up to you. MIASG still has my vote for now though he has claimed to be innocent.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 12, 2008, 06:59:54 AM
first of all your wrong .. I'm not a part of a mason group and I have no powers - just a normal townie.  I'd find it strange if I was the only one (although I do die early (hint hint)) as well since I'm part of the 9 of the fellowship of the ring - I can see what some of the other mason groups would be but it would just be wierd if I was the only townie Plus Faramir was a normal townie.  so far we def know --> Strider - doctor.  merry - mason B. mophead - nazgul, gimli - mason C, gollum - SK.

I'm also not sure what sort of a role blocker you are  .. and it appears not gandalf.  Why did you role block yorkshire and then laserblue?  why not me as you have me at the top of your list! I assume if you survive I'll be the one you role block tonight ..  and I can assure you nothing will come of it - of course that will just mean I'm not the godfather and not rule me out of anything for you.

Now you've pretty much said your not gandalf ..  assumptions I've made are - mason group A - Frodo and Samwise, B = merry and pippen, C = Gimli and Legolas.  Now I doubt very much that you are a mason with a roleblocker feature as you have not alluded to it. 

So the 9 are ..
Gandalf
Aragorn(strider)
frodo/sam -A
merry/pippen -B
gmli/legolas -C
Boromir

plus we know we have faramir.  so at least 10 townies.

your not a mason .. that leaves 2 alive fellowship townies with possible powers .. I'm not gandalf.  You said your not gandalf.

Your arguement has a massive hole in it.  who else that's not in the 9 that's not a mason would have an important roleblocker  role ...  quite frankly I'm pissed that I'm the only fellowship member with no mason buddy or another function/role ! 

I unvoted you yet you still applied all the heat on me despite the other votes for you.  I said for now I had to think of you as an important townie .. but I now feel you've dug yourself a little hole. 

If anyone see if there is a hole in my logic? - if so please point it out.

VOTE TRICK PONY
 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 12, 2008, 07:54:29 AM
The votes now stand at

Trick Pony 4 votes
LaserBlue  1 Vote
Miasg       1 Vote



6 votes needed to lynch and we have about 2 and a half days to go till the end of Day Three

Afro, Bluestars, Liverbird, Wes and Yorkshire have not yet voted
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 12, 2008, 08:53:59 AM
Unvote:Trick Pony for now, just so I can think over on this claim.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 12, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
If you've claimed all of that, you may as well give us a name surely? That way, people will know conclusively whether or not you're telling the truth. Don't quote the PM obviously, just tell us the name.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 12, 2008, 11:35:42 AM
this is starting to look really sus with tp but as there are alot of votes on him i will wait to see what he as got to say
cant we get someone else in for liverbird because this is unfair she could be mafia and we wont have a clue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 12, 2008, 12:13:15 PM
anyone agree or disagree with what I said ?  I'm not getting any responses ..

also I don't want another player - still starting from scratch so what the point .. as I've said before we don't need to kill all the mafia to win this game just survive the ring or however it works to the end. 

if liverbird was mafia godfather than they wouldn't have gotten off there kills as I thnk she was away and didn't even log on during that time - I could be wrong for one of the night phases.  doesn't mean she's not mafia though. 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 12, 2008, 12:30:35 PM
The votes now stand at

Trick Pony 3 votes
LaserBlue  1 Vote
Miasg       1 Vote


6 votes needed to lynch and we have about 2 and a half days to go till the end of Day Three

Afro, Bluestars, Liverbird, Sir Hammer, Wes and Yorkshire have not yet voted
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 12, 2008, 12:43:39 PM
anyone agree or disagree with what I said ?  I'm not getting any responses ..

also I don't want another player - still starting from scratch so what the point .. as I've said before we don't need to kill all the mafia to win this game just survive the ring or however it works to the end. 

if liverbird was mafia godfather than they wouldn't have gotten off there kills as I thnk she was away and didn't even log on during that time - I could be wrong for one of the night phases.  doesn't mean she's not mafia though. 

Well i'd made the same assumptions. It's not difficult to actually work out who a few people are, but i'm not going to point them out obviously.

The mason groups i do believe to have 2 in each, and i believe them to be the characters you've set out. There are obviously people who are ordinary townies, which Trick Pony seemed to go against - like you pointed out, hammerbro was Faramir and simply a townie, so we know that they exist for certain.

And i agree that liver bird isn't the godfather, because of the reasoning you gave. Unless she's been very crafty and been emailing in the decisions or something.

I want to hear what Trick Pony gives as a name, before i make my judgement on the likelihood of his claim being true or not.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 12, 2008, 02:58:53 PM
well lets think about it from my perspective for a change, you fools have just lost the game as I will have to role claim to save myself though you will still probably kill me like the fools from the last game to FBN who couldnt see what was right in front of them  :(

well since im going to die I may as well try help explain what I know from this game, I am the roleblocker and apart from the doctor who was killed in night one and possibly gandolf the rest of us are just masons in I think 3 groups based on the night kills. I have been saying that im a normal townie to save my self as Im sus at the moment because of my post against you fools. My role is to try work out who is who so I can block the most obvious person at that late stage in the game, I have already blocked Yorkshire Blue and Laser Blue in nights one and two, they were my prime suspects because of their posts but because mafia have taken two night kills and from previous games only the godfather provides the kill that leaves SVH, Afro, Liverbird, MIASG, and Bluestars as being sus for mafia as I havent blocked them. I believe Hippo, SH, and wes are townies / masons. 

Their is nothing more to say on this so either you believe me or lynch me and find out the hard way, from my point of view I didnt want to stand out as townie so mafia didnt kill me early in the game, as looking like Im not a threat to them is the best way to survive until this stage in the game. 

And MIASG your the only one who has said your innocent so why should I change my vote off you, your game has changed the most in this game apart from mine and I really cant trust you to change my vote, though I can see your point because you may be a townie instead of evil like the past two games.

Anyway I have stated my reasoning so ill leave it up to you. MIASG still has my vote for now though he has claimed to be innocent.

Lots of problems in what you have posted here for me TP. First off....I'm always supsect when a townie gets to threatening and says things like "you fools have just lost the game". Always makes me suspicious...normal ly a townie that looks to be on the lynch is more begging rather than threatening. It doesn't ring as a townie statement to me and first off the bat just made me really suspicious.

This whole line bothers me.."I am the roleblocker and apart from the doctor who was killed in night one and possibly gandolf the rest of us are just masons in I think 3 groups based on the night kills".
1) like miasg points out he admits he's not gandolf
2) three mason groups...well the b and c gave that away I assume, however why would there only be masons (hobbits), a doctor (aragon), and roleblocker (character???) as the only townies? Many have posted all the possible town roles and seems there possibilities for other roles....not to mention I've not been in a game yet where there was no cop? Seems odd he'd leave those off right? Something is off here.
3) this really bothers me "the rest of us are just masons"....you just said you were the roleblocker...now you say the rest of US are just masons? Which is it roleblocker or mason?
4) Next, TP you state that as role blocker "My role is to try work out who is who so I can block the most obvious person"....okay...well most roleblocker would be INVOLVED in the game right? Where have you been? You want to call others out for not posting....you may have posted but what? NOTHING? You don't even bother to VOTE in this game...well except for one time that I can find
Trick Pony   FOS MIASG   8 (you FOS him early on)
      FOS Footballnewb   8 (well he's turned out to be innocent and well yeah...DEAD)
      VOTE:Stevenryals   11 (Oh here's a vote...and for whom..yep another innocent that is now DEAD)
      FOS MIASG   19 (another miasg)
      VOTE MIASG   23 (Shocker here right...although no evidence against him you offer just simply hey you are picking on me so I'll vote you...good one)
So as a roleblocker you offer us as town only THESE as on your suspicious listing???? Either you are the worst investigator in the history of this game or you are mafia scum!
5) then to top it off....you TELL us who you roleblocked....york shireblue and laserblue....WTF???? That does not make ANY sense....first of all it was really obvious that with all the back and forth either you'd have investigated me, axeman or hippo or miasg. I mean MIASG was even top of YOUR list? So why not investigage him? That makes no sense, you investigate yorkshireblue???? If I was the roleblocker and I saw a player like me or hippo or axeman sussing and asking all the questions back and forth the other day one of THEM would be tops of my list because they were doing my job for me! Instead what reason could you possible suspect yorkshire above anyone else on that list?
6) Your list for godfather is also quite well....unusual to say the least...I have to agree with miasg if liverbird was godfather that would be impossible? How would she be making the kills if she's gone out of town? Not to say i think she couldn't be a mafia person, but godfather that makes no sense. So...let's see you say SVH is godfather here is his voting
SVH      Vote Laserblue   13
      vote hippo   22
      unvote hippo   24 (well he unvoted him, but seems he was suspicious of him and yet if he was godfather and hippo was innocent...why not keep the vote and get a kill on hippo huh?)
      vote laserblue   24
Doesn't look like a godfather player if you ask me.
Miasg   (too many posts to put all his fos's)   
VOTE mophead   18 (turns out was evil and he voted to have him lynched...not godfather like if you ask me?)
      vote trick pony   20 (interesting here )
      vote laserblue   21
      vote trick pony   23
      vote laserblue   21
      vote trick pony   23 (just kind of never looses his opinion of you now does he...hmm...interest ing...not a very hard godfather to pick out who he's wanting to get rid of now...if he's godfather he's quite bad and very obvious...not the move I'd see a player like miasg being...but I could be wrong...who knows..just doesn't seem likely at all to me.)
Bluestars well I've voted twice in this game
VOTE FOOTBALLNEWBY   10 (wrong on that one, but this was on day one, he was not killed til day two)
vote laserblue   20 (voted for him but all the votes turned while I was out of town to mophead....debate still out on laserblue...so I might be wrong or right) Although if you look back on all of my posts I have no problem asking MANY folks in this game questions and fosing just about everyone also. I can tell you I'm not godfather, BUT you putting me on that list of course...along with your assertion yesterday that I've been absent this game make me sure you can't be townie! You didn't even BOTHER to respond to my posts...or even acknowledge that I said I was out of town and posted my quote to prove it.
6) You say that miasg has changed his way of posting JUST LIKE YOU...hhhmm...let's think this through...miasg has always been evil and yet now he's more involved and is saying he's innocent...well...b ased off of your assertions you'd assume he was innocent right? Well instead of removing your vote off of him...you keep it on miasg against your OWN LOGIC? What kind of freaking sense does this make? He even unvoted you prior to this so right there you don't even follow your own logic...but that's happened before right?
7) Where's the response from all of us that question how you can call Wes a mason and then mafia in the same post? As well as laserblue? You don't even follow your own logic? Why BECAUSE YOU ARE LYING!

Sorry....this doesn't fly with me nothing you are saying is adding up to making any sense and instead of staying on here and responding to us townies you give one post and say whatever kill me and it's a big mistake...yeah for mafia cause I think they'll loose their godfather?

Roleblocker....yeah I don't buy that at all....seriously... no name...and no response to Hippo asking you for it...good try but not good enough..got my vote for not making any sense....the only thing we as townies can listen to is FOOTBALLNEWBY...he said you posted pointless mindless dribble and voted to get you out...and oddly enough the day he takes YOU on he ends up DEAD!

The evidence all points out that you are lying and therefore VOTE TRICK PONY




      
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 12, 2008, 03:19:12 PM
unvote laserblue

I dont think anyone is convinced by Trick Pony's role claim so i am saving my vote for the time being
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 12, 2008, 03:21:27 PM
unvote Trick Pony

Don't get me wrong, i haven't changed my opinions, i just don't want a couple of people to come on and finish it off quickly before he gets his chance to tell us his name.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 12, 2008, 03:24:30 PM
Bluestars - 10-90 possible mason probably a Hobbit / gandolf Notice just a few posts ago I was most likely innocent??? Hmmm...what changed...oh yes...me asking him to respond to the fact in this very post he calls some people out as mafia bandwaggoning and innocent...must have not liked me after that huh???
FootballNewb - 50-50 either a mason or mafia godfather, he doesn't say enough to get anything else out of his posts. possibly mason group A? Calls him out as godfather and he wasn't as we know..but he also ends up dead...not looking good
Hammerbro - Dead - Hammerbros body is lost in the rockfall, you morn his loss as he was Faramir and a Townie seemed odd at the time but really odd to me that he'd include all the detail on how our fellow townie met his fate....really weird???
Happy Axeman - 50-50 not sure on axeman, he plays a clever game not giving any character hints in any game, possible serial killer though as he is very through in his though process from the way he is posting.
Hippo - 70-30 mafia to townie though possible serial killer as well. to quiet to tell in regards to trying to investigate players. Now...on this list Hippo is most likely mafia...and yet he didn't roleblock him????? even he HAD him on his suspicions list....and yet now he's 100% townie to him...he's trying to make a friend now isn't he??
LaserBlue - 30-70 mason group B or reg townie at this stage.Interesting coming back to this later
Liverbird - MIA so probably maifa probably to obvious to be the godfather at this stage, though some input would be good ...
Miasg - normal townie possible (mason) - Pippen ? - though he claimed This is NUTS...he calls Miasg a townie here and a mason....what changed his mind...oh yeah...he also questioned him and now TP has changed and got a vote out for him now doesn't he?
MikeBlue - Dead - MikeBlue unfortunately turns out to be Strider/Aragorn and the Doctor
Mophead -  defiantly mafia at this stage though hes irrational at times so he makes it hard to tell.
Sir Hammer - have no idea so 50-50. Ill read over his posts to get a better idea about him.No idea on him here and then yet with no explanation he becomes 100% townie...??
Stevenryals - Dead - Merry was Stevenryals and part of the Mason group B so another townie has been killed and a hobbit as well. Pippen  Am I stupid....didn't he just call Miasg Pippen? So he's saying Miasg was Pippen or the other mason with Steven?
SVH - same as hammer I have no idea so 50-50. Ill read over his posts to get a better idea about him as well.Once again someone goes from almost innocent on his list to godfather??? Without an explanation or...a vote?
Trick Pony - reg townie no powers - yes FBN thats a fact so either believe me or get over it and leave your vote on me, nothings personal your just doing a safety vote in my opinion so you dont provoke any one elses attention, though I still believe your REG TOWNIE NO POWERS....okay I get it you lied...alright...bu t who was it that didn't believe you here??? Footballnewby...and he of course turns out to be killed...nice!
Wesmancity - 10-90 mason group A?
Yorkshire Blue - 50-50 possible mafia / serial killer / reg townie. This is the guy you block...you are 50-50 on him and yet 70-30 on Hippo at this point and you pick him? You don't even have him as top of your own list...hahahaha! and yet even laserblue was by your own account 30-70 to being GOOD???
Also from above the players with townie next to them could also have a special role im just not sure who would have what as no one stands out, though im sure TCH has a roleblocker, investigator, doctor already dead, and possible bullet proof townie though least likely of them all at this stage. This was your list of players and now SOMEONE mysteriously you have narrowed that list to only a roleblocker, doctor, and masons??? You don't even buy your own lies????
Anyway im up the coast again this weekend but I should be on tomorrow morning giving everyone enough time to post a response for me to consider current opinions.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 12, 2008, 04:58:15 PM
unvote Trick Pony

Don't get me wrong, i haven't changed my opinions, i just don't want a couple of people to come on and finish it off quickly before he gets his chance to tell us his name.

Ok I'll take my vote off him for now until he gives us a name, but I still think he is as guilty as sin... there is too much evidence against & too many conflicting posts by him.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on June 12, 2008, 05:48:35 PM
Hey,

Here on my thoughts on everyone so far:

Afroboy - He hasnt been on as much as everyone for me to get a decent thought on him, I think he is town tho.
Yorkshire Blue - not really sure about him, not convinced whether mafia or town , waiting for him to slip up.
Trick Pony - i think trick pony is evil, the last 2 pages ive read just dont add up to me, and think he is contradicting himself a little...
Laser Blue - i think he could may be mafia because hes been going on at me to post more because he wants to try an get everyone to lynch me because he knows im townie , or then again he could be town and needs me to post more to help the rest of the townies ??  ???
Bluestarneyes - Her posts seem to be making sense ,and shes trying hard to find the evil,so im convinced she is town
Hippo - think hes good because hes puttin alot of pressure on & is trying to work ppl out.
Not convinced on MIASG, SVH, Sir Hammer or

Wesmancity - Hes role claim Mason and noone has disputed it , so i believe him for now

My vote is for TRICK PONY I'm 95% sure he's evil !!!

Im off to Puppy school now and will be back on after work about 5:30pm

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 12, 2008, 05:59:19 PM
Ok I'll take my vote off him for now until he gives us a name, but I still think he is as guilty as sin... there is too much evidence against & too many conflicting posts by him.

sorry forgot to bold it again.... unvote trick pony ...until he tells us his charater's name... though I still think he's evil.

nice one liverbird hope you are going to be hanging around from now on.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 12, 2008, 10:39:09 PM
Vote Trick Pony

I will be away till sunday now as im moving, so see ya all then.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 12, 2008, 10:59:07 PM
Well although you've nearly all voted at some point the current state of affairs is


Trick Pony  4 Votes
miasg        1 Vote


Yet to vote, Afro, Hippo, Laser, Hammer, SVH and Yorkshire


Six votes are required to lynch

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 13, 2008, 02:10:40 AM
Well although you've nearly all voted at some point the current state of affairs is
:D
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 13, 2008, 04:27:25 AM
well for those of you who actually read every post would have already known that I role blocked YorkshireBlue and LaserBlue in nights one and two because I thought they were the godfather as they way they were playing at the time seemed way to sus. So Bluestars "IF" you actually read my posts earlier you would have seem that instead of reading over the past few pages to catch up since you have been away.... which is sus in its self but no one has bothered to challenge.

And I have already said I am a reg townie so I wouldnt get voted off as I have an important townie role which I didnt want to disclose at the time as I didnt think it was necessary.  Though since it was challenged and looks like im getting lynched I didnt see the point in hiding my role anymore as its the last thing that can save me from being lynched because of people not reading everything thats already been said.  I didnt roleblock hippo or sir hammer etc during the night phases as they dont seem to be evil though I was trying to figure out whos mafia by seeing peoples reactions to targeting innocent people, something I picked up from Stevenryals from earlier games. 

So after repeating everything once again, I will highlight this for the skim readers among us, im not sure what I can say in reagards to being mod killed etc but im Galadriel an Elf the roleblocker if you dont know it look it up !

now since you have all just waisted 3 days heading no where how about starting to look for mafia talk about focusing on one player everyone of you are in a TP vs MIASG senario apart from those who waited for a response.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 13, 2008, 05:34:09 AM
So after repeating everything once again, I will highlight this for the skim readers among us, im not sure what I can say in reagards to being mod killed etc but im Galadriel an Elf the roleblocker if you dont know it look it up !

now since you have all just waisted 3 days heading no where how about starting to look for mafia talk about focusing on one player everyone of you are in a TP vs MIASG senario apart from those who waited for a response.

Galadriel - hmmm - possible - plausable ..

Can you stop insulting people - you posts are the ones condridicting the next one, plus you've only really just copy and pasted your last post so apart from the name your not offering anything new.  We didn't waste 3 days you confused people with lies in posts and that's what taken the focus of the game ...

can you please re-write or explain your last paragraph ?  it makes no sense to me.  Are you saying for everyone to believe you and vote for me?  or to look into who voted for you ? or everyone waiting for a response is ok ?

and if you've had this important role why the FFFF have you not suss'd more people out?  do you get a response from the moderator if your actions are succesfull? or are you told if someone is guilty or not ?

I've pretty much told you who I am ..  I'd be surprised if anyone out there hasn't worked me out .. why are you still voting fo me ?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Trick Pony on June 13, 2008, 07:15:22 AM
Galadriel - hmmm - possible - plausable ..

Can you stop insulting people - you posts are the ones condridicting the next one, plus you've only really just copy and pasted your last post so apart from the name your not offering anything new.  We didn't waste 3 days you confused people with lies in posts and that's what taken the focus of the game ...

can you please re-write or explain your last paragraph ?  it makes no sense to me.  Are you saying for everyone to believe you and vote for me?  or to look into who voted for you ? or everyone waiting for a response is ok ?

and if you've had this important role why the FFFF have you not suss'd more people out?  do you get a response from the moderator if your actions are succesfull? or are you told if someone is guilty or not ?

I've pretty much told you who I am ..  I'd be surprised if anyone out there hasn't worked me out .. why are you still voting fo me ?

I never said everyone unvote me and vote you, and I do believe your innocent but as above I was trying to see peoples reactions from voting townies, because in previous games when an innocent was voted for the next vote on that person was mafia so I was trying to see how people act instead of how they post as the way people post is full of crap you cannot gather anything from them unless they slip up so you never really get anything from them. I know thats apart of the game I was trying something different.  Which is why I havent tried sussing more people out as I have been watch actions instead. And the repetition from the last post was for the people who just skim through instead of reading every post...

UNVOTE :MIASG 

Im not sure how we go about this now as im probably dead tonight, but I dont see how townies can afford to lynch me at this stage when there are still mafia in the game, so you work it out and ill look over the posts and vote for who I think is the most likley mafia member.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 13, 2008, 09:41:56 AM
I'm gonna believe the Galadriel claim.. not 100%, because you've named someone that could easily not actually be in the game, but if they were, would fit the bill.

You say you'll be dead tonight, but not if you make an educated guess on who the godfather is. It's not me, MIASG, Yorkshire, Laser, Wes, Liverbird or yourself. That only leaves 4 people: Afroboy, Bluestars, Hammer, SVH.

If we lynch one of those today, then you'll have a 1 in 3 chance of blocking the right one tonight. 

I suggest of those 4, afroboy is the most likely to be mafia, but not sure about godfather. He's been on regularly, but is lying low, not wanting to get involved - waiting for the night phase. He wouldn't have wanted to get involved in the TP lynch, because he'd have known that the focus for the next day would be on those who'd voted for him. He has done the same every day, no real involvement at all.

vote afroboy
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 13, 2008, 10:00:47 AM
Just got to a computer,

Un vote Trick pony
Vote laserblue

sorry for the sudden post, back to moving *stressed*
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 13, 2008, 10:45:02 AM
I'm gonna believe the Galadriel claim.. not 100%, because you've named someone that could easily not actually be in the game, but if they were, would fit the bill.

You say you'll be dead tonight, but not if you make an educated guess on who the godfather is. It's not me, MIASG, Yorkshire, Laser, Wes, Liverbird or yourself. That only leaves 4 people: Afroboy, Bluestars, Hammer, SVH.

If we lynch one of those today, then you'll have a 1 in 3 chance of blocking the right one tonight. 

I suggest of those 4, afroboy is the most likely to be mafia, but not sure about godfather. He's been on regularly, but is lying low, not wanting to get involved - waiting for the night phase. He wouldn't have wanted to get involved in the TP lynch, because he'd have known that the focus for the next day would be on those who'd voted for him. He has done the same every day, no real involvement at all.

vote afroboy

So why am I on your list then? If you read my posts earlier on you can see hints at who I am.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 13, 2008, 11:26:05 AM
Well you have just over 24 Hours to go, the current votes are


Trick Pony  3 Votes
AfroBoy      1 Vote
LaserBlue    1 Vote



Yet to vote

Afro, Laser, Hammer, SVH, Trick Pony and Yorkshire
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 13, 2008, 12:36:44 PM
So why am I on your list then? If you read my posts earlier on you can see hints at who I am.

You were on it because i couldn't remember you claiming anything, but i've been back and read through and found the stuff you're talking about.. so i'll take you off it. I'll give my reasoning for the people on the "not possibly godfather" list too..

Hippo: Well, i know that i'm not. And i think, by now, you all should too. But obviously i understand if people don't just trust me.
LaserBlue: Has been blocked
Liverbird: Entirely offline for the majority of the game. Certainly for at least one of the night phases entirely.
Miasg: Has claimed
SVH: Obvious who he is if you read his posts
Trick Pony: Claimed
Wesmancity: Claimed
Yorkshire Blue: Has been blocked

So that leaves:

AfroBoy: Easily the most viable lynch today.
Bluestars: This is the person i'd block tonight, if afroboy is lynched. If he's not, then go for afroboy. Although it's up to you obviously.
Sir Hammer: Seems innocent to me, and i have an idea of who he is. But he is decent at this, and while there's nothing concrete to rule him out of being the godfather, we shouldn't.

One of those three is the godfather, if what Trick Pony has said is true.

And because i may as well get all of my thoughts out there, here are my suggestions for scenarios based on different ones of those three being godfather. I'll let you know the reasons for these at the start of day four, if i make it.

IF it's afroboy, then the other two are fine, and the remaining mafia will be made up of either/both laserblue and liverbird.

IF it's hammer or bluestars, then the mafia will be made up of either/all afroboy, laserblue and liverbird. Won't be all three, but 1 or 2 of them, depending on numbers.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 13, 2008, 12:53:56 PM
Should just clear up where i've said to block bluestars if afroboy is lynched. Don't block her if he's lynched and is the godfather, just if he's lynched and is eiher a nazgul or innocent. Because then it's just a choice between the two for godfatherness.

In my opinion, obviously. But it's backed up by a lot of facts.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 13, 2008, 01:13:24 PM
Oh right yeah, and don't block Hammer if afroboy is the godfather either. Go for laserblue or liverbird in that case.

I really should proof read before i post..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 13, 2008, 01:15:01 PM
You were on it because i couldn't remember you claiming anything, but i've been back and read through and found the stuff you're talking about.. so i'll take you off it. I'll give my reasoning for the people on the "not possibly godfather" list too..

Hippo: Well, i know that i'm not. And i think, by now, you all should too. But obviously i understand if people don't just trust me.
LaserBlue: Has been blocked
Liverbird: Entirely offline for the majority of the game. Certainly for at least one of the night phases entirely.
Miasg: Has claimed
SVH: Obvious who he is if you read his posts
Trick Pony: Claimed
Wesmancity: Claimed
Yorkshire Blue: Has been blocked

So that leaves:

AfroBoy: Easily the most viable lynch today.
Bluestars: This is the person i'd block tonight, if afroboy is lynched. If he's not, then go for afroboy. Although it's up to you obviously.
Sir Hammer: Seems innocent to me, and i have an idea of who he is. But he is decent at this, and while there's nothing concrete to rule him out of being the godfather, we shouldn't.

One of those three is the godfather, if what Trick Pony has said is true.

And because i may as well get all of my thoughts out there, here are my suggestions for scenarios based on different ones of those three being godfather. I'll let you know the reasons for these at the start of day four, if i make it.

IF it's afroboy, then the other two are fine, and the remaining mafia will be made up of either/both laserblue and liverbird.

IF it's hammer or bluestars, then the mafia will be made up of either/all afroboy, laserblue and liverbird. Won't be all three, but 1 or 2 of them, depending on numbers.

Good call. I also will go along with the Gladriel claim for now since it sounds legit, but we just dont know. Afroboy seems a decent lynch today unless he can suggest otherwise, but I know if you roleblock me tonight [trick Pony] then if the mafia go for you, you will die. I am definitely one of the good guys.

Also remember to include Hippo in your list of potential roleblocks....we only have his word right now, no proof

yet I will back him on this one Vote:Afroboy
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 13, 2008, 01:37:49 PM
Well you have just under 23 Hours to go, the current votes are


Trick Pony  3 Votes
AfroBoy      2 Votes
LaserBlue    1 Vote


Yet to vote

Afro, Laser, SVH, Trick Pony and Yorkshire
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 13, 2008, 02:15:03 PM
UNVOTE TRICK PONY aka the :clown:

I'd better go back and read SVH's posts becuase I can't figure out who is is  ???

VOTE AFROBOY because he is on my list as well .. and appears a logical choice right now.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 13, 2008, 02:25:45 PM
right with you now  :D

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 13, 2008, 02:41:35 PM
You travel late into the night and make camp in the woods when you reach them. Exhausted you all tumble into your bedrolls leaving Gimli on guard. You are awakend during the night by the screaming of the Nazgul again, they have surrounded the camp and Gimli is nowhere to been seen. All looks lost.
Suddenly the Elves of Lothlorien appear drive off the the Nazgul. You must hurry, our Queen Galadriel wants to see you. They will not follow you where we are going. You gather up your belongings and Gimli is still missing. Legolas finds himnot far from where he was on guard, he has been killed by a rock just like Merry was. Gimli was Footballnewb and part of Mason Group C

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/Gimli.jpg)

Not far from his body is another, that of Happy Axeman, it seems the Nazgul attacked him just after he finished of Gimli, as Happy Axeman was Gollum and the serial Killer

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/gollum.jpg)


The Elves leave you no more time, with the Nazgul still around you must move and now. They take you into to the heart of Lothlorien when you spend several days resting and in consultation with the Lady Galadriel.
Finally you are ready to continue and the Elves give you some canoes to travel down the river Anduin and it is here that we start day three

Day 3 – From Lothlorien down the River Anduin   

There are now 11 of you left

AfroBoy
Bluestars
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Miasg
Sir Hammer
SVH
Trick Pony
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue

So it takes 6 votes to now cause a lynch. The time limit for Day three is till Midday Saturday UK time if no one is lynched before then.

Alright TP you gave us a name, but in other games we've seen folks roleclaim and turn out evil. I am confused by the name that you give because in the death of Footballnewb it states that we must leave to go meet with "Queen Galadriel"...my confusion is that if you were an active part in this game as the roleblocker with this character...why would we have to go "see" you...why would the roleblocker not be a character more along the lines of the doctor in like Aragon that would be with the group and protect Frodo?

It says above we must leave to go see the Queen, but then leave her to continue to travel on. I'm just confused as to how this character would be an active roleblocker in this game.

TP, how did you call me a mason and/or normal townie on one list...then I QUESTION your truthfulness and one page later I am mafia? You offer nothing to support it, simply change your mind with no explanation.

The other person you had as almost 50-50 townie was Hammer, he comes out with me to question you and then he's on your mafia list as well with no explanation.

I know you have roleclaimed, but you still should still explain yourself.

Something else that bothers me is that you state you "vote townies" to get a reaction....who does this???? Does not even remotely make any sense that you would vote someone you consider townie to get a reaction? If you think they are townie and vote them, then it only gives the mafia a chance to bandwagon, confuse other townies and get an lynch.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 13, 2008, 02:56:59 PM
Should just clear up where i've said to block bluestars if afroboy is lynched. Don't block her if he's lynched and is the godfather, just if he's lynched and is eiher a nazgul or innocent. Because then it's just a choice between the two for godfatherness.

In my opinion, obviously. But it's backed up by a lot of facts.

Oh this one got me this morning....even before my coffee no less...because honestly I was sort of thinking hippo you might be the roleblocker...but when TP claimed it I was confused...then it became clear when I saw your listing...and your not so subtle crap posting here.

Since when in any game or this game have you said...it's backed up by facts and offered none? Or at least tried to save your own butt by posting something to tie me in as a godfather?
Why? Because it's completely illogical. I am not the godfather and nothing in so called "facts" back it up?

Voting Record=what person have I voted for that was innocent and got lynched? ZERO
FOS Record=what person have I FOS that has been innocent and lynched? ZERO

Now...let's look at the "facts" Hippo and those are on you.
Voting Record=
Hippo      FOS: MIASG   1 (says he's townie)
      vote: no lynch   2 (obviously has some mafia advantages)
      vote: Steve Van Halen   3 (appears to be townie)
      unvote: SVH   7 (ditto)
      vote: Yorkshire blue   7 (not sure but on most people's list probably townie)
      FOS bluestars   10 ()
      unvote: yorkshire   10 ()
      vote: SVH   10 ()
      Unvote SVH   12
      Vote Afroboy   12
      unvote afro   12
      vote SVH   12
      vote laserblue   14
      VOTE mophead   15 (evil)
      FOS laserblue   15 (claims to be townie)
      FOS bluestars   15
      unvote mophead   17 (BUT before the lynch he unvotes an evil to vote for laserblue)
      vote laserblue   17
      vote trickpony   25
      UNVOTE TrickPony   26
      Vote Afroboy   27

Now if we look at who voted or fos'd you and ends up DEAD

Hammersbro=votes for hippo....that night DEAD
Happy Axeman=votes for hippo....ends up DEAD
Steven Ryals=FOS's hippo and is not able to log back in to vote but ends up DEAD

Look say what you want Hippo I don't know your role...but you have to have one...but the "facts" as you state against me are pale if anything "godfather" like compared to your record.

It's not like you to just simply say....oh the facts add up and bring nothing to the table....something is not right...can't figure it out yet this morning, but it's just odd to me that all of the sudden you and TP are buddies and somehow me and a barely here afroboy and hammer end up on godfather listing.

Hippo you and TP like to throw around accusations...bring some of these so called "facts" for those on your list.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 13, 2008, 02:58:23 PM
So after repeating everything once again, I will highlight this for the skim readers among us, im not sure what I can say in reagards to being mod killed etc but im Galadriel an Elf the roleblocker if you dont know it look it up !

its an interesting thing that the Mod calls her Queen or the Lady Galadriel but TP only calls her Galadriel ..

yes why would be meeting someone on the way through .. what would have happened if he was lynched early ?  the story would make no sense at that juncture ..

I'm still uneasy with TP's quote "if you don't know it look it up" .. he's done nothing for the town .. he's put pressure on known townies and changed his view on things repeatedly .. bagged everyone for being stupid when it was him that lead us down a path ..

AARRGHHH ... maybe I thought him 1 too many things at work and he's trying to emulate me  ???

now do I follow the story and leave TP here?  I'm not convinced of his roleblocker use or choice either ..

Im not sure how we go about this now as im probably dead tonight, but I dont see how townies can afford to lynch me at this stage when there are still mafia in the game, so you work it out and ill look over the posts and vote for who I think is the most likley mafia member.
he also says "I don't see how townies can afford to lynch me at this stage" - too me that sounds like your not a townie but your telling mafia your ok now .. but we can afford to lynch you later ?


Afroboys been quiet yeah .. but so was footynewb and he was good .. you were quiet and you say you are good ..

UNVOTE AFROBOY as I need to think about it more .. I gotta say I'm not convinced about you TP and I have an uneasy feel in my guy about it ..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 13, 2008, 03:12:42 PM
LOL looking back I realise that if we had of voted no lynch on day 1 we may not have known who was who but we could have saved the doctor and been 1 fellowhip member up ..

actually it might make sense now - gollum is dead and the fellowship just have to have the ring on day 7

"If all the Hobbits are killed the ring then falls into the hands of one of the fellowship they can only hold the ring for one Day phase before it consumes them and they die during the night phase. If the Fellowship runs out of players Gollum claims the ring, he can carry the ring indefinitely without any ill effects. If Gollum is then killed then the Mafia win. If Gollum is dead before the last of the Fellowship are consumed by the ring then the Mafia win."

day 3 - no lynch
night 3 - 1 leaves 10
day 4 - no lynch
night 4 - 1 -leaves 9
day 5  - no lynch
night 5 - 1 - leaves 8
day 6 - no lynch
night 6 - 1 - leave 7
day 7 - no - win

so the fellowship has 9 .. 3 are gone .. 4 max to die - it's a no brainer  ;)
but it would also take the fun out of the game  :'(
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 13, 2008, 03:30:48 PM
Since when in any game or this game have you said...it's backed up by facts and offered none? Or at least tried to save your own butt by posting something to tie me in as a godfather?
Why? Because it's completely illogical. I am not the godfather and nothing in so called "facts" back it up?

Okay, i'm gonna respond to this bizarre posting before i get on to the brilliance of the one that preceded it. If you read what i was saying, you'll know that you were only on that list because there was nothing concrete to rule you out. The facts that you seek are in the other list, where i've ruled people out of being the godfather - there are no facts to link either you or hammer to being godfather, hence why i've actually eliminated you in my mind and voted for the one remaining person on that list. I've actually offered the facts that you and hammer are definitely innocents if not the godfather. Work it out.

My whole post was entirely logical "if what Trick Pony has said is true", as i pointed out. Obviously some of the people shouldn't be ruled out if it's not, as you've pretty much proven. Laserblue is now also a possible godfather, and i think we've pretty much confirmed him as mafia if Trick Pony is evil. He tried to defend him earlier in the game, as i pointed out, and he tried to guarantee his safety today as well by stating that he'd blocked him.

unvote afroboy
Vote Trick Pony


Brilliant pick up on the Galadriel thing. Probably a game winner, well done. Some of us can acknowledge valid reasoning, despite the fact our own name has been mentioned you see  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 13, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
LOL looking back I realise that if we had of voted no lynch on day 1 we may not have known who was who but we could have saved the doctor and been 1 fellowhip member up ..

actually it might make sense now - gollum is dead and the fellowship just have to have the ring on day 7

"If all the Hobbits are killed the ring then falls into the hands of one of the fellowship they can only hold the ring for one Day phase before it consumes them and they die during the night phase. If the Fellowship runs out of players Gollum claims the ring, he can carry the ring indefinitely without any ill effects. If Gollum is then killed then the Mafia win. If Gollum is dead before the last of the Fellowship are consumed by the ring then the Mafia win."

day 3 - no lynch
night 3 - 1 leaves 10
day 4 - no lynch
night 4 - 1 -leaves 9
day 5  - no lynch
night 5 - 1 - leaves 8
day 6 - no lynch
night 6 - 1 - leave 7
day 7 - no - win

so the fellowship has 9 .. 3 are gone .. 4 max to die - it's a no brainer  ;)
but it would also take the fun out of the game  :'(

That would only be if the doctor protected someone the mafia targeted every night though, whats the chances of that happening?

Trick Pony's mistakes have been clearly pointed out and look very iffy. if you are going to call a bluff at least get the story right.

Still not sure on you though hippo, you seem to believe some with little argument but not others.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 13, 2008, 05:01:20 PM
That would only be if the doctor protected someone the mafia targeted every night though, whats the chances of that happening?

Nah, what he's saying doesn't rely on that, it includes us losing 1 per night. However, it doesn't really work as to get the automatic victory, we have to have a hobbit alive; not just one of the fellowship, and potentially they could all be killed off during the night phases we have left. But more importantly, it just wouldn't be a very satisfactory way to win. It'd be dull.

Still not sure on you though hippo, you seem to believe some with little argument but not others.

Like you told me to do with your early posts, read my very recent ones..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 13, 2008, 05:16:30 PM
Okay, i'm gonna respond to this bizarre posting before i get on to the brilliance of the one that preceded it. If you read what i was saying, you'll know that you were only on that list because there was nothing concrete to rule you out. The facts that you seek are in the other list, where i've ruled people out of being the godfather - there are no facts to link either you or hammer to being godfather, hence why i've actually eliminated you in my mind and voted for the one remaining person on that list. I've actually offered the facts that you and hammer are definitely innocents if not the godfather. Work it out.

My whole post was entirely logical "if what Trick Pony has said is true", as i pointed out. Obviously some of the people shouldn't be ruled out if it's not, as you've pretty much proven. Laserblue is now also a possible godfather, and i think we've pretty much confirmed him as mafia if Trick Pony is evil. He tried to defend him earlier in the game, as i pointed out, and he tried to guarantee his safety today as well by stating that he'd blocked him.

unvote afroboy
Vote Trick Pony


Brilliant pick up on the Galadriel thing. Probably a game winner, well done. Some of us can acknowledge valid reasoning, despite the fact our own name has been mentioned you see  ;)

Like I said Hippo it was before my coffee and I was pretty nervous about you just accepting TP especially after all the really questionable things he totally avoided answering at all.

I am interested to see what others have to say at this point.



Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 13, 2008, 05:32:56 PM
Like I said Hippo it was before my coffee and I was pretty nervous about you just accepting TP especially after all the really questionable things he totally avoided answering at all.

I had in mind that he could be lying, think i said something about him having picked someone who may not even be in the game. But without somebody coming out and counter claiming it, or disproving it like you've done, i had nothing to validate my thoughts, so had to work on the assumption - albeit a wary assumption - that it was true.

I am interested to see what others have to say at this point.

Me too. Very quiet considering the deadline's so soon.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on June 13, 2008, 06:29:31 PM
You were on it because i couldn't remember you claiming anything, but i've been back and read through and found the stuff you're talking about.. so i'll take you off it. I'll give my reasoning for the people on the "not possibly godfather" list too..

Hippo: Well, i know that i'm not. And i think, by now, you all should too. But obviously i understand if people don't just trust me.
LaserBlue: Has been blocked
Liverbird: Entirely offline for the majority of the game. Certainly for at least one of the night phases entirely.
Miasg: Has claimed
SVH: Obvious who he is if you read his posts
Trick Pony: Claimed
Wesmancity: Claimed
Yorkshire Blue: Has been blocked

So that leaves:

AfroBoy: Easily the most viable lynch today.
Bluestars: This is the person i'd block tonight, if afroboy is lynched. If he's not, then go for afroboy. Although it's up to you obviously.
Sir Hammer: Seems innocent to me, and i have an idea of who he is. But he is decent at this, and while there's nothing concrete to rule him out of being the godfather, we shouldn't.

One of those three is the godfather, if what Trick Pony has said is true.

And because i may as well get all of my thoughts out there, here are my suggestions for scenarios based on different ones of those three being godfather. I'll let you know the reasons for these at the start of day four, if i make it.

IF it's afroboy, then the other two are fine, and the remaining mafia will be made up of either/both laserblue and liverbird.

IF it's hammer or bluestars, then the mafia will be made up of either/all afroboy, laserblue and liverbird. Won't be all three, but 1 or 2 of them, depending on numbers.

If i havent been online during any night phases , doesnt that prove that im an ordinary townie??? (Im still trying to get use to this game & roleblock & claim etc... )

If there us 3 mafia/evil left then i definatley think its out of Afro boy, Trick pony and laser blue.. (possibly) but im really not sure what to think of Afro boy because he never really says much , and has hardly any comments compared to everyone else. I know i havent but im still getting use to everyone, and how ppl are trying to play.






Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 13, 2008, 06:58:05 PM
In case I miss the deadline I am going to go

vote Trick Pony

This is because I dont believe his role claim and I think he cocked his story up. That and I dont think I will be online from here to the deadline and I dont want my vote to go to waste.

If we are wrong and he is not lying we know who to go after. Speak to you all soon folks
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 13, 2008, 07:43:14 PM


If there us 3 mafia/evil left
Us 3 mafia left?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 13, 2008, 10:50:19 PM
tp looking th most sus now and after the role claim he isnt really doing himself any favours
so i will vote trick pony
Us 3 mafia left?
i think that is just a typing errror
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 13, 2008, 11:51:06 PM
Tp I unvoted you to give you a chance to reveal your character & explain your role
 if you had reaveled you where a character that could not be disputed
or could tell us a succesful block then I would believe you
but all this is too convenient in the way none of it can be checked
I'm hoping I'm right ...... Vote Trick ponyP
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 14, 2008, 01:39:50 AM
LOL looking back I realise that if we had of voted no lynch on day 1 we may not have known who was who but we could have saved the doctor and been 1 fellowhip member up ..

actually it might make sense now - gollum is dead and the fellowship just have to have the ring on day 7

"If all the Hobbits are killed the ring then falls into the hands of one of the fellowship they can only hold the ring for one Day phase before it consumes them and they die during the night phase. If the Fellowship runs out of players Gollum claims the ring, he can carry the ring indefinitely without any ill effects. If Gollum is then killed then the Mafia win. If Gollum is dead before the last of the Fellowship are consumed by the ring then the Mafia win."

day 3 - no lynch
night 3 - 1 leaves 10
day 4 - no lynch
night 4 - 1 -leaves 9
day 5  - no lynch
night 5 - 1 - leaves 8
day 6 - no lynch
night 6 - 1 - leave 7
day 7 - no - win

so the fellowship has 9 .. 3 are gone .. 4 max to die - it's a no brainer  ;)
but it would also take the fun out of the game  :'(

it was part joke part serious but the big hole in this is that the mafia just have to make 1 vote to count in the day -- DON'T vote NO LYNCH
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 14, 2008, 01:59:14 AM
Nah, what he's saying doesn't rely on that, it includes us losing 1 per night. However, it doesn't really work as to get the automatic victory, we have to have a hobbit alive; not just one of the fellowship, and potentially they could all be killed off during the night phases we have left. But more importantly, it just wouldn't be a very satisfactory way to win. It'd be dull.

Like you told me to do with your early posts, read my very recent ones..

I think it sort of says you need a hobbit  to survive but
"If all the Hobbits are killed the ring then falls into the hands of one of the fellowship they can only hold the ring for one Day phase before it consumes them and they die during the night phase. If the Fellowship runs out of players Gollum claims the ring, he can carry the ring indefinitely without any ill effects. If Gollum is then killed then the Mafia win. If Gollum is dead before the last of the Fellowship are consumed by the ring then the Mafia win."

there are 6 of us left .. to get the ring to the finish line ..

If TP is telling the truth he couldn't hold the ring anyway... but he can still lynch and block.
If i havent been online during any night phases , doesnt that prove that im an ordinary townie??? (Im still trying to get use to this game & roleblock & claim etc... )

If there us 3 mafia/evil left then i definatley think its out of Afro boy, Trick pony and laser blue.. (possibly) but im really not sure what to think of Afro boy because he never really says much , and has hardly any comments compared to everyone else. I know i havent but im still getting use to everyone, and how ppl are trying to play.

no it doesn't prove your a townie only not the current godfather.    and "the us 3 mafia" looks like a fruedian slip maybe ? 

FOS Liverbird

If TP survives then he could role block tonight .. problem is do we trust him enough for that ..

I just can't get over the galadrial facts in the Mod's post .. just doesn't make sense.  Go to page 13 and read through the death posts from TCH .. it mentions other thing like the lake creature or people who voted for the lynch and players still alive .. the next one does say we meet up with the Queen but you could deduce that she is not part of the alive players.

VOTE Trick Pony only becuase if he survives the night I probably wouldn't believe who he said he roleblocked anyway.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 14, 2008, 02:08:36 AM
my vote made it 7 and we only need 6 for a lynch ..

So Trick pony is gone.  Sayonara :clown: - you better have been evil or you cocked it up for the town again.


tp looking th most sus now and after the role claim he isnt really doing himself any favours
so i will vote trick pony i think that is just a typing errror
  what do you think liverbird ment to type ?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 14, 2008, 03:28:49 AM
Your journey along the river Anduin has been uneventful and you camp in the evening along the back of the river. You split up to go and gather firewood.
Suddenly you hear Frodo crying for help, you race off in the general direction of the cries drawing your weapons as you go. You arrive in a small clearing, Frodo has Sting, the sword Bilbo gave him drawn, trying to hold off Trick Pony.

"Give me the ring" he hisses

Without thinking you draw your sword and leap in to attack Trick Pony, suddenly arrows fly in from Legolas' bow, he turns to swat them away and you crack him on the back of the head knocking him cold. The rest of you quickly gather up his limp body and lynch him from the nearest tree.

Trick Pony was a Nazgul

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/nazgul.jpg)

You leave his body hanging and quickly gather up your belongings and hop back in the boats and travelling until dark. A forced march brings you close to the Dead Marshes which you will have to travel through tomorrow. YOu set up camp and get some much needed sleep.

We are now into the night phase for Day Three, you can now use your night options if you have them.
We will start up again at Midnight Sunday UK time with Day Four, have a good weekend.

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 15, 2008, 11:25:13 PM
It's a restless night for all of you, but for Frodo the weight of the ring is now getting tremendous and sleep is hard to come by. He hops up and wanders around, the ring whispering constantly. Suddenly there is a screech of the Nazgul, they are still out hunting for them. The lure of the ring is too much and Frodo slips on the ring.
The one eye suddenly lights up Frodo's world and vision, it all he can see. He summons up all his strength and wrenches the ring off and the eye disappears. Disorientated though Frodo has entered the dead marshes and slips into the merky depths.

"Master Frodo!!"   he hears, with all he has left he throws the ring in the direction of the voice as he slips into the merky depths of the marshes.

Frodo was Sir Hammer and part of Mason group A

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/Frodo.jpg)

Sam catches the ring and is about to jump in after Frodo but Gandalf appears to stop him.

"Samwise Gamgee" he says "He is gone, the burden has now fallen to you. We must leave immediately as the Nazgul are close"

You gather up your belongings and head into the dead marshes and so starts Day Four.

The remaining players are

AfroBoy
Bluestars
Hippo
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Miasg
SVH
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue

With 9 of you left it only takes 5 votes to cause a lynch. The time limit for Day Four if you cannot reach 5 votes is Midday Friday UK time.

Good Luck
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 15, 2008, 11:37:00 PM
Oh shit!

Well good luck guys, Sam will not fail and Middle Earth shall be saved.

(I waited about half an hour online waiting for the new day to start [which is quite sad] and then I find out some bastards killed me.)

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 15, 2008, 11:38:36 PM
Im thinking that there must be 4 mafia as there are 4 Nazgul in The Lord of the Rings.

We need to chose the next lynch carefully as we have a great advantage at the moment.

3 masons, one from each group. could the remaining masons PLEASE NOT COME FORWARD UNLESS IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY. No claiming just because you are put under a bit of pressure.

Its late and Im tired so I will have to look into this properly tommorow.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 16, 2008, 08:55:48 AM
at least we still have a hobbit or 2 alive - it means they won't die at night unless the mafia picks them out.

I thought you were a mason hammer but not in that group

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 16, 2008, 12:06:04 PM
Right, well that's not good, but i'm thinking we have 2 hobbits left, 3 others of the fellowship and then 2 standard townies against their 2 evil. So we still SHOULD win, assuming we don't do anything stupid, and that we kill somebody evil today.

And luckily for all of you, there's no chance that that isn't going to happen. I know people said not to roleclaim, but i've thought it through, and i think the pros of making it only a one person mafia against 6 (after tonight), far outweigh the cons of potentially losing myself.

I'm Gandalf, and the cop. Over the past few days, i've investigated Hammer ("with me"), Bluestars ("with me") and Afroboy ("against me"). Obviously, the godfather appears innocent to investigations, and that we therefore shouldn't rule bluestars or anyone else out of being that. But what we know for certain, is that afroboy is evil. And with that in mind:

vote afroboy
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 16, 2008, 12:42:14 PM
UGH...well I am happy to see that TP did turn out just how I figured and we got rid of him, but really sad that they got Frodo! We can still win this town...and yes Hippo I think I am going to believe you...I've said all along I thought we had a cop in the game and your game play in my mind falls along with being the cop. And as bad as it stinks you wasted a night investigating me at least maybe now don't have to worry about who to vote for today.

Nuff for me Afroboy has looked suspicious all along and I see no reason to believe you.

VOTE AFROBOY
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 16, 2008, 12:49:46 PM
so we have

AfroBoy  2 votes
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 16, 2008, 01:05:43 PM
VOTE AFROBOY .. that's now 3 votes

If Bluestars is the godfather then turning a vote back onto your nazgul was a strange move.  I doubt that happened.  TP probably would be alive right now if it wasn't for that.

Was TP's post that he investigated yorkshire and laserblue there to throw us off or make the godfather seem innocent ? were there late vote posts to get in make them seem innocent ?

if afro is what we assume ie nazgul then maybe we should roleclaim the rest tomorrow as we are likely to be left with 1 hobbit  ..  surely all we'll end up is with 2 people role claiming the same thing .. OR DO WE ? ??? ???

I think the masons should stay hidden - at least for today .. so the mafia can't distinguish who the last 2 hobbits are.

I'm Boromir and have no powers at night but I'm one of the fellowship

9 left ...

fellowship left 5 :Gandalf, Boromir, Sam, Pipen, Legolas

godfather alive, nazgul left ?

fellowship dead 4: aragon, merry, gilmli, Frodo

townies dead 1: faramir

Gollum - SK dead

Mafia x 2 - dead

by my count 5 fellowship plus 1 godfather .. that leaves 3 others which makes me uneasy ..

wes still surving the night's makes me a touch uneasy - why haven't they taken out a known mason ?




Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 16, 2008, 01:07:51 PM
I will go with you lot, VOTE AFROBOY
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 16, 2008, 01:32:56 PM
well it's now

AfroBoy 4 votes


only 5 votes required to cause a lynching
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 16, 2008, 01:43:25 PM
It will be very interesting when Afroboy goes and see who hasnt voted for him! :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 16, 2008, 02:06:20 PM
Well that just means that Hippo will be a gonna in the night phase so I am not going to vote for afroboy just yet so we can narrow down who the other is

I know we all think laserblue so is that the plan? Afroboy and then Laser?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: hippo on June 16, 2008, 02:29:35 PM
Yeah, i guess i may as well put my updated thoughts on the godfather out there.

Laserblue is very much the most likely in my mind. Trick Pony defended him twice:

- Firstly when he made a list indicating he thought laser was a mason, despite the fact that laser was looking very dodgy at the time. In fact, despite saying that laser was probably a mason and mophead was definitely in that post, he ended up voting for neither. What does that tell you?

- Secondly, when Trick Pony claimed roleblocker, he made the calculated decision to say that he'd blocked laserblue and therefore he couldn't possibly be the godfather.

And finally, when mophead and laserblue were out ahead in terms of being lynched on day two, neither of them voted for each other until it was pointed out just how suspicious that was. Trick Pony also didn't vote for either of them on that day, and afroboy voted mophead just after he made it quite obvious he was mafia, but when he did so, he said "i'm left with no other option at all than to vote mophead". So he did it apprehensively.

There's just loads of evidence for it. And even if it's not right, there's so many people who are confirmed innocents, that it'd be impossible for us to lose surely?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 16, 2008, 02:32:32 PM
shall we get this over and done with now? Ive thought Laser was evil since the end of day one, you all know that.

hands up if you want me to cast my vote now
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 16, 2008, 11:23:38 PM
Sorry guys time zones and all but.............



as you slowly make your way through the marshes one of the Nazgul discovers you, Gandalf urges you on and says he will take care of this.

"The ring must reach Mt Doom at all costs"

You run on casting glances back the battle between the two is fierce, Gandalf already weakend by the attacks on the previous nights is in trouble and the Nazgul Sword pierces his body. His the strikes the Nazgul with his staff and a bright light appears and they then there is a loud explosion. When the dust settles they are both gone.

Gandalf was Hippo and the Cop but was taken out by Afroboy a mafia terriorist and Nazgul

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/gandalfthegrey.jpg)

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/nazgul.jpg)

You run on as fast as you can and by the end of the day you have crossed the marshes in Mordor.

The terrorist action has triggered the night phase so we are now in the night phase for Day Four. We will be back up in a Min of 24 hours and a max 48 hours. All posts received after the PM to activate the terrorist action have been deleted.

See you at the Black Gate
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 18, 2008, 01:15:24 AM
Exhausted but alive you sleep poorly. You are close to your goal, and tomorrow you have to try and get throught the Black Gate. Hopefully you can avoid being found by the Nazgul again. However luck is not on your side and a Nazgul discovers you once more, the ring is wanting to return to it's master badly.
The fellowship protect the ring bearer and try to escape but there is none. Suddenly Pippen breaks from the group and heads off back towards the dead marshes, he is waving what looks like a ring at the Nazgul.

"Here it is, come get it"

The Nazgul leaves you and chases Pippin, giving you time to get away with the ring bearer. Your trick has worked.

However poor old Pippin is caught and killed by the Nazgul who is enraged to find that it is just a normal ring, not the one ring.

Pippin was SVH and part of Mason group B

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/pippin.jpg)


Day Five now begins and you have to make the Black Gate

Players left are

Bluestars
LaserBlue
Liverbird
Miasg
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue


With 6 players you need 4 votes to cause a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 18, 2008, 04:15:34 AM
 :help: :censored: mafia terrorists

damn didn't see that coming ..  how many of them left ?  damn not lynching afroboy before all this .. and to top it off SVH they killed you at night.  what's the term he who hesitates loses ?


2 days to go & 6 left ...

fellowship left 3 : Boromir, Sam, Legolas

godfather alive, nazgul left ?

fellowship dead 6: aragon, merry, gilmli, Frodo, gandalf, Pippen

townies dead 1: faramir

Gollum - SK dead

Mafia x 3 - dead

is it 3 vs 3 ?  4 vs 2 ? or 5 vs 1 ?   

VOTE LASERBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 18, 2008, 08:39:31 AM
I have always said Laserblue is evil but we need to make the RIGHT lynch, im holding my vote till i hear what everyone has to say. We all need to speak up people and win this dam game.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 18, 2008, 10:55:27 AM
that's true but all I'm sure about is me and 2 others .. that means it could be a 3 v 3 situation ..

I think the evidence that TP tried to save laserblue is enough for me to vote for him

we only have 1 hobbit remaining and they need to stay alive today because legolis and boromir can only hold it for 1 night before it consumes them. 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 18, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
only 1 vote cast so far for LaserBlue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 18, 2008, 01:34:13 PM
laser blue is looking evil but i will give him time to explain himself
the ones that are looking sus to me are
laser blue obvious reasons
liverbird lack of posting
bluestars seems quiet and just trying to pass through unnoticed
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 18, 2008, 01:46:47 PM
bluestars seems quiet and just trying to pass through unnoticed

I think the pickup on Trick Pony was pretty noticable.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 18, 2008, 02:40:36 PM
Okay, well it seems quite obvious to me that laserblue is evil, plain and simple. Few things lean me towards that conclusion.

1) His voting record
voted nolynch...mafia advantage
voted mikeblue...turned out to be the doctor and huge town loss
never officially voted for mophead...he turned out mafia

2) Who's not been suspicious of him
never mentioned as an FOS or vote from Afroboy...and afroboy turns out mafia...not only that chooses to take out Hippo that had mentioned not just Afroboy but had voted for Laserblue over three times and was choosing between the lynching of the two.
mophead doesn't even mention laserblue until he's about to go down and it is between the two for a lynch.
Trick Pony...NEVER mentions Laserblue in an fos or vote, even when TP is going down and laserblue puts a vote on him at one point, only to unvote it later, TP still never mentions him or votes for him.

Last night SVH's last post says who to take out either Laserblue or Afroboy, that kept him from voting quicker, and next thing we know he's been taken out by mafia.

I'm willing to listen to Laserblue, but he logged on today for the first time since last Friday!!! Then he logged on today and posts nothing...so to me that speaks volumes to me. What else is there to say this morning?

I think Liverbird had previously not been active, but has come on and I am not sure she's a townie, but her voting and actions have been more townlike in my opinion than the evidence against Laserblue.

I have no reason to suspect Miasg to be totally honest because every person that has turned out mafia has fingered him as suspicious. His voting records is almost perfect except he did vote for footballnewb, but changed his vote to laserblue before FB was lynched.

Wes, well he's been quite clear he thinks laserblue is evil since almost his first post, and the fact he's remained alive appeared to be weird, only now looking at it, if he was killed off the fingers would have gone directly to laserblue as he's not really voted much of anyone else.

yorkshireblue, well play attention mate, I'm here, have been, was yesterday and voted for afroboy. I've also voted for TP and both have turned up mafia. Based on your voting record for TP and mophead and the fact that mophead and afroboy both voted for you, I'm an leaning towards you being innocent as well.

Based on all of this, I honestly don't see any reason to put my vote on anyone else.

VOTE LASERBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 18, 2008, 02:55:46 PM
:help: :censored: mafia terrorists

damn didn't see that coming ..  how many of them left ?  damn not lynching afroboy before all this .. and to top it off SVH they killed you at night.  what's the term he who hesitates loses ?


2 days to go & 6 left ...

fellowship left 3 : Boromir, Sam, Legolas

godfather alive, nazgul left ?

fellowship dead 6: aragon, merry, gilmli, Frodo, gandalf, Pippen

townies dead 1: faramir

Gollum - SK dead

Mafia x 3 - dead

is it 3 vs 3 ?  4 vs 2 ? or 5 vs 1 ?   

VOTE LASERBLUE

I was thinking in my mind it was 5 vs 1, but in going back and reading, unless I am just reading more into it, the following is mentioned in the killing of SVH

"You are close to your goal, and tomorrow you have to try and get throught the Black Gate. Hopefully you can avoid being found by the Nazgul again."

If that is true, then we have Nazgul still alive today, meaning that we have a godfather and Nazgul still alive, maybe just one, not sure, but I have to admit thinking back now, making me a bit nervous. I was thinking if we lynched Laserblue today that might end the game, either way does not change my vote, but the ideas that all that are left are townies now puts doubt in my mind.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 18, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
Vote Laserblue, very good points bluestars and its time for his ending >:D
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 18, 2008, 05:53:43 PM



 :bleh:DIE TOWNIES DIE :bleh:DIE TOWNIES DIE :bleh: DIE TOWNIES DIE
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 18, 2008, 06:04:11 PM
vote laser blue alot of reasons and the last post
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 18, 2008, 06:04:41 PM
vote laser blue
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: wesmancity on June 18, 2008, 06:06:44 PM


 :bleh:DIE TOWNIES DIE :bleh:DIE TOWNIES DIE :bleh: DIE TOWNIES DIE

I f*****g knew it!!! ya bad boy
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: laserblue on June 18, 2008, 06:25:33 PM
I f*****n knew it!!! ya bad boy


 ;) Can't beleve I got this far...... but who should I take with me :hmmm:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on June 18, 2008, 06:51:22 PM

 ;) Can't beleve I got this far...... but who should I take with me :hmmm:

Ha Ha, Well i think my vote is for Laserblue OBVIOUSLY...

Well hopefully if Bluestars if right and it is 5v1 does that mean us townies have won?????
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 18, 2008, 10:51:45 PM
A long arduous day finishes at the Black Gate, however it is heavily manned and troops are pouring in and out. You observe for a while wondering what to do.

"We're never going to get in here"

"How about going through Minas Morgul ?"

The group agrees and is about to head off but notice LaserBLue running for the gate waving and pointing in your direction.

Legolas launches a couple of arrows, but the ring bearer slips on the ring and uses its power to pick up LaserBlue and slam him into the Gate killing him.

LaserBlue was Sauron and the mafia Godfather

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/sauron-1.jpg)

Wrenching the ring off the ring bearer is shocked at what's happened. "We must distroy this thing"

So you set off away from the gate and find a suitable place to camp for the night.

Day 5 is over, we are now in the night phase and will be back up in 24-48 hours. Those with night actions please use them.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 19, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
Sleep is hard to come by as you are in Mordor, Mt Doom is in the distance and only a day away. You somehow have to make your way up the stairs of Cirith Ungol.

"Let me go and scout the way" Legolas suggests

No one is in the mood to argue so off he goes. Sneaking past Minas Morgul the gates open and the Witch-king of Angmar head of the Nazgul comes forth. Legolas is seen. He launches arrows as faster than seems possible but Angmar swats them away. Orcs poor from the gate and Legolas is overwhelmed and killed.

Legolas was Wesmancity and part of Mason group C

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/legolas.jpg)


Day Six now starts with just 4 players left

Bluestars
Liverbird
Miasg
Yorkshire Blue

So you need 3 votes to cause a lynch. The deadline if required for Day 6 is Midnight Tues UK time.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 19, 2008, 11:03:13 PM
i thought that was a going to be it so there is atleast 1 left
the most sus to me now is liverbird because of the lack of posts which is a mafia tactic to glide through
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 19, 2008, 11:26:10 PM
for me its liverbird or yorkshire ..

so its 2 v 2 or 3 v 1 ...

 :o tention  :o

if its 2 v 2 then we can only win if its a draw today and the toss falls our way otherwise we'll lose in the night.  :'(


so its me, sam ,  Angmar head of the Nazgul , plus 1 other left....

yorkshire tell me who you are so I don't vote for you

liverbird tell me who you are so I don't vote for you


 ;) Can't beleve I got this far...... but who should I take with me :hmmm:
  WTF did that last comment mean ?

with 3 votes laser comes out and basically confirms it without the 4th vote .. yorkshire ends it for him and then liverbird also wacks on the vote .. we all had no problems voting for him but yorkshire you did hold back until you had no choice .. this makes you my no. 1 suspect


Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 19, 2008, 11:29:30 PM
vote YORKSHIREBLUE as the other 2 didn't log on since the laserblue death scene .. only 1 person could have logged on and sent a post ..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 19, 2008, 11:31:19 PM
i was th main one in mopheads lynch
i voted tp and laserblue didnt have time to vote afroboy
i am a normal townie believe me or not
all these role claims ar just spoiling the game and making it pointless
but i believe liverbird is mafia
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 19, 2008, 11:33:20 PM
they could have posted before as the day had already ended
notice that liverbird also had the last vote on laserblue
which i think didnt matter anyway
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 20, 2008, 12:04:16 AM
vote YORKSHIREBLUE as the other 2 didn't log on since the laserblue death scene .. only 1 person could have logged on and sent a post ..

Interesting point there miasg...right before the lynch of laserblue I think I was certain there was more than just the godfather left. When looking over the posts of you yorkshireblue for the past few days it's obvious you are attempting to point fingers at anyone but yourself. Very confusing that you would say liverbird for lack of posting, she JUST posted..matter of fact think she was the final vote for laserblue.
Either way, of all of us left, you are looking most suspect.


VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE

Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 20, 2008, 12:08:33 AM
Interesting point there miasg...right before the lynch of laserblue I think I was certain there was more than just the godfather left. When looking over the posts of you yorkshireblue for the past few days it's obvious you are attempting to point fingers at anyone but yourself. Very confusing that you would say liverbird for lack of posting, she JUST posted..matter of fact think she was the final vote for laserblue.
Either way, of all of us left, you are looking most suspect.


VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE


how am i looking most suspect
liver bird as just posted that might be her 5 post of the game
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 20, 2008, 12:09:52 AM
actually his vote condemed and liverbirds didn't officially count .. but if she is townie then yorkshire knew it didn't matter.

TP saying he blocked you also doesn't help you I believe yorkshire

Also the fact you don't say or refuse to name yourself pretty much puts the nail in the coffin for me.  It'll be interesting to see what liverbird says though .. surely with 1 night phase to go roleclaiming just might help the town win it before then ..
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 20, 2008, 12:14:07 AM
well 2 votes for Yorkshire from Miasg and Bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 20, 2008, 12:17:50 AM
well she wont role claim and just vote for me and then you will see you made a mistake
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: MIASG on June 20, 2008, 12:36:31 AM
if that happens then you haven't helped. 

what are your thoughts on me ? and bluestars then ?  if you think it's 3 v1 then surely you'll help the town out.  and your not. 
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 20, 2008, 02:47:56 PM
well she wont role claim and just vote for me and then you will see you made a mistake

Look if you were a normal townie and knew you were about to go down to a lynch then why not offer your role? What could it hurt? That's the thinking of a normal townie, the fact that you won't offer us anything to me says all it needs to say.

Liverbird has not posted much, agreed, and early on in the game she didn't say much and was called out by many folks to do so, however since laserblue called her out and she returned, she's suspected him, voted for TP and voted for laserblue. As far as voting goes, she's about as even with you.

I don't know if she's mafia or that you are, but the reason I lean towards you is your post yesterday first thing was to come on and suspect me and liverbird for not posting, it was very odd to me that you'd say I wasn't posting. So it put doubt in my mind, then the fact that you didn't vote for laserblue right away, looked suspect to me, it was quite obvious he was evil, then the next day you come on and act like you thought the game was going to be over, well I think even before laserblue was lynched I made a post making it pretty clear the game was most likely not over and we had one more mafia member.

You are a smart player yorkshire, and Liverbird is new, so it's hard to determine with her as much as with you. You are more active this game, which made me inclined to think you townie, but I think you've just played a very good mafia game up to this point.

If you are townie as you say, you'd see you have nothing to loose at this point by naming your role, the fact you won't says all it needs to....you are mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Liverbird on June 20, 2008, 07:07:18 PM
for me its liverbird or yorkshire ..

so its 2 v 2 or 3 v 1 ...

 :o tention  :o

if its 2 v 2 then we can only win if its a draw today and the toss falls our way otherwise we'll lose in the night.  :'(


so its me, sam ,  Angmar head of the Nazgul , plus 1 other left....

yorkshire tell me who you are so I don't vote for you

liverbird tell me who you are so I don't vote for you
  WTF did that last comment mean ?

with 3 votes laser comes out and basically confirms it without the 4th vote .. yorkshire ends it for him and then liverbird also wacks on the vote .. we all had no problems voting for him but yorkshire you did hold back until you had no choice .. this makes you my no. 1 suspect




I didnt want to roleclaim because i thought we wernt meant to but if it means saving all us townies then Im Arwen... shes not evil is she  ::)

Yorkshire your sus to me now.. I hope your not trying to make me look evil so you can survive another day, i know i havent posted much in this whole game but the first week i couldnt because it was TT and i had no laptop.. And im just trying to get use to the game really. There is always a couple of pages to read when i get chance to log on as i cant get on in the day, and by that time noone is online .

But anyway i honestly thought it was all townies left, but obviously not...

my vote is for yorkshire blue and then hopefully Townies must of won after that??
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 21, 2008, 03:28:29 AM
As you climb the stairs of Cirith Ungol, you look down on the fortress of Minas Morgul and the activity there. The remaining Nazgul that killed Legolas flying around searching for you. At the top of the stairs you feel relieved to be able to put Minas Morgul out of site.

"I have you now" hisses a voice and you spin round to see Angmar sword drawn waiting for you.

So the races unite and Elf, Human and Hobbit charge at Angmar forcing him back towards the ledge. Sam sneaks in under his defences and strikes at his foot.

"For Frodo and the Shire" he yells

Boromir strikes drawing Angmar's sword wide "For my Brother"

Now off balance and defenceless, Arwen unleashes and arrow at Angmar's chest "For Legolas"

The arrow tips Angmar off the edge and he falls to his death.

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x174/rosudgeon/LOTR/nazgul.jpg)

Angmar was the remaining Nazgul and Yorkshire Blue. The town have triumphed and take the ring to Mt Doom and cast it into the fires, the war of the ring is over and good has won over evil.

So ends the game the Town has won with 3 players left

Miasg is Boromir
Liverbird is Arwen and
Bluestars is Sam and the ring bearer

well played everyone and see you on the otherside of the fence next game.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 21, 2008, 06:19:07 PM
WOOHOO!

First ever for me to make it til the end...YEAH!  :clap: :yahoo:
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: Liverbird on June 21, 2008, 10:19:28 PM
 :D

Wooo hooo
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: MIASG on June 22, 2008, 01:27:21 AM
see I'm not always evil  :D  and I thought I pretty much played the same

gotta say bluestars I was worried about you big time until the Trick Pony lynch .. awesome pick up and probably the best pick up I've seen so far in the games I've played in ..

liverbird well lasted - I think the fact you were new kept you in

to all the townies - yeah we won :)
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 22, 2008, 02:38:10 AM
the killing of Gollum swung it largely toward the town, if he'd stayed another couple of nights it might have been a different story
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 22, 2008, 02:43:42 AM
some different roles in this one apart from the 3 mason groups

Mike was most upset that you lynched him

Strider – Doctor + life Aragorn

Aragorn: Dubbed Strider, he is a Dúnadan Ranger and the heir to the throne of Gondor. He travels with the Fellowship on their journey to Mordor. He is unsure of whether to become King following the failure of his ancestor, Isildur, to destroy the Ring.
You are the Doctor a townie who has the ability to protect another player from harm at Night. Each night you may send me the name of a player you want to protect, and if someone tries to kill that player, they will be saved from death. You may protect yourself only once.
You start the game off as Strider, if you are lynched during the day then you are dead. If you are nominated to be killed at night it will fail once then you become Aragorn and I will inform you or the change. Once you become Aragorn you have the choice at night to either Kill or Cure someone during the night phase Be careful with this power as if you accidentally kill a hobbit you are doing more harm than good. If you are nominated to be killed at night a second time then you will die.


Hippo was caught by the role claim

Gandalf the Grey – Cop + life (White)
Gandalf the Grey: A wizard and mentor to Frodo Baggins, who helps him decide what to do with the Ring. He becomes the leader of the Fellowship after it is decided to take the Ring to Mount Doom and destroy it.
You are the cop, a townie who has the ability to investigate other players. Each night you may send me the name of someone you want to investigate, and i will PM you back and say if that person is “with you” or “against you”.
You start the game off as Gandalf the Grey, if you are lynched during the day then you are dead. If you are nominated to be killed at night it will fail once then you become Gandalf the White and I will inform you or the change. When you are Gandalf the white you have the option at night to investigate or kill. Be careful with this power as if you accidentally kill a hobbit you are doing more harm than good. If you are nominated to be killed at night a second time then you will die.


Sauron could not be killed at night until the Nazgul were dead

Sauron – Godfather

You are the Dark Lord and therefore the Mafia Godfather!

Your fellow mafia members are the Nazgul

They are ……….

Every night you can communicate with all of your mafia members and decide on 1 person to kill. You must then PM me with that person. You can also discuss your plans for the next day etc.
You are in charge and therefore you are the one that will perform the kills during the night. You will also appear innocent if investigated.

You also can only die by lynching, if you are selected during the night phase to be killed then you select one of your Nazgul to die in your place. If all the Nazgul are dead then you can be killed in the night phase.

You win when all of the non-mafia are dead


The Nazgul all became terrorists in day 4 and 5


From Day Four and Day Five when we reach Mordor if you are still alive you are allowed to become a terrorist and kill yourself and one player of your choice. This happens to all surviving Nazgul but only one Nazgul can do this and the first PM I receive I will act upon. Once used the remaining Nazgul revert to normal henchmen again.
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: MIASG on June 22, 2008, 11:46:55 AM
good twists .. in a way it was good they didn't come out as it could have been very confusing ..

great game TCH
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 22, 2008, 11:02:12 PM
the three mason groups totally threw me off this game, got to say that for sure....great game, it was interesting not knowing all the roles were the same and the stories were great...
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sir Villain on June 23, 2008, 06:39:33 AM


"For Frodo and the Shire" he yells

Boromir strikes drawing Angmar's sword wide "For my Brother"

Now off balance and defenceless, Arwen unleashes and arrow at Angmar's chest "For Legolas"

For England, James?

No. For me!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: Mikeblue on June 23, 2008, 11:38:51 AM
Wish I could have played!
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: stevenryals on June 23, 2008, 05:06:20 PM
hammer.. you feel like updating the hall of fame?
Title: Re: Mafia 13 Lord of the Rings - Town Win
Post by: Sir Villain on June 23, 2008, 06:51:54 PM
hammer.. you feel like updating the hall of fame?

Urgh, ok! I will do once my game is finished. By computer time is limited here, so Im gonna finish off this game first.

Good luck everyone and cheers to TCH for modding a class game. Well done to the Ringbearers (Me and Bluestars) for carrying the ring so heroically!!!

Mafia is quality