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Title: Mafia 8 - The Kingmaker - Assassins Victory
Post by: hippo on October 07, 2006, 12:22:34 AM
As dawn breaks upon the tranquil kingdom of Solomonia, peace reigns. The whole population lay asleep, serenaded by the sweet songs sung by the birds.

?THE KING IS DEAD?, the town crier bursts through the streets, disturbing the tranquil scene, proclaiming the terrible message of woe to the previously relaxed townsfolk.

The news quickly sees the town descend in to chaos. Within the chaos and panic, rumours start and spread like wildfire that a group of assassins have infiltrated the society. They have murdered the king, and are looking to seize control of the throne and the land. Soon a lynch mob forms knowing that they have to find these assassins and execute them.

But with nobody to lead them in the wake of the king?s death, the town degenerates in to anarchy. People who were spotted looking suspicious the day before are murdered. When it turns out they were innocent, their accuser is murdered. When the chaos hits it?s peak, and the baseless accusations are flying in all directions along with the violence, a cloaked figure emerges from the shadows.

?Townsfolk, you must listen to me? he booms, ?I am from the Royal Society of Kingmakers? he adds, flashing his royal signet as proof, ?and we operate a system that will solve your problems.? He continues and explains how each day, one townsman will be given the opportunity to be king. At the end of the day, the king will be the one who decides who the town should execute. Other members of the town will be given the opportunity to voice their opinions and persuade the king  on who it should be, in order to help him make his decision, but in the end, it will only be the king that has the means to carry out an execution. By making sure only one person has the power to execute, it will be difficult for the assassins to sway the decision.

He assures the town: ?While it may be possible for an assassin to become the king, it will always be a trustworthy citizen operating as the kingmaker. Talk with each other and trust in the Kingmaker's judgment, as they will help shape the fate of our kingdom.?

And with those parting words, he vanishes.



NOTE:
Could all players read the rules, because they are slightly adapted from the normal mafia game. So it'd help to familiarise yourself with the new voting system first. Cheers.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker
Post by: hippo on October 07, 2006, 12:24:53 AM
RULES

> Only the King's vote counts. To help keep track of the thoughts of the townfolk, you may still vote, and I will still keep track of vote counts. If you wish to make your vote noted, it must be in bold. If you do not bold your vote, it will not be counted.
> Because citizens' votes do not affect the lynch decision, you may vote for more than one player at once. If you no longer find someone suspicious, unvote for them.
> Once the day's King has arrived at their decision of who to kill, they must post EXECUTE: NAME in bolded and all capital letters. After that post has occurred, no more posts will be allowed, not even from the King. The King may not change their mind after an execution order has occurred, so BE SURE if you want to execute someone.
> Days will last a minimum of 24 real-life hours. There should always be a chance for discussion before an execution.
> If the Kingmaker dies and there are no other players that are eligible to become a Kingmaker, then the town will revert to a lynch mob (voting and lynch, good ol' mafia style).
> Each day must end in an execution. "No Lynch" is not an option in this game. If I post a deadline and the King fails to make an execution in the allotted time, the King will be executed for his incompetence.
> If you'd like a vote count, feel that an inactive player needs to be prodded, or otherwise need to get my attention, let me know in bold.  I?ll try to make sure there's a vote count on every page to make it easier to reference back, but I can?t guarantee every page.
> If you plan on being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period, please post a notice in the thread or send me a private message. Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate ? don't leave us hanging. If you're unable to play for whatever reason, just drop me a PM letting me know, please just don't disappear. 
> The game is not to be discussed outside of the thread, unless your role specifically states otherwise.
> Once your death scene has been posted, you're dead. Please stop typing. I'm fine with a few parting words such as "bah, go town", but nothing with game-affecting content. I'm pretty lenient about this, but don't push it. Note that this does not apply if you are executed. NO TALKING AFTER THE EXECUTE ORDER HAS BEEN POSTED.
> Don't edit/delete previously submitted posts. If you accidentally double post or make a tragic formatting error, just let me know and I'll fix the problem. I'm pretty good at catching stuff like that anyway.
> If you have any questions, just ask. I'm cool like that.
> Remember, it's just a game. It's supposed to be fun. Do your part, and stay active.

FLOW OF THE GAME

We will be starting with day.

Day - The kings is revealed, along with any deaths. Players discuss who they believe to be the assassins, and try to convince the King who to execute. Players may vote to keep track of their suspicions, but their votes do not count. Once the King posts an execution, the game immediately enters twilight.

Twilight - Once the King posts an execution, no more posts may be made, not even by the King. Twilight will last until I come in and post the execution scene.

Night - All players make their night actions . Once I have all the choices, we enter the next day.

And repeat til the end of the game..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker
Post by: hippo on October 07, 2006, 12:37:13 AM
ROLES

A number of assassins have infiltrated the town, forming one anti-town killing group. An unknown amount of players have received the following PM:

Mafia wrote:
Quote from: Mafia
You are one of the assassins, along with [name(s)]. Since your plot to take the throne quietly has failed, you will take it by force by eliminating the townsfolk until you outnumber the populace. Each night, you may talk with your fellow assassins and choose another player in the town to kill that night. Any member may send in the kill choice, it does not matter (since there are no Roleblockers or Trackers in this game). If I receive multiple kill choices, I will go with the most recent choice submitted. To the populace, you appear like normal townsfolk, which earns you the right to become the King, if the Kingmaker so chooses. However, the Royal Society of Kingmakers can not be fooled as easily, so you will never have the opportunity to become the Kingmaker. You win when your group outnumbers the town.

The townsfolk bring their own talents to the aid of the town. Any of these roles may be in the town, and there may be more than one of a particular role. There may also be roles listed who do not appear in this town. The only role guaranteed to appear in the game from the following is that of the Kingmaker.

Cop wrote:
Quote from: Cop
You are a town guard. Each night, you may patrol the town and investigate another player in the town. You can determine (with absolute accuracy) if that player is an assassin. Because of your duty to the throne, you will never receive the opportunity to become a Kingmaker, but you may still be chosen to take the throne as King. You win when all the assassins are executed.

Doc wrote:
Quote from: Doctor
You are the town doctor. Each night, you may visit another player's home and attend to any wounds they have. If the assassins have attempted to kill that player that night, they will be spared. Because your duties consume all of your time, you will never receive the opportunity to become a Kingmaker, but you may still be chosen to take the throne as King. You win when all the assassins are executed.

Vigilante wrote:
Quote from: Vigilante
You are a radical vigilante. Upset with the Kingmaker system imposed on the town, you have decided to save the town on your own terms. Each night, you have the option to kill another player in the town whom you believe is an assassin. Because of your strong opposition to the Kingmaker system, you will never receive the opportunity to become a Kingmaker, but you may still be chosen to take the throne as King. You win when all the assassins are executed.

Mason wrote:
Quote from: Mason
You are a member of the secret Masonic society in town. Along with [name(s)], you all know each other to be innocent and not part of the assassin conspiracy. You may also discuss privately at night matters regarding the town. Your bond to the Masons prohibits you to join the Kingmaker society, and while you may never become a Kingmaker, you may still be chosen to take the throne as King. You win when all the assassins are executed.

Townie wrote:
Quote from: Townie
You are an ordinary citizen of the town. You have no abilities at night other than getting a good night's rest. However, as an honest, unbiased native of the kingdom, you have the potential to join the secret Kingmaker group and become a Kingmaker. Until you receive your invitation, you have only your wits and vote to defend yourself. You win when all the assassins are executed.

Hero wrote:
Quote from: Hero of the People
You are the beloved Hero of the People. You've spent your life standing up for the common man and striving to help them overcome the oppression of the monarchal system. If the King decides to execute you during the Day, the people will rise up and slay the King and your life will be spared. Your tie to the commonfolk means you can never accept an invitation from the secret elitist society of the Kingmakers, but you may still be chosen to take the throne as King. You win when all the assassins are executed.

Kingmaker wrote:
Quote from: Kingmaker
You are the Kingmaker. Each night, you will select two names to become king. One will be your first choice, and the other shall take that place should the first choice not make it through the night alive. If you should die, a randomly selected townie player will become the new Kingmaker. You win when all the assassins are executed.

Any role other than the kingmaker may become king, but only a normal townie may become the kingmaker.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2006, 12:48:38 AM
RULES


> Days will last a minimum of 24 real-life hours. There should always be a chance for discussion before an execution.


24?

thats numberwang
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker (ROLES SENT, GAME STARTS WHEN ALL CONFIRM)
Post by: hippo on October 09, 2006, 06:51:17 PM
Yorkshireblue has been selected as the town's first king.

The following players are alive:

Afroboy
Amadjin
Billyman
Bluestarsneyes
ChurchofHalo
Currieman
Dotleo
Fozza
Happy Axeman
Laserblue
Manic
Mo1ey UK
Sir Hammer
Stevenryals
Steve Van Halen
The Quigmaster
Tommy Catons Hairstylist
Yorkshireblue - KING

It is now DAY 1
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker (ROLES SENT, GAME STARTS WHEN ALL CONFIRM)
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 09, 2006, 06:53:34 PM
Finally the day starts!

Well I think Amadjin should be executed, he's always a good place to start :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2006, 07:07:46 PM
Lets not get too hasty!

Hello, your highness, all hail King Yorkshire.
I am Sir Hammer, one of your faithful knights.


May I suggest that us humble peasants put forward a system of government that stops the King taking action too hastily.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 09, 2006, 07:13:05 PM
Finally the day starts!

Well I think Amadjin should be executed, he's always a good place to start :laugh:

If only Hagler was playing we could have all had a bye for the first round :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Quig on October 09, 2006, 07:23:20 PM
Just making an appearance. I think that Sir Hammer should die. He is bumsucking to the King. And he looks evil. Really evil.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 09, 2006, 07:42:38 PM
Yeah calm down Hammer, lets kill Amadjin first and go from there :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2006, 07:43:59 PM
If only Hagler was playing we could have all had a bye for the first round :D

He was the most obscure 1 enormous yak lump in these games, but occasionally was genius. His poems in the Post Restriction games where absolute gold, along with his hip-hop battles with Hippo.

Back onto what I said earlier about a system to stop the King just slaying who he wants and wasting a day.

___________________ ___

I think we should put forward a few rules.....
How about these?

a) The King must Execute a person who gets the majority vote......or have a very good reason not to.

b) If a King acts rashly when it comes to executions, (moans about just wanting the day over bullshit or executes someone he personally just does not like) then the King should be treated harshly the next day and treated as possible assasin filth.

c) We should use the votecounts as a List Of Execution which should help the King come to a decision.


What does everyone think of these three quality rules that we should abide by in this time of lawlessness.
___________________ _______________

Vote:TheQuigMaster

Rubbish accusements combined with a lack of respect for the King.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: MOLEYman on October 09, 2006, 08:36:04 PM
never trust a man who likes sheep  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: dotLeo on October 09, 2006, 09:19:26 PM
The big question is, is whether Yorkshireblue will actually be on anytime soon!!! :P
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2006, 09:28:49 PM
He is the King after all. Im sure he is busy meeting foreign officials and attending important functions.

It is interesting to note that Hippo has not guaranteed us a Cop, a Vigilante, Masons, a Hero or a Doctor in this game just said they might be here. I guess that is to stop any Cop out there claiming knowing he will be safe.

Does anyone want to add to the 3 sacred rules I have put forward?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 09, 2006, 09:48:12 PM
I think they sound good but we need more involvement at the moment. Where is everyone!?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 09, 2006, 11:25:42 PM
The big question is, is whether Yorkshireblue will actually be on anytime soon!!! :P
the king is here now i aint really missed much just been busy there asnt really been much said so y u sounding like ive not been on for ages
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2006, 11:30:50 PM
the king is here now i aint really missed much just been busy there asnt really been much said so y u sounding like ive not been on for ages

All Hail the King!

Silence, Dotleo you peasant! How dare you disrespect the King like that.

Vote:Dotleo for acting like the unworthy peasant that he is.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: dotLeo on October 09, 2006, 11:42:52 PM
Pipe down Sir Hammer!  Who made you protector of the king?    :-X

the king is here now i aint really missed much just been busy there asnt really been much said so y u sounding like ive not been on for ages

Nearly killed myself trying to say that in one breath! Would have been an easy first day lol
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 10, 2006, 12:23:55 AM
Do we have to talk like that Hammer?  I mean... I dont know how they used to talk in england...

I think your rules suck, he's the king, and he makes the rules..  You don't Sir hammer..  Dont say anyone is being rude or disrespectful to the king while you PUBLICLY UNDERMINE HIM. 

Your rules could only help you, the king in this game is an innocent this day for sure, so it's his call who to execute, just as the game rules say.  Undermining the king on your 2nd post.  you should think twice before telling the king how he will vote or how he will perform his duties as a servant to the people, our king.   biotch!

vote hammer
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 12:29:53 AM
Do we have to talk like that Hammer?  I mean... I dont know how they used to talk in england...

I think your rules suck, he's the king, and he makes the rules..  You don't Sir hammer..  Dont say anyone is being rude or disrespectful to the king while you PUBLICLY UNDERMINE HIM. 

Your rules could only help you, the king in this game is an innocent this day for sure, so it's his call who to execute, just as the game rules say.  Undermining the king on your 2nd post.  you should think twice before telling the king how he will vote or how he will perform his duties as a servant to the people, our king.   biotch!

vote hammer

We don't actually know that he is innocent at all. We know whoever is Kingmaker is innocent, but we don't actually know for sure that the King is innocent. I am not undermining King Yorkshire, but I think these rules would be a good system for all the future Kings.

If we don't put in a set of rules then we would have Kings running amok and the game would be over every quickly and the assassins would benefit. It interests me to see that you are opposed to my rules. I will have to keep my eye on you Mr Ryals. I just want to make sure each day ends after enough discussion.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 10, 2006, 04:10:02 AM
Being my first attempt at this, there are enough rules already to get the hang of and Hammer want to add some more !! That's enough for my vote !!

So, stop Hammer time


vote hammer

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 10, 2006, 04:12:29 AM
alas young one,you still have much to learn about the game,and whats up with you currie?why the pointless votes for me?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 10, 2006, 12:35:45 PM
der hammer is suckin up too much and its not even is game and he is askin for rules to be changed i think if someone did execute someone randomly then they will get executed so far u are looking the most suspicous der hammer and i have to wait atleast 24 hours to execute someone

currieman y did u randomly vote adjamin
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 12:44:37 PM
So one else thinks that we should take time on the decision to execute? If we don't have a form of rules at all then we might as well just randomly pick a name out of a hat as it looks like thats what the lynchings will be like.

Some people have not even posted yet and I am being treated like the most suspicious person for putting forward an idea which would mean that us (as in all the Town players) would get a say in what happens today instead of it all being down to one man. Otherwise what is the point in the rest of us being here and being able to vote?

My sucking up is a role based joke. My role is of a lowly peasant with no abilities thus I was joking by playing in character. Sorry if that confused and offended people. Obviously that makes me mafia.

der hammer is suckin up too much and its not even is game and he is askin for rules to be changed i think if someone did execute someone randomly then they will get executed so far u are looking the most suspicous der hammer and i have to wait atleast 24 hours to execute someone

currieman y did u randomly vote adjamin

He voted randomly because thats what everyone should do. Random voting is the only way to get information on Day One, so I suggest every goes on www.random.org, randomly picks someone and votes them. Then bandwagons form, people claim, people ally and we get information.

Im not asking for the rules to be changed. Hippos rules are set in stone, but they are there for interpretation and for us to set some guidelines for every King to follow.

We have to wait for everyone to arrive first anyway.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 10, 2006, 12:49:28 PM
it says in the rules that a day must last at least 24 hours
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 10, 2006, 01:05:34 PM
Er, where have I voted for Amadjin? ::)

I was just saying we should kill Amadjin as it is a joke from previous games as he and Hagler always seem to be the ones that look guilty early on.

I'm not fully opposed to Hammer's idea of rules but at the end of the day it is down to the king to decide who to kill. We just have to try and persuade him to kill the evil people instead of innocent people.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 01:15:36 PM
it says in the rules that a day must last at least 24 hours

I know, I think thats do make sure that at least some time is passed.
I think that we should all keep voting and when someone gets 10 votes then you should seriously think about executing that person. All I want is to make sure that you (and all the future Kings, including me if I ever get picked) doesn't go on what they alone think. My rules (or other people variations on them if anyone wants to put forward their own) should make sure that alot more pro-town people get there say.

I think you should abide by these rules Yorkshire, because for all we know you could be mafia. The only person we know is not Mafia is the Kingmaker.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 10, 2006, 01:30:19 PM
The only person we know is not Mafia is the Kingmaker.
Ah yes, but we don't know who the kingmaker is
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 10, 2006, 01:35:24 PM
i dont really have to vote for that person what if hes good and been bandwaggoned and if the king goes with the majority of the votes all the time what is the point in havin a king
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 02:25:34 PM
i dont really have to vote for that person what if hes good and been bandwaggoned and if the king goes with the majority of the votes all the time what is the point in havin a king

"What if" are the biggest two words in mafia!

"What if" you make a wrong decision and kill someone who is just a good guy trying to help out?

These are meant to help you, not meant to cause moaning. If enough discussion is held then we can make sure that it is not a bad bandwagon.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 10, 2006, 03:23:17 PM
yes but if the king goes with the majority every time theres no point in having a king if i execute a good guy then i chose wrong and its a bad mistake
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 10, 2006, 04:00:22 PM
Good morning to all in this wonderful town. Yes it is I, Mr Fozza Gump. Hear yee, Hear yee. My involvement in thee mafia may be slightly disproportinate to thee normal amount.This is thusforth that yee be working night shifts this week and next. Therefore although it may be 4 o in the noon, my day has just begun and thus will be awake til 8 in the morrow.

This means that i will have many enjoyable nights where random posts may be placed on this here site. Dust also mean that one will not be posting when the sun is shining from the bright blue sky.

As one may say in thee ghetto. Peace out my homeboys and holla at thee boy.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 10, 2006, 04:27:33 PM
Hi Everyone, Hammer is confusing me already with all that he's said, I'm not accusing anyone for posting a suspicious reply yet although I wil say that when i did the www.random.org thing 10 times amadjin came out 4 times. A wild method it is but at the moment there isn't much else to go on apart from sir hammer confusing everyone which is a bit weird.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: dotLeo on October 10, 2006, 05:23:05 PM
Guys, be logical now.  Hammer is only talking sense (for once!).  We don't want to give the king free reign to do whatever they want, and while we maybe shouldn't be laying down extra rules, some unnofficial guidelines would be useful for consistency.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 05:31:52 PM
yes but if the king goes with the majority every time theres no point in having a king if i execute a good guy then i chose wrong and its a bad mistake

and you should be lynched for it.

Anybody who is confused with what I have said need to read it abit longer. All I am saying is that we (all of the good guys) can take control of the situation back from "the king" and have a say in what goes on. Its tough for one person to make a good decision especially someone fairly new to the system like Yorkshire.

I am getting increasingly worried that I am going to be Executed for making sense and making valid points, so I ask anyone who thinks that setting some guidelines on what the King should do to back me up.

_________

Leo posted during that rant. Unvote:Dotleo. Glad to see someone else agrees. Currieman too mentioned he thought it was a good idea as well.

Im going out now and just hope I have not been randomly executed.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Quig on October 10, 2006, 05:54:06 PM
Your not making sense. Your trying to turn this unique game into a standad game of mafia as then the mafia get more of a say then at the moment. Our votesare meaningless, except that they can assist the King in making his decisions.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: hippo on October 10, 2006, 06:22:33 PM
King Yorkshire Blue, your people have begun to put forward a list of suspects. It shall henceforth be known as "The Vote Count"

Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer
Sir Hammer: Stevenryals, Tommy Catons Hairstylist
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 10, 2006, 06:46:07 PM
laser blue as been on alot today and asnt posted

does anyone no where axeman is he normally posts alot
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: dotLeo on October 10, 2006, 07:03:34 PM
yeah, laserblue is reading right now...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 10, 2006, 07:11:32 PM
I wondered when someone was going to notice

Thought i'd better make an appearance as my name has been mentioned

the reason i've been on a lot but not had anything to say is as this is my first game i thought i'd look in a bit and try to pick the idea.

anyway now i'm here i might as well have my 2 pennys worth

i understand what hammer is saying about the voting thing but i don't know if i agree, it seems a bit like changing the rules & anyway at the end of the day it does not matter who we vote for if its only the kings vote that counts anyway i quite like that idea cause then i don't have to make any reel decisions..... well not right away anyway......coward eh
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 10, 2006, 07:13:19 PM
actually i was typing not reading.... i'm just not that fast ;D

 
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 09:45:50 PM
Your not making sense. Your trying to turn this unique game into a standad game of mafia as then the mafia get more of a say then at the moment. Our votesare meaningless, except that they can assist the King in making his decisions.

What do you mean?

There are 18 people playing and probably about 3,4 or 5 members of the Mafia so if everyone has a say then thats at least 13 townies over a handful of mafia. We are not sure for certain that Yorkshire Blue isn't mafia anyway.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 10:04:54 PM
If someone else proposes a better plan then fine, but until then it just seems that people want the days lynch just to be decided by one person picking a name out of a hat or going for the only person so far to register an interest in catching mafia.

My roles a bit dull and since I can't do anything at night, not day as my vote doesnt even count I just wanted to make a system where everyone was involved. Otherwise whats the point in voting. Just play the game as normal, vote whoever and when someone gets over half the votes then the King has to either execute that person because the Town want him dead or have a good reason to execute someone else. Only Mafia want us to rush this decision.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 10, 2006, 10:07:49 PM
where is everyone theres alot of people still to have a say
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 10, 2006, 10:12:27 PM
I thought I posted something last night but that doesnt seem to be the case. A lot of you know how I feel about the first day, not much evil is filtered out in the first day. I shall be keeping an eye on the snake steveryals, that guy is deceptive  :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 10:16:21 PM
where is everyone theres alot of people still to have a say

These are the people who have not posted anything meaningfull yet,

Amadjin
Billyman
Bluestarsneyes
ChurchofHalo
Happy Axeman
Manic
Mo1ey UK

Hopefully a few votes might get some action from them

These votes will be removed when those people post something about our situation

Vote:
Amadjin
Billyman
Bluestarsneyes
ChurchofHalo
Happy Axeman
Manic
Mo1ey UK
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 10, 2006, 10:19:55 PM
Hey hammer Im sure you have set in your own rules only 1 vote allowed!!

I understand where your coming from though. You wait for ages to actually play a game yourself and the game starts so slowly. Itl pick up, it always does.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 10:23:23 PM
Hey hammer Im sure you have set in your own rules only 1 vote allowed!!

I understand where your coming from though. You wait for ages to actually play a game yourself and the game starts so slowly. Itl pick up, it always does.

Im not saying that we should play normal mafia rules, this is a different game. Im just saying that a few -not rules as such- , but Guidelines to HELP the king pick the right person to execute so he can't be held personally responsible if he makes a bad choice. Surely you can see that this is a good idea?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 10, 2006, 10:29:25 PM
were not gettin anywhere y dont we just leave the rules as they are its hippos game and his rules
if the king gets it wrong then the king the next day can just execute them
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 10:31:45 PM
were not gettin anywhere y dont we just leave the rules as they are its hippos game and his rules
if the king gets it wrong then the king the next day can just execute them

So your saying if you make a wrong decision then you should be killed? This way you avoid all blame for the execution unless you took things into your own hands. I think your innocent and the chances of catching Mafia first day is still anyway so this way its not your fault if it goes tits up
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 10, 2006, 10:36:04 PM
the rules have been set i can see your point hammer but hammers set the rules and wont change them we need to be gettin on with the day its just about been a day now and theres alot of people stillto have there say i would like to hear from everyone before i choose someone for execution this one seems to have set off alot slower then all the others
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 10, 2006, 10:50:05 PM
I do like Hammer's rules because they seem the fairest way to help the king make a decision and execute someone.
If the king just picks someone then it really is completely random whether they're innocent or evil.

But until everyone contributes we don't really have much to go on anyway
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 10, 2006, 10:54:19 PM
mo1ey uks been on awhile and asnt posted
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 10, 2006, 10:58:41 PM
apart from our votes seem pointless,there is nothing to go by,therefore theres no point to posting pointless shit
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2006, 11:03:52 PM
Yeah, I have only posted so much because people are directly talking to me. The way to flush out lurkers is with votes, Currieman

and Yorkshire, Im not trying to get Hippo to change his rules. They are set and are good rules, its just how we choose to use them. I have played in games with this system in the past and the tryed and tested way is to set a few basic guidelines designed to help and protect the King.

What about these then?

Suggestion One-The King may only execute players if the town has at least given that player 33% of the votes (we can keep a running list for "executable players" or something)
Suggestion Two-The King must execute a player if the town gives them 66% of the votes (or an otherwise overwhelming majority, we may change the percentage at the town's discretion)
Suggestion Three-The King may execute a player if there is direct (investigative, most likely) evidence against that person, even if that person has not reached 33% of the votes


apart from our votes seem pointless,there is nothing to go by,therefore theres no point to posting pointless shit

Thats exactly why im trying to set up the Guidelines. You could have said what you think about the main argument of the day, whether or not we should use it?
I don't want people to post pointless shit, just to say what they think about the posting that has already happened.

Unvote:Amadjin
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 10, 2006, 11:10:04 PM
i think the king should go along with the majority as you said,unless the king has clearcut evidence on somebody else,which im sure youve also said,and considering theres 50+ posts,wheres the usual crowd?

Vote
Billyman
ChurchofHalo
Happy Axeman
Manic
Mo1ey UK
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: MOLEYman on October 10, 2006, 11:18:35 PM
mo1ey uks been on awhile and asnt posted

i have posted but havnt voted - cause i dont know who to vote for  :P

its my first game too  8)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: hippo on October 10, 2006, 11:20:36 PM
Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist
Billyman: Sir Hammer, Amadjin
Happy Axeman: Sir Hammer, Amadjin
Manic: Sir Hammer, Amadjin
ChurchofHalo: Sir Hammer, Amadjin
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer, Stevenryals
Mo1ey UK: Sir Hammer, Amadjin
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 12:00:02 AM
OK.... 


Heres how it's going to go, and now we are going to start playing the game instead of trying to 'modify' the rules


 

Yorkshire can kill who he wants, he's king.  if he goes against what the town says, and it turns out to be an innocent, obviously we lynch him next..  if he goes against us, we will kill him, and he knows that, but you cant just add rules or guidelines..  just go with the game as Hippo has set up... and enjoy it..


now lets get going..!!!!!

unvote hammer

vote bluestarsneyes because she's my girlfriend and i can do that kinda shit!  :)  and because she is scared to post, because she doesnt know what the hell is going on..  so..   GET YOUR ASS ON HERE AND POST FOO!!!!

-steven
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: hippo on October 11, 2006, 12:04:49 AM
BILLYMAN currently cannot post as there's something wrong with his account. This should be sorted whenever axeman appears, or just randomly like amadjin's account did.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 11, 2006, 12:19:46 AM
yes...I've taken all day to try to read these posts....and honestly I can't figure out what most of you are saying...

I'm still not sure what is going on...but the way I see it...don't give me any more rules...confusing enough
The new rules don't make sense to me that someone that isn't King came up with in the first place?

Who is Hammer....why is he talking so much?
Get rid of him because he posts so much he gets me behind and makes me confused and is going to get
me killed cause I'm reading all of the time instead of figuring out what the heck is going on anyway

Hammer Die...

was that good enough...boyfriend that tries to kill me???
That's some good brownie points...I'll remember that one for use later I'm sure
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 11, 2006, 12:22:39 AM
see ya swines,it isnt just me...lol,and no wonder divorce rates are higher than ever....
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 11, 2006, 01:06:29 AM
hahaha...well you have to be married to get a divorce...so he's safe...

I'm still reading... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 11, 2006, 01:20:52 AM
there isnt much important info to keep up on in this one so far,hammers made some suggestions,some have agreed some have disagreed,i thought i saw an iffy post but i cant find it now...and thats about it...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 11, 2006, 01:32:53 AM
Quote
Yorkshire can kill who he wants, he's king.  if he goes against what the town says, and it turns out to be an innocent, obviously we lynch him next..  if he goes against us, we will kill him, and he knows that, but you cant just add rules or guidelines..  just go with the game as Hippo has set up... and enjoy it..

Here here, host mafia 9 and add your own rules then if you want to change them, but lets go with what we have and leave it at that.

Though people posting is what makes the game enjoyable so if some aren't posting then they would move to the top of my vote list.


 O0
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 11, 2006, 01:37:43 AM
sorry...it is taking me so many posts...lots of reading....feel like I'm back in school!

The suggestions from Hammer....I don't agree with...like others have said
why have a King if he can't make random choices just because...isn't the the reason
he's king...because he can be an idiot or a genius...either way he has the ultimate say....

So my vote...leave the rules the same...the folks can make suggestions...but King can
do whatever he wants...cause....he's the King.

Hammer...why is he voting for me? I'm confused...I didn't say a word....

My vote is for HAMMER reason being....I never trust a man that spends that
much time explaining to me why he is right.....and then back track and tell me he
is just trying to help me out....right

but what do I know...I'm just a girl
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 11, 2006, 03:26:45 AM
god damnit....dont vote for someone for thinkin of a good way to keep our king in check...i know votes dont exactly count,but no-one likes a dictator,and hammer is tryin to make it so that even though we have a king who can do whatever he likes it would be nice for us to have our say and it actually mean something you know,democracy and all that?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 11, 2006, 04:56:11 AM
but the fact that we have a king means that even if we all voted for Hammer then the king could vote for anyone else cos he's the king and there's nothing we can do about it. It may cause repercussions later on when there is a different king and you might get some payback from disgruntled Townies.

How about voting for Steven so his girlfriend gets to survive longer than him on her first attempt at Mafia !!


 O0
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 11, 2006, 07:02:01 AM
that would be funny cos he always seems to be innit til the end that fella...lol
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 11, 2006, 09:51:01 AM
Amadjin you were online til 3 this morning and now your up at 7?! Are you a milkman? Are you a bum? Or do you just have no life?


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6479353885673483134&q=south+park+warcraft+episode (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6479353885673483134&q=south+park+warcraft+episode)

Is this what you have been doing?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 11, 2006, 11:30:10 AM
I come back from my job which some of us actually have and when I get home the first thing I don't want to do is go the computer and explain myself to anyone for actually having a life.

As for Hammers suggestions ultimately they are just useless because the king can just execute whoever he wants, so we can have all these guidelines but that's all they are.

Don't have anything useful to say because nothing has happened really and I am not going to join in with the random paranoia and analysing every word of every post like some people because all that does is force everyone to say nothing.

P.S. That episode of South Park is brilliant.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 11, 2006, 11:47:05 AM
Amadjin you were online til 3 this morning and now your up at 7?! Are you a milkman? Are you a bum? Or do you just have no life?


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6479353885673483134&q=south+park+warcraft+episode (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6479353885673483134&q=south+park+warcraft+episode)

Is this what you have been doing?

(That episode is indeed brilliant, when Tweak sets on fire :D :D :D)

If people keep saying the rules are useless then obviously they can't get there head round the fact that the King won't execute someone if he knows that he will be killed for incompetence the next day. If someone else was putting forward any ideas what do then fine, but I have not seen anything like that so far. I know its shit on Day one, but at least Im trying to make something for people to think about instead of posting that nothing has happened and I have nothing to say.

Vote:Tommycatons, Stevenryals
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 11, 2006, 12:22:21 PM
i thought when Butters turned up with the same charcater as Cartman was funny.

I don't think anyone's saying the rules are useless, just the ones you wanted to add  ;)


vote hammer
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 01:34:10 PM
Hammer, listen...  and listen closely...

Youre rules, arent rules.  You cant add rules.  You cant add to someone elses game..

Having said that...

Your rules and guidelines are ALREADY IN PLACE...  If we vote majority for someone, the king will HAVE to go with that, because if he doesnt, and it turns out to be a townie, he will reap what has been sowed.

Your guidelines are a great idea, but it's not what this game is, and when it all comes down to it...  that is whats fun about this, its different... 


yorkshire, when you feel like there is enough evidence to justify executing someone, do it..  right now, people are throwing out 5 and 6 votes at a time... it's going to get retarded if nobody is unvoting..  so keep you eye on actual evidence and suspicious activity...

now.. on with the game...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 11, 2006, 01:52:46 PM
That episode of South Park is truly brilliant! The bit where Cartman shits into the bowl his mum is holding is hilarious :laugh:

Anyway, the game will never get anywhere if we just keep arguing about whether to follow the guidelines or not. At the end of the day the king makes the final decision and we have to advise him who to kill.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 02:07:34 PM
ALRIGHT... On with the game, no more talk of rules and whatnot... 


unvote bluestarsneyes

:)


Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 03:57:51 PM
COME ON PEOPLE... I've seen 5 or 6 of you reading this thread and nobody posting anything.. .

lets get it going..  day 1 is always the slowest, and the longer you sit around , the longer this is going to take..


I think amadjin looks suspicious because at first he was damning hammers rule suggestions, and recently he was touting them saying the game would be better...  it's the only discrepancy thus far... so...   thats suspicious to me..

-steven
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: hippo on October 11, 2006, 04:01:05 PM
Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer (1)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist, bluestarsneyes (2)
Billyman: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
Happy Axeman: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
Manic: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
ChurchofHalo: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Mo1ey UK: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer (1)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: dotLeo on October 11, 2006, 04:22:32 PM
I feel like I want to vote hippo after he outed me last game; such a shame I can't :P
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 11, 2006, 04:32:40 PM
Thats not very productive now is it?



hmmmm, chocolate chip cookies
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 11, 2006, 04:34:13 PM
Hear yee hear yee. It is I sir fozza gump of stoke. Twas a long night shift one must say and one has just awoken to the sound of pattering rain at thy window. One is now perusing deal or no deal with sir noel edmonds of channel 4. One believes that an opinion must be stated to indulge in this game and that is what one will now do.

Hammer, one believes that thy rules are good, however, one must take into consideration that random can sometimes be beneficial to the caused of our poor town.  The king is power and power is the king. T'would be good for him to place a random execution upon this boring town without being restricted. If all goes wrong, we then have somebody to blame.

Hence forth, although thy rules are good, stop following them. :D

"Thy kingdom come, thy will be done"

Vote: Tommy Catons Hair Stylist - I dont like hair stylist's :D:D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 04:38:30 PM
VOTE DOTLEO

Thats wasteful... and i believe it was a  weak attempt at saying "i'm posting, so i'm not evil... look how nice and innocent i am"

and ... fozza.. you've got to stop that....
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 11, 2006, 05:16:35 PM
Axeman has not been online for a week so I don't think he is tactically lurking, so Unvote:Axeman, Unvote:Billyman.

I think we should have a seperate vote on you wants to use the guidelines I have set forward so here goes........

Who thinks we should try and abide by these guidelines (or your own versions or adjustments) for Kings?

Suggestion One-The King may only execute players if the town has at least given that player 33% of the votes (we can keep a running list for "executable players" or something)
Suggestion Two-The King must execute a player if the town gives them 66% of the votes (or an otherwise overwhelming majority, we may change the percentage at the town's discretion)
Suggestion Three-The King may execute a player if there is direct (investigative, most likely) evidence against that person, even if that person has not reached 33% of the votes

Vote:For the Rules


I note that most of your main concerns are that I am trying to "change" the rules. That is bollocks, but this systems is meant to encourage us to set up a way of doing things. The main thing is getting a Town win and If we know what is consistently happening each day then the Town has a much better chance of winning. If some of you had your way then most of us shouldn't bother posting because it will mean nothing unless someone blurts out "I am an assassin, I mean umm. oh shit." Stop moaning about it and lets see who is in favour of trying this system out and who is in favour of blindly following one person.

First to 10 votes wins
Votes For
Sir Hammer

Votes Against

___________

Interesting spot on Amadjin, steven but he does tend to flip-flop alot.

Yorkshire, tell us what you think on whats happened so far and who other than me is on your list of execution?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 11, 2006, 05:33:26 PM
haven't a clue anything to add...except I'm ready for some death.....well of course...unless that is my own death...
see if I keep talking I'll kill myself by my own comments....

so what do you do now....call someone a name...til they get mad...and say something stupid...and then game on???

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 05:35:05 PM
VOTE AGAINSTHAMMERSRULES Because that will make the role of king useless, and this will pretty much make this game just like the hammer mafias...


GET THE F*CK OVER IT HAMMER.... IT'S NOT YOUR GAME.. NO EFFIN' PLAY AND STOP MOANING ABOUT THE RULES..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 11, 2006, 05:38:18 PM
Dang....agreeing with Steven...but I have said...and many others at this point have said...no thanks to your additional guidelines...why not just start the game hammer...what is the obsession with stating your case to an audience that isn't interested in hearing it.....who...come on someone...who is the one person that believes...once and for all that these guidelines should be added???

What??? No one???



VOTE AGAINSTHAMMERSRULES


Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 05:41:33 PM
{Sir Hammer says via Telepathic Gateway}

OK, I wont say another damn word about my new 'guidelines' and we will get on with the game now. 

{End, Telepathic Transmission}
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 11, 2006, 05:44:03 PM
"Hammer, one believes that thy rules are good, however, one must take into consideration that random can sometimes be beneficial to the caused of our poor town.  The king is power and power is the king. T'would be good for him to place a random execution upon this boring town without being restricted. If all goes wrong, we then have somebody to blame."

funny you should say that fozza cause i just tried hammers random selection & guess what it came up with you

so

VOTE FOZZA
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 05:51:42 PM
are you guys freaking kidding me....   ???  seriously voting for someone due to "random.org"... 

Fozza says:
Quote
random can sometimes be beneficial to the caused of our poor town
  this sounds like crap to me..  but in fact, it is true.  Our record of lynching mafia on day one is far from impecible.  In fact, its down right poor.  I think we have a 3 of 8 record.  Thats 37.5%


out of 18 people here, I figure there are somewhere about these stats:

8 innocents
5 Mafia
2 'rogue innocents'
1 cult leader
1 kingmaker


that 8 out of 18, which translates roughly to 44%.

Seeing that our method of trying to "route" out evil, is a 37.5% success; and the odds at this point of randomly guessing an execution gives us a 44% chance... I say what the hell...  yorkshire, your decision...

-steven
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 11, 2006, 06:10:43 PM
But that all suposses that your maths is right.

What if there is only 4 or three mafia type players then it decreases.

The first lynch is always random unless someone does something increadibly stupid.

Hammers regulations sound great in practice except the last one.

Suggestion Three-The King may execute a player if there is direct (investigative, most likely) evidence against that person, even if that person has not reached 33% of the votes

IF all thats needed is an investigation then everyone will claim to have investigated people claiming that they are either innocent or guilty depending on thier motivations.

Might need to rethink that one. ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 07:35:13 PM
yea, I agree...  But i think that hippo has the numbers slightly skewed towards the townfolk...  hippo is an evil evil man, so he probably has 8 nasties out there... 

your right though... first lynch is always random.. and our record inst that great..

however, my record is actuall 3 of 5, which is much better, because i missed the first 3 games. 

:)

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 11, 2006, 08:40:38 PM
If you look at the front page you can see that Hippo has posted all the roles in this game. There are no Cult Leaders, "Rogue Townies" or other strange roles.

There is one team of Assasins with probably with about 4 or 5 members, anything else would be a bit unbalanced. The only roles the Town might have are Cops, Docs, Vigs, Masons, Kingmakers and Heros.

Im not saying we lynch someone with complete randomness (obviously with the King there we can't), but its normally a good place to start your votes on.



Hammers regulations sound great in practice except the last one.

Suggestion Three-The King may execute a player if there is direct (investigative, most likely) evidence against that person, even if that person has not reached 33% of the votes

IF all thats needed is an investigation then everyone will claim to have investigated people claiming that they are either innocent or guilty depending on thier motivations.

Might need to rethink that one. ;)

Could do with a little tweaking so how about this?


Suggestion Three
-The King may execute a player if there is direct (investigative, most likely) evidence against that person, even if that person has not reached 33% of the votes as long as the majority of the players trust in that person not bullshitting.

Even if someones motives are bad and they fake a Cop Investigation to get someone lynched, then we can just lynch or vig them as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 11, 2006, 08:46:52 PM
i dont think tommy catons hairstylist or bluestarsneyes r evil cos i dont think that hippo would give them evil roles on there first game apart from that there isnt nothin suspicous really apart from hammer who is desperate to change th rules y r u want to change the rules so badly
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 08:54:12 PM
DO NOT

edit your post!!!!  (yorkshire)

king or not.. that's a no-no
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 11, 2006, 08:59:15 PM
No edit? Even if you misspell....crap that stinks....

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 11, 2006, 09:01:25 PM
i dont think tommy catons hairstylist or bluestarsneyes r evil cos i dont think that hippo would give them evil roles on there first game apart from that there isnt nothin suspicous really apart from hammer who is desperate to change th rules y r u want to change the rules so badly

Im sure Hippo has done the roles randomly so we can't rule them out like that, and I am not "desperate to change the rules" like I have already said. I am getting bored of posting this again and again. I merely want to make sure the whole town is involved in the decision. If it was not for me making suggestions then what else would have happened in this game? People would have posted about how there is nothing to say abit more or how confused they are?

Lets just give the system ago, and then we can revise it whenever we need to.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker
Post by: hippo on October 11, 2006, 09:05:53 PM
STOP!

> Don't edit/delete previously submitted posts. If you accidentally double post or make a tragic formatting error, just let me know and I'll fix the problem. I'm pretty good at catching stuff like that anyway.

Post editing is against the rules of the game, i'll give this one as a warning, but the next player doing it will be modkilled. I know we've got some new players, so this should make everyone aware of the rules. Everything said in the game should remain on record.

carry on..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 11, 2006, 09:08:48 PM
laser blues been on alot and not posted apart from his random vote which is no help
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 09:23:14 PM
I've seen him browsing on here quite a few times today as well...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 11, 2006, 09:54:54 PM
Probably just taking stuff in. I would rather people took their time and posted only when they had something to say or when they were answering someone else. Posting for the sake of it is a waste of time, and we are better of concentrating on others.
There are still a few people who haven't even been on yet for some reason or other so we can't do much until they show up.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 11, 2006, 09:56:09 PM
Vote:Billyman

seems he has been online recently and is still in hiding......
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 11, 2006, 09:58:44 PM
poor billy...  i hope he doesnt sing this time.. or ask hippo for a bj.....
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: hippo on October 11, 2006, 10:00:29 PM
BILLYMAN currently cannot post as there's something wrong with his account. This should be sorted whenever axeman appears, or just randomly like amadjin's account did.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 11, 2006, 10:01:17 PM
Yeh got back from work early so i logged on to see if i'd been terminated already.... ha
no seriously i havent been on all this time just left it on & reduced the screen to check back every so often.

" laser blues been on alot and not posted apart from his random vote which is no help"

i'm new to this so i'ts not suprising really........ i dont have a clue who to vote for(not that our votes count at the mo) just waiting for some inspiration ;D

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: dotLeo on October 12, 2006, 01:53:21 AM
can't wait for Billyman to get on to hook us up with his usual list of percentages and predictions :D

vote laserblue, stevenryals for having the same avatar and making things confusing.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 02:33:12 AM
See... this is the only reason that i think Hammers ideas are good...

votes mean nothing, and people are throwing them out like they are used bathwater... 

Here is how the game goes... You try to convince the king who to kill based on REAL REASONS, and vote for who you REALLY think needs to go, also FOR REAL REASONS.  My avatar has nothing to do with this game, dont be childish and try to be funny.  To me that is a way of someone trying to sound comfortable, when they probably have something to hide.

FOS DOTLEO
FOS AMADJIN


They both post short quipps that make them sound, to me, very suspicious.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 12, 2006, 02:45:39 AM
well most have disagreed with Hammers rules except Fozza so maybe those two are working in conjuntion and trying to gain some control over the king by getting Hammers extra rules put in place.

So

Vote 1 Hammer

Vote 2 Fossa


 O0
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: hippo on October 12, 2006, 11:12:53 AM
Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer (1)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist, bluestarsneyes (2)
Billyman: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
Happy Axeman: Amadjin (1)
Manic: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
ChurchofHalo: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Mo1ey UK: Sir Hammer, Amadjin (2)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, Fozza (2)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo (2)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: laserblue, tommy catons hairstylist (2)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)

I won't be keeping track of FOS (finger of suspicion), as with this format, you are able to vote for all of your suspects.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: dotLeo on October 12, 2006, 12:06:27 PM
See... this is the only reason that i think Hammers ideas are good...

votes mean nothing, and people are throwing them out like they are used bathwater... 

Here is how the game goes... You try to convince the king who to kill based on REAL REASONS, and vote for who you REALLY think needs to go, also FOR REAL REASONS.  My avatar has nothing to do with this game, dont be childish and try to be funny.  To me that is a way of someone trying to sound comfortable, when they probably have something to hide.

FOS DOTLEO
FOS AMADJIN


They both post short quipps that make them sound, to me, very suspicious.

Of course, real reasons are a plenty today.  Apologies for missing them.

This igame is meant to be fun too, and not all serious.. chill out

When I have real suspicions and evidence to go on, you can be sure I will back up my votes with something more than a joke.  Until then, voting people can get them talking, as I think you have no doubt mentioned.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 12, 2006, 12:39:05 PM
right guys, mine and axemans internet got cut-off last friday, thats why we have not been on ;) will have to read up before casting my vote(s) ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 12, 2006, 01:12:49 PM
well most have disagreed with Hammers rules except Fozza so maybe those two are working in conjuntion and trying to gain some control over the king by getting Hammers extra rules put in place.
So

Vote 1 Hammer

Vote 2 Fossa

1. You don't need to vote me every post. It stays on me until you choose to unvote.

2. Fozza, Amadjin, Churchofhalo, Currieman, Dotleo at least have all accepted that the "Guidelines" are a good way to go forward.
So far the only real objection has come from you, Quigmaster, Steven (who in his last post said that they are good?) and Bluestars. I'm glad to see you trying to work stuff out and connect people, but you are well wrong on this case.

Unvote:Axeman, Billyman, Manic, Churchofhalo, Moleyuk


Stop focusing on me and focus on finding the assassins.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 01:30:01 PM
I've always thought they were good hammer, but i think it's a bad idea to circumvent the system of having a king and add rules to make us more powerful.  We are peasants and have no control over a king, and thats how this game is set up.  In real life, you try to impose rules on your king, you get murdered publicly as an example....  when i say real life, i mean, you know.. lik... 1000 years ago real life...  :)


dotleo, my point is, when people get on here and vote for two people because of thier avatar, it's suspicious because its one of those posts that say "i dont want to say anything serious, because someone may read into it an find my assassin nature, so i'll just post a quick little joke,  and everyone will laugh, see my name and think, 'hey dotleo is contributing'..."  but in reality, your not..
it's suspicious to me

vote dotleo


I was looking at the vote count a few posts back...
and funny enought, SIR HAMMER have voted for everyone but axeman, dotleo, fozza and laserblue.  This may be a core of our assassins here.  however, a couple of them may ben in a mason type role, and hammer may have simply overlooked dotleo's suspicion..

vote hammer

also not, when it was said that laserblue had been on all day, hammer was right in to defend him. 
Probably just taking stuff in. I would rather people took their time and posted only when they had something to say or when they were answering someone else.

I believe these two are linked in some way, they probably know each others orientation, evil or good... 
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 12, 2006, 01:47:33 PM
I've always thought they were good hammer, but i think it's a bad idea to circumvent the system of having a king and add rules to make us more powerful.  We are peasants and have no control over a king, and thats how this game is set up.  In real life, you try to impose rules on your king, you get murdered publicly as an example....  when i say real life, i mean, you know.. lik... 1000 years ago real life...  :)

I was looking at the vote count a few posts back...
and funny enought, SIR HAMMER have voted for everyone but axeman, dotleo, fozza and laserblue.  This may be a core of our assassins here.  however, a couple of them may ben in a mason type role, and hammer may have simply overlooked dotleo's suspicion..

vote hammer

also not, when it was said that laserblue had been on all day, hammer was right in to defend him. 
I believe these two are linked in some way, they probably know each others orientation, evil or good... 

This isn't 1000 years ago or current times in the Middle East. This is a game with a system that we are meant to exploit in an attempt to win the game. Anyway in real life, the House of Commons impose rules on our Queen all the time and even though she has no say in them she still has to sign the documents. If she rebelled and didn't sign a Government Bill then our Monarchy would be abolished.

As for your findings on my Voting, I did vote Axeman and Dotleo earlier on in the game and I have unvoted them. I unvoted Axeman because I found out that he wasn't lurking just that he couldn't get online and I unvoted Dotleo because my vote on him at the start was just a joke for disrespecting the King.
You insult me by saying I would give away my masons partners or assassin partners in such a stupid way by voting everyone else. The reason I have not voted Laserblue and Fozza is because they have been reasonably active and as far as I can remember have been supportive of the Guidelines.
The people I have voted for are the people who are rebelling against it and just want all the pressure on one person they can more easily manipulate or those who just want me executed for posting what I think would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 02:09:39 PM
SO, you are saying that everyone's guild rides on thier adoption of your guidelines?  Thats not quite fair now is it? 

You state you opinion, we state ours.  You want them, we think the rules are fine as they are; and because we disagree with you that makes us guilty in your opinion.  Sounds like a cheap way to point the finger at people.  Lets just play the game as it is, as hippo set it up and get on with it.  I'm quite tired of discussing rules.  Do what you want, I dont even care! But for GOD sakes lets get on with it!!!


Any why were you so quick to defend laserblue?  There are plenty of other people in here that haven't posted that you didnt defend?  You didn't stand up when Mo1ey UK or Billyman were fingered as lunkers..  even though you did post during those times.. why chose Laserblue to defend?  Whats special about him that made you jump to his defense?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 12, 2006, 02:13:27 PM
this first day is taking forever, does it normally take this long ? It's getting like Groundhog day !!

My main objection Hammer is it's Hippo's game and his rules, if you didn't like them then you could have not played, trying to add extra 'guildlines'. As you've posted most and the most reply worthy posts then you should have expected to get more spotlight on you and votes.

Being my first attempt i'm still feeling my way on what to do, but i'm giving it a go and posting my thoughts, as if your vote counted i'd be dead in the morning, whenever morning actually arrives. So i might as well post incase i don't last long.

Well i'm off to bed, so i'll read the developments in the morning.


 O0
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 12, 2006, 02:55:05 PM
For F**ks sake, this is like talking to Zombies.
Your all sticking together in your little Man City group and constantly going after me at every little thing. Everytime I look in the thread there is a post attacking me for some obscure thing like saying that because its someones first game you can give them some slack for not posting everytime they are on like like the Laserblue thing. I have no ties with anyone in this game other than....read on

I am going to endanger myself and claim because I am worried Yorkshire is just going to execute me while others lurk away. I am a Mason with Mo1ey and we are both Pro-Town. I breadcrumbed this earlier in this post

He was the most obscure 1 enormous yak

I am doing this for one main reason.
Hopefully the Mafia will try to kill me or Mo1ey tonight and although the Doctor might save one of us it looks like one of us will die, however as long as the Kingmaker chooses both of us then for next days King then at least you know for certain you have a pro-town King. Remember that at the moment only Yorkshire and the Assassins know what team our King is on, which concerns me. I still think strongly that on these early days we should have as weak a king as possible and then later on when we have more information he should get his real power back.

Final thoughts as I won't post again in this Day unless directly questioned
The Kingmaker is probably in that little Man City clan, simply because who else would have picked Yorkshire other than someone just recognising him from the Man City boards.
The King should have a little list of people he thinks are "executable" and he should post it every time he updates it to give people time to explain themselves and so on.


I will never mention the "guidelines" again if the majority goes against it so lets make this a Democracy inside of a Totalitarian

Votes For
Sir Hammer

Votes Against
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 12, 2006, 03:10:13 PM
hi everyone
just home from work so i'll spend a little time catching up on reading the posts before i make any reply ;D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 03:22:43 PM
interesting turn of events from hammer, as someone who's modded many of these games, he should know how bad of an idea it was of him to come out on day one.  also, i wonder if he had mo1ey UK's  permission to do that.

Coming out and showing your role is great, especially when the rules are all very new, and the game format is way different that usual, because mafia could come out and say something like that, and be considered innocent for many days.  I do not take your role-reveal as a free pass to innocence.  however, if you are a mason, that was probably a bad idea...  just my opinion.. maybe it will work for you..

unvote hammer
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 12, 2006, 03:31:23 PM
"I was looking at the vote count a few posts back...
and funny enought, SIR HAMMER have voted for everyone but axeman, dotleo, fozza and laserblue.  This may be a core of our assassins here.  however, a couple of them may ben in a mason type role, and hammer may have simply overlooked dotleo's suspicion.."

if this is true then why did i vote for fozza

also i think if you go back & count again i think you will find there are more people that hammer has not voted for than you have named on your list. ;D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: hippo on October 12, 2006, 03:36:37 PM
Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer (1)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist, bluestarsneyes(2)
Billyman: Amadjin (1)
Happy Axeman: Amadjin (1)
Manic: Amadjin (1)
ChurchofHalo: Amadjin (1)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Mo1ey UK: Amadjin (1)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, Fozza (2)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo (2)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: laserblue, tommy catons hairstylist (2)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)

It'd be appreciated if people didn't repeat a vote that they've already made. Unless they've unvoted since, and wish to vote for that person again.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 03:52:08 PM
Wonder where Churchy and Quigg are?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: MOLEYman on October 12, 2006, 03:52:35 PM
im gonna have to go with Tommy Catons Hairstylist cause i dont know who to vote for

VOTE

Tommy Catons Hairstylist
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 04:03:50 PM
someone else who's throwing out votes like a madman is amadjin.  currently 5 votes on the board from him..



think about your votes people... listen, if you vote for 10 people and your innocent, you are leaving it up to the assassins to come up with who gets the majority, because you've left them excuses on EVERYONE.....  so.. treat votes a little more careful..

vote amadjin        he's a vetaran at this game, and making stupid little mistakes.  no excuses
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 12, 2006, 04:09:31 PM
i voted those 5 cos they hadnt really posted and i havent really been on since unvote all i had voted
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 04:16:06 PM
i figured as much...

unvote amadjin

so far this is the most voting/unvoting game ive been in..  :)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 12, 2006, 04:24:15 PM
Well after reading since my last post....I'm not sure what to think....I mean Hammer....has flipped his Hammer....first he goes into the guidelines again...then ONCE AGAIN...wants a post on these additional rules....then somehow he changes and reveals his character...but how do I know he is telling the truth...I just completely don't understand?? Why would you do that??
To me...it is a game...the only reason you would do that is to benefit yourself in someway....or to protect someone that you feel will save you....either way...I don't know enough it just looks very suspicious to me...and my vote does not change.

I will give you credit for one thing hammer....you are giving more information that most anyone else on this board...and if you do get killed off...at least you tied your own rope.....

I am new to this too...and I feel like I post as much as some of you players that have been on here a long time. I figure you MUST be waiting for the new person like me to do your thinking for you...and stick my neck out by saying something to do your work for you and make the killing easy.

That stinks.....get your selves involved in the game....I'm still reading and at this point...everyone looks suspicious to me.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 12, 2006, 04:29:21 PM
Well I was going to vote for Amadjin until he just said that because he was voting for so many people.

I think Hammers rule of 33% have to vote for the person is good and I think we should go ahead and use it so the king still has a big say but we get a say as well.

I am voting for Steve van halen because he hasn't been on hardly which is suspious i think so.

vote steve van halen
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 12, 2006, 04:32:00 PM
It is a bit weird that Hammer has roleclaimed so early but if he really is a mason along with Moley then we can obviously strike them from the list of executables.

If they are guilty though then they are playing a good game by announcing it at this point because we don't know if they're telling the truth or not
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 04:46:22 PM
either way it will hurt them later on in the game..

bluestarsneyes is playing the new card..  hehehe...

i bet hippo gave all the evil roles to all the new players because he knew we wouldnt expect him to do that...  hehehehe


vote all new players..  <--- not bold fools!!


Vote Steve Van Halen         bring him out....



Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Quig on October 12, 2006, 05:01:25 PM
Wow. 4 new pages since I last looked. Thats a lot of reading. I think Hammer needs to stop enforcing his shitty rules and focus on getting the evils. Also, I aint seen the king in a while. I'm gonna keep my vote on Hammer.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 12, 2006, 05:12:44 PM
I wasnt online yesterday because I had Uni then I was out on the piss before the game. How the hell did Rep Ire lose 5-2 to those shysters?!

4 pages since I was last on here, crazy. Let me read some of those first before you lynch me
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 12, 2006, 05:17:10 PM
were still debating the rules cant we just leave it and there not goin to change i dont really no whos evil yet the posts are spread out with nearly everyone on 1 or 2 votes

tommy catons hairstylist looks suspicous cos his posts r just weird and not really helpfull but its his first game and i didnt really post alot

steven could be right and hippos gave all the new people evil roles
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 06:24:27 PM
That would be a twist huh?


Unvote SVH
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 12, 2006, 06:42:43 PM
"vote laserblue, stevenryals for having the same avatar and making things confusing."

hey dotleo

I noticed yorkshire has the same as well so

are you going to vote for him as well

or

ru
chicken ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 12, 2006, 07:18:20 PM
Wow. 4 new pages since I last looked. Thats a lot of reading. I think Hammer needs to stop enforcing his shitty rules and focus on getting the evils. Also, I aint seen the king in a while. I'm gonna keep my vote on Hammer.

How does that post help find the "evils"?

You have contributed nothing to the game posting about 2/3 times with about 2/3 sentences vaguely saying some tripe about rules and accusing others of not being seen. You blatantly look like an Assassin desperately trying to shit-stir by bringing Yorkshire into this who has posted alot more than some people including yourself.

I would have you at the top of my Royal List of Executables if I was King for your shoddy start.

I am trying to find the "evils". I have kept notice of those who are opposing anything that will give some power to the Town and notice those who are just lurking in the background.


Instead of telling me to "shut up", "die hammer", "stop enforcing his shitty rules" and more useless comments can we have an intelligent debate on why people ever do or don't want to have a set of Guidelines with which we can judge the King on the next day.

The thing im guessing is the thing deterring most people about the Guidelines (Im guessing because in my eyes no one has given me an intelligent reason why we shouldn't use them), is that somehow we are upsetting Hippo by changing his game (which is not true and I would imagine probably the opposite since Im sure its designed for us to try and catch assassins the best way we can) and that it would make the position of the King pointless which is why I am offering a revised version of the Guidelines (which I would follow by if I was made King).

___________________ ___________________ ___________________ _
Quote from: Guidelines
1.) The King has to wait until at least one person reachs a majority before any executions are ordered. This will make sure that enough talking has gone on and information has been gained. When someone does get a majority of the votes then they are put on the
Royal List of Execution.
Quote from: Guidelines
2.) If someone else then gets enough votes to give them a majority as well, then they are also put on the Royal List of Execution. This should mean that the king has a couple of Town-Approved candidates for a lynching and give him the choice.
Quote from: Guidelines
3.) Players who have direct (most likely investigative) evidence against them may be placed automatically on the Royal List of Execution., regardless of whether or not they have received over a majority of votes.
Quote from: Guidelines
4.) Players may be removed from the Royal List of Execution. (by the King) if they have direct (most likely investigative or Masonry) evidence to absolve them, or perhaps even a "Hero" claim and the King believes it (or the King believes said person to be the Hero even without a claim).
Quote from: Guidelines
5.) If the King feels a particular person is an assassin (but has no investigative evidence against them [or does have investigative evidence but does not wish to reveal such information], and that person is, for whatever reason, not on the Royal List of Execution.) the King may formally announce to the town that s/he is moving that person to The Royal List of Execution., and allow the town to have further discussion (as such a move should obviously create). This allows for the King to have greater autonomy, but makes certain that King will not just randomly execute people without at least some open discussion from the town.
Quote from: Guidelines
6.) The King has to announce in advance who he is going to execute, so that person can be given a chance to defend himself and reveal anything he has kept hidden so far.

These will give the King a good list of about 3 or 4 people he can choose from giving him his ultimate power and giving us peasants a decent role in this game.
Another thing is this system will help us learn more about people as they try to stay off the list and we can judge Kings on who they choose and why.

___________________ ________

Back to the game, I am a bit worried by constant attempts to link me with other players from Stevenryals and Tommy. I think they are trying to sway the King towards getting rid of someone who is trying to make sure that the majority of the good guys get a say which would hinder the assassins.

As for my roleclaim, in hindsight it may prove to have been a mistake and I am hoping Mo1ey would back me up soon.
The claim will only pay off if the Kingmaker picks me and Moley as his two targets for Kingship tomorrow as you will then have a definite pro-town King and two less people to execute.




Phew, that was a good 10 minute rant there..... I have offered a way for you to shut me up about these Guidelines. If 9 of you vote against it then I will never mention it again, but some of you probably can't even be bothered to think about what I have wrote let and Vote on something like this. ;) :-X O0 :laugh: >:D :'( :-* :-\ :-X :P ::) 8) :o :( >:( ;D :D ;) :) :cheers: :cursing: :essen: :2nd: :fool: :guitar: :pimp: :chill: :wanker: :party: :read2: :plane:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 07:36:54 PM
Hammer.. are you freaking kidding me?

I want to play the game as hippo set it up..  if you dont stop trying to make up your own damn rules... just count me out.. i'll just quit..  because all we've discussed so far is your fu**ing rules... and I'm over it..


king.. do what the hell you want to do.. you're the damn king..  and if somebody doesnt like it...  screw them...  you're the damn king..  if you screw up, and go against what we say... guess what.. tomorrow.. you wont be king anymore.. and guess what, we are going to kick your ass...  so..

go by hammers guidelines, or whatever.. but all in all... JUST PLAY THE DAMN GAME, AND SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT RULES...


SHIT MAN... this is retarded... Hammer, you've gotta stop...  can you not see that all the shit you are proposing is just a formality of what is ALREADY going to happen... a town oriented king is going to do what the town says...  assisins may not, but we kill then in the night phase or the next day the new king kills them... damn...  is that really so hard for you to grasp.. but dont put rules on it, thats the point of the game...


damn...  i'm so annoyed with you right now
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Ralph_Mafia on October 12, 2006, 07:38:24 PM
lol, logged me in as Ralphie from the earlier game when I post from college so I will save my proper post until I get home :P

Pipe down all of you, or I'll get my Mafia buddies on you  8)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 12, 2006, 07:38:34 PM
Oh My God...Hammer...seri ously....you are making my head hurt...I'm educated...but reading this much is just annoying....hahaha!!!

I feel that many of us put forth an intelligent arguement toward your guidelines...the First Time you brought for the suggestions...but after you continue to state your case...after opposition from just about all of us....you continue to just drive me up the wall.

I mean on with the Game.

At this point....the King has full power right? Unless we give him less power under Hammer's rules...so if at this point...King has full power...then KING COME ON OUT...put up your vote on the guidelines....Vote Yes or No to them....and then end this crap.

And Hammer do not insult my intelligence again.....oppositio n to your point does not make me ignorant....Thank you sir
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 12, 2006, 07:46:28 PM
*unrelated...so Steven and I post at the same time...funny*
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 07:48:03 PM
damn...

vote dip hammer  for annoying the living shit out of me...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 12, 2006, 07:48:52 PM
but we kill then in the night phase or the next day the new king kills them... damn...

Interesting that its the Assassins that do there killings during the night phase, not us the Town team yet you referred to them as we.......Interestin g.


Quit if you really want to or just get on with the game. This is meant to be about arguing and debating, not quitting when something doesn't go your way. If you read my posts you will see that I am not changing Hippos rules. Not once have I said that he should do anything about it, but I have said its up to us to try and catch the Mafia. This gives us information, but ultimately the King can do what he likes because they are the rules of the game, but if enough of us agree to this system then he knows there will be consquences.

I feel that many of us put forth an intelligent arguement toward your guidelines...the First Time you brought for the suggestions...but after you continue to state your case...after opposition from just about all of us....you continue to just drive me up the wall.
And Hammer do not insult my intelligence again.....oppositio n to your point does not make me ignorant....Thank you sir
First of all, thanks for calling me by my proper title.
Point out these intelligent arguments and show me exactly who has opposed me other than Steven, Tommy and yourself?

Meh, its doesnt matter soon as you both have appealed to your Man City cronies to execute me for daring to disobey you despite my almost confirmed innocence and general habit of making sense.

Once I am dead don't let the Man City Mob run this game.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 12, 2006, 07:55:25 PM
Let me just say that anything I say in here is trying to make my team win, im not trying to offend anyone and I would not like anyone to quit other stuff I have said.
This game is meant to be combative and spark conversation. You cant denie I have at least done that.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 12, 2006, 07:57:13 PM
I wouldn't know Man City from my mamma...don't group me with others please!!!!!!!!

Hammer....I oppose your guidelines because...for the THIRD TIME....in my humble opinion....I feel that the role of the king is to listen to the people...but to still vote as he pleases. There isn't a King that in the real essence of kingdom...that didn't think it beneficial to vote as his people wish because it benefits him to have his kingdom happy...however there are times when the king feels that he has to go with his own leadership and to eliminate someone based on his own "gut" rather than to go with the vote of the people.

I understand wanting to give the town more say...but honestly that doesn't fit the point of the game to me. To me that is what makes it challenging is that the town has to put forth their arguements...and serves the same purpose...but in this time...people will have to think more about their opinions as they will have to actually attempt to sway the King...knowing that all along that he might not go with their vote.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 08:05:01 PM
execute me for daring to disobey you despite my almost confirmed innocence and general habit of making sense.

Point out these posts of "you making sense" and show me exactly why you cant get over your self  I'm seriously tired of talking about this.  Why cant you understand that if a king goes against what we say, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES, with out without your little 'guidelines'.

I'll make some suggestions just to pacify you hammer(damn aston villa supporters, they hire martin o'freakin'neil and they all of a sudden make all the rules):

Guideline #1:
Code: [Select]
No Fu**ing body in this game is allowed to change, modify, add, make up, fake, or imitate any new rules,
guidelines, judgements, embarkments, and or easments with regaurd to any and all subject matter contained herein.

Guideline #2:
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ANY MENTION OF AFOREMENTIONED DISALLOWANCES RESULTS IN AN IMEDIATE ASS KICKING BY THE TOWN,
AND THE PUNISHMENT WILL BE,.... NO MORE POSTING FROM THAT PERSON UNTIL THE NEXT DAY (game days).

GUIDELINE #3:
Code: [Select]
ANYONE WHO IS NOT SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND ANY OF THESE THREE GUIDELINES WILL BE BANISHED
FROM THE ENTIRE F*C*ING INTERNET FOR THE REST OF THIER LIFE, OR UNTILL THEY DIE (which ever one comes first)


and yes hammer, i'm very sure the town can kill at night..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 12, 2006, 08:14:31 PM
:good response

What if the King did that though and killed someone who turned out to be a Cop or Doctor against the wishes of most of the Town?
Obviously we could execute the King the next day, but if he was town what would that prove. These guidelines will hopefully make sure that wont happen.


Guideline #1:
Code: [Select]
No Fu**ing body in this game is allowed to change, modify, add, make up, fake, or imitate any new rules,
guidelines, judgements, embarkments, and or easments with regaurd to any and all subject matter contained herein.

and yes hammer, i'm very sure the town can kill at night..

How can I trust your Guidelines when you have broken them immediatly yourself?

and so your claiming your a Vigilante now?



lol, logged me in as Ralphie from the earlier game when I post from college so I will save my proper post until I get home :P
Pipe down all of you, or I'll get my Mafia buddies on you  8)

lolz at Ralph
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 08:20:49 PM
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How can I trust your Guidelines when you have broken them immediatly yourself?

those guidelines are effective starting.....   

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.. right now
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 12, 2006, 08:23:36 PM
So what if he kills an innocent...it wouldn't be the first time a King did something stupid...(says the American)

What if one of these...what if one of the town folks attempts to get him to kill an innocent and the King wishes
to kill someone else...and they turn out to be...whatever the bad people are...can't remember..but see my point...
this can go either way...

I mean I get the point...on the guidelines...I just disagree....period. ..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 12, 2006, 08:24:06 PM
hammer is really annoyin me u r now at top of execution list and shut the  :censored: up with this man city group i said earlier i found tommy catons hairstylist suspicous hes a city fan your gettin on to other people for not posting alot 90% of your posts have been about changing the rules so just shut up and stick with the rules we have its hippos rules and he aint changing them
u r really close to gettin executed







___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ __________________

Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer (1)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist, bluestarsneyes, stevenryals (3)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, Fozza, mo1ey UK (3)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo (2)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: laserblue, tommy catons hairstylist (2)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)
Steve Van Halen: afroboy (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 08:30:33 PM
THE KING SPEAKS, IT IS NOW WRITTEN IN STONE.  SO.. My guidelines are NOW in effect.  we will call them "The Book of The Steven"
and anyone can refer to them whenever they need to..

Thank you king..  damn at least EVERYBODY out there can see what i'm talking about..  :)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 12, 2006, 09:29:38 PM
Quite a lot has happened since I was last on.

My sucking up is a role based joke. My role is of a lowly peasant with no abilities thus I was joking by playing in character. Sorry if that confused and offended people. Obviously that makes me mafia.
Firstly, I'm a bit confused by (Sir) Hammer. Firstly he says that he's just a normal townie/peasant with no powers and then suddenly he's become a mason. Not sure what's going on there :o Is it just me that finds this a little bit odd?

Then there's this big argument between (Sir) Hammer and Steven which results in Steven dishing out 3 guidelines.
The 1st one looks really professional until I noticed the spelling mistake. The 2nd one also looked quite good until I saw the spelling mistake and the ending was shite. How can you stop someone from posting for a day?
The 3rd is the funniest though.
Quote
Code: [Select]
ANYONE WHO IS NOT SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND ANY OF THESE THREE GUIDELINES WILL BE BANISHED
FROM THE ENTIRE F*C*ING INTERNET [b]FOR THE REST OF THIER LIFE, OR UNTILL THEY DIE (which ever one comes first)[/b]
You numpty, they're the same thing :laugh: Oh and you spelt THEIR wrong.

Anyway I digress. I now personally think that the king should just decide who he wants to execute and do it coz this is dragging on like all 1st days so
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 09:44:47 PM
It's ok though currie, because i type about 110 words per minute, and cant be arsed to go back and read through it..  especially since my posts are usually about 1/2 a mile long.  (seeing as 1 kilometre is .62 miles, my posts would be about .804672 km in length, just clearing that up for the UK boys).
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 12, 2006, 09:48:57 PM
OK no worries about your bad typing.

However you 3rd guideline still doesn't make sense and I still think Hammer is suspicious due to his role changing.

Infact I'm going to Vote Sir Hammer because he has changed his roles and it may have just been a mistake as he is infact mafia.

It's all conjecture at the moment but it's all I've got to go on for now
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 12, 2006, 09:55:22 PM
I agree its suspicious, but i believe his original plan was to play the "i'm nobody with no powers" game... but when he came out as a mason.. that threw a wrench into things...  so...

the quesiton is...  is hammer a mason? or is hammer mafia?  its one of the two, but not an ordinary townie for sure.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: billyman on October 12, 2006, 09:56:06 PM
can i post now????
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: billyman on October 12, 2006, 09:57:16 PM
well hoorah fuckin hey :D i can post again :laugh:

will read up on whats been going on in the morning and do a post ;)

havent even read the rules yet :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 12, 2006, 10:22:19 PM
Its like giving a group of toddlers one toy to play with so far.

Quit your bickering!!!  :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 12, 2006, 10:28:08 PM
Ok since the King has spoken I guess its up to him to follow the guidelines so that is that for today. I will stop with the talks.

As for my two different claims, believe me Im just a mason.
I am a mason and only a lowly peasant with no abilites. The main function of the mason is that they know for certain the innocence of another which is not an ability really. In this case I know Moley is an innocent and he knows vice-versa. He will back me up on this as soon as he reads this post. Ask yourselves would a member of the assassins ever out himself like this and reveal a fellow assassin in the way I have? No, because it would be retarded. We are masons and I revealed because like I said earlier the Kingmaker should know pick both of us as his kings tomorrow because then at least one of us will be alive and one of us will be the King.

King, I have outed myself as a mason. That should clear me enough and if you do execute me just for daring to try and do something that might help the town then I hope the next King executes you tomorrow when I am proven innocent for your gross imcompetence.

I suggest you look deeply at the posts of people like Quigmaster, Tommy and the posts of others which are trying to stir things up to draw your target from.

and Steven you didn't answer my question. Are you officially claiming as a Vigilante now or just bullshitting? Guess we will know if your still alive tomorrow because no way would the assasssins pass on killing a Vig with this system.

Welcome to the game at last Billyman, there is alot to catch up on.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 12, 2006, 11:02:00 PM
UNVOTE FOZZA
cause it was just a joke vote really
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 12, 2006, 11:47:29 PM
This is going round and round and once again, no real progression seems to have been made.

Oh i don't recall anywhere voting for Mo1ey, how come he's now my execute list ? Can you remove him from my list please Hippo.

Well I think bluestarsneyes and i as new players are still struggling getting a grasp on how the game plays and develops, hence most of our posts. I still don't understand the significance if any of Hammer saying what role he has is ? Can't he lie anyway ?

Not sure what's going on still, but hopefully i'll live long enough to work out how to play properly !!


 O0


___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ _____________

Nah, he voted for you. The player's names in bold are who has been voted for, and then the names next to them are who voted for them. Here's the updated version anyway now that i'm posting..

Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer (1)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist, bluestarsneyes, stevenryals, currieman (4)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, Fozza, mo1ey UK (3)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo (2)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: tommy catons hairstylist (1)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)
Steve Van Halen: afroboy (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 13, 2006, 02:09:11 AM
you are playing far too much on the new persons card....something i dont like
vote:TCH
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 13, 2006, 02:55:12 AM
Well the only way i can see to be sure about Hammer would be to execute him, hence my vote stays. If it proves to be wrong and he was a mason then Moley should be definately not be a mafia and could be protected in the future.

So i'll unvote Mo1ey

and

Vote Amadjin

a poor reason to vote someone on just because they are new to the game.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: MOLEYman on October 13, 2006, 10:05:02 AM

I am a mason and only a lowly peasant with no abilites. The main function of the mason is that they know for certain the innocence of another which is not an ability really. In this case I know Moley is an innocent and he knows vice-versa. He will back me up on this as soon as he reads this post.

I can confirm this is true

we are indeed masons

and i can show you the secret handshake if you like  8)

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 13, 2006, 12:48:11 PM
I can confirm this is true

we are indeed masons

and i can show you the secret handshake if you like  8)


:hug2:   Cheers Moley


Tommy, amadjin is not voting you because you are new. He is voting you because in every post you seem to say something about your newness. To me it looks like you might be trying to hide something under the "im new" excuse.

This is going round and round and once again, no real progression seems to have been made.

Oh i don't recall anywhere voting for Mo1ey, how come he's now my execute list ? Can you remove him from my list please Hippo.

Well I think bluestarsneyes and i as new players are still struggling getting a grasp on how the game plays and develops, hence most of our posts. I still don't understand the significance if any of Hammer saying what role he has is ? Can't he lie anyway ?

Not sure what's going on still, but hopefully i'll live long enough to work out how to play properly !!


 O0


Well the only way i can see to be sure about Hammer would be to execute him, hence my vote stays. If it proves to be wrong and he was a mason then Moley should be definately not be a mafia and could be protected in the future.
So i'll unvote Mo1ey
and
Vote Amadjin
a poor reason to vote someone on just because they are new to the game.
this first day is taking forever, does it normally take this long ? It's getting like Groundhog day !!
Being my first attempt i'm still feeling my way on what to do, but i'm giving it a go and posting my thoughts, as if your vote counted i'd be dead in the morning, whenever morning actually arrives. So i might as well post incase i don't last long.
Being my first attempt at this, there are enough rules already to get the hang of and Hammer want to add some more !! That's enough for my vote !!

So, stop Hammer time
vote hammer

There are 4 posts straight away where you remind us that your new. I think your trying to excuse yourself from suspicion and you were of the biggest critics to the Guidelines, so thats why I think you or TheQuigmaster or one of the few non-posters should be the days execution.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 01:24:35 PM
Hammer, those are pretty good quotes there.  It does sound like he has something to hide, up until this point, I've given him the 'new card' and let his suspicion pass straight through.  And no, I'm not claiming Vigilante, I'm saying I know that the town can kill at night..  for this game to be balanced with all players having a similar chance to win the game, the town has to kill at night in this format and I'm sure hippo has not overlooked that fact.  I'm not going to claim my role yet that would be dumb.

I have a feeling that hippo has given a few of the newbies good roles just to throw a twist into things, because he knows we would think "no way the head assiasin would be a newbie", but I think quite to the contrary.  I believe Tommy Catons Hairstylist is the head assasin and Bluestarsneyes is a henchman.

Vote Tommy Catons Hairstylist because of this comment...  I think the two are working together.. 

Well I think bluestarsneyes and i as new players are still struggling getting a grasp on how the game plays and develops, hence most of our posts. I still don't understand the significance if any of Hammer saying what role he has is ? Can't he lie anyway ?

I'm like Sherlock Holmes up in here, up in here...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 13, 2006, 02:26:25 PM
lol, it's funny how people think. If you knew me you'd know that in a new situation i drive people crazy asking questions, but this is just the internet so you only have your interpretations of what i've written.

The only way your going to know that your wrong is to kill me, my identity is then reavealed, but the only winners out of that are the mafia. I've put a clue in one of my previous posts as to who/what i am, i didn't think it was impossible to spot.

 O0
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 02:33:13 PM
I got your hint..  not sure if I believe you though..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 13, 2006, 02:41:31 PM
well that's up to you, everyone else and ultimately the king to decide. Currently people don't and there's not much more i can add to make people think otherwise without doing a Hammer and saying exactly what my role is.

Anyway it's nearly midnight and time for bed so i'll see if i'm still playing in the morning


 O0
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 13, 2006, 02:41:57 PM
Alright Mr. Steven....first off...what the heck is a "henchman"....that isn't one of the roles!!!!
Sneaky bugger trying to confuse me! I've been looking in the roles trying to figure out if I missed a role!

Anywho....I am not working with anyone....I'm not telling my role....because frankly it is funny
that my boyfriend gets to guess what I am...and he changes his opinion all of the time...hahaha!!!

I am getting more suspicious personally of all of these folks that are hardly posting....except for the
few that hippo said computer issues...but there are some that have said very little.
One in particular in my mind...but I'll keep a watch for now before I say anything.
Is it that these folks don't think there is anything of note to say....or that they are not posting
but a few tags in an effort to minimize our ability to read anything into their posts.

I'm going to go back and do a little more reading this morning....but I would like to see a few more
players posting and getting involved in the game.
I'm new but I want to play...and without anyone really talking but Steven, Hammer, and myself...it is
no fun

Come on out and play evils...and whatevers....speak up...cat got your tongue!



Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 02:49:13 PM
Henchman is just a way of saying the subordinate evil to the head mafia member.  Henchman is just easier.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 13, 2006, 02:57:03 PM
oh....well not me...I already have a hair stylists :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 13, 2006, 03:02:28 PM
So...been reading back through....my question is where are these folks?

Manic Monkey Man...said something about his internet being off...is he still going to play?
He said he was going to read through and then vote...I don't see where he ever
came back and posted anything???

Church of Halo
Fozza Gump
Afroboy

just a few pots.....and pretty short ones at that....

Just going with my girly thoughts....I'm starting to think with the obvious....it would make sense
that the people posting the most would be more of the roles with no power...and would be
more interested in searching out the evils with the power to kill right?

But I don't want to point fingers at folks that have computer problems...but what if some of
them are lying too? Easy excuse huh?

Either way...I say you guys need to post something because to me you look very suspicious
you've said very few things....and in the case of Manic...he's said nothing really
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 13, 2006, 03:03:25 PM
hahaha...sorry about the typo's...I meant posts...hehehe
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 13, 2006, 03:24:34 PM
yes i did say i was gonna read through it all, yes i have it was 7 pages in all, when i have something to say i will say it, no point in offering needless posts that offer no input to the game ::) usually i am more active than this i admit, but at the moment there is nothing much i want to say :-\ ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 03:30:51 PM
my god, you have guilty written all over you, i just cant prove it... 


Fozza has posted a bit though..


one thing that has my attention, is, when it all comes down to it, the only discussion that was going on the past 2 real life days was about hammers rules..  plenty of people chimed in and said "nothing going on in here except hammers guidelines discussion" but they didnt put thier opinion.. Because in thier case, maybe they were afraid that if they said they opposed they would look guilty.  Even though its a game, they have guilt on thier soul while on this board.

Quote from: Tommy Catons hairstylist Says I'm Flippin Guilty as Warm Apple Pie with Shards of Metal and Glass Inside
well most have disagreed with Hammers rules except Fozza so maybe those two are working in conjuntion and trying to gain some control over the king by getting Hammers extra rules put in place.
This sounds suspicious, a blab post stating that they are guilty because they want control over who gets executed; when the simple fact is, if the town controls who gets executed, it obviously give the town more power, but thats not the game we are playing... 

Quote from: ManicMonkeyMan is A BIG FAT LIAR
right guys, mine and axemans internet got cut-off last friday, thats why we have not been on  will have to read up before casting my vote(s)
this post was @
Quote
Reply #109 on: Yesterday at 12:39:05 PM ?
and now that someone brought this up at 3:02pm, he responds at 3:24...  lurking?
avoiding the spotlight?  I think so.

UNVOTE SIR HAMMER
VOTE MANICMONKEYMAN




Quote from: bluestarsneyes THIS QUOTE IS ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL
I wouldn't know Man City from my mamma
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 13, 2006, 03:45:19 PM
Speaking of that.....Axeman.... is he playing?
Internet seems to be working now?
Anything to add??
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 13, 2006, 03:51:51 PM
my internet has been down for 6 days, I'm working so my time has been limited even more, and i would of posted last night except for the fact that i had to do lots of answering peoples PM's, and had to work out why some people couldnt access my site... that took ages and is why i havent been posting on my OWN forum since my BB was turned back on yesterday.

Ive still got a million and one things to sort out on the site, so ive not had much time to anaylise anything... although all that has been said is people trying to make new rules for Hippos game.  ::)

What i dont understand is why there has been no opposition from Der Hammers and Moley role claim, i did that and you lot wouldnt believe me and constantly hounded me until i thought fuck it, and jumped myself.  ::)

anyway, i'm gonna do my usual...

VOTE AMADJIN, cause i was right about him last time, but no-one would have it  ::) and he is always guilty looking.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 04:00:36 PM
I didnt take his role claim to heart..  but now i know that he's not a normal townie..

just like I said before, he is either a Mason or he is an assassin..

I think he is trying to give us clues to who he is.. .check this out..

hammer tried to change/add some rules to someone elses game..
that's kindof being an ASS

look at the word assassin...


ASS  ASS  IN     

he says he is IN with mo1ey UK...

one ASS two ASS IN it together???

I think they are both assassins trying to be clever...  hmmmm...


___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ____________

Right, there's a few points that you're speculating about that need to be cleared up from my point of view. Firstly, all of the roles are completely random. And secondly, the rules to this game will not change - they are set in stone. BUT, what hammer is suggesting is well within the current rules of the game. It's up to the king ulitmately to decide, but as a town you have the power to impose any consequences you like upon a king who has made a bad decision. Cheers.

Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer (1)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist, bluestarsneyes, currieman (3)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, Fozza, mo1ey UK, amadjin, stevenryals (5)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo (2)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: tommy catons hairstylist (1)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)
Steve Van Halen: afroboy (1)
Amadjin: Tommy catons hairstylist, Happy Axeman (2)
Manic: stevenryals (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 04:10:31 PM
(p.s. hammer, just a joke, i know its all a game, and i dont think you're an ass.. )(just thought the ass-ass-in thing was funny...)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 13, 2006, 04:19:39 PM
wow, go on vote me off mr ryals, i only posted because i read a post that asking where i was, so i answered it. simple as.  votestevenryals i could so easily say because you voted for me, and guess what i am.  :laugh: gut instincts say your evil, instincts are normally good, but boy my guts are off 2day :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 13, 2006, 04:26:07 PM
Anyway im here bluestars and i put a quite long post on before on page 5,6 or 7 i cant remember, but steve van halen is still getting my attention by only putting 1 or maybe 2 posts on and not saying much, i have a susicion he maybe an assasin but i'm not certain.
 O0
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 04:42:40 PM
good job manic, well played,...  i posted evidence on you followed by a vote, and you post a vote with a "you voted for me" reason... way to go..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 13, 2006, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: Hippo

Right, there's a few points that you're speculating about that need to be cleared up from my point of view. Firstly, all of the roles are completely random. And secondly, the rules to this game will not change - they are set in stone. BUT, what hammer is suggesting is well within the current rules of the game. It's up to the king ulitmately to decide, but as a town you have the power to impose any consequences you like upon a king who has made a bad decision. Cheers.


Right, sos thats sorted. You can all stop having a go at me for hurting Hippos feelings and trying to "wreck" his game. You can also all stop pointlessly speculating whether or not Hippo has made all the new guys Mafia to fool us.
Todays King has rejected any guidelines on his behaviour so he should be made fully accountable for a bad decision. Having said that I will try to help him obviously as I want a good lynch today that gives us some info.

As for not believing me or Moley then thats acceptable, but we are out there now. You know we are assassins or Masons, obviously there is the issue of why of earth a Mafia member would out himself and a scum partner on Day One which some of you are ignoring but never mind. Perhaps because its WIFOM*, but who knows. We are no threat and eventually one of us will be killed as the assassins cant let confirmed innocents hang around too long and that will clear the other one, however executing one of us just to find out is just doing the mafias work for them. The reason I claimed is because there are two of us then as long as a Vig doesnt go after us then one of us at least will be alive tomorrow and one of us should be the King.

Tommy is vaguely claiming Hero or Kingmaker which I don't believe and Stevenryals made a strange assumption that the town 100% has a Vig which we have no proof of.


Why cant you understand that if a king goes against what we say, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES, with out without your little 'guidelines'.

and yes hammer, i'm very sure the town can kill at night..

Everything here makes it look like he is indeed a Vigilante, then he backtracks out of it saying it would be stupid to claim on Day One. Clearly I could be way off, but that phrasing just seemed a bit odd.

I am off the the weekend now and hopefully will come back to see that no one has been executed yet, especially Me or Moley and if someone has hopefully Tommy or Quigmaster.
Executing me would be doing the Mafias work for them, as you have seen in past games that the most experienced players seem to get killed or targetted first (I had two recruitment attempts made on me in the first night in Good vs Evil, Hippo constantly gets killed and Axeman normally bares the brunt of the bad actions early on) for negative actions. A few people are getting by on the excuse that they have nothing to say even when so much has gone on, so they should be checked out.
The new guys are doing their share so once the originals get posting this could be a good game.

 :cheers: = Me and Mo1ey in our mason group
 :police:  = Unknown so stay quiet
:vincent: :tommy: :bigboss: = Tommy, Quigmaster and Manic (he is always Mafia ;))
:fool: = Amadjin :D



*http://happyaxeman.co.uk/community/index.php?topic=6850.msg82566#msg82566 (http://happyaxeman.co.uk/community/index.php?topic=6850.msg82566#msg82566)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 13, 2006, 04:59:14 PM
Man two days off and 5 pages to wade through and still not much further along, still better to take the time and get it right.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 13, 2006, 05:03:37 PM


 :cheers: = Me and Mo1ey in our mason group
 :police:  = Unknown so stay quiet
:vincent: :tommy: :bigboss: = Tommy, Quigmaster and Manic (he is always Mafia ;))
:fool: = Amadjin :D




think you will find ive been a good guy the past 3 games, so i think thats your way of trying to start a bandwagon on me. so vote me and find out its the only way if you think i'm guilty ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 05:04:12 PM
Hammer, is this enough proof for you?

Vigilante wrote:
Quote from: From Vigilante
You are a radical vigilante. Upset with the Kingmaker system imposed on the town, you have decided to save the town on your own terms. Each night, you have the option to kill another player in the town whom you believe is an assassin. Because of your strong opposition to the Kingmaker system, you will never receive the opportunity to become a Kingmaker, but you may still be chosen to take the throne as King. You win when all the assassins are executed.



This is posted on the first page, if thats not enough proof for you, I cant bring any more proof than that...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker
Post by: Sir Villain on October 13, 2006, 05:05:48 PM

The townsfolk bring their own talents to the aid of the town. Any of these roles may be in the town, and there may be more than one of a particular role. There may also be roles listed who do not appear in this town.

The only role guaranteed to appear in the game from the following is that of the Kingmaker.



No thats not proof enough for me.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 13, 2006, 05:08:55 PM
Anyway im here bluestars and i put a quite long post on before on page 5,6 or 7 i cant remember, but steve van halen is still getting my attention by only putting 1 or maybe 2 posts on and not saying much, i have a susicion he maybe an assasin but i'm not certain.
 O0
didnt see no long post and your gettin on to others for not posting
tommy catons hairsytlist is lookin suspicous
hammer and moley are claiming they are both masons but i think these could be playing a really good game and are infact evil

so these are top of execution list at the minute still not going to execute anyone yet though see what they have to say

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 05:13:07 PM
Come on hammer, do you really believe hippo would go through the trouble of coming up with a role, posting it in the little quote box and then not give that role to anyone?  thats just in there so you would quote it in the game...  and thats the only reason.. all of those roles are in the game, every one of those roles has been assigned to a person.. garuanteed..  I cant see any sane person wasting that much of thier time, when it's already very time consuming to moderate a game..

-steven
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 13, 2006, 05:23:10 PM
1.tommy catons hairsytlist is lookin suspicous
2.hammer and moley are claiming they are both masons but i think these could be playing a really good game and are infact evil

1. I agree
2. Could be either although I would disagree that two assassins would be playing a good game by coming out of Day One and linking each other together, one of us will have to die to definitively prove it. The same could be said about anyone though. Eventually the Mafia will have to kill us so don't do their dirty work for them.



Come on hammer, do you really believe hippo would go through the trouble of coming up with a role, posting it in the little quote box and then not give that role to anyone?  thats just in there so you would quote it in the game...  and thats the only reason.. all of those roles are in the game, every one of those roles has been assigned to a person.. garuanteed..  I cant see any sane person wasting that much of thier time, when it's already very time consuming to moderate a game..
-steven

As a mod I can see a number of reasons why he would have done that.

1.There is only one killing group so if a Cop knows for certain that he has a doctor what is to stop him claiming on Day One and getting protection until the Mafia kills the Doctor.

2. The hero role is better for the Mafia than the town. What better role to claim as for an assassin who is about to get lynched?  They could last the whole game without getting tested or counterclaimed because there might not be a Hero. Its a high risk, high reward tactic for Scum which we will have to look out for.

3. Too confuse people and to make people think there are roles in the game that there are not. We have seen no evidence so far that we have any power roles apart from mine and Mo1eys claim of masons yet you have assumed they are all in the game. That makes it easier for a Mafia member to claim something later on.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 13, 2006, 05:35:13 PM
OMG...Hammer.....yo u are finally making some points that I can follow...well sort of....but
dangit...if at the same time now I am confused....I see Steven's point...why make
all of these roles if someone isn't going to fill them or not....but then again....
I see Hammer's point that you could do that just to confuse the game.
So...hahaha....I'm more confused! Go figure!
 ??? ???

I was thinking that there is a possibility that at least one or two of the roles may
not have players..didn't think it mattered until Hammer's point
about people using it later to confuse the issue and save themselves!!!

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 06:18:06 PM
well, i'm going to assume that all the roles are used, and at the end of the game, i may be proved wrong. 

who's to say that there are masons in this game?  It's a good role to claim, as if another mason comes out and says "no we are the masons" you just say hey, it's not a power role, and hippo must have made two groups..

anyway, like I said, I am going to continue to assume that the roles will all be used.  Either way... no way to find out until the end of the game.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 13, 2006, 06:43:30 PM
FOOKIN HELL!!!

Hammer's Rules
Ok, i'm not goin to do my usual long winded old fashion language post because i have to think about that and i've only just woke up so i canna be arrrrsssed.
Hammers rules cannot be enforced and i will now explain the reason why.  The game has already started and therefore if hammer has got an evil role, he could be trying to enforce these because they will benefit his team. A townie could just come up with an idea for a new rule where all mafia die randomly at night. Its pointless and unfair as the game has already started. Nobody knows what team hammer is on, but he could have ideas to use his rules to help his role.  thats why they can't be enforced.

Laser Blue
In other news, laser blue, thank you for unvoting me and realising that my name is FOZZA not FOSSA!!! Top man.

Mr Ryals Himself
I agree with you about hammers rules to a certain extent but there is no need to have a go at him and call people names n stuff. End of the day he may be only trying to help, although it isnt, so stop bitching. You are accusing hammer of not playing the game cause he is making new rules, but you are spending so much time bithcing about the rules he is making, that you aren't playing the games either. Sorry but that had to be said.

AND ON A FINAL NOTE
Tommy Catons Hairstylist

GET YOUR HAIR CUT!!!
lol
Peace out my brothers. Holla at ya boy. lmao


P.S I told you these night shifts would catch up on me. insomnia
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 06:50:06 PM
i'm not even going to respond to that fossa .  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 13, 2006, 06:56:47 PM
well, i'm going to assume that all the roles are used, and at the end of the game, i may be proved wrong. 
anyway, like I said, I am going to continue to assume that the roles will all be used.  Either way... no way to find out until the end of the game.

You mentioned earlier that assassin has ass in it, so does assume and as I am sure you have heard that when you assume you make an ass out of me and you.


If all these roles are in the game it makes it very hard for a Mafia player to claim anything so it is a way of balancing the game which as a mod you have to try and do. Obviously we will know more at the end of the game so there is no point speculating about it.

who's to say that there are masons in this game?  It's a good role to claim, as if another mason comes out and says "no we are the masons" you just say hey, it's not a power role, and hippo must have made two groups.


I am to say there are masons in this game, so is Moley. If some more masons came out now then I would have to suspect them of being mafia as I know we are the real masons.

King, is there anyone else other than Me. Mo1ey and Tommy that you are thinking about. Threatening some of these non-posters might get them out of the woodwork because they know that votes against them have no meaning.

___________________ __________
In response to Fozza who posted during mine


Fozza take a look at this. This is exactly the point im trying to get accross that people seem to be ignoring. This is not like saying that we should change the games system by making all Mafia have to post in blue or something absurd like that. It is making a set of guidelines that are well within the game designs. I have tryed to get this point across countless times, but its like beating my head against a brick wall. Read this and see what Hippo thinks?

Quote from: hippo
Right, there's a few points that you're speculating about that need to be cleared up from my point of view. Firstly, all of the roles are completely random. And secondly, the rules to this game will not change - they are set in stone. BUT, what hammer is suggesting is well within the current rules of the game. It's up to the king ulitmately to decide, but as a town you have the power to impose any consequences you like upon a king who has made a bad decision. Cheers.

You say that I might have an evil role and my guidelines would benefit the evils. I can see the point that it gives the assassins a better chance to interfere with the process if the King is pro-town, but my point is that we do not know what side Yorkshire is on at the moment. By setting up a procedure that we can measure current and future kings by we get information on their alignhments and people they might be working with along with noticing people who have pushed for certain peoples lynching and so forth but I have already said all of this. People have repeatedly said that "everyone is against it" when I have only seen a handful of people completely criticise it, but those few are doing the most posting while the ones who have said it might be a good idea (Dotleo, Church, Currie, Amadjin) have barely featured. It seems as though the current King has no desire to do anything like this so there is no point debating it anymore....well I say debate although its not really been a debate, more of a bickering session like in the House of Commons with accusations and name calling.


Have a good weekend and up the Villa! Something there will be something good for me to read when I get back.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 13, 2006, 07:17:08 PM
it is a good idea hammer as im certain us town people have the majority,so it would be an entirely good idea until later on in the game where numbers get closer,so fozza you sayin it could help the evil,well frankly,it wouldnt...not until the latter stages....so i think you deserve a vote for being tired and daft...a long winded post with a daft assumption

Vote FOSSA lol
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 13, 2006, 07:19:13 PM
oh and axy i feel the between us flourishing :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 13, 2006, 07:40:29 PM
*last rules post*
Having read what hippo wrote about the rules i agree that what hammer says is within the scope of the current game rules.
we can enact those rules, but i really dont think its necessary as I've stated before. 

#1 it complicates the game for all the newbies
#2 if any king goes against the towns decision and is wrong, he WILL suffer the consequences of those actions be it a night kill (if we have that) or in the next day's lynch


hammer, if you want to compile the list of percentages you can, sure, but I dont see any of those guidelines as enforcable.

anyway...

------------------------------

now, I know axeman has had some probs and has some business to tend to, but in the coming days i'm expecting MUCH more participation from him as in the past.

Quig now has full access for days but isnt contributing and he is a veteran of the game.  VOTE QUIG

Dotleo, an up and coming 'almost veteran' is playing silent as well.. my vote stays

Tommy, could be a bad idea to lynch old tommy, i will wait until we get more info unvote tommy the hairstyleguy

Amadjin's quipps arent enough to make me think he's innocent, and he's definately a veteran, so he needs to post more and contribute more with good info to help the town out.  vote amadjin

here is my other list of suspicions:

Billyman
Bluestarsneyes
ChurchofHalo
Currieman
Fozza
Laserblue
Manic
Steve Van Halen
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 13, 2006, 07:42:12 PM
Now that Moley has confirmed that he is a mason I will Unvote Sir Hammer because, even if they are mafia, there isn't much point keeping my vote on him as Yorkshire already has them at the top of the suspect list.
I still think it was odd that Hammer said he was a normal townie and then came out as a mason but with Moley confirming both their roles they are either assassins working together or they really are masons. The only way we will find out is if one of them is killed.

Anyway, there really hasn't been too much going on other then this if I'm being honest as Steven and Bluestars seem to have posted the most but have just repeated what they said earlier.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Hippo would've used all the roles that he made quotes for because otherwise he wouldn't have posted them I don't think.

I'm still not sure who I think is the most suspicious (besides Hammer) so I will go back and have a look at some point before casting another vote.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 13, 2006, 09:21:36 PM
I guess I can just sit back and not post...but then again...being new I can use that as an excuse right?
NOPE...seems that doesn't work either...so I post trying to get a response out of anyone other than Hammer or Steven

It seems like a lifetime before anything is going to happen because everyone seemed too worried to post
anything before today....so if nothing else....this newbie got all your bums on the board today...and
made you read...way to go...I'm just trying to learn from Hammer...hahaha...j/k

I may regret this later...but I see no reason to vote for Hammer...rather than anyone else...and the
fact that he is at least attempting to play the game is entertaining if nothing else...

P.S.....Nice Steven...I think you are suspicious of everyone in the game :laugh:

UNVOTE HAMMER


VOTE....no one....everyone looks guilty

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 13, 2006, 09:53:56 PM
Steveryals, why do you always find me suspiscous?  :-\

The only people I find to be suspiscous here are the johnny foreigners. I say we flush them out and if you call me xenophobic I dont care. I dont know these people

vote all the yanks playing this game

I dont even know which ones are american but the yanks are always suspiscous, just look at their reasons for invading iraq  ;D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Quig on October 13, 2006, 11:58:42 PM
I'm evil and want to kill you all. Mhahah
Thats enough for my vote :P

Jokes aside, i'm not so sure on Hammy anymore. I think he is just being annoying now over being evil. Steve Van Halen seems to be trying to get people killed for their nationally, which is racist. Normally it seems that the people who joke around are mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 14, 2006, 12:05:10 AM
so im mafia for playing along? makes no sense....
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 14, 2006, 12:07:20 AM
Only the mafia joke?! Who are you the humour police?!



Im not rascist, I hate everyone equally


___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ _________________

This is your last vote count until monday as i won't be on til then. Obviously if anyone wants to save me time on monday trawling through 900 votes and 47 unvotes, by doing one for themselves, i wouldn't compain  ;).

Also, if anybody is executed in this time, there's to be no talking after the order is given, and i'd ask a mod to lock the thread as soon as it is given if possible. Though it does look like you have a lot of discussion and things to sort out before that happens, so in all likelihood it won't happen before then.


Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer, stevenryals (2)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist (1)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, Fozza, mo1ey UK, amadjin (4)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo, manic (3)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: tommy catons hairstylist, amadjin (2)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)
Steve Van Halen: afroboy (1)
Amadjin: Tommy catons hairstylist, Happy Axeman, stevenryals (3)
Manic: stevenryals (1)

Have fun  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 14, 2006, 01:37:21 PM
"anyway.. on to the game...  and no more talk of this crap.."

well said

i was finding it all a bit disturbing :(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 14, 2006, 02:30:30 PM
LASERBLUE SPEAKS!!!  mighty quiet you've been...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 14, 2006, 02:39:31 PM
are we playing a mafia game or having a national friggin debate about the war on Iraq. funnily enough our government have been having this debate for a few years now and they dont have a solution so i'm not sitting around for two years while u all figure this shite out.

NEXT PERSON TO CALL ME FOSSA GETS A VOTE
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 14, 2006, 03:16:01 PM
I agree Fogga.  :)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 14, 2006, 04:00:00 PM
so if i call you Fozza will you unvote me ?


 O0
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 14, 2006, 04:18:13 PM
"LASERBLUE SPEAKS!!!  mighty quiet you've been..."

yeh my son plays footy on a sat & sun I also start new job on mon..... so my attention has been elsewhere. ;D

about the game...... i hope the yorkshire king has a better idea than me cause there are still a lot of players i don't have a clue about........ are they suspicious for just not posting much ???  I'm glad it's not me making the decision on the first day............. or will things become clearer ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 14, 2006, 04:28:46 PM
I thing if I had to chose right now, I would chose Afroboy... not sure why...  him or Amadjin..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 14, 2006, 05:05:09 PM
why do people have to be fucking racist? especially in what is supposed to be a fun game where EVERYONE is welcome.

dont do it on my forum, cause i dont like it in the slightest.

Where you are born, you have no choice as its your parents who choose where you live and grow up. we are all born in this world with no conceptions of race creed or colour, if your racist its how youve been brought up. Racist people can fuck off from my site as its as welcome as a dose of clap.  >:(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: froganomis on October 14, 2006, 06:08:04 PM
steve me being executed would be a bad start to the game,dont you think we need to get rid of bad guy?
and where have my votes come from?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 14, 2006, 06:35:25 PM
Why have you suddenly started thinking  im suspicious for no apparent reason ??? If you do have a reason i would like to hear it.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 14, 2006, 06:54:28 PM
All I can say is day one must be the hardest day to be king cause you have the most chance of getting it wrong, still at least you won't be the first to die :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 14, 2006, 07:47:19 PM
Hey I was only joking, all I said was to vote the yanks - i didnt call you war mongering fat jerks or anything like that did i?


Im sorry I offended but I was a bit surprised you took it seriously.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 14, 2006, 11:29:57 PM
Unvote: Tommy Catons Hairstylist

It was a joke vote and he knows my real name. Nice one mate.

Vote: Steven Ryals
Because he is winding me up and doesnt know my name

Vote: Any racist people in this game should be modkilled and have their accounts closed

Well said by the way axeman. We're all grown ups so stop behaving like kids ffs
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 15, 2006, 04:02:37 PM
yea, i'm winding you up a bit fozza..  :)

You just made it so easy though... 

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 15, 2006, 04:12:25 PM
I'm glad the racist talk is over.....all joking aside....I think we all need to remember this is a game....and the point of a game
is to have fun and escape reality.....

First day is taking forever........
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 15, 2006, 04:25:45 PM
I go away for a bit over the weekend and the game falls apart into this shit.
I have deleted some of the rubbish above so others don't have to waste time reading it and to save Hippo the trouble ;)
Take the history debates over to general chat if you want.
Back to the game

___________________ ___________________ ___________________ _

Does anyone have any suspisions?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: hippo on October 15, 2006, 04:33:17 PM
I have NO idea what happened, but can we not let this game be ruined, because i've worked pretty hard on it. We'll have no more mention of these little squabbles or whatever they were. Or there WILL be deaths. And i don't mean in the game.  ;)

Lets play.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 15, 2006, 04:37:40 PM
what about dotleo ???

has not been on for ages & when he did he just voted for me & steven ryals cause we have same avant (or whatever)

is this suspicious .......or just me being paranoid :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 15, 2006, 04:43:20 PM
what about dotleo ???

has not been on for ages & when he did he just voted for me & steven ryals cause we have same avant (or whatever)

is this suspicious .......or just me being paranoid :D

Paranoia in this game is a good thing. I admit Dotleo looks shifty, but I think that is just his general demeanor. His popping on just stir things up with a vote is looking dodgy though. I wonder what he has to say on the matter.....
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 15, 2006, 07:52:36 PM
It's really quiet so i thought i'd post because no one else has for ages, i vote everyone beacause you're all suspicious in one way or another (well most people) but that would be pointless so unvote everyone!!! :)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 15, 2006, 09:31:38 PM
the first day is always the hardest for people to play in, but this seems to be taking longer than usual, 220+ posts suggest this.
I know i personaly havent contributed much, but i have really been pushed for time lately due to site maintenance after my BB being down, i will be on much more in the afternoons now.

But we need yorkshire to look at who has voted who so far, try and look at the major events of the day, and make there decision based on there instincts, otherwise the day will never end. lol

its a never ending mafia story. e-e-eee-e-e-eee-e-e-ee  :laugh:

VOTE FOZZA - for getting annoyed at Mr Ryals for getting his name wrong. lol
VOTE STEVE VAN HALEN - For taking things a bit too far.
VOTE STEVEN RYALS - for winding up. my spider sense reckons he is acting very suspicously. lol
VOTE TOMMY CATONS HAIRSTYLIST - Cause he really does need his Hair cut. lol  O0
VOTE AFROBOY - As above. lol  O0 and for voting for anyone and no-one when there not even playing! lol
VOTE THE QUIGMASTER - My Instincts always sway to Hammers brother being evil for some reason. lol

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: dotLeo on October 15, 2006, 11:27:11 PM
what about dotleo ???

has not been on for ages & when he did he just voted for me & steven ryals cause we have same avant (or whatever)

is this suspicious .......or just me being paranoid :D

well, I was reading and taking part now and then, but it all got a bit silly, so I thought I would sit out this day and resume proceedings tomorrow..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 16, 2006, 12:12:19 AM
well, I was reading and taking part now and then, but it all got a bit silly, so I thought I would sit out this day and resume proceedings tomorrow..

If everyone did that then it would be a bit of a shit day
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: dotLeo on October 16, 2006, 12:38:07 AM
you're right, as usual for once ;)

I'll have a read of it tomorrow and see what I can conclude..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 16, 2006, 01:34:23 AM
Sorry for the lack of activity over the last couple of days but it was the weekend !!

I don't really have any new suspicions reading through the last few pages though it was good to seen some new posters but i am going to vote Manic because i haven't seem him/her post at all yet.

 O0
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 16, 2006, 10:26:58 AM
Not sure everyone should be being quite so paranoid in the first day of the game, all it does is force everyone into thier shells, it too early to make any real assumptions about people because its till the first day.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 16, 2006, 12:39:18 PM
Sorry for the lack of activity over the last couple of days but it was the weekend !!

I don't really have any new suspicions reading through the last few pages though it was good to seen some new posters but i am going to vote Manic because i haven't seem him/her post at all yet.

 O0

well i have posted a few times, not really a valid reason for voting is it ::) and if i was a she there would not be a man at the end of my name :doh:  ive not really got many suspects at the mo, steven ryals is my main one though, he is just evil to the bone >:D :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 16, 2006, 01:11:37 PM
It is hard to catch an assassin on the first day, but there is a small chance it could work out. Look in the Zombie game. The town lynched a Godfather on the first day, so it can be done. Even if the lynch is wrong as long as we have had enough discussion and gained information then its not a pointless day.

You say its too early to make assumptions, but I have made a few.I've noticed that Steven and Bluestars seem just to constantly back each other up and might be in a group. Later on we can go back and see what people said today and use it. Obviously that won't happen if people just post nothing worthwhile like alot have been.
The fact that I am the main suspect for claiming mason (when my innocence has been backed up by Mo1ey) when I was under pressure after "suggesting an idea" shows how much people have been hiding in their shells already.

The people that just come on to say some inane comment with a vote are looking shifty to me and also people like Currieman and Steve Van Halen have been much quieter than in past game and have so far slipped under the radar.

Obviously like you say Churchy this is all just suspisions and paranoia at this point, but by doing stuff like this you can get an opinion on people by their reactions (or lack of one).


_______________

Does anyone else think this may have been a freudian slip from Stevenryals?

but we kill them in the night phase

and yes hammer, i'm very sure the town can kill at night..

These two seem strongly to indicate that Steven can kill at night. Anyone else agree?

Then Tommy posted this

Quote from: Tommy Catons
well most have disagreed with Hammers rules except Fozza so maybe those two are working in conjuntion and trying to gain some control over the king by getting Hammers extra rules put in place.
and Steven responded with


This sounds suspicious, a blab post stating that they are guilty because they want control over who gets executed; when the simple fact is, if the town controls who gets executed, it obviously give the town more power, but thats not the game we are playing... 

Doesn't this strike you as a bit odd? Steven and Bluestars have been virtually the only critics to the guidelines and now Steven is sticking up for what he seemed to be really angry about only a day or two ago in this post

Quote from: stevenryals
SHIT MAN... this is retarded... Hammer, you've gotta stop...  can you not see that all the shit you are proposing is just a formality of what is ALREADY going to happen... a town oriented king is going to do what the town says...  assisins may not, but we kill then in the night phase or the next day the new king kills them... damn...  is that really so hard for you to grasp.. but dont put rules on it, thats the point of the game...
damn...  i'm so annoyed with you right now

This was shortly after my post attacking Tommy for ramming his newness down our throats. Steven quickly backed me up and then voted Tommy later for that post. Seems to me like he was hoping a bandwagon would start on Tommy.

Confirm Vote:Stevenryals
for his Doublethink
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 16, 2006, 01:30:07 PM
1st, hammer, there are no bandwaggons in this game, as our votes dont even really count, it's all up to yorkshire.

secondly, I could come out and tell everyone what my role it, but it would be somewhat anticlimactic seeing as I'm not the hero, or a doctor, or a cop...  this game, this time around, is a little more painful to some roles for reasons that are obvious if you have those roles.  I'm sure there are a few that would agree.  And if you are a mason, lynching me would definately not help the townies out.  You're best to focus your attention elsewhere.  Oh, I cant protecte you either, nor can I heal you or make anything.  Pull up all the posts you wish, and quote them like they are the bible if you want, but the simple fact is, after day one I have been and will be one of the most important townies simply because I like to route out evil and also because I sit behind a computer for 9 hours a day at work and play this game.  In conclusion, I've made it fairly obvious what my role is here, and making a big deal out of it is just asking the mafia to kill me in the night phase, of course that would help thier cause much... so.. Just like in the last game, I got rid of hippo before I went after anyone else that I knew were not on my disgusting zombie team simply because I knew he spent a lot of time reading and looking into things and that is a more important role that investigating or healing or anything...  because when it comes down to it, that's how you win the game.

Thirdly, I have kinda stuck with bluestarsneyes... and there's a good reason...   she's got the goods man...  :)  But to be totally honest, I have a hunch that she is guilty.  She acts funny when she grabs my laptop (no jokes please) and reads the board..  she just acts funny..  I think when it all comes down to it, you'll all see that she is guilty.. but I cant prove anything because there is no 'past actions' to rely on, and voting pattern is a bit lacked in this game thus far..  But I think you'll see..

didnt call you war mongering fat jerks or anything like that did i?

VOTE steve van halen   for continuing to be an ass
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 16, 2006, 01:47:49 PM
Pull up all the posts you wish, and quote them like they are the bible if you want,

Yeah, thanks I will. Thats the point of the game.

You have not really answered my post at all. I was just wondering whether or not you have converted and now agree with the guidelines which you were so against a few days ago? I don't actually think you are mafia I was just wondering about those posts I quoted where you say you can kill people at night.

And yes there are bandwagons. If it was all up to Yorkshire, where is he and what investigation work has he done to help find these assassins. Basically after 1 week of real time we have still come down to a random pick.

Just like in the last game, I got rid of hippo before I went after anyone else that I knew were not on my disgusting zombie team simply because I knew he spent a lot of time reading and looking into things and that is a more important role that investigating or healing or anything...  because when it comes down to it, that's how you win the game.


Then why have you been constantly having a go at me just for trying to do something? Even now in your last post you criticise "quoting stuff like the bible"?

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 16, 2006, 02:22:07 PM
I'm not aligned with anyone.....I just happen to agree with Steven sometimes because...we had the same opinion.
But a few others agreed with him also....and like Steven....I have a job behind a computer all day...and last week
was boring at work...so I posted.

I haven't read all of the posts from the weekend...so I'm going to read a bit more...but I just think
Manic has something to hide.
He's at the top of my lists.....I have nothing to go on...except that is posts are few...very short...and
he doesn't have much to say even to really deny being mafia or anything.....it's just the same excuse
as a few others....nothing going on in the game....so got nothing to say.

So....overall....i'm ready for the game to begin really because this is sort of boring...

P.S......I'm cracking up that Steven thinks I'm suspicious with the laptop...hahaha!
We agreed that we would keep our roles secret from one another to make it more fun....
I didn't know I was being suspicious.....just playing the game :yeah:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 16, 2006, 02:34:08 PM
yo, hammer, I've always thought your guidelines were a protown idea, and good for the town.. but I also know that #1 it's not ok to make up rules after the game starts.  #2, those guidelines would be unenforcable.  #3 those consequences that you speak of are already in place.  So, agree or not, I dont think your rules were well thought out in the least.  Because without any talk of it, if a king were to break anyof the 'unwritten rules' of this game, he would surely suffer the consequences the following night or the next day.
sorry for 'having a go at you' so to speak nothing harsh meant

bluestarsneyes...wh y do you think manic has something to hide?  his lack of posting, what??
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 16, 2006, 02:45:34 PM
sorry Manic, when i re-read the list of entrants and you were listed as Manic not ManicMonkeyMan, so when i skimmed through the posts i was only looking for Manic. So unvote Manic

Axeman i've had a haircut so can you unvote me now ?   8)

The only conclusion i have come to though which would not involve a general townie to be killed would be killing Hammer or Mo1ey. But as regards to who the real Mafia are i still as yet have no clue.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 16, 2006, 03:08:33 PM
You know what....I just said I was suspicious of him...I take it back....no evidence...I just seem him posting little...
but then again....so many others have posted much less....I don't know...I'm not calling anyone out yet...still reading...
Sorry...it's Monday...and I'm moody.


___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ____________

Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer, stevenryals, Happy Axeman (3)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist (1)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, mo1ey UK, amadjin, Happy Axeman (4)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo, manic, fozza, Happy Axeman (5)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: tommy catons hairstylist, amadjin, Happy Axeman (3)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)
Steve Van Halen: afroboy, Happy Axeman, stevenryals (3)
Amadjin: Tommy catons hairstylist, Happy Axeman, stevenryals (3)
Manic: stevenryals (1)
afroboy: Happy Axeman (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 16, 2006, 05:14:27 PM
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo, manic, fozza, Happy Axeman (5)

that sucks.. hammer said he doesnt necessarily think i'm guilty...
dotleo and manic voted for me simply because i voted for them
fozza voted for me because i called him fogga and fossa and fobba.. :) 
happy axeman just voted almost everybody... so..

that sucks..

I guess I'll play the game as everyone seems to be playing..

VOTE FOZZA
VOTE HAPPYAXEMAN
VOTE SIRHAMMER
VOTE AFRO
VOTE LASERBLUE


is that how it's supposed to be doen?


just kidding,

UNVOTE ALL MY VOTES

vote manicmonkeyman  I have a feeling about him and quigg....
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 16, 2006, 05:41:33 PM
#1 it's not ok to make up rules after the game starts. 

Are you trying to annoy me? I have pointed it out countless times and you still have not grasped that we are not "making up rules". The creator of the game has already said that any system we decide to impose is "well within the rules of the game"

#2, those guidelines would be unenforcable.

Why would they be unenforcable? If the King chooses to go against the guidelines, then he will be under pressure tomorrow and possiblely lynched for it. Thats how its enforced.

#3 those consequences that you speak of are already in place. 

So, agree or not, I dont think your rules were well thought out in the least.  Because without any talk of it, if a king were to break anyof the 'unwritten rules' of this game, he would surely suffer the consequences the following night or the next day.
sorry for 'having a go at you' so to speak nothing harsh meant

If they are already in place then whats the problem with giving it a try?
So at some point according to you my ideas have been good, not thought out well, protown, unenforceable and retarded. Pretty contradictory.
People can read this and get worked up over me labouring my point again or try to listen to what I have to say. At least it will give a shape to the rest of this day which has gone painfully stale thanks to lurkers and "no-thinkers".
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 16, 2006, 06:00:46 PM
This game is getting out of hand and its not getting anywhere. Someone PM me when normality is resumed
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 16, 2006, 06:29:08 PM
Come on lets get serious or we're going to get nowhere. The most suspicious i can see so far is Dotleo. He just came in radnomly with a vote with no evidence that he had read previous posts. Its a bit fishy. So no more voting for people who call people by the wrong name. even though it wasnt funny

Unvote: That Ryals Character
Vote: Dotleo

Well picked up on by the way laser blue
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 16, 2006, 06:29:57 PM
Currieman has been bit quiet recently despite being online today would like to hear his thoughts
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 16, 2006, 06:32:45 PM
13 pages, surely its time for the KING to do something.  this thing is getting stale
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 16, 2006, 06:36:23 PM
I've been thinking of posting something but there really isn't much to say as it's just the same old stuff.

Nobody knows who to vote for because everyone is suspicious, StevenRyals is still saying that he doesn't like Hammer's rules or does like them. He's changed his mind so many times I can't keep track.

Nothing is actually happening, a few people are saying "I think he looks suspicious" and then voting but that's it.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 16, 2006, 06:39:09 PM
I agree....I don't have any experience with how these days go normally...but this is
dreadfully long....It seems like everytime a conversation starts to go about the
game something is sidetracked...

Where is the King by the way?
I agree....let him come in and give his ideas....because something needs to be going on?
I would think at this point we should at least be having more ideas about
who might be working together and the town having opinions to offer the king....but
honestly....most of us all sound pretty clueless and just voting for lame reasons.

Not much to go on....so maybe the king can spark a new debate....I hope so..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 16, 2006, 06:49:22 PM
13 pages, surely its time for the KING to do something.  this thing is getting stale
there isnt much to say its not going far i might just make my mind up soon

top of execute list are
tchs
dotleo
steven ryals most votes plus see what he as to say
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: laserblue on October 16, 2006, 07:07:50 PM
no posts from me today sorry ..........just finished work & on way out to see New Order :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: billyman on October 16, 2006, 07:13:20 PM
am i still alive in this :laugh:

still havent had a chance to read through it all but from what i can make out it seems that we need to weed out the evil ones :laugh:

differant head title same old game :laugh:

i promise i will read through the 12 pages of posts tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: Sir Villain on October 16, 2006, 07:24:52 PM
Not much to go on....so maybe the king can spark a new debate....I hope so..

Possibly, but probably not. Theres only so much one man can do >:( The most people are voting Steven, Steve and Tommy on 4 with Quig and Amadjin next on 3. He should pick one of them although out of those I would say Tommy and Quig are my preferred choices, but obviously its up to him.

This game is getting out of hand and its not getting anywhere. Someone PM me when normality is resumed


Vote:Steve Van Halen for this post which is just pointless....

I went to see the padre on what to do, but I just ended up washing my arse in the font.

(http://www.garthmarenghi.com/images/photogallery/toddrivers.jpg)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: stevenryals on October 16, 2006, 07:33:47 PM
Hammer, if you cant understand the fact that your 'rules' are simply a formality for what is already in place in the subconcious of the townies, you should be grouped with those 'no-thinkers'.

yorkshire, i've already stated my case... the votes on me are for great reasons, such as "I have the same avatar as someone else", and "I called Fozza by the name of Fossa", and manic does the 'you voted for me, i voted for you thing".. the only vote on me that really counts righ tnow is axemans..  not sure why he did vote for me, since there were no reasons..


Yorkshire Blue... do something man.... I tell you what...  pick someone.. and if you're wrong I wont say anything..  and I dont think most people here would say it's your fault, but the day has to go.   SVH is a good target in my opinion..  :)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 16, 2006, 07:48:22 PM
the king as decided
this is because most of his postr are short and not much use and used is im new card far too often
so
execute tommy catons hairstylist

sorry if im wrong i needed to do cos games goin nowhere
and i thought he was most suspicous
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day One, KING: Yorkshireblue
Post by: hippo on October 16, 2006, 08:52:43 PM
The town gather around Tommy Caton's Hairstylist at the king's order; he puts up resistance pleading his innocence to the gathering mob, but he's soon overpowered. They drag him off to the centre of town, and the execution square. Having been beaten down, he now looks resigned to his fate as the executioner tightens the noose. "You're all idiots", he proclaims, but nobody pays attention. They just watch in anticipation as what they believe to be one of the deadly assassins dies in front of them. But, alas, it appears that an innocent has been executed today - after searching the body it is declared Tommy Catons Hairstylist was merely a plain member of the town.

The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One

IT IS NOW NIGHT ONE, THOSE WITH NIGHT ACTIONS ARE NOW PERMITTED TO USE THEM. THEY SHALL BE IN BY THURSDAY AT THE LATEST, OR BEFORE IF POSSIBLE.

Sleep tight  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Night One
Post by: hippo on October 17, 2006, 08:08:38 PM
As the sun rises over the horizon, the townfolk wake from their slumber. Dreams of far off places in happier times come to an abrupt end and they are once again faced with the realisation that they are a town in crisis. They all slowly emerge and gather in the square ready to face the new day. A quick head count reveals that one of them isn't present. Stevenryals is missing. A couple of members of the town rush off to his house to waken him for the new day, but as they enter they realise that steven won't be facing any more days. He has been shot in the head, still clutching the double whiskey he was consuming before he went to bed the previous night. But unfortunately for the town, they find no evidence of who has done this. And whats more, they find no evidence to link stevenryals to anybody. Once again, it appears a plain townie has died.

They return demoralised to where the rest of the town are gathered and word spreads. Somebody speaks up declaring that they must seek vengeance for the innocent deaths today, and make sure they execute an assassin. A royal representative steps forward and declares that currieman is to become the town's second king.


The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One


Players Alive
Afroboy
Amadjin
Billyman
Bluestarsneyes
ChurchofHalo
Currieman: KING
Dotleo
Fozza
Happy Axeman
Laserblue
Manic
Mo1ey UK
Sir Hammer
Steve Van Halen
The Quigmaster
Yorkshireblue


It is now Day Two.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 17, 2006, 08:15:34 PM
Another Townie dead  >:(

I do like Hammer's rules because they seem the fairest way to help the king make a decision and execute someone.
If the king just picks someone then it really is completely random whether they're innocent or evil.

But until everyone contributes we don't really have much to go on anyway

Will you still uphold this point of view now you have the power Currieman? or is it true that "absolute power corrupts absolutely"?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: billyman on October 17, 2006, 08:16:49 PM
damn! :-\ i miss most of the first day and when i do get in my cute little darlings it seems we are 2 down already >:(

ok, i see there are a couple of new players, welcome lads,(looking good i hear ;) hope you have had more input than i have in the past week or so :D

anyone else think that the whisky in stevenryals hand is a clue? maybe he was drinking with the killer? has anyone dropped any hints in previous posts about being a heavy drinker as a role? i have only sped red and probby missed more than i have actually taken in :laugh:

anyway its the only thing i can find to go on ;) whats this i see currieman is the new king????? is somebody out there thick or what  :laugh: i mean making currieman a king :laugh: only kidding kingy boss, long may you rule you handsome devil ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 17, 2006, 08:25:46 PM
As I am now the king I am no longer a normal townie so I can't really have a say on whether or not Hammer's rules can be put in place.

Needless to say I want to try and find evidence before I execute anyone because we don't want another townie to be killed like Tommy Caton was yesterday.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: stevenryals on October 17, 2006, 08:50:19 PM
At least I dont have to endure the long night phases without any night action.. thats the worst...

**urrhhggggg***

*one last sip of the wisky before i go*****

:(

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 17, 2006, 09:05:39 PM
Large new day post before I head out - Warning

___________________ ___________________ ____________-

As I am now the king I am no longer a normal townie so I can't really have a say on whether or not Hammer's rules can be put in place.

Surely you are the only one who can definitively say or not you will adhere to the Guidelines. Here they are again for your benefit.

___________________ _____________

Quote from: Guidelines
1.) The King has to wait until at least one person reachs a majority before any executions are ordered. This will make sure that enough talking has gone on and information has been gained. When someone does get a majority of the votes then they are put on the
Royal List of Execution.
Quote from: Guidelines
2.) If someone else then gets enough votes to give them a majority as well, then they are also put on the Royal List of Execution. This should mean that the king has a couple of Town-Approved candidates for a lynching and give him the choice.
Quote from: Guidelines
3.) Players who have direct (most likely investigative) evidence against them may be placed automatically on the Royal List of Execution., regardless of whether or not they have received over a majority of votes.
Quote from: Guidelines
4.) Players may be removed from the Royal List of Execution. (by the King) if they have direct (most likely investigative or Masonry) evidence to absolve them, or perhaps even a "Hero" claim and the King believes it (or the King believes said person to be the Hero even without a claim).
Quote from: Guidelines
5.) If the King feels a particular person is an assassin (but has no investigative evidence against them [or does have investigative evidence but does not wish to reveal such information], and that person is, for whatever reason, not on the Royal List of Execution.) the King may formally announce to the town that s/he is moving that person to The Royal List of Execution., and allow the town to have further discussion (as such a move should obviously create). This allows for the King to have greater autonomy, but makes certain that King will not just randomly execute people without at least some open discussion from the town.
Quote from: Guidelines
6.) The King has to announce in advance who he is going to execute, so that person can be given a chance to defend himself and reveal anything he has kept hidden so far.
Quote from: Guidelines
7.) The Workers have nothing to lose but their chains. This should be for the benefit of the Townies and if this system is overthrown then let it be

As you can see this limits the King, but still gives him a choice. I believe that using this everyday will give us the best chance of catching Scum and is needed now we are 2 down. I will keep track of the Royal List of Execution for you if you want and it will stop what happened yesterday happened again. A king taking things into his own hands just because he felt bored.

As for the two we have lost lets take a look at them.

Tommy - I pointed out that he constantly pointed out how new he was as a defense mechanism and normally that is a small Scum-sign so I thought it was worth a vote. Obviously a few more people voted him which is why Yorkshire executed him ( a bit prematurely I think ) and also he seemed to claim something but Im not sure what it was. He needed to elaborate on that and needed time to defend himself which Yorkshire didn't give him which I think looks a bit suspcisious. The day didn't need to end as we were waiting on posts from Billyman and Happy Axeman.

Steven - Obviously the argument between me and him was the main thing going on in the day yesterday, but as I said I wasn't sure of his guilt. He made some contradictory comments and some weird ones were he seemed to claim as a Vigilante (which might be why the Mafia went after him) which confused me when he denied it. He also said this....

Quote from:
"But to be totally honest, I have a hunch that she is guilty.  She acts funny when she grabs my laptop (no jokes please) and reads the board..  she just acts funny..  I think when it all comes down to it, you'll all see that she is guilty.. but I cant prove anything

Perhaps he had hit onto something and had to be silenced.


Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 17, 2006, 09:37:16 PM
Interesting....holy cow!
I can't believe TWO innocents were killed!

I'm sorry but I don't think there was any evidence against Tommy.
I never thought he was supicious....he just sound like a new player to me
and at least he was posting and involved in the game...same way as
Steven...wow you killed my boyfriend...that stinks....but still....I think
all these killings prove is that the KING got it WAY freaking wrong!!!!

I think killing off one of the players that hardly posted would have been an easy
choice...the only reason you can vote off Tommy is because he said he was
new too much!
Then Steven....you vote him off for why? Because he didn't agree with
Hammer? Sound suspicious to me? And was it the run ins with SVH?
How do you make comments like SVH and not be suspicious....its all
bunk to me...but I'm going back to read.

Currieman I sure hope you do as you say this time...gather some evidence...

So...yorkshire blue...sure are quiet?
Anything to say?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 17, 2006, 09:44:34 PM
well i got it wrong didnt i but its done now and tommys not in the game anymore but in every post he said he was new that was suspicous but i suppose i should have waited for him to reply

the main suspects to kill steven r svh or hammer (he proves his innocence but was always arguin with steven
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 17, 2006, 11:26:09 PM
At least I dont have to endure the long night phases without any night action.. thats the worst...

this you saying youve got a night action?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: dotLeo on October 17, 2006, 11:28:36 PM
well i got it wrong didnt i but its done now and tommys not in the game anymore but in every post he said he was new that was suspicous but i suppose i should have waited for him to reply

the main suspects to kill steven r svh or hammer (he proves his innocence but was always arguin with steven


why don't we kill off yorkshire for his dodgy actions? even if he is good, then it will be adequate warning to future kings..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 18, 2006, 12:34:34 AM
good luck with the rest of the game guys, though i don't really think the game had really got going by the sounds of it but i still enjoyed it. There was a clue in one of my posts about me being a townie but apart from Steve no one else bothered to look for it, found it or acknowledged that they found it.

Hopefully you eek out the Mafia so my death was not in vain


until next time

 O0


 

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 18, 2006, 06:32:34 AM
every time dotleo opens his moutht the word kill comes out. hes fookin evil me tell ya now. well i think he is but he is my prime suspect. along with billy. but billy has to be suspect becaus he drinks too much to still have a liver. suspicious. hmmmmm. Tommy. you did well my brother. you must now rest. sleep tight brother.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 18, 2006, 07:58:25 AM
I agree with fozza, dotleo is the most suspicious cause he only ever comes on to say we kill someone & never has a real reason to do it ;D




Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 18, 2006, 10:21:26 AM
Reckon your onto something there. On another note though I think that Yorkshire only executed Tommy to get the game going so we shouldnt read too much into that



All aboard the bandwagon!!!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 18, 2006, 01:32:24 PM
2 innocents dead :( at least we should still have enough numbers to root out the evil among us, just think we have to be a bit more careful in who we vote more, the voting at the end of the last day was very hasty, which myself was partly to blame for.  but yorkshire blue was very quick to execute tommy after a few hasty votes were entered.  maybe he was an assasin posing as a king, or is that not allowed, will have to read the rules ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: billyman on October 18, 2006, 01:52:39 PM
every time dotleo opens his moutht the word kill comes out. hes fookin evil me tell ya now. well i think he is but he is my prime suspect. along with billy. but billy has to be suspect becaus he drinks too much to still have a liver. suspicious. hmmmmm. Tommy. you did well my brother. you must now rest. sleep tight brother.

havent touched a drop all week, im being good this week :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 18, 2006, 02:21:50 PM
why don't we kill off yorkshire for his dodgy actions? even if he is good, then it will be adequate warning to future kings..
this is supicous others have said he only posts to kill someone.i said i made a mistake he was actually one of the people with most votes.
it wasnt that dodgy just i supposed i should have waited for his reply

any the game needed to move on

vote dotleo
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 18, 2006, 05:13:06 PM
I am willingly to help keep the band rolling.

Vote:Dotleo, Vote:Yorkshire Blue

For the reasons above. I reckon we should put Dotleo at list on the Royal List of Execution.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 18, 2006, 05:24:03 PM
Looks like the suspisions of Steven were wrong looks like we might have to reevaluate what ahs been said in light of this :-\
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 18, 2006, 05:52:08 PM
this you saying youve got a night action?

Steven is out of the game....not sure what you are saying here?
He was an innocent...what point are you making?

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 18, 2006, 06:07:28 PM
Dotleo in nearly every post has either tried to dodge his way out of posting or tryed to stir things up which is why I think he is worth a few votes until he redeems himself.

My vote on Yorkshire is just a token vote for rushing the Tommy lynch. Im not so sure on him being mafia, just abit impatient.

Blue stars, I think Amadjin has got confused. Vote:Bluestars because Steven said he thought she was guilty, then his was the next to get killed.

but yorkshire blue was very quick to execute tommy after a few hasty votes were entered.  maybe he was an assasin posing as a king, or is that not allowed, will have to read the rules ;)

That could be true. We don't know about Yorkshire or Curriemans side although I think the odds are they are both pro-town. Thats why I wanted the Kingmaker to make either me or Moley King as at least you are fairly certain of our innocence (claimed Masons, no one else counter-claimed) and we might not be around too long. This is why I have tried to get people to listen go along with the Guidelines as this will stop an assassin King getting away with a bad lynch.

I have tryed this before, but I would like people to actually vote on whether or not we should impose the Guidelines I quoted on the last page.

Sorry to shout, but its just getting ignored otherwise. Obviously I vote for it so there one, and I'll keep tally.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: stevenryals on October 18, 2006, 07:18:58 PM
STOP YELLING.. I'm trying to be dead!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 18, 2006, 08:05:31 PM
Steven is out of the game....not sure what you are saying here?
He was an innocent...what point are you making?

I think they are trying to say that the mafia picked on steven cause he seemed to hint at having night powers & so would be dangerous to them
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 18, 2006, 09:02:15 PM
Oh okay...sorry I was confused on that post....I'll claim ignorance rather than newbie to the game...so I don't die for being new!

Okay first off....voting for me because Steven "thought" I was suspicious is garbage....Steven thought alot of people were supicious and I think his main reason for thinking so had more to do with joking and me being his girlfriend rather than guilt or innoncence....

Plus Steven was supicious of ALOT of folks...I can't get the quote thing to work...but looking back at his last 3 pages of posts (P.S. Steven has way too much time on his hands...wow that man can POST)

Anyway....reading just here you will see he was looking at everyone!
October 16th

SVH is a good target in my opinion

October 16th

Thirdly, I have kinda stuck with bluestarsneyes... and there's a good reason...   she's got the goods man...  Smiley  But to be totally honest, I have a hunch that she is guilty.  She acts funny when she grabs my laptop (no jokes please) and reads the board..  she just acts funny..  I think when it all comes down to it, you'll all see that she is guilty.. but I cant prove anything because there is no 'past actions' to rely on, and voting pattern is a bit lacked in this game thus far..  But I think you'll see..

October 16th

VOTE steve van halen

October 14th
I thing if I had to chose right now, I would chose Afroboy... not sure why...  him or Amadjin..

October 13th
now, I know axeman has had some probs and has some business to tend to, but in the coming days i'm expecting MUCH more participation from him as in the past.

Quig now has full access for days but isnt contributing and he is a veteran of the game.  VOTE QUIG

Dotleo, an up and coming 'almost veteran' is playing silent as well.. my vote stays

Tommy, could be a bad idea to lynch old tommy, i will wait until we get more info unvote tommy the hairstyleguy

Amadjin's quipps arent enough to make me think he's innocent, and he's definately a veteran, so he needs to post more and contribute more with good info to help the town out.  vote amadjin

here is my other list of suspicions:

Billyman
Bluestarsneyes
ChurchofHalo
Currieman
Fozza
Laserblue
Manic
Steve Van Halen

****************************
So using that as a vote for me Hammer is lame. If you think I'm guilty then please come up with something other than that!

Because in my opinion from day one my vote has been for you because you seem the most supicious person in this game!
Not to be ugly but you are just beating this dead horse about the guidelines and at this point....I have always thought that your
insisting that you get your way has been a little off. I mean more than just myself has said...no thanks...but the debate continues....my question is this...add you guidelines and if they aren't followed...then here's an idea....if it doesn't go as planned the next king kills you off.

But at this point I could care less about these guidelines...they seem to vary in each post and are complicated.
I don't care if we have them...but just either make them the rules and get over with it...or drop it for GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that there are many supicious players that post very little or things that don't make any sense.
I think there were MANY that voiced opinions about killing off Steven and Tommy...here's the last vote count....

Vote Count
Thequigmaster: Sir Hammer, stevenryals, Happy Axeman (3)
Sir Hammer: Tommy Catons Hairstylist (1)
Bluestarsneyes: Sir Hammer (1)
Tommy Catons Hairstylist: Sir Hammer, mo1ey UK, amadjin, Happy Axeman (4)
Stevenryals: Sir Hammer, dotLeo, manic, fozza, Happy Axeman (5)
dotLeo: Stevenryals (1)
Fozza: tommy catons hairstylist, amadjin, Happy Axeman (3)
laserblue: dotLeo (1)
Steve Van Halen: afroboy, Happy Axeman, stevenryals (3)
Amadjin: Tommy catons hairstylist, Happy Axeman, stevenryals (3)
Manic: stevenryals (1)
afroboy: Happy Axeman (1)

I NEVER voted for either Tommy nor Steven.....so say what you want...I didn't have a vote in killing any innoncents!!!!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 18, 2006, 09:12:18 PM
Also interesting on that last vote count that
The first person to vote for Tommy and for Steven was none other than Sir Hammer....and the last being
for Tommy and Steven....Happy Axeman....

And both Tommy and Steven voted for one person in common Amajin on the last vote.

My Top list at this point
VOTE SIR HAMMER
VOTE HAPPY AXEMAN
VOTE AMAJIN
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 19, 2006, 02:31:46 AM
So what?

I have explained my reasons for voting them both. Obviously In hindsight I was wrong, but im not often wrong twice. You are Mafia, I am 100% sure and Steven knew it and had to be silenced.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 19, 2006, 04:01:45 AM
After saying in my previous post that Dotleo was guilty for just randomly accusing people, bluestars comes out and does exactly the same.

Vote: Dotleo For reasons previously stated
Vote: Bluestars For copying dotleo and being dumb
Vote: Manicmonkeyman Just a weird incling i had at this time of the morning.

I seem to have clarity at 4 AM. Maybe its because i finish work in 3 and a half hours.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 19, 2006, 01:08:15 PM
Oh okay...sorry I was confused on that post....I'll claim ignorance rather than newbie to the game...so I don't die for being new!

Okay first off....voting for me because Steven "thought" I was suspicious is garbage....Steven thought alot of people were supicious and I think his main reason for thinking so had more to do with joking and me being his girlfriend rather than guilt or innoncence....

Plus Steven was supicious of ALOT of folks...I can't get the quote thing to work...but looking back at his last 3 pages of posts (P.S. Steven has way too much time on his hands...wow that man can POST)


He was suspicious of everyone, but he said that he was sure your guilty. Then he ends up dead, and now you are trying to shift blame towards anyone Steven vaguely accused over the last few days.

We should seriously consider putting Dotleo on the Royal List of Execution as he has been caught out trying to just get by popping on and stirring things up. He intially said he would just start posting in Day Two again trying to hide, then coming out trying to get someone killed.



I agree with fozza, dotleo is the most suspicious cause he only ever comes on to say we kill someone & never has a real reason to do it ;D
Reckon your onto something there. On another note though I think that Yorkshire only executed Tommy to get the game going so we shouldnt read too much into that
All aboard the bandwagon!!!

Why no votes for him then gentlemen?

There are also alot of people not posting and until they do the game can't really progress. Instead of just randomly lynching one of these which is what normally happens I request that Hippo prods all the players that have not posted in the last 2 days (real time) to try and get some action from them so this game doesnt go round in circles.


___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ______________

In fairness, i did initially say the day was starting today, so that might be the reason for the inactivity. I'll send pm's if it's clear that they're just being inactive for the sake of it, and then start the hunt for replacements.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 19, 2006, 03:47:30 PM
First off I don't feel that I voted for people randomly.....I simply said that I feel that I don't think I necessarily buy Hammers assertion that he is a mason...and not mafia.....I also felt that it was very odd that the voting of Happy Axeman and Hammer were the same...so no it wasn't a random assertion....and that is an untrue and unfair claim. Read what I said.

I also have felt in my gut that Amajin posts little and doesn't ever really say much except but random jokes and he never asserts his guilt or innocence....I have said this before and so have others.

I am not mafia and if you look at my posts I think you can figure that out pretty quickly. I think killing me off because of Steven's jokes is ridiculous...Hammer I think you just want me out of the game because I don't agree with you and stand up to you....just like Steven so in my opinion you have as much motive as you say I do for killing off Steven.

I'm not sure if you are bluffing about being a mason it just seems a little off to me your motivations and I'm not sure you are what you seem...I can have a gut feeling about someone just like other people and not have to be killed off...isn't that the nature of this game?

I think I have stated my case on how I felt about the votes I casted...no one has really put forth any blatant responses of guilt or else the voting would be easy and to say that my vote is supicious and random is not true....like you said look at the others that have simply said....I don't know just a feeling he is guilty...why aren't you ragging on them?

Why me? What evidence can you give me that I am guilty other than Steven's responses? What is your own evidence....that is like me saying...in the original vote....some of these guys think Tommy is guily so I guess I'll jump on that too...instead of thinking with my own mind.

I think this all boils down to that Hammer you are chasing out me...just like you did Steven and I KNOW for a Fact you are not right....if you are on the up and up....then start with me and the other townies to search out the real mafia instead of arguing with me...I have a feeling that is why this board is so quiet if you and I kill each other off....then they have no need to talk because their job is being done for them!!!!

I may die but I am saying right now I am not mafia period.

___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ______________

Vote Count

dotLeo: yorkshireblue, sir hammer, fozza gump (3)
Yorkshireblue: sir hammer (1)
Bluestarsneyes: sir hammer, fozza gump (2)
Amadjin: bluestarsneyes (1)
Sir Hammer: bluestarsneyes (1)
Happy Axeman: bluestarsneyes (1)
Manic: fozza gump (1)
Steve Van Halen: manic (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 19, 2006, 05:15:12 PM
to be honest is hard to analyse much at the moment with the majority of players not really making a telling contribution to the game, it seems its the same people posting, there is not much going on.  is it any coincidence that to off the biggest posters on day one were killed, i think its about time we start to look at the peole with the least activity

billy is normally more active than this, and is slowly making my mind up that he may be an assasin.  alos svh, i know last game is completely different to this one, but he was very active in that one, so know he has gone back into his usual shell.  so at the moment votesvh also yorkshire blue is also a suspect in my eyes, yes the 1st day was going on too long, but his rash decision lost us one of our own, assasin at work maybe :-\
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 19, 2006, 05:52:48 PM
I was more active in the last game because I had more to work with. This time however I havent. I seem to be accmulating votes for all the wrong reasons and to be honest I dont care.

People voting for more than one person is just stupid, it takes part of the game away but it does allow people like amadjin the chance to stick with a vote rather than change it 3 times a day!!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: hippo on October 19, 2006, 06:19:41 PM
A cloaked figured steps forward from the masses, and halts the town from their inaudible mutterings. "People of Solomonia, our king is dead. Two innocents have been murdered. Do any of you care?", the town stare at their feet, but the man continues undeterred, "How do you expect to find an assassin without accusing anybody? Do you really feel that somebody would crack under timid accusations in which 8 people are named? They don't even have to defend themselves from it. That's not pressure. That's not anything.

"From what i see, not one person has made a solid effort to prove that their feelings about ONE person should be trusted by others." He looks around to see some stirring. "We need conflict, people, without that, NOBODY WILL CRACK. You're not conducting a thorough search, people are standing in the shadows and not even being accused of being an assassin for it. What kind of town are you? For the pride of our kingdom, for the pride of our people, for the kids, damnit, THE KIDS, we must unite, and root out these evil. Or our loyal king shall have died for nothing."

And like that, he's gone.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 19, 2006, 06:43:06 PM
Do it for the children!


Vote:Axeman, Billyman, Quigmaster, Afroboy, Steve Van Halen

These people have not contributed much to the game so far and it seems as Hippo wants us to put these under more pressure.

Note: I would include Moley in that list but its pointless as I already know about his innocence.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 19, 2006, 06:49:50 PM
hammer seems to be sayin hes innocent alot what if these are evil but just sayin there innocent hammer said that would be stupid to do but im starting to think these might be evil
vote hammer moley svh

plus hammer might have been the one who killed steve cos they were arguin alot the first day
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 19, 2006, 06:54:07 PM
but hammer aint stupid enough to bump steve of just because they were in a debate, it would make it to obvious

voteyorkshireblue i think you, being a member of the assasins are trying to make hammer the fall guy for one of your brothers murders
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 19, 2006, 07:08:50 PM
You know what Hammer.....that is what I have been saying from day one.....get the guys that have little say...may not be
the most fair way to do it...but if you aren't participating in the game....to me that is either laziness or evilness (is there such a
word) maybe I'm wrong....but I'm feeling that same feelings.....
We ACTUALLY AGREE ON SOMETHING!!!!

however a few folks have said that yorkshire blue is evil....gosh I don't know....I mean I think it is odd that Tommy died...but then again I can see the point on the game being slow....just not sure enough to have a vote for him.....I don't know.....I just don't know...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: billyman on October 19, 2006, 07:09:13 PM
you sticking up for hammer eh manic? mmmm! working together are you

vote:manicmonkeyman
vote:sir der mer hammer
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 19, 2006, 07:10:41 PM
Woops....I didn't mean to PASTE HAMMER's votes in my post...can that be deleted out?
I didn't mean to vote those folks....I have my votes on the top post...sorry..DUH
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 19, 2006, 07:14:36 PM
you sticking up for hammer eh manic? mmmm! working together are you

vote:manicmonkeyman
vote:sir der mer hammer


Its not really sticking up for me. Its just an accurate observation. I am not stupid enough to do something like that. Its looks like a poor mafia attempt to stick some blame on me.

Billyman, you have been hiding around the last couple of days faking that your internet wasn't working. A likely story. your a scouser, and having been here for over a month now I know whoyou people think. im watching you ::)

___________________ _______

and just unvote them Bluestars

Ask Mo1ey whether im in a group with Manic, look at his face and see that he cannot tell a lie.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 19, 2006, 07:17:09 PM
Hippo said that the king is dead? Currieman is the king!

Actually thats false, everyone knows that Eric Cantona is king
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 19, 2006, 07:23:02 PM
At the moment I think Dotleo is the most suspicious for reasons already explained. So for now he gets my vote

Vote Dotleo 
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 19, 2006, 07:23:17 PM
UNVOTE: Axeman, Billyman, Quigmaster, Afroboy, Steve Van Halen

Thanks Hammer.....


So sorry for the confusion.

___________________ ___________________ ______________-

Needs to be in bold really, but i've already edited the votes out of your original post anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 19, 2006, 07:28:27 PM
Doesnt matter, Hippo has waved his magical wand and deleted them from existence.

I sugest people keep voting for Dotleo and the other lurkers until we flush out a few. At least it will make the game better for us posters
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 19, 2006, 07:48:47 PM
Sorry I haven't posted today, I was just reading up then, I haven't really had much too say because I have voted for my person (svh) (to remind sir hammer who didnt put my vote on the vote count) and there is no point in useless posts also sir hammer this is a pointless and, what will be, a regretful vote.

I still suspect svh, i say he is behind this, he likes to put posts on which dont really say much apart from to wind people on but it's not just that, he also hasn't really accused anyone so not too get in much trouble.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 19, 2006, 09:20:00 PM
I haven't posted much today (even though I'm king) because there really hasn't been very much happening!
As Hippo pointed out, nobody has really accused anyone and nothing was really happening.
Atleast now some people have been voted for, this will hopefully flush them out.

I've gone back through the last few pages and had a look but it's really hard to pick anything guilty out of what has been said.

The only things that I've picked up on really have been Dotleo's random posts (about once per day) where he just votes for someone with no real reason or says something without really adding much to the game.
I'm keeping my on Yorkshire because I think he may have slipped through the net, so to speak, just because he was king yesterday.
SVH also posts in a way that I can't quite grasp yet.

Anyway, as your king I demand that everybody have lots of speculation and arguments about who they think is evil because this way people are more likely to slip up I reckon!

So argue and speculate away! (But make sure you've got some reasons ::))
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 19, 2006, 09:45:12 PM
Ok your wish is at your command (or wateva they say) :D. I suspect Dotleo, he is very suspicious and does say kill and vote a lot, i think thats to try and suspect others so people turn away from him.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 19, 2006, 09:53:24 PM
what's the latest vote count then ???


Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 19, 2006, 10:21:15 PM
can i have my vote for SVH counted please O0



___________________ _______

Sorry about that, it's now counted  :)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 19, 2006, 10:38:35 PM
can you add my vote to quigmaster as well 2 posts in last 12 pages & neither of them recently.
does anyone know if he has gone off on hols ??? (that's vacation to you bluestars :laugh:)

anyway I digress Vote Quigmaster

___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ _____________


Vote Count
dotLeo: yorkshireblue, sir hammer, fozza gump, laserblue (4)
Yorkshireblue: sir hammer, manic (2)
Bluestarsneyes: sir hammer, fozza gump (2)
Amadjin: bluestarsneyes (1)
Sir Hammer: bluestarsneyes, yorkshireblue, billyman (3)
Happy Axeman: bluestarsneyes, sir hammer (2)
Manic: fozza gump, billyman (2)
Steve Van Halen: manic, Sir Hammer, yorkshireblue, afroboy (4)
Billyman: Sir Hammer (1)
Quigmaster: Sir Hammer, laserblue (2)
afroboy: Sir Hammer (1)
mo1ey: yorkshireblue (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 19, 2006, 10:43:18 PM
Thanks for that hippo :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 19, 2006, 10:49:51 PM
Urghhh, I just ate a crumpet and it was :censored: cold!?

straight from the toaster and its cold. The butter didn't even melt......whats up with that?

Vote:Happy Axeman again as Hippo seems to have noticed my first one. Now you share my vote counting pain


___________________ ___________________ _____________

Sorry for this and in advance for any more that i've missed. I really shouldn't have made it multiple votes.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: dotLeo on October 20, 2006, 12:55:50 AM
I see I have been on the receiving end of a bandwagon - partly justified, in that I haven't posted much at all.  Partly due to the workload at the start of a new year at University, but not a good enough reason in itself.  I should try harder..

In response to Afroboys vote, that is classic mafia bandwagonning - his reason is fluffy and completely fabricated.  Vote Afroboy.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 20, 2006, 08:14:29 AM
Ok your wish is at your command (or wateva they say) :D. I suspect Dotleo, he is very suspicious and does say kill and vote a lot, i think thats to try and suspect others so people turn away from him.

For a start i haven't voted for you i just said you were suspicious, also fabricated!?!?!? a lot more people think the same as me as well so are you sayin all the reasons they've said are fabricated as well?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 20, 2006, 08:51:49 AM
Multiple votes is stupid

Vote Manic, Sir hammer, Yorkshire Blue and Afroboy just because they voted for me. They have no real reason to vote for me so I may as well go tit for tat
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Quig on October 20, 2006, 11:31:38 AM
Sorry about that. Didn't notice the day had started. I really don't see any reason on who the mafia killed last night. Seemed a tad random. I think Der hammer needs to take a deep breath and calm down. Chucking votes everywhere. Also has a faulty toaster. Dotleo seems the most dodgy but I don't think I'll vote yet. My holiday starts on Monday and im away for a week.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 20, 2006, 12:16:39 PM
Just making an appearance. I think that Sir Hammer should die. He is bumsucking to the King. And he looks evil. Really evil.
Your not making sense. Your trying to turn this unique game into a standad game of mafia as then the mafia get more of a say then at the moment. Our votesare meaningless, except that they can assist the King in making his decisions.
Wow. 4 new pages since I last looked. Thats a lot of reading. I think Hammer needs to stop enforcing his shitty rules and focus on getting the evils. Also, I aint seen the king in a while. I'm gonna keep my vote on Hammer.
I'm evil and want to kill you all. Mhahah
Thats enough for my vote :P

Jokes aside, i'm not so sure on Hammy anymore.
I think he is just being annoying now over being evil.
Steve Van Halen seems to be trying to get people killed for their nationally, which is racist.
Normally it seems that the people who joke around are mafia.
Sorry about that. Didn't notice the day had started. I really don't see any reason on who the mafia killed last night. Seemed a tad random. I think Der hammer needs to take a deep breath and calm down. Chucking votes everywhere. Also has a faulty toaster. Dotleo seems the most dodgy but I don't think I'll vote yet. My holiday starts on Monday and im away for a week.

This are your only posts so far in the game. Hardly a list of brilliant detective work is it. In fact 4 of the 5 posts mention me in some way. Seems you have a personal grudge against me. Maybe your Mafia partners have asked you to try and get me lynched?

oh and whats this?  (Ive bolded the key bits)
 
I'm evil and want to kill you all. Mhahah
Thats enough for my vote :P

Jokes aside,
i'm not so sure on Hammy anymore.
I think he is just being annoying now over being evil.
Steve Van Halen seems to be trying to get people killed for their nationally, which is racist.
Normally it seems that the people who joke around are mafia.

So your pretty much admitting your mafia.

If not, start playing the game instead of just coming on to pointlessly talk garbage


___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________

I won't be on until monday night, so if there's an execution ordered before then, again, no talking after it has been ordered (could one of the powers that be lock the thread in the event of an execution please?). Thanks. Enjoy yourselves  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 20, 2006, 07:05:31 PM
I still suspect svh, i say he is behind this, he likes to put posts on which dont really say much apart from to wind people on but it's not just that, he also hasn't really accused anyone so not too get in much trouble.

Here is a decent reason if you put until now on the end. And I voted for you way way back on something like page 9 (not so sure) so why didn't you vote for me back then ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 20, 2006, 07:07:50 PM
It seems Hippo wants conflict but maybe if the king contributed more and started threatening people then others in the game would start posting more and have to defemd themselves hopefully making a mistake.

Where are you King?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 20, 2006, 07:14:02 PM
It seems Hippo wants conflict but maybe if the king contributed more and started threatening people then others in the game would start posting more and have to defemd themselves hopefully making a mistake.

Where are you King?
Er, I posted on the last page and have been out since 8:45am so I haven't had a chance to get online until just now.

I told you what I want you to do and things are getting started. Hammer has already picked up on some stuff about the Quigmaster so if everyone keeps this up then we may finally see someone slip up. If not I will just have to go with who I think is the most suspicious
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 20, 2006, 09:29:39 PM
What I want is the king to help get people taliing I the game ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 20, 2006, 09:37:29 PM
Sorry I don't speak that language, what were you trying to say?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 20, 2006, 09:38:55 PM
To help get people talking by using his power and threaten players so we have something to talk about.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 20, 2006, 09:45:46 PM
Good idea but surely you cant lynch someone just for that ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 20, 2006, 10:41:21 PM
can someone vote for me i feel left out....lol
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 20, 2006, 10:50:16 PM
I would like to make you feel not left out but it seems your not very suspicious to me. Or maybe this is your sneaky plan. :idea:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 21, 2006, 01:44:20 AM
I personally wouldnt of Killed Tommys Hair doo, My vote for him was just a jokey vote, as your vote generally means nothing in this game.
I personally would of killed Steve Van Halen as to me, he appears to be the most dodgy. VOTE STEVE VAN HALEN

People seem to be swaying towards Dotleo, My gut instincts tell me he is not a threat.

Der Hammer seems sound enough, but this really could be a huge gamble on his and moleys part in the hope they can avoid investigations until its too late...

I'm going to VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE as I dont understand his reason's for lynching tommys Hairdoo. what exactly did he do wrong?

I'm going to VOTE BLUESTARS, on what her Boyfriend said with her acting dodgy...

VOTE FOZZA, cause he feels left out.
VOTE AMADJIN as the day wouldnt be complete without me voting for him.

and finally i'm gonna VOTE THE QUIGMASTER as Hammer seems to be onto something...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 21, 2006, 02:49:43 AM
hey im back after a few days,no-one noticed me gone,mad...

apart from shady posts from quig explained by his brother and some suspisciousness from just about everyone im gonna vote as follows

VOTE Quigmaster
VOTE Happy Axeman
VOTE SVH
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 21, 2006, 05:20:17 PM
Good idea but surely you cant lynch someone just for that ???

I want him to threaten people so they start adding more to the game.

Hammer makes some good points with Quig but would like to hear him explain himself.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 21, 2006, 10:19:50 PM
nothing really goin on,king you wanna make your decision?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 21, 2006, 10:34:03 PM
I would but it would just be a random one like Yorkshire's as I don't can't really tell who is guilty.

Bluestars, Quig and Dotleo are at the top of the list though
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: dotLeo on October 21, 2006, 11:22:29 PM
People seem to be swaying towards Dotleo, My gut instincts tell me he is not a threat.

Your gut instinct is indeed correct, this time at least!

Why all the votes though?  With so many votes flying around they become less useful for putting pressure on people. 

Hammer did bring up a good argument against quig, and that is the only substantiated argument I feel is worthy of a vote, unless Quig can defend himself.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 21, 2006, 11:34:20 PM
I would but it would just be a random one like Yorkshire's as I don't can't really tell who is guilty.

Bluestars, Quig and Dotleo are at the top of the list though

One of those three would be a good choice I think although Im not so sure that Quig is actually Mafia. He is just an appallingly bad player even when pro-town. I think you should go with Bluestar or Dotleo for today. People are slowly getting more active which is bad for the mafia.

Steve Van Halen has picked up alot of votes but I think that is just for poor play. Im not really detecting any scumness from him.

This is a bit odd as Dotleo seems just to panic and go after someone on his bandwagon even though Afro hadnt voted for him. Bit too defensive methinks. Perhaps the lady doth protest too much!

I see I have been on the receiving end of a bandwagon - partly justified, in that I haven't posted much at all.  Partly due to the workload at the start of a new year at University, but not a good enough reason in itself.  I should try harder..

In response to Afroboys vote, that is classic mafia bandwagonning - his reason is fluffy and completely fabricated.  Vote Afroboy.
For a start i haven't voted for you i just said you were suspicious, also fabricated!?!?!? a lot more people think the same as me as well so are you sayin all the reasons they've said are fabricated as well?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: dotLeo on October 22, 2006, 02:10:04 AM
lol! Only natural to defend myself, although I didn't notice that it wasn't an actual vote mind you, from him.  I stand by what I said, he had nothing to back up what he said - can you say mafia bandwagon?

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 22, 2006, 03:46:03 AM
or what he said could be random suspicion throwing to test the water,and now you defending so rigourously has thrown suspicion on you,as youve now played into his hands,works both ways squire
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 22, 2006, 09:39:43 AM
or what he said could be random suspicion throwing to test the water,and now you defending so rigourously has thrown suspicion on you,as youve now played into his hands,works both ways squire

This is were I was coming from, the king said we should accuse and see if anyone slips up so thats what I was doing.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 22, 2006, 11:42:04 AM
but where has Dotleo slipped up? he is only defending himself... and who is jumping on someone cause they think they have got someone to bandwaggon? yes, its the usual one liners from Amadjin.

I was thinking he surely cant be evil yet again can he? well i think the past few posts have convinced me he is Evil again as its the same tactics he is using, find someone to bandwaggon and chip at them with someone who is not so sure.

I am positive he is not the enemy and the king lynching Dotleo would be killing yet another Innocent and the townies will be struggling big time.

I would but it would just be a random one like Yorkshire's as I don't can't really tell who is guilty.

Bluestars, Quig and Dotleo are at the top of the list though
who's to say Yorkshire Blues lynch was random, who's to say he is not an assassin who wanted a townie dead and hide behind the fact that it was an unlucky choice. SVH was by far the most suspicious char on the last day but he chose mr Hairdo who did nothing but try to pick the game up and add input.

Amadjin, Bluestars, Quig, SVH and Yorkshire are my major suspects thus far.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 22, 2006, 12:17:38 PM
From reading everyones posts the multiple votes thing really has thrown this game up in the air. No one makes calculated reasons for voting for anyone anymore, you just vote for all those you find to be suspiscous. This game is descending into a farce.

If we had one vote you could justify why you are voting even its just to get the game going. At the moment its just vote for those you dont like, those you find to be suspiscous and who everyone else is voting for.


Its balls

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 22, 2006, 12:27:44 PM
but in general your votes dont mean a thing as its the King who decides who to lynch, so what exactly are you whinging at?
rather than whinging why not try playing the game as you have yet again offered nothing to stop people being suspicious of you.  ::)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 22, 2006, 12:39:56 PM
exactly, we have to use the tools that we have and in this game we have unlimited votes.

I think the main reason for the votes on Dotleo isn't his defence, its the reason he got those votes in the first place. Shoddy hiding and trying to get a quick lynch in most of his posts. He is a clever, scurryish individual and I have a gut feeling he is mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 22, 2006, 12:50:41 PM
so if your applying those rules to Dotleo, you must also apply them equally to the other people that want a quick lynch.  ;)

for a start, isnt Amadjin also trying to get a quick lynch?
nothing really goin on,king you wanna make your decision?
Amadjin is also a cunning little shit, so you also need to weary of him. For the record, I dont think i have ever been wrong about Amadjin being evil. perhaps this could be the first, perhaps not.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 22, 2006, 12:55:38 PM
why don't we kill off yorkshire for his dodgy actions? even if he is good, then it will be adequate warning to future kings..

Well I think this is the main post.

If he was Town then surely he would see that executing a townie even just to teach a lesson would be costly. It sounds like he knows Yorkshire is innocent and is trying to push through a lynch while covering himself.

Amadjin hasn't really done anything although I would have to have a proper look at all his posts but I haven't the time now. That last one you quoted is what alot of people have been saying and last time it put pressure on Yorkshire to end the day early and kill an innocent which we dont need again. Last night there was 1 death so it looks like we don't have a vigilante which means we have to get these lynchs right and make me King tomorrow and I will guarantee a mafia execution!!!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: dotLeo on October 22, 2006, 01:11:14 PM
I think the main reason for the votes on Dotleo isn't his defence, its the reason he got those votes in the first place. Shoddy hiding and trying to get a quick lynch in most of his posts. He is a clever, scurryish individual and I have a gut feeling he is mafia.

Shoddy hiding, was actually down to first week of lectures at uni and having to attend every single course so I can choose which ones I want to take, meant I had few free hours.  Was just trying to contribute when I did post.  lmao @ scurryish though, good one :)  Everyone likes to think their gut feelings are right, and I hope you have a chance to change yours before you are proven wrong.  I am but a simpleton with the ability to become a kingmaker.

Well I think this is the main post.

If he was Town then surely he would see that executing a townie even just to teach a lesson would be costly. It sounds like he knows Yorkshire is innocent and is trying to push through a lynch while covering himself.

There's no love lost between me and yorkshire - I think he did a shoddy job yesterday, and that was a pre-emptive jab.  As expected, he voted for me..

but where has Dotleo slipped up? he is only defending himself... and who is jumping on someone cause they think they have got someone to bandwaggon? yes, its the usual one liners from Amadjin.

I am positive he is not the enemy and the king lynching Dotleo would be killing yet another Innocent and the townies will be struggling big time.
who's to say Yorkshire Blues lynch was random, who's to say he is not an assassin who wanted a townie dead and hide behind the fact that it was an unlucky choice. SVH was by far the most suspicious char on the last day but he chose mr Hairdo who did nothing but try to pick the game up and add input.

Hit the nail on the head there Axeman.  Incredible.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 22, 2006, 01:12:00 PM
@hammer
so your not putting Amadjin under suspicion for asking Currie to do a quick lynch, but your wanting to lynch dotleo for the same thing. that doesnt seem fair to me Hammer.  ???

your also assuming that YorkshireBlue is innocent because he was the king, there is no gaurentee he isnt an assassin is there?
whats not to say Dotleo investigated Yorkshire on pre-night and saw he was evil? so tried to submit a message to say so without revealing his role.  ???

when you help kill another innocent dont say i didnt warn you...  :D

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 22, 2006, 03:16:19 PM
when you help kill another innocent dont say i didnt warn you...  :D

likewise matey,likewise

My post last night for a lynch was largely due to there being not many posts during yesterday and i contributed a good proportion of them,and i might have been cunning in recent games,but im hiding nothing this time out,im merely a king in the making

but where has Dotleo slipped up? he is only defending himself... and who is jumping on someone cause they think they have got someone to bandwaggon? yes, its the usual one liners from Amadjin..

im not jumping at anyone mr idontlikeamadjin,i merely pointed out that dotleos comments can be looked at from both angles,yet because of this i have raised more suspicion in your eyes axy? seriously wheres your detective brain gone?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 22, 2006, 04:26:29 PM
@hammer
so your not putting Amadjin under suspicion for asking Currie to do a quick lynch, but your wanting to lynch dotleo for the same thing. that doesnt seem fair to me Hammer.  ???

The difference is Amadjin isnt naming a target, just a general feeling of lets end this day which seems to effect many people.
Also where have I assumed Yorkshire is innocent? I was just putting forward a theory on Leo.

In fact the whole point of my guidlines was to make it easier to spot an assassin king and not let them get away with executing an innocent, but people bleated about Hippo crying and playing the game as it is, even though Hippo said clearly it was well within the rules.

Note that I have not actually said I have any major evidence on Leo, just speculation, gut feelings (and mine are normally right ;) 8)) and a tenous theory.

Also I know I have claimed already but there is no need for others to claim as its just narrowing down people that could be cops, docs or even Heros.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 22, 2006, 05:48:26 PM
think of motives. who would want Steven Ryals dead, as we all know he can be pretty good with his investigations..
1) his Girlfriend, Bluestars cause she felt threatend by his claiming of her dodgyness
2) SVH because of his tiff etc
3) someone trying to frame one of the above.

Once a group of people get a name in their heads, its virtually impossible to remove it from their brains and they become blind to the overall picture.

there are a lot more people in this game than just Dotleo...
I'll also give you my gutfeelings so far in terms of chance of being assasin...

Afroboy - not quite sure about this newby thus far. 50%
Amadjin - I just dont trust the way he plays it. 75%
Billyman - usually giving far more input than this. 75% VOTE BILLYMAN
Bluestarsneyes - another new player, but shes gone into her shell since Mr Ryals has died.. 75%
ChurchofHalo - his usual pop on post virtually nothing then go again routine. 50%
Currieman - Day 2 KING - same with Currie, he is usually far more involved than this... 60%
Dotleo - My spider senses are really strong on this one, 40%
Fozza - he's usually dead by now. lol 50%
Happy Axeman - 0% i'm deffo not the assassin.
Laserblue - 50%
Manic - 50%
Mo1ey UK - Mason ?
Sir Hammer - Mason ?
Stevenryals - killed Night 1.
Steve Van Halen - I just dont like his contribution thus far, he seems the most viable lynch. 80%
The Quigmaster - he plays the same shit every game. 50% lol
Tommy Catons Hairstylist - lynched by Yorkshire Blue.
Yorkshireblue - Day1 KING - why Tommys Hairdo? 75%

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 22, 2006, 06:51:45 PM
Oh well if its lists were doing....

Purple = Confirmed innocent in my eyes
Blue=No Threat pereceived so far
Yellow= Possible Threat
Red=Likely Mafia


Afroboy - New player, not done much out of line
Amadjin - Veteran, active, bit eager for lynchs though
Billyman - Veteran, not as active as normal
Bluestarsneyes - Newb, motive for killing Steven and firm opposer to the anti-assassin rules.
ChurchofHalo - Veteran, not known for liking the early days :D
Currieman - Veteran, not as active as normal, playing it cool as King at the moment.
Dotleo - Semi-Newb/Veteran, scurryish, gut feeling, rush lynch attempt on Yorkshire
Fozza - Vet, always seems likely mafia like
Happy Axeman - Veteran, unactive at start due to comp errors, back to usual standard of helping out. good guy
Laserblue - Newb, unknown, not let slip so far
Manic - vet, not said much, unknown
Mo1ey UK
Sir Hammer - Mason Partners. Make one of us King for tomorrow.
Stevenryals - killed by assassins, suspected Bluestars, SVH and opposed to the rules
Steve Van Halen - reaction to his votes makes me think he is innocent
The Quigmaster - personal grudge making him look scummy, caught out with joke remarks
Tommy Catons Hairstylist - executed hastily
Yorkshireblue - poor execution of tommy possibly due to eagerness to end the day to conferr with evil friends?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 22, 2006, 07:05:29 PM
Its a shame you cant edit that because I cannot read in yellow. Bad choice mofo
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 22, 2006, 07:27:57 PM
Try highlighting it Steve
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: dotLeo on October 22, 2006, 09:07:14 PM
Indeed.  Any thoughts on the day Currieman? 
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 22, 2006, 09:11:17 PM
I don't want to rush into a decision like Yorkshire did but at the moment there really isn't much to go on.
Nobody has slipped up bar Quig's joke/non joke which I can't really tell.

At the moment the people that are on my suspiscions list are:
Dotleo
Yorkshire
Quig
Steve Van Halen
Bluestarsneyes
Billyman

But I am finding it hard to narrow it down so the day goes on
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 22, 2006, 09:15:10 PM
Just vote for them all, everyone else does  :o
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: dotLeo on October 22, 2006, 09:54:32 PM
keep up SVH! He is the king and therefore the executioner :P
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 22, 2006, 09:58:55 PM
oh yeah!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 22, 2006, 10:40:55 PM
Its a shame you cant edit that because I cannot read in yellow. Bad choice mofo

Not if you use the "Dark Theme" ;)

Not keen on the lists of what peoiple think of each other, the more you share the more information people can gain and then they can change how they act to avoid suspision.

I find it odd that Steven Van Halen was accused by Happy but instead of trying to defend himself or even acknowledge it he just ignores it.

Odd  No ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 22, 2006, 11:14:18 PM
Not if you use the "Dark Theme" ;)

Not keen on the lists of what peoiple think of each other, the more you share the more information people can gain and then they can change how they act to avoid suspision.

I find it odd that Steven Van Halen was accused by Happy but instead of trying to defend himself or even acknowledge it he just ignores it.

Odd  No ???


No, I tend to notice that it is mafia that really strive to defend themselves when the evidence is poor. A townie has no need to vigourously defend himself because they know its wrong.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 22, 2006, 11:43:57 PM
Sorry I haven't been around...it's weekend here and well...I sort of have a life...hehehe!!!

I don't understand how getting my boyfriend out of the game is a motivation....if nothing else
it makes it entirely BORING or me!!!
It would be more fun to have him here with me...now he just has to listen to me and my
ramblings....

I just don't see how you guys can't see that Steven was supicious of me...BECAUSE I was
his girlfriend...come on...that's not fair!

Secondly I am not ANTI Assasins....I was just anti Hammer's rules and I just said in my last
post I'm not even going to go there anymore...I just don't even care...I'm just sick of hearing
about them...it never dies!

The only thing that is going to remain in this game is the debate over these guidelines..I guess.

I haven't had time to catch-up on all of the posts...but the only change I'm going to make is this
UNVOTE SIR HAMMER...reason...b ecause there hasn't been a counter claim on his mason...stuff...

I just am going to go out on a limb and unvote him because he is at least posting in the game
and is the only person to be doing anything to make this a game...and at this point...I just
hate having to read these pointless posts that some are putting up just to say...oh yeah I posted
it was nothing in it really...but keeps them out of suspicion for time being.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 22, 2006, 11:44:23 PM
poop...forgot to make that bold...sorry...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 23, 2006, 02:24:07 AM
Secondly I am not ANTI Assasins....

are you turnin yourself in? if anything this the biggest slip up iv seen....Vote: bluestarsneyes
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 23, 2006, 02:32:45 AM
are you turnin yourself in? if anything this the biggest slip up iv seen....Vote: bluestarsneyes

Kerching!

Where is Sigmund Freud when you need him because we have a slip up in aisle 5?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 23, 2006, 03:47:38 AM
nah man keep him out of it,he can keep his anal n oral theories to himself thankyou very much
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 23, 2006, 04:20:21 AM
That's what I've been waiting for.

Still I'd like to hear Bluestars defend herself just to see if I think she's lying or not
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 23, 2006, 02:58:14 PM
HAHAHA!!!
Oh GOD!
I'm just an idiot...didn't mean that...whatever I'm just not making any sense....

I am not mafia.

I don't think I can say anything at this point to convince anyone of my innoncence.
Just please go back and read all of my posts before you kill me off.....

I DEFENDED Steven and Tommy on many occasions. I was posting with them
most of the time. I never said that I was against the town....I just believe
that the King should have the power....that was the point of the game.
I also thought and still think that Hammer's motivations for the guidelines was
somehow a trap. I have ideas on it...but nothing to go on but a gut feelings.
However these are offical game rules so saying I am against the town by
not wanting to follow them is unfair.

But....so goes.....I think I am just an easy target because none of the real mafia
post enough and they are content to let us town folk kill each other off.

You guys get on someone's case of not defending themselves and then
on their case if they do. I don't know how else to defend myself except to say
that I am not mafia....and just because I'm new voting for me is lame.
Not a very nice way to welcome a new member. And how is it that no
one questions Hammer's Claim to be mason...and yet I come right out and
say I am not mafia...and everyone assumes I am lying.

I have not made any attempt to change the game....alter it for my own
advantage. I feel that I have simply gone back and read these posts and
tried to come up with some valid reasons for the voting I have done.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 23, 2006, 11:08:30 PM
Sorry for not posting for a bit, I do think that having as many votes as you want is a bit silly and you should only be aloud 2 votes BUT these are the rules of the games so now they are there i dont think we shoould change them. This is where we need a good lynch, it would give us a better look at things if we did get one now.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 24, 2006, 12:29:24 AM
This is a classic post from an assassin with nowhere left to run.

First of all the self-deprication, knowledging that she has made a mistake and is trying to play it off by saying shes not an idiot when already in this game she has said a few times shes not ignorant ;)

HAHAHA!!!
Oh GOD!
I'm just an idiot...didn't mean that...whatever I'm just not making any sense....

I am not mafia.

I don't think I can say anything at this point to convince anyone of my innocence.

Obviously you think you can because you then go onto a longer post trying to convince us of your innocence.


Just please go back and read all of my posts before you kill me off.....

I DEFENDED Steven and Tommy on many occasions. I was posting with them
most of the time. I never said that I was against the town....I just believe
that the King should have the power....that was the point of the game.
I also thought and still think that Hammer's motivations for the guidelines was
somehow a trap. I have ideas on it...but nothing to go on but a gut feelings.
However these are offical game rules so saying I am against the town by
not wanting to follow them is unfair.

And again I will say that my guidelines in no way effect the official game rules. I've pointed this out really now about 50 times and even Hippo has cleared it up.
Remember that the Mafia know for certain who is innocent and who is guilty which is why sometimes Mafia cling onto a Townie and stauchly defend them so that they can claim innocence by association later on. You did defend Steven and Tommy when you had no real right to. It was Day One and no one had any real idea of anything.


But....so goes.....I think I am just an easy target because none of the real mafia
post enough and they are content to let us town folk kill each other off.

You guys get on someone's case of not defending themselves and then
on their case if they do. I don't know how else to defend myself except to say
that I am not mafia....and just because I'm new voting for me is lame.
Not a very nice way to welcome a new member. And how is it that no
one questions Hammer's Claim to be mason...and yet I come right out and
say I am not mafia...and everyone assumes I am lying.

I have not made any attempt to change the game....alter it for my own
advantage. I feel that I have simply gone back and read these posts and
tried to come up with some valid reasons for the voting I have done.


and heres the "blame the non posters" card coming into play. Everyone is actually getting pretty active as of late so im not sure this can be used.
We are not here to welcome you, this is just a game and no one is being cruel or nasty. I play the game because I enjoy it, not for a social gathering (thats whats the clubs are for :D).
People have questioned my mason claim which only a few posts ago you said you probably believed because of no counterclaim and actually unvoted me, so to bring back that suspision seems a bit desperate. I have claimed mason, been backed up by my partner and no one has counterclaimed which pretty much clears me.

The main valid reasons for lynching you I think is that,

You have been opposed to guidelines that may help the town catch assassins
Steven suspected you, then died. Who else would have the movitation to kill Steven?

Then there is this bit of fried gold....


Quote from: Assassin Bluestarsneyes
Secondly I am not ANTI Assasins

If your not Anti-Assassins then that means your Pro-Assassins!

Quote from: Freudian Slip
A verbal mistake that is thought to reveal an unconscious belief, thought, or emotion.

People might post or read this thinking that it was just an error, but I think there might be a bit more to it. Has anyone else posted something like this? I reckon I am bang on here and can smell the fear (or is that just that slightly moulding ryvita in the corner?) and the guilt in her words.

King, I rest my case...........

What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 24, 2006, 12:42:42 AM
It reminds me a bit of the last game where I caught on about Fozza.
There is a lot of conviction behind this and the freudian slip was a major slip up.

I'm still not sure though. I'll sleep on it and see what I think in the morning
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 24, 2006, 01:05:34 AM
Good Claim hammer, it does make clear sense, top of my suspision list are SVH and bluestars at the moment.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 24, 2006, 02:00:10 AM
Claim what you want Hammer...but you are about to get me killed off...and you have
only one reason for taking me out...opposing you in anyway.
Just like Tommy and Just like Steven...the only satisfaction that I will get if you
take me out is that when you all find out my position....that MAYBE you guys
will take a better look at WHO it is that is voting for all of the innoncents.

One person will have taken out THREE...and it was a slip up....I have no way
to defend it but to simply say it was a typo and I know you can't delete.
Heck I mess up on all my post because I just obviously can't type.

I am not a savy player and confused everyone because this is my first game.
It isn't a ploy saying that...it's the truth.

I can't defend myself at this point because what else can I say....I just
mistyped. I was just so frustrated that Hammer is always on my case
and he is completely wrong and his total motivation against me is
that I opposed his guidelines.

I messed up....and anything I say at this point is just twisted.

Sure is odd that not a soul will take up for me....you would think if I was
so MAFIA that someone would say something...but I guess you guys
can't see that either now can you!

King I hope you get some real evidence..but like I said if I go out...
you all better remember who was so against me...because there is
one person that has been after me and all I hope is that he gets
his if I'm gone....

So go ahead Hammer twist my words....either way....if I go out...
I go out laughing that a typo took me out of my first game.... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 24, 2006, 10:09:42 AM
I'm actually starting to believe Bluestars that she's innocent. If she were guilty I think she would've defended herself a lot more than because this is her first game so she wouldn't be the same as Fozza was in the last game where he was just defending himself beyond belief.

I know we shouldn't look back to earlier games but that lynch of Fozza is now a really good way for me to figure out who is evil and I seriously don't think that Bluestars is evil.

Also, I woke up this morning and suddenly started to think about what Axeman (I think) has said.
How do we know that Yorkshire isn't evil. Just because he was king on the first day doesn't mean he's not evil. He executed Tommy at a moment's notice and hasn't posted much in day 2 (guilty conscience because he's evil?).

So right now I think that I'll still keep looking at Bluestars but I'm now 75% sure she isn't evil.
Yorkshire, Quig, Billyman and Dotleo still top my list
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: hippo on October 24, 2006, 12:29:06 PM
Seems to be a bit of rebellion towards the multiple votes system operating in this game. It's in place so that the people who the most people find suspicious are at the top of the list. Under the standard one vote system, somebody who a lot of people suspect of being scum may actually have a very small amount of votes, because someone else looks even more guilty. In this system, both names would be there for the king to see.

If you do not wish for people to multiple vote, then explain your reasons to the rest of the players in why you think a one vote system would be more effective, and get them to use it. The rules themselves won't change, but the rules in place don't stop you having a system between you for coming up with a name for execution.



Vote Count
dotLeo: yorkshireblue, sir hammer, fozza gump, laserblue (4)
Yorkshireblue: sir hammer, manic, steve van halen, Happy Axeman (4)
Bluestarsneyes: sir hammer, fozza gump, Happy Axeman, amadjin (4)
Amadjin: bluestarsneyes, Happy Axeman (2)
Sir Hammer: yorkshireblue, billyman, steve van halen (3)
Happy Axeman: bluestarsneyes, sir hammer, amadjin (3)
Manic: fozza gump, billyman, steve van halen (3)
Steve Van Halen: manic, Sir Hammer, yorkshireblue, afroboy, Happy Axeman, amadjin (6)
Billyman: Sir Hammer, Happy Axeman (2)
Quigmaster: Sir Hammer, laserblue, Happy Axeman, amadjin (4)
afroboy: steve van halen (1)
mo1ey: yorkshireblue (1)
fozza: Happy Axeman (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 24, 2006, 01:06:12 PM
I'm actually starting to believe Bluestars that she's innocent. If she were guilty I think she would've defended herself a lot more than because this is her first game so she wouldn't be the same as Fozza was in the last game where he was just defending himself beyond belief.

I know we shouldn't look back to earlier games but that lynch of Fozza is now a really good way for me to figure out who is evil and I seriously don't think that Bluestars is evil.

Also, I woke up this morning and suddenly started to think about what Axeman (I think) has said.
How do we know that Yorkshire isn't evil. Just because he was king on the first day doesn't mean he's not evil. He executed Tommy at a moment's notice and hasn't posted much in day 2 (guilty conscience because he's evil?).

So right now I think that I'll still keep looking at Bluestars but I'm now 75% sure she isn't evil.
Yorkshire, Quig, Billyman and Dotleo still top my list

She has defended herself in two massive posts designed to look that its all going against her and its my fault. Im not the one that made her type those seemingly dodgy posts.

Again that last post stinks of Mafia again. Mafia caught and desperate. Before Amadjin pointed the slip up she was backtracking and trying to get my support by unvoting me and saying she believed my claim, now all of a sudden I am solely responsible for two deaths. Seems strange that someone who is truely town would be satisfied by dying just to prove their innocence. She says that if she was mafia that people would stick up for her, but only Currieman has stuck up for her so far and would mafia really come out of hiding to help out someone going down? Then plenty of self-depreciation again and accusations of word twistings seal it.

As for the others on your list King, Yorkshire obviously could be evil which I mentioned yesterday but no one listened when I tryed to set up the guidelines and no one is listening now. He lynched Tommy quickly, but thats it. He generally doesnt post much anyway so it tells us nothing. More interesting I think is Dotleos rush attempt to get him lynched "even if hes good" I think was the words used. He has slipped away since the Blluestars thing, but he would be in the top two.
Quig and Billyman are there too, Quig being a shit player but im not sure why you are going after Billyman. Doesn't seem to have done anything off so far has he?

Out of those you've mentioned I would prefer them in this order: Bluestars, Dotleo, Quig, Yorkshire. Billyman


(oh and another contradiction in her last post. She says she will be laughing, but why all the crying smilies?  :D :D :D)



Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 24, 2006, 01:13:12 PM
I have read back again and I can see what you mean about Bluestars defending herself but it doesn't stink of an evil stench. She doesn't say anything like "Oh well if you kill me, you'll see that I'm innocent".
Instead she just says "If you kill me then it's because of a typo. She's not blatantly defending herself like Fozza did.

Yorkshire doesn't really post much as you say and that is another reason that I think he may be mafia. He executed Tommy and now he's not posting. Why is this? Maybe because he knows that if he tries to defend himself then he will look guilty.

Dotleo is suspicious and could well be evil but I'm not sure yet.
Same with Quig because he does look suspicious from his posts but he hasn't posted much recently.

The reason I think Billyman may be evil is because he hasn't posted much and when he has it's only been to vote.

Basically what I'm trying to say is: WHY IS NOBODY POSTING!? >:(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 24, 2006, 02:15:34 PM
Hi

Sorry havn't been posting for a couple of days but I made my votes & gave my reasons & I don't really know what else to say ???

Hey hammer....... In those guidlines how many people did you say need to vote for someone before the king should take notice? & do you think there are enough people posting to get that?

Come on people the king needs some help :gypsy:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: billyman on October 24, 2006, 02:32:31 PM
hi all, soz i havent posted much of late, but with not being able to post in the first few days i geuss i just got a bit behind with it all, will make more of an effort ;)

going over what has been posted, i must say it seems extremely difficult to pick out anybody in particular so will hold back on any vote for the minute, also still dont really understand what is happening in this game, do we have to pursuade the king to lynch somebody?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 24, 2006, 02:59:43 PM
i no i havent posted for a while but others havent i didnt no really what to say but i think bluestars is evil and theat was a bad mistake. i just have a feelin though that hammer could be evil even though hes posted alot saying hes not and hes not cos it would be stupid to do.

thinking about it though how is it stupid and where is moley is innocent partner he aint posted for awhile. hows it a stupid thing to do though saying your good they could both be evil or thats what i think but others probably dont think the same and why was connstantly trying to change the rules and it was weird how the person he was arguin the with is now dead

vote bluestarsandeyes, hammer
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 24, 2006, 03:10:39 PM
i know hes allegedly a mason but he could at least post

Vote: Moley

youve got an interesting point yorkshire,here comes the but,yes bluestars looks evil,slippin up the way she did,but the king is right,her defending herself the way she did seems too innocent,so i think your wrong,

and im handin you a vote for killin an innocent

Unvote Bluestarsneyes,Vote Yorkshire Blue



Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 24, 2006, 03:21:13 PM
and it was weird how the person he was arguin the with is now dead

Do you think he would do something that obvious?

Also if he where making it up about being a mason surley the real masons would have outed them as evil by now.

Yorkshire & Amadjin are begining to look suspicious to me.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 24, 2006, 03:46:06 PM
Sorry........... read the posts again & I may be wrong about amadjin  ??? I still think yorkshire is looking suspicious though.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 24, 2006, 04:23:18 PM
i was about to say,what exactly have i done? lol

hammer said at least a third of us voting on said person before the king should take notice,and if we hit two thirds then he should lynch them,and if we go by the guidelines most people are on about 10-20% of suspicion,is churchy playing if so,aint heard much from him lately...perhaps by chance or an act of lurkin

vote churchy
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 24, 2006, 05:58:15 PM
I think I posted a page or so ago, hard to keep track the way the "days" go in this game.

If you are talking about people lurking there are people who have said less than me.

I think Bluestars made a big mistake in saying what she did but i don't think she is an evil role but nothing is certain.

Hammer made some good points against her but as everyone knows there is more than one way to take peoples action or interpret thier actions and anyonce can talk themselves out of situation if they have the gift of the gab.

So to conclude I'm not actually sure to soon to make any definate conclusions and the only way to be sure is to lynch the person but could be a costly mistake.


Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 24, 2006, 06:05:34 PM
There's alot of votes flying about lately, there just seems to be a big row over bluestars, apart from what she said about anti-assasin she hasn't actuallly done much wrong, she is posting quite regularly.

What about quig, I hadn't noticed until now how suspicious he is, he douesn't like to say who to vote for and he hasnt voted, also he likes to lurk and post on ly when desperatly needed

vote quigmaster
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 24, 2006, 06:09:00 PM
Yeah, the jist of it was that there would always be a list. The King can only execute people on that list. Once you got over half the people in the game voting for you (in this case 9) then you would automatically go on the list. Not enough people are voting really to make this work. Also if you had some proper evidence against you like someone claiming to be a cop saying he got a Guilty verdict on you you go straight onto the list and finally the King can upgrade anyone to the list if they think that person is Guilty as long as they explain there reasons. This gives us power on whos on the list and still gives the King power to choose who he kills.


i no i havent posted for a while but others havent i didnt no really what to say but i think bluestars is evil and theat was a bad mistake. i just have a feelin though that hammer could be evil even though hes posted alot saying hes not and hes not cos it would be stupid to do.

thinking about it though how is it stupid and where is moley is innocent partner he aint posted for awhile. hows it a stupid thing to do though saying your good they could both be evil or thats what i think but others probably dont think the same and why was connstantly trying to change the rules and it was weird how the person he was arguin the with is now dead

vote bluestarsandeyes, hammer

The thing is there is only one group of bad guys so for me, Bluestars and Moley all to be evil we would have to be on the same team. I have been asking for Bluestars to be lynched so that seems unlikely, doesn't it?

This game needs more imput from some people, its getting boring for those actually playing arguing with the same people all the time.



and as for Bluestars defence.... think what you would say if someone was accusing you of mafia and would it look like her last posts?

There are plenty of reasons to lynch her. More so than anyone else I say.

-------

Quig is in Portugal down South America way for the rest of the week. He said he was away in a previous post.

oh and here is that defence you were after Bluestars

There's alot of votes flying about lately, there just seems to be a big row over bluestars, apart from what she said about anti-assasin she hasn't actuallly done much wrong, she is posting quite regularly.

compared to this initally

Good Claim hammer, it does make clear sense, top of my suspision list are SVH and bluestars at the moment.

going from "top of my suspicion list" to "hasn't actually done much wrong" is quite alot isn't it?

Vote:Afroboy
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: stevenryals on October 24, 2006, 06:18:56 PM
Hammer, I know I'm dead, but I was just wondering if you knew where Portugal REALLY was?  honestly...  South America???
Quote from: Sir Hammer the Geography Wizard
Portugal down South America
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 24, 2006, 07:09:29 PM
I was thinking the sale but steve got there before me :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 24, 2006, 07:16:14 PM
Hammer, I know I'm dead, but I was just wondering if you knew where Portugal REALLY was?  honestly...  South America???

That clears up how they knocked us out the last European Championship then.


I was quoting a brilliant American TV show called Arrested Development.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 24, 2006, 07:18:31 PM
Good pick up on Afroboy there Hammer. Always a sign if people do that.
Afroboy goes on the list as well.

So the list now includes these people for me:

Bluestars
Dotleo
Yorkshire
Quig
Billy
Afroboy

Also, where is everybody!? Axeman and Manic haven't posted in ages, nor has Fozza with anything meaningful. Mo1ey has only posted twice that I can remember in the whole game! And Quig is off to Portugal.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 24, 2006, 07:40:44 PM
I bought a 360 yesterday so Ive been messing about with that. Also Ive been busy all weekend especially since one of my players got sent off on Sunday and Ive been trying to get his suspension reduced  :(

http://grinsparkrangersfc.moonfruit.com (http://grinsparkrangersfc.moonfruit.com)

Ive been so busy that I havent posted about bluestareyes dodgy slip the other day. And she is suspiscous of me?

Have I already voted for her? if I havent vote bluestareyes just to make sure




SLAYER!!!!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 24, 2006, 08:12:47 PM
Interesting SVH...I don't remember recently saying anything about being suspicious of you....
I mean I always have been since the beginning and I thought you were a bit of pill
with the joking...but don't remember voting for you right out....hmmm.....

Hammer the reason I unvoted you was because I was wanting to show you that
I have no reason to see you killed of if you are truly innoncent...however you just
keep after me and you just seem off to me...not sure if it is because you are just so
in to the game...that you read into everything I say because you are eager to play
or you are evil to kill good folks off...so sorry if I go back and forth a bit...you
are just a bit aggressive for me.

I don't have much to say anymore about me...I've said all I can say...so whatever at this point...

but I figure I'll still give my opinion as long as I can.
My prior votes were for Amajin and Axeman and Hammer for their votes for Steven and Tommy.
I'm not really sure who to vote for at this point...but I am inclined to simply get rid
of the folks that hardly post...and yeah where has Moley the other mason been?
I can't believe I didn't realize he has probably posted the least in this game.
That is odd...Hammer doing all the mason work? eh?

I think I saw Quig on the board and DotLeo...but I'll have to go back and look those were at the
top of my list just because they hardly post.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 24, 2006, 08:34:14 PM
Sorry,  I didn't know that Quig was away, unvote quigmaster

As for saying about bluestars, i said it was a good claim but since then i have re-read some of the posts and changed my mind on it, is that not allowed by your rules hammer?

Also please take me off the list king, i can't just be on there for not knowing that quig was away and changing my mind on bluestars.... can i ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 24, 2006, 08:47:53 PM

As for saying about bluestars, i said it was a good claim but since then i have re-read some of the posts and changed my mind on it, is that not allowed by your rules hammer?

What rules? I have no rules against Mafia acting silly and contradicting themselves.

Lynching Bluestars will now reveal alot about others roles. If she if an assassin then I suspect Afroboy to be as well.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 24, 2006, 08:59:17 PM
I don't really see where your coming from there. there 19 other pages where i haven't been on her side in the slightest and now because i change my mind on one thing you thiink im mafia!?!?! Oh yeah you usually have rules on everything. Lynching me would not solve anything, try looking somewhere else, besides i'm not the only one who has said what i've said, also are you goin to pick on all the other people who still vote for quig who know he is away??
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 24, 2006, 09:50:04 PM
afro did you not see hammers evidence against quig?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 24, 2006, 09:54:44 PM
What evidence  ??? (just cheking i have the right evidence ::) ;))
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: hippo on October 24, 2006, 10:11:45 PM
Vote Count
dotLeo: yorkshireblue, sir hammer, fozza gump, laserblue (4)
Yorkshireblue: sir hammer, manic, steve van halen, Happy Axeman, amadjin (5)
Bluestarsneyes: sir hammer, fozza gump, Happy Axeman, yorkshireblue, steve van halen (5)
Amadjin: bluestarsneyes, Happy Axeman (2)
Sir Hammer: yorkshireblue, billyman, steve van halen, yorkshireblue (4)
Happy Axeman: bluestarsneyes, sir hammer, amadjin (3)
Manic: fozza gump, billyman, steve van halen (3)
Steve Van Halen: manic, Sir Hammer, yorkshireblue, afroboy, Happy Axeman, amadjin (6)
Billyman: Sir Hammer, Happy Axeman (2)
Quigmaster: Sir Hammer, laserblue, Happy Axeman, amadjin (4)
afroboy: steve van halen, sir hammer (2)
mo1ey: yorkshireblue, amadjin (2)
fozza: Happy Axeman (1)
ChurchofHalo: amadjin (1)

Red indicates players selected as potentials for execution by the king.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 24, 2006, 10:18:52 PM
sir hammer: 8 votes
happy axeman: 7 votes
amadjin: 6 votes

Whats with the mass amount of votes!!!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 24, 2006, 10:20:46 PM
I dont mean to put my head in a noose here but I seem to have more votes than everyone but my name isnt red? Is that because the game admin knows that I am not evil and should not be lynched?

Possibly so. Unvote me fellow townsfolk. I can do much good yet
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 24, 2006, 10:23:56 PM
Thats enough for my vote :P

Jokes aside, i'm not so sure on Hammy anymore.
I think he is just being annoying now over being evil.
Steve Van Halen seems to be trying to get people killed for their nationally, which is racist.
Normally it seems that the people who joke around are mafia.
This are your only posts so far in the game. Hardly a list of brilliant detective work is it. In fact 4 of the 5 posts mention me in some way. Seems you have a personal grudge against me. Maybe your Mafia partners have asked you to try and get me lynched?

oh and whats this?  (Ive bolded the key bits)
 Thats enough for my vote :P

Jokes aside,
i'm not so sure on Hammy anymore.
I think he is just being annoying now over being evil.
Steve Van Halen seems to be trying to get people killed for their nationally, which is racist.
Normally it seems that the people who joke around are mafia.

So your pretty much admitting your mafia.

If not, start playing the game instead of just coming on to pointlessly talk garbage


___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________

I won't be on until monday night, so if there's an execution ordered before then, again, no talking after it has been ordered (could one of the powers that be lock the thread in the event of an execution please?). Thanks. Enjoy yourselves  ;)

right there is the evidence afroboy,and steve read the last part of hippos post...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 24, 2006, 10:55:52 PM
So quite a few people agree with me then.

It would appear that Yorkshire has the most votes out of those 5 people with 5. Quig and Dotleo are close behind on 4
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 25, 2006, 12:00:20 AM
Bluestars is actually on 5 as well isn't she?

Going to be away tomorrow and hopefully on Thursday there should be a bit more posting from some individuals and hopefully a Bluestars execution.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 25, 2006, 01:26:13 AM
yeah hes on about the people he thinks should be executed though,thats his thoughts in red on that list
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 25, 2006, 01:39:18 AM
Safe as. Totally misinterpereted that post. Such is life.

The Curriedude is showing faith in me and not just suspecting me for a few bad jokes like others have been. I shall remember this for this game mate, the king is not a fool!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 25, 2006, 04:06:12 AM
unvote SVH

not entirely sure why i voted for you in the first place...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 25, 2006, 10:23:13 AM
Dont you have college?! What are you doing up at that time?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 25, 2006, 10:53:54 AM
Never heard of half term Steve? :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 25, 2006, 11:49:55 AM
y am i on the list what have i done and wheres dotleo he aint posted for ages and when he does there one line posts and crap
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 25, 2006, 12:06:00 PM
You're on the list because you killed Tommy yesterday.

Obviously you could be a townie that just made a mistake but you could also be an assassin that wanted to make it look like a mistake
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 25, 2006, 02:06:52 PM
We dont have half term in Uni. I had to cycle in for one poxy lecture today. Programming bores my tits off
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 25, 2006, 05:39:00 PM
billyman aint posted and hes been online awhile
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: hippo on October 25, 2006, 06:02:21 PM
The cloaked figure that seems to randomly appear on occasion in this fair kingdom once again steps forward, "It seems you are struggling to come to a decision. A deadline of friday at 5pm shall be imposed for the king's execution order. If some activity occurs, or new evidence comes to light, then the king shall be given more time, but for now, friday 5pm is the deadline." Somebody begins to question the man, but before he finishes, he has disappeared back into the shadows.

And so the day continues
.


Vote Count
dotLeo: yorkshireblue, sir hammer, fozza gump, laserblue (4)
Yorkshireblue: sir hammer, manic, steve van halen, Happy Axeman, amadjin (5)
Bluestarsneyes: sir hammer, fozza gump, Happy Axeman, yorkshireblue, steve van halen (5)
Amadjin: bluestarsneyes, Happy Axeman (2)
Sir Hammer: yorkshireblue, billyman, steve van halen, yorkshireblue (4)
Happy Axeman: bluestarsneyes, sir hammer, amadjin (3)
Manic: fozza gump, billyman, steve van halen (3)
Steve Van Halen: manic, Sir Hammer, yorkshireblue, afroboy, Happy Axeman (5)
Billyman: Sir Hammer, Happy Axeman (2)
Quigmaster: Sir Hammer, laserblue, Happy Axeman, amadjin (4)
afroboy: steve van halen, sir hammer (2)
mo1ey: yorkshireblue, amadjin (2)
fozza: Happy Axeman (1)
ChurchofHalo: amadjin (1)

Red indicates players selected as potentials for execution by the king.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 25, 2006, 06:50:18 PM
Programmin bored me to shit to so thats why i quit uni. its all lies. its a misconception of the youthful mind. i'm at work. not much to do so thought i'd give a quick post to let you know i'm still alive.  Thanks for the vote Xeman. Ur a top man. i feel special now i'm not the only one who wasn't on the list. I've got votes in for bluestars and dotleo. i'll stick with them for now. one of the ba''[./rds is guilty
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: dotLeo on October 25, 2006, 07:38:35 PM
y am i on the list what have i done and wheres dotleo he aint posted for ages and when he does there one line posts and crap
That is partly why I said get rid of yorkshire.  Pots, kettles, and dark colours?

i feel special now i'm not the only one who wasn't on the list. I've got votes in for bluestars and dotleo. i'll stick with them for now. one of the ba''[./rds is guilty
By that logic bluestars must be guilty then, as I am a merely an ordinary citizen of the town. 
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 25, 2006, 07:46:46 PM
Soz ive been absent for a day again, working is a bitch.  :laugh:

no worries fozza.  ;) but i do actually think you may be mafia, dunno why, i jsut do. :laugh:

it appears I am the only one who doesnt think Dotleo is an assassin. this is the last time i will say it, but i have a very strong feeling that lynching him at this moment will be a very big mistake.  ;)

I'm also not sure about Bluestars anymore. I think she may well be a townie.  ???

Afroboy has suddenly caught my eye with his retorts back to people voting him, and yorkshire blue continues to look dodgy, but he is another i'm struggling to decipher what his alignment is through his posting style.  :-\

I still think theres something not right about SVH

Churchy is making my alarm bells ring, but he always does on the first few days. So i couldnt be confident about him either.  :-\
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 25, 2006, 08:23:04 PM
dotleo....your post just confused me....how do you figure by that quote you posted that makes me guilty?
I'm just not understanding at all?
and what the heck do you mean by Pots, Kettles and whatever for yorkshire's post?
sorry...is that some kind of expression or something? you just totally confused me?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 25, 2006, 08:32:25 PM
Thats 7 pretty vague opinions on different people. Your constant defending of Dotleo seems a bit odd. Are you virtually claiming cop with an innocent on Dotleo now, otherwise why so sure?

What makes you think Bluestars is a townie because from here she is looking guilty?

We have a deadline that ends at Friday 5PM unless discussion starts again.

It seems there are 6 candidates on a List of Execution. Here are my thoughts on those in red...

Bluestars
- Yesterday, constantly chirping away at the rules when most have agreed that they are a good suggestion. Person most likely to kill Steven. Steven suspected her (jokingly perhaps). Slipped up by saying she was not Anti-Assassin. Last few posts have seemed very scummy to me, with constant self belittlement and use of the old chestnut "I'll be laughing when you see you have got it wrong". Lynching her would tell us alot potentially about Afroboy's alignment which is why I think this should be the choice for today.

Dotleo - Seemed quick to suggest a lynch on Yorkshire. Wording of "even if good" seems a bit strange for a Pro-Towner. Seems bloodthirsty in every post as noted by Fozza. Panicked into accusing Afroboy when he hadn't even voted him. Bit defensive. All I say is perhaps the lady doth protest too much. Axeman seems to think he is innocent although not really said any real reasons why. Lynching him would tell us abit potentially about Axeman's alignment.

Afroboy
- Playing well until suddenly changing his mind quickly when Bluestars came under pressure. Recent posts looking scummy.

Yorkshire, Billyman and Quigmaster - All equally useless so far. Yorkshire for killing an innocent and not listening to my ideas. Look how good that did us? Constantly offering nothing except for calling out people for not posting when his own is rare and rarely helpful. Billyman has not really done anything that I can remember. Quigmaster is just a poor player and seems more focused on me getting lynched than a Mafia member. All three could be assassins, but just as easily could be town. The games no worse of without them.

One of the top 3 please. Preferably Bluestars. Might as well use all the time til Friday to decide and see if they have anything else to say.


_____________

Bluestars posted during mine. In answer to her post:

Fozza said one of you and Dotleo are mafia.
Leo implied that because he knew he was innocent or is claiming to be, then you must be the guilty one.

Quote from: ye olde english sayings
The pot calling the kettle black

Is an old saying meaning like "you cant slag of those who are the same or worse as you in regards to whatever your slagging off" type of thing. Like Jose Mourihno saying Alex Ferguson has a shit coat, or you accusing Dotleo of looking like Mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 25, 2006, 09:05:14 PM
Hammer....I am convinced.....

you have made your choices based on the following....

anyone that opposes your viewpoints....you even say it in regards to Afroboy and yorkshire...you say you vote for Afroboy because he sort of said something in defense of me...and in my opinion as the one on the chopping block it was simple game talking out of his ideas about me...just as others have shared....I do not really remember him out right defending me

yorkshire you say you want to vote him off because he opposed your ideas....when in the last night? No HE DID NOT go look at your voting record...he killed off Tommy and that is WHO YOU VOTED for....so explain to me how HE went against what you thought?
HUH? You said Tommy was on your list....and the voting proves it....

and the most laughable thing you have to say about me is I am chirping away defending myself.....heck yes I am....whether you regard that or innoncent or guilty I give a rip anymore....you post your living brains off on this board...and do not critize me for posting to defend myself.

And hey Hammer you left off a few others that sort of defended me....so go back and review...I would hate for you to miss any other people you can add to your list and since when did this game be about Hammer taking me out...where is the king.


King...question me....town question me...I do not care...but I am a little tired of Hammer railing on me all day....just get it on with....you think I am guilty...fine....wh y are you still talking
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 25, 2006, 09:29:33 PM
i might not be posting much but there was another short pointless post by dotleo he is looking most suspicous to me and hammer how can u say that i dont post alot i have posted often in this game and there is alot who have posted less

i dunno about bluestars it looked she was trying to defend me in last post im going to leave my vote on her though cos she just might be doing that to make me take my vote off her
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 25, 2006, 09:41:22 PM
no I wasn't asking for you to change your vote or defending you...simply making the point
that Hammer's reason for voting for you revolves around the fact you didn't
"follow his guidelines" and my point was that he is one of the ones that Voted for
Tommy and for Steven for that fact and how can he say his guidelines would have
mattered if he was going to put in a vote for an innoncent person anyway? and then
blame you that you killed Tommy....he has as much blame in my opinion....he
just likes to point the finger at me...but to date the facts stands....he VOTED
for Tommy and for Steven...both innoncent both dead...period....
I never voted for either...that's my only point

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 25, 2006, 10:23:12 PM
Please, who ever is cop investigate me, I am begging you, please prove my innocence, thats all i have to say :pray:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 25, 2006, 10:26:41 PM
Oh one more thing, happy axeman could be one of two things, a cop who has investigated dotleo OR a mafia who is trying to look like a cop but is actually protecting his fellow mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: dotLeo on October 25, 2006, 10:35:08 PM
Hammer....you have made your choices based on the following....

anyone that opposes your viewpoints....you even say it in regards to Afroboy and yorkshire...you say you vote for Afroboy because he sort of said something in defense of me...and in my opinion as the one on the chopping block it was simple game talking out of his ideas about me...just as others have shared....I do not really remember him out right defending me

Disagree, I was in favour of the guidelines, and little of what hammer says I don't agree with at face value - it all makes sense, even the bits about me.  However, just because his reasoning is logical does not mean that his argument is correct.

it appears I am the only one who doesnt think Dotleo is an assassin. this is the last time i will say it, but i have a very strong feeling that lynching him at this moment will be a very big mistake.  ;)

I didn't want to say it before because it is effectively outing the cop (or similar useful role), but because Axeman is so certain of my innoncence and we have had no correspondence, I am sure that he must have some investiagative powers. 

Dotleo - Seemed quick to suggest a lynch on Yorkshire. Wording of "even if good" seems a bit strange for a Pro-Towner. Seems bloodthirsty in every post as noted by Fozza. Panicked into accusing Afroboy when he hadn't even voted him. Bit defensive. All I say is perhaps the lady doth protest too much. Axeman seems to think he is innocent although not really said any real reasons why. Lynching him would tell us abit potentially about Axeman's alignment.


I have adequately explained my reasons for the above, if people choose to overlook these posts, or not believe them, so be it, I feel no need to defend myself further.  Lynching me would prove that Axeman is good, but I think you would be wise not to, given that the town would be another member down. 

Oh one more thing, happy axeman could be one of two things, a cop who has investigated dotleo OR a mafia who is trying to look like a cop but is actually protecting his fellow mafia.
How likely is it to be the latter? If and when I am lynched, and if I were to be shown as mafia, Axeman would automatically be declared mafia too after such a strong defence of me.  Given that it is a real possibility that I could be lynched and he still continues to be vociforous in his defence of me, I say it was about the worst possible move he could make if we were mafia. 
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 25, 2006, 10:59:04 PM
Yeah, I am not so sure about Dotleo's guiltyness (Is that a word?) now.

If Axeman and Dotleo were both evil and Dotleo was lynched then it would almost certainly prove that Axeman is evil and that would be a stupid thing for Axeman to claim.

If Axeman is a cop and knows that Dotleo is innocent then that is enough for me.

However, if Axeman and Dotleo were really clever and were both evil then they could have Axeman defend Dotleo like he has done so that, through reverse psychology, everyone would think that Axeman is innocent.

But that would be very risky so I think I'll take Dotleo off the list.

It comes to my attention that Bluestars and Yorkshire have the most votes with Quig close behind.
Personally I am still not sure about Bluestars. She may well be evil and have slipped up but I think it was just stupidity because if she was evil she'd probably check her posts incase of slip-ups.
Yorkshire is quite suspicious to me because he hasn't posted that much on day 2 and I just think his posts are a little pointless and it's as if he's only posting so that he can look like a townie. Also his execution of Tommy was very quick and it was either a mistake (if he's a townie) or he did it so that it could like a mistake (if he's evil)
Quig is obviously not here so killing him is a bit pointless as he won't be able to say anything to defend himself. But that doesn't mean he's not evil.
Billyman is also suspicious to me as he has rarely posted. He may just be not posting much but were he evil he could just be lurking and trying not to attract any attention to himself.

So I think I have narrowed it down to the list of Bluestars, Yorkshire and Billyman.
I will wait for people to cast more votes and if a clear majority has voted in favour of killing one of those 3 (9 votes was the majority wasn't it Hammer?) then I will execute them.

If there isn't a majority vote I will decide on Friday. Bear in mind however that just because those 3 are the only ones of the list doesn't mean that nobody else could join them.

P.S Just remembered that Manic is still playing! Where the hell is he!?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 25, 2006, 11:03:11 PM
How likely is it to be the latter? If and when I am lynched, and if I were to be shown as mafia, Axeman would automatically be declared mafia too after such a strong defence of me.  Given that it is a real possibility that I could be lynched and he still continues to be vociforous in his defence of me, I say it was about the worst possible move he could make if we were mafia. 
To me this explains happy axeman is a cop and dotleo is some sort of innocent person.

The cloaked figure that seems to randomly appear on occasion in this fair kingdom once again steps forward, "It seems you are struggling to come to a decision. A deadline of friday at 5pm shall be imposed for the king's execution order. If some activity occurs, or new evidence comes to light, then the king shall be given more time, but for now, friday 5pm is the deadline." Somebody begins to question the man, but before he finishes, he has disappeared back into the shadows.

And so the day continues
.

Somebody begins to question the man, but before he finishes, he has disappeared back into the shadows

Maybe hippo is trying to give us some sort of clue here, if you look on page 20 which is just before hippos post yorkshire briefly came on and posted twice and then disappeared again, suspicious ey.

Currieman you didn't mention me then.... does this mean i'm off the list?? if not then please can i have your thoughts, thanks.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 25, 2006, 11:30:14 PM
to mafiaqueenbluestars
you have made your choices based on the following....

anyone that opposes your viewpoints....you even say it in regards to Afroboy and yorkshire...you say you vote for Afroboy because he sort of said something in defense of me...and in my opinion as the one on the chopping block it was simple game talking out of his ideas about me...just as others have shared....I do not really remember him out right defending me

This seems to be like a defence.

There's alot of votes flying about lately, there just seems to be a big row over bluestars, apart from what she said about anti-assasin she hasn't actuallly done much wrong, she is posting quite regularly.

Considering only a few posts before he had said this

Quote from: Afroboy
Good Claim hammer, it does make clear sense, top of my suspision list are SVH and bluestars at the moment.

Check


yorkshire you say you want to vote him off because he opposed your ideas....when in the last night? No HE DID NOT go look at your voting record...he killed off Tommy and that is WHO YOU VOTED for....so explain to me how HE went against what you thought?
HUH? You said Tommy was on your list....and the voting proves it....

Sorry to ruin it, but your have not quite caught me out as much as you think you have.
I put some speculative evidence against Tommy. I voted for Tommy. I voted for alot of people. I didn't want them to be quickly lynched without a proper chance to defend themselves. This is what Yorkshire did. At that point we still had alot of people not posting so he could have waited.
When I say he went against my ideas I mean he refused to accept that the "golden guidlines" at all.
Check


and the most laughable thing you have to say about me is I am chirping away defending myself.....heck yes I am....whether you regard that or innoncent or guilty I give a rip anymore....you post your living brains off on this board...and do not critize me for posting to defend myself.

And hey Hammer you left off a few others that sort of defended me....so go back and review...I would hate for you to miss any other people you can add to your list and since when did this game be about Hammer taking me out...where is the king.

King...question me....town question me...I do not care...but I am a little tired of Hammer railing on me all day....just get it on with....you think I am guilty...fine....wh y are you still talking

Right so down your telling me not to post? Maybe I have hit a nerve? Reactions are one of the main things to go on this early in a game so thats why im still talking. Maybe you and your mafia cronies should have took me out last night. 8)
Check

___________________ _________
to scurrydotleo
1.Disagree, I was in favour of the guidelines, and little of what hammer says I don't agree with at face value - it all makes sense, even the bits about me.  However, just because his reasoning is logical does not mean that his argument is correct.

2.I have adequately explained my reasons for the above, if people choose to overlook these posts, or not believe them, so be it, I feel no need to defend myself further.  Lynching me would prove that Axeman is good, but I think you would be wise not to, given that the town would be another member down. 

3.How likely is it to be the latter? If and when I am lynched, and if I were to be shown as mafia, Axeman would automatically be declared mafia too after such a strong defence of me.  Given that it is a real possibility that I could be lynched and he still continues to be vociforous in his defence of me, I say it was about the worst possible move he could make if we were mafia. 

1. True
2. You have adequately explained your reasons, but im not sure yet if I believe them.
3. Yeah, it would appear to be quite silly if you both were Mafia. That actually why im starting to think you might not be as its the same between me and Moley. One wouldn't out the other

___________________ ___
to afroboy
1.To me this explains happy axeman is a cop and dotleo is some sort of innocent person.

2.Maybe hippo is trying to give us some sort of clue here, if you look on page 20 which is just before hippos post yorkshire briefly came on and posted twice and then disappeared again, suspicious ey.

3.Currieman you didn't mention me then.... does this mean i'm off the list?? if not then please can i have your thoughts, thanks.

1. Yeah, I guess thats whats been implied unless Axeman is just trying to lure the mafia into killing him leaving the real cop safe. Who knows? We can't really assume anything about the two of them at this point. Maybe he will clear it up next time hes on.

2. I wouldn't read into anything Hippo does. The mod isn't meant to give any type of clue and I have only done so once in the very first game when I said something about Monksie not posting. I think Hippo was just disapointed with the low quality of the posts during today until he set the deadline and people starting talking again.

3. I would say you shouldn't be lynched today because in my mind your guilt relies heavily on Bluestars. If she is guilty then so are you, vice-versa.


___

Its hard to do actual real assignments when I can just stir things up all the time in here :D :D :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 26, 2006, 12:00:30 AM
you do know that if happy was mafia he would also know who is innocent and could claim cop also...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 26, 2006, 06:17:34 PM
Unvote dotleo after Axemans post I'm prepared to give him the benefit of any doubt for now.

The other person I voted for was Quigmaster I know he is away & understand he can't defend himself at the mo but even before that he seemed to be avoiding getting involved.
he may have had a good reason but I think he needs to get involved more when he gets back.

I also said yorkshire was looking suspicious. I still think he looks like he is but not sure of his guiltiness (& yes it is a proper word Currieman, just think you spelt it wrong )


.....and finally.... Quote by currieman "P.S Just remembered that Manic is still playing! Where the hell is he!?"

I'd forgotten he was in the game..... theres no chance of him slipping up as he has hardly ever posted!
I think he needs to post or risk looking like he is guilty as sin.
 ;D

 
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 26, 2006, 06:53:58 PM
I've been going back looking at a few things...and I am confused....

1) Hammer if you are mason, and you say that Mo1ey is mason, then why on the first two vote counts did you vote for him?
Why wouldn't you have known he was a mason? What would be the purpose in voting for him and twice?

2) Why has Mo1ey NEVER voted for anyone...if he has please correct me...but I can't see he has EVER voted for anyone. If he is Mason and working with Hammer....why does he not vote to back up Hammer? Why do they not have the same votes?

3) Happy Axeman asserts that dotleo is 100% innoncent...he also said something that struck me....IF dotleo was assasinated it would be a BIG mistake.....made me think, assuming Axeman is telling the truth....what ROLE would be so important that it would be a BIG Mistake for the town? I can only figure maybe the Doc or Hero role...and if we kill off the hero...then the king will be killed (if my understanding is right) therefore assuming that the current king is innocent...we would be killing off two more innoncents....hmm.. .and if we kill off the Doc then we are taking away the ability to heal another valuable innoncent that might be targeted....so...no w it's making me think...

4) Assuming that Axeman is actually telling the truth, once again I go back and think now who is against him....and in the voting Sir Hammer and Amadjin and myself. I voted due to the fact that I noticed he had voted for Tommy and Steven.
So that being said....now the question in my mind is this...if Axeman is innoncent...why did he vote for Tommy and Steven...was it that he is lying now...or was playing a bad game on the first day?

5) Next question....in my mind...either Axeman and dotleo are guilty or Mo1ey and Hammer are guilty...because Hammer is voting against Axeman in prior votes I assume he thinks that Axeman is guilty...and he's made his case against dotleo...so now I go into thinking...is Hammer just mistaken and is now going to realize Axeman is innoncent and change his votes...or does he think Axeman is lying...or are they both evil and playing a good game and now have a way to sort of claim that Axeman is the cop and then giving Axeman, Hammer, Mo1ey and dotleo all a pass.

6) I know I'm innoncent....howeve r going back at the vote count looking at who has voted against me since the beginning....Sir Hammer has voted for me each time since the beginning....intere sting since he was voting for me before the typo and before Steven ever made jokes and hardly before the game began......I'd list the others that Sir Hammer has voted for...but the list is too long..so I'll list who he HASN't Voted for in the game so far....Amadjin, Currieman, laserblue and fozza.......
The people voting for me seem to have a few players in common that their votes all agree....bluestarsn eyes...Afroboy...yo rkshireblue....Quig master....Manic.... Billyman....

I'm thinking this...either Amadjin is assuming Hammer is a Mason and just votes with him or he is mafia with him....since he unvoted me all I can think of is that he is going along with Hammer and is actually innoncent

SVH...not sure on him either....his vote for me didn't even make any sense because he said it was because I was supicious of him...I hadn't mentioned him...so either he's mafia and just playing a good game...or lost....not sure at this point.

fozza...well he is convinced that dotleo is guilty...so either he is innoncent or dotleo in my mind...and since fozza also voted for Steven and Tommy I'm inclined to think he may be mafia....or either he is just lazy and isn't paying attention either

Hammer....he just confuses me...his prior voting..and his just pure conviction that I am guilty makes me more inclined to think my original hunches about him are right...he's off somehow....explain to me why Mo1ey doesn't vote...even if it is to vote for me and the ones you Hammer believe to be guilty? It doesn't make any sense...what's the point of him being in the game...he never posts and never votes....why? If he's mason why isn't he as active to help the town as you?

I'm still looking back....just trying to put it all out that I have been thinking about so if I go down then whoever in the town is left can draw some conclusions and hopefully I'll make it another day and we actually get a MAFIA killed this go around.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 26, 2006, 07:23:03 PM
1) Hammer if you are mason, and you say that Mo1ey is mason, then why on the first two vote counts did you vote for him?
Why wouldn't you have known he was a mason? What would be the purpose in voting for him and twice?

2) Why has Mo1ey NEVER voted for anyone...if he has please correct me...but I can't see he has EVER voted for anyone. If he is Mason and working with Hammer....why does he not vote to back up Hammer? Why do they not have the same votes?

3) Happy Axeman asserts that dotleo is 100% innoncent...he also said something that struck me....IF dotleo was assasinated it would be a BIG mistake.....made me think, assuming Axeman is telling the truth....what ROLE would be so important that it would be a BIG Mistake for the town? I can only figure maybe the Doc or Hero role...and if we kill off the hero...then the king will be killed (if my understanding is right) therefore assuming that the current king is innocent...we would be killing off two more innoncents....hmm.. .and if we kill off the Doc then we are taking away the ability to heal another valuable innoncent that might be targeted....so...no w it's making me think...

4) Assuming that Axeman is actually telling the truth, once again I go back and think now who is against him....and in the voting Sir Hammer and Amadjin and myself. I voted due to the fact that I noticed he had voted for Tommy and Steven.
So that being said....now the question in my mind is this...if Axeman is innoncent...why did he vote for Tommy and Steven...was it that he is lying now...or was playing a bad game on the first day?

5) Next question....in my mind...either Axeman and dotleo are guilty or Mo1ey and Hammer are guilty...because Hammer is voting against Axeman in prior votes I assume he thinks that Axeman is guilty...and he's made his case against dotleo...so now I go into thinking...is Hammer just mistaken and is now going to realize Axeman is innoncent and change his votes...or does he think Axeman is lying...or are they both evil and playing a good game and now have a way to sort of claim that Axeman is the cop and then giving Axeman, Hammer, Mo1ey and dotleo all a pass.

6) I know I'm innoncent....howeve r going back at the vote count looking at who has voted against me since the beginning....Sir Hammer has voted for me each time since the beginning....intere sting since he was voting for me before the typo and before Steven ever made jokes and hardly before the game began......I'd list the others that Sir Hammer has voted for...but the list is too long..so I'll list who he HASN't Voted for in the game so far....Amadjin, Currieman, laserblue and fozza.......
The people voting for me seem to have a few players in common that their votes all agree....bluestarsn eyes...Afroboy...yo rkshireblue....Quig master....Manic.... Billyman....

I'm thinking this...either Amadjin is assuming Hammer is a Mason and just votes with him or he is mafia with him....since he unvoted me all I can think of is that he is going along with Hammer and is actually innoncent

SVH...not sure on him either....his vote for me didn't even make any sense because he said it was because I was supicious of him...I hadn't mentioned him...so either he's mafia and just playing a good game...or lost....not sure at this point.

fozza...well he is convinced that dotleo is guilty...so either he is innoncent or dotleo in my mind...and since fozza also voted for Steven and Tommy I'm inclined to think he may be mafia....or either he is just lazy and isn't paying attention either

Hammer....he just confuses me...his prior voting..and his just pure conviction that I am guilty makes me more inclined to think my original hunches about him are right...he's off somehow....explain to me why Mo1ey doesn't vote...even if it is to vote for me and the ones you Hammer believe to be guilty? It doesn't make any sense...what's the point of him being in the game...he never posts and never votes....why? If he's mason why isn't he as active to help the town as you?

I'm still looking back....just trying to put it all out that I have been thinking about so if I go down then whoever in the town is left can draw some conclusions and hopefully I'll make it another day and we actually get a MAFIA killed this go around.


1. Simply because I wanted to vote for all the non-posters and it would look a bit suspicious if I left out Moley. At that point I had not revealed that we were masons so obviously I didn't want to leave an easy link for the Mafia to try and frame me woth.

2. Because he has not been very active at all. Its his first game and he is probably having trouble getting his head round it. He has backed me up on some occasions but really he has not done much else.

3. There is no possible legal way that Axeman knows Dotleos role unless he is a Mason or a Mafia member with him. Cop investigations are either innocent or guilty and don't give complete roles. I think he is just either being dramatic or just trying to get his point across by using BIG MISTAKE. The hero role is not really that helpful for the Town. I have already given my reasons why I think its a better role for the Mafia than for the Town.

4. He voted Steven and Tommy because he thought they looked suspicious on Day One. In hindsight we know they are innocent but obviously then it was all speculation.

5. Just because I vote people doesn't mean I think they are guilty. I use voting as a way to gauge reactions and to provoke non posters most of the time. People seem to be putting forward alot of very far-fetched intricate plans like Mafia claiming as Masons and Cops. This would be pretty poor play at this point, high-risk, low chance of high-reward type strategies. How would claiming Cop from Axeman be a free pass. He risks having the real cop investigate him. The real cop (if there is one) has probably investigated me last night and I think I know who that person is and no I am not going to out that person, nor should they out themselves until they have a few more investigations under there belt.

6. I have voted for people I think the most suspicious and to catch people out. I believe certain people have slipped up and acted in a way which me to points that they might be mafia, like with Afroboys quick rush to defend you. I will continue to do this until my team wins, the King foolishly executes me or the mafia finally kill me.

Quote
bluestarsneyes. ..Afroboy...yorkshi reblue....Quigmaste r....Manic ....Billyman....

You point out that me and a few others have all voted for these people. You say that maybe the people voting for these people must be linked. Is it not just more likely that all these people have either been very inactive (Manic, Billyman) or have made posts that seem mafia like (Bluestars admission of guilt, Afroboys quick flip-flop on Bluestars, Yorkshires quick execution, Quigmasters poor play in general).


Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 26, 2006, 08:22:01 PM
1) okay I can see how that might be possible.

2) well it's my first game too and you guys have been on my booty for every move I make...post too little post too much whatever...I guess he is smarter than me cause he'll probably last a little longer...but I think it is overstating it a bit that he has backed you up on a few occasions he has posted probably a total of 2 times...and all I can say is that if you are a Mason...then you need to get him to start backing you up....at the very least voting for people....it makes you look suspcious. I mean if I can get you to realize that I am town it would give us one more vote against the real mafia....so make him vote...even if it takes me out....I'll take my chances.

3) You know these rules a little better than I do..but I think you are right on that there is no way for him to KNOW he is innoncent unless he is either Mafia or Mason. Mafia I can see...but Mason...now if he says he is Mason...isn't that sort of saying that you and Mo1ey are not? Or is it possible to have four masons? It seems sort of unlikely to me...but I don't know. And why would he consider Mason so valuable...I thought basically a Mason knew if someone else was a Mason...so couldn't you tell us if you are a Mason whether he was or not?

4) well I guess that is an easy card to pull.

5) well that is something I guess i didn't expect in this game...that people would vote for someone just to guage their reaction. After playing for a few days now...I sort of get that kind of mentality. See your saying you were Mason so soon threw me off and to me it was like a red flag....of course that can both ways...either you are sly as a fox...or dumb as a rock...no offense.
I'm not sure Axeman claimed to be cop...I think Afroboy and a few others sort of thought he might be acting as cop. I don't think anyone should out their position at this point...it's still seems early...and I don't think it saves them...heck it makes me more supicious to be honest.

6) I don't get how you started voting for me right out of the box. I hardly said a thing...now I see why you are voting for me because you think it is going to dig my grave...well maybe...but I'm just here to say that I am innoncent and I think if you ARE Mason you are wasting ALOT of time on me...if you think I am Mafia....fine you have voted for me...so we agree to disagree...if we can agree on one thing....there is more than one Mafia....all I would like to ask from you at this point is to not give up looking into others as well.....I would like to do that too...if I go out...at least I want to find out the Mafia before I go....got to give Steven something to be proud of me for you know.

7) First off I didn't admit guilt you sneaky dude....I just meant to say I wasn't for the assasins...and totally mangled that one...whatever..... Afroboy's turn on me....heck surprised me...but he still hasn't outright defended me...but at this point I am thinking he's the only person in the game I sort of think is innoncent because he isn't voting for me and I know my role....so that's all I can say to that? I still think Yorkshire getting any flake for killing off Tommy by you is sort of ironic considering you voted for him...and so did Axeman and Amadjin....I mean you all got it wrong...and it was the first day...but are you saying what you want to vote for yorkshire for is that he did it quick meaning he didn't just say okay guys here's my short list? Because I thought he did and it was the first day....I'm not sure what to make of him....I would lean more toward innoncent and wanting to get the game going....but then again...I can see the rush vote being suspicious....along with the fact an innoncent got killed....

Quigmaster.....so why is it that someone can just quit playing because they have to go out of town or computer down or whatever and they don't get killed off...I mean to me it seems an easy play....start killing off the ones that don't post...take your chances...at least then we may find out something by who goes and then start with the ones that post...it just seems very unfair to kill off someone that is at least trying to play the game...although I'm not saying I'm voting for Quig I don't remember his situation for not playing much...but he's not the only one....there's many...Manic...and Billyman although I thought I saw him in the last day...not sure.... and Mo1ey...Hammer get your man in here...cause I think he needs to participate and play his role.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 26, 2006, 08:31:58 PM

3) You know these rules a little better than I do..but I think you are right on that there is no way for him to KNOW he is innoncent unless he is either Mafia or Mason. Mafia I can see...but Mason...now if he says he is Mason...isn't that sort of saying that you and Mo1ey are not? Or is it possible to have four masons? It seems sort of unlikely to me...but I don't know. And why would he consider Mason so valuable...I thought basically a Mason knew if someone else was a Mason...so couldn't you tell us if you are a Mason whether he was or not?

6) I don't get how you started voting for me right out of the box. I hardly said a thing...now I see why you are voting for me because you think it is going to dig my grave...well maybe...but I'm just here to say that I am innoncent and I think if you ARE Mason you are wasting ALOT of time on me...if you think I am Mafia....fine you have voted for me...so we agree to disagree...if we can agree on one thing....there is more than one Mafia....all I would like to ask from you at this point is to not give up looking into others as well.....I would like to do that too...if I go out...at least I want to find out the Mafia before I go....got to give Steven something to be proud of me for you know.


3) Its possible, but unlikely that there are two seperate groups of masons that don't know about each others existence. The only person in my mason group is Moley. Thats all I know about masons so therefore I would have to treat someone else claiming to be a mason with suspicion.
Axeman is either
a) in a group with Dotleo either Mafia (possible, but unlikely) or Mason (very unlikely)
b) cop with an innocent result on Dotleo
c) normal townie who for some reason just defending Leo very strongly on a gut reaction
d) some other thing that Hippo may have slipped in which is not outlined in the rules/roles at the start (unlikely)

Also I can't make Moley post. I have spoke to him a few times during the night phase, but I can't force him to get on. I would like a little more help from him though but as I know hes innocent I feel im better of focusing on others.

6) Ok well I have tryed to get something on other people (Quig, Dotleo, Afro) so who do you think is mafia if you are not?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: hippo on October 26, 2006, 08:41:54 PM
Vote Count
dotLeo: yorkshireblue, sir hammer, fozza gump (3)
Yorkshireblue: sir hammer, manic, steve van halen, Happy Axeman, amadjin (5)
Bluestarsneyes: sir hammer, fozza gump, Happy Axeman, yorkshireblue, steve van halen (5)
Amadjin: bluestarsneyes, Happy Axeman (2)
Sir Hammer: yorkshireblue, billyman, steve van halen, yorkshireblue (4)
Happy Axeman: bluestarsneyes, sir hammer, amadjin (3)
Manic: fozza gump, billyman, steve van halen (3)
Steve Van Halen: manic, Sir Hammer, yorkshireblue, afroboy, Happy Axeman (5)
Billyman: Sir Hammer, Happy Axeman (2)
Quigmaster: Sir Hammer, laserblue, Happy Axeman, amadjin (4)
afroboy: steve van halen, sir hammer (2)
mo1ey: yorkshireblue, amadjin (2)
fozza: Happy Axeman (1)
ChurchofHalo: amadjin (1)

Red indicates players selected as potentials for execution by the king.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 26, 2006, 08:52:03 PM
3) Everyone was voting REALLY hard for dotleo a few pages back...so to me it does seem odd for him to be defend him...and his passionate defense of him just sparked confusion on my part and then to make it more confusing he actually mentions that he thinks I'm town...well good for me..but then made me nervous that he was attempting to trick me and get me to take my vote off of him...but I'm so supicious of everyone at this point it could be me being dramatic...

a) not sure...but mason just seems so unlikely to me....would be too many in the game then if you are telling the truth and sort of puts you in a bind either way because now we all question your Mason too?
b) if he is a cop...can he do an investigation at any time other than night? just wondering because if he knows him to be innoncent then how long has he known? and why defend him just now when he's been pretty close to death for awhile.
c) not sure...doesn't seem like a townie would be that passionate...he seems to have some role...whether it be mafia or cop or something...
d) can he do that? well I guess he can...but has he done that before? Wow...that would be confusing!

I don't guess you can make anyone post...but I'm just telling you to tell him if he is MASON he at least needs to get in her and vote because he isn't playing his role and otherwise I'm going to start voting for him to make him post.

I know you have tried other people....and I am going to go back and read your arguements on Quig because honestly can't remember...I think at this point Dotleo and Axeman obviously have an alliance...and I am not sure what I think of it yet....I guess because more of my lack of knowledge on the abilities of all of the roles...but I'd like to hear from Axeman more details on why we should believe him on dotleo..
Quig just hasn't posted alot....so I can see that one...but what about Manic and Billyman...both haven't posted in some time...I'm going back to read what they have to say in their posts..

I'm sort of convinced that Afroboy is innoncent...I mean he isn't voting for me and seems from his last few posts to be on the up and up...can't think of any other reason he would stick his neck out for me unless he believed I was innoncent and then that would make him innocent to me..so that's my opinion on him.

I did take my vote off you Hammer a while back and I'll continue to leave it that way....just to show I have nothing to loose at this point...and show that I just want a Mafia to go before me.

I still have my vote on Axeman and want to hear more from him...

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 26, 2006, 09:04:24 PM
unvote bluestarsneyes made a bad mistake but tis her first time and dont think she is evil

hammer and currieman keep saying i dont post alot well i posted more then half of the people on here
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 26, 2006, 09:05:24 PM
unvote bluestarsneyes made a bad mistake but tis her first time and dont think she is evil

hammer and currieman keep saying i dont post alot well i posted more then half of the people on here

Thats true, I think I was overloaded by Blues
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 26, 2006, 09:09:51 PM
Quig was on top of my list before the word that he went away....
I can't find the post...but where is he...and how made that announcement
he is away?

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 26, 2006, 09:43:09 PM
why the fuck would anyone want me to role claim that i am a cop on Day2?

in my eyes, if a townie at this early day thought someone was a cop, you should keep it quiet, as saying that is a sure way to get them killed much to the detriment of the townies...

So am i a cop? no.
Am i working with Dotleo? no.
Did i have a special unique power that hippo hasnt mentioned? yes, and i have used it early.  :-\
What was it? I could investigate just one person throughout the game, and i could never be made king.  :-\
Why havent i said this before now? cause everytime ive tried to let the townies know what i was doing in past games, I get harrarased bigtime saying i'm lying, usually resulting in my death.

Why invetigate Dotleo? I investigated Dotleo because I too thought he was looking dodgy.
Why Defend Dotleo? Cause i got an Innocent result and in Day2  Dotleo was becoming the prime suspect, I had to start saying he wasnt evil as I knew he was innocent. I said it many times but everyone continued to put him top of there list, So i finally gave it one last shot by putting BIG in there. I kinda knew i would be singled out and labled a cop by someone wanting the cop to expose themselves.
If i was a cop, do you really think i would do something so blatent and stupid as that to expose myself?

in any case, there has been enough talk about me being a cop to ensure that I will indeed be target no.1 for the night.  :'(

this is why I believe AFROBOY, AMADJIN to be the prime suspects on this day.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 26, 2006, 10:05:34 PM
Investing Dotleo makes sense to me because you are right at that point in the game he was with the most votes....so that I get...

now assuming you are telling the truth.....
that makes you innocent and dotleo.....assuming we believe
Hammer and mo1ey...that makes them innoncent

I'm telling you that if afroboy is taking up for me...he's
got to be innoncent because I know I am and if he was
mafia he could have just taken me out too...
I don't know about amadjin I didn't see him vote for you
Axeman...I think he was just saying you could be mafia
and making the claim he didn't vote for you that I can see since
you took up for dotleo...so I don't think you should count him
so quickly...maybe I'm wrong...but I questioned it and so did others
and I'm not so sure that means he's guilty.

I'm still looking back to find the post where Quig left...and see the last
time he logged in...I see billyman was on but no post...

I say these folks need to come read and post their opinions

Billyman
Manic
Quig
Church
laserblue
fozza
SVH
Mo1ey

and I'd like to know what the king thinks about Axeman...I think he believed it if I read right...so
I think I'm going to along with the king for now...and
UNVOTE AXEMAN

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 26, 2006, 10:10:55 PM
Interesting, alot to take in there. Not 100% sure I believe it. The rules at the start of the game make it pretty clear that only those roles stated are in the game. I wouldn't have thought Hippo would mess around like that in his first game and it seems a bit off that you cannot be made King. What happens if the Kingmaker picks you and someone who dies? Who would be King then? So did you use your investigation during the daytime or last night?

Well, we can take Dotleo of the list for now in light of this evidence.


I now go for a lynch of Afroboy or Bluestars. If Afro is mafia then its likely that Bluestars is and vice-versa.

A lynch of a non-poster would be a waste really as we have no info on them and its a shot in the dark. I think the deadline should be removed for now just to get all the non-posters to chip in here, alot has happened and whats the point playing if your not going to do anything, so

Billyman, Moley, Manic and all the others who have been virtually absent over the last few days get stuck in....
___________________ _____

in response to Bluestars last post

I'm telling you that if afroboy is taking up for me...he's
got to be innoncent because I know I am and if he was
mafia he could have just taken me out too...

You are either missing this or choosing to ignore it anyway in your defence of Afroboy.

If he is mafia and you are not, he knows that you are innocent. Its a common mafia ploy to stauchly defend a townie when they are near to getting lynched so afterwards they look innocent. This is why I think you or Afroboy has to be the lynch today.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 26, 2006, 10:31:03 PM
Interesting development with Happy and Dotleo, could be an elaborate Assasin ploy but I don't think so but I will keep this though in the back of my mind as the game continues, be stupid not to.

I think happy will end up dead tonight whatever happens, shame as I think he is telling the truth but his ahnd has been forced and the mafia will probably kill him on the off chance he is a cop or the town vigilante role might kill him believing he is a mafia member.  Either weay if he does turn up dead (hopefully not) it would clear the Dotleo situation up completey and we would have our 100% innocent or an assasin.

Quig seems to ahve come in again for some more flak, but he has not said anything much recently that I believe to be worthy of suspision but things change after a night phase you see things in different lights.

Bluestars seems to ahve explained herself quite well and I think people are cutting he some slack as its her first game but was that slip an admission of guilt, I think not but time will tell.


My choice is Afroboy.

Afroboy as he posts says a lot of crap, contradicts himself a couple of times and when people question he dissapears, definatly worthy of as much suspision as anyone and the best target I can see in the current climate.

Vote:Afroboy
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 26, 2006, 10:32:42 PM
so you are saying afroboy could be defending me because he feels I'm going to die anyway...and
he knows I'm innoncent so it gives him an out? Can I cuss now!
I never thought of that..dangit....I can come up with reasons to suspect
everyone in this dang game and just when I think I might
have one person I can count out....then another idea...thanks
Hammer...you are making my head hurt.

I guess if Afroboy is mafia he's played a good game but I'm just not
sure if I believe it or not....from his posts he doesn't appear that evil to me
and he does ask to be investigated...so not sure...

I would just have others at the top of my list first and I am still
curious why SVH has so many posts and yet the king doesn't have him on
his lists...and since the king doesn't seem to think he's guilty why
do other people still have votes for him?

So you seem to not fully take Axeman on his word of his power...but you
take dotleo off the list? Why not take both off because if Axeman
is lying about his role...wouldn't he be lying about dotleo's guilt or innocence?


I still want the other posters that haven't posted to get in here if possible
before the king makes his decision.




Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 26, 2006, 10:50:09 PM
Interestingly, Bluestars has suddenly started defending herself by saying stuff like this:

I'm telling you that if afroboy is taking up for me...he's
got to be innoncent because I know I am
When you're a townie you don't generally need to exclaim your innocence that much.

Anyway, am I correct in saying that Bluestars now has the most votes out of the people on my list?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 27, 2006, 12:18:22 AM
Vote bluestars I have not voted for you so far cause you like me are new & I just thought your mistake was because of that but now your trying to divert the suspicion on to anyone, smacks of being desperate to me.

Whats this ???

Quote by bluestars

I say these folks need to come read and post their opinions

Billyman
Manic
Quig
Church
laserblue
fozza
SVH
Mo1ey

If you care to read back you will see & have posted my opinions plenty.

it's not just this post but in your recent post you seem to try to divert suspicion on to anyone.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 27, 2006, 01:58:03 AM
so me questioning happy possibly being mafia claiming cop-like actions makes me prime suspect to him? now what were the odds of that happening?

and king i dont think the front runners are guilty to be honest,i think SVH is the most guilty of the 3 with the biggest % of votes,but hey thats why your king and im a peasant...vote: SVH
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: MOLEYman on October 27, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
TBH as this is my first game Im reading more that I am posting ???

I am finding it hard to find any evidence to try and make acusations, and nail down a mafia player

i am fully aware that sir hammer is like me a mason so can vouch for his inocence (sp??)

DOTLEO seems the most likely to me to be mafia but again I have no strong proof so will not cast a vote ATM also if axeman have vouched for his innocence this leads me to one conculsion

1 both are GOOD
2 both are BAD

I am surpised that if axeman is claiming to be a cop falsly then the real cop has not let thier position known

(im no sherlock homes am I  :'( )

another post and still no vote
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: MOLEYman on October 27, 2006, 10:03:01 AM
1) okay I can see how that might be possible.

2) well it's my first game too and you guys have been on my booty for every move I make...post too little post too much whatever...I guess he is smarter than me cause he'll probably last a little longer...but I think it is overstating it a bit that he has backed you up on a few occasions he has posted probably a total of 2 times...and all I can say is that if you are a Mason...then you need to get him to start backing you up....at the very least voting for people....it makes you look suspcious. I mean if I can get you to realize that I am town it would give us one more vote against the real mafia....so make him vote...even if it takes me out....I'll take my chances.

3) You know these rules a little better than I do..but I think you are right on that there is no way for him to KNOW he is innoncent unless he is either Mafia or Mason. Mafia I can see...but Mason...now if he says he is Mason...isn't that sort of saying that you and Mo1ey are not? Or is it possible to have four masons? It seems sort of unlikely to me...but I don't know. And why would he consider Mason so valuable...I thought basically a Mason knew if someone else was a Mason...so couldn't you tell us if you are a Mason whether he was or not?

4) well I guess that is an easy card to pull.

5) well that is something I guess i didn't expect in this game...that people would vote for someone just to guage their reaction. After playing for a few days now...I sort of get that kind of mentality. See your saying you were Mason so soon threw me off and to me it was like a red flag....of course that can both ways...either you are sly as a fox...or dumb as a rock...no offense.
I'm not sure Axeman claimed to be cop...I think Afroboy and a few others sort of thought he might be acting as cop. I don't think anyone should out their position at this point...it's still seems early...and I don't think it saves them...heck it makes me more supicious to be honest.

6) I don't get how you started voting for me right out of the box. I hardly said a thing...now I see why you are voting for me because you think it is going to dig my grave...well maybe...but I'm just here to say that I am innoncent and I think if you ARE Mason you are wasting ALOT of time on me...if you think I am Mafia....fine you have voted for me...so we agree to disagree...if we can agree on one thing....there is more than one Mafia....all I would like to ask from you at this point is to not give up looking into others as well.....I would like to do that too...if I go out...at least I want to find out the Mafia before I go....got to give Steven something to be proud of me for you know.

7) First off I didn't admit guilt you sneaky dude....I just meant to say I wasn't for the assasins...and totally mangled that one...whatever..... Afroboy's turn on me....heck surprised me...but he still hasn't outright defended me...but at this point I am thinking he's the only person in the game I sort of think is innoncent because he isn't voting for me and I know my role....so that's all I can say to that? I still think Yorkshire getting any flake for killing off Tommy by you is sort of ironic considering you voted for him...and so did Axeman and Amadjin....I mean you all got it wrong...and it was the first day...but are you saying what you want to vote for yorkshire for is that he did it quick meaning he didn't just say okay guys here's my short list? Because I thought he did and it was the first day....I'm not sure what to make of him....I would lean more toward innoncent and wanting to get the game going....but then again...I can see the rush vote being suspicious....along with the fact an innoncent got killed....

Quigmaster.....so why is it that someone can just quit playing because they have to go out of town or computer down or whatever and they don't get killed off...I mean to me it seems an easy play....start killing off the ones that don't post...take your chances...at least then we may find out something by who goes and then start with the ones that post...it just seems very unfair to kill off someone that is at least trying to play the game...although I'm not saying I'm voting for Quig I don't remember his situation for not playing much...but he's not the only one....there's many...Manic...and Billyman although I thought I saw him in the last day...not sure.... and Mo1ey...Hammer get your man in here...cause I think he needs to participate and play his role.



1. perfectly logical
2. why vote when im not sure ?
3. or would it be a big msitake because dotleo is mafia and it would show axeman as a consiritor
4  good point
5. why are you trying to cast the spotlight off youeslf and onto hammer and I ?
6. you know you are ?? why then try to blame others

I think you may have someting to hide but I still have no proof so will refrain from voting
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 27, 2006, 11:44:24 AM
so you are saying afroboy could be defending me because he feels I'm going to die anyway...and
he knows I'm innoncent so it gives him an out? Can I cuss now!


No where in my post did it say that ???

Hmmm
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 27, 2006, 12:18:30 PM
This is madness, I didn't defend bluestars fully, she said that before and now she is saying i am defending her because i am mafia trying to be off the list but I'm innocent, please believe this and give me until the next day and then if the cop does investigate me in the night he can prove my innocence, why else would i beg someone who can find out what i am to do that??
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 27, 2006, 12:29:40 PM
This is madness, I didn't defend bluestars fully, she said that before and now she is saying i am defending her because i am mafia trying to be off the list but I'm innocent, please believe this and give me until the next day and then if the cop does investigate me in the night he can prove my innocence, why else would i beg someone who can find out what i am to do that??

We don't even know for certain that he have a cop and he might want to investigate someone else anyway. Him proving your innocence would mean for him to come forward anyway which isn't good for the Town this early anyway.

We have the speculation and the evidence that everyone has said, some may be right, some may be wrong but other than that we don't have much else. On the plus side some of these lynchs should give us some information on the others involved.
I'm not so sure about all of this anymore and need a think. Glad I am not King today as this is some tough choices, but hopefully the Kingmaker will get the hint now and make either Moley or Me tomorrows King. People like Currieman though are good choices.

Remember to actually make a choice Currie, by 5 because I think the rules are that you will execute yourself if you don't make a choice.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 27, 2006, 01:09:08 PM
I'm really not sure who to go with.

Bluestars has started defending herself in a mafia like way. Afroboy is now saying "Oh please Mr Cop, investigate me and then claim your role and say that I'm innocent". If that happens then the mafia will know who the cop is and if it doesn't happen then everyone thinks Afro is innocent.
Billyman just isn't posting.
Yorkshire is posting but is still suspicious for me because of his quick lynch yesterday.

I'm really not sure but I think it's gonna be either Bluestars or Afroboy now because both seem to be claiming their innocence too much in my eyes.

I'll make my decision by 5
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 27, 2006, 02:02:35 PM
Yes the ol Im innocent so you lot are fools to vote for me lark. Doesnt work on me my vote sticks
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 27, 2006, 04:21:52 PM
The tension rises, the Kings decision awaits and soon one of us will walk forward to the chopping block,but whom will it be........

Any last thoughts from anyone before the decision is made?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 27, 2006, 04:52:36 PM
Right, I've made my decision.

I'm going to Execute Bluestars

My reasons being:

1. She slipped up saying "I'm not anti-assassin"
2. She has started defending herself more which is a mafia sign
3. She had 5 votes which was the most of all the people on my list
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Night Two
Post by: hippo on October 27, 2006, 05:07:13 PM
The town all turn to face bluestarsneyes, upon hearing the king's decision. People swarm and raise her above their heads and carry her off to the execution square. She, like others before her, pleads her innocence, but it falls on deaf ears. The mob want retribution for the death of their king, and 2 innocents, and they intend to get it. She pleads innocence til the bitter end, but is executed all the same. "What was she?" someone from the crowded town shouts, and everyone awaits the answer. The executioner searches her, and finds nothing to suggest any evil. "It's another ordinary townie", it is announced and the mood sinks. Everybody retreats to their homes to face the night, filled with fear.

The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One
Bluestarsneyes, Townie: Executed on Day Two

IT IS NOW NIGHT TWO. THOSE WITH NIGHT ACTIONS ARE NOW PERMITTED TO USE THEM. DAY THREE WILL BEGIN ON MONDAY.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: hippo on October 29, 2006, 01:14:46 PM
As the new day dawns upon the kingdom, people get ready for the new day. An air of almost optimism fills the town as they all are now focused upon avenging the deaths and rooting out the assassins. They all congregate in the centre of town, ready to shout at each other about hunches they have. They all look around and realise that somebody isn't there. "Where is he?" one asks, "don't worry" another replies, "he'll be playing footy manager". They look relieved and go off to fetch him, but the smiling face has turned to one of terror as the individual returns. "It's hammer... he's d..d.. d...... dead". The town take a deep breath, fearful that they could be next. "What was he?" someone inquires.

"He was a mason.. just like he said.. we've lost another"

"This is a tragedy" it is declared, "we must be swift in our retribution, we must eliminate an assassin today. The kingmaker has spoken, we will today be lead by Billyman. Good Luck"


The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One
Bluestarsneyes, Townie: Executed on Day Two
Sir Hammer, Mason: Shot on Night Two

Players Alive
Afroboy
Amadjin
Billyman
ChurchofHalo
Currieman
Dotleo
Fozza
Happy Axeman
Laserblue
Manic
Mo1ey UK
Steve Van Halen
The Quigmaster
Yorkshireblue

IT IS NOW DAY THREE.


Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 29, 2006, 01:33:13 PM
As you find my dead body you see I have left one last message wrote with my own bloody remains and guts.

s   o   r   ry  go o d l uck        go t o wn        it w a s  (unintelligble scribbling) who  ki l l e d me      .


Someone looks closer and remarks that I have cleverly used a kidney as a full stop, but someone points out that it could have just fell out like that anyway.

 :fromthegrave:

:fyou:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on October 29, 2006, 01:55:49 PM
I'm KING >:D hehehe! ok lets find the b'tards who are killing of my fellow townies.

currieman - fetch me my slippers

manic - get me my pipe, this could take a while ;)

not sure 100% on king rules yet gonna go n read up now ;)

going back on past posts, dotleo seems to be under a lot of suspicion

afroboy, moley ,bluestars and manic were all named by hammer before his somewhat unfortunate departure please explain yerselves  ::)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 29, 2006, 03:01:52 PM
ok nice one whoever didnt protect him.... fyou

bill.....moley was mentioned because he was hammers other mason...lol,bluestars is dead...and was an innocent

Vote: the king for being a dipshit...lol
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 29, 2006, 03:04:21 PM
fyou was supposed to be a smiley...but it didnt work obviously..lol
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on October 29, 2006, 03:15:27 PM
ok my mistake :laugh:

it leaves afroboy and manic as my chief suspects then. cmon lads defend thy self ;)

and now amadjin is on my list for treason HOW DARE YOU CALL THE KING A DIPSHIT >:D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: fozza gump zzz on October 29, 2006, 03:36:48 PM
ok it looks like we're just killing townies here. its silly. we need to think long and hard about this. personally i wouldn't have gone for blue stars i would have gone for Dotleo but thats just my opinion.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 29, 2006, 04:55:13 PM
ok it looks like we're just killing townies here. its silly. we need to think long and hard about this. personally i wouldn't have gone for blue stars i would have gone for Dotleo but thats just my opinion.
Well you should've fucking said something! ::)
I gave about 3 hours on Day 2 before the execution for someone to shout "I think bla bla bla is guilty" but nobody said anything so I went with my gut.

I got it wrong but there was a lot of stuff making her look guilty.

Today I think we need to really push hard on people and see if they slip up. Therefore I'm gonna Vote Manic because he hasn't been on. Explain yourself!
Vote Quig[/i]. He was a suspect before he went on holiday and I want him to explain himself as well
Vote Dotleo If Axeman is telling the truth then he's obviously innocent but if Axeman is lying then he's guilty
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 29, 2006, 06:04:59 PM
right i think its time i started making a more telling contribution, so the body count is on 4 and no sign of an assassin :-\ so explain to me billy, why you feel im suspect, is it because  i have not made a great contribution so far, but hey neither have you, so now your king and want to play now as you have the chance to kill another townie off you assassin
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 29, 2006, 06:37:49 PM
That be a bold claim manic (both literally and in the type font)

Care to back that up with some evidence or just your opinion? either way its a big claim (both literally and in the font type) and I for one would like to hear more from you on why you have accused Billyman.

Everyone is still a suspect to me as we have yet to succesfully find the right target in two attempts and

Now Der Hammers dead do we have to come up with new rules ??? :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 29, 2006, 06:51:48 PM
it was just tongue in cheek as he accused me when i have barely posted so to be honest it would be impossible to pick up on any thing i said whether i am guilty/innocent.  i just found it bizarre when he has hardly posted either ;)

because hammer is dead, i think its safe to assume moley is innocent after hammer doing his role claim that he and moley were masons. but with all the assassins still at large it is going to be difficult to root them out :-\
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on October 29, 2006, 07:08:38 PM
manic.....i asked you to explain yerself because before hammer was killed of he named some peeps you being one of them.

manic.......named by hammer, calling the king an assassin ::)
dotleo......other peeps favourite, needs to defend himself.
amadjin.....bad mouthing the king ::)
afroboy.....named by hammer. needs to defend himself, slightly better than manic has so far :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 29, 2006, 07:13:46 PM
what do you want me to say ???, all im saying is that i have not posted as much as i should have.  this was mainly due to fact when it first started my  broadband was down and when i finally got on there was 9 or more pages to wade through, so to be honest it has took me while to get to grips with this game, but i feel its time i started to help and try help out.   ::)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on October 30, 2006, 07:05:48 AM
help us out :D

thx ;)

how?

 :laugh: :laugh:u gonna jump from a bridge or something :laugh: :laugh:

cheers manic, thats the type of thing im on about, you are now officialy earing on the side of the good, only marginally though :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: dotLeo on October 30, 2006, 10:10:40 AM
don't be silly.  I am not a people's favourite.  Billyman has just been lame keeping up to date and picked up on the fact that I had been been under suspision before Axeman cleared me.  Fozza obviously is the same.  Keep up boys..

If you need a reminder I suggest you take a look from the start of page 23.  As king, Billyman, I would expect that you would take the time to get up to date, but judging on previous games who knows whether you will or not.

Bad luck Hammer btw.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 30, 2006, 12:10:09 PM
Bad luck Hammer btw.

the way in which this seems to have been said makes me think he did the deed
vote:dotleo
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: MOLEYman on October 30, 2006, 12:31:26 PM
I

afroboy, moley ,bluestars and manic were all named by hammer before his somewhat unfortunate departure please explain yerselves  ::)

I was named as hammer as a fellow mason which he knew

therefore I am DEFINATLY A TOWNIE

I suspect that manic may have had something to do with his demise as he seems quiet  ;)

also dotleo tried to turn the spotlight onto me and hammer from himself and axeman

so

Vote dotleo
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 30, 2006, 01:08:49 PM
:yawn: like ive said a million times already, Dotleo is innocent.  ::)

Anyone voting for Dotleo is a wasted vote and we will be yet another townie down.

VOTE Amadjin because he i'm sure he knows Dotleo to be innocent, but wants the easy lynch as most people suspect him.
VOTE Fozza same as amadjin.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on October 30, 2006, 01:16:24 PM
ok so

townie's

happy axeman
dotleo
moley uk

although any of these could of been recruited by d baddies since the last day!

suspicious

amadjin
fozza
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: hippo on October 30, 2006, 01:23:45 PM
DO NOT EDIT POSTS. YOU AREN'T GOING TO DIE THIS TIME AS IT'S YOUR FIRST GAME. BUT NEXT PERSON TO DO IT WILL, REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME YOU HAVE.

Vote Count
dotLeo: Currieman, Amadjin, Mo1ey (3)
Amadjin: Happy Axeman (1)
Fozza: Happy Axeman (1)
Quig: Currieman (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 30, 2006, 02:10:03 PM
VOTE: Happy Axeman i dont know if your lying....Unvote: dotleo but im willing to see if your innocent,and theres only 2 ways to find out

1) the cop investigates you and tells us his findings (not a clever option..too early,if we have a cop,i dont want to lose him over one investigation)
2) the king lynches you and we find out that way (again not a clever option,specially seeing as if its wrong we're yet another innocent down)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 30, 2006, 02:11:48 PM
and from that list you got there bill,your definitly gonna lose another townie the way your goin...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 30, 2006, 02:15:31 PM
DO NOT EDIT POSTS. YOU AREN'T GOING TO DIE THIS TIME AS IT'S YOUR FIRST GAME. BUT NEXT PERSON TO DO IT WILL, REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME YOU HAVE.


ohhhh, your hard

___________________ ___________________ ____

ohhh, you're dead. Stay dead.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 30, 2006, 02:33:03 PM
I'm dead!!!! Yeah my boss will be so happy that I'm actually going to do some freaking work now!
Thanks for letting me play....It was a riot!!!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 30, 2006, 03:33:35 PM
Unvote Dotleo He's obviously a townie if Axeman investigated him (or whatever action he said it was) so I'll take him off the list.

However, what if they're lying
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 30, 2006, 04:06:39 PM
Please listen up king, if there is anything you have that you think i am suspicious for, tell me and i will clear it up. I was forced to tell my innocence because of threat i would die yesterday.

Afroboy-------------------  INNOCENT 0% ( :Dbelieve me :pray:)
Amadjin-------------------could be mafia, he hasnt really had much to say about the people who were shot but i could say that for a few, hands out votes like mad 75%
Billyman------------------- INNOCENT 0% i dont no what would happen if i said anything else :death: lol
ChurchofHalo------------I think he is innocent 30%
Currieman----------------this one is tricky although when he was king he did act like a townie 50%
Dotleo--------------------- INNOCENT 0%
Fozza-----------------------i have a suspision he could be mafia 75%
Happy Axeman--------- INNOCENT 0%
Laserblue-----------------not so sure about, doesn't seem to give away much at all to whether he innocent or not 60%
Manic----------------------again don't realy no much although i think he is pretty innocent 45%
Mo1ey UK---------------- INNOCENT 0%
Steve Van Halen-------unvote SVH 45%  I think he is possibly innocent at the moment.
The Quigmaster-------- can someone tell me if he's back from his holiday yet? if he's not then i'm not so sure but if he is he is 80%, i think he is mafia votequigmaster
Yorkshireblue-----------65%  I'm suspicious about yorkshire

So the suspision list is:

quigmaster  80%
amadjin  75%
fozza  75%
yorkshire  65%
laserblue 60%
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 30, 2006, 06:07:28 PM
go ahead,think me suspicious,we're gonna lose this one,i can feel it
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 30, 2006, 06:11:29 PM
i think the mafia are staying quiet so not to draw attention,and hey look,its workin...

VOTE:Churchy,Manic,SVH Quigmaster and Yorkshire
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on October 30, 2006, 06:23:53 PM
always seem to rash in handing votes out amadjin, you send more votes out than the refs give cards to billy in pes :P total random voting with no logical explanation.  talk about shooting in the dark.  VOTEAMADJIN really bad assassin at work lol
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 30, 2006, 06:28:16 PM
no its called a townie panicking because i think theres 4-5 assassins and only 7-8 townsfolk,we are pretty close to a white wash,and yes its shooting in the dark because the assassins(i think your included) are not saying anything and because im actually trying to contribute,the assassins are eager to jump at me
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 30, 2006, 06:34:15 PM
I say quigmaster should go this time, also i've changed my min on churchy im not so sure about him and he could be mafia but amadjin is wrong to vote for him because he has stayed quiet because he hasn't been that silent, so no commotion starts what i just said is

ive changed my mind on what i think about churchy.

although he is suspicious he does post a decent amount so its rong to vote for hiom for that reason(amadjin).

I am doing this so no one trys to stir it up and say i am mafia because i changed my mind on somebody.
 

(to what amadjin just posted)
Good shout, i still say this could be a cunning plan so it makes people think your a townie but thinking about it you have been acting quite townish (if thats a word) so i say the mafia are now

Quigmmaster
Fozza
Yorkshire
Manic
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 30, 2006, 06:40:10 PM
judgin by how many times you said it i can gather youve changed your mind on churchy lol,he's been one of the quieter ones,thats the reason i voted for him,i know it seems stupid but i think the king should take a pot shot today,cos if he goes for one of us posting at the moment(manic excluded),itl lead to his downfall and ultimately ours
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 30, 2006, 06:50:04 PM
Yes, I think that would be a good idea but i think the king should have some sort of i dea why they pick them though, not just a random pick out of nowhere, my choice today would be quigmaster but its not up to me.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 30, 2006, 07:05:09 PM
i would have said quig on day 1 and have been saying that...his absence has made everyone forget about him...
vote: quig
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 30, 2006, 08:46:56 PM
i think the mafia are staying quiet so not to draw attention,and hey look,its workin...

VOTE:Churchy,Manic,SVH Quigmaster and Yorkshire

I have already posted on this "day", you have missed the person who has been most quiet of all recently Laserblue, odd that you missed his name off the list when he has posted least recently :hmmm:

Perhaps you deliberatly ommited his name.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 30, 2006, 09:07:29 PM
Yes tis true I have been missing today ;D

But I have been very busy giving my opinions etc up until now, just been busy at work thats all..........anyway where is Quig  ??? still on his hols ???
& I see Manic has now decided to join us at last :D

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 30, 2006, 09:13:26 PM
yes cos im secretly an assassin whos doin everything in his power to help the town,makes total sense doesnt it...yeah i thought not....i thought he posted earlier on today,thats why i he wasnt on my list,im guessin by your comments he hasnt...so il add him
Vote: Laser

(he posted during this,typically as soon as ones name is mentioned)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 30, 2006, 09:57:45 PM
yes cos im secretly an assassin whos doin everything in his power to help the town,makes total sense doesnt it...yeah i thought not....i thought he posted earlier on today,thats why i he wasnt on my list,im guessin by your comments he hasnt...so il add him
Vote: Laser

(he posted during this,typically as soon as ones name is mentioned)

No offence but what you just posted in utter crap.

Assassins have to look like they are trying to help the town or it would be obvious who they were :doh: so you acting like you are trying to help the town could all be an act to give the illusion you are a townie.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 30, 2006, 10:23:14 PM
haha im a tit,shows what happens when i dont think thoroughly,lets just clear up that i aint an assassin,and killin me would mean we're one step away from losing,cos thanks to some kings and a few well placed assassin or vigilante the numbers are close to even i would think
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: hippo on October 31, 2006, 08:20:54 AM
Vote Count
dotLeo: Currieman, Mo1ey (2)
Amadjin: Happy Axeman, Manic (2)
Fozza: Happy Axeman (1)
Happy Axeman: Amadjin (1)
The Quigmaster: Afroboy, Amadjin, Currieman (3)
ChurchofHalo: Amadjin (1)
Manic: Amadjin (1)
Yorkshireblue: Amadjin (1)
Steve Van Halen: Amadjin (1)
Laserblue: Amadjin (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 31, 2006, 10:28:44 AM
I don't understand this list is there a Quig & and a Quigmaster, I thought they were the same person ???


___________________ ___________________ _____

Sorry, my mistake. It has been changed.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 31, 2006, 04:22:09 PM
Please listen up king, if there is anything you have that you think i am suspicious for, tell me and i will clear it up. I was forced to tell my innocence because of threat i would die yesterday.

Afroboy-------------------  INNOCENT 0% ( :Dbelieve me :pray:)
Amadjin-------------------could be mafia, he hasnt really had much to say about the people who were shot but i could say that for a few, hands out votes like mad 75%
Billyman------------------- INNOCENT 0% i dont no what would happen if i said anything else :death: lol
ChurchofHalo------------I think he is innocent 30%
Currieman----------------this one is tricky although when he was king he did act like a townie 50%
Dotleo--------------------- INNOCENT 0%
Fozza-----------------------i have a suspision he could be mafia 75%
Happy Axeman--------- INNOCENT 0%
Laserblue-----------------not so sure about, doesn't seem to give away much at all to whether he innocent or not 60%
Manic----------------------again don't realy no much although i think he is pretty innocent 45%
Mo1ey UK---------------- INNOCENT 0%
Steve Van Halen-------unvote SVH 45%  I think he is possibly innocent at the moment.
The Quigmaster-------- can someone tell me if he's back from his holiday yet? if he's not then i'm not so sure but if he is he is 80%, i think he is mafia votequigmaster
Yorkshireblue-----------65%  I'm suspicious about yorkshire

So the suspision list is:

quigmaster  80%
amadjin  75%
fozza  75%
yorkshire  65%
laserblue 60%
somebody said before if bluestars was innocent then afroboy was mafia and here he is once again saying hes innocent y does he do this so often. how can u have quiqmaster 80% evil your got nothing on him hes on holiday and hasnt posted for a week.
billyman 0% u only saying that cos hes king and u dont want to be killed so your sucking up to king.
the line on currieman what does that mean makes no sense. the rest is crap wheres evidence on the others and me to be 60% evil and above.
the line on laser u put sounds innocent to me u got him 60%

i think afroboy is evil
vote afroboy
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 31, 2006, 05:29:48 PM
I think I've got it.... Yorkshire blue & Quigmaster are evil

Quote by Yorkshire

"somebody said before if bluestars was innocent then afroboy was mafia and here he is once again saying hes innocent y does he do this so often. how can u have quiqmaster 80% evil your got nothing on him hes on holiday and hasnt posted for a week.
billyman 0% u only saying that cos hes king and u dont want to be killed so your sucking up to king.
the line on currieman what does that mean makes no sense. the rest is crap wheres evidence on the others and me to be 60% evil and above."


Yorkshire knows full well that what Hammer said was if Bluestars is guilty then so is Afroboy
He has twisted Hammers words to deflect attention from his evil buddy Quig
he also points out yet again Quig is on hol & conviniently can't defend himself well before he went on hol he was not saying much either.

I'm certain it must be them two & Yorkshire killed Tommy off with indecent haste as well
I'm sure I've sussed it out it must be them.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 31, 2006, 06:01:14 PM
king can we have a comment or two please?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: laserblue on October 31, 2006, 06:07:18 PM
Yeh.........Where is the king  ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 31, 2006, 06:18:02 PM
i dont need a parrot matey ooh arrrgh (flashbacks of churchy lol)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on October 31, 2006, 06:35:11 PM
sorry lads, been on xbox all day :D

i have been popping over and keeping an eye every now and again and im basically waiting for peeps who have been accused to defend themselves.

i do have a shortlist in mind but would rather keep it close to my chest for now, there may be spies about us :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 31, 2006, 06:44:02 PM
yeah bill your comment is rather useful...lol,im gonna look back now and find some dodgy stuff hopefully
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 31, 2006, 07:16:34 PM
i got a feeling on SVH like iv been saying for a while,still got it.he never posts about anything of importance,and im fed up of his irrelevant posts

Hippo said that the king is dead? Currieman is the king!

Actually thats false, everyone knows that Eric Cantona is king
Theres one ^^
All aboard the bandwagon!!!
heres a mafiesque style post

and speaking of dodgy
thats enough for my vote

Jokes aside, i'm not so sure on Hammy anymore. I think he is just being annoying now over being evil. Steve Van Halen seems to be trying to get people killed for their nationally, which is racist. Normally it seems that the people who joke around are mafia.

in bold,slip up?

I wasnt online yesterday because I had Uni then I was out on the piss before the game. How the hell did Rep Ire lose 5-2 to those shysters?!

4 pages since I was last on here, crazy. Let me read some of those first before you lynch me

again a crap post and asking not to be lynched,yet didnt follow up with anything of importance,a growing trend from mr svh...

unvote everyone i have voted-Vote:SVH and Quigmaster
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on October 31, 2006, 08:06:41 PM
Id like to apologise for my absence but i have been busy these last few days.

I will make a decent post tommorow.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on October 31, 2006, 08:54:22 PM
Not much happened today, just checking in really  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on October 31, 2006, 10:54:39 PM
iv seen 3-4 identical posts saying that from you svh,and none of them have been followed up..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 01, 2006, 03:34:11 PM
Well here it is. actually I have a bit of work to do so I wont be reading all of the last few pages of posts.

So you dont like that I post every now and then due to me actually being busy? Sorry pal, not all of us are on half term or unemployed! Nothing much happens in the first few days but you seem to be trying to start a bandwagon against me. I have done nothing suspiscous yet you single me out. Why is this? Do you honestly think that I am mafia?

And about those irrellavant posts. Il post just to let people know Im still here but I wont accuse someone for the sake of it like you do and change my mind every other post. I will post if I think that someone has said something suspiscous or is starting a bandwagon though, I find those people more suspiscous than anyone else. From experience in past mafia games you try to start bandwagons so that you dont have to do the dirty work yourself in the night.

Cant help but be suspiscous of you now but Im not going to joke votes around like some other people in this game.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on November 01, 2006, 03:59:24 PM
ok.

if no-one is going to put forward any arguments or thoughts then i will be forced to end the day.

at the mo i believe the probable innocent to be


currieman
dotleo
axeman

the rest of you better start worrying :laugh:

defend yerselves convincingly and i shall allow you to live ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on November 01, 2006, 04:00:52 PM
sorry add the ex king yorkshire blue to tyhe innocent list ;)

yorkshire blue
currieman
dotleo
axeman
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 01, 2006, 04:16:26 PM
@SVH finally someone is beginning to see Amadjin like i am currently seeing him. my instincts are believing that you are an innocent townie.

I believe him(Amadjin) to consistantly be one of the most suspicious persons in this game with his posting, and has been since we started in day 1.

I would also add Afroboy too, I get a feeling he and Amadjin could be working together.

Why would an assasin kill Der Hammer? a mason is pretty much useless apart from being able to talk to his fellow mason during the night phase. so killing him doesnt make much sense unless they feared Hammer was onto something.  ???

Ive already voted Amadjin, and Will now VOTE AFROBOY too.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 01, 2006, 04:21:19 PM
From experience in past mafia games you try to start bandwagons so that you dont have to do the dirty work yourself in the night.

and when exactly have i done this?
Why would an assasin kill Der Hammer? a mason is pretty much useless apart from being able to talk to his fellow mason during the night phase. so killing him doesnt make much sense unless they feared Hammer was onto something.  ???

i reckon he was onto something,look at who he voted for...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 01, 2006, 04:23:30 PM
happy(if your indeed innocent) you trying to covince everyone theres something fishy about my posting is gonna lead to our downfall.(our meaning town before anyone twists my words)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 01, 2006, 04:26:22 PM
No that just convinced me.

Vote Amadjin

You have tried to start a bandwagon against me and it hasnt worked. Instead when someone else agrees with me you go straight on the defensive. Those that defend themselves straight away to me are the most suspiscous of all.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on November 01, 2006, 04:32:55 PM
is that............... .................ca n i hear............... ................... ...........could it be...............

................... ....is that the deathmarch i hear? :laugh: :laugh:

its a slow long walk amadjin, i aint 100% convinced though(about 80%), i dont want to let us down by picking a fellow townie so i aint goner make any rash descions. but if my public choose then i may have to act 8)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 01, 2006, 04:37:35 PM
happy(if your indeed innocent) you trying to covince everyone theres something fishy about my posting is gonna lead to our downfall.(our meaning town before anyone twists my words)
I'm not trying to convince anyone, all i've done is say who i think is most suspicious without the aid of quotes(until this one.)  :laugh: and then allowed you to babble on with feeble counter claims and expressions of innocence. your the one doing the Convincing by the way you react.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 01, 2006, 04:45:56 PM
Realised I have'nt voted for anyone but hen again not much has happened.

I voted for him last game and he has done nothing to make me change my mind.

Vote:Afroboy
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: hippo on November 01, 2006, 04:56:52 PM
Vote Count
dotLeo: Mo1ey (1)
Amadjin: Happy Axeman, Manic, Steve Van Halen, The quigmaster (4)
Fozza: Happy Axeman (1)
The Quigmaster: Afroboy, Amadjin, Currieman (3)
Steve Van Halen: Amadjin (1)
Afroboy: Yorkshireblue, Happy Axeman, ChurchofHalo (3)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Quig on November 01, 2006, 05:26:51 PM
Hello folks. I'm saddened to see that my brother has died. I intend to avenge him. Its hard to read Curriemans posts due to his avatar. Vote: Admadjjin for his rash decisions and suspect behavior. I'm secondly suspisus of Laserblue as he is just tryiing to link me and york together just because he meantioned that I was on holiday so I don't get lurker killed.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 01, 2006, 05:46:12 PM
I think Fozza is quite suspicious at the moment because he doesn't seem to post very much and when he does he doesn't really add very much.

Also, if Hammer was on to something then surely Bluestars would've been guilty but she wasn't. Therefore is it right to say that Afroboy will also be innocent or could he infact be guilty?

Mo1ey I'm 99% certain is a townie because Hammer was obviously a mason and there has been no counterclaim saying that they aren't masons so Mo1ey is all but cleared.

Yorkshire still doesn't cut the innocent act with me. His execution of Tommy was rash and very hasty and I just think he's sitting back watching people fight and then voting when the time is right.

There's also Churchy who doesn't seem very suspicious to me but doesn't post very much either. I'm not sure whether he's just not posting much or is trying to hide something.

As for Amadjin and SVH, I'm not sure about either of them. Amadjin just seems to be playing a dodgy game and, in my eyes, is looking guiltier with every post but SVH is also looking suspicious.
Is it possible that they're working together and arguing to make it look like they're not working together?

Anyone that I haven't mentioned hasn't really made me that suspicious so far.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 01, 2006, 06:00:20 PM
No thats just ridiculous! Im not sure what Ive done to look suspicous but i can assure you that I am part of the town. Like I said Im suspicous of anyone trying to start a bandwagon hence my vote for Amadjin.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on November 01, 2006, 07:24:38 PM
BANDWAGON ??? SVH you have one vote from amadjin, that is no bandwagon.

the people who currently do havve a bandwagon are me for some unkown weird reason, amadjin for posting too much of his opinion and for changing his mind which i did once and hammer was soon to pounce on and quigmaster for his absence, i will have to see what he does from now cos he hasnt been able to say much which could be a cover up to put him in the clear.

King, give me one reason currieman and yorkshire are on your innocent list, do you know something we don't??  although i think currieman could be innocent.

one of SVH or amadjin is guilty i think, they are both fighting to be innocent.

churchy i think could be geting away with a lot here, he seems to be in everyones good books.

top of suspision list are:

yorkshire
church
svh
quigmaster

also who is the hidden guy ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 01, 2006, 07:26:54 PM
that hidden guy would be sir hammer ;) me thinks anyway
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on November 01, 2006, 07:36:44 PM
yeh probably :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 01, 2006, 07:40:43 PM

churchy i think could be geting away with a lot here, he seems to be in everyones good books.


Not really I, sure I have'nt had loads of vote but neither have other players and these lists people making listing percentages are 100% crap and most of the time posted by the person so they can guage peoples reactions from the way they react to them very rarely are they actually want people think.


Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 02, 2006, 02:07:58 AM
you are making another mistake ya dipshits...nice to see quig appear out of the blue and jump on the bandwaggon

investigate me,im just a normal townie with kings potential,do you guys not realise how close to defeat we are?bill if you execute me,itl be your death march soon after...and every other townie because we are heading down the slippery slope,will at least one king do something right please?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 02, 2006, 09:27:47 AM
Afroboy - I said that Amadjin had tried to start a bandwagon not that he had started one!!

Amadjin your actions have made you a suspect therefore Im willing to take that risk unless you prove otherwise
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on November 02, 2006, 09:29:02 AM
well if you are innocent (im still not pursuaded either way) then i have to look at who has been targeting you dont i >:D

axeman
manic
svh
quigg

mmm! i think axeman is innocent, not sure about the other 3 though ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 02, 2006, 01:29:31 PM
good day everyone. havent been on in a while. had an abcess in my tooth n its been painful. just about recovering now so thought i'd make the effort to come online and read through all the posts. seems like amadjin is digging his own grave.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 02, 2006, 04:53:25 PM
nah i got assassins doin it for me
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 02, 2006, 09:15:14 PM
lol what has an abcess in your mouth got to do with typing?!

Only joking, had one when I was a kid in my mouth. Almost ruined my xmas dinner but it healed in time.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 02, 2006, 10:24:48 PM
its gone dead again...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: hippo on November 03, 2006, 12:07:00 AM
Vote Count
dotLeo: Mo1ey (1)
Amadjin: Happy Axeman, Manic, Steve Van Halen, The quigmaster (4)
Fozza: Happy Axeman (1)
The Quigmaster: Afroboy, Amadjin, Currieman (3)
Steve Van Halen: Amadjin (1)
Afroboy: Yorkshireblue, Happy Axeman, ChurchofHalo (3)

The deadline for the king's decision is Monday, 5pm.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: hippo on November 03, 2006, 02:42:11 PM
Posting IS a required part of this game..
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on November 03, 2006, 02:57:24 PM
WELL it's between

amadjin
afroboy
and quigg

i really cant decide.

let me read back in some posts and make a decsion.

in the meen time if anyone can help or you lads defend yerselves in anyway that would be great.

decsion as soon as poss ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 03, 2006, 05:07:02 PM
i think iv done enough defending...lol
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 03, 2006, 06:30:22 PM
Not much has happened in two days. Need to hear from the other players.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 03, 2006, 07:03:54 PM
Nothing significant has happened since Billy became king.

The people most suspicious to me at the moment are Quigmaster and Afroboy. Quig because he doesn't post much and Afroboy because of a gut feeling
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: Sir Villain on November 03, 2006, 07:22:29 PM
sigh, and this is what happens when the mafia kill everyone who posts.... >:(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 03, 2006, 07:24:54 PM
im the one posting a lot now,says a lot dont it...lol,nobodies posting because nobody is accusing or being accused.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Three, KING: BILLYMAN
Post by: billyman on November 03, 2006, 07:43:46 PM
OK TO GET THE DAY TO END ::)

EXECUTE : THE QUIGMASTER

It came down to 3 people, and after reading back in the posts i narrowed it down to afroboy and quigg, i dont think amadjin is mafia its just that people seem to like to pick on him, so after much deliberation i had a 50/50 choice, you lot aint been much use ::)

have a nice death quigg ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Night Three
Post by: hippo on November 03, 2006, 07:59:13 PM
The king's order is given, and those of the town alert enough drag him off to be executed. He is heard to protest his innocence but nobody listens. Once again, the town watch with high anticipation as the executioner performs his duty and the quigmaster is put to death. "Search the body" someone from the crowd shouts, "shouldn't we do that before we execute?" one asks, and the town mumble between each other as they have done all day. "Erm, there's nothing on him... another townie dead - what are you playing at?". The town stare at their feet, feeling miserable. They retreat to their homes to face the night, wondering who'll emerge for the morning.

The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One
Bluestarsneyes, Townie: Executed on Day Two
Sir Hammer, Mason: Shot on Night Two
The Quigmaster, Townie: Executed on Day Three

IT IS NOW NIGHT THREE. THOSE WITH NIGHT ACTIONS ARE NOW PERMITTED TO USE THEM. THE DEADLINE FOR THEM IS MONDAY 5PM, WHEN THE DAY WILL START. OR SOONER IF POSSIBLE.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: hippo on November 06, 2006, 09:29:27 AM
As the sun rises over Solomonia, the town emerge, fearful of what they might find - or rather, who they might not find. As they gather for the day ahead it becomes clear that one of their suspects is not there. dotLeo has not emerged for the morning, which causes bemusement. A search party is sent to his house, where they find him lying on his floor with a bullet through his head. The party shudder at the sight, but search his body to find any clues; they find no evidence to suggest he was anything other than a normal townie, and quickly rush back to the group with their news. Tears are shed, before the mourning turns to a mood of vengeance. "Today is the day we fight back" one declares, "and the person chosen to lead us shall be Happy Axeman."

The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One
Bluestarsneyes, Townie: Executed on Day Two
Sir Hammer, Mason: Shot on Night Two
The Quigmaster, Townie: Executed on Day Three
dotLeo, Townie: Shot on Night Three

Players Alive
Afroboy
Amadjin
Billyman
ChurchofHalo
Currieman
Fozza
Happy Axeman
Laserblue
Manic
Mo1ey UK
Steve Van Halen
Yorkshireblue

IT IS NOW DAY FOUR.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: billyman on November 06, 2006, 09:41:32 AM
You have to be kidding :o

two bloody dead :'(

ok, who pointed the finger at quigg?

afro amadjin and currieman


well played amadjin, you convinced me that you were a townie, but no more boyo

vote: amadjin

darn you, you S.O.B >:D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 06, 2006, 10:01:49 AM
That was kind of sucky wasnt it? Means that we are against the odds like the last game. Im going to carry on from yesterday as I am convinced that Amadjin is working suspiscously behind the scenes for Mafia.

Vote Amadjin

Prove otherwise mate or your for it
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 06, 2006, 10:52:13 AM
Got to agree with billyman here, I thought Amadjin was just irritating and his posts were odd rather than suspiscous but it looks like he ahs been playing us.

However it looks a little obvious and a bit stupid of Amadjin.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 06, 2006, 11:00:43 AM
Surely if Amadjin was mafia he would've gone after SVH as he was arguing with him for quite a while yesterday.

I don't think that Amadjin is mafia but I am now very cautious about Afroboy and Yorkshire as I think that atleast 1 of them is mafia
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 06, 2006, 12:48:37 PM
well it goes from bad to worse :( got to say my suspicions are on amadjin, yorkshire at the mo.  amadjin i have always had my suspicions on you and think its time you were brought to justice vote amadjin

like wise with yorkshire, my suspicions run back to the first day when you executed tommy very rashly so therefore vote yorkshireblue
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 06, 2006, 02:42:26 PM
so y dont u vote billyman manic for his rash execution and im innocent killing me wouldnt be a good move
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 06, 2006, 06:07:40 PM
to be honest, i thought quig was evil and thought there was sufficent evidence(and the lack of eveidence on anybody else) to execute him.  billy is not out of my suspicions, infact the only people that i deem to be innocent our moley and our current king axeman.

i could press on about my own innocent, but ffind that people always stating there innocent a bit suspect to my, so will let people make there own minds on myself ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: laserblue on November 06, 2006, 06:48:49 PM
sorry havent posted for a bit....

I thought yorkshire looked sus but then again I thought Quig was guilty cause he was avioding posting, so what do I know .........

I have not got a clue about Amadjin either........sorry not much help there.

Where's Moley at least we know he's innocent(don't we) so  I think it would help if he gave us his thoughts at least we know he's not Mafia trying to get an innocent killed.

I'll keep reading & post when I have something constructive to add

     
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on November 06, 2006, 10:13:10 PM
Hi thought id make an appearanace.

Another 2 dead, whats happening??? I thought quig was guilty too but so did many other people. I had a look through the players alive and tried too narrow it down. I say fozza looks the most suspicious vote fozza i have a feeling he is mafia.

I have been nearly executed twice in a row and i have a feeling we (the town) are going to loose, i think amadjin is innocent but i have a suspiciounover fozza, i think he could be mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: hippo on November 06, 2006, 10:34:17 PM
Vote Count
Amadjin: Billyman, Steve Van Halen, Manic (3)
Yorkshireblue: Manic (1)
Fozza: Afroboy (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 06, 2006, 11:13:39 PM
lol I thought my role didnt allow being king. I mis-read it.  :laugh:

I cant believe we havent got an assassin by now, surely law of averages suggest we would of got one by now? this could mean that one of the previous kings was an assassin.  :-\  ???

whose been king? YorkshireBlue, Currieman, Billyman

I dont think i'll be lynching any of these...
SteveVanHalen - His reactions to accusations suggest he's Innocent.
Amadjin - After being on Amadjins case since the game began, I believe through his posts that he too is innocent.
Moley - Mason with Hammer, Has to be good?

so everyone else is under suspicion and up for lynching...
Manic
Currieman
Laserblue
Fozza
Billyman
ChurchofHalo
Afroboy
YorkshireBlue

I need you to assemble facts, look at trends and the votes and how people voted then dropped it etc. give me something to work on, and i'm sure we will get an evil fooker this time.  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 07, 2006, 02:16:24 AM
hmmm,many quick to jump at me i see,i wasnt the only person who thought quig was guilty,so why the quick voting against me,mafia tryin to sway the king perhaps?

what does everyone think if the cop(if indeed there is one)reveals now,cos we are on the verge of losing,it all depends if he has any investigations with guilty results though,as,if he hasnt there is obviously no point revealing

i think its quite possible that one of the former kings maybe assassin,other than that i aint got a clue,could be anyone
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: MOLEYman on November 07, 2006, 07:42:39 AM
right i was wrong about dotleo and for that I appologise, this also backs up happy axeman as a townie and im happy to know that at least our king is good  ;D

as for mafia, I dont think adamin is mafia, dont know why but I dont get that vibe

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 07, 2006, 08:29:04 AM
who is this adamin you talk of lol
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 07, 2006, 10:05:03 AM
In order for more facts to be assembled Unvote Amadjin just in case we are a bit rash this time. Im still suspicious but we need to get an assassin for certain this time and I dont want a bandwagon to start to soon
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 07, 2006, 05:47:57 PM
so no-one is bothered about routing out the assasins then?

looks like its going to be another wild guess made by the king.  :-\

Ive already mentioned above who i wont be lynching tonight, which leaves 8 people. of them 8 people, i can currently see me lynching anyone of Currieman, Churchy, Afroboy or Fozza... unless they can convince me otherwise and someone tells me why we should be thinking of lynching someone else.  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 07, 2006, 06:27:18 PM
Im quite surprised to come back from Uni to find only one post!!

To be fair not many people have posted suspisciously apart from Amadjin (in my opinion) so we are shooting in the dark here. Doesnt help that there hasnt been many posts
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 07, 2006, 06:51:55 PM
its starting to die out this game, now that the main posters have all been killed off by the assasins not much is going to happen as no-one is really contributing resulting in the king having to speculate on who to kill.  come on peeps get posting >:(

unvoteamadjin if the king, whom i beleive to be innocent thinks he is innocent, then thats enough for me

my vote is staying on yorkshire, but i am also going to votecurrieman and votebillyman i have a gut instinct that some of our previous kings are definately assassins :o
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 07, 2006, 06:52:10 PM
I'm just not sure. We've got to a point where so many townies have been killed that it's becoming hard for us to root out the assassins.

Nobody is posting very much and this is making it harder to see people slipping up. At the moment I can only see YorkshireBlue and Afroboy as suspicious really. Yorkshire because I've been suspicious of him ever since he killed Tommy so hastily and in recent days he hasn't posted with very much that is helping.
Afroboy because of a gut feeling as I just think he posts strangely and is trying to keep himself to himself
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 07, 2006, 07:09:08 PM
so y dont u think billyman was suspicous im suspicous for killing off tommy but billyman isnt
the only people i think are innocent are
me
axeman
moley

i aint been posting alot cos theres not been alot happening so y u saying i dont post alot when alot of other dont post
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 07, 2006, 07:19:22 PM
Billyman had a time constraint like me so I think it's more likely that he is a townie but, you're right, he could be evil, I don't know.

I just thought you were too hasty in killing Tommy but your reaction wasn't to defend yourself outright and instead to try and point out that someone else (almost) did the same thing.

This could mean that you are innocent as, from past experience, people that are evil tend to say that they are innocent really quickly
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: *Afroboy* on November 07, 2006, 08:22:39 PM
King if you are good, dont kill me. thats all i have to say for my defence i will not go on about it.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 08, 2006, 12:34:28 AM
i agree a few main posters have been killed but id say a few are still here and appear to be lurking,i dont know if the kings picked up on it
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 08, 2006, 01:32:44 PM
*sigh...
how the fuck am i supposed to make a decision on who to lynch when no fooker is even attempting to post anything worthwhile, let alone do any form of investigations.

at this rate i'll just be plucking a random name out of a hat.  :-\
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 08, 2006, 04:17:23 PM
Unless anyone can convince me otherwise, i will be Lynching Churchy very soon just to get the game moving again.  :-\ :-X
Here is his entire contribution to the game.... you may wish to click the quote links so you can read them in the full context of the conversations. But through reading back, it just seems to me like he has bobbed and weaved around and generally sat on the fence and generally not really helping the townies...

Am I right or wrong in thinking about lynching Churchy? its upto you...

If only Hagler was playing we could have all had a bye for the first round :D

I come back from my job which some of us actually have and when I get home the first thing I don't want to do is go the computer and explain myself to anyone for actually having a life.

As for Hammers suggestions ultimately they are just useless because the king can just execute whoever he wants, so we can have all these guidelines but that's all they are.

Don't have anything useful to say because nothing has happened really and I am not going to join in with the random paranoia and analysing every word of every post like some people because all that does is force everyone to say nothing.

P.S. That episode of South Park is brilliant.

But that all suposses that your maths is right.

What if there is only 4 or three mafia type players then it decreases.

The first lynch is always random unless someone does something increadibly stupid.

Hammers regulations sound great in practice except the last one.

Suggestion Three-The King may execute a player if there is direct (investigative, most likely) evidence against that person, even if that person has not reached 33% of the votes

IF all thats needed is an investigation then everyone will claim to have investigated people claiming that they are either innocent or guilty depending on thier motivations.

Might need to rethink that one. ;)

Man two days off and 5 pages to wade through and still not much further along, still better to take the time and get it right.

upto page 12...
Not sure everyone should be being quite so paranoid in the first day of the game, all it does is force everyone into thier shells, it too early to make any real assumptions about people because its till the first day.

Currieman has been bit quiet recently despite being online today would like to hear his thoughts

End of day1

Looks like the suspisions of Steven were wrong looks like we might have to reevaluate what ahs been said in light of this :-\

Page 16 and he gets more lively...
It seems Hippo wants conflict but maybe if the king contributed more and started threatening people then others in the game would start posting more and have to defemd themselves hopefully making a mistake.

Where are you King?

What I want is the king to help get people taliing I the game ;)

To help get people talking by using his power and threaten players so we have something to talk about.

I want him to threaten people so they start adding more to the game.

Hammer makes some good points with Quig but would like to hear him explain himself.

then its page 18 when he posts again...
Not if you use the "Dark Theme" ;)

Not keen on the lists of what peoiple think of each other, the more you share the more information people can gain and then they can change how they act to avoid suspision.

I find it odd that Steven Van Halen was accused by Happy but instead of trying to defend himself or even acknowledge it he just ignores it.

Odd  No ???

I think I posted a page or so ago, hard to keep track the way the "days" go in this game.

If you are talking about people lurking there are people who have said less than me.

I think Bluestars made a big mistake in saying what she did but i don't think she is an evil role but nothing is certain.

Hammer made some good points against her but as everyone knows there is more than one way to take peoples action or interpret thier actions and anyonce can talk themselves out of situation if they have the gift of the gab.

So to conclude I'm not actually sure to soon to make any definate conclusions and the only way to be sure is to lynch the person but could be a costly mistake.

Interesting development with Happy and Dotleo, could be an elaborate Assasin ploy but I don't think so but I will keep this though in the back of my mind as the game continues, be stupid not to.

I think happy will end up dead tonight whatever happens, shame as I think he is telling the truth but his ahnd has been forced and the mafia will probably kill him on the off chance he is a cop or the town vigilante role might kill him believing he is a mafia member.  Either weay if he does turn up dead (hopefully not) it would clear the Dotleo situation up completey and we would have our 100% innocent or an assasin.

Quig seems to ahve come in again for some more flak, but he has not said anything much recently that I believe to be worthy of suspision but things change after a night phase you see things in different lights.

Bluestars seems to ahve explained herself quite well and I think people are cutting he some slack as its her first game but was that slip an admission of guilt, I think not but time will tell.


My choice is Afroboy.

Afroboy as he posts says a lot of crap, contradicts himself a couple of times and when people question he dissapears, definatly worthy of as much suspision as anyone and the best target I can see in the current climate.

Vote:Afroboy

No where in my post did it say that ???

Hmmm

end of day 2

That be a bold claim manic (both literally and in the type font)

Care to back that up with some evidence or just your opinion? either way its a big claim (both literally and in the font type) and I for one would like to hear more from you on why you have accused Billyman.

Everyone is still a suspect to me as we have yet to succesfully find the right target in two attempts and

Now Der Hammers dead do we have to come up with new rules ??? :D

I have already posted on this "day", you have missed the person who has been most quiet of all recently Laserblue, odd that you missed his name off the list when he has posted least recently :hmmm:

Perhaps you deliberatly ommited his name.

No offence but what you just posted in utter crap.

Assassins have to look like they are trying to help the town or it would be obvious who they were :doh: so you acting like you are trying to help the town could all be an act to give the illusion you are a townie.


Not much happened today, just checking in really  ;)

Realised I have'nt voted for anyone but hen again not much has happened.

I voted for him last game and he has done nothing to make me change my mind.

Vote:Afroboy

Not really I, sure I have'nt had loads of vote but neither have other players and these lists people making listing percentages are 100% crap and most of the time posted by the person so they can guage peoples reactions from the way they react to them very rarely are they actually want people think.

Not much has happened in two days. Need to hear from the other players.

end of Day 3

Got to agree with billyman here, I thought Amadjin was just irritating and his posts were odd rather than suspiscous but it looks like he ahs been playing us.

However it looks a little obvious and a bit stupid of Amadjin.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 08, 2006, 04:56:27 PM
it would'nt matter who you execute as nobody has really offered any insight to who may be guilty, so basically anybody could be executed.  its just gonna be pot luck, hopefully you will get lucky :pray:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 08, 2006, 05:06:10 PM
as far as my suspects go, there are eight people up for a possible lynching.

if there is just one assassin then i only have a one in 8 chance of getting it right.
if there are two then i have a one in four chance, if there are four then its fifty-fifty....

you should know that I dont get lucky. lol  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 08, 2006, 05:14:42 PM
Great lynched because I hav'nt posted all the time ::)

Bit unfair posting like that as when I have been around to post recently the game has moved slowly, admittedly at the start I was'nt great but I was not in the house much.


I'm sure if you broke down other peoples posting habits then they would have posted or contributed less than me.


You seem to want to lynch me but you have not explained why, you ahve not given any reason or backed up your argument, in fact the only argument is that you are impatient.

I have not sat on the fence for the past three days I have accused and voted for Afroboy to no avail, I think he is the most supsicous person playing. As for not helping the townies our track record for lynched is 100% wrong and I have not thought any of them to be guilty enough to be lynched I wpuld say the people who have accused and lead the attacks on the poeple who ahve been lynched have done more harm to our cause than me nt posting a bit., I am sticking by  my choice of Afroboy.

I urge you to  think before lynching
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 08, 2006, 05:15:47 PM
P.S. nothin have changed my mind Vote:Afroboy
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Two, KING: CURRIEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 08, 2006, 05:37:36 PM
Great lynched because I hav'nt posted all the time ::)

Bit unfair posting like that as when I have been around to post recently the game has moved slowly, admittedly at the start I was'nt great but I was not in the house much.


I'm sure if you broke down other peoples posting habits then they would have posted or contributed less than me.


You seem to want to lynch me but you have not explained why, you ahve not given any reason or backed up your argument, in fact the only argument is that you are impatient.

I have not sat on the fence for the past three days I have accused and voted for Afroboy to no avail, I think he is the most supsicous person playing. As for not helping the townies our track record for lynched is 100% wrong and I have not thought any of them to be guilty enough to be lynched I wpuld say the people who have accused and lead the attacks on the poeple who ahve been lynched have done more harm to our cause than me nt posting a bit., I am sticking by  my choice of Afroboy.

I urge you to  think before lynching
right, first off Why have i posted like that? because i initially did it for my own investigations, then when i came accross this...
It seems Hippo wants conflict but maybe if the king contributed more and started threatening people then others in the game would start posting more and have to defemd themselves hopefully making a mistake.

Where are you King?
I thought, ok I'll carry on and post it and gauge your reaction.

we have been 100% wrong so far, because there is a real lack of people particpating fully and not threatening anyone, which is what needs to be done like you have constantly been saying, but in the same breath you are also telling people not to be so threatening... i call that sitting on the fence, and being contradictory. I was hoping you would retort back with some accusations of your own, as this is quite clearly my intention like you have requested, instead you have offered nothing new.

I am trying (albeit in vain) to threaten people to get them talking.

I also believe one of our previous kings is possibly an assasin, and i just noticed Currieman and yorkshire on hear and failing to respond to my threat of ending the day ASAP....
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: billyman on November 08, 2006, 07:07:55 PM
I really am flumexed at who is a mafia person, i still tend to think amadjin and afroboy because they were the ones who were pushing me to killing quigg, but i see the king isnt interested in killing amadjin, and you are heading towards picking of church which could be a good call as he tends to be very cautious about his posting.

Afroboy, while not posting anything in particular was picked out by a few people as being evil, we could look at who it was singleing him out and evaluate if they pushed the vote towards another innocent in the past, this could be a good sign at who is evil, dya think kingy :D

shall i do my % predictions to help the king with my point of view?

I will wait to see if the king thinks i am worthy of such predictions :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: laserblue on November 08, 2006, 07:45:48 PM
Oh no that last post was soooooo creepy :laugh:

I havent voted cause I don't know & if I did vote it would be a pure guess based on not much & that hasn't got us anywhere so far. Like i said in my last post i thought Yorkshire looked most suspicious but it's a guess & he's also new to game(I think) so he's prob innocent, i dunno ??? 

not much help I know, but quick decisions have got us nowhere.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 08, 2006, 08:39:59 PM
i think afro boys is evilnad fozza is
manic and church have played different games to what they normally play
i also have a feeling that currieman could be evil
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: hippo on November 08, 2006, 09:15:04 PM
In the words of oasis, "you gotta make it happen"

Vote Count
Amadjin: Billyman (1)
Yorkshireblue: Manic (1)
Fozza: Afroboy, Yorkshireblue (2)
Currieman: Manic, Yorkshireblue (2)
Billyman: Manic (1)
Afroboy: ChurchofHalo, Yorkshireblue (2)

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 08, 2006, 09:51:36 PM
vote fozza afroboy currieman
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: laserblue on November 08, 2006, 10:22:28 PM
where is Fozza, he's not made a post for time, I think he needs to make an appearance.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 08, 2006, 10:50:15 PM
hmmm, its not much to gage anything by, but Currieman is being a lurker big time. I would of thought he would of offered his opinions before i threatend to lynch Churchy...

No-one so far has bothered to say i could be wrong with churchy, so this suggests to me that he is working alone... or he could be an assasin but the others are staying quiet incase they get sussed too...

I will repeat again my Critical list of who i am thinking of lynching, but this doesnt mean anyone else is safe...
Currieman, Churchy, Afroboy, Fozza...

if we assume there is just one assassin(which is why it could be tricky finding the bugger, although i would imagine there is at least 2) and that an assassin has already been king, I would have a 1 in 3 chance of getting someone. Currieman is in my critical list, and has been king...

any objections to currieman getting it?

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: billyman on November 08, 2006, 11:39:13 PM
i have never had any objections to currieman getting it :laugh:

never really thought about him before though ???

axeman, why do you think that an evil person has been king, i was under the impression that only townies could be king, but then again i still havent read the rules fully :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 09, 2006, 03:40:21 AM
i dont know if its anything to go on,but looking back i think afroboy latched on to me and seemed to mimic quite a lot of the things i said,then again it could be coincedence

gee will all you lurkers post,your makin the game highly unfair,regardless of alignment
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: laserblue on November 09, 2006, 09:18:28 AM
still no Fozz

Fozza where are you ???

Moley has disappeared again, come on we need some help here cause we cannot afford to loose another townie.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 09, 2006, 10:12:57 AM
We are faced with two problems. One is that people have played this game well so far so any mafia have avoided suspiscion and two theres a lot of people not posting so they are avoiding suspiscion!!

Theres always a good chance that a non poster is mafia but to do we really want a shot in the dark with only townies being killed so far?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 09, 2006, 11:21:30 AM
I'm hardly lurking. I was on here reading what you posted about Churchy and I haven't really thought about whether Churchy is good or evil as he hasn't been very suspicious to me. Or atleast not as suspicious as I find some people.

There are more people than me that aren't contributing at all. I seem to be getting the finger pointed at me just because I was on here reading stuff and didn't post.

At the time I didn't really have anything to add to what you said about Churchy. You seemed to be wanting to lynch him and I didn't feel the need to post as I am still 50/50 on Churchy as I don't even have an inkling as to whether he is good or evil.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 09, 2006, 12:10:55 PM
still no Fozz

Fozza where are you ???

Moley has disappeared again, come on we need some help here cause we cannot afford to loose another townie.

sorry havent posted for a bit....

I thought yorkshire looked sus but then again I thought Quig was guilty cause he was avioding posting, so what do I know .........

I have not got a clue about Amadjin either........sorry not much help there.

Where's Moley at least we know he's innocent(don't we) so  I think it would help if he gave us his thoughts at least we know he's not Mafia trying to get an innocent killed.

I'll keep reading & post when I have something constructive to add

     

Yes tis true I have been missing today ;D

But I have been very busy giving my opinions etc up until now, just been busy at work thats all..........anyway where is Quig  ??? still on his hols ???
& I see Manic has now decided to join us at last :D



Gone over the last 8 pages and have pulled these out by Laserblue, there ere maybe another four posts but these were the ones where he said the most.

I am now changing my mind away from Afroboy towards Laserblue. These are the posts in which he has said the most but in fact has said absolutley nothing, he has not accused anyone just sat on the fence adding nothing or even expressing a single actual opinion. I know I hav'nt posted loads but I have always tried to contribhute when off from work but all we get from Laserbkue is "I'll keep reading & post when I have something constructive to add" but nohting ever gets added.

Seen enough of these games and he has not done anyhting to help the townies and he to me is the most suspicous character and the most likely to be mafia.

Unvote:Afroboy Vote:Laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: laserblue on November 09, 2006, 06:50:54 PM
to church

In the posts you have chosen to highlight I think I have made it clear that I have not voted for anyone this time cause I want to make as sure as i possibly can that another townie is not going to get lynched

That is why I urged axeman to be cautious & take his time, if I were mafia I would be jumping on every bandwagon & pushing for an quick kill

so you want me to vote for someone pointlessly then.........

OK vote church  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 09, 2006, 07:43:54 PM
thats suspcious laser voting church cos he voted him
i think one of these should be executed in this order of biggest suspect
1)laser blue
2)afroboy
3)currieman
and possibly church

vote laser blue he asnt really given a reason to vote church hes just voted for him cos church voted him and this looks suspicous
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: laserblue on November 09, 2006, 07:55:16 PM
It was a joke  ;) why do you think I put on the laughing smiley

But while were at it I'll tell you what is suspicious..... you jumping on the bandwagon so fast

& you rushing to stick up for church, why would you do that ???

could it be my suspicions about you in previous posts were right

or are you just voting for me cause i said you were suspicious in previous posts.

unvote churchy vote yorkshire

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 09, 2006, 08:33:31 PM
theres another one no real reason for voting apart from i voted for him hes done it twice now

he is now top of my list to be executed
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: laserblue on November 09, 2006, 08:51:22 PM
No.... I may have had no real reasons to vote for church, but I have plenty of reasons to vote for you....

I have said previously your posts are suspicious & I'm not the only one

You executed Tommy with indecent haste

you rushed in to try & start a bandwagon against me with a silly reason

& a lot of the more experienced players say that they think at least one of the kings was evil  I think thats you there talking about

thats four good reasons without having to think too hard. ;D

 

 

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 09, 2006, 10:27:41 PM
thats bad maths,i read 3 reasons... nice to finally see some conflict again,manic where are you,ya mafia punk!
Vote Manic
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 10, 2006, 09:50:20 AM
i'm here :D to be honest i posted my thoughts a while back stating that one or more ex kings are definately mafia.  hence my vote on currie, billy and yorkshire

and laserblue, voting people because they voted for you is, plain and simple childish.... or is it poor play by an assassin.. mmmmmm not sure biut this one :-\
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: hippo on November 10, 2006, 10:26:28 AM
Vote Count
Amadjin: Billyman (1)
Yorkshireblue: Manic, Laserblue (2)
Fozza: Afroboy, Yorkshireblue (2)
Currieman: Manic, Yorkshireblue (2)
Billyman: Manic (1)
Afroboy: Yorkshireblue (1)
Laserblue: ChurchofHalo, Yorkshireblue (2)
Manic: Amadjin (1)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 10, 2006, 01:41:38 PM
i have never had any objections to currieman getting it :laugh:

never really thought about him before though ???

axeman, why do you think that an evil person has been king, i was under the impression that only townies could be king, but then again i still havent read the rules fully :laugh:
if all the kings are innoncent, that means i could rub another 3 off my list.
like someone has said you are being very creepy, and with you now acting daft you have arroused my suspicion more... I think i may have it wrong with Currieman, and the assassin who has been king is you, BILLYMAN.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: billyman on November 10, 2006, 03:28:52 PM
"now acting daft" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

since when have i never :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

kill me and we lose for sure :'(

i still tend to think amadjin and afroboy are evil and one of them should be the next to go, they were the two who pursuaded me to lynch an innocent, so at least one of them must be evil >:D

and you wonder why no-one is posting - cos the second you do people jump down yer throat, you should be trying to encourage the non posters to post.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 10, 2006, 03:37:51 PM
Ok I want to get this game going or get myself killed and tell you all my role. I am the kingmaker, I chose the king at random for the first two days but for the last two i have selected kings that have not voted for me!!

This will probably leave me open for attack in the night but this game is dragging. Therefore it is clearly possible that previous kings have been assassins.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 10, 2006, 05:46:35 PM
if you are what you are what you say you are,youve probably lost us the game....
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 10, 2006, 05:51:29 PM
Lets be honest is that a bad thing the way things are going?

Even if someone does try take me out someone will take my place as kingmaker.

My random selections for king have backfired on the team. I tried to even that out by giving the role to two people who have good judgment in my view (Axeman and Billy) but either one of those could actually be assassins themselves. Not one assassin killed and no one is posting. The game is not lost yet but we arent getting anywhere.

Axeman its up to you to make a decision. I gave you the role as I thought you might be able to help us out but I have no idea who im going to name for tommorow  ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 10, 2006, 06:34:47 PM
that was the worst thing you could have done ::)  axeman had already stated that he didnt suspect you so you were not up for execution, so now you are gonna be a target for the assasins.  all you can hope for is a doctot to save you,  thats if they ever look at this thread, whoever that it is ::)

basically you have put a nail in all our coffins :'(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 10, 2006, 06:40:45 PM
I've made my case against you and I am now more sure now.

"That is why I urged axeman to be cautious & take his time, if I were mafia I would be jumping on every bandwagon & pushing for an quick kill"

The mafia do the complete oposite, they stay out of sight, not offending anyone and doing exactly what you are doing.

I am now certain you are guilty and now hope Happy agrees with me.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: laserblue on November 10, 2006, 10:28:26 PM

The mafia do the complete oposite, they stay out of sight, not offending anyone and doing exactly what you are doing.


& what am I exactly doing ???

 If you have been playing the same game, you would know I have contributed plenty of times throughout, as much as you anyway & we have tried killing people quickly through the game & look where it's got us. Just cause I think we should take our time & try to lynch a mafia this time, why do you think thats suspicious ???

so if you are innocent why don't you look at people who really are "staying out of sight"   
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 11, 2006, 06:46:43 PM
No posts since yesterday!! Like I said if someone does take me out then someone else will become kingmaker so that wont matter but this game isnt going anywhere
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 11, 2006, 07:41:26 PM
Yet another post by Laserblue not actually saying anything at all ::)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 12, 2006, 01:02:07 PM
jesus, I tried my best to get things moving by threatening people, but I'm still at square one with regards to who i pick as no-one has tried to find out anything about anyone.

so it looks like i'm gonna have to do a random pick afterall.  >:(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: hippo on November 12, 2006, 11:16:36 PM
Okay, the deadline for the king's decision is tuesday 5pm. Maybe people can put some effort in to accusing people for his benefit before then. You're all playing it like it's day one every day.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on November 13, 2006, 05:42:05 AM
the one's putting in the original effort have all been killed Hippo, which is not your fault.

 :ghostface:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 13, 2006, 01:08:18 PM
nice to see lots has happened over the weekend ::) axey you might aswell close the day as nowt is gonna change, lets just pray you get lucky
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 13, 2006, 05:40:39 PM
I've made my case for lynching Laserblue and am pretty certain he is guilty.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: laserblue on November 13, 2006, 06:31:43 PM
Yawn, Yawn

 have you anything new to say?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 13, 2006, 06:37:11 PM
i think this day should be ended one of these should be executed
currieman
laser blue
fozza
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 13, 2006, 07:13:50 PM
i think one of these three

manic
SVH
or churchy

theres something about them i dont like..but cos they dont post much (well anythin worth calling a post) i cant get evidence on them,it has to be just a hunch...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 13, 2006, 07:35:04 PM
I'm not really sure anymore.

Yorkshire is still my prime suspect but after that it gets harder. SVH is still not posting very much or contributing so he may be evil but as I said I'm not sure
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 13, 2006, 07:40:28 PM
y dont we just execute laser blue
church pointed out earlier that in all of is posts he aint helped and sometimes just comes out with random :shit:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 13, 2006, 07:41:49 PM
Im not sure if that will help. There hasnt been much to reply to these past few days. Any suggestions for the next king? Im not going to make Amadjin king as he will just execute me straight away  :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 13, 2006, 07:48:52 PM
why are you so concerned bout killing laser? if this is another innocent,your heads on the block tomorrow for sure,seeing as you'l have been responsible for one death as king,and partly responsible for another if your wrong

and steve why would i? lol

youve come out as a kingmaker,all thats making you suspicious is your lack of anything analytical,n im a little weary bout you coming out :D but that by no means means that im gonna kill you if i was made king.one thing id make sure is the folk have there say(thats if they actually want to speak...C****-Present king not included,your majesty lol)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 13, 2006, 08:11:24 PM
moleys innocent but as put no contribution in the game at all infact howmany times as he posted no more than 5
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 13, 2006, 08:59:51 PM
Amadjin the trouble is Im not too sure if your an assasin or not so therefore Im unwilling to crown you. I dont want the power to go to your head now do I?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 13, 2006, 09:40:30 PM
worst thing you could do is make him(amadjin) king :P
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 13, 2006, 09:46:01 PM
*sigh
so I guess i'm gonna have to randomly pull someones name out of a hat... I'll do it before i go bed tonight just incase i dont make it home for 5 tomorrow.  :-\

...
...
...
 >:(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 13, 2006, 10:17:13 PM
Im going to vote tommy catons haircut but i cant see him responding.

Im suspiscious of Amadjin and Church so neither of those will be crowned tommorow. I dont want to recrown any of our previous kings either as one of them is probably an assasin. Also a few people are suspiscious of Manic so who should i crown?  ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 13, 2006, 10:28:00 PM
Im going to vote tommy catons haircut but i cant see him responding.
Is that a joke? :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 13, 2006, 10:35:30 PM
Its just a random vote to be honest. Fancy being king tommorow?


I dont want someone to be king that doesnt post very often but I dont want it to be someone who has already been king, im stuck.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 13, 2006, 10:53:09 PM
I think Amadjin's a townie, so I'd give him the king role.  ;)

I hereby EXECUTE AFROBOY
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 13, 2006, 11:01:11 PM
Im not sure but Im going to give him the role tommorow just so that the person that is king actually posts, Id be taking a gamble on anyone else  :(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: froganomis on November 14, 2006, 02:04:45 AM
i know days over,but if im indeed goin to be king,assassins be nice n kill some other person haha
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: stevenryals on November 14, 2006, 01:32:36 PM
umm.... i know I'm dead.. just want to let SVH know that Tommy Catons Hairstylist was the first to die in this game...    just FYI
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Four, KING: HAPPY AXEMAN
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 14, 2006, 02:11:38 PM
Just goes to show how boring this game has become, I cant remember whos dead anymore. I know that you are


___________________ ___________________ __________

I apologise. The concept does actually work though; if you want it to be a good game, people themselves actually have to do something. If you think the game's going on to long, fair enough, but it's the people actually playing the game who decide when to actually end the days.

I can abandon it if you actually want me to though.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Night Four
Post by: hippo on November 14, 2006, 06:22:54 PM
The long term suspect of many, afroboy, is grabbed by the mob and dragged to be executed. The executioner performs the deed, searches the body, and similarly to that of all the other dead - he is found to have nothing incriminating on him - he was once again, a normal townie.

The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One
Bluestarsneyes, Townie: Executed on Day Two
Sir Hammer, Mason: Shot on Night Two
The Quigmaster, Townie: Executed on Day Three
dotLeo, Townie: Shot on Night Three
afroboy, Townie: Executed on Day Four

IT IS NOW NIGHT FOUR, I'LL START THE NEXT DAY WHEN I RECEIVE ALL THE NIGHT ACTIONS.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: hippo on November 15, 2006, 07:26:27 PM
Cries of terror awaken the townsfolk from their slumber, and they all rapidly congregate in the centre of town, eager to find out from where they came. A quick head count soon shows what everyone had feared.. there was one missing. They looked around searching amongst themselves to work out who was missing - it soon became obvious that the missing individual was amadjin. A search party formed and they headed off to his hut, which was now becoming a hated duty. Sure enough, amadjin was found with a bullet hole put through his head. A burial is performed before the grieving townsfolk descend in to squabbling amongst themselves. The cloaked figure re emerges from the shadows, "People of Solomonia" he booms, "you must re evaluate how you are doing this, you must unite as one to rid the town of these murderous scum. We must step up the search, we must look back on what has happened previously, for soon it may be too late, WE MUST FIGHT, WE MUST SHOW PASSION.. FOR THE KING", the townsmen roar with approval not noticing the man submerging himself back to the shadows.

The royal guards step forward proclaiming the message that ManicMonkeyMan has been named king for the day.


The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One
Bluestarsneyes, Townie: Executed on Day Two
Sir Hammer, Mason: Shot on Night Two
The Quigmaster, Townie: Executed on Day Three
dotLeo, Townie: Shot on Night Three
afroboy, Townie: Executed on Day Four
Amadjin, Townie: Shot on Night Four

Players Alive
Billyman
ChurchofHalo
Currieman
Fozza
Happy Axeman
Laserblue
Manic
Mo1ey UK
Steve Van Halen
Yorkshireblue

IT IS NOW DAY FIVE.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 15, 2006, 08:13:13 PM
all hail the new king :notworthy:, now lets see some people come up with some decent accusations to find some of the assassins.  its starting to look rather grim :'(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 15, 2006, 08:45:26 PM
Looks like I was right in my doubts in my original accusation of Afroboy, shame and the loss of Amadjin is another blow, how many more night can we survive.

I still have my suspision of Laserblue for previous mentioned reasons.

Vote:Laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 15, 2006, 08:52:10 PM
I personally think that Yorkshire has managed to slip under the radar. He was hasty with his execution of Tommy and has been very sly with his voting patterns.

Vote Yorkshire

Also, Fozza has hardly contributed anything of note and I think he's just trying to stay in the background so that he doesn't get noticed.

Vote Fozza
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 15, 2006, 09:08:15 PM
awww crap. :shit:
I made a huge mistake in Afroboy, I meant to say LaserBlue :doh:

Looks like I was right in my doubts in my original accusation of Afroboy, shame and the loss of Amadjin is another blow, how many more night can we survive.

I still have my suspision of Laserblue for previous mentioned reasons.

Vote:Laserblue

I Agree laserblue should be the next one to go.

Vote LaserBlue

I also still think a previous king(Before me) is also an assassin.
I'm thinking Currieman with the way he has come straight out with voting an often accused YorkshireBlue, and Fozza who isnt playing the game!
If LaserBlue is also an assasin, this would also be good tactics by Currieman to try to divert ChurchofHalo's accusation of Laserblue.

Its a possibility, but i'm not 100%, I'll have to look more into Curriemans previous activity, and Billyman is a bit suspicious too. I actually think Yorkshire may be innocent.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 15, 2006, 09:29:39 PM
I'm not trying to divert anybody's attention. I just think that Yorkshire and Fozza are suspicious. I haven't really been keeping tabs on Laser so I'm not sure.

Also, what's this about you "meaning to say Laser"? Is it just a way to divert attention from the fact that you killed a townie or did you actually make a mistake :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 15, 2006, 09:43:45 PM
no it was a mistake. I guess it was a combination of working too many hours, not getting enough sleep and being wrecked.. but yes, I fucked up by letting Afroboys name come into in my head instead of LaserBlue.

Good choice btw the Kingmaker, I believe Manic to be more innocent than assassin, so I'm sure he will nail one this time.
Next I'd be inclined to make Churchy King, he is another I'm sure is a Townie.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: laserblue on November 15, 2006, 10:01:08 PM
Ok lads so we have managed to kill off four townie's

three of them new to the game

so what should we do ?

oh yes i know kill of another new innocent player, that will make everything ok won't it. :duh:

most people are saying one of the previous kings is evil ( I think thats Yorkshire)

& what do you want to do?

vote for someone who has never been king

Why is everyone ignoring Yorkshire , he looks as guilty as sin to me & has blood on his hands

what about Fozza he's getting away scott free with not even entering in the game

go back & look at the way church has got a bandwagon up against me with NO real reasons

Churh is either evil or a very dumb player who is going to finish us off this time

also Axeman why did you execute my son  ???  shame on you you you childkiller  :'(

Vote fozza
Vote yorkshire
Vote church  
 :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: billyman on November 15, 2006, 10:08:57 PM
i dont believe this :'(

how many are left in the game?  ....10

of the 10 there must be 3,4 or even 5 assasins, more if there has been recruitment, so at worst we have a 30% chance of and best a 50% so,

THESE 3 ARE MY MAIN SUSPECTS.

VOTE : LASERBLUE              
VOTE : CHURCHOFHALO
VOTE : MOLEY UK1

church is quiter than usual, laser has said suspicious things in the past, and moley simply because i cant remember many posts at all by him and the lurkers seem to be the worst ;)

FOS : FOZZA, CURRIEMAN can we still do this?

convieniant mistake there axeman ::) not like you i must say :o i have always had an idea you are innocent------i am now having to rethink that, although only 45% evil in my eyes....still....a strange mistake >:(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 15, 2006, 10:14:11 PM
Sheeeet  :'(

Well Amadjin would have been king but its gone to my second choice, Manic.

Manic I hope you use your judgement wisely.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 15, 2006, 10:17:56 PM
lol believe me, Afroboy was a mistake i cannot believe i did. to be honest its actually rather embarrassing.

Moley has been confirmed to be a mason, so it makes no difference if he's posting or not. he is innocent.

Unless its an elaborate ploy by Churchy, I doubt very much he is an Assassin if he's trying to get Laserblue lynched.

so the only person on your votes which is correct, is Laserblue.  ;)

@laser you should be grateful, I meant to execute you.   :-\
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 15, 2006, 10:18:52 PM
On another note I am not going to make public who I make King again as it is obvious this is why amadjin was taken out.


Part of me is thinking that there isnt many assasins though as the law of average would say that we should have guessed one right by now.


Vote Fozza

He hasnt posted in a while, lets get some life out of him
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 15, 2006, 10:32:10 PM
wise move SVH.  ;)

I'll give you all my list of how i see things....

Happy Axeman - 100% Innocent
Mo1ey UK - 100% Innocent - Mason
Steve Van Halen - 100% Innocent - Kingmaker - unless someone steps forward to denounce his roleclaim.
ChurchofHalo - 90% Innocent - 100% if Laserblue is GUILTY
Manic - 70% Innocent - 100% if he kills Laserblue or another Assassin.
Yorkshireblue - 70% Innocent - 100% if Laser is GUILTY

so this leaves these people...

Billyman - 50% - not sure about Billy could go either way.
Laserblue - 0% - GUILTY AS CAN BE
Currieman - 50% If LaserBlue's An assasin, the Currieman jumps to my No.1 suspect.
Fozza - 50% who?

by my calculations, despite not fairing too well, we de actually have a very strong chance of winning this.  ;)

of course i could be slightly wrong as people may be voting there own, as a smokescreen...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 15, 2006, 10:37:35 PM
nice to see a bit of activity for a change, top of my death list are laser, currieman and yorkshire oh and of course willyman
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 16, 2006, 12:15:36 AM
Wahey the game has got going!

Vote Laserblue

I dont know why but I trust Axeys judgement and like him I am convinced that one of the former kings is an assassin. However if we are wrong today we can say goodbye to this game as the assassins are bound to get someone in the night.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: hippo on November 16, 2006, 12:26:02 AM
Vote Count
(4) Laserblue: ChurchofHalo, Happy Axeman, Billyman, Steve Van Halen
(3) Fozza: Currieman, Laserblue, Steve Van Halen
(2) Yorkshireblue: Currieman, Laserblue
(2) ChurchofHalo: Laserblue, Billyman
(1) Mo1ey: Billyman
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: froganomis on November 16, 2006, 03:19:32 AM
so me disappearing has been of use...woooo *in a ghost like manner*
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 16, 2006, 08:10:57 AM
well well well. If it isn't the mafia boys. Funnily enough i've been working trying to pay for a wedding so excuse me if i don't seem to post but it is quite hard when you work 70 hours a week. Plus the fact i have not been well. So i thought i would come on and make a few points. Lets first have a go at Currieman. Take a look at this post by him in Snakes and Zombies.

"It's these posts that are making you more suspicious in my eyes. You have just told us about 10 times that you've been innocent in every other game and that is somehow meant to make me believe that you are innocent in this game?" AIMED AT ME

So currie...make your mind up. If i post, i'm suspicious. If i dont post....i'm suspicious, somebody please explain to me how you come up with such clever and witty (i will even go as far as genius) facts.  Basically it seems that i am doomed in the mafia games because i can't do right for doing wrong can i? Oh wait..... here comes another one.

"I still just think Fozza is trying too hard. Just because you were innocent in the last game doesn't make you innocent in this one."

Just because i was guilty in the last game doesn't mean i am in this one and just because you were innocent doesn't mean you are. Inactivity bears no meaning on the game whatsoever because it can simply be for the reasons which i have told you above.  I have had enough of ranting anyway so Currie i will close on another one of your famous ingenius quotes:

"You may be innocent but everything you're doing is making you look evil in my eyes"
Vote: Currieman
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 16, 2006, 09:43:16 AM
I'm sorry, what the fuck!

Firstly there's this bit:
Quote
"It's these posts that are making you more suspicious in my eyes. You have just told us about 10 times that you've been innocent in every other game and that is somehow meant to make me believe that you are innocent in this game?" AIMED AT ME

So currie...make your mind up. If i post, i'm suspicious. If i dont post....i'm suspicious, somebody please explain to me how you come up with such clever and witty (i will even go as far as genius) facts.
As you say, this is a completely different game. I don't care (that much) about how you were acting in the last game because, as you failed so miserably at being evil, you may have changed the way you play if you are evil in this one.
The reason you were suspicious in the last game is because, well there are loads of reasons so just go look at the thread.
The reason you are suspicious (for me) in this one is because you just seem to have slipped underneath the radar. You may have been busy at work but then there has hardly been loads of posting so you really have barely posted.
It may be that you are innocent and just haven't had time to post but then it may also be that you are evil and haven't posted to avoid attention.
You're not a 100% evil suspect for me, I just thought it was suspicious that you haven't posted as much as everyone else.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 16, 2006, 09:59:02 AM
First off, Fozza I totally understand where your coming from. Ive had accusations thrown at me in these games in the past because I havent been near my computer for a few days due to work or other such commitments. But this game has gone extremely slow due to non posters.

Secondly you cant take previous games into account. I know I did in the last game but that was to prove a mafia would take out their own to avoid suspiscion.



Hopefully if you no longer have to work such silly hours you may be able to contribute more towards the game.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 16, 2006, 11:29:36 AM
if you would like me too, i would be happy to end the day as everybody except moley has posted and voted... i have virtually made my mind up

its between laserblue, billyman and currieman

laserblue and currieman have both got votes on fozza and yorkshire, assassins sticking together maybe :-\

then there is billyman,  who has a vote on church, as does laserblue.  then he has a vote on moley, who must be innocent after hammers role claim, (that cost him his life) :'( about him and moley being a mason

looks like maybe these 3 are in cahoots
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 16, 2006, 11:44:31 AM
laserblue and currieman have both got votes on fozza and yorkshire, assassins sticking together maybe :-\
If you were an assassin then surely you'd place votes on lots of different people so that you don't arouse too suspicion.

I voted for Fozza and Yorkshire because they are the most suspicious in my eyes.
Laser may have just jumped on the bandwagon to make me look guilty, which I'm not so that it can deflect the blame off of him.

Laser is looking quite suspicious to me now that you've pointed that out Manic. He hadn't really before because he had posted pretty often and contributed but he'd never really done anything that I thought was suspicious.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 16, 2006, 11:57:14 AM
right lets do this

THE KING HAS SPOKEN

EXECUTELASERBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Night Five
Post by: hippo on November 16, 2006, 12:28:35 PM
It's supposed to be 24 hours, but because of the contributions made since last night, i'll allow it.

King Manic declares Laserblue is to be executed, and he is swarmed upon by the group, clearly fired up by the incidents of days gone by and the lively debate of today. He is knocked out and hoisted above their heads and carried off to the executioner. He looks hastily at them, "look, you keep bringing me innocents to kill, are you sure this time.. maybe i could search him before killing him?" he asks, but the mob declare they want him dead. He performs the duty, more warily than usual due to previous events, and moves over to the corpse to search it for any clues. He stares silently, and the crowd look on in anticipation. Suddenly he turns, "he's got a gun! WE'VE GOT ONE OF THE BASTARDS! finally!", and the crowd explode in to rapture. Drinks are passed around and the town drink away the memories of all the dead. Finally feeling relieved. And for this moment in time, everything is okay. They retreat to their houses in the early hours of the morning with a mood of optimism. Maybe they can finally rid the town of this terrible affliction.

The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One
Bluestarsneyes, Townie: Executed on Day Two
Sir Hammer, Mason: Shot on Night Two
The Quigmaster, Townie: Executed on Day Three
dotLeo, Townie: Shot on Night Three
afroboy, Townie: Executed on Day Four
Amadjin, Townie: Shot on Night Four
Laserblue, Assassin: Executed on Day Five

IT IS NOW NIGHT FIVE. THOSE WITH NIGHT ACTIONS ARE PERMITTED TO USE THEM, THE DAY WILL START ONCE I HAVE RECEIVED THEM ALL.

Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Night Five
Post by: Sir Villain on November 16, 2006, 03:30:06 PM
Quote from: executioner
"he's got a gun!

a gun?

Surely a dagger or a vial of poison would have been more appropriate?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Night Five
Post by: hippo on November 16, 2006, 08:19:24 PM
a gun?

Surely a dagger or a vial of poison would have been more appropriate?

You're right, that WOULD explain the bullet hole in your head the other night.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: hippo on November 17, 2006, 11:14:54 AM
The town awaken to the sounds of chirping birds, although no one is appreciative due to the excruciating hangovers from the previous nights celebrations. Slowly, they all drag themselves from their homes to the meeting square, where they are to decide who should be executed the next day. It takes them a long time to realise that one of them isn't there, but when they do, the search party is sent, fearing the worst, to the missing members house. They are shocked when they get there - pictures all over the wall, certificates, memorabilia, all indicating the worst for the town - the missing man was a cop. They go up the stairs to find what they had feared - the bloody corpse of Happy Axeman. They find him clutching a piece of paper, clearly that which he has been making notes from his investigations on - but critically, and possibly fatally for the town, the vital piece has been torn away.

The group walk back to the others with grave looks on their faces, and when the news spreads, so do the bleak facial expressions. It had looked so good only the previous night, such a wave of optimism - crushed. While the party was off it has been announced that mo1ey UK was to be the town's king for the day. Despite the loss, the people's focus must now turn to finding the remaining assassins, and saving the kingdom from this curse.


The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One
Bluestarsneyes, Townie: Executed on Day Two
Sir Hammer, Mason: Shot on Night Two
The Quigmaster, Townie: Executed on Day Three
dotLeo, Townie: Shot on Night Three
afroboy, Townie: Executed on Day Four
Amadjin, Townie: Shot on Night Four
Laserblue, Assassin: Executed on Day Five
Happy Axeman, Cop: Shot on Night Five

Players Alive
Billyman
ChurchofHalo
Currieman
Fozza
Manic
Mo1ey UK
Steve Van Halen
Yorkshireblue

IT IS NOW DAY SIX.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 17, 2006, 11:20:21 AM
Get in knew Laserblue was guilty :yahoo:, but that plus is counteracted by the loss of our cop. :(

That does explain how Happy knew that Dotleo was innocent earlier in the game.

Going to have to have a read back over the last few pages for some more clues.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 17, 2006, 11:28:32 AM
The idea was for moley to come out and help as he hasnt posted in ages. I hope it works.


So which one of you scumbags killed Axeman?  >:(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 17, 2006, 12:04:10 PM
Good idea, hope it works or this could be a very long day :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 17, 2006, 01:10:59 PM


I also still think a previous king(Before me) is also an assassin.
I'm thinking Currieman with the way he has come straight out with voting an often accused YorkshireBlue, and Fozza who isnt playing the game!
If LaserBlue is also an assasin, this would also be good tactics by Currieman to try to divert ChurchofHalo's accusation of Laserblue.

Its a possibility, but i'm not 100%, I'll have to look more into Curriemans previous activity, and Billyman is a bit suspicious too. I actually think Yorkshire may be innocent.

i think this gives a clear indication that axeman was on the right path, and i beleive that currieman killed axeman off because he knew axeman was going to find out he was another assassin, also looking at the votes on the last day

Vote Count
(4) Laserblue: ChurchofHalo, Happy Axeman, Billyman, Steve Van Halen
(3) Fozza: Currieman, Laserblue, Steve Van Halen
(2) Yorkshireblue: Currieman, Laserblue
(2) ChurchofHalo: Laserblue, Billyman
(1) Mo1ey: Billyman

it shows that laser and currieman have votes on the same people

 
If you were an assassin then surely you'd place votes on lots of different people so that you don't arouse too suspicion.

I voted for Fozza and Yorkshire because they are the most suspicious in my eyes.
Laser may have just jumped on the bandwagon to make me look guilty, which I'm not so that it can deflect the blame off of him.

Laser is looking quite suspicious to me now that you've pointed that out Manic. He hadn't really before because he had posted pretty often and contributed but he'd never really done anything that I thought was suspicious.

then when he(currieman) notices that i have spotted his and lasers votes, he decides to divert the attention away from himself and accuse laser of jumping on a bandwagon.  me thinks desperate attempt to save his skin for the next day, hence why he killed axeman off, knowing that he was on to something ;)

VOTEASSASSINSCUMCURRIEMAN
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Five, KING: ManicMonkeyMan
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 17, 2006, 01:17:34 PM
wise move SVH.  ;)

I'll give you all my list of how i see things....

Happy Axeman - 100% Innocent
Mo1ey UK - 100% Innocent - Mason
Steve Van Halen - 100% Innocent - Kingmaker - unless someone steps forward to denounce his roleclaim.
ChurchofHalo - 90% Innocent - 100% if Laserblue is GUILTY
Manic - 70% Innocent - 100% if he kills Laserblue or another Assassin.
Yorkshireblue - 70% Innocent - 100% if Laser is GUILTY

so this leaves these people...

Billyman - 50% - not sure about Billy could go either way.
Laserblue - 0% - GUILTY AS CAN BE
Currieman - 50% If LaserBlue's An assasin, the Currieman jumps to my No.1 suspect.
Fozza - 50% who?

by my calculations, despite not fairing too well, we de actually have a very strong chance of winning this.  ;)

of course i could be slightly wrong as people may be voting there own, as a smokescreen...

also look at this list, its shows axemans suspicions on who is guilty and who is not.  i think it would be in are best interests to start with currieman and then work are way through the rest of them ;) long live the good folk
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 17, 2006, 01:31:22 PM
I agree. Perhaps we should go with our departed king and follow his assumption that if laserblue is an assassin then so is currieman


vote currieman

all we need now is for moley to give us his view if hes around
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 17, 2006, 02:05:06 PM
I've already explained that I voted for Yorkshire and Fozza because I thought they were the most guilty.

I don't know why Laser voted for them as well but it may have been a way to divert attention from the other assassins (Who I think are Yorkshire and Fozza) as they haven't post much recently and are keeping a low profile.

Laser knew that he was supposd to be killed by Axeman 2 days ago but instead Afroboy was killed so he knew that the next king would probably kill him as well.
It looks like he then decided that he would try to frame some townies so that they went down with him leaving his fellow assassins to look blameless.
To do this he has made it look like he is linked with me by voting for the same people.

It looks to me as though the assassins have tried to set me up for the fall here :'(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 17, 2006, 02:44:37 PM
i still think currieman is evil so vote currieman
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 17, 2006, 03:49:25 PM
I've said Currieman is evil too. Trying to kick me out because i'm not here. Thats called moleing in my eyes. If i'm not here i have no voice to defend myself, is that what you thought? An easy target to get rid of another townie? As soon as i came back with a response he shat himself and now he must pay the price.

Vote Currieman
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 17, 2006, 04:12:28 PM
I've said Currieman is evil too. Trying to kick me out because i'm not here. Thats called moleing in my eyes. If i'm not here i have no voice to defend myself, is that what you thought? An easy target to get rid of another townie? As soon as i came back with a response he shat himself and now he must pay the price.
That's complete bullshit and you know it.

I was suspicious of you because you weren't here so I voted for you. I didn't know if you were good or evil and I wasn't king so I couldn't execute you meaning I had no way to "kick you out".
With you not being here I thought that you were just lurking, trying to avoid attention. I didn't think "Oh he's an easy target" but that's obviously what you and Yorkshire think of me because I've now got 4 votes on me and 2 are from my prime suspects.

Now I seriously think that the assassins have been trying to set me up. This is just mental.

People want to kill me because Laser voted for the same people as me?
So by that logic nearly everybody is an assassin as lots of people voted for say, Der Hammer on the first day because of his rules.

This is just a poor excuse to kill an innocent townie and it would appear that Manic and SVH have fallen for it!

P.S I'm off out now and won't be back till around midnight so I won't be able to reply till then
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 18, 2006, 08:22:46 AM
I tell you what then Currieman. Vote me! Then if i die you will be even more screwed on the next day cus i'm a friggin townie. I don't know about Yorkshire cus i've never met him or heard of his role.

Axeman knew Dotleo was innocent. Maybe the quote above somewhere is a subtle hint at Currie being an assassin without revealing axeman's identity.

If Axeman came out and said Currie is evil, people would know he was a cop straight away. SO maybe he was trying to push us in this direction. I'm not too sure. We have got to get this one right. We've lost way too many townies and one or maybe two more would pretty much seal our fate.

Another thing that Axeman says is:
Happy Axeman - 100% Innocent
Mo1ey UK - 100% Innocent - Mason
Steve Van Halen - 100% Innocent - Kingmaker - unless someone steps forward to denounce his roleclaim.
ChurchofHalo - 90% Innocent - 100% if Laserblue is GUILTY
Manic - 70% Innocent - 100% if he kills Laserblue or another Assassin.
Yorkshireblue - 70% Innocent - 100% if Laser is GUILTY

Following that on now it would mean the following people are innocent:
Steve Van Halen
Church of Halo
Manic
Yorkshire Blue
Me
Moley

Which Leaves:
CURRIEMAN
BILLYMAN

I may be on that bottom list according to Axeman so include me there if you want to. But i can assure you that it will be Currie or Billy who places the killing vote on me. And if you do kill me, them two must pay the price for another townie will be dead.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 18, 2006, 09:43:06 AM
Do you even know how this game works Fozza!? ??? The King executes someone each day, so it doesn't matter who votes for who.

I'm kinda confused by Axeman's list. I can understand the Manic, Churchy, SVH and Mo1ey 100% innocent thoughts but how come Yorkshire is 100% innocent just because Laser was an assassin?

As I've been saying my guess is that they're been trying to divert attention from each other by voting for each other and it seems to have all come back to me!

So I'll Vote Yorkshire because my gut is telling me that someone was working with Laser to try and set me up for the fall like they have.
That's why I thought that Laser voted for Yorkshire and Fozza because he knew he was going to be executed and therefore wanted to try and take me down as well.

After your last couple of posts I'm not so sure that you are actually evil Fozza, mainly because you don't even seem to understand how this game works :laugh:

Also I'm not so sure about Billyman now either. Axeman has been saying all along that he thinks one of the former kings is evil and as he is the cop this implies that he has investigated a former king and it's come back guilty.

Therefore I'm gonna vote Billyman because, although I really think it's Fozza that is the evil King, I can't rule out the fact that it may be Billy that is guilty
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 18, 2006, 11:43:43 AM
Axeman was the cop and I think he was on the right track. Im just trying to follow up his work and your next on the suspect list mofo!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 18, 2006, 12:03:40 PM
 i think there are 4 assassins not 3.  they are laser, currieman, billy then either yorkshire/fozza

it would help if the others involved in this game would contribute, especially the king >:(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 18, 2006, 12:11:00 PM
like I said it was a ploy to get him to participate and it hasnt worked  >:(


Can I revoke the crown and give it someone else?

___________________ _________________

I have sent him a PM, so just play the day out, decide between you on your main suspects, and i imagine he'll be on to make a decision. Once the posting dies out for the game day, if it does, i'll set a deadline, and if that's not met, then the king himself would die. But it's only been about 24 hours since the day began, and it was friday/saturday, so that could explain it.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 18, 2006, 02:12:13 PM
Moley hasnt posted on here since november 7th, come on mate!!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 18, 2006, 02:23:04 PM
Yes i know how the game works. But if it was all soley based on the kings decision currie it would be a bit pointless i think. Our input means everyting in the game. Especially when Moley isn't here. That makes our votes mean more than ever. But something has to happen. Someone has to die. Maybe someone has set Currieman up. I don't know. but at the moment u are my prime suspect and that cannot be changed.  There has been many a time throughout the mafia games where i've pleaded my innoncence and in every game i've never made it to the end. Despite being evil one and taking part in 10 games. I know what you are going to say. previous games don't matter.  But they do. Without previous games we wouldn't know how people work and the tricks they use. And the trick your using now Currieman isn't working. Cus u r digging urself deeper and deeper into a grave.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 18, 2006, 02:24:19 PM
And by the way. Don't even dare say that that last post is making it look like i'm trying to get revenge. I've told you. Vote for me if you want to. I'm not expecting to make it to the end of the game because i never do. but if you kill me this round, you will only pile even more suspicion on yourself for the next round.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: hippo on November 18, 2006, 02:37:33 PM
Moley hasnt posted on here since november 7th, come on mate!!

Didn't realise it was that long, to be fair. I'll try and sort a replacement unless he turns up soon.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 18, 2006, 03:47:05 PM
Neither did I until today. Like I said it was to try encourage him into playing
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: froganomis on November 18, 2006, 04:27:35 PM
let me back in as replacement!!!


___________________ __________

Can't let dead people back in, i'm afraid.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 18, 2006, 07:03:50 PM
Have to agree with the late Happys evidence, he made a mistake with Afroboy but helped lynch laserblue, start with Curriemand and if hes guilty I'd go for Billyman.

Vote:Billyman
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: billyman on November 18, 2006, 07:28:02 PM
Why is peeps picking on me? i happen to help to pick out laserblue didnt i we should be looking at the people who didnt choose laser. >:(

I happen to think that fozza is evil and have always thought so VOTE : FOZZA and becuase church is starting to bandwagon again something the regular players will know he does a lot then i will have to do a bit of finger pointing at him also VOTE : CHURCH.


VOTE :YORKSHIRE BLUE not much input lately i have noticed, a lurker if there ever has been one, also happy hinted before he "departed" that a king was evil and yorkshire was the first king and he lynched a innocent with very little evidence.

cmon lads there is light at the end of the tunnel what with our sucessfull lynch of laser, lets not start jumping on the lynching bandwagon.       Once you go back and look at the pattern of voting then it has to be either fozza or yorkshire, dont lose us the game by lynching me, please spend 10mins reading over the votes and looking for patterns ;) It will go a long way to sussing out the assasins ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 18, 2006, 08:39:17 PM
The only reason that I think someone has set me up is because the only reason that anyone has said I'm suspicious is because Laser voted for the people that I did.

Before this nobody thought I evil but suddenly Laser votes for the same people that I do and I'm guilty?

As I have already said, if you go back you will see that Laser voted for the same people as lots of others but they were never condemned like this.

I have been trying to figure out who the evil people are and now that we are down to so few having only killed 1 assassin I have to go with the most suspicious and they are Fozza and Yorkshire.

It doesn't nescessarily mean they are evil, maybe Manic is evil and killed Laser to make him look completely innocent. I doubt it very much but it may have happened.

I'm just confused as to why I'm "definetely evil"?

 All I can do is plead my innocence again and again but there's no point. I know I'm a townie and that if I'm killed we'll be another townie down so do what you will.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: stevenryals on November 18, 2006, 09:07:51 PM
I'm a suitable replacement, seeing as I post about 10 times a day     : )

please please please!!!

:)

city scored 3 today!!!!!!!  WOOOHOOOO  little drunk.!!!  : )
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 19, 2006, 07:34:40 AM
Unvote: Currieman

FOR NOW!!!

U r balancing on a very think wire n if u say one thing wrong i will have no hestation in cutting the wire in two.  The problem i have currie is this. I said near enough the exact thing to you at the end of my last post. I am a townie vote for but u'll lose on more etc. Now i know a fact that i'm a shitty townie. So if you say the same thing as me, it kind of leans me towards tthe fact that u may be too. There is only one person here not voting, discussing and defending their innocence (apart from Moley). And that is

Vote: Yorkshire Blue
Keeping my eye on: That Currie Bloke
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 19, 2006, 11:59:56 AM
I personally think Happy knew more than he was telling and has put all we need to know in the table.

Another thing that Axeman says is:
Happy Axeman - 100% Innocent
Mo1ey UK - 100% Innocent - Mason
Steve Van Halen - 100% Innocent - Kingmaker - unless someone steps forward to denounce his roleclaim.
ChurchofHalo - 90% Innocent - 100% if Laserblue is GUILTY
Manic - 70% Innocent - 100% if he kills Laserblue or another Assassin.
Yorkshireblue - 70% Innocent - 100% if Laser is GUILTY

That leaves Billy and Currie who have offfered n real defence, if the king actually turns up at some point he should listed to the will of the people and lynch the assasin Curiieman.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 19, 2006, 06:11:10 PM
Yorkshireblue - 70% Innocent - 100% if Laser is GUILTY
I'm a bit confused by this. How come Billy and I are evil yet Yorkshire is definetely innocent if Laser is guilty? ???
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 20, 2006, 08:32:59 AM
I'm no fan of voting people for inactivity, but Yorkshire has been posting before and he has been quiet this game compared to his normal input. I don't know why but i just have a gut feeling about Yorkshire blue. My mind is telling me currie is guilty but my gut is saying Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 20, 2006, 02:51:02 PM
what is happening what if the king never turns up i aint been postingcos whats the point if theres no king to look at the evidence and i look at the two evil ones (billyman and currieman) trying to start a bandwaggon on me




___________________ ___________________ ___________

I'm trying to sort out a replacement, and i imagine they'll want convincing of who's what. So there is a point to posting. If i haven't filled the role by wednesday, i can do one of a few things.

a) Let the kingmaker select a new king
b) Stick with the rules, set a deadline for the king's decision, and execute himself if he doesn't turn up
c) Revert to the basic mafia game lynch mob for the day

Any thoughts on which of these is the better option would be appreciated. But also, don't stop posting, i am still working on bringing in a replacement for now, and it'll be a bit crap for them if they come in to a game, and are forced pretty much in to a random decision.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 20, 2006, 03:37:19 PM
i'd say let the kingmaker choose a new king ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: billyman on November 20, 2006, 04:43:10 PM
i agree, new king please + a hanging for the current useless king >:D for lack of kingivity :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 20, 2006, 05:00:03 PM
i agree, new king please + a hanging for the current useless king >:D for lack of kingivity :laugh:
another sign billys evil he wants the innocent king killed
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 20, 2006, 05:14:19 PM
We have lost too many innocents so we need a replacement for the king. I would say to bring back someone who has played in this game rather than bring someone new in. Der Hammer and Steveryals still read this despite being long gone so why dont we invite one of them back?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: billyman on November 20, 2006, 05:17:58 PM
another sign billys evil he wants the innocent king killed

i dunno, no sense of humour at all ::)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 20, 2006, 05:43:57 PM
Yeah we should let SVH pick a new king.

There's no point in option B because we know Mo1ey is innocent so we'd just be another townie down
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: Sir Villain on November 20, 2006, 05:53:08 PM
Der Hammer and Steveryals still read this despite being long gone so why dont we invite one of them back?

Unfair on the mafia, arguably they killed us because they feared us the most.

I think you should just take a break from the game a couple of days while Hippo finds a replacement. The game has been going on for about a month and a bit, so whats a few days? Moley was online today so maybe next time he might take a look.


_________

Meanwhile....

a young man runs into the middle of the group. "Where is the King? The peasants are revolting"

"of course they are, their peasants" on of you says.

"no they are rebelling against the feudal system, where is the king?"

One of you tells him the bad news. >:(

"well you must come help us,  http://happyaxeman.co.uk/community/index.php?topic=8286.0 (http://happyaxeman.co.uk/community/index.php?topic=8286.0)"
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 20, 2006, 07:03:41 PM
I know Hippo said dead people cannot replace Moley but surely Sir Hammer if he would do it would be the perfect choice.

He is the only person who has the same role as Moley, is always active.

Surely it would solve this problem
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 21, 2006, 07:32:16 AM
TREASON!! TREASON I TELL YOU!! Trying to kill the king of Axeman. How dare you. How dare all of you? May plagues run through your houses
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: Sir Villain on November 21, 2006, 08:47:43 PM
A replacement has been found.....

as soon as its cleared with Hippo, Evil Sooty will be taking Moleys place.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 22, 2006, 09:49:31 AM
But he is evil
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 22, 2006, 09:28:49 PM
*sigh its obvious who the mafia are but the game looks dead.  :-\

i wish people wouldnt mess us around when signing up for these mafia games. It ruins it completely.  :(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: evilsooty on November 23, 2006, 10:10:39 AM
bah, i come back and its dead...typical
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 23, 2006, 10:21:12 AM
It only went dead when Mo1ey stopped playing. Day 6 had shizzle loads of replies
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 23, 2006, 10:51:39 AM
It only went dead when Mo1ey stopped playing. Day 6 had shizzle loads of replies

True, just a suggestion Sooty but I'd take a while reading back over the past pages so you get a grasp of where the game is ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: evilsooty on November 23, 2006, 11:02:24 AM
True, just a suggestion Sooty but I'd take a while reading back over the past pages so you get a grasp of where the game is ;)

/me blinks

Better give me whilst tonight...  Theres a lot to digest...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: Mo1ey UK
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 23, 2006, 12:20:59 PM
welcome mr sooty, to be honest i dont think you have a hard decision to make, axeman was clearly killed of because he was onto something... basically currie is guilty as sin, as the evidence i provided proves.  he is 100% assassin, i would bet my life on it
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 23, 2006, 01:49:28 PM
Sorry, what evidence? The only thing I can remember is Laser voting for the same people as me.

Loads of people have voted for the same people as Laser. Maybe you killed Laser because you knew it would make you look innocent and you are infact guilty!

Then again maybe not. My prime suspect is still Yorkshire
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 23, 2006, 02:16:42 PM
Mr prime suspects are that currie bloke n the lad from yorkshire. i got my eye on u. is the game over then. whats goin on?


___________________ ___________________ ____

It was just having a brief pause whilst a replacement for mo1ey was found. It's now back on fully as evilsooty has replaced him becoming the king. Should have made a proper announcement really, sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: evilsooty on November 23, 2006, 02:34:14 PM
/me looks over the mob and then takes a seat

Okay...  we need to find these assassins, as your King for the day I intend to be even and fair handed, soooooo persuade me, who should we hang, draw and quarter, then in a kingly manner I shall stick said heads person on a spike as a warning to all other assassins...

If you want me I shall be with the royal conubines, and as many of the local wenches as is kingly possibly...  And whoever is king next, dont expect there to be any of that old reserve wine left, or honey glazed ham for that matter!!!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: hippo on November 23, 2006, 03:10:50 PM
Your royal highness, your loyal scribe presents you with the following list, headed 'vote count'.

Currieman: ManicMonkeyMan, Steve Van Halen, yorkshireblue (3)
Yorkshireblue: Currieman, Billyman, fozza (3)
Billyman: Currieman, ChurchofHalo (2)
ChurchofHalo: Billyman (1)

p.s. It's different to other games you've played in, people are allowed to vote for more than one person, because they don't actually result in the lynch. It's just showing which player most people are suspicious of.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: evilsooty on November 23, 2006, 03:19:38 PM
/me returns for a brief period to catch his breath...

Reading through the long manuscript im coming close to a decision, I believe the following most likely to be assassins...

Fozza
Currieman
Yorkshireblue

Im leaning towards the summary execution of Fozza for high treason, which (if proven correctly) Im going to have a public, bloody execution before I return back to my hovel to eat gruel and help old ladies cross the road, where I can go back to mourning the death of Hammer :(, so unless anyone can persuade me otherwise with a decent argument...
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 23, 2006, 04:21:24 PM
i have said all i need to say, im not to sure about fozza.. he has'nt given much away as he hasnt really posted that often.  axeman was a cop and had high suspicions on currieman... maybe he was investigated and came back guilty, but before axeman could say anything. hey presto hes brown bread :-X
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 23, 2006, 06:28:38 PM
just kill yorkshire. he is an assassin. my gut feelin tells me so. if i am wrong so be it and you can kill me. even tho i am only a townie. but thats your choice. it could be currie but i'm not too sure. i just dont know anymore. whwhwhwywyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 23, 2006, 06:54:56 PM
just kill yorkshire. he is an assassin. my gut feelin tells me so. if i am wrong so be it and you can kill me. even tho i am only a townie. but thats your choice. it could be currie but i'm not too sure. i just dont know anymore. whwhwhwywyyyyyyy
y kill me theres no reason fozzas looking suspicous

beleive me and manic that currieman is 100% evil
also i think billyman could be evil
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: Steve Van Halen on November 23, 2006, 09:20:08 PM
Fozza and yorkshire are both prime suspects to me but for the moment i think its curriemans turn to be lead to the gallows. I stick with my vote
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 23, 2006, 09:50:24 PM
y kill me theres no reason fozzas looking suspicous

beleive me and manic that currieman is 100% evil
also i think billyman could be evil

So you start by trying to push the blame towards Fozza by saying that he's looking suspicious.

Then you say "believe me and manic". Er, you have never put any points across about me. Only Manic has. It would seem you are trying to make an ally by agreeing with somebody else and I think it's a load of bullshit and you and Laser were working together.

As I've said before, if I was an assassin why would I kill Axeman because, as Manic has said, that would make me look really suspicious.

That's the reason that I think someone's tried to set me up.

Yorkshire is my number 1 suspect.
Fozza I'm not so sure about anymore. He's posted quite a lot on day 6 and there haven't really been any suspicious posts that stick out.

I'm sticking with my vote for Yorkshire!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 23, 2006, 10:59:30 PM
well alot of people seem to think im evil well il confess infact im a cop
last night i investigated currieman he cameback guilty
il probably get killed now
so execute currieman

anything to say currieman
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 23, 2006, 11:11:55 PM
I don't believe you at all

The reason being that Axeman was a cop and it's unlikely that there were 2 cops.

I think you're just trying to get people on side by saying you're a cop so that Sooty doesn't kill you.

I could just as easily say that I am the doctor but that wouldn't be true. I am just a townie.

You really should've thought about what role you'd claim to have as you'd probably have been able to get away with a doctor but you are not a cop.

I am now 99.9% certain that Yorkshire is an assassin
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: yorkshire blue on November 23, 2006, 11:34:42 PM
execute me then you willsoon find out im a cop
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: billyman on November 24, 2006, 12:07:02 AM
if you were a cop then you should of put forward some info earlier >:D >:D >:D

VOTE : YORKSHIREBLUE

simply he is holding onto straws ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: evilsooty on November 24, 2006, 09:15:42 AM
Despite Injuries which were caused by this Kingdoms Harlots, Honey Glazed Ham and the finest reserve spirits, I believe that...

Fozza and Yorkshire Blue should both be put to death, however I can only pick one, so I hereby order that by popular public demand Yorkshire Blue be put to death by manner of being hung drawn and quartered as an assassin!

/me burps
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 24, 2006, 09:39:29 AM
if he is not an assassin the next king must look at currieman, but i will probably end up dead in the night. so it will probably be up to the rest of you lot to get the job done.. i sure hope your right john :-\
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 24, 2006, 12:15:14 PM
oh well, looks like the townies are going to loose this. another Innocent sent to his death.  :-X
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Day Six, KING: evilsooty
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 24, 2006, 12:24:00 PM
Can't see how Currieman or Billyman escaped this round >:(, we are running out of time and townies :(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Night Six
Post by: hippo on November 24, 2006, 02:39:41 PM
The group swarm around yorkshireblue, convinced they've found their second assassin. He puts up resistance to begin with but eventually, he goes quietly to the execution square. He's heard muttering things under his breath, presumably cursing his fate that he'd been found as an assassin. But as the execution is completed, and yorkshire hung, the baying mob's lust for vengeance is handed a bitter blow. The search of the body reveals that as he had claimed, the town had just lynched a member of the police force. They slope back off to their homes, knowing that they may well have just sealed the fate of their own town. Worrying that one of them, like all the previous nights, might not emerge in the morning.


The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One
Bluestarsneyes, Townie: Executed on Day Two
Sir Hammer, Mason: Shot on Night Two
The Quigmaster, Townie: Executed on Day Three
dotLeo, Townie: Shot on Night Three
afroboy, Townie: Executed on Day Four
Amadjin, Townie: Shot on Night Four
Laserblue, Assassin: Executed on Day Five
Happy Axeman, Cop: Shot on Night Five
Yorkshireblue, Cop: Executed on Day Six

IT IS NOW NIGHT SIX, THOSE WITH NIGHT ACTIONS ARE NOW PERMITTED TO USE THEM. THE DAY WILL START ONCE I'VE RECEIVED THEM ALL.


Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: hippo on November 24, 2006, 04:45:31 PM
The town wake early, as screams of terror echo through the night sky of the formerly tranquil kingdom of Solomonia. Everybody rushes to the source of them, where they find the ManicMonkeyMan still in bed, unmoved by the commotion - dead. The group mourn and return to the square, where they gather staring at Currieman as they await the announcement as to who will send him to his death.

The royal guards bring the message that ChurchofHalo is the man selected as the new king. "Shall we just kill him now?" one rages, and moves towards Currieman. But Church calls the man back. "With only six left, it's crucial that we execute the right man - and it's crucial that we have the right man in charge." They look at him bemused, as he walks over to the royal guard, requesting the king's sword.

"With only 6 of us left, if the responsibility fell in to the wrong hands, this could be the end of our town." Church proclaims.

Steve Van Halen turns to him, "That's why i've chosen you, how can you want to kill anyone else? Two cops have named him as guilty."

Church continues, ignoring the word of the kingmaker. "Only, this is a new beginning for us all. I mean, not all of us obviously", he turns to Steve Van Halen, slashing him with the sword.

"The responsibility didn't fall in to the right hands" he laughs.

Currieman and Billyman step forward, joining in the laughter, killing fozza and evil sooty with a victorious evil. They gather as a group, the new rulers of the kingdom. The town have failed to stop them.

With an assasin named as king, and the sides equal, the town's hopes, and consequently their lives, have disappeared.


The Deceased
Tommy Catons Hairstylist, Townie: Executed on Day One
Stevenryals, Townie: Shot on Night One
Bluestarsneyes, Townie: Executed on Day Two
Sir Hammer, Mason: Shot on Night Two
The Quigmaster, Townie: Executed on Day Three
dotLeo, Townie: Shot on Night Three
afroboy, Townie: Executed on Day Four
Amadjin, Townie: Shot on Night Four
Laserblue, Assassin: Executed on Day Five
Happy Axeman, Cop: Shot on Night Five
Yorkshireblue, Cop: Executed on Day Six
ManicMonkeyMan, Townie: Shot on Night Six
Steve Van Halen, Kingmaker: Killed in endgame
Fozza Gump, Townie: Killed in endgame
evilsooty, Mason: Killed in endgame

Players Alive
Billyman, Assassin
ChurchofHalo, Assassin
Currieman, Assassin


GAME OVER, THE ASSASSINS ARE VICTORIOUS.

Here's what everyone did:

ACTIONS

Pre-Game
Steve Van Halen selects Yorkshireblue as King.

Day One
Yorkshireblue executes Tommy Catons Hairstylist

Night One
Yorkshireblue investigates Stevenryals
Happy Axeman investigates dotLeo
The Assassins kill Stevenryals
Steve Van Halen selects: 1) Stevenryals; 2) Currieman as King.

Day Two
Currieman executes Bluestarsneyes

Night Two
Yorkshireblue investigates Sir Hammer
Happy Axeman investigates  afroboy
The Assassins kill Sir Hammer
Steve Van Halen selects: 1) Billyman; 2) DotLeo as King.

Day Three
Billyman executes  The Quigmaster

Night Three
Yorkshireblue investigates dotLeo
Happy Axeman investigates Amadjin
The Assassins kill dotLeo
Steve Van Halen selects: 1) Happy Axeman 2) N/A

Day Four
Happy Axeman executes  afroboy

Night Four
Yorkshireblue investigates Laserblue
Happy Axeman investigates Laserblue
The Assassins kill Amadjin
Steve Van Halen selects: 1) Amadjin 2) Manic

Day Five
ManicMonkeyMan executes  Laserblue

Night Five
Yorkshireblue investigates Currieman
Happy Axeman investigates Currieman
The Assassins kill Happy Axeman
Steve Van Halen selects: 1) Happy Axeman 2) Mo1ey UK

Day Six
evil sooty (replacing mo1ey) executes Yorkshire blue

Night Six
Steve Van Halen selects: 1) Manic 2) ChurchofHalo
The Assasins kill Manic.

Any feedback, suggestions for improvements or anything? Cheers.

Well played to Currie, Laser, Billy and Church. A pretty flawless display of mafia play.  :laugh:

And thanks to all for playing.  :)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: Sir Villain on November 24, 2006, 04:49:51 PM
Worst ever town performance?

Myself included, im not quite sure why the Mafia killed me. I was well of with all my ideas.

Well done to the Mafia team, who played well but were helped by a few crucical strokes of luck. Yorkshire only investigating people that got killed and Steve Van Halen making 3 of you Kings  ;)

Bring on Lost, or Peasant mafia!
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 24, 2006, 04:52:45 PM
well done there sooty, cost us dear >:(.   it was obvious billy and currieman were mafia, how currieman survived that last day, i will never no, all the evidence was there fpr all to see, obviousley except john ???   but fair play to churcy, you went the whole way undetected.  but anyway rant over well played the 4 of you

well done there hippo, very good game ,it looked like it was dyeing abit at one point, but thankfully it picked up again.  it would also help in future if people did not kill of the main contributers in the game so early, it ruins the game.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: billyman on November 24, 2006, 05:04:20 PM
woohoo :D

well played lads ;) unlucky townies :laugh:

big applause to currieman for his excellant team work

i hope i confused you all as much as i confused myself :laugh:

 :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :2funny: :yahoo: :yahoo: :bleh: :tease:

well done to hippo for a well thought out and executed game :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: Sir Villain on November 24, 2006, 05:05:54 PM
agreed, it is an excellent concept. looking forward to Kingmaker II

Currieman has given me the green light for Peasant Mafia, and I aim to have roles going out by next friday. Will the peasants take revenge for the assassins ruling the capital?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 24, 2006, 05:10:00 PM
Absolutely brilliant game. First time I've been mafia as well and we won :D

We got very lucky early on with nobody really looking at any of the 4 of us at all.

We did really well until around about day 5 when people started to pick up on things and towards the end it became obvious that I was evil. Especially after Laser voted for the same people as me ::)

Had to kill Axeman as he would've said that I was evil.

Well played to all 4 mafia dudes. Laser got a bit unlucky, Billy was just mad :laugh: and Churchy managed to avoid attracting any suspicion at all :D

Great game, look forward to another Kingmaker, it's a good concept

Once again, well done mafia :yahoo: :yahoo:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: ManicMonkeyMan on November 24, 2006, 05:19:08 PM
when you starting yours alex ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: Sir Villain on November 24, 2006, 05:21:18 PM
have i noticed a Hagler like moment of foolishless from our own leader of the site Axeman himself?


Night Two

Happy Axeman investigates  afroboy


Day Four
Happy Axeman executes  afroboy


Explain yourself!!!!!


working for the mafia as a double agent?
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: billyman on November 24, 2006, 05:26:44 PM
he has already explained in the game that he meant to execute laser and wrote afro :laugh: :laugh:

nice one axey :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: Sir Villain on November 24, 2006, 05:27:35 PM
right, i must have missed that bit.

Still ... >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 24, 2006, 05:27:42 PM
Yeah, Hammer he did say after he executed Afroboy that he had meant to execute Laserblue but typed in the wrong name :laugh:

A bit more luck for us.

@ Manic - Mine will be starting soon. Just need to make sure that everyone still wants to play
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: Happy Axeman on November 24, 2006, 05:29:59 PM
ive already mentioned what a mistake i made and how rather embarassing it was in my execution of Afroboy.

It was a mixture of posting in between working 14 hour days/nights and being wrecked.
I had intended to execute Laserblue or Currieman, but for some strange and unknown reason i ended up writing Afroboy!! :2funny:

I knew Churchy was a wrong one, which is why i highlighted his posts in an earlier thread, and he would of been the next investigated after Currieman, as I also knew Billy was an assassin near the end of my life, so i would of been gunning for him to be lynched.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: billyman on November 24, 2006, 05:30:32 PM
not according to hammer :D yours is starting shortly ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 24, 2006, 05:32:06 PM
I've edited my post Billy ;) :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 24, 2006, 05:36:56 PM
Got to say quite pleased with my work in this game :D

Acused and got Laserblue lynched just as people were suspecting me made me look whiter than white.

Happy was catching on I think he said something like "unless Churchy has some plan he can't be guilty"

Good work lads ;)
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: hippo on November 24, 2006, 05:53:05 PM
Excellent display by the mafia. The kills on stevenryals and Manic were both pretty inspired, earning them the kingship, and i don't think there was any way they could have lost in the last few days - Church lived up to his title as the best mafia player, with a completely undetected performance, and classic use of the misdirection votes. I really don't know how Currie talked his way out of being called the number one suspect by a dead cop though  :laugh:.

Yorkshire was pretty unlucky early on with the first three investigations he made ending up dead by the next morning. But maybe his reveal was a bit mistimed. And SVH was very unlucky with his number one choices being killed consistently. And in 6 days, he managed to have both cops as king, which is pretty good going.

Anyone got any thoughts on the roles included/not included? The reason there was no doctor in this game is i thought that it could have made it very one sided for the town, if a cop claimed early, and had guaranteed protection throughout the game - especially with the king setup in this game. I did think the hero role would have been claimed at some point by somebody who was looking like they might be killed. I didn't put one in the game, so any claim of it would have pretty much got them through to the end of the game. No vigilante either obviously, because that would have unbalanced it too. But you might find that some of these roles turn up in 'Kingmaker II' in the future. If anyone would want a second one obviously  ;).
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on November 24, 2006, 06:17:54 PM
But you might find that some of these roles turn up in 'Kingmaker II' in the future. If anyone would want a second one obviously  ;).
I'd definetely like a 2nd one.

This one was really good
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: laserblue on November 24, 2006, 08:21:14 PM
 >:D He He He  >:D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on November 25, 2006, 12:46:51 AM
well done Mafiosa, looking forward to the next one. Well done to Hippo on running a good game
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: evilsooty on November 25, 2006, 07:59:58 PM
well done there sooty, cost us dear >:(.

So the other 5 wrongly executed had no bearing at all on the assassins winning, im not too fussed anyway, in my one day as king I was so prolific that the whole land will be full of my children in nine months anyhow :D
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: fozza gump zzz on November 26, 2006, 09:11:51 PM
well at least i made it to the end of the game. u did play well assassins. cant believe that the two people sooty suspected were two townies. ur a waste of time. lol. well played church and billy. Currie i did suspect you but you kind of had me turned around so well done to ya mate.  Good game everyone. Look forward to the next one.
Title: Re: Mafia Eight - The Kingmaker - Game Over, Assassins Victory
Post by: ChurchofHalo on November 27, 2006, 09:02:11 PM
The kingmaker hjad soem bad luck appointing Billyman and Currieman back to back :laugh: