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Title: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on September 15, 2008, 09:52:50 AM
00:00

Everyone arrives at CTU hoping today is a quiet day but it sure as hell isn't. Reports come in fast that a commuter train has exploded on route through New York killing 200 people and a plane has also exploded over the Mojave desert. No terrorist groups have claimed responsibility as yet but all the workers at CTU immediately get to work trying to track down and eliminate the terrorists!

Players alive
Mikeblue
TCH
Sir Hammer
MiasG
StevenRyals
Bluestars
Hammerbro
Happy Axeman
Hippo
Trick Pony
Laserblue
Afroboy
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

In terms of specific rules for this game it is just the same as any other mafia game only themed on 24. There will be no 1 hour deadlines etc. The clock is ticking, let the games begin :D

1. Votes must be in bold. If you do not bold your vote, it will not be counted.

2. Please be attentive and unvote, if necessary, before casting a new vote. This is not required, but I'd appreciate it.

3. Lynches will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, any pleas are useless (No Matter how feeble and desperate they sound) and any unvotes will not count. If enough votes have been received and I haven't started the night you can still all post and witter on. This is referred to as Twilght period

4. You may vote: no lynch. Majority votes of this kind are necessary to end the day without a death.
Voting for yourself is just for show and wont actually count.

5. The game is not to be discussed outside of the thread unless your role specifically states that you may do so.

6. Once your death scene has been posted, you?re dead. Stop typing. I will allow a single no-content 'bah' post, but that's it.
(For Example: Manics "Boooo, Axeman is not in my Mafia" post was not allowed, but if he had said "Booooo, you tossers. Mafia will prevail" then that would have been fine)

7. Don't edit/delete previously submitted posts. Whatever you post, stays on permanent record. This includes editing spelling or grammar mistakes. Just dont do it

8. Don't quote any PMs from me, or attempt to fake one by me

9. If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. Failure to submit a choice will result in you taking no action.

10. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread or PM me. Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate. Don't leave us hanging.

11. If a deadline is placed, a lynch will require a majority of the normal majority. For example, if it's 5 to lynch normally, 3 votes will suffice at the deadline. If more than one player has enough votes to be lynched at the deadline in this manner, it will be a no-lynch.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 15, 2008, 11:08:56 AM
fos mikeblue :laugh:
been good all his games as to be evil this one >:D :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 15, 2008, 12:25:53 PM
intersting story line .. could that mean there are 2 mafia cells? 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 15, 2008, 12:34:55 PM
Dont watch 24, so no idea about the chars. I guess i'll read wiki or something later.
Fos STEVENRYALS, as he hasnt posted yet. lol
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 15, 2008, 01:06:24 PM
intersting story line .. could that mean there are 2 mafia cells? 

FOS MIASG for trying to lead us into the conclusion that their are only two mafia cells ...

FOS TCH for reading and not posting seems mafia like already ...

After watching most of the tv series I think there will definatley be at least one suicide bomber, and a cult ... any thoughts on the setup ?

 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 15, 2008, 01:22:09 PM
vote Trick Pony

for a blatent lie, as you were aware as miasg and myself that the topic was locked at work today so we could not post. So you are as usual stirring the pot and trying to get people to think me suspicious for not posting when it was impossible to do so

not watched 24 so will pick it up as i go along
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 15, 2008, 02:00:52 PM
FOS MIASG for trying to lead us into the conclusion that their are only two mafia cells ...
are you saying there are more than 2 ?  I think you've possibly made a big mafia mistake

VOTE TRICK PONY plus when will you ever play the game and not make it about me .. It might be funny for you but the rest of the mafia players are probably as sick of it as I am. And how would you know if TCH was reading and not posting?  I was there when he said it was still locked and this was before Currieman's post about the game.  I know the first posts are usually a gag at someone eg Happy's at Steve but this is ridiculous.

I've watched most of the series but while there's always a terrorist plot I don't think it really matters if you know the show or not.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Quig on September 15, 2008, 02:09:41 PM
Bit early for votes at the moment. Best to assess the situation. 15 peopl. Proberly 5/6 evil people. So either 2 mafia or 1 mafia a cult and a serial killer in my eyes. Or even a bigger mafia. 2 different attacks doesnt mean 2 mafia. Its proberly just to show that there is a mafia as oppossed to an unlucky event.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 15, 2008, 03:40:55 PM
Dont watch 24, so no idea about the chars. I guess i'll read wiki or something later.
Fos STEVENRYALS, as he hasnt posted yet. lol

Funny axeman, i actually posted last night before bed as currieman opened the thread, i requested details on the game..  :)  so, as usual..  I'm first to post, and most likely will be most often to post as well. 

I've advised bluestars that the game has started..  currie, if you sent the role to mophead please resend it to bluestars as little moppy will be focusing on school work for a few weeks..   
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 15, 2008, 03:48:48 PM
are you saying there are more than 2 ?  I think you've possibly made a big mafia mistake

I read that and thought the same thing.. 

but i think he's just picking on anything MIASG says and trying to make something of it..

I agree with MIASGs idea that there may be 2 mafia's in this one..  but I would suspect that the mafia's aren't ajoined and dont know who each other are..  so even if TP was mafia, I dont think he'd know if there were 2 or 3 or 4 different groups..  if it's terrorist cells, then we're probably talking 2 mafia in each cell with one head honcho who controls the cells.  They will probably have the ability to demand a cell send a suicide attack or something of that nature.. 

On the other hand, Currieman could have given the cells more information than they have in reality, since i'm sure no body has the ability to torture and persicute the terrorists if they are captured..  in reality, the cells dont know of other cells or who are their partners etc etc, as to protect the other cells in the event of a raid or something.. but in this game, currie may have seen fit to tell them who was in each cell..  ?? 

So, long story long...

TP said what he said because either 1) he's retarded, town, and simply wants to screw with MIASG  or 2) he knows that there are more than 2, and has made a big mistake early on..

thats my take on it anyway..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 15, 2008, 06:43:52 PM
Not really sure what to make of the votes for Trick Pony. It kind of seems like you lot all just vote for and accuse each other all the time. Makes it hard to judge.

As for some of the theories being put forward: multiple mafias is a possibility, but i'd think only two was realistic. Or maybe 3 two man ones at a push, but i think it's unlikely. I think there'll be a serial killer, or someone who's evil and on their own - Nina Myers probably? Can't really see how you'd make a cult fit in to the theme to be honest, but it shouldn't be ruled out.

The plane exploding over the Mojave Desert is from Season 4, where the president's plane is bombed and crashes there. So potentially, we might be on that story arc. It involves one lead terrorist (Marwan), who is in charge of a series of terrorist cells that do various damage over the day, and their quest to set off a nuclear missile. Not guaranteed obviously, but just a thought.

Any terrorist groups fancy claiming responsibility?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 15, 2008, 08:21:04 PM
maybe as 24 goes you think you have a good role as town, then currieman will change your role, as that what happens in 24, for eg - As hippo says Nina Myers was a good cop in the first series then turned bad!. Why couldn't this happen with the mafia game?

This is why we need to vote a bit more carefully and not vote someone straight away!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 15, 2008, 09:28:27 PM
could be some teams forming early..  some going after TP... some protecting..  but too early to tell really..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 15, 2008, 10:28:02 PM
vote Trick Pony

for a blatent lie, as you were aware as miasg and myself that the topic was locked at work today so we could not post. So you are as usual stirring the pot and trying to get people to think me suspicious for not posting when it was impossible to do so

not watched 24 so will pick it up as i go along


Yeah thats true while we were at work, though I presumed you would have checked when you got home at some stage. Looks like you and MIASG are in cahoots  ;D  voting out of the ordinary over something like that seems way to recless I understand MIASG being recless though im surprised about you TCH
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 15, 2008, 10:32:30 PM
are you saying there are more than 2 ?  I think you've possibly made a big mafia mistake

VOTE TRICK PONY plus when will you ever play the game and not make it about me .. It might be funny for you but the rest of the mafia players are probably as sick of it as I am. And how would you know if TCH was reading and not posting?  I was there when he said it was still locked and this was before Currieman's post about the game.  I know the first posts are usually a gag at someone eg Happy's at Steve but this is ridiculous.

I've watched most of the series but while there's always a terrorist plot I don't think it really matters if you know the show or not.

Yes it does, the game will always be based on the tv series, so go hire out the tv series and rewatch it a you obviously didnt the first time ??? there are multiple groups of bad guys that pop up through the entire thing. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 15, 2008, 10:36:00 PM
Not really sure what to make of the votes for Trick Pony. It kind of seems like you lot all just vote for and accuse each other all the time. Makes it hard to judge.

As for some of the theories being put forward: multiple mafias is a possibility, but i'd think only two was realistic. Or maybe 3 two man ones at a push, but i think it's unlikely. I think there'll be a serial killer, or someone who's evil and on their own - Nina Myers probably? Can't really see how you'd make a cult fit in to the theme to be honest, but it shouldn't be ruled out.

The plane exploding over the Mojave Desert is from Season 4, where the president's plane is bombed and crashes there. So potentially, we might be on that story arc. It involves one lead terrorist (Marwan), who is in charge of a series of terrorist cells that do various damage over the day, and their quest to set off a nuclear missile. Not guaranteed obviously, but just a thought.

Any terrorist groups fancy claiming responsibility?

I suggest MIASG and TCH at this stage
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 16, 2008, 12:49:29 AM
well TP's agenda for mafia is to last longer than miasg and myself i think.

 The fact is that we all work within a 5 metre radius of each other. TP keeps smirking and wants to play this time making me believe he has a role of sorts, be it good or bad.


Yeah thats true while we were at work, though I presumed you would have checked when you got home at some stage. Looks like you and MIASG are in cahoots  ;D  voting out of the ordinary over something like that seems way to recless I understand MIASG being recless though im surprised about you TCH

So you admitted you did lie in your first post. Not very good and honest is it ?

Lots of ideas on the theme, and most seem to think that there could be more than one mafia group
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 16, 2008, 01:13:30 AM
I suggest MIASG and TCH at this stage
of course you would you attacked us both in your first post - that's the only link I can see. 


Hippo my vote for TP is based purely on the fact that he sits behind me and waits for me to type a response to him .. he has basically said he's after me and continually tries to talk about the game outside the thread.  He comes on and attacks his 2 workmates with lies and tries to pin me for leading a conclusion  ??? not to mention putting us both as the only 2 possible terrorists in the game.  I think I just put out a theory.  Is he mafia/non-townie and made a mistake?  possibly .. is he townie and making what seems to be stupid statements?  possibly

It might be funny for him but after 6-7 games it 's all that seems to happen to me until he or I die.  Please excuse me if I completely ignore his posts for a while and try to get on with the task at hand.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 16, 2008, 02:17:05 AM
well TP's agenda for mafia is to last longer than miasg and myself i think.

 The fact is that we all work within a 5 metre radius of each other. TP keeps smirking and wants to play this time making me believe he has a role of sorts, be it good or bad.


So you admitted you did lie in your first post. Not very good and honest is it ?

Lots of ideas on the theme, and most seem to think that there could be more than one mafia group

No not lying, during the day at work we all saw that it was still locked, then after going out last night i got home at about 11pm and logged on and it was open, now there is absolutley no way the both you and MIASG wouldnt have posted before I did which is what I ment.  O0
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 16, 2008, 02:24:57 AM
of course you would you attacked us both in your first post - that's the only link I can see. 


Hippo my vote for TP is based purely on the fact that he sits behind me and waits for me to type a response to him .. he has basically said he's after me and continually tries to talk about the game outside the thread.  He comes on and attacks his 2 workmates with lies and tries to pin me for leading a conclusion  ??? not to mention putting us both as the only 2 possible terrorists in the game.  I think I just put out a theory.  Is he mafia/non-townie and made a mistake?  possibly .. is he townie and making what seems to be stupid statements?  possibly

It might be funny for him but after 6-7 games it 's all that seems to happen to me until he or I die.  Please excuse me if I completely ignore his posts for a while and try to get on with the task at hand.

Well I can see when you two read the posts and dont post comments so why wouldnt I be suspicious of you two  ???  Im just pointing it out for everyone to see as we all know the first day is the hardest to pick.

Also I can understand MIASG's vote as he loves to hate me, but TCH ... every good role that hes had hes always posted one liners to say im still here though doesnt attack or try to provoke anyone, so I think he definatley has an evil role in the game.

I cant comment on others who dont post so why would i bother with them  ??? Steve and the rest have just come online with nothing much to say.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 16, 2008, 03:38:39 AM
No not lying, during the day at work we all saw that it was still locked, then after going out last night i got home at about 11pm and logged on and it was open, now there is absolutley no way the both you and MIASG wouldnt have posted before I did which is what I ment.  O0
 

I think you'll find I did log in and post before you :clown: so stop trying to accuse me of something in every post.  It wouldn't bother me if there was substance behind it but there's not.  We are still on page 1 so it's not that long ago for you to remember.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 16, 2008, 03:46:41 AM
Well I can see when you two read the posts and dont post comments so why wouldnt I be suspicious of you two  ???  Im just pointing it out for everyone to see as we all know the first day is the hardest to pick.

Also I can understand MIASG's vote as he loves to hate me, but TCH ... every good role that hes had hes always posted one liners to say im still here though doesnt attack or try to provoke anyone, so I think he definatley has an evil role in the game.

I cant comment on others who dont post so why would i bother with them  ??? Steve and the rest have just come online with nothing much to say.
I can't see your logic .. you say you can't comment on others posts but you FOS TCH only before he actually posts.  And you attack me straight up for a possible theory that you have declared is wrong .. I think you'll find alot of people haven't posted yet and some of them have probably read what's happened so far going by the views on this topic.  Why not attack one of them at random ?  I think you've dug yourself a hole and can't really get out of it .. and you've done this many times before but you end up confusing everyone to your true intentions thus saving yourself as they leave you alone.  I however can't as it's always against me and if I say nothing then I always get accused of hiding or fence sitting or something quite strange.  My vote won't change unless I think your def townie or some other mafia is more deserved of my vote.   
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on September 16, 2008, 11:10:30 AM
The director of CTU (me :D) walks in and announces that he wants results! "There are some fucking terrorist bastards out there destroying things and blowing shit up, GO AND FIND THEM!" He also remembers that he forgot to say how many people need to vote for someone before they get lynched :laugh:

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 16, 2008, 11:26:14 AM
I believe at least 1 evil role messes up on the first days every game... Maybe we have seen TP slip up already. time will tell.

Laserblue, Afroboy, MIkeblue, Sir hammer, Masterzulu and bluestars are still to post....
Strange of Mikeblue, he's usually busier than that and usually one of the first to post, same as Laser...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 16, 2008, 11:50:18 AM
cant the three aussies stop going after one another its the same every game it just ruins it
i will leave my vote for now because theres no one really looking sus
there is still alot of people to vote aswell
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 16, 2008, 12:13:01 PM
I'm here people!!!

Well the usual down under shit going on which I have come to expect.

I havn't watched any of 24 so can someone kindly explain what peeps are talking about when you go on about terriost cells and this 2 mafia stuff???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 16, 2008, 12:27:49 PM
me neither mike, the only one I think i know is Frank, thats kiether sutherland. he's the good guy. lol

Read wiki.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 16, 2008, 12:44:24 PM
well the easiest way to stop it is get rid of the instigator. Miasg and myself do not carry on against one another in this or the last game, there is one common denominator. It spoils it for us as much as for you. So if you don't like it vote him off you won't have any objections from me.

Otherwise TP can try playing the game and cast suspicions on other people.


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 16, 2008, 12:52:04 PM
well the easiest way to stop it is get rid of the instigator. Miasg and myself do not carry on against one another in this or the last game, there is one common denominator. It spoils it for us as much as for you. So if you don't like it vote him off you won't have any objections from me.

Otherwise TP can try playing the game and cast suspicions on other people.




I have to admit it is amusing though  :laugh:

Well I'm waiting for everyone to post before I make my pot luck random 1st day vote which always seems to get a townie killed off!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 16, 2008, 02:51:03 PM
but TCH ... every good role that hes had hes always posted one liners to say im still here though doesnt attack or try to provoke anyone, so I think he definatley has an evil role in the game.

So you consider only an evil role to be a 'good' role.. ??

I cant comment on others who dont post so why would i bother with them  ??? Steve and the rest have just come online with nothing much to say.

Yes, i've just logged in, but my status is hidden and has been since 2 games ago when we decided that was best for the game and axeman disabled the 'who's online' function so people couldnt use that in the game.  You saying you see me online is a farce, because you dont.  FOS TP  you're not doing very well for yourself thus far today.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 16, 2008, 06:56:07 PM
So you consider only an evil role to be a 'good' role.. ??

I would agree a mafia/ cop / or any other role is a more interesting role than a townie role that does nothing.

Whats your point Steve?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 16, 2008, 07:39:35 PM
I would agree a mafia/ cop / or any other role is a more interesting role than a townie role that does nothing.

Whats your point Steve?

my point is, he said that TCH has a good role, so he must be mafia..  just didnt make any sense to me whatsoever..  it's equally possible that he's the complete opposite of mafia and keeping his head down.. or just not posting much??

he said: 
Quote
but TCH ... every good role that hes had hes always posted one liners to say im still here though doesnt attack or try to provoke anyone, so I think he definatley has an evil role in the game.

doesnt make sense does it...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 16, 2008, 07:51:11 PM
My thoughts so far:

Everyone seems to be dismissing this aussie conflict thing as something that just always happens, but we shouldn't necessarily. Trick Pony might have gone after his co-workers early in order to show everyone he's playing like he always does - causing a bit of conflict, annoying MIASG, and being involved. Without actually contributing all that much. Could be dodgy.  But then, he genuinely might just like winding up MIASG and TCH - which he seems fairly good at to be fair.

I know the reasons Trick Pony accused with were essentially nonsense, but it's still worked in getting reactions. Which we need from everyone. TCH seems highly annoyed to be centre of attention.. maybe it's ruining a plan to lay low on day one? From what i can remember, i've never seen him react to Trick Pony like that. Might be wrong, but i can't remember it. Could be a mafia sign? And he's been very quick to point out that the accusations are just what Trick Pony does to him, and no-one else should listen. Dunno what it is, but something seems dodgy to me.

MIASG i think has reacted how he does most games to Trick Pony. There's always a massive argument between them on day one. He could be evil, but not from what i've seen so far. Unless the two of them are evil together this time and have decided they need to argue like they usually do. I don't know yet.

Steven's last post seemed like a very forced accusation, but i can kind of understand that. There really isn't much to say at the moment is there? Over-eagerness to try and accuse people isn't suspicious. But he's a good player, so i'm not making any major judgements this early.

Everyone else seems to have just checked in and not said anything much. Can't really say much about them yet. If they carry on in that way throughout the day, then that's gonna be something that'll get more of a strong response from me. But it's acceptable for now.

Laserblue, Afroboy, Sir hammer, Masterzulu and bluestars all yet to post. Get involved.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on September 16, 2008, 08:12:25 PM
Just got back from a 2 day conference at the city of Manchester stadium, so I have been Reading when I can but not had time to post yet.

Not to familar with 24 but I'll try to catch up.

I see the fighting has started already, so let's get it on.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 16, 2008, 09:22:38 PM
My thoughts so far:

Everyone seems to be dismissing this aussie conflict thing as something that just always happens, but we shouldn't necessarily. Trick Pony might have gone after his co-workers early in order to show everyone he's playing like he always does - causing a bit of conflict, annoying MIASG, and being involved. Without actually contributing all that much. Could be dodgy.  But then, he genuinely might just like winding up MIASG and TCH - which he seems fairly good at to be fair.

I know the reasons Trick Pony accused with were essentially nonsense, but it's still worked in getting reactions. Which we need from everyone. TCH seems highly annoyed to be centre of attention.. maybe it's ruining a plan to lay low on day one? From what i can remember, i've never seen him react to Trick Pony like that. Might be wrong, but i can't remember it. Could be a mafia sign? And he's been very quick to point out that the accusations are just what Trick Pony does to him, and no-one else should listen. Dunno what it is, but something seems dodgy to me.

MIASG i think has reacted how he does most games to Trick Pony. There's always a massive argument between them on day one. He could be evil, but not from what i've seen so far. Unless the two of them are evil together this time and have decided they need to argue like they usually do. I don't know yet.

Steven's last post seemed like a very forced accusation, but i can kind of understand that. There really isn't much to say at the moment is there? Over-eagerness to try and accuse people isn't suspicious. But he's a good player, so i'm not making any major judgements this early.

Everyone else seems to have just checked in and not said anything much. Can't really say much about them yet. If they carry on in that way throughout the day, then that's gonna be something that'll get more of a strong response from me. But it's acceptable for now.

Laserblue, Afroboy, Sir hammer, Masterzulu and bluestars all yet to post. Get involved.

This is a long post that says nothing (maybe trying to get mileage on the board to make him look good?

pure commentry :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 16, 2008, 10:05:57 PM
more informative than your post there laserblue  lol
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 16, 2008, 10:25:44 PM
vote Trick Pony

for a blatent lie, as you were aware as miasg and myself that the topic was locked at work today so we could not post. So you are as usual stirring the pot and trying to get people to think me suspicious for not posting when it was impossible to do so

not watched 24 so will pick it up as i go along



FOS TCH, keep reading this and what keeps going threw my head is this:

Why react in that way?
if youre town then you would laugh it off. Only a person with a interesting role would surely react like that.

Im gonna keep a close eye on your post from now on i really dont trust you.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 16, 2008, 10:30:25 PM
more informative than your post there laserblue  lol

yeh I know :laugh: :2funny: :lol:

seriously weve all got to start somewhere ...... so i decided to start with one of the more experienced players ... peeps often shy away from challenging hippo until later in the game..... just hoping to get a reaction... but youve gone & spoiled that now :-X

Damn ...someone else has beat me to the post but I'm going to leave it as it is anyway


interesting one this ....

fos mikeblue :laugh:
been good all his games as to be evil this one >:D :laugh:

I remember yorkshire had a run in with mike last game.... could he of seen how some of the aussies start petty squabbles with each other to hide behind & decided to do the same ???

or was it just something to say to get his name out ?

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 16, 2008, 10:43:17 PM
at least yorkies making a contribution...

I think its been proven that we need to round up on the non players early in the games, keeping them in it and killing off the keener peeps only ruins the game.

wheres afroboy? he was on the forum earlier...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 16, 2008, 10:46:55 PM
at least yorkies making a contribution...

I think its been proven that we need to round up on the non players early in the games, keeping them in it and killing off the keener peeps only ruins the game.

wheres afroboy? he was on the forum earlier...

he's in his bedroom laughing at some programme on the telly .. I can here him ... Infact when I went in I'm sure he was laughing at my post... he knows how I feel about him not posting at the start of the game & letting all the other peeps do the dirty work..... anyway if your reading this afro ... get on & post >:(
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 16, 2008, 10:54:18 PM
what to think about Trick Pony saying that he saw me online..  when i'm clearly not shown as online for the past 2 games or whatever...  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 16, 2008, 10:56:57 PM
maybe he meant that you were posting on the forum in general?

at least he is posting. albeit dodgely.
maybe TP has slipped up, only time will tell and more of his actvitys and game plan is needed.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 16, 2008, 11:02:21 PM
just a quick update, bluestars is switching her whole company from paper checks to direct deposit this week, so will be scarce on the forum...  just fyi..  I'll see if I can get her to post some tonight, i have training @ 7pm so she'll have a bit of free time to read all thats gone on..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 16, 2008, 11:05:20 PM
Haha! I'm here, was going to post earlier when i was on but instead just read through, Fos Miasg
are you saying there are more than 2 ?  I think you've possibly made a big mafia mistake

VOTE TRICK PONY plus when will you ever play the game and not make it about me .. It might be funny for you but the rest of the mafia players are probably as sick of it as I am. And how would you know if TCH was reading and not posting?  I was there when he said it was still locked and this was before Currieman's post about the game.  I know the first posts are usually a gag at someone eg Happy's at Steve but this is ridiculous.

I've watched most of the series but while there's always a terrorist plot I don't think it really matters if you know the show or not.

the highlighted sentence sounds dodgy to me! also he was very quick to team up with tch, getting some allies early maybe?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 16, 2008, 11:14:48 PM
I can understand your point of view and I'll admit I'm a bit surprised at TCH's aggression towards TP but mine is a serious continual build up .. seeing how we all sit within a 3 m radius I'm putting it down to a case of he's as sick of it as I am.  I'm sure when I get into work (a little late today  :D) I'll be greeted with the usual "log on I posted about you again - you'll love it".  It would be good however if you could explain your attack on steven for being online - just to clarify the situation. 

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 16, 2008, 11:21:35 PM
So you consider only an evil role to be a 'good' role.. ??

Yes, i've just logged in, but my status is hidden and has been since 2 games ago when we decided that was best for the game and axeman disabled the 'who's online' function so people couldnt use that in the game.  You saying you see me online is a farce, because you dont.  FOS TP  you're not doing very well for yourself thus far today.

digging again Steve, read it again, "good role" i.e. townie
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 16, 2008, 11:27:57 PM
Well I'm waiting for everyone to post before I make my pot luck random 1st day vote which always seems to get a townie killed off!


a bit sus here...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 16, 2008, 11:33:25 PM
well the easiest way to stop it is get rid of the instigator. Miasg and myself do not carry on against one another in this or the last game, there is one common denominator. It spoils it for us as much as for you. So if you don't like it vote him off you won't have any objections from me.

Otherwise TP can try playing the game and cast suspicions on other people.




Hey I started out by FOSing you two to get you involved, then you both attacked me because your obviously both mafia in cahoots, I cant vote you two out by myself and everyone will eventually see that you have been foundout by your own stupid mistake of attacking me based on one line, with a quick TP vote.. I thought it would have been harder than that so im quite surprised

I bet your loving the spot light TCH welcome to the stage front row ... you evil evil man your probably Ira Gaines, and MIASG will be either Rick Allen or Dan Mounts not sure about anyone else yet since everything has been about the three of us for three pages again
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 17, 2008, 12:06:45 AM
what to think about Trick Pony saying that he saw me online..  when i'm clearly not shown as online for the past 2 games or whatever...  ???

Where did I say i "saw" you online ? I said earlier that "I cant comment on others who dont post so why would i bother with them   Steve and the rest have just come online with nothing much to say"  I was talking about everyone including yourself had posted but not said much as the game had just started so how could I comment on what you were saying ... compared to attacking TCH and MIASG as I know they had been looking at the game
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 17, 2008, 12:38:38 AM
Mikeblue         
TCH               >:D
Sir Hammer
MiasG
StevenRyals          :-\
Bluestars
Hammerbro
Happy Axeman      ;D
Hippo                    ???
Trick Pony             :D
Laserblue                :D
Afroboy                  ???
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue           ???
Masterzulu                ???


There my feelings on players so far!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 17, 2008, 12:47:11 AM
well everyone is being very guarded with their posts so far, not really giving anything away.

I'm not fussed if i'm in the spotlight or not, really i've modded 3 games so not played and then was killed during the day one night phase in the last game so i haven't really played much at all. So people trying to draw analogies about my style of play are really guessing.

TP has a role of some sort this time i'm positive. If it was a good role i would assume you would not try and draw too much attention to the mafia on day one so they might kill you right away before you get a chance to use it. Inferring that maisg and i are mafia seems foolish, if he was correct he would be a prime target to be killed at night. Though if evil then it's purely deflection in trying to make others to look evil and who better to choose that the usual in miasg and myself.

In LoTR mafia all TP wanted to do as a Nazgul was get to day 4 and kill miasg, killing maisg and myself is more important than winning the game. So beware if he's on your side as he's not a team player. Last game as miasg and i were killed in night one it got boring and he modkilled himself.



Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 17, 2008, 12:50:55 AM
i think i'll FOS Wes

too easy to consider me evil and give TP the big  :D 

if anything you'd have to consider us both suspicious, protecting your mate ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 17, 2008, 01:35:34 AM
LOL Wes looks sus because of the Arab/terrorist on the 500 Billion bill  :2funny:

I think only TP has made a mistake so far so for me it's way too early to make assumptions on others.  There's still a few who haven't surfaced yet. 

Mikeblue - why are you making a pot luck random vote? and why are you waiting until everyone posts? 

Wes what makes TP and Laserblue seem so good?  and seeing how I've posted as much if not more than most why no thought on me?

TCH your post about TP pretty much sums it up.

Afro what was wrong with my sentence you highlighted?  other mafia players (ie not mafia members) are probably as sick of it as I am - and people have said so. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 17, 2008, 12:48:00 PM
LOL Wes looks sus because of the Arab/terrorist on the 500 Billion bill  :2funny:

I think only TP has made a mistake so far so for me it's way too early to make assumptions on others.  There's still a few who haven't surfaced yet. 

Mikeblue - why are you making a pot luck random vote? and why are you waiting until everyone posts? 

Wes what makes TP and Laserblue seem so good?  and seeing how I've posted as much if not more than most why no thought on me?

TCH your post about TP pretty much sums it up.

Afro what was wrong with my sentence you highlighted?  other mafia players (ie not mafia members) are probably as sick of it as I am - and people have said so. 

I am waiting for more people to post so I can make some kind of educated guess. As always on day 1 it is pretty much pot luck. How many games is someone evil lynched in the first day??? Not many because there is nothing to go on and a townie always manages to get lynched. When I posted more than 50% had not posted yet so what am I going to do? Vote for someone?

From the games I have played the mafia tend to lie low the first few days and let town accuse town as they are the ones posting more in my opinion trying to find the mafia. It is easy for mafia to do the usual show up and post once in a while to not draw attention but still be seen to be playing so I am going to keep an eye out for this trend as to me this is a better tell than going after an eager poster on day 1. It is majoritly a guess on the first day as every other time we have got it wrong as far as I can remeber. Off the top of my head in all the games I have played I don't think we have ever lynched a mafia member first day bar the last one when Bluestars played and it like an absolute mere!  :laugh:

Still a few people yet to post and still nothing much happening than the usual Ausie stuff. I'm not dismissing it but am not jumping to any conclusions just yet.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 17, 2008, 12:49:53 PM
fair enough ..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 17, 2008, 01:25:56 PM
well only Hammer and Bluestars yet to post, Steve has said Bluestars is busy for a couple of days, anyone know if Hammer is laying low or preoccupied elsewhere ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 17, 2008, 02:01:34 PM
i notice on Wes's list, he has failed to give himself a positive smilie... could this be a trip up with his subconsience at work?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 17, 2008, 02:56:00 PM
VOTE Sir Hammer

Get in here hammer, soon as you start taking part in the game I will remove the vote..

I'm usually the first to say that the voting off non-posters is a bad idea, but after the last game, when all the posters got lynched and the game died a death quickly... I see it as a near necessity to make the game better for all..  consider me for sainthoood.  :)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 17, 2008, 03:16:40 PM
I am completely out of it this week....my son is having school issues....my company is trying to kill me with work loads....I somehow splashed a HUGE piece of soap in my eye this morning....then when taking mophead to school got in a wreck! I hit someone that figured stopping in the middle of the road in morning traffic would be fun!

Let's just say....I'm not having a good day....three pages....Good GOD...not again! I've not even had a chance to read the game...lol...sorry folks...I promise to get with the program...I do like when we all participate makes it more fun that is for sure.

I'll attempt to get on here today to check everything out, if not first thing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 17, 2008, 03:29:02 PM
TP has a role of some sort this time i'm positive. If it was a good role i would assume you would not try and draw too much attention to the mafia on day one so they might kill you right away before you get a chance to use it. Inferring that maisg and i are mafia seems foolish, if he was correct he would be a prime target to be killed at night. Though if evil then it's purely deflection in trying to make others to look evil and who better to choose that the usual in miasg and myself.

Okay, this paragraph bothers me. If you break it down a bit, the sentences and what they're saying read like this:

- TP has a power role
- If it was a townie power role, it wouldn't be a good idea to accuse the mafia as you'd become a target.
- Accusing MIASG and TCH seems "foolish".
- Then the usual thing about "deflection" and added emphasis of the "Trick Pony always accuses me" thing.

It just doesn't sit right. Those first three points look dodgy. Why is it foolish? Unless you're actually telling us that you are mafia and Trick Pony has become a prime target, as you imply.

In LoTR mafia all TP wanted to do as a Nazgul was get to day 4 and kill miasg, killing maisg and myself is more important than winning the game. So beware if he's on your side as he's not a team player. Last game as miasg and i were killed in night one it got boring and he modkilled himself.

And this one bothers me too. It just doesn't make sense. It starts with yet more emphasis about why we shouldn't take anything Trick Pony says seriously. And then warns people that if he's on "your" side, that he's not a team player. Now, if by "your", he means the mafia.. why the hell is he caring whether the mafia are working well as a team or not? And if he means the town, why has he said "your" and not "our", as he surely would if he was a townie himself?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 17, 2008, 03:33:47 PM
good pickup, the first rather than the latter.

That first paragraph to me reads:  TP's stupid for pressuring mafia on the first day... 

but he's only pressured TCH & MIASG.... ???

bannana skin maybe?

the second paragraph was more of the same from TCH, as you've pointed out..  I'm not sure what to think, but math says that at least one of the 3 are evil..  but which one, maybe two??
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 17, 2008, 06:20:39 PM
I dunno what to make of it cause I do understand where THC (sorry TCH) is coming from

..... I think last game he was town & comited suicide so that didn't help his team.

the game before he was mafia with me & yorks, we where the only 3 left & he dobbed us in cause we didn,t stick up for him when the town where on to him... making sure his team didn't win.

no matter whether he is on the same team as miasg & now tommy he always goes for them cause he likes winding up his workmates.

I am also a bit worried about how steve is cosying up to you?



I am not saying that neither of them will turn out to be evil but I don't think you can read to much in to this at the mo.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 17, 2008, 06:37:22 PM
I am also a bit worried about how steve is cosying up to you?

who are you talking about?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 17, 2008, 07:18:01 PM
who are you talking about?


I got the order of my post mixed up a bit...I was referring to hippos post about TCH, miasg & TP.... i was meant to add the bit about you cosying up to hippo at the end ... like this




I dunno what to make of it cause I do understand where THC (sorry TCH) is coming from

..... I think last game he was town & comited suicide so that didn't help his team.

the game before he was mafia with me & yorks, we where the only 3 left & he dobbed us in cause we didn,t stick up for him when the town where on to him... making sure his team didn't win.

no matter whether he is on the same team as miasg & now tommy he always goes for them cause he likes winding up his workmates.


I am not saying that neither of them will turn out to be evil but I don't think you can read to much in to this at the mo.



I am also a bit worried about how steve is cosying up to you?
I was just fishing with that last bit.. noticed you had agreed with hippo a couple of times recently thats all?  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 17, 2008, 07:29:47 PM
I've just read it again & maybe it's still not clear who exactly I am talking about in the main body of the post

I am talking about TP

what I am saying is from previous games tp does not seem to play a team game he has his own agenda ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 17, 2008, 07:50:29 PM
Hey laser.... 

(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2880144/2/istockphoto_2880144_joint.jpg)


I understood who you are talking about in the first one..  you've got that paranoid thing going on right now don't you  ;)

As far as me agreeing with hippo, he's right.  why not agree.  No telling what he is, he wont make a mistake until day 3 or so..  he's the kind that reads their post 4 times before clicking 'post'.. especially when he's mafia.. so hard to tell with him no matter his role
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 17, 2008, 08:07:59 PM
Hey laser.... 

(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2880144/2/istockphoto_2880144_joint.jpg)


I understood who you are talking about in the first one..  you've got that paranoid thing going on right now don't you  ;)

As far as me agreeing with hippo, he's right.  why not agree.  No telling what he is, he wont make a mistake until day 3 or so..  he's the kind that reads their post 4 times before clicking 'post'.. especially when he's mafia.. so hard to tell with him no matter his role


 :laugh: :2funny: :lol:    :larrythepothead:

yes I made a bit of a mess of that one :doh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 17, 2008, 08:58:07 PM

 :laugh: :2funny: :lol:    :larrythepothead:

yes I made a bit of a mess of that one :doh:

FoS Laser you are hovering to close to peoples backside!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 17, 2008, 09:02:35 PM
FoS Laser you are hovering to close to peoples backside!


what?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 17, 2008, 09:04:02 PM
Miasg and TCH are sticking tight... Too tight if you ask me,

Also TCH is throwing himself round a bit more than usual which is sus and like in past games miasg likes to try and change style to throw people off, I believe he has done that this time as well.

these are the only two that stand out so far for me and I think one must be evil, maybe even both.

Yorkshire looks suspicious, but the thing is he always does to me so I'm not going to jump on him quick.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 17, 2008, 09:07:24 PM
FoS Laser you are hovering to close to peoples backside!

I don't know what you are on about ... so perhaps you'd like to rephrase that one ... cause i don't hoover around anybody's backside mate :moon2:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 17, 2008, 09:47:43 PM
Afro, certainly they're not both mafia, they're hanging to close, the ones to look for are the ones who aren't even making contact with each other yet...  the only exception to this rule would be Trick Pony, who's pushing at MIASG & TCH, if 2 of the 3 are evil, it will be TP & one of the other two as it's a decent tactic to go after your mafia mates early on so you can point back and say "look how i attacked hom early" .... 

of the 3, if it's a pair I say MIASG & TP, as MIASG has defended TCH's reactions far too much. 
TCH is deflecting back to TP, where MIASG is retaliating with more than just deflection.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 17, 2008, 10:24:25 PM
No when i said they could both be mafia i actually meant evil e.g one serial killer one mafia but i know thats a very small possibility. But i still think one is mafia.

Just from having a quick look back i am suspicious of hammerbro and masterzulus early appearance then not coming back on and also i noticed axeman is taking every oppurtunity to distance himself from everyone yet no one really in particular

can't tell with steve and hippo as yet but hippo completely fooled me in the game before so i'm going to be more aware of him this time.

Steves style is already making me slightly suspicious but not enough yet, but he is like yorkshire blue with me lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 17, 2008, 10:28:34 PM
Steves style is already making me slightly suspicious but not enough yet, but he is like yorkshire blue with me lol.

dont worry afro, I never make it past the 2nd night anyway..


there's not really much going on right now, we still have a few players who are convienently busy or not available.. but starting to move along.. 

the only thing of note is the TCH/MIASG/TP thing going on, and everyone else is simply commenting on it..


Laser's tripple post was sus to me as well...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 18, 2008, 12:47:25 AM
wow you think I'm teaming up with TP  :o what so I vote for him to make me look like I'm really having a go at him for posting shit about me early on where it has been argued that he just has an agenda at going for me .. as for TCH his actions appear to be backing me up more than mine for him .. why I don't know.  As I said before he's sick of the shit that TP slings our way.  My votes still on him because he doesn't care about if he's good or bad he's just after the Aussies - so it doesn't help anyone really .. after all he did modkill himself becuase we were out and he was "bored" and because I still think he slipped up early on and is for me the leading non-townie.  He hasn't really done anything else since to what I think convinces me or anyone of his "innocence".

TCH why are you so sure TP has a "power role" ?

Hippo I'm not too sure about .. he makes a good point but after knowing he was bad last game and how he convinced everyone of certain "facts" it just scares me slighly that he could be mafia again.  but it does makes sense FOS TCH

Afro seems to be agreeing with things too easily - makes me think your not thinking for yourself or following team members ..

Bluestars - sorry to hear about the crash and the sympathy should see you get through a day or 2 .. hopefully though you can put something in every now and then ..

Laser - funny stuff  :laugh:

Everyone else is neither here nor there still .. but it is early days.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 18, 2008, 01:02:57 AM
VOTE TCH
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 18, 2008, 01:45:21 AM
also i noticed axeman is taking every oppurtunity to distance himself from everyone yet no one really in particular
maybe because i dont trust anyone? but erm, who have i distanced my self from exactly? Ive not really said much to be honest. I have formed no proper opinion or gut feeling on anyone so far. ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 18, 2008, 01:56:37 AM
thanks Wes  :)


I find it funny people (afro for example) are trying to draw analogies about my style of play as this i only my second game playing since mafia returned and last game i was killed by Hippo in night one.

I believe that TP does have a power role, though i feel my hands are tied slightly by his smirk and a comment he made when i asked him if he had received his role before the game started and therefore outside the thread.

I know Steve has mentioned things about Mophead and his behaviour at home during past games maybe giving an insight to his role so maybe it's no big deal.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 18, 2008, 04:33:40 AM
I believe that TP does have a power role, though i feel my hands are tied slightly by his smirk and a comment he made when i asked him if he had received his role before the game started and therefore outside the thread.
well that only confirms to me he's not a normal townie - he's probably a mafia terrorist bomber again  ;)  if he could go off at anytime he would have went off on his first post .. and he knows it as he tells me before every game that's what he'll do. 

He's ie :clown:  is off sick today so he might still remain silent for a while. 

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 18, 2008, 10:38:20 AM
dont worry afro, I never make it past the 2nd night anyway..


there's not really much going on right now, we still have a few players who are convienently busy or not available.. but starting to move along.. 

the only thing of note is the TCH/MIASG/TP thing going on, and everyone else is simply commenting on it..


Laser's tripple post was sus to me as well...

Don't you usually try and make things happen when nothing is?

As for TCH's response. I saw him react dodgily to the first hint of accusation from Trick Pony, so wanted to see if he'd react like that again if i did so. Didn't happen. So i guess, he's either genuinely annoyed by Trick Pony and suspicious of him, or he's consciously decided to calm himself down a bit so as not to attract suspicion. From the way MIASG reacts every game, i'm leaning towards the first.

vote Sir Hammer anyway. Only one not to post and has only been mentioned once i think. Steven's vote probably wasn't enough to drag him out of lurking, maybe a second will.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 18, 2008, 10:47:53 AM
Okay, this paragraph bothers me. If you break it down a bit, the sentences and what they're saying read like this:

- TP has a power role
- If it was a townie power role, it wouldn't be a good idea to accuse the mafia as you'd become a target.
- Accusing MIASG and TCH seems "foolish".
- Then the usual thing about "deflection" and added emphasis of the "Trick Pony always accuses me" thing.

It just doesn't sit right. Those first three points look dodgy. Why is it foolish? Unless you're actually telling us that you are mafia and Trick Pony has become a prime target, as you imply.

And this one bothers me too. It just doesn't make sense. It starts with yet more emphasis about why we shouldn't take anything Trick Pony says seriously. And then warns people that if he's on "your" side, that he's not a team player. Now, if by "your", he means the mafia.. why the hell is he caring whether the mafia are working well as a team or not? And if he means the town, why has he said "your" and not "our", as he surely would if he was a townie himself?

Love the pickup here hippo, TCH it look like you have "foolishly" given yourself away ... along with MIASG if you are proven mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 18, 2008, 10:50:02 AM
I dunno what to make of it cause I do understand where THC (sorry TCH) is coming from

..... I think last game he was town & comited suicide so that didn't help his team.

the game before he was mafia with me & yorks, we where the only 3 left & he dobbed us in cause we didn,t stick up for him when the town where on to him... making sure his team didn't win.

no matter whether he is on the same team as miasg & now tommy he always goes for them cause he likes winding up his workmates.

I am also a bit worried about how steve is cosying up to you?



I am not saying that neither of them will turn out to be evil but I don't think you can read to much in to this at the mo.


Defending possible mafia team mates here laserblue ?

FOS TCH, MIASG, Laserblue  >:D
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 18, 2008, 11:02:59 AM
well that only confirms to me he's not a normal townie - he's probably a mafia terrorist bomber again  ;)  if he could go off at anytime he would have went off on his first post .. and he knows it as he tells me before every game that's what he'll do. 

He's ie :clown:  is off sick today so he might still remain silent for a while. 



sorry to disapoint you MIASG  :cowboy:  what does any of that have to do with this game ? TCH has no idea what my role is and your a sheep for following him, play your own game, iv already said the last game was crap because of the lack of modding and that it, just because you died doesnt mean i got bored from that, i got bored because the last game went around in circles for 3 months. That issue is over so get over it... Stop trying to focus my new role on the last game etc because you have nothing to pin on me, I put a bit of presure on you and TCH and then you both form a group and target me, which looks to have back fired on at least one or both of you.... I love getting this game moving as everyone like to sit back, i dont care if I get killed early i will take a hit for the team to get a town win  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 18, 2008, 11:04:21 AM
Forgot to mention VOTE : TCH  O0
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 18, 2008, 12:03:27 PM
wow you think I'm teaming up with TP  :o what so I vote for him to make me look like I'm really having a go at him for posting shit about me early on where it has been argued that he just has an agenda at going for me .. as for TCH his actions appear to be backing me up more than mine for him .. why I don't know.  As I said before he's sick of the shit that TP slings our way.  My votes still on him because he doesn't care about if he's good or bad he's just after the Aussies - so it doesn't help anyone really .. after all he did modkill himself becuase we were out and he was "bored" and because I still think he slipped up early on and is for me the leading non-townie.  He hasn't really done anything else since to what I think convinces me or anyone of his "innocence".

TCH why are you so sure TP has a "power role" ?

Hippo I'm not too sure about .. he makes a good point but after knowing he was bad last game and how he convinced everyone of certain "facts" it just scares me slighly that he could be mafia again.  but it does makes sense FOS TCH

Afro seems to be agreeing with things too easily - makes me think your not thinking for yourself or following team members ..

Bluestars - sorry to hear about the crash and the sympathy should see you get through a day or 2 .. hopefully though you can put something in every now and then ..

Laser - funny stuff  :laugh:

Everyone else is neither here nor there still .. but it is early days.
i like the way you put a line between every sentence to make it look like youve posted alot. in the post above you go after one person again and who is it your workmate tch then to make your own post look big you throw in some crap at the bottom of it which does not help at all. there is also laserblue in that list what do u think of him apart from funny stuff.
vote miasg
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Quig on September 18, 2008, 12:07:36 PM
Well, the usual first day shenanigans. No real solid arguments or anything. Most people blabberin and voting for personal reasons that come from outside the game. I'll poke my brother to come post but until then, Vote: Sir Hammer for not posting.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 18, 2008, 12:08:07 PM
i like the way you put a line between every sentence to make it look like youve posted alot. in the post above you go after one person again and who is it your workmate tch then to make your own post look big you throw in some crap at the bottom of it which does not help at all. there is also laserblue in that list what do u think of him apart from funny stuff.
vote miasg

 :laugh: read like a book MIASG
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 18, 2008, 12:31:56 PM

Defending possible mafia team mates here laserblue ?

FOS TCH, MIASG, Laserblue  >:D

no...... if you'd read it properly .... instead of just skimming......you would know that nowhere in my posts have I defended TCH & Miasg

.... SO Don't make things up & attribute them to me cause your to lazy to read my posts.. so heres what I said  you play your own game & are not a team player :bleh:

I am a bit suspicious of yorkshire & mike though...... Mike has usually got more involved by now & york always manages to make himself look bad which I think he is doing again.

Not much of an imput from masterzulu & bluestars although bluestars has given an excuse oh & hamer needs to get involved
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 18, 2008, 12:40:08 PM
sorry to disapoint you MIASG  :cowboy:  what does any of that have to do with this game ? TCH has no idea what my role is and your a sheep for following him, play your own game, iv already said the last game was crap because of the lack of modding and that it, just because you died doesnt mean i got bored from that, i got bored because the last game went around in circles for 3 months. That issue is over so get over it... Stop trying to focus my new role on the last game etc because you have nothing to pin on me, I put a bit of presure on you and TCH and then you both form a group and target me, which looks to have back fired on at least one or both of you.... I love getting this game moving as everyone like to sit back, i dont care if I get killed early i will take a hit for the team to get a town win  :bleh:

your right i have no idea what your role is but i'm convinced it's a role other than a normal townie by your reaction when i asked you i've you'd received it. Do you want to deny it ? Your lucky i haven't posted your comment as i don't think it would help you.

that combined with your outright lie in your first post is enough to get my vote, your continued attacks and trying to link miasg and myself together strikes me now as desperation to deflect from your glaring mistake.

I notice also that you quoted Hippo's post trying to incriminate me but neglected to mention the post before yours from hippo where he says

Quote
So i guess, he's either genuinely annoyed by Trick Pony and suspicious of him, or he's consciously decided to calm himself down a bit so as not to attract suspicion. From the way MIASG reacts every game, i'm leaning towards the first.

so yes Hippo you are correct on the first assumption
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 18, 2008, 01:35:30 PM
no...... if you'd read it properly .... instead of just skimming......you would know that nowhere in my posts have I defended TCH & Miasg

.... SO Don't make things up & attribute them to me cause your to lazy to read my posts.. so heres what I said  you play your own game & are not a team player :bleh:

I am a bit suspicious of yorkshire & mike though...... Mike has usually got more involved by now & york always manages to make himself look bad which I think he is doing again.

Not much of an imput from masterzulu & bluestars although bluestars has given an excuse oh & hamer needs to get involved


 :laugh: skimming !!! if I skimmed I wouldnt have picked this up ...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 18, 2008, 01:58:40 PM
when hammer modded the last game he got really pissed of with peeps who did not post & now he is doing the same thing ....  >:(
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 18, 2008, 02:17:48 PM
i like the way you put a line between every sentence to make it look like youve posted alot. in the post above you go after one person again and who is it your workmate tch then to make your own post look big you throw in some crap at the bottom of it which does not help at all. there is also laserblue in that list what do u think of him apart from funny stuff.vote miasg
I put spaces to make it easier for you to read - which I didn't do this time .. I didn't mention alot of other people as well - his posts made me laugh because he seemed so meddled .. I've no read on him as yet.  or on you if it interests you - which you didn't seem to care about.  Which workmate (and post) are you alluding that I went after?  TCH or TP ? I'd rather not get involved in the sematics with him anymore but my vote stands because I still think he fucked up early on and has done nothing to change my mind.  And no one else has presented themselves to me as more deserving of my vote.  In saying that I agree with Hippo and Steve (and I did state this in previous games) that I'd rather vote for a non posting player in the hopes of getting them in otherwise the game dies when all your left with is 1 post per player once a week ..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 18, 2008, 02:34:34 PM
TrickPony, he's playing erratically, pressuring on the smallest of points, and sometimes no point at all..  If he was mafia I dont think he'd be doing this.  He's now gone after his aussies & added laserblue to the list... although misguided, and sometimes a bit silly, he is making somethings happen which will help in day 2,3,4 etc... He's too far out there to be anything of worth for either side I believe..  I think he's a normal townie trying to make the most of his role..

Yorkshireblue however, has come on, posted a quick blurb and voted for MIASG which may not be a bad vote.. but his reasons are silly..  "you put spaces between your lines??"????  what the F(@*#*?? I dont see what's

wrong with that?

Why cant there be extra lines?  Makes

it easier to read..  :)


TCH, you are using his reaction like I did with mophead..  the big difference is , TP is a grown man, an adult who can control his reactions (at least I think so...),... mophead is a child who is very easy to read...  it could be something, but he could just be winding you up, which seems to be what he enjoys most...

Mike has been more active on day 1 previously, but I believe that he's adapted his game accordingly. If I remember correctly, he's been under major pressure for slipups the first day every game he's played, good, evil... no matter, he always gets caught out on something.. so seems his new plan is to sit back and wait for the night phase to pass and then pick up his play..  FOS Mikeblue   This could be a sign of a role that has forced this change.  keep an eye on mikeblue.

Masterzulu is wasting....

Hammerbro has voted his brother, told him to get on and post, and der hammer hasn't showed up..  either hammer couldnt be arsed to play at this point, or hammerbro is setting him up for a lynch..  keep that in mind if der hammer doesnt show up, and turns out to be town..  I would put full blame on hammerbro..

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 18, 2008, 03:48:29 PM
Don't know how I have curved my game to be honest?

I have posted at least once every day? The only difference this time is I haven't been pounced on from all corners as in past games. Therefore I have not had to spend all of day one defending myself for a change.

As I have said in previous posts there is not much to go on in day 1 and it is prodominatly a pot luck guess. Not many people have actually placed a vote as of yet, so we seem to be a long way from a lynch yet. Am I correct in thinking that there is no deadline and it is the same as the last game and only a majority vote will cause the day to end???

The first day is stacked in the Mafia's favour as they can try and pick up on anything anyone says and it will be considered as there is nothing else to go on. I am not looking into people deflecting and taking sides as such at the moment as if anyone agrees with something someone says, people turn it into them taking sides which just is not the case if you agree with one thing someone says. Anything said in day one is met with a comment of so and so is deflecting and so and so seem to making an allegence.

The down under tit for tat thing that goes on most games....... for me this is best left alone for now until there is some more convincing evidence found to support a theory as its 50 50 whether there is anything behind it all as far as I'm concerned.

The only person that has stood out to me for anything so far is Yorkshireblue for this post ...

i like the way you put a line between every sentence to make it look like youve posted alot. in the post above you go after one person again and who is it your workmate tch then to make your own post look big you throw in some crap at the bottom of it which does not help at all. there is also laserblue in that list what do u think of him apart from funny stuff.
vote miasg


.....I mean what the fuck is that??? Last game he was town though, when I was convinced he was evil after going after me so bad, so maybe he is just doing the same again but for now I am going to vote Yorkshireblue as he is the one that strikes me the most at this moment in time.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 18, 2008, 04:07:59 PM
* I am posting my thoughts which were based off of all that I read on the beginning of page 5...however there seems to be a full page of 5 now and I've not had a chance to look at them...I will post my thoughts at this point*

Good Lord...taken me almost an hour and half to read all the posts in the game so far. I must agree it is a typical day one with lots of dribble back and forth...but hey at least most of the folks are posting and active in the game. I do apologize for my absence yesterday....it was a complete shat day all together!
(notice no spacing as not to appear evil for you, yorkshire... :laugh:) I have read through the game and I do think that a few things are noticeable but it's hard because after a few games some folks just automatically in my mind appear either mafia or completely insane! But I'll offer my opinions so far...

Mikeblue-I think he's here and posting offering up his opinions, I agree with him that day one is almost always a guess with little evidence really and we do somehow almost always kill our own townie on day one. His game style has changed because I think he actually likes to play the game and he and steven were getting killed off day one for being so active....easy mafia targets...lol...so he's posting and involved I so no point in voting for someone for that at this point.
TCH-he did get aggressive with TP but I think he's another player that wants to play the game and gets killed off early and is probably annoyed at TP for going after him right away. I don't think at this point on day one someone getting defensive is a true indication of evil...but might rather be an desire to stay in the game...could be wrong....moderators sometimes make the best mafia because they understand the game so well and have been able to see behind the scene how everyone plays in all roles...but at this point it is day one and I think he was truly just pissed off at TP for going at him so early for what he felt was weak accusations.
Sir Hammer-I think at this point my FOS would have to be on Hammer...he's a great smart player and really got annoyed with us last game that it went on too long...can't blame that on me as I was killed off so early...lol...eithe r way though...I'm inclined to suspect him for not posting because that is always his biggest gripe...however to not be on at all makes me inclined to think he has internet problems again. So I'll not vote for him until we figure something out solid first.
MiasG-I think in real life he's ready to rip TP's head off...lol! Miasg is one that I am really horrible at determining..he's a good player and is very consistent in his play one game to the next...and he's always annoyed by TP...it's like his little annoying brother...but at this point...what TP has posted on him doesn't really make any sense to me. He's active and playing the game...he's annoyed that TP is going so hard at him..but at this point..it's typical TP/Miasg battle and I can't make out much of him at this point.
StevenRyals-I am always inclined to not say much about steven as we live together...lol...th at being said...I think he's involved in the game...but trying to not stick out as he loves playing this game and he gets really annoyed getting killed off so early....evil or townie he plays an active game...so at this point...I don't think I notice anything particularly either way at this point in the game
Hammerbro-not got much to say and comes on to say as much...but it is day one...and there were lots of pages of TP/TCH/Miasg and his vote to bring Hammer out seems to at least appear to me he wants the game to progress....and also tells me that it is possible hammer is avoiding posting...as if his internet or something was out....he might have offered that information to us in the game...so in not offering anything...it does make me a little more suspect of Sir Hammer's absence thus far in the game.
Happy Axeman-usual posting and not much to it...but like other players lays fairly low at first in the game...another player I am always complete crap at attempting to figure out....he is posting and offering opinions at this point and does not stick out in my mind as either way at this point....so..for now i don't know.
Hippo-probably the hardest player to figure out in all games...lol...and always attacks me...so I always assume he's evil...but what he does offer is winding people up and analysing every word they say...so at this point I have no clue on him..but do take time to read what he has to say because he is good at if nothing else..participating in the game and trying to get information for the game so that we don't just vote randomly...so I have no clue either way on him at this point in the game.
Trick Pony-of all the players I do agree with someone else that even if you were evil or townie I'm not sure I could make you out as you appear to always have another agenda...which makes me most times assume you are serial killer and on your own...but I think you have been going at Miasg and TCH because you can...and gets the game going....I don't buy your tactics and think you might very well be evil this time...but as for voting at this point for you...I don't see anything clearly postive in my mind...I just think by nature you are nuts...lol!!! But you are susing folks out in your typical way...so for that I am willing to let the day progress and see how I feel when more of the others post as I feel it has really been pages 1-5 if TP/TCH sissy fighting!
Laserblue-hahaha at steve's post to you...I was totally sober and got what you were on about...what does that say about my mental state..lol! Another good player that does a good job to get the game started but tries to not stick out in any real obvious way on day one....active in the game...attempting to offer what I feel is some good points...so for now...no clue and no reason to suspect of being particiularly evil or townie at this point.
Afroboy-you are a kid so your interest in the game fluctuates...and the fact I know your age and stage of life I give you a pass most times...lol! that being said...so far not posting much content...but you are posting and giving opinions even if I can't per say follow the thinking....but for now...I don't see anything too much as not enough posting to determine anything.
Wesmancity-hmmm...another one I for some reason have to say I kind of always feel is mafia...lol..but that is because of your posting style...so I would not vote for you as that would be unfair at this point...but a few of your oneliners seem very suspect...so my only thinking is to see how much more active you become in the game and judge by this game only. for now I don't know...for certain.
Yorkshire Blue-another oneliner poster and giving someone crap for not spacing...well this post all crammed together should give you a hint that is a bad excuse to suspect someone...lol! However...you are posting and for you even more than one sentence in some cases so honestly at this point...I ain't got a clue!
Masterzulu-unless I totally missed it...did he even post yet?? I might have but give me a break 5 pages to read...I just can't remember him saying anything...if he did...what page is it on...I posted all this big post and I don't see where he posted...I'll go back and look...but it obviously couldn't be much if I don't remember it...so at this point I fos any player not active or barely active with no reason at this point in the game.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 18, 2008, 04:16:03 PM
Just got back from a 2 day conference at the city of Manchester stadium, so I have been Reading when I can but not had time to post yet.

Not to familar with 24 but I'll try to catch up.

I see the fighting has started already, so let's get it on.

This is the only post I see from Masterzulu....he's said he'd post and yet never offered anything at this point...seems the post suspect thing I've seen thus far...FOS MASTERZULU
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 18, 2008, 04:27:29 PM
FYI...spacing on people that post alot like me...probably necessary...I can't even read the book I just posted..lol!

Sorry about that folks... :laugh:...been delayed in participating...sor ry maybe I added too many thoughts.

I think on Day one there was some good discussions going on about the game itself and then it progressed into a sissy fight. Understanding the game in the past has helped townie to sus out evil...using what we know of the series to gather information. I thought that was a good way to start.

Miasg posted an idea about there possibly being two mafias....that idea didn't cross my mind until he said it...although could be possible I assume...but in 24 that season I don't recall there being two terrorist groups...so if we follow the series exactly I don't see that being a possiblity...but I feel that was something to notice..and worth mentioning...a good pick up if you ask me. I would be sort of inclined to think if there were two groups as suggested that they wouldn't both be mafia...but rather...one mafia and one cult. But I've not played enough games with a cult to really know if that idea is viable.

I have to think with the way 24 is so unexpected...I would think that a serial killer is really probably in this game...not sure who I think that character would be at the moment...but this series is so action packed...I'm inclined to think that we have alot of characters with powers in this game....just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 18, 2008, 04:44:45 PM
bluestars, if you read the opening sequence from Currieman, you'll notice there were two attacks back to back in different parts of the USA, so that leads me to believe that there will be two groups who are evil in this game.  If there's a cult, it will be in addition to the two groups who are responsible for these aforementioned attacks.  lets say, 2 groups of 2 = 4, cult starts with 1, add a serial killer and a mafia leader that's 7 mafia..  which would make it completely unfair (i think anyway)...  so I think we're talking about 2 groups of 2 with a boss... that may be it... between sk & cult, i think only one would exist in this game to keep the numbers even.. 

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 18, 2008, 05:19:31 PM
bluestars, if you read the opening sequence from Currieman, you'll notice there were two attacks back to back in different parts of the USA, so that leads me to believe that there will be two groups who are evil in this game.  If there's a cult, it will be in addition to the two groups who are responsible for these aforementioned attacks.  lets say, 2 groups of 2 = 4, cult starts with 1, add a serial killer and a mafia leader that's 7 mafia..  which would make it completely unfair (i think anyway)...  so I think we're talking about 2 groups of 2 with a boss... that may be it... between sk & cult, i think only one would exist in this game to keep the numbers even.. 



I am not sure what I think it could go either way....two separate groups...one assuming to be mafia...the other I still think it is possible to be a serial killer...the plane attack could simply be one person to do that type of attack...it didn't mention many details...but I'm just thinking based off of real attacks in the real world...one person could inflict a great deal of damage. That's why I thought it was possible to not assume two mafias...which seems sort of unlikely to me as I've not been in a game with it that way..but then again...keep us guessing no idea. If you keep it to one mafia, with what you said two members...and one serial killer...and then one cult leader to start...then that would be about typical numbers for mafia based on past games.
Then again the mafia could simply be four members and no cult and one serial killer (because somehow I think we have to have one....I've not played in a game I remember without one...I don't know that to be the case...but seems likely)...either way...one mafia group with four members could easily attack two targets...in the show the mafia was one group wasn't it...that did both attacks? It's been ages in the US since this season was on..so I can't really remember...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on September 18, 2008, 07:18:35 PM
Righto, First of all sorry for being a little late to the party, been a busy week, only just had time to sit and have a proper read through all the posts, so thanks for not running me out of town staright away lol.

I've had a detailed read through everything so far and made some notes, nothing jumps out at me as of yet but i'm going to attempt to digest over tea what I've noted.

Will post back later this evening.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on September 18, 2008, 08:44:11 PM
Vote count
3 – Sir Hammer (StevenRyals, Hippo, Hammerbro)
2 – Trick Pony (TCH, MiasG)
1 – TCH (Trick Pony)
1 – MiasG (YorkshireBlue)
1 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 18, 2008, 10:47:11 PM
Vote count
3 – Sir Hammer (StevenRyals, Hippo, Hammerbro)
2 – Trick Pony (TCH, MiasG)
1 – TCH (Trick Pony)
1 – MiasG (YorkshireBlue)
1 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch


Erm Currieman where has my vote gone?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 18, 2008, 11:37:51 PM
well it was a oneliner Wes so easy to miss  ;) and obviously of no value so not counted !!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 18, 2008, 11:59:00 PM

Wesmancity-hmmm...another one I for some reason have to say I kind of always feel is mafia...lol..but that is because of your posting style...so I would not vote for you as that would be unfair at this point...but a few of your oneliners seem very suspect...so my only thinking is to see how much more active you become in the game and judge by this game only. for now I don't know...for certain.



Deff FOS BLUESTARS,,,  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 19, 2008, 12:21:49 AM
Miasg posted an idea about there possibly being two mafias....that idea didn't cross my mind until he said it...although could be possible I assume...but in 24 that season I don't recall there being two terrorist groups...so if we follow the series exactly I don't see that being a possiblity...but I feel that was something to notice..and worth mentioning...a good pick up if you ask me. I would be sort of inclined to think if there were two groups as suggested that they wouldn't both be mafia...but rather...one mafia and one cult. But I've not played enough games with a cult to really know if that idea is viable.

Actually my thoughts are that there is 1 mafi/terrorist leader and possibly 2 cells of mafia and they don't know each other exist .. but it's just a theory .. I've watched some but not all series of 24 and there are usually multiple cells .. you know the ones they catch in eps 1-3 and the ones they chase in the rest ..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 19, 2008, 03:51:45 AM
Deff FOS BLUESTARS,,,  :bleh:

Deff another one liner
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 19, 2008, 03:56:54 AM
Actually my thoughts are that there is 1 mafi/terrorist leader and possibly 2 cells of mafia and they don't know each other exist .. but it's just a theory .. I've watched some but not all series of 24 and there are usually multiple cells .. you know the ones they catch in eps 1-3 and the ones they chase in the rest ..

Unvote Sir Hammer

Vote MIASG


You didnt say that, I said that..  you in yoru first post on a one-liner, "could mean two cells"... however ,.. that was the end of your post.. then 3 or 4 posts later was mine..  in which I presented the ideas you are now claiming as your own..  you've forgotten what you said and what you didnt say..  you're not paying attention.. and you're evil.. biznitch!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 19, 2008, 05:01:20 AM
and that's enough to vote for me ?  fair enough - better reasoning than line spacing .. what I left out in that thread was "my thoughts are now", that which as you say you came up with .. so really I agree with you .. I was just clarifing for Bluestars and everyone where my thoughts are now not trying to take credit away from you or anything .. really there isn't much difference between my original thought and your extrapaltion.  It's all theory anyway.

Masterzulu you said you'd be back on later after diner and that was like 10 hours ago .. surely you have had enough time to digest what you've noted.  Can't keep hiding in the background. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 19, 2008, 05:02:36 AM
OH shit I had a space between paragraphs  :-\ I guess yorkshireblue can't vote for me twice on that issue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 19, 2008, 08:41:52 AM
Don't think there is any point really speculating at this point about potential mafias groups. All we should know is that probably roughly a quarter of us playing are some sort of baddies, and that could even be well off. Shouldn't rule out a cult, as fundamentalist muslim terrorists seem to recruit people so thats a possibility.

(Sorry for early inactiveness. Back and kicking now)

Also I love how people always say I'm a good player at this, when to my memory i've never done anything decent in the whole history of Axeman mafia aside from my valiant attempts to set up some rules in the kingmaker game, and my ultimately wrong idea that Bluestars had made some freudian slip in a game.


I am waiting for more people to post so I can make some kind of educated guess. As always on day 1 it is pretty much pot luck. How many games is someone evil lynched in the first day??? Not many because there is nothing to go on and a townie always manages to get lynched. When I posted more than 50% had not posted yet so what am I going to do? Vote for someone?

From the games I have played the mafia tend to lie low the first few days and let town accuse town as they are the ones posting more in my opinion trying to find the mafia. It is easy for mafia to do the usual show up and post once in a while to not draw attention but still be seen to be playing so I am going to keep an eye out for this trend as to me this is a better tell than going after an eager poster on day 1. It is majoritly a guess on the first day as every other time we have got it wrong as far as I can remeber. Off the top of my head in all the games I have played I don't think we have ever lynched a mafia member first day bar the last one when Bluestars played and it like an absolute mere!  :laugh:

Still a few people yet to post and still nothing much happening than the usual Ausie stuff. I'm not dismissing it but am not jumping to any conclusions just yet.

This is a decent post and sums up my feelings mainly, however accuseing people is the only way forward. Eventually someone will slip up. Steven or Bluestars tradionally make a list of peoples post countsm so when they do that I think they should also count "worthwhile" posts. That should flush out those who are posting alot, but saying little. It's those we have to look out for.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on September 19, 2008, 09:34:34 AM
Vote count
2 – Sir Hammer (Hippo, Hammerbro)
2 – Trick Pony (TCH, MiasG)
2 – MiasG (YorkshireBlue, StevenRyals)
2 – TCH (Wesmancity, Trick Pony)
1 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 19, 2008, 01:10:37 PM
Shouldn't rule out a cult, as fundamentalist muslim terrorists seem to recruit people so thats a possibility.

Could potentially be a mafia/terrorist group with the ability to recruit, given the theme.

maybe as 24 goes you think you have a good role as town, then currieman will change your role, as that what happens in 24, for eg - As hippo says Nina Myers was a good cop in the first series then turned bad!. Why couldn't this happen with the mafia game?

This is why we need to vote a bit more carefully and not vote someone straight away!

Okay, agreed. Let's definitely do that. We'll be careful and talk everything through thoroughly, explain all our reasoning, and then we'll all be able to make an informed decision and hopefully lynch someone evil.

VOTE TCH

Wait. What happened to carefully thought out and explained voting? If i didn't know better, i'd say you were voting for the first person you saw accused of anything. That's not really in keeping with what you said would be best for the town is it?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 19, 2008, 02:19:25 PM
well apart from TP, my other suspicions would be

Wes - for similar to what hippo said he urges careful consideration and then posts one liners fosing or voting and not explaining any reasoning

Masterzulu - for saying he was going to post later and not reappearing, if he's not back today my suspicions will increase
and

Yorkshire - the doublespace vote has to be the worse reason in mafia history to cast a vote.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 19, 2008, 02:46:46 PM
Yorkshire - the doublespace vote has to be the worse reason in mafia history to cast a vote.

For that I have to agree..

MIASG, you've shrugged off my vote brilliantly, adding a bit of deflection at the end onto yorkshire..  To be honest I had a little buzz last night... but I still think that it was a good pickup as you plainly claim these ideas as your own..  Town almost always remember what they've said opposed to everyone else.. mafia are usually a bit more careless, causing them to forget and make mistakes like that.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on September 19, 2008, 03:09:18 PM
Well, In my opinion not much to go on yet.

The TP, Miasg and TCH thing could just be TP doing a good job winding his work colleagues up, if not he's slipped up by showing his hand too early.

Stevenryals seems to be going after any small discrepancy he can find, either thats his style trying to force people into the open or he's over compensating for being mafia.

I'm going to play the noob card a little as this is only my 2nd game of mafia, not much is jumping out at me at all yet to lead to any possible conclusions, to early for me to be casting any votes yet or pointing the finger as it would be pure guess work with no ammo to back it up.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 19, 2008, 03:32:29 PM
For that I have to agree..

MIASG, you've shrugged off my vote brilliantly, adding a bit of deflection at the end onto yorkshire..  To be honest I had a little buzz last night... but I still think that it was a good pickup as you plainly claim these ideas as your own..  Town almost always remember what they've said opposed to everyone else.. mafia are usually a bit more careless, causing them to forget and make mistakes like that.. 
deflected onto yorkshire  ??? he voted for me for spacing ..and how having I shrugged off your vote?  you haven't changed it.  As I said you basicaly extrapalated on my views .. I didn't say THIS IS MY VIEW AND I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS IT ... there were a few pages from when I wrote my first post to when bluestars wrote hers so i was mearly updating .. still can;t see how you think I'm stealing your thunder .. sorry i guess... also I don't think if I remember, or forget something it means I'm mafia or townie .. it's just me dude  O0.  Sometimes we write when we are buzzed, busy, or tired...

Materzulu I'm disapointed in what you've written since you had all that time to digest your thoughts.  I don't think you've added anything and just agreed with others updates.  I'm assuming then you'd rather not put all your views down now and trying to remain relativley hidden.  I hope we see more of you posting.

Okay, agreed. Let's definitely do that. We'll be careful and talk everything through thoroughly, explain all our reasoning, and then we'll all be able to make an informed decision and hopefully lynch someone evil.
Hippo why wouldn't we do this ? it's an obvious statement and a bit too dramatic for me but the next paragragh really gives it to Wes who is I think is a tit-for-tat voter. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 19, 2008, 03:42:13 PM
I'm here today, but have a very busy weekend ahead I am leaving work in about two hours will be gone probably until Monday US time....if I have a chance to pop on the computer this weekend I will try, but we are booked solid for this weekend and it is really possible I might not be able to get back on until work on Monday...just wanted to let folks know so I'm not leaving anyone looking for me.

Masterzulu....I get it is only your second game, but the problem with not contributing is that it appears you are sliding back behind the scenes and that is typical mafia behavior....which is normally why newer players get lynched so quickly in these games. This is a game...none of us know anything for certain..but the part of the game is trying to take things that you find in people's words to use to make the best possible choice for a town win. Look....you will make some mistakes or get it right...either way...without trying playing the game is useless, makes you look suspicious...and us townies trying to find evil get annoyed without you participating...so my advice...just anything that looks suspicious to you...questions folks and ask them about it....otherwise you are likely to be a good candidate to look evil..you've not posted enough for me to know one way or the other...but saying there isn't anything to offer even in suspicions is well...weak at this point...6 pages of talk...surely something has to look evil to you.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on September 19, 2008, 05:07:24 PM
Stuff 

Didn't get as much time as I'd hoped, something cropped up that needed my attention.

More Stuff

I understand what you are trying to say... I'm trying to contribute but my point is the more experianced players are maybe able to pickup on things that I would just breeze over hence why I haven't posted much, nothing has set the alarm bells ringing that I felt I needed to question it, once I get into my stride I'm sure i'll be able to get more into things.
You say its looks suspicious that I have nothing to offer after 6 pages, I'm sorry but all I see is 6 pages of tit for tat between the same 3 people.

So If it looks like I'm hiding in the back ground thats up to you guys, but I really am trying to get involved and find out who's who.

Anyways a few pages back there were a few comments on what the evil roles might be, any thoughts on what town roles we may have? Is it just gonna be the usual, Cop, Doctor and a bunch of towns folk combo?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 19, 2008, 05:48:02 PM
Hippo why wouldn't we do this ? it's an obvious statement and a bit too dramatic for me but the next paragragh really gives it to Wes who is I think is a tit-for-tat voter. 

Eh?

Obviously we should do the first bit. That wasn't really the point. I was just highlighting the inconsistencies between what Wes said we should do (the first quote), and what he has actually done himself (the second quote).
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 19, 2008, 05:57:12 PM
masterzulu....I know but remember Day one is a guessing game by all anyway...just try to keep involved...at least on a daily basis is what most suggest...although I will admit at times when a day on the calendar leads to 10 pages of dribble...it does get a bit much..that being said.

I was intrigued at someone saying something about a townie role that might change without their knowledge based off of the 24 character....I don't know if we have that role in the game or not, but that would be a real challenge! Even if there was such a character it would be impossible for us to know or that person...so to me to guestimate on that type of character is well...pointless on day one.

For town roles...I'm not sure based off of 24 if there will be as many townies with what I would consider extraordinary powers...I would assume a cop role of some sort....and a doctor as those are character roles that are common in these games and aren't out of the ordinary in a show like 24...that being said...I wouldn't expect a bulletproof townie this time around as that is well...not something in real life and 24 seems real life based(okay maybe a bit hyper action packed terrorist over the top...but real life, no super powers or fantasy like we were dealing with in Lord of the rings and the other animated thing).  I would have to assume the most important character in the series to protect would be Jack....that being said...as townies the best bet on protecting our most valued townie is if you suspect someone of being Jack is to not call attention to it as that will simply alert mafia as we saw in previous games. But that's my two cents for now.

I think Miasg and Hippo just confused each other...lol...focus I think you are confusing one another and basically saying the same thing! This is a long day one so far....maybe as townies we should try to create our own timeline...I would hate to see this game drag on with days lasting three and four weeks...I think it is hard to keep interest. I think day one is always long...but after that I think creating a self imposed attempt at getting a lynch at least once a week is a good thing..I might be wrong...but I think the games drag a bit if we drag out the weeks with pages upon pages and no voting.
That's just my opinion...take it for what you wish....as for now I'm off for the day.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 19, 2008, 06:40:27 PM
Wait. What happened to carefully thought out and explained voting? If i didn't know better, i'd say you were voting for the first person you saw accused of anything. That's not really in keeping with what you said would be best for the town is it?

my reason was this.


FOS TCH, keep reading this and what keeps going threw my head is this:

Why react in that way?
if youre town then you would laugh it off. Only a person with a interesting role would surely react like that.

Im gonna keep a close eye on your post from now on i really dont trust you.

is that ok for you
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 19, 2008, 07:36:47 PM
my reason was this.

is that ok for you

But nothing happened between the time you posted that and the time you voted for TCH..??  what' pushed you from FOS to a Vote?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 19, 2008, 08:04:08 PM
But nothing happened between the time you posted that and the time you voted for TCH..??  what' pushed you from FOS to a Vote?

Nobody else has caught my attention other than him. Why do i need to go over lines and lines of bullshit just to get my point accross?. Hes raised my susspisions for reacting the way he did and if i wait any longer people will start accusing me of not posting. IF and its a big IF anybody else comes under my suspission list I shall unvote him and vote them or if i decide i made an error i shal retract.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 19, 2008, 08:10:34 PM
sorry, but i dont see why he was on your suspicion list with an FOS, then after you point out how we should be careful in voting people.. you then vote for him under the same circumstances..  seems like a contradiction..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 19, 2008, 08:24:23 PM
sorry, but i dont see why he was on your suspicion list with an FOS, then after you point out how we should be careful in voting people.. you then vote for him under the same circumstances..  seems like a contradiction..

Yep to be honest i see what you are saying i did say that.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 20, 2008, 01:31:26 AM
Eh?

Obviously we should do the first bit. That wasn't really the point. I was just highlighting the inconsistencies between what Wes said we should do (the first quote), and what he has actually done himself (the second quote).
  I get it - I just thought it was dramatic .. possibly trying to hard to be town
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 20, 2008, 11:27:47 AM
masterzulu....I know but remember Day one is a guessing game by all anyway...just try to keep involved...at least on a daily basis is what most suggest...although I will admit at times when a day on the calendar leads to 10 pages of dribble...it does get a bit much..that being said.

I was intrigued at someone saying something about a townie role that might change without their knowledge based off of the 24 character....I don't know if we have that role in the game or not, but that would be a real challenge! Even if there was such a character it would be impossible for us to know or that person...so to me to guestimate on that type of character is well...pointless on day one.

For town roles...I'm not sure based off of 24 if there will be as many townies with what I would consider extraordinary powers...I would assume a cop role of some sort....and a doctor as those are character roles that are common in these games and aren't out of the ordinary in a show like 24...that being said...I wouldn't expect a bulletproof townie this time around as that is well...not something in real life and 24 seems real life based(okay maybe a bit hyper action packed terrorist over the top...but real life, no super powers or fantasy like we were dealing with in Lord of the rings and the other animated thing).  I would have to assume the most important character in the series to protect would be Jack....that being said...as townies the best bet on protecting our most valued townie is if you suspect someone of being Jack is to not call attention to it as that will simply alert mafia as we saw in previous games. But that's my two cents for now.

I think Miasg and Hippo just confused each other...lol...focus I think you are confusing one another and basically saying the same thing! This is a long day one so far....maybe as townies we should try to create our own timeline...I would hate to see this game drag on with days lasting three and four weeks...I think it is hard to keep interest. I think day one is always long...but after that I think creating a self imposed attempt at getting a lynch at least once a week is a good thing..I might be wrong...but I think the games drag a bit if we drag out the weeks with pages upon pages and no voting.
That's just my opinion...take it for what you wish....as for now I'm off for the day.

Good post. I'm with you on that.

My vote stands on Yorky.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 20, 2008, 03:15:38 PM
I think bluestars idea of trying to put some kind of deadline on the day is the only way forward .....
There are less people playing this time & no newbs Except zulu who has played one game before , most  people are a bit wiser & have developed a style of playing & are mainly sticking to it, so it's pretty impossible to pick someone out....only mike has really changed his game so far & I can understand that cause he's got hammered at the begining of other games.

so any body any ideas on setting a deadline..?

other than that yorkshire pointing out someone was putting gaps in between

there lines was pretty lame & wes advising us to have caution on voting then

having a spell of suspecting people at the drop of a hat are things that stick

out for me ... but not enough to make me vote for them.

after the last game is bluestars trying desperatley to go back to her previous style of playing... I don't know?

but like i said her idea of having a deadline seems a good one?

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 20, 2008, 03:48:34 PM
FOS laserblue for spacing  >:(

To me wanting a deadline is only helping he mafia get to the night phase .. day one is and should be the longest day .. what's the rush?  alot of people are hiding and we'll be no better off on day 2 and beyond .. question people and get them on is the only way to progress today ..
I think Happy hasn't done much (as usual on day 1) .. afroboy came on and just agreed with others and disapeared again .. zulu is new but not saying much .. TP started alot of shit and then vanished.  Hammerbro also isn't doing enough in my mind .. this is not to say I suspect you of being evil just you need to contribute so the rest of us don't feel like we have to keep this rolling.  Even TCH is now quiet but I suspect that's to get him off the radar as posters seem to be the flavour of the moment. 

Yorkshire apart from the spacing why is your vote still on me?  I'd like to know why  ??? 

On the theory of 2 or more mafia cells we really won't know for a day or 2 if this is the case.  Idle speculation at the moment. 

On the theory that your role will change - I think it's highly unlikely uless your recruited - different mod and all - just a quick question to whoever was gandalf and strider in LOTR (can't be arsed looking it up) - did you know if you died at night your character would change?  and even if they changed they didn't swap sides. 

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 20, 2008, 08:42:19 PM
FOS laserblue for spacing  >:(

To me wanting a deadline is only helping he mafia get to the night phase .. day one is and should be the longest day .. what's the rush?  alot of people are hiding and we'll be no better off on day 2 and beyond .. question people and get them on is the only way to progress today ..
I think Happy hasn't done much (as usual on day 1) .. afroboy came on and just agreed with others and disapeared again .. zulu is new but not saying much .. TP started alot of shit and then vanished.  Hammerbro also isn't doing enough in my mind .. this is not to say I suspect you of being evil just you need to contribute so the rest of us don't feel like we have to keep this rolling.  Even TCH is now quiet but I suspect that's to get him off the radar as posters seem to be the flavour of the moment. 

Yorkshire apart from the spacing why is your vote still on me?  I'd like to know why  ??? 

On the theory of 2 or more mafia cells we really won't know for a day or 2 if this is the case.  Idle speculation at the moment. 

On the theory that your role will change - I think it's highly unlikely uless your recruited - different mod and all - just a quick question to whoever was gandalf and strider in LOTR (can't be arsed looking it up) - did you know if you died at night your character would change?  and even if they changed they didn't swap sides. 



I was waiting for that ...as soon as I said a deadline would be a good idea some one else comes on & says that's a mafia tactic.... I can see the logic but I don't want this game to fade out as the last one did a bit... also when peeps get bored & stop contributing it helps the evil ones hide away...

ok you say what is needed is some accusing so here's my idea's ... I hope other players follow & list there suspicions....

fos mike blue, yorkshire & trick pony ... the reason cause they have all reverted back into playing up petty squabbles that they started in previous games it shows there not really trying to work out what's really going on in this game it's just to much of an easy way out ... what do you think about the rest of the peeps playing the game....

other things I think are that tommy has gone quiet since he was put in the spotlight .

& hammer & hammerbro (especially hammer who said he did not like peeps not contributing) are too quiet

masterzulu get involved

I still think a deadline would be good to keep the game going.



Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 20, 2008, 11:08:02 PM
Hi people, sorry I havn’t been on for a bit, I couldn’t get on most of yesterday and last night though so I’ve just been reading through and catching up now.

Afroboy-you are a kid so your interest in the game fluctuates...and the fact I know your age and stage of life I give you a pass most times...lol! that being said...so far not posting much content...but you are posting and giving opinions even if I can't per say follow the thinking....but for now...I don't see anything too much as not enough posting to determine anything.
I couldn’t have worded this longer if i tried! And as for my thoughts on bluestars so far I have no major suspicions.

Don't think there is any point really speculating at this point about potential mafias groups. All we should know is that probably roughly a quarter of us playing are some sort of baddies, and that could even be well off. Shouldn't rule out a cult, as fundamentalist muslim terrorists seem to recruit people so thats a possibility.

(Sorry for early inactiveness. Back and kicking now)

Also I love how people always say I'm a good player at this, when to my memory i've never done anything decent in the whole history of Axeman mafia aside from my valiant attempts to set up some rules in the kingmaker game, and my ultimately wrong idea that Bluestars had made some freudian slip in a game.


This is a decent post and sums up my feelings mainly, however accuseing people is the only way forward. Eventually someone will slip up. Steven or Bluestars tradionally make a list of peoples post countsm so when they do that I think they should also count "worthwhile" posts. That should flush out those who are posting alot, but saying little. It's those we have to look out for.
This post is complete garbage, for a start when did everyone start saying you were a good mafia player ???

Also you said that “accusing people is the only way forward”, well if everyone was like you so far we wouldn’t get anywhere as you say this yet put no accusations in your post!!

And then you say about bluestars and steve should do a “worthwhile” post count, if you wanted one to find anything out you should try to do one yourself and not leave all the dirty work to others.

Vote Hammer
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 21, 2008, 12:34:41 AM
FOS laserblue for spacing  >:(

To me wanting a deadline is only helping he mafia get to the night phase .. day one is and should be the longest day .. what's the rush?  alot of people are hiding and we'll be no better off on day 2 and beyond .. question people and get them on is the only way to progress today ..
I think Happy hasn't done much (as usual on day 1) .. afroboy came on and just agreed with others and disapeared again .. zulu is new but not saying much .. TP started alot of shit and then vanished.  Hammerbro also isn't doing enough in my mind .. this is not to say I suspect you of being evil just you need to contribute so the rest of us don't feel like we have to keep this rolling.  Even TCH is now quiet but I suspect that's to get him off the radar as posters seem to be the flavour of the moment. 

Yorkshire apart from the spacing why is your vote still on me?  I'd like to know why  ??? 

On the theory of 2 or more mafia cells we really won't know for a day or 2 if this is the case.  Idle speculation at the moment. 

On the theory that your role will change - I think it's highly unlikely uless your recruited - different mod and all - just a quick question to whoever was gandalf and strider in LOTR (can't be arsed looking it up) - did you know if you died at night your character would change?  and even if they changed they didn't swap sides. 



I was Strider in LOTR and I knew about the role change before the game. Only problem was that it was only if I got killed in the night phase and if I got lynched I died there and then. The rest is history....best role ever and never got to play it!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 21, 2008, 04:43:07 AM
thanks for that mikeblue .. still not sure if currieman would add that to this game as it's a different set of circumstances
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 21, 2008, 12:42:26 PM
Hi people, sorry I havn’t been on for a bit, I couldn’t get on most of yesterday and last night though so I’ve just been reading through and catching up now.
I couldn’t have worded this longer if i tried! And as for my thoughts on bluestars so far I have no major suspicions.
This post is complete garbage, for a start when did everyone start saying you were a good mafia player ???

Also you said that “accusing people is the only way forward”, well if everyone was like you so far we wouldn’t get anywhere as you say this yet put no accusations in your post!!

And then you say about bluestars and steve should do a “worthwhile” post count, if you wanted one to find anything out you should try to do one yourself and not leave all the dirty work to others.

Vote Hammer

Didn't say they should, just saying they normally do one. I'm not ordering around anyone.

Also i'm not one to come out accusing in my first post for pointless reasons like a few do. I like to give a few reads of a post before flying into conclusions.

As for my relative inactivity, its been my enrolment week, at Uni and since thats out the way, I can get properly involved again.

Your whole post seems like its an attempt to cast suspiscion on me early like im a threat.
Fos:Afroboy

Later today I'll have come up with some thoughts, however you picking on me when I already have a few votes on my for inactivity stinks of opportunism, and I think it should be noted by the others.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 21, 2008, 01:48:11 PM
Didn't say they should, just saying they normally do one. I'm not ordering around anyone.
 
Fair enough on this point.

Also i'm not one to come out accusing in my first post for pointless reasons like a few do. I like to give a few reads of a post before flying into conclusions.
I didn’t say you should make pointless accusations, there is a lot in the game to comment on and so far in two posts all you have done is answered me, the way I see it is don’t post garbage and your first post to me was mostly garbage.

Your whole post seems like its an attempt to cast suspiscion on me early like im a threat.
Fos:Afroboy
Well spotted… My post was me thinking you were suspicious and I do see you as a threat so I told everyone else what I thought so they could see that… Now if I’m not mistaken challenging people like this is a main part of the game!

Later today I'll have come up with some thoughts, however you picking on me when I already have a few votes on my for inactivity stinks of opportunism, and I think it should be noted by the others.
Of course I’m going to pick on you if I think your one and only post looks very suspicious and as for opportunism, I’m voting for completely separate reasons, there votes have nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 21, 2008, 05:47:24 PM
Of course I’m going to pick on you if I think your one and only post looks very suspicious and as for opportunism, I’m voting for completely separate reasons, there votes have nothing to do with it.

Very convenient. It's easy just to say your voting for different reasons. I don''t know your true intentions yet, I just hope your just misguided. You picked on my post, perhaps noticing I had the most votes and maybe tryed to bandwagon a lynch.
______

Miasg, Trick Pony and Tommy are all still involved in there work-based shenanigans. To me they all look dodgy, but this little nugget caught my eye.

well the easiest way to stop it is get rid of the instigator. Miasg and myself do not carry on against one another in this or the last game, there is one common denominator. It spoils it for us as much as for you. So if you don't like it vote him off you won't have any objections from me.
Otherwise TP can try playing the game and cast suspicions on other people.

_____
when hammer modded the last game he got really pissed of with peeps who did not post & now he is doing the same thing ....  >:(

And predominantly I got annoyed with people taking the piss out of the effort I went through to set up the game, by just whingeing about deadlines, and then modkilling themselves. I've been inactive for roughly 4 days since I didn't know the game started, and had a very busy week in terms of Uni. Not making excuses, just explaining why I was gone, and that now I am back fully.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Quig on September 21, 2008, 09:43:27 PM
Unvote: Sir hammer since he has now arrived and posted. Still unsure on who to actually vote for but i think that miasg is acting a bit suspect.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 22, 2008, 12:23:34 AM

I was waiting for that ...as soon as I said a deadline would be a good idea some one else comes on & says that's a mafia tactic.... I can see the logic but I don't want this game to fade out as the last one did a bit... also when peeps get bored & stop contributing it helps the evil ones hide away...

other things I think are that tommy has gone quiet since he was put in the spotlight .

I still think a deadline would be good to keep the game going.


I don't mind if we have a deadline, i suppose i liked them in my games so don't mind if we impose one or not. We have i think only 2 votes at current as the leading vote getter, myself and miasg ?? So a long way off the 8 required. If we haven't got anywhere by the end of next week i'd hope we might consider it.

Well it was the weekend Laser so posting does tend to be a bit less.

Not much has happened though over the weekend that i can make out, or no glaring mistakes or errors that i have picked up on.

Hammer what in my post that you quoted caught your eye ? Can you elabourate
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 22, 2008, 03:06:28 PM
Unvote: Sir hammer since he has now arrived and posted. Still unsure on who to actually vote for but i think that miasg is acting a bit suspect.

My vote is on MIASG, I think he's evil..  end of..  read back through and notice my points on the previous page.. I think he's slipped and my vote will stay on him unless something happens to 1) make me think otherwise  or 2) someone else makes a glaring mistake...

MIASG basically accepted my vote and moved on as to not cause any stir about himself.. and it's worked, nobody else is putting pressure on him..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 22, 2008, 03:22:06 PM
Trying to catch up on posting to the predictions league scoring...I'll come back and post in a few...just didn't want the whole...she's online and hasn't posted...blah blah blah to start...so just saying....give me a few.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 22, 2008, 03:50:14 PM
unvote Sir Hammer

This is getting very difficult. Everyone's being unusually cagey. I usually like to pick up on what people have said, in order to accuse them. But as no one seems to be saying anything of note, i'm going to have to pick up on what people aren't saying.

Hammerbro's contribution to the game

Bit early for votes at the moment. Best to assess the situation. 15 peopl. Proberly 5/6 evil people. So either 2 mafia or 1 mafia a cult and a serial killer in my eyes. Or even a bigger mafia. 2 different attacks doesnt mean 2 mafia. Its proberly just to show that there is a mafia as oppossed to an unlucky event.

Well, the usual first day shenanigans. No real solid arguments or anything. Most people blabberin and voting for personal reasons that come from outside the game. I'll poke my brother to come post but until then, Vote: Sir Hammer for not posting.

Unvote: Sir hammer since he has now arrived and posted. Still unsure on who to actually vote for but i think that miasg is acting a bit suspect.

The first two posts offer no opinions at all. They're just pointless. The last one hints at an opinion, saying that MIASG is suspect, but no reasons are given so it's pointless, and not a worthwhile contribution. Explain why he's looking suspicious, and we might get somewhere. FOS Hammerbro for offering nothing.


Yorkshire Blue's contribution to the game

fos mikeblue :laugh:
been good all his games as to be evil this one >:D :laugh:

cant the three aussies stop going after one another its the same every game it just ruins it
i will leave my vote for now because theres no one really looking sus
there is still alot of people to vote aswell

i like the way you put a line between every sentence to make it look like youve posted alot. in the post above you go after one person again and who is it your workmate tch then to make your own post look big you throw in some crap at the bottom of it which does not help at all. there is also laserblue in that list what do u think of him apart from funny stuff.
vote miasg

Again, same pattern as Hammerbro. Both of those first two posts say nothing at all. Unless he turns out to be mafia with mikeblue or something. And the third is the absolute most ridiculous post we've ever had in one of these games. I mean, line spacing?

Not posting, no opinions and not helping seems to be the main reasons he used to vote. They're valid reasons. Unfortunately for Yorkshire, he's the co-leader of all of them.

FOS Yorkshire Blue

You've both been equally inept. I can't choose between you to vote at the moment, so i'll see who ups their game and helps us out a bit first.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 22, 2008, 04:16:45 PM
Deff FOS BLUESTARS,,,  :bleh:

Brillant....way to add to the game Wes....you give hardly any response as to why you see no reason to give any information to your vote for players in this game....you simply say....yeah I said that would be a bad idea to post a vote quickly and then not stay active in the game...then you do exactly that...when called out on it...you say...okay fine I see...then offer little more. Um...hello...how can this not be viewed as anything but suspicious....it's either a blatant attempt to admit and run shifting attention to others....or an attempt to keep quiet in the game as to appear active...and yet have a clear agenda...whether that is an evil agenda...or an attempt to save your backside at this point...I will at the very minimum view as suspect...but not completely convinced as evil...but FOS WESMANCITY....is definate for me at this point.

Hammer....I think that your active schedule caused you to miss where I have already supplied my opinions on all players...quite a lengthy post I might add and looks even worst as I attempted to not trigger yorkshireblue to vote for me...lol!!! I think your being busy post is probably honest as I see you've missed participating in the predictions league and even though that shouldn't count as what I would consider evidence in the game...it does make me think your story of being busy is probably honest....however.. ...it is a game...and that being said...when one of the active players goes absent....especiall y one that normally offers posts...I think it is more noticeable.

Hammersbro...that being said...nice unvote on your bro there...but quiet you've been much of this game and offered not anything of worth really....must say that is a flag to me at this point.

Masterzulu....came on and posted what he felt was enough to not trigger suspicions...basica lly to me it offered little and at the same time...still unsure.

TP...gone very quiet after stirring the pot a good bit on the first few posts....seems really odd to me...especially since miasg and tch have no problem continuing to stay active in the game...but have to say this is kind of TP's play at this point...he does this almost every game...very active at first...starts a fight with miasg or tch and then disappears...comes back on, normally because I'm calling him out, votes for me....and goes crazy...posts like mad...and then disappears again or is killed off...sooo...his behavior is typical and for that...I'm actually...as weird as it sounds...not suspecting him...of much at this point...but I think that it would be good for town if TP would continue to participate in the game...there are other players than just his coworkers..and not offering the town his insights or views or sussing is not helping the town. That being said....I now wait for him to explode, vote for me and freak out....either way his absense after all this posting at first seems enough to vote when compared to anyone else at this point...
VOTE Trick PONY...que TP melt down.

I still think that the idea of a self imposed deadline for voting is a good idea....like I said before because it is really hard to keep going on and on...especially on a day one...when it can drag forever...that being said...I called it self-imposed meaning...not a change in the game rules...so if everyone feels for example next week we need to keep talking it out...fine...but that as a basis of play...maybe a weekly or biweekly schedule of everyone voting at least....but if that is not something everyone in town wants to do...fine by me...I just suggested it based on the last game having trouble keeping folks active.

That being said...this week I'm going to be here...but towards the last part of the week I will be in training...and I may be able to get on after work...but I just will not have the opportunity to be as active during the day...I went ahead and submitted a vote today as I'd been holding out to wait and give the first day a chance to play out a bit...but since I'm the one thinking the game should try to stay on a weekly or biweekly pace...I'll go ahead and go out and vote for now and give ample time for response.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 22, 2008, 04:20:07 PM
I just posted while hippo was posting...go figure...but I was not about to not post as it took me forever to write...lol...I've read over what Hippo had to say....and although I've never heard the term "cagey" before I think that just means...not saying much or giving away much...and to that I say...it's Day one...and over time some might have given away more than can be taken at first...so to that...I guess I agree...but we will not know until the game progresses.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 22, 2008, 04:24:17 PM
Okay...sorry I really botched my posting and meant to say that I found TP to be suspicious and was going to go ahead and vote for him...but mistyped...sorry it was confusing...I didn't want to edit it...but the point of it all was to say....he's been suspect by being active early...and quite aggressive and has now virtually disappeared...and therefore I voted for him...really sorry...it's monday..here not enough coffee.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on September 22, 2008, 05:53:49 PM
Vote count
3 – Trick Pony (TCH, MiasG, Bluestars)
2 – MiasG (YorkshireBlue, StevenRyals)
2 – TCH (Wesmancity, Trick Pony)
1 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue)
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 23, 2008, 12:22:47 AM
Anyone gonna post? Or are you just waiting for the night phase?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 23, 2008, 12:57:17 AM
well after the initial flurry of posts it has quietened down a fair bit. i hope your a quick typer BLuestars or that would take half the night to type.

I agree TP has gone quiet, he sprouted on yesterday that he was going to post when he go home but another false promise. Nothing posted trying to lay low and hope people don't call him out.

What is your reason Steve that you think miasg is evil ? Is because of where he goes on about 2 mafia cells ?

Next, Masterzulu is still very quiet, my pet hate is innactive players. After that i am suspicious of Wes for his one line posts with no substance and Yorkshire for the wost vote of mafia history.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 23, 2008, 01:16:12 AM
My vote is on MIASG, I think he's evil..  end of..  read back through and notice my points on the previous page.. I think he's slipped and my vote will stay on him unless something happens to 1) make me think otherwise  or 2) someone else makes a glaring mistake...

MIASG basically accepted my vote and moved on as to not cause any stir about himself.. and it's worked, nobody else is putting pressure on him..
Steven I think you are misleading the people .. I didn't go tit for tat if that's what you think accepting the vote and I tried in a few posts since your vote to explain what I ment .. apart from revealing my character how else do you want me to convince you?  I can't help that others aren't seeing your vision. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 23, 2008, 01:30:05 AM
Still waiting for yorkshire blue to post again and explain his vote on me .. He has posted nothing since the "I'm voting for you for line spacing as your trying to make it look like you post alot"  .. I think content out weigh's the length anyway  .. if it's long and crap people aren't stupid and pick up on it - unless your skimming ..

Anyone gonna post? Or are you just waiting for the night phase?
some are still trying to play the game .. and others are still playing a game   >:(

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 23, 2008, 01:31:45 AM
well after the initial flurry of posts it has quietened down a fair bit. i hope your a quick typer BLuestars or that would take half the night to type.

I agree TP has gone quiet, he sprouted on yesterday that he was going to post when he go home but another false promise. Nothing posted trying to lay low and hope people don't call him out.

What is your reason Steve that you think miasg is evil ? Is because of where he goes on about 2 mafia cells ?

Next, Masterzulu is still very quiet, my pet hate is innactive players. After that i am suspicious of Wes for his one line posts with no substance and Yorkshire for the wost vote of mafia history.

Iv been busy reading everyones posts to see what others have to say with out me for a few days, I will post on them at later today, though I see your still strongly defending MIASG TCH, so as far as im concerned your mafia from your previous slip ups, nothing more to be said about you, if everyone cant see your evil already its because they are probably with you as well.

I think Steve is townie at this stage, nothing sus from his quotes so far.

Bluestars has done the usual im busy so cant post :bleh: :bleh: :bleh: then all of a sudden I can post all day long, im sure everyone lives busy lifestyles so that excuse doesnt slide with me anymore, you just havent bothered to post because you only need to skim read because your mafia with TCH and MIASG.  And yes I have read everything you have had to say....

Not sure on Yorkshire, Afroboy and Sir Hammer at the moment, probably townie, almost too quiet.

Im sure MIASG is mafia as well as he isnt playing his normal townie game of actually trying to help the town, he would normally be interpreting everything and questioning every little quote that leaves anything open for possible suggestion, though as I presume he already knows whos who because hes probably mafia thats the only possible explanation of why he would be doing that.   Also I agree with Steve on this one, MIASG is def evil mafia scum, I dont care if I change my vote from TCH to MIASG to get things moving as I know they are both Mafia so either way win win situation for the town...

TCH I also noticed you have been really quiet over the "weekend" too  O0    

I will post on the others later this afternoon / tonight so jump on about 7pm TCH though you only need to skim ready mafioso, I can write a sum up quote for you if you like ...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 23, 2008, 01:54:08 AM
I'm only linked with TCH because of your first post - I have no idea if he's townie or not .. same with bluestars ..

you say you've been reading all the way through to see what people are saying about you? and you post stuff about me and TCH AGAIN .. and then prove Bliuestars right by adding her again .. and still saying you will comment on the others later ... WHY not put it in that post?  you've had nearly a week of inactivity and still found the time to only write about the same old shit ...

WHAT makes me mafia?  So far all I can see is that I use line spacing, stole Steven idea that initially came from me, becuase you said TCH and I were mafia in your first post,  so because both of us have a go back at you that makes us in cohoots and def mafia.  :clown:

As for the way I'm playing I disagree with your view .. I believe I'm playing like I normally do .. there just isn't the amout of value posts to look into so far and I also believe you slipped up early on so I've happy with my vote right now.  What gives you the right to say I'm going to sit back for days and not say anything .. once again that is not helping the town .. it's all about you and staying away from the spotlight that you continually put yourself in.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 23, 2008, 02:35:14 AM
Iv been busy reading everyones posts to see what others have to say with out me for a few days, I will post on them at later today,

i expect you to fail in this task or provide some wishywashy post that doesn't say much.

im sure everyone lives busy lifestyles so that excuse doesnt slide with me anymore, you just havent bothered to post because you only need to skim read because your mafia with TCH and MIASG.

so if you follow this crazy line of logic then it would put everyone who hasn't posted as much as Bluestars as mafia, so Laser, Afro, Hammersbro, Hammer, Zulu, Wes, Mike and Yorkshire are mafia ? Because as you put it quote author=Trick Pony link=topic=10435.msg118957#msg118957 date=1222129905]
you just havent bothered to post because you only need to skim read because your mafia with TCH and MIASG.[/quote]

So in combination with Miasg and myself means that only you, Steve and Hippo are innocent !! Great work TP


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 23, 2008, 02:50:59 AM
Steven I think you are misleading the people .. I didn't go tit for tat if that's what you think accepting the vote and I tried in a few posts since your vote to explain what I ment .. apart from revealing my character how else do you want me to convince you?  I can't help that others aren't seeing your vision. 

no problem if nobody else sees my 'vision'..  I think you've slipped... and my votes on you..  If I end up dead in the night phase..  well..... 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 23, 2008, 03:00:34 AM
So in combination with Miasg and myself means that only you, Steve and Hippo are innocent !! Great work TP

those really aren't good odds there..  TP, Hippo and I have our work cut out for us.. 


(time for pizza and beer)

b back tomorrow
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 23, 2008, 03:31:40 AM
i expect you to fail in this task or provide some wishywashy post that doesn't say much.

so if you follow this crazy line of logic then it would put everyone who hasn't posted as much as Bluestars as mafia, so Laser, Afro, Hammersbro, Hammer, Zulu, Wes, Mike and Yorkshire are mafia ? Because as you put it quote author=Trick Pony link=topic=10435.msg118957#msg118957 date=1222129905]
you just havent bothered to post because you only need to skim read because your mafia with TCH and MIASG.

So in combination with Miasg and myself means that only you, Steve and Hippo are innocent !! Great work TP




dont bother trying to manipulate my words TCH, you stuffed up and have highlighed to the rest of us townies that your  >:D and have brought down MIASG along with you. Like I have said previously it doesnt matter if I get lynched first it will only reinforce the fact that your evil ... I dont need to justify anything more in regards to both you and MIASG your both evil.  I know where my first two votes will be going and thats final.  

I will post to work out the rest of the mafia later tonight like I said before, you will just have to wait...  and MIASG whats all that bs about Bluestars, her posting like that has brought on the response she deserves, shes a grown woman and can handle it so I will wait for her response.

bye bye TCH RIP mate ...  that is all
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 23, 2008, 03:59:01 AM
u still havent finished that novel yet MIASG you have been at it for an hour.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 23, 2008, 04:17:06 AM
u still havent finished that novel yet MIASG you have been at it for an hour.
I had and then I saw this ..this is why he gets on my nerve .. what if I had been comenting on the pompy win in another thread? .. it's info from outside the thread and not called upon.  He's made comments that I haven't posted because I know he's trying to stir me up and it probably has nothign really to do with his character, plus it's been outside the thread. 

What I had originally written was ..

There are a few things bothering me .. one is that this is how TP usually plays when he's normally town .. but it's not too disimilar really from his evil roles .. but I can't see why you seem justified about Bluestars right now .. She was upfront about not being able to play .. you admited to hiding - you state that you wanted to see what people thought about you - you are not interested in assisting town again.. everytime I start to think just maybe your are who you say you are you completely reinforce why I voted for you.  You have also written a few lenghty posts but still no real summerization of everyone like you state you will.  Why are you waiting? 

TCH does appear to be "on my side" and there is no way he knows what side I'm on as I've no idea what side he's on - I find it a bit disturbing plus he's attacked straight up (which was understandable) now he's playing mr nice guy .. and not as active as I would have thought .. confusing the hell out of me but we do appear to have a common thread of thought on who is not acting town.

If I end up dead in the night phase..  well..... 
  well the mafia must be laughing at that if you are town as if I was them I'd be targeting you now in the hopes I get pinged for it - 2 dead townies .. funny thing is I think you and I are on the same team and it's not the evil side .. I've been on your side town and mafia and you don't appear to be acting like your mafia this time.   

I'd like to see some more thoughts written down from Mikeblue, Sir Hammer, Hammerbro, Happy Axeman, Laserblue, Afroboy, Wesmancity, Yorkshire Blue, Masterzulu as you guys are either hiding, saying nothing, or just being complete yes men .. there doesn't appear to be to many original thoughts in this group so far.

I think the majority of mafia is hiding in this group ..





Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 23, 2008, 04:53:39 AM
I had and then I saw this ..this is why he gets on my nerve .. what if I had been comenting on the pompy win in another thread? .. it's info from outside the thread and not called upon.  He's made comments that I haven't posted because I know he's trying to stir me up and it probably has nothign really to do with his character, plus it's been outside the thread. 

What I had originally written was ..

There are a few things bothering me .. one is that this is how TP usually plays when he's normally town .. but it's not too disimilar really from his evil roles .. but I can't see why you seem justified about Bluestars right now .. She was upfront about not being able to play .. you admited to hiding - you state that you wanted to see what people thought about you - you are not interested in assisting town again.. everytime I start to think just maybe your are who you say you are you completely reinforce why I voted for you.  You have also written a few lenghty posts but still no real summerization of everyone like you state you will.  Why are you waiting? 

TCH does appear to be "on my side" and there is no way he knows what side I'm on as I've no idea what side he's on - I find it a bit disturbing plus he's attacked straight up (which was understandable) now he's playing mr nice guy .. and not as active as I would have thought .. confusing the hell out of me but we do appear to have a common thread of thought on who is not acting town.
  well the mafia must be laughing at that if you are town as if I was them I'd be targeting you now in the hopes I get pinged for it - 2 dead townies .. funny thing is I think you and I are on the same team and it's not the evil side .. I've been on your side town and mafia and you don't appear to be acting like your mafia this time.   

I'd like to see some more thoughts written down from Mikeblue, Sir Hammer, Hammerbro, Happy Axeman, Laserblue, Afroboy, Wesmancity, Yorkshire Blue, Masterzulu as you guys are either hiding, saying nothing, or just being complete yes men .. there doesn't appear to be to many original thoughts in this group so far.

I think the majority of mafia is hiding in this group ..




yeah yeah but you "DIDN'T" write that ... another waisted post
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 23, 2008, 04:59:13 AM
  well the mafia must be laughing at that if you are town as if I was them I'd be targeting you now in the hopes I get pinged for it - 2 dead townies .. funny thing is I think you and I are on the same team and it's not the evil side .. I've been on your side town and mafia and you don't appear to be acting like your mafia this time.   

I'd like to see some more thoughts written down from Mikeblue, Sir Hammer, Hammerbro, Happy Axeman, Laserblue, Afroboy, Wesmancity, Yorkshire Blue, Masterzulu as you guys are either hiding, saying nothing, or just being complete yes men .. there doesn't appear to be to many original thoughts in this group so far.

I think the majority of mafia is hiding in this group ..


looks like a subconcious slip up here evil MIASG, I have bolded it and put in the full context so you cant use that poor excuse this time. read it as it is. I've been on your side town
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 23, 2008, 05:46:23 AM
.. funny thing is I think you and I are on the same team and it's not the evil side .. I've been on your side town and mafia and you don't appear to be acting like your mafia this time.   


i'm not sure about this either, i didn't think the two of you have been evil in the same game or on the same side more than once
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 23, 2008, 05:58:28 AM
well my character has appeared in all the 24 series and I doubt anyone that's not town can claim that.

plus you left out 2 words TP .. you should have bolded --> I've been on your side town and mafia
I just left out a few puncuations.  Nice to see TCH come out and actually question me now .. interesting. 

and why was that a wasted post?  .. gee you are an idiot sometimes.  If anything yours is the wasted post - what do you say? my thoughts were down for everyone to see .  Another point is you are obviously reading over my shoulder .. I'm just glad I didn't remove anything or I'm sure you'd have written that down as well.  I actually do post on other threads other than mafia unlike you.  And WTF does "I've been on your side town" actually supposed to mean ?  you say
I have bolded it and put in the full context so you cant use that poor excuse this time. read it as it is. I've been on your side town
- ah no you didn't .. it's not in full context and I read it as it is and it makes no fucking sense to me.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 23, 2008, 06:04:44 AM
well my character has appeared in all the 24 series and I doubt anyone that's not town can claim that.

plus you left out 2 words TP .. you should have bolded --> I've been on your side town and mafia
I just left out a few puncuations.  Nice to see TCH come out and actually question me now .. interesting. 

and why was that a wasted post?  .. gee you are an idiot sometimes.  If anything yours is the wasted post - what do you say? my thoughts were down for everyone to see .  Another point is you are obviously reading over my shoulder .. I'm just glad I didn't remove anything or I'm sure you'd have written that down as well.  I actually do post on other threads other than mafia unlike you.  And WTF does "I've been on your side town" actually supposed to mean ?  you say  - ah no you didn't .. it's not in full context and I read it as it is and it makes no fucking sense to me.


read it again its above that part in bold in "your quote"
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 23, 2008, 06:14:21 AM
well my character has appeared in all the 24 series and I doubt anyone that's not town can claim that.


can anyone who watches 24 narrow down a list of people it might be ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 23, 2008, 06:18:07 AM
well good old Wikipedia did it for me

Quote
24 is known for making major changes to its main cast every season—the sole exception being Kiefer Sutherland, who is the only main cast member to star in all six seasons to date. Glenn Morshower, who plays Aaron Pierce, is the only actor besides Sutherland to appear in all six seasons.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 23, 2008, 06:28:16 AM
unvote TP
VOTE TCH

nice one sherlock
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 23, 2008, 06:33:47 AM
well your the one who wrote it and by going and finding out who it was you now vote for me !! You should have researched it yourself before making such a bold statement.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 23, 2008, 06:49:45 AM
well someone had to help the day go forward ...

and TCH in your research you have known i was 1 of 2 people, one which is a major character, the other not so, and for the benefit of the town it should have been left unsaid?  an experienced player like yourself has possibly assisted 1 side and it aint town ..

I assumed there were more then 2 - I can think of 4 other people who I'm sure are in every series I've seen .. I know who my character is why would I need to look it up?

I'm also deducing then you knew TP and I weren't mafia and knew he'd start up on me and if either of us went early then the other is prime suspect - therefore killing 2 townies straight up .. if it's true .. nice - kudos on that strategy.

Happy to be investigated but I'm sure it could be used better in suspecting other peeps.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Quig on September 23, 2008, 09:24:36 AM
Make the day go forward? By getting possibly the best character lynched? Great. But anyway, you proberly wont get lynched for it since only mafia will want you dead. Also, voting TCH just for saying that is a bit stupid. You basicly said who you were, most people proberly knew anyway and if they didnt, i assume they would of just wiki'ed it anyway.

Oh no a space.
Anyway, Trick Pony for trying to use "he made a Freudian slip" because to be honest, that doesnt happen. It's more than likely to be an actual mistake with no bearing on alighnment.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 23, 2008, 11:31:20 AM
I dont trust Wes, that fake note is a sign that he is into crime... lol

I'm tempted to vote bluestars for making my eyes bleed with her essays. lol

Sometimes its neater to use return twice and write in organised paragraphs...

in VERY Long posts.

in short posts, although line spacing does kinda annoy me too sometimes, i dont see what the major problem is. ???

Deadlines are needed sometimes, but as long as people are contributing and the game moves along then there not really needed, not on the first day... although maybe it should be capped at 3 weeks or maybe a month? lol

Ive recently bought a printer again, so I'll be able to print this all off and analyze shit better, but for the moment apart from the Aussie tittle tattle, there is not much else in way of arguments...



soz for not being on much guys, Real life has interupted... just like it has now, got to go out again... But I'll be deffo be catching up and posting my thoughts at least once a day from now on.  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 23, 2008, 12:06:30 PM
Make the day go forward? By getting possibly the best character lynched?
  never said I was the best character .. plus if you had been contributing more maybe I wouldn't have had to put up with all shit I was copping on the thread (and off it  >:( ) and for actually trying to play the game .. it might be directed at Hammerbro but it stands for the majority of others .. but dude 4 posts - 1st one - too early to vote - 2nd vote hammer he's not around - 3rd - unvote hammer, 4th last post .. how does that help me know which side you might be on or not .. THE MAFIA ALREADY KNOW WHO IS NOT ON THEIR SIDE - WE DON'T !

thanks must go to TP for being such a turd and playing the way he has for so often.  when will you people see that  ???  if I go early it'll be a victory for him and he'll be pleased and probably mod kill himself again as there's nothing in it for him.  Can anyone explain his last lot of posts to me about what I said because I sure as shit can't figure it out.  :clown: if you are town - bravo for not helping once again.

Hammerbro others may have wiki'd that's true but TCH was the one who put it all out there for the mafia that I'm potentially the main character ..   
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 23, 2008, 12:09:17 PM
actually fuck it - if we don't want to lose a townie today then I'll vote no vote (currieman it's a thought not an actual unvote then vote) to ensure we have a fighting chance at night  :punish:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 23, 2008, 12:38:15 PM
What the fuck is going on here people???

Happy my vote for Yoky is fully justified if you read my posts. Are you skim reading?  ::) And to say I am going for my normal target that is the worst statement I have ever heard! Yes I voted for him in the last game a few times as I thought he was evil. Have you not voted for everyone in this game at some point in Mafia? So to say that is ridiculous to me!

I am leaning to think that one of the Aussies is definatly evil. All this is finally begining to tell a story. MIASG could well be double bluffing at this moment and I am actually inclined to believe that TCH is evil!

FOS TCH AND HAPPY
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 23, 2008, 02:25:22 PM
After reading all posts again, with a different perspective on MIASG and how people have interacted around him.  and there are still way to many under the radar posters at this stage.

Stevenryals - townie - hasent said anything which raises suspicion on him
masterzulu - townie at this stage
hippo - townie at this stage, doesnt raise suspicions so far
MIASG - ... obvious
TCH - Definatley Mafia - RIP TCH  >:D
laserblue - possibly mafia - if TCH turns out to be mafia then laserblue is definatley for defending TCH on various occasions
bluestars - possible mafia with TCH - or townie investigator - including weak vote on me for being inactive for 3 days ... unlikley townie action, otherwise reckless
WES - undecided - lack of posts
Mikeblue - undecided, trying to stay low to survive the first day
yorkshireblue - possible mafia for a bs post on miasg based on line spacing
afroboy - undecided probably reg townie because of his lack of posts - interestingly has no suspicions on bluestars even after her comment towards him page 7 for own reference 
hammerbro - undecided - lack of posts leaning towards mafia with YB page 8 quote
sir hammer - undecided - lack of posts
happy axeman - undecided - lack of posts
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 23, 2008, 02:56:00 PM
sorry havent posted for along time just didnt see anything to put and i made a mess with my last post
actually fuck it - if we don't want to lose a townie today then I'll vote no vote (currieman it's a thought not an actual unvote then vote) to ensure we have a fighting chance at night  :punish:
thanks for that miasg perfect reason for voting you. i admit i made a bad mistake but voting no lynch only helps the mafia
tp please start paying more attention to the rest apart tch and miasg because thats the only people you seem to mention

also happy axeman putting himself down as 100% town looks a bit sus

and tp i am mafia for voting miasg who you have down as mafia ???
masterzulu town at this stage isnt he undecided lack of posts. are you two mafia
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 23, 2008, 03:04:04 PM
Unvote MIASG
for obvious reasons..

Yorkshireblue.. maybe your crackpipe is corroded or something.. 

but why is it sus to say your 100% own???  I'm 100% town?  how about you?

Ridiculous post considering what's happened..  and I'm not even sure you know what's going on because if you did you'd surely not react this way saying "that's exactly why i've voted for you..."

it's just silly..

TP is getting far more suspicious to me.. he has me down as a townie..  i've purposfully played a bit different than usual which I will try to do from here on out...  but he's still sure that I'm town..  I dont like that one bit..  because if he's mafia, then obvioulsy he knows who's town and who's mafia..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 23, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
seeing how you had voted for me StevenRyals I don't really see how thay makes you town in TP's eyes if he now deems me townie ... which I'm sure he was positive I was not .. plus how can masterzulu be classed as townie ? he's probably posted less than everyone ! 

afroboy - undecided probably reg townie because of his lack of posts - interestingly has no suspicions on bluestars even after her comment towards him page 7 for own reference 
Um TP this is the only quote from Bluestars on Page 7
Trying to catch up on posting to the predictions league scoring...I'll come back and post in a few...just didn't want the whole...she's online and hasn't posted...blah blah blah to start...so just saying....give me a few.
and Afro actually mentions Bluestars on this page us well - do you actually think before you type  ???


Yorkshire you make no sense at all .. can't you see sarcasm ?  I actually didn't vote for it .. and also I thought the smilie was a dead give away it was a joke yet you persist in your vote towards me for that and line spacing  .. it's your call and your vote

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 23, 2008, 03:19:00 PM
Hammer what in my post that you quoted caught your eye ? Can you elabourate

Just that you were quite indifferent about killing Trick Pony, but fair enough. I wouldnt blame you.

Hammer....I think that your active schedule caused you to miss where I have already supplied my opinions on all players...quite a lengthy post I might add and looks even worst as I attempted to not trigger yorkshireblue to vote for me...lol!!! I think your being busy post is probably honest as I see you've missed participating in the predictions league and even though that shouldn't count as what I would consider evidence in the game...it does make me think your story of being busy is probably honest....however.. ...it is a game...and that being said...when one of the active players goes absent....especiall y one that normally offers posts...I think it is more noticeable.

Fair point, and I have another sob story. The electricity went in the flat mid afternoon and only now has it been sorted. Again i'm didnt go absent, and will be active from now on. I'm not one to stay silent for long.

The Aussie work thing is going on and I'm sure one of them is Mafia. Steven might have picked up on something because Trick Pony is looking abit suspect. Trying to fit up Miasg and Afroboy, and kissing up to the main posters: Hippo and Steven.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 23, 2008, 03:33:20 PM
***Someone is posting while I posted...I'll respond in another reply****

TP...I of all people do not skim read...what a load of nonsense....prove that point...I'd like to see you try!

I have posted daily except for Saturday and Sunday, both days of which are the weekend in the US and I gave my reasons for being absent...which is polite and responsible as a player in the game!

You however, admit that you intentionally leave the game as a strategy....explain how if you were a townie this would be any help to the town? It doesn't!

You are a self-indulgent player everytime, mafia or town, you come on focus on Miasg, no matter what, you completely disregard the entire playing of the game and offer nothing of worth, then offer up a hissy fit like you are some kind of martyr and honestly....it's a bit tired.

If you are a townie...begin to act like one...play the game...but my suspicions are that you know you are crap and will likely make huge mistakes the more you keep chirppin so therefore you create these lavish lies and utter nonsense to cover up your real inability to play the game!!!

TCH...what reason of any kind of sanity could you give for calling out Miasg as a powerful townie role??? Um...hello..I think I said the best solution any of us townies can do to survive is that if we assume someone to have a powerful townie role is to keep mum on it...and I don't understand at all what motivated that post.

Miasg....BONEHEAD!

Yorkshireblue....ok ay....for you that was a long post...and you admitted that your vote for Miasg was crap...and for that I think everyone agrees...lol...and you did offer a good point on TP...but who hasn't...although I was tempted to change my vote to you for being absent after that previous crap spacing vote...I think for this exact moment...I am willing to see what you have to offer before making a determination.

masterzulu....somew hat absent....then when mentioned seems to come from the woodworks...makes me suspicious....does that mean he's sitting in the background just waiting for something?..and what possible reason does a townie have for not participating...non e!

Hammerbro....very little posting...and then comes in seemingly just in time...he has content...so for now...I'm just waiting.

Wes....totally unsure of him and his limited posting makes me very suspicious considering he's not a quiet one by nature...he's something to hide..whether evil or not is something that I can't determine due to his lack of substance.

Sir Hammer....seems to have no problem posting on other threads...I've not seen him making much of an impact in this game as of yet..and for that I have to say he's moving up my suspicions list.

lots of others are in the game...and are posting...maybe not as heavily and not sticking out in my mind as suspicious...althou gh I say that with caution....with more contributions and substance..I might have other opinions...but these above at the moment catch my eye.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 23, 2008, 03:35:37 PM
Saturday and Sunday, both days of which are the weekend in the US

sorry, didnt read the rest of your post.. got to this and had to laugh..

they live down under eh?   not mars  lol    I think they have weekends there too.. and I right?  :)
(ok, now I'll read the rest of your post)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 23, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Correction...Sir Hammer has posted while I was posting...scratch what I said about posting to another thread and not appearing in the game.

UGH! Someone's posting while I put this bit it again...whatever..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 23, 2008, 03:38:40 PM
sorry, didnt read the rest of your post.. got to this and had to laugh..

they live down under eh?   not mars  lol    I think they have weekends there too.. and I right?  :)
(ok, now I'll read the rest of your post)

:blush:

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 23, 2008, 03:46:53 PM
bluestars, maybe one of us misunderstood yorkshire... but to me it seems as he was reinforcing his vote on MIASG, not saying it was crap...   please review that..

and why, in both of you "list everyone" posts have you left me out?  I've posted plenty for you to gain an opinion on me at the very least..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 23, 2008, 03:48:16 PM
Correction...Sir Hammer has posted while I was posting...scratch what I said about posting to another thread and not appearing in the game.

UGH! Someone's posting while I put this bit it again...whatever..

Actually Bluestars think thats an unfair critcism, as everytime I come on hear I post on Mafia as you can see in my view recent posts
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 23, 2008, 03:59:01 PM
StevenRyals-I am always inclined to not say much about steven as we live together...lol...th at being said...I think he's involved in the game...but trying to not stick out as he loves playing this game and he gets really annoyed getting killed off so early....evil or townie he plays an active game...so at this point...I don't think I notice anything particularly either way at this point in the game

I guess you missed it since it didn't have any spacing....I've not made but one complete listing of my thoughts...I've attempted to respond to things that I saw were most odd or stuck out to me...I've not commented on a few other players in this game and even mentioned that in my last post about lack of substance to really change my mind...and for you...what I stated above still stands.

Well I read that to say he knew his reasons for voting for miasg were crap...hence why he says it was crap...and then goes on to say he'd disagree with Miasg calling for a no lynch...he didn't remove his vote you are correct...but he did admit it was crap!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 23, 2008, 04:02:19 PM
but he goes on to say something to the effect of "this just reinforces my vote for you, this is blatant mafia activity with the novote" etc etc...  and considering what's happened in the last page and a half..  um... kinda silly dont you think?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 23, 2008, 04:06:08 PM
I am not defending YB...his whole post was confusing...as it always is! I only gave him credit for at least putting something more than what he did in previous post...it's all crap to me...offering almost nothing, but compare that to others like Wes's oneliners...and TP...complete utter nonsense...I can't figure anything
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 23, 2008, 04:26:25 PM
ok so unvote miasg
i wont vote tp yet as i am sure he is usually sus but as been town
it doesnt help with him only going after two people
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 23, 2008, 07:41:45 PM
Righhhhht! Im going to read threw the last few pages of the last couple of nights, i have quickly read threw some post which has already made me say somthing. Bluestars what is the concept of this game? surlely it is to try and find evil and make the town win, yes?. Now if you read the last few games i have played i have been able to find evil very quickly and picked up on small things and i have acted quickly. Why sould i rammble on about nonsence stuff if i am sure TCH is mafia? I said my reasons which is that he would not of reacted the way he did if he was town, so im 99% sure he has a role of some kind.

No one else, YET! is sus imo but i am still on page 7, so i will read on and if their is anything else i could give you i will post some more. I am active and have been on here daily but not really found anthing to comment on.

Is Mophead playing this game by the way? im really not sure.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 23, 2008, 07:55:21 PM
well my character has appeared in all the 24 series and I doubt anyone that's not town can claim that.



hmmmm! well if thats true, then you are evil or you have sliped up big time! why give the mafia this sort of info you have obviously got a key role and have not helped to town on bit, really not happy about that statement.........

Ill continue reading...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 23, 2008, 08:11:46 PM
Righhhhht! Im going to read threw the last few pages of the last couple of nights, i have quickly read threw some post which has already made me say somthing. Bluestars what is the concept of this game? surlely it is to try and find evil and make the town win, yes?. Now if you read the last few games i have played i have been able to find evil very quickly and picked up on small things and i have acted quickly. Why sould i rammble on about nonsence stuff if i am sure TCH is mafia? I said my reasons which is that he would not of reacted the way he did if he was town, so im 99% sure he has a role of some kind.

No one else, YET! is sus imo but i am still on page 7, so i will read on and if their is
anything else i could give you i will post some more. I am active and have been on here daily but not really found anthing to comment on.

Is Mophead playing this game by the way? im really not sure.

good post but that last line .... ??? I don't know was it a joke  ??? surley if your on page 7 you should have realised that mophead was not playing... a list of the players
is on page 1  ???

I'm sure you have stated the reasons you are so sure tch is guilty but if you would not mind can you tell us again...

A BIG FOS for masterzulu for not cotributing one little bit...why? too scared you'll give yourself away..... I know it's only his second game but nothing :o

I will  change the fos into a vote if things stay the same.

Damn wes has posted again

I don't watch 24 what does this mean.....?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 23, 2008, 08:19:21 PM
Quote from: MIASG on Today at 05:58:28 AM
well my character has appeared in all the 24 series and I doubt anyone that's not town can claim that.

This doesn't mean anything. Jack Bauer has been in every season, and until season 6 you could have been Tony Almeida. For all we know your role could be Terrorist Henchman #4 and your just lying. It's either that or your Jack Bauer and you've outed yourself in schoolboy fashion.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on September 23, 2008, 08:19:49 PM
Vote count
3 – TCH (Wesmancity, Trick Pony, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony (TCH, Bluestars)
1 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue)
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 23, 2008, 08:49:25 PM
i have been able to find evil very quickly and picked up on small things and i have acted quickly.

Can you demonstrate this amazing ability?

so im 99% sure he has a role of some kind.

WOW... THAT'S INCREDIBLE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 23, 2008, 09:13:57 PM
Can you demonstrate this amazing ability?

WOW... THAT'S INCREDIBLE!!!!!!

 :laugh: :lol:  :laugh: :lol:  :laugh: :lol:  :laugh: :lol:  :laugh: :lol:

My vote sticks with hammer for now - but i am also sus of:

masterzulu, miasg, tch and axeman.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 23, 2008, 09:57:17 PM
:laugh: :lol:  :laugh: :lol:  :laugh: :lol:  :laugh: :lol:  :laugh: :lol:

My vote sticks with hammer for now - but i am also sus of:

masterzulu, miasg, tch and axeman.

boooooooooooooooooo o   you mad the effort to sign on and post..

Why does your vote stick?

Why are you sus of zulu, miasg, tch & axeman?

just because I guess... because you damn well feel like it... 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 23, 2008, 10:12:15 PM
booooooooooooooooooo   you mad the effort to sign on and post..

Why does your vote stick?

Why are you sus of zulu, miasg, tch & axeman?

just because I guess... because you damn well feel like it... 

 :laugh: :lol: :2funny: :laugh:
go on answer the man :laugh:

miasg if you have given your role away ... why? what possible reason would you have for doing that & how will it benefit the town ?
like I said I've not watched 24 but from everyone's reaction you have dropped a bollock .... why
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 23, 2008, 10:13:08 PM
Wes' last post

Haha, you've got to wonder what the other 1% possibility is, if not a role of some kind.

The whole post was great actually. Starts off as a great detective who picks up on the smallest of details, and by the end he's unsure of who's actually playing the game.

The thing he "picked up on" as well, was actually just repeating something i'd already said about TCH, in a post 4 before his (towards the bottom of page 2). Seems to be very eager to make it look like he's doing some actual work to find the scum, when he's just recycling material. FOS Wes for that.

Yorkshire Blue

As i mentioned in a post on the last page, i'm not all satisfied that Yorkshire Blue is a townie and trying to help us. Todays stuff has only re-inforced that.

sorry havent posted for along time just didnt see anything to put and i made a mess with my last post

If you know you made a mess of it, how could you possibly have nothing to say? It makes no sense. Surely you'd want to put it right? What you have just said is that you didn't want to post again, because you slipped up the last time you did. How mafia can you get?

thanks for that miasg perfect reason for voting you. i admit i made a bad mistake but voting no lynch only helps the mafia

Still voting for MIASG at this stage, despite what happened only a few posts before his. And it took a fair bit more discussion about how suspicious this made Yorkie look before he actually changed it. Just seems a bit dodgy to me.

please start paying more attention

Ironic that.

and tp i am mafia for voting miasg who you have down as mafia ???

He didn't have him down as mafia. Read the posts. "please start paying more attention".

You're not helping the town. You're not posting much because you slip up when you do. You're clearly not reading all the posts. What conclusions should we draw from that?

vote Yorkshire Blue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 23, 2008, 11:04:53 PM
Wes' last post

Haha, you've got to wonder what the other 1% possibility is, if not a role of some kind.

The whole post was great actually. Starts off as a great detective who picks up on the smallest of details, and by the end he's unsure of who's actually playing the game.

The thing he "picked up on" as well, was actually just repeating something i'd already said about TCH, in a post 4 before his (towards the bottom of page 2). Seems to be very eager to make it look like he's doing some actual work to find the scum, when he's just recycling material. FOS Wes for that.


FOS me all you want! All it tells me that youre not as good as youre last post says you are.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 23, 2008, 11:10:10 PM
Wes' last post

The thing he "picked up on" as well, was actually just repeating something i'd already said about TCH, in a post 4 before his (towards the bottom of page 2). Seems to be very eager to make it look like he's doing some actual work to find the scum, when he's just recycling material. FOS Wes for that.

Also may i add when THC said this i posted as i read it, as you find thats what i do. then once i posted i carry on reading. So i never realised you commented till i got to your post, so we both picked it up and you are just pissed that you wanted to be the one to say i said it first, which i fine by me, as im not arsed.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 23, 2008, 11:12:37 PM
Wes' last post

You're not helping the town. You're not posting much because you slip up when you do. You're clearly not reading all the posts. What conclusions should we draw from that?

vote Yorkshire Blue

And after all that, you vote Yorkshir blue!!, Why? you are sus of TCH for a slip up but you vote Yorki as hes not helping the town. If yokie is a townie and you voted him of FOS goes to yuo Hippo.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 23, 2008, 11:22:28 PM
anything else to add wes?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 23, 2008, 11:29:33 PM
anything else to add wes?

nope im off to bed now  ;D

night all!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 24, 2008, 12:11:39 AM
Well at least a few pages of activity to read through.

From Bluestars
Quote
TCH...what reason of any kind of sanity could you give for calling out Miasg as a powerful townie role??? Um...hello..I think I said the best solution any of us townies can do to survive is that if we assume someone to have a powerful townie role is to keep mum on it...and I don't understand at all what motivated that post.

If miasg wants to make a statement why would he not expect someone to check it up. Having never watched 24 i have no idea how many there would be there could have been 10 but there were only 2 !! Even miasg admitted he thought there were more. It's his own fault for making the statement without checking first.

And spot on about TP Bluestars,
Quote
a self-indulgent player
  :D


Wes you seem to have me guilty from my first post, which is your perogative. Apart from the Aussie connection you are the only other person to consider me evil. Your reasons are lacking and it seems to be purely gut instinct.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 24, 2008, 12:15:19 AM
FOS me all you want! All it tells me that youre not as good as youre last post says you are.

Reactions, my boy, i'm after reactions. Thanks though. Very informative. I certainly didn't expect you to start lying in response to a weak accusation.

Also may i add when THC said this i posted as i read it, as you find thats what i do. then once i posted i carry on reading. So i never realised you commented till i got to your post, so we both picked it up and you are just pissed that you wanted to be the one to say i said it first, which i fine by me, as im not arsed.

This is quite simply a lie. I'm not even sure why you've said it. It's very obvious if anyone wants to go back and read the first two pages.

1) TCH makes the post
2) You read the posts, and make a post about being careful. No "posting as you read it" about TCH's behaviour.
3) Next day, you read the posts again, and respond to something steve said. Still nothing about TCH.
4) I say something about TCH.
5) 3 hours later (about 36 after TCH's post) you read the posts and now say something about him.

You see why i struggle to believe you. I genuinely don't understand the motivation for lying about it. But you are. Quite simply.

I honestly don't care who said it first (it's not an accusation i personally thought merited a vote), but i do care when people start lying about stuff. That makes them suspicious in my mind. Especially when you're lying to cover up the most ridiculously small point i made about you earlier - i didn't even think you'd respond, what with the whole focus of my post being on someone else.

And after all that, you vote Yorkshir blue!!, Why? you are sus of TCH for a slip up but you vote Yorki as hes not helping the town. If yokie is a townie and you voted him of FOS goes to yuo Hippo.

Right. YB has posted 5 times in this game. In one of them he slipped up (he admits this himself), and in the others he said not alot. Do you think it would be better therefore, to allow him to continue to not post, or try and get him involved, so we get a bit more opportunity to work him out? 

I'll leave it with you.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 24, 2008, 01:48:44 AM
sorry havent posted for along time just didnt see anything to put and i made a mess with my last postthanks for that miasg perfect reason for voting you. i admit i made a bad mistake but voting no lynch only helps the mafia
tp please start paying more attention to the rest apart tch and miasg because thats the only people you seem to mention

also happy axeman putting himself down as 100% town looks a bit sus

and tp i am mafia for voting miasg who you have down as mafia ???
masterzulu town at this stage isnt he undecided lack of posts. are you two mafia

yorkie reread it you noob .. guess you cant get out of the mafia mind set  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 24, 2008, 02:00:56 AM
damn someone messaged .. I'll post again if I think it appropriate

yes I fucked up by not researching .. but I'd had that posted down before - why are people still asking me why I did it?

living in this backwater country we obviously haven't had all the 24 series shown or I just didn't watch the last one - I was thinking at least Jack, his daughter, alemeda, and the nerd IT chick were in every series.   if anything you all must admit it's got folks on and posting alot more  :D  if I could have my time again I would have taken 10 deep breaths and not posted that - or at least read it before sending.  

In playing this game sometimes I'll write down what I think and then I might change it or remove parts of it (I doubt i'm the only one) - for logical reasons or whatever .. now seeing that TP keeps reading over my shoulder I was in a hurry to get thoughts out before he could read them .. simple mistake .. yes .. helping town .. not in the short term .. I think though a few alliances have come roaring out in the past 3-4 pages which will assist later on .. I''ll be interested to see who starts back tracking now ... I'm also assuming that there is someone who might be able to hopefully protect me tonight and I'll be around for at least another day hopefully longer - so the mafia have choice to make - take out the possible strongest player - or leave him in possibly at there own peril ..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 24, 2008, 02:02:23 AM
yorkie reread it you noob .. guess you cant get out of the mafia mind set  ???
mindset  ???  pot .. kettle .. black  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 24, 2008, 02:03:20 AM
ok so unvote miasg
i wont vote tp yet as i am sure he is usually sus but as been town
it doesnt help with him only going after two people

whys it two people ? TCH is mafia so im voting for him. and read above I have my suspicions on everyone else i just keep them quiet while trying to figure people out, people will try to use different tactics for the first day but end up going back to their normal playing style eventually before the end of the first day, which is why i waited before posting on everyone.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 24, 2008, 02:39:58 AM
TCH is mafia so im voting for him.

well with miasg's slip you now have only one aussie to vote for therefore i must be mafia.

I have my suspicions on everyone else i just keep them quiet while trying to figure people out

Well that doesn't help in this game, the whole point is to express them so people can comment and see if they agree or disagree with your suspicions. As far as i can see you only express your suspicions on Australians and Girls.

Even Yorkshire mentions it

Quote
tp please start paying more attention to the rest apart tch and miasg because thats the only people you seem to mention


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 24, 2008, 03:03:56 AM
well with miasg's slip you now have only one aussie to vote for therefore i must be mafia.

Well that doesn't help in this game, the whole point is to express them so people can comment and see if they agree or disagree with your suspicions. As far as i can see you only express your suspicions on Australians and Girls.

Even Yorkshire mentions it


Still trying to survive I see TCH ... I cant believe your still alive after your blow out ... we know know MIASG is almost def townie unless anyone else can contest it.  I have posted my thoughts on eveeryone else at this stage based on all of there posts, though you would know that if you read every post.  Im looking for the other mafia members now your old new TCH. Its up to everyone else to work out your mafia 3 people voting for you cant get you lynched at this stage...

Im going to re-read posts from over the last 2 days to see possible connections to TCH etc and post later tonight, once I have "left work" to reduce reaction posting like the usual aussie bs posted while at work. TCH you cant say anything to sway my vote, I know im townie and will role claim just to have you killed early  :laugh: 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 24, 2008, 03:23:07 AM
but at the end of the day if all three of us are townies it goes to show how your playing style in attacking miasg and myself is not productive to helping the town. As if you role claim town, i still believe you have a non normal townie role or mafia role, miasg has let it be known he's town and not a normal townie as Jack and you get me lynched as town then it means the mafia will know nicely who to target in the night phase.

miasg posted that he made his slip up in haste as was sick of someone constantly looking over his shoulder. That person is not me. So you caused miasg to stuff up

I agree with Hippo's insights into Wes and Wes would have my vote if it wasn't for TP.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 24, 2008, 03:26:39 AM
we know know MIASG is almost def townie unless anyone else can contest it. 
although I haven't claimed to be anyone specific you can't fake role claim it's in the rules - which you never read.  If anyone has put the town in a bad situation it's a direct result of your stupid playing .. accusing the same people for no reason but 100% believing it and then go hiding and say your helping the town .. please :clown:

self-indulgent player =  :wanker:


Im going to re-read posts from over the last 2 days ....... I know im townie and will role claim just to have you killed early  :laugh: 
  why just 2 days  ???  and you just keep proving a point that your in it to get your workmates over anyone else .. if TCH is evil (and I think there's a good case for it) you just keep on making him look less likely .. how is role claiming to be mod killed making him actually mafia  ??? you were convinced we were in it together and that's been proven wrong.

your still not really looking at others then are you .. and I believe you still have to post your thoughts from your "time away" ..


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 24, 2008, 03:27:21 AM
I know im townie and will role claim just to have you killed early  :laugh: 

you're useless to the town TP...    completely useless..  it's obvious you have an agenda.. you just want to say "i got you killed, ha ha ha"...

stop this bullshit.. it's old..  

I've not voted TCH, but UNVOTE TCH, because it's obvious that anyitng you say is nothing but propaganda...

Vote TP

And TCH, you're an idiot..  the code in which you speak is shit.. corky the retard can figure out what you're said a few posts ago while doing a back flip and counting to 1000 only with prime numbers..  and corkey's retarded.. oh. i already said that.. no offense to any of you that may be challenged in that way..  :)    
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 24, 2008, 04:14:47 AM
well at least someone noticed it, remember there is a wide range of intellects here

from  :clown: to  :1st:

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 24, 2008, 04:19:12 AM
well at least someone noticed it, remember there is a wide range of intellects here

from  :clown: to  :1st:



:laugh: your in the :clown: basket TCH along with MIASG and myself, Steve will be in there soon if im forced to role claiming, your all obviously not helping the town as well fools. Mafia probably havent even voted yet, well apart from TCH.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 24, 2008, 04:30:18 AM
OK can TP and TCH stop having a go at each other .. WE GET IT .. I GET IT .. CORKEY GETS IT

you have voted for each other with 11 or so pages of reasons .. ENOUGH ..


UNVOTE TCH because really TP has made me think twice about him


VOTE YORKSHIRBLUE for voting for the most bizare reasons ever and only taking his vote off me after it was pointed out he's still voting for a probable town .. just quietly your not having or had a stroke are you?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 24, 2008, 05:41:42 AM
i do not have net access at home now until the weekend so i will only be posting during the day here when most of you are sleeping. Come the weekend i might not be able to post at all if everything is not finished in time.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 24, 2008, 12:00:04 PM
OK can TP and TCH stop having a go at each other .. WE GET IT .. I GET IT .. CORKEY GETS IT


Bl**dy h*ll  who's corkey ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 24, 2008, 12:01:06 PM
Reactions, my boy, i'm after reactions. Thanks though. Very informative. I certainly didn't expect you to start lying in response to a weak accusation.

This is quite simply a lie. I'm not even sure why you've said it. It's very obvious if anyone wants to go back and read the first two pages.

1) TCH makes the post
2) You read the posts, and make a post about being careful. No "posting as you read it" about TCH's behaviour.
3) Next day, you read the posts again, and respond to something steve said. Still nothing about TCH.
4) I say something about TCH.
5) 3 hours later (about 36 after TCH's post) you read the posts and now say something about him.

You see why i struggle to believe you. I genuinely don't understand the motivation for lying about it. But you are. Quite simply.

I honestly don't care who said it first (it's not an accusation i personally thought merited a vote), but i do care when people start lying about stuff. That makes them suspicious in my mind. Especially when you're lying to cover up the most ridiculously small point i made about you earlier - i didn't even think you'd respond, what with the whole focus of my post being on someone else.

Right. YB has posted 5 times in this game. In one of them he slipped up (he admits this himself), and in the others he said not alot. Do you think it would be better therefore, to allow him to continue to not post, or try and get him involved, so we get a bit more opportunity to work him out? 

I'll leave it with you.

PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF HIPPOS POST!!

ONE THING IS FOR SURE, I DONT LIE!!, SO YOU SAID IT FIRST WHIPPY DO! WHEN DO YOU FIND OUT MY CARACTER YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.

CARRY ON!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 24, 2008, 12:59:30 PM
:laugh: your in the :clown: basket TCH along with MIASG and myself, Steve will be in there soon if im forced to role claiming, your all obviously not helping the town as well fools. Mafia probably havent even voted yet, well apart from TCH.

You are not helping the town..  I'd rather vote you off to shut you up and at least have a normal game.
your agenda is f**king the town up..  we dont know if TCH is a danger or what because you've made it personal..
this game CAN NOT be personal, you cannot do that, it doesnt work that way..

if anyone isnt helping the town, its you..  in fact, you're prabably causing more confusion than anything..

stop going after your work people and play the game as it's meant to be played..  otherwise I'd rather you get lynched to allow the town a chance to actually play the game and work things out..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 24, 2008, 01:58:08 PM

Bl**dy h*ll  who's corkey ???

is someone going to enlighten me then ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 24, 2008, 02:01:45 PM

Bl**dy h*ll  who's corkey ???
 I dunno but he get's it .. Steven says he's a retard .. but this isn't helping anyone ..

only thing I can add since my last post is to StevenRyals .. I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO AND YOU BELIEVED HIM  :fist:

and to Wes - this is how Hippo play's  - you say you don't lie but you would if your mafia.

			
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 24, 2008, 02:39:46 PM
only thing I can add since my last post is to StevenRyals .. I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO AND YOU BELIEVED HIM  :fist:

for a couple days I can understand.. but we're over a week into it and he's still on about TCH... 

TCH may in fact be mafia... but who's to know one way or another if TP is just going to have a go at him either way..  he's not picking anything out.. just fighting and blah blah'ing...   it's getting tired to be honest..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on September 24, 2008, 05:48:17 PM
Vote count
3 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue, Hippo, MiasG)
3 – Trick Pony (TCH, Bluestars, StevenRyals)
2 – TCH (Wesmancity, Trick Pony)
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Quig on September 24, 2008, 05:54:52 PM
Trick pony seems to be a man with a big vendetta. Best to just ignore him and hope he goes away. Or force him to go away via lynch if no one reveals themself as evil. For now Unvote: Trick Pony.

Vote: MIASG for his claim that isn't a claim. He seems to be trying to claim to be a good town role without actually coming out and saying it. Bit silly really.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 24, 2008, 06:00:50 PM
ok ... looks like I'll never discover who this corkey geezer is & what he's got to do with the game ???

..... I think it would be good for the game if tp (the other aussies as well .. but mainly tp ) try to focus on the other players in the game...... what are your thoughts on the rest of us?

masterzulu if your not on & at least try to put some thoughts on the board by tonight .. my votes for you ... it could be you've been busy if so let us know? at the mo I can only take it that your hiding cause you don't want to give yourself away?

wes we know you suspect tch but do you suspect anyone else?

yorkshire you have developed a style that is good for you, just the same if your evil or town but it does not help the town if your good because your playing the same way you do when your evil. makes you look suspect?



Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 24, 2008, 06:12:30 PM


I would like everyone to consider the following..

MIASG knew there were a few characters that had been in all seasons and they were all good..   so he makes a broad claim so as to not ruffle feathers...
the only drawback is that most have attributed the main character to him... but he responded to that saying "i didnt say that" and then re-stated the fact that it could be one of many..  why ?  why not say "thats not me" and stick it there... is it because he knows there is a real Kiefer Southerland out there and he doesnt want to get caught out...

Unvote TP..  I will simply ignore him from here on out..  I'd rather get rid of him because he's disrupting the game and making it more difficult for us to determine who's who..  but nobody else is willing to say that and vote him out..  whatever..  he gets my ignore button..

I've watched all the 24's except this coming season, which is a season ahead of the UK I believe..  and there are always cast changes, but the main few seem to always be there..  like the presidents body guard.. keifer southerland, the brainy redhead...  

My character is a character that has NOT been in all the episodes..  is that a claim?  no it leaves too broad of a spectrum to be considered anything but a fact..  

just a thought to consider..  I've taken MIASG's claim like most others did..  but it should be thought out instead of just assuming..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 24, 2008, 08:13:10 PM
VOTE YORKSHIRBLUE for voting for the most bizare reasons ever and only taking his vote off me after it was pointed out he's still voting for a probable town .. just quietly your not having or had a stroke are you?

is it me or does that make no sense ok i voted you and made a mistake but what does the last bit mean
isnt everyone a probable town :laugh:
tp i know im not helping town alot but your really not helping at all please look away from tch and miasg. every post you mention them
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 24, 2008, 08:19:34 PM
isnt everyone a probable town :laugh:

the opposite is true in my eyes..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on September 24, 2008, 09:39:14 PM

masterzulu if your not on & at least try to put some thoughts on the board by tonight .. my votes for you ... it could be you've been busy if so let us know? at the mo I can only take it that your hiding cause you don't want to give yourself away?


I'm not gonna give any lame excuses just havent found the time to get on here, so sorry 'bout that.

Bloody hell you guys are making my head spin lol, been a few days since I last got the time to have a good read and there's quite a bit to go through, looks like a lot more productive posts than the first few pages.

The way in the last couple of pages that TCH and MAISG have had a bit of a go at each other stands out a little for me, since the start of the game they have been sort of seen as being associated, and now we have a little flare up between them, is this a tactic to distance themselves from each other? Is TP right? or is he just gunning after them for personal reasons? I'm leaning towards the latter at the moment, but that doesn't help one bit sort out who's who.

On the whole TP situation, He may have a personal vendetta against TCH and MAISG, who have both voted for him, will the mafia use these 2 votes as a spring board to lynch a townie? He also has a Vote from Bluestars, be interesting to see who else votes for him if anyone.

Everyone else is under my radar at the moment need to do a bit more back reading.

Sorry if the above is a bit disjointed, i'm a bit tired and just wanted to jot down my thoughts.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 25, 2008, 12:55:45 AM
OK then I'm Jack Bauer .. I have absolutely no idea who anybody else is  .. StevenRyals and HammerBro I know for a fact that you are not Jack Bauer - and you aren't claiming to be either - or are you ! 

.. do you think I put TP up to all his shit for me to make a mistake that was pointed out by TCH  ??? get real - if at the end of this game if I am mafia then I should be banned from playing mafia in the future as that would mean I've talked about how I'm goingto play outside this thread - same with the other 2

.... questioning me on who I am seems like a complete waste - but that's becuase I know who I am .. my task is to figure out who people might be but to also confuse the mafia as to what night action they will take .. pretty obvious I thought

Hammerbro to unvote TP and vote for me is lacking some sense of what's gone on .. why forget about him?  you basically saying he can play his own game and cruise through ??  I'm not saying his is mafia but he sure as hell isn't helping town .. a fact that can't be disputed.  Steven same thing .. he's hasn't done anything that's contributed to the town (and in a way forced me to do the same  :annoyed: ) but the town has no idea what he is and you both want to give him a free ride  ??? ??? ??? ??? what's up with that !

Steven I've posted about what lead me to make the statement about being in every series - and what a mistake that ended up being ..

MIASG knew there were a few characters that had been in all seasons and they were all good..   so he makes a broad claim so as to not ruffle feathers...
the only drawback is that most have attributed the main character to him... but he responded to that saying "i didnt say that" and then re-stated the fact that it could be one of many..  why ?  why not say "thats not me" and stick it there... is it because he knows there is a real Kiefer Southerland out there and he doesnt want to get caught out...

I've watched all the 24's except this coming season, which is a season ahead of the UK I believe..  and there are always cast changes, but the main few seem to always be there..  like the presidents body guard.. keifer southerland, the brainy redhead...  

My character is a character that has NOT been in all the episodes..  is that a claim?  no it leaves too broad of a spectrum to be considered anything but a fact..  
your 2nd paragraph is pretty much what I was thinking .. your 3rd paragrah is just saying your not jack .. and your not I am.  Yeah no one else has come out and said it .. and no one will .. I'm not going to mod kill myself that would be an ever bigger mistake .. all i was trying to do for the rest of the town was to say look I'm a town - could be important - lay off me and help find the mafia .. it hasn't backfired on me totally as everyone now knows who I am ..  Also I should clarify an earlier statement of mine part being
although I haven't claimed to be anyone specific you can't fake role claim it's in the rules - which you never read.  If anyone has put the town in a bad situation it's a direct result of your stupid playing .. accusing the same people for no reason but 100% believing it and then go hiding and say your helping the town .. please :clown:

self-indulgent player =  :wanker:
Yes after reading the rules I've realised I made a mistake and there is nothing in the rules about role claiming it was that you can't fake a message from the mod .. whilst I realise it makes hammerbro's and Steven's claims plausable I can't do much more to convince anyone.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 25, 2008, 01:47:23 AM
well there we go not much you can say about the above post.

What i am about to post i have checked with the Cman and he said it was ok. I've deliberated about posting it for a while but it might help people focus on other players or not depending on how you interpret it.

I've mentioned that i am sure that TP has a power role of sorts either town or maifa as when before the game started i asked him if he had received his role and he grinned and said "i just hope i'm not on the same side as miasg"

This to me this means one of two things, he's mafia and misag will be killed at his first opportunity or he is a townine with powers to kill and miasg was dead at the first night phase. With Miasg now coming out it now makes me TP's no 1 target i would say.

I would think as mafia you would know who your other partners in crime are so i think say he is more likely to be a town role ??

If he is a town player it has been mentioned by many people his style of play does not help the game and hence i voted for him as i would rather he be gone and focus on playing the game properly. However with miasg outing himself and TP likely to be a town then i feel we need to start looking at other players apart from TP and myself to lynch.

So i'm giving TP a chance to start playing the game properly and unvote Trick Pony If he persits in his normal style i will happily vote him back just to get him out of the game.

Of course TP could have spun me a line, but i think not.

Out of who's left i think the US contingent seem good so it's in the UK where i believe the evil is lurking. So i'm going to vote Afroboy You are not really contributing and trying to catch a free ride into day 2. Your input to the game is similar to me past games when you had an evil role. So come out and defend yourself.

Lastly Laser i don't know who Corky or Corkey is either, i only remember Korky the Cat from the Dandy.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 25, 2008, 01:59:42 AM
OK so you voted for him and targeted him and all along you suspect he is prob town ?? your right in that if he was mafia he would know other mafia (unless the 2 mafia theory is correct and they don't know each other - damn) I would have thought as town that is information that should have been shared long before now .. why sit on it for this long ?  you had already alluded he had given signs before hand .. I guess it was before curriemans 1st offical post so it's not really discussing anything outside the thread - is it? guess not or currie would have mod killed your ass ..

just proves he's after me no matter what but also tried to implicate you as well .. really to me since it's been left so long it doesn't have the impact it could or should have had earlier .. I doubt he'll deny it as he says that before every game.   So we really haven't moved forward with this too much either.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 25, 2008, 02:06:04 AM
no point mentioning it as if you were mafia then no harm done if you die, but with role claiming then it makes no point not mentioning it to stop people looking to vote townies.

This is why now the first lynch is quite important to try and snag a mafia member as some roles are already known.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 25, 2008, 02:16:17 AM
well there we go not much you can say about the above post.

What i am about to post i have checked with the Cman and he said it was ok. I've deliberated about posting it for a while but it might help people focus on other players or not depending on how you interpret it.

I've mentioned that i am sure that TP has a power role of sorts either town or maifa as when before the game started i asked him if he had received his role and he grinned and said "i just hope i'm not on the same side as miasg"

This to me this means one of two things, he's mafia and misag will be killed at his first opportunity or he is a townine with powers to kill and miasg was dead at the first night phase. With Miasg now coming out it now makes me TP's no 1 target i would say.

I would think as mafia you would know who your other partners in crime are so i think say he is more likely to be a town role ??

If he is a town player it has been mentioned by many people his style of play does not help the game and hence i voted for him as i would rather he be gone and focus on playing the game properly. However with miasg outing himself and TP likely to be a town then i feel we need to start looking at other players apart from TP and myself to lynch.

So i'm giving TP a chance to start playing the game properly and unvote Trick Pony If he persits in his normal style i will happily vote him back just to get him out of the game.

Of course TP could have spun me a line, but i think not.

Out of who's left i think the US contingent seem good so it's in the UK where i believe the evil is lurking. So i'm going to vote Afroboy You are not really contributing and trying to catch a free ride into day 2. Your input to the game is similar to me past games when you had an evil role. So come out and defend yourself.

Lastly Laser i don't know who Corky or Corkey is either, i only remember Korky the Cat from the Dandy.



That was yay before the game even started TCH, in general conversation so if I get mod killed for that so should you...

Also why does everyone keep saying that I just focus on TCH and MIASG, fair enough at the start but iv commented on others... get over it. Ill play how I want to, if everyone played the same boring style the game would be sh@t, and you cant say that after all this aussie talk that we havent gotten anything out of it.

Look at whos come out defending who ... some aliances have formed etc.  If I didnt target someone from that start of the day we still wouldnt know whos who, we know half of what we know now... and importantly who to save now so if their is a doc save MIASG, he maybe lying at worst case but as no one can contest it why would you vote him out now... just doent make sence to me Hammerbro...

wow did TP just mention another player again ... OMG he broken the focus aussie circle again  :laugh:


OK so you voted for him and targeted him and all along you suspect he is prob town ?? your right in that if he was mafia he would know other mafia (unless the 2 mafia theory is correct and they don't know each other - damn) I would have thought as town that is information that should have been shared long before now .. why sit on it for this long ?  you had already alluded he had given signs before hand .. I guess it was before curriemans 1st offical post so it's not really discussing anything outside the thread - is it? guess not or currie would have mod killed your ass ..

just proves he's after me no matter what but also tried to implicate you as well .. really to me since it's been left so long it doesn't have the impact it could or should have had earlier .. I doubt he'll deny it as he says that before every game.   So we really haven't moved forward with this too much either.



that is a bit sus TCH, why suspect me being town then try get votes on me  ??? not helping the town

I want to hear from wes, laser, and all of the other quiet people come on guys post a response on your thoughts on all players, not just one from the previous post, as slip ups/ important comments get lost





Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 25, 2008, 02:32:12 AM
no point mentioning it as if you were mafia then no harm done if you die, but with role claiming then it makes no point not mentioning it to stop people looking to vote townies.

This is why now the first lynch is quite important to try and snag a mafia member as some roles are already known.
fair enough but it doesn't make you town or mafia .. and really only helps to clear TP slightly .. although his posts seem to bring him right back into calculations .. (can't believe you took that long to write that TP  :bleh: now do some work before you post again.)



but what does the last bit mean
your posts seemed so erratic so I thought you might have suffered a stroke  :pokey:  I still don't think you have truelly explained why the vote was for me with any rational thought but you have admitted you made a mistake but still only after a few posts against you.    your posts so far - post 1 light hearted banter to FOS Mikeblue, 2nd - have a go at aussies and not vote for now, post 3 - vote me for line spacing, 4th - after my slip up you say it reenforces your vote, 5th - unvote me after others posts, your last post in which you agree your not helping town much.  5 posts that give me no reason to unvote you and think your town. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 25, 2008, 02:53:45 AM

that is a bit sus TCH, why suspect me being town then try get votes on me  ??? not helping the town


as i've mentioned in countless posts your style/agenda does not help the game and i wasn't sure you were not mafia and if it came down to you or me as you were making it then i'd prefer you to get lynched.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 25, 2008, 03:01:35 AM
as i've mentioned in countless posts your style/agenda does not help the game and i wasn't sure you were not mafia and if it came down to you or me as you were making it then i'd prefer you to get lynched.

great so all three of us are townies ... its never happened so far, it could happen though I still dont trust you TCH... I think MIASG is who he said he is though you could still be either mafia or townie, id say mafia still . I will Unvote:TCH for now and review all posts again tonight.

Yorky come out and respond to the questions ...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 25, 2008, 03:20:36 AM
OK then I'm Jack Bauer .. I have absolutely no idea who anybody else is  .. StevenRyals and HammerBro I know for a fact that you are not Jack Bauer - and you aren't claiming to be either - or are you ! 

.. do you think I put TP up to all his shit for me to make a mistake that was pointed out by TCH  ??? get real - if at the end of this game if I am mafia then I should be banned from playing mafia in the future as that would mean I've talked about how I'm goingto play outside this thread - same with the other 2

.... questioning me on who I am seems like a complete waste - but that's becuase I know who I am .. my task is to figure out who people might be but to also confuse the mafia as to what night action they will take .. pretty obvious I thought

Hammerbro to unvote TP and vote for me is lacking some sense of what's gone on .. why forget about him?  you basically saying he can play his own game and cruise through ??  I'm not saying his is mafia but he sure as hell isn't helping town .. a fact that can't be disputed.  Steven same thing .. he's hasn't done anything that's contributed to the town (and in a way forced me to do the same  :annoyed: ) but the town has no idea what he is and you both want to give him a free ride  ??? ??? ??? ??? what's up with that !

Steven I've posted about what lead me to make the statement about being in every series - and what a mistake that ended up being ..
 your 2nd paragraph is pretty much what I was thinking .. your 3rd paragrah is just saying your not jack .. and your not I am.  Yeah no one else has come out and said it .. and no one will .. I'm not going to mod kill myself that would be an ever bigger mistake .. all i was trying to do for the rest of the town was to say look I'm a town - could be important - lay off me and help find the mafia .. it hasn't backfired on me totally as everyone now knows who I am ..  Also I should clarify an earlier statement of mine part being  Yes after reading the rules I've realised I made a mistake and there is nothing in the rules about role claiming it was that you can't fake a message from the mod .. whilst I realise it makes hammerbro's and Steven's claims plausable I can't do much more to convince anyone.

are you a complete idiot?  you had the opportunity to have a go at me, casting doubt on your claim... and cast doubt into mafia's eyes as to what your role is..  I left if at your doorstep, but you didnt pick it up.. would have helped you out had you thought things through..  :/
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 25, 2008, 05:25:22 AM
no what I got out of your post was you putting doubt against my claim and giving TP a free ride to day 2 .. I'm trying to help the town by hopefully getting them to focus on finding out who the non-townies are - instead of going around in cirlce's

TCH pretty much told everyone I was down to 2 possible roles since I claimed I've been in every series.  As I said I before the mafia will either try to take me down or go at others .. and it'll possibly at there peril .. I'm the only person who has claimed anything so far apart from the usual "i'm 100% townie" which is usually what everyone claims anyway..   if I didn't claim I'd still be high on people list just for all the shit.

Wes you say you never lie .. then answer this .. ARE YOU TOWN ?


hammerbro, Afroboy, Wesmancity, Yorkshire Blue, Masterzulu you need to come out and play .. not just post and say "yeah that looks suss" and disappear  - I think theres at least 2 mafia in this crowd

Hammer I thought you were back?  could have fooled me ..

Mikeblue - gone quiet ?

TCH still don't know ifyour trying to help us or not

StevenRyals my inclination is your on the side of good

Bluestars - all I know is your not mason or mafia with TP .. I think you hate him now as much as I do

laserblue - not sure - but at least your trying to play

Hippo - the king of control.  Never one to post alot and waste alot of words (like me  :D).  Might be good .. but I thought that last game it it got me killed.

Trick Pony - you don't deserve to make it through to day 2 by ignoring you .. it's hard to think your good when you had a pre-meditated strike against me .. at least you didn't deny the claim.   Why couldn't all 3 of us be townies?  65-70% (guestamate) of us are probably townies tool ..


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 25, 2008, 06:27:17 AM

hammerbro, Afroboy, Wesmancity, Yorkshire Blue, Masterzulu you need to come out and play .. not just post and say "yeah that looks suss" and disappear  - I think theres at least 2 mafia in this crowd

Hammer I thought you were back?  could have fooled me ..



I agree MIASG  ;D all of the above need to post their thoughts on everyone to get things moving a bit more, now we have finally gotten some where from the aussie bs  :o

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 25, 2008, 07:08:04 AM
now we have finally gotten some where from the aussie bs  :o
:wall: that you started :fool:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Quig on September 25, 2008, 08:43:34 AM
I never even hinted I was Bauer. If your actually making a full on Bauer claim i'll believe you for now. Because if your telling the truth you'll die tonight bya mafia for being the proberly the best role in the game, or if your lying then Bauer will kick your ass tonight proberly. Unvote: MIASG Hopefully you'll get protected if your telling the truth.

TP/TCH, i think at least 1 of those 2 are mafia. I'm gonna lean towards Vote: TCH
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 25, 2008, 09:03:34 AM
I never even hinted I was Bauer. If your actually making a full on Bauer claim i'll believe you for now. Because if your telling the truth you'll die tonight bya mafia for being the proberly the best role in the game, or if your lying then Bauer will kick your ass tonight proberly. Unvote: MIASG Hopefully you'll get protected if your telling the truth.

TP/TCH, i think at least 1 of those 2 are mafia. I'm gonna lean towards Vote: TCH
no but you questioned I was - meaning you or someone else could be - but we both know your not.  Thanks for coming out to play though.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Quig on September 25, 2008, 11:32:53 AM
I wasn't questioning your claim, just that you were trying to appear to be Bauer to gain trust without actually coming out and comfirming it, therefore maybe not provoking the actual Bauer to counter-claim. Now that you've fully claimed then my point is moot. As i said, a strong role claim like that can normally be taken in good faith so I'm inclined to believe you for now.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 25, 2008, 11:43:02 AM

Hammer I thought you were back?  could have fooled me ..

My last post was on Tuesday night. I missed the whole of Wednesday due to mixture of Uni/Football/Cinema? Hardly a crisis. Not my fault that three pages of relative nonsence and bickering between a certain few

Miasg, you think your claim of Jack Bauer is safe. 24 is a Show that prides itself on its twists and completely fooling its audience, and I'm sure Currieman has incorporated this into this game so there are going to be at least one big shock.. When I mod I always give the mafia safe role names especially in a Theme Game like this to keep them safe in a mass claim. In some I even give them a really key Characters name. Just suggesting that we shouldn't give Miasg an easy ride. For example he's just called me out for 24 hours of inactivity yet Mikeblue, Axeman and Bluestars have not posted in that time either yet he picked on me? Possibly he is linked to one of these players?

In addition TP hasnt responded to my call out of his kissing up to players like Steven and Hippo. Perhaps he hopes that by doing that, because they are the main posters, that they will leave him out of their suspicions.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 25, 2008, 12:31:51 PM
I don't for 1 second think I'm safe Hammer - in fact I now have the biggest target sitting big and bold on my chest... plus that line is hardly calling you out.   And looking down the list my comment to mikeblue is pretty similar to you .. Actually thanks for pointing out axeman I didn't have him down on my list - It looks like I have wes down in the group of a few names and it should have been axeman's name instead of wes as I'd already commented on him.  Bluestars came out and said she'd try to get on but would be busy .. you had "uni/football/cinema?"  which was it?   :bleh:  would have I said anything if we knew in advance  ???  by the way I'm moving house in a few weeks (15th Oct) and could be offline for a day or 2 but hopefully the town would have won before then. :pray:

.. quite frankly I'm waiting for yorkshire blue to reappear and at least answer my post (10 posts back).  I know Hammer what your saying about 24 and your games but you are not the mod on this one so anything is pure speculation .. just like the multiple mafia cells is.  If Currieman has a twist in mind for Jack I can't see it in my character post.  Plus the odds on making the star of 24 a mafia member is like putting Aragon as leader of the nazgul's. 

I wasn't questioning your claim, just that you were trying to appear to be Bauer to gain trust without actually coming out and comfirming it, therefore maybe not provoking the actual Bauer to counter-claim. Now that you've fully claimed then my point is moot. As i said, a strong role claim like that can normally be taken in good faith so I'm inclined to believe you for now.
I know that until we win or I'm dead that people will still have their doubts on if I'm really the true Jack Bauer - and with my previous gameplay I don't blame you at all.  But there's not much else I can do right now.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 25, 2008, 02:07:22 PM
I don't for 1 second think I'm safe Hammer - in fact I now have the biggest target sitting big and bold on my chest... plus that line is hardly calling you out.  Bluestars came out and said she'd try to get on but would be busy .. you had "uni/football/cinema?"  which was it? 

I know Hammer what your saying about 24 and your games but you are not the mod on this one so anything is pure speculation .. just like the multiple mafia cells is.  If Currieman has a twist in mind for Jack I can't see it in my character post.  Plus the odds on making the star of 24 a mafia member is like putting Aragon as leader of the nazgul's. 


It was Uni/Football/Cinema in that order.

I know its just speculating, just commenting that we all shouldn't just assume you really are Jack Bauer. My point was that "Jack Bauer" might be a safe name for Mafia to claim. I actually do believe you probably are Jack Bauer, and that you've just made an error in coming out unless hopefully your immune to nightkills. Just saying we shouldnt take your word for gospel.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 25, 2008, 02:23:11 PM
My last post was on Tuesday night. I missed the whole of Wednesday due to mixture of Uni/Football/Cinema? Hardly a crisis. Not my fault that three pages of relative nonsence and bickering between a certain few

Miasg, you think your claim of Jack Bauer is safe. 24 is a Show that prides itself on its twists and completely fooling its audience, and I'm sure Currieman has incorporated this into this game so there are going to be at least one big shock.. When I mod I always give the mafia safe role names especially in a Theme Game like this to keep them safe in a mass claim. In some I even give them a really key Characters name. Just suggesting that we shouldn't give Miasg an easy ride. For example he's just called me out for 24 hours of inactivity yet Mikeblue, Axeman and Bluestars have not posted in that time either yet he picked on me? Possibly he is linked to one of these players?

In addition TP hasnt responded to my call out of his kissing up to players like Steven and Hippo. Perhaps he hopes that by doing that, because they are the main posters, that they will leave him out of their suspicions.

I agree to a point Sir Hammer, MIASG maybe lying but until proven that he is we should try save him at least until the second day and reaccess it from there. I cant see why anyone could have a problem with that unless your mafia ?

:laugh: your wishing it was you  ::) its just another useless unrelated question which doesnt help with finding mafia, seems to me your posting for the sake of posting and not trying to get anywhere, your one of the main quiet posters Sir Hammer.

What about posting your thoughts on all players so we can se what your thinking ?

and where are the others to respond to the previous posts ?

It was Uni/Football/Cinema in that order.

I know its just speculating, just commenting that we all shouldn't just assume you really are Jack Bauer. My point was that "Jack Bauer" might be a safe name for Mafia to claim. I actually do believe you probably are Jack Bauer, and that you've just made an error in coming out unless hopefully your immune to nightkills. Just saying we shouldnt take your word for gospel.

I see we agree on the posts Sir Hammer after just reading yours...

what does everyone think in regards to saving MIASG ? my question is if we have a investigator or doctor should we save him or investigate him ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 25, 2008, 02:51:50 PM
miasg what is there to answer and its you pointless been in the mafia games how many time have you role claimed it just ruins it
well done tp your seeing there are other players but you always have to mention one the other aussies in your post
if miasg is lying then the person with this role could counter claim

im going to vote trick pony hes gone after miasg form the start and it now looks like miasg is town
if its just because its his workmate then he should go anyway because going after his workmates all the time doesnt help one bit
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 25, 2008, 03:30:38 PM
I agree to a point Sir Hammer, MIASG maybe lying but until proven that he is we should try save him at least until the second day and reaccess it from there. I cant see why anyone could have a problem with that unless your mafia ?

:laugh: your wishing it was you  ::) its just another useless unrelated question which doesnt help with finding mafia, seems to me your posting for the sake of posting and not trying to get anywhere, your one of the main quiet posters Sir Hammer.

What about posting your thoughts on all players so we can se what your thinking ?

and where are the others to respond to the previous posts ?

I see we agree on the posts Sir Hammer after just reading yours...

what does everyone think in regards to saving MIASG ? my question is if we have a investigator or doctor should we save him or investigate him ?

Never direct the investigators or doctors, assuming we even have one since its just pointless. It's better if we just have no idea who the doctor is until preferably the end of the game or he has good information that could help us win.

If you want me to come out with a list of what I think of all players, then I am sorry to dissapoint you, it's just not my style. I was already planning on revealing some of my key suspects, but this early in the game its you that is looking the most scumlike to me right now. What would a list acheive? How am I meant to have opinions on the likes of Axeman, Zulu and the others who have made very guarded posts up until now?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 25, 2008, 04:48:06 PM
im going to vote trick pony hes gone after miasg form the start and it now looks like miasg is town

Forgive me if i'm wrong, but is that not exactly what you've done?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 25, 2008, 05:34:06 PM

Wes you say you never lie .. then answer this .. ARE YOU TOWN ?


hammerbro, Afroboy, Wesmancity, Yorkshire Blue, Masterzulu you need to come out and play .. not just post and say "yeah that looks suss" and disappear  - I think theres at least 2 mafia in this crowd
 

FFS! do you think im simple

Yes i am town! but i would say that anyway so you really wont get to know till i get killed or at the end of the game.
and then you go on to say get in the game and not say yeah that looks suss, what you on about?!?. I have been in the game all along and been posting.

remember you asked me a question and  i answerd it yes/no then you call me for not getting in the game by posting little. THE MIND BOGGLES!! ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 25, 2008, 05:42:46 PM
FFS! do you think im simple

Yes i am town! but i would say that anyway so you really wont get to know till i get killed or at the end of the game.
and then you go on to say get in the game and not say yeah that looks suss, what you on about?!?. I have been in the game all along and been posting.

remember you asked me a question and  i answerd it yes/no then you call me for not getting in the game by posting little. THE MIND BOGGLES!! ???

this is exactly what he's talking about wes..  you posted 104 words on 9 lines and said absolutely nothing..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 25, 2008, 05:49:29 PM
I want to hear from wes, laser, and all of the other quiet people come on guys post a response on your thoughts on all players, not just one from the previous post, as slip ups/ important comments get lost

Now surely only the mafia would find this info good if we all spouted what we think of everything or eveyone. It will not help the town at all. Bit of a slip up on you half maybe?

Unvote TCH, FOS TRICK PONY

wes, laser, and all of the other quiet people Abit lasy from you aswell, just to highlight me and laser.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 25, 2008, 05:51:49 PM
this is exactly what he's talking about wes..  you posted 104 words on 9 lines and said absolutely nothing..


i give up! this is daft
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on September 25, 2008, 06:08:55 PM
Vote count
3 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue, Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony (Bluestars, YorkshireBlue)
1 – TCH (Hammerbro)
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)
1 – Afroboy ( TCH)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 25, 2008, 06:09:58 PM
I want to hear from wes, laser, and all of the other quiet people come on guys post a response on your thoughts on all players, not just one from the previous post, as slip ups/ important comments get lost

What? are you tripping? I think youll find (if you actually took notice of other peoples posts instead of ranting like a madman) that I am not one of the most quiet players ... so why use my name ... I don't see axeman or masterzulus names up there? Infact if you look I had already put two posts on the page when you posted this & my posts have had an effect as you see masterzulu has now posted.

Ther have been 3 posts since I started this... slow typer :blush: but I'm gonna post it now & them read them... If I've anything to add I'll be back on.

I really doubt that all you aussies are innocent so it looks like it's either you or tch ... though I actually thought you where more misguided than evil? so it could be tch & nothing his said or done has made me feel otherwise.
 first of all he jumped in on miasg side when you had  a go at him, if miasg is telling the truth (no one has gone against it yet) then mafia would no he was not one of them thus alighning themselves to a town player.
as well as that when miasg started to give away his role(& I still don't really understand that?) TCH was there to make sure no-one missed it.
there are a couple of other things that make me uneasy about him but I need to read back his posts to make sure.

Masterzulu .. I will leave my vote off you for now as you have posted , I hope this will continue.


 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 25, 2008, 06:12:56 PM
I agree MIASG  ;D all of the above need to post their thoughts on everyone to get things moving a bit more, now we have finally gotten some where from the aussie bs  :o


:laugh: sorry missed this first time dont take much notice tps posts anymore but youve just got to laugh at that tp saying other people need to post there thoughts on everyone :2funny:

Forgive me if i'm wrong, but is that not exactly what you've done?
i didnt really go after him i just voted then said it was stupid tp as gone after him all along and mentioned miasg in nearly everypost

FFS! do you think im simple

Yes i am town! but i would say that anyway so you really wont get to know till i get killed or at the end of the game.
and then you go on to say get in the game and not say yeah that looks suss, what you on about?!?. I have been in the game all along and been posting.

remember you asked me a question and  i answerd it yes/no then you call me for not getting in the game by posting little. THE MIND BOGGLES!! ???
this looks really sus he says he is town but follows that by saying i would say that anyway. i just think thats abit sus

i give up! this is daft
here you just seem to be admiting defeat

afroboy, axeman, masterzulu and bluestars have gone quiet trying to go off the radar
theres been posts since been writing this
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 25, 2008, 06:15:16 PM
i give up! this is daft

that's weak wes...
while i may have only said a few words.. look at your reaction......
ask questions of people wes..  


and laser, I'm with you on TCH..  I think he's evil..  but I simply dont want him or MIASG to die until after TP is gone..  I'm actually cheering for MIASG & TCH to last longer than TP in this game.. maybe that'll fix him for the next game and he'll be more useful  lol

dammit!! let me post!!! 4th time someone else has posted..

bluestars is in a training class yesterday, today and tomorrow, will be back on saturday i assume..


Vote happyaxeman  come out and play...  you're strangely non-existant this game.. while your usually quiet, this is a bit much..  
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 25, 2008, 10:23:36 PM

this looks really sus he says he is town but follows that by saying i would say that anyway. i just think thats abit sushere you just seem to be admiting defeat

Thats just it! if i was mafia i would say i was town anyway. So the question that he asked me was a point less question wasnt it.

Do you agree Yorkshire Blue?

Sorry Steve once again for my pointless post, but i felt i needed to explain my reasons as Yorkshire Blue thought its was stupid for me to say what i did. By the way i have got my FOS at yourself and Bluestars as you seem to be attacking people who are posting less or pointless post, and im sure you have a role with bluestars. She has started off in her typical way which i though was town now shes gone quite (can i say that) and i think she think shes gone unoticed. TCH is still very much in mind of being mafia too. One thing i carnt understand is why have you had to explain to us all that she will be away yesterday, today and tommorow? Surely rules say that the poster has to let us know, not her partner. Are you protecting her?? Just asking questions like you have asked me to. Youre playing the game like X-men which worries me.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 25, 2008, 10:51:22 PM
Hey guys no time to catch up on the reading, been in that training and have to get mophead off to a game tonight and practice. I will try to get on tomorrow if my training does not run over...sorry to be absent...life is busy right now.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 25, 2008, 11:07:07 PM
Out of who's left i think the US contingent seem good so it's in the UK where i believe the evil is lurking. So i'm going to vote Afroboy You are not really contributing and trying to catch a free ride into day 2. Your input to the game is similar to me past games when you had an evil role. So come out and defend yourself.

I see why you have voted for me here. It is because i am the safest and easiest target. Voting for me makes it look like your doing something to help, when really your just tring to look active. You can't think of anything else to comment about but your workmates and want to make it look your the one trying to leave that discussion.

booooooooooooooooooo   you mad the effort to sign on and post..

Why does your vote stick?

Why are you sus of zulu, miasg, tch & axeman?

just because I guess... because you damn well feel like it... 

Hammer – I have given reasons you can look back to read them.

Zulu – Hasn’t posted anything of value to the town so far.

Miasg – I now believe he is town

Axeman – Needs to come on and post more as so far he hasn't contributed much.

I'm not convinced yorkshire is evil like alot of people at the moment. Even though his posts can look sus this is his usual style.

Even though I havn't posted as much as others when I have been on I have been accusing people such as hammer. I wouldn't accuse experienced players like this if i were evil.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 25, 2008, 11:28:32 PM
and laser, I'm with you on TCH..  I think he's evil..  but I simply dont want him or MIASG to die until after TP is gone..  I'm actually cheering for MIASG & TCH to last longer than TP in this game.. maybe that'll fix him for the next game and he'll be more useful  lol
Steve it doesn't bother him if he goes first .. and he's only ever outlasted me once and that was the last game when I got myself killed in hte 1st night phase. 

Wes chill out buddy .. this is only a game and it shouldn't be taken too seriously  8)  at least you don't have an annoying little flea hanging over your shoulder

miasg what is there to answer and its you pointless been in the mafia games how many time have you role claimed it just ruins it
- yeah I did ruin it this time for myself but your response is very weak in my eyes.  deflecting straight back onto me about role claiming .. at least I put down what lead me to it .. what's this now your 5th/6th post?  and you don't think you can answer why you voted for line spacing and such?  vote stays.  I think it's funny your now voting for TP when you seemed to think he was pretty much spot on earlier .. another deflection or mafia trying to un-align himself ? 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 25, 2008, 11:33:34 PM
Hey guys no time to catch up on the reading, been in that training and have to get mophead off to a game tonight and practice. I will try to get on tomorrow if my training does not run over...sorry to be absent...life is busy right now.

funny ha! you come out as soon as i say somthing is sus about you. Very good indeed.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 25, 2008, 11:35:04 PM

Wes chill out buddy .. this is only a game and it shouldn't be taken too seriously  8)

 8) im chiiled man,
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 25, 2008, 11:38:02 PM
What would a list acheive? How am I meant to have opinions on the likes of Axeman, Zulu and the others who have made very guarded posts up until now?

well it depends on what you wrote, post your thoughts on all players so we dont miss anything, and if you cant decide on certain people like those few then post that asking them questions to respond to ... wow this is hard
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 25, 2008, 11:41:05 PM

and laser, I'm with you on TCH..  I think he's evil..  but I simply dont want him or MIASG to die until after TP is gone..  I'm actually cheering for MIASG & TCH to last longer than TP in this game.. maybe that'll fix him for the next game and he'll be more useful  lol


That's nice of you Steve but i think i have only got past the start of Day 2 once !!! They way i post/play just makes people think i'm evil though i've never had an evil role. That's why at least modding i'm there to the end !!

I see why you have voted for me here. It is because i am the safest and easiest target. Voting for me makes it look like your doing something to help, when really your just tring to look active. You can't think of anything else to comment about but your workmates and want to make it look your the one trying to leave that discussion.

I wouldn't say you were the safest and easiest. Hammersbro, the Axeman, Mzulu and Mike could be included.  Trying to say i am trying to be active is a joke, posting is activity and i've done plenty of it unlike yourself.

Good to see Laser attack me after i voted for you too !!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 26, 2008, 12:02:07 AM
... wow this is hard
  why because you are finally starting to leave us alone ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 26, 2008, 12:04:17 AM
Masterzulu can you come out of hiding and try to play like a townie please?  I'm starting to assume that you might just be mafia and waiting until the night phase to talk to your buddies about how you should be playing .. FOS MASTERZULU
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 26, 2008, 12:06:23 AM
  why because you are finally starting to leave us alone ?

I see you cant  :clown:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 26, 2008, 12:13:39 AM
miasg what is there to answer and its you pointless been in the mafia games how many time have you role claimed it just ruins it
well done tp your seeing there are other players but you always have to mention one the other aussies in your post
if miasg is lying then the person with this role could counter claim

im going to vote trick pony hes gone after miasg form the start and it now looks like miasg is town
if its just because its his workmate then he should go anyway because going after his workmates all the time doesnt help one bit

that doesnt make sense YB have you read all of the posts or did you skim and miss half of it  ??? I was sus on those two to get them involved, then MIASG revealed his role ... we now know who miasg is and id rather believe him than lose a townie on day one. If thats all you have why bother ... I see most of your posts taret one person at a time, possibly two. Is that because you know who the other posters before them are  ??? im going to read more into that I bet we can find something
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 26, 2008, 12:15:38 AM
Now surely only the mafia would find this info good if we all spouted what we think of everything or eveyone. It will not help the town at all. Bit of a slip up on you half maybe?

Unvote TCH, FOS TRICK PONY

wes, laser, and all of the other quiet people Abit lasy from you aswell, just to highlight me and laser.

you two have been quiet are you going to deny that ... you cant so dont bother trying
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 26, 2008, 12:19:14 AM
you two have been quiet are you going to deny that ... you cant so dont bother trying


In a word yes!, i have been active so youre wrong. Have i been much use? no steve will vouch for that.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 26, 2008, 12:28:45 AM
I see why you have voted for me here. It is because i am the safest and easiest target.

 :laugh: you really havent been reading whats going on



Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 26, 2008, 12:32:59 AM
I see why you have voted for me here. It is because i am the safest and easiest target. Voting for me makes it look like your doing something to help, when really your just tring to look active. You can't think of anything else to comment about but your workmates and want to make it look your the one trying to leave that discussion.

I cant believe you and everyone else expect's the three of us aussies to ignore each other's posts, hopefully all of you have realised that we post around the same times ever day, so why wouldnt we go for one another  ??? I would expect the same from others players in similar time zones... 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 26, 2008, 12:38:09 AM
Even though I havn't posted as much as others when I have been on I have been accusing people such as hammer. I wouldn't accuse experienced players like this if i were evil.

yeah but why would you bother highlighting that to everyone  ??? this may come in handy later on
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 26, 2008, 12:43:01 AM
funny ha! you come out as soon as i say somthing is sus about you. Very good indeed.

convenient to say the least  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 26, 2008, 12:47:30 AM

In a word yes!, i have been active so youre wrong. Have i been much use? no steve will vouch for that.

was that a slip up here Wes  ??? why mention Steve is he your  >:D leader :blush: 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 26, 2008, 01:37:42 AM
5 posts in a row.  :yawn: Out of the 5 only one has a good point in my opinion

was that a slip up here Wes  ??? why mention Steve is he your  >:D leader :blush: 

Nope .. :yawn:

convenient to say the least  ;)

 :'(

I cant believe you and everyone else expect's the three of us aussies to ignore each other's posts, hopefully all of you have realised that we post around the same times ever day, so why wouldnt we go for one another  ??? I would expect the same from others players in similar time zones... 

 :(

:laugh: you really havent been reading whats going on

chortle



Even though I havn't posted as much as others when I have been on I have been accusing people such as hammer. I wouldn't accuse experienced players like this if i were evil.
yeah but why would you bother highlighting that to everyone  ??? this may come in handy later on

Ahh, we have something. I often think that players that try and blow there own trumpet are doing it for nefarious reasons. FOS:Afroboy. Afroboy, why wouldnt you excuse me? Should accuse anyone if you think they look dodgy despite experience. Just seems like you accused me early on so you could raise this point later.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 03:45:55 AM
funny ha! you come out as soon as i say somthing is sus about you. Very good indeed.

I already told you she was in training wes.. but you thought that was sus that I told you and not her..  even though she didnt have internet access.. seems like you are searching for anything and everything to push suspicion away from yourself..  fairly obvious...  simpleton  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 03:49:00 AM
That's nice of you Steve but i think i have only got past the start of Day 2 once !!! They way i post/play just makes people think i'm evil though i've never had an evil role. That's why at least modding i'm there to the end !!


Pity party there TCH... more sus than you meant it to be I'm sure.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 26, 2008, 04:37:55 AM
not really, just the truth, you said you think i'm evil but i'll expect an apology after i'm gone and once again i am revealed to once again be a member of the town.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 26, 2008, 09:34:33 AM
Ive been quiet I know, but feck me, isnt it obvious ive not been around as Ive not been on my forums full stop? I'm not hiding, as Ive got nothing to hide from.
I travelled to watch that shower of shite the other night, And have ran round like a fucking twat doing chores since. Ive also got back with my missus. lol

Anyway, Reading back through the last posts since i was last on, I am still tempted to vote TP as like i have said previously, the guy is a liability to the town.
My other two suspects who i'm not convinced by are Afro and Wes. Afro sticks out more to me as being suspect, so VOTE AFROBOY

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 26, 2008, 09:44:14 AM
My other two suspects who i'm not convinced by are Afro and Wes. Afro sticks out more to me as being suspect, so VOTE AFROBOY

Is there a reason for this?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 26, 2008, 10:45:20 AM
why?
Because i can?
Its page 15(mainly 1 line useless shit from peeps) and the day needs to start coming to a conclusion?
because i dont know who anybody is, and a gut feeling is as good as it gets on first day?

I see why you have voted for me here. It is because i am the safest and easiest target. Voting for me makes it look like your doing something to help, when really your just tring to look active. You can't think of anything else to comment about but your workmates and want to make it look your the one trying to leave that discussion.

Hammer – I have given reasons you can look back to read them.

Zulu – Hasn’t posted anything of value to the town so far.

Miasg – I now believe he is town

Axeman – Needs to come on and post more as so far he hasn't contributed much.

I'm not convinced yorkshire is evil like alot of people at the moment. Even though his posts can look sus this is his usual style.

Even though I havn't posted as much as others when I have been on I have been accusing people such as hammer. I wouldn't accuse experienced players like this if i were evil.
TP is on my suspect list, and i see he has also voted afro, But why does Afro think he's the safest and Easiest target? surely the easiest target to vote for is Zulu or the person everyone seems to want to vote for in Yorkie?, or indeed any of the other 2 Aussies?

What reasons for voting hammer again? ???

Zulu hasnt contributed anything to town yet? erm Neither has wes or tp! lol

he now thinks Miasg is town? erm yeah, he's role claimed Jack! ::)

I think i might of contributed just as much as Afro has!  ::)

I actually think Yorkie's style has actually changed slightly and is being more aggressive.
his final comment is just shite. you should try at some point to accuse everyone regardless of how experienced at the game they are, wether your mafia or not.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 26, 2008, 01:45:50 PM
you two have been quiet are you going to deny that ... you cant so dont bother trying

Youre just an idiot .. no I have not been quiet ....zulu & axeman have benn quiet or can't you tell the difference d*ck brain. why would you tell blatant lies that everyone can see .. I know you don't have to answer that ... it's because I know the answer .. you are indeed the biggest retard ever FOS TP ... for talking complete & other shite. infact make that VOTE TP cause I & just about everyone else is sick of you being a complete & utter dick  :hammer: :pokey: :death:

 ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 26, 2008, 01:54:20 PM
oh look axemans managed to make a post  :clap:

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 26, 2008, 03:15:41 PM
I already told you she was in training wes.. but you thought that was sus that I told you and not her..  even though she didnt have internet access.. seems like you are searching for anything and everything to push suspicion away from yourself..  fairly obvious...  simpleton  ;)
its funny though steven how wes was saying she is evil with you and not posting then twenty minutes later bluestars posts
fos steven ryals bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 26, 2008, 03:16:46 PM
sorry for two posts in a row but you seem to defending bluestars alot aswell
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on September 26, 2008, 03:27:38 PM
 :laugh: i wont post anymore in arow but mikeblue as gone quiet and he as been posting
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 26, 2008, 03:29:31 PM
miasg what is there to answer and its you pointless been in the mafia games how many time have you role claimed it just ruins it
well done tp your seeing there are other players but you always have to mention one the other aussies in your post
if miasg is lying then the person with this role could counter claim

im going to vote trick pony hes gone after miasg form the start and it now looks like miasg is town
if its just because its his workmate then he should go anyway because going after his workmates all the time doesnt help one bit

Still reading the last few days but this really confirms my vote on Yorky.

Think from what I have been reading that its fairly obvious that MIASG and Trick Pony are town yet he still goes after him with a lame logic.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 03:33:03 PM
its funny though steven how wes was saying she is evil with you and not posting then twenty minutes later bluestars posts

complete fluke..
she was in a training class all day with no access..  it shouldnt be sus if she's truly without access.. 
she's in the class again today for until 12:30, which is about 3 hours or so from now..

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 26, 2008, 03:54:47 PM
Looks like we are finally moving along a little more.

My vote is staying with Yorky for now but Afro and Wes are making me feel uncomfortbale aswell. Far too many pointless posts when they have bothered they have not inspired confidence.

This day is really starting to drag on. I have made my vote and it is staying so I will wait untill there is more voting from people and then we can progress. Day 1 is a nightmare and the sooner we can move along the better I feel.

The only two people I think are town at the moment are TP and Miasg. I have a feeling TCH may well be mafia though.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 04:11:47 PM
TCH
Sir Hammer
Hammerbro
Happy Axeman
Trick Pony
Afroboy
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

all of these players are day one targets in my mind.  I think any of them could be mafia... sadly, I'm sure there are much less than 9 evils..  so we're probably looking at a 25% chance of guessing right. 

yorkshire blue is making more sense than usual and posting more..  a noticable change..
TP... well..  i've already said my piece on that..
Zulu keeps with the busy comments on this and that... but never does anything for the town..
wes with his 'i give up' bit..
axeman because he has no job yet still cant find time to post much in the game  ;)

Maybe we should vote for a day one leader.. someone the town trusts... and let them decide on who to vote for since this is 15 pages ... and still not much chance of the day ending..

I think MIASG is the obvious one to lead the day out as he's already roleclaimed..  anyone else think this is a good idea? or am I being thick?  I think most people agree he's town, more than we know about anyone else..  at least this way we can get things moving as when he puts pressure on someone they will feel more than the usual... it will be his decision alone that puts the gauntlet down..  so they will have to defend themselves cleverly to avoid being lynched..  thoughts?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 26, 2008, 04:44:48 PM
I like that idea for day 1 Steve. Give us a fair chance of getting lucky and getting a mafia.

Doubt the mafia would like that idea though so will be interesting.

I think this is a way to get day 1 over with and the game moving. On day 1 its all pretty much a guess anyway so I will go for that. At the minute it doesn't look like we are going to get a lynch any time soon so I say go for it MIASG and do the town proud with your vote.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 04:48:17 PM
I do believe his role claim so his vote will sway mine..  so that's two, and mike if you're in, that's 3 votes.. 

all we need is 8 to make the lynch..

we must remember though, that mafia will get involved in this so we cant say that those who follow miasg's lead are town.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 26, 2008, 05:02:15 PM
Yeah I know that but I don't think the mafia will be too happy about it when MIASG chooses the god father  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Have to agree to do it before MIASG chooses who to lynch lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 26, 2008, 05:27:06 PM
I do believe his role claim so his vote will sway mine..  so that's two, and mike if you're in, that's 3 votes.. 

all we need is 8 to make the lynch..

we must remember though, that mafia will get involved in this so we cant say that those who follow miasg's lead are town.. 

Don't like this idea at all. Fair enough, Miasgs claim seems legit but its still alot to put the power in one persons hand...
I don't like it when one person trys to manipulate another person like you are trying too, Steven. Possibily your trying to put Miasg in a position where he has to make the decision, and maybe you know that amongst his top suspects (hammerbro, Afroboy, Wesmancity, Yorkshire Blue, Masterzulu, TP) that there isnt a great chance he will pick mafia. Don't like this at all...

From the information we have we don't know whether or not Miasg has any true info on who's who so if he doesnt choose mafia, we'll have no information to go on the next day. Everyone will be able to slip under the rug of "Jack Bauer ordered me to"
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 05:30:37 PM
yes, but when one person has that power, and they call you out as sus.. you are forced into a response.. maybe that's what you are trying to avoid eh?   with one player is given that kind of authority, he can get better answers than all of us combined..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 26, 2008, 05:40:34 PM
yes, but when one person has that power, and they call you out as sus.. you are forced into a response.. maybe that's what you are trying to avoid eh?   with one player is given that kind of authority, he can get better answers than all of us combined..

Although its true that one powerful voice gets more attention that a dozen-odd quieter ones, that doesnt mean its correct. I've got nothing to hide, but I see too much of a risk. The person he picks on is going to be forced to claim on the basis of one persons suspicions. That could led to another key role being outed on the first day...i.e the mafia will be laughing at us since they probably already have Jack Bauer out in the open.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 05:46:39 PM
what's your suggestion hammer? 30 pages of day one? 40??
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 26, 2008, 06:22:34 PM
Steve, i'm sure you're aware that MIASG has already voted for his prime suspect in YB. So what exactly are you discussing? If you want to go along with what MIASG says, do it. Vote. If you don't, you can hardly complain the day's lasting too long. A couple more votes, putting him close to a lynch, will also make him respond to questions - which used to be how the game was played?

Technically, i suppose i'm willing to go along with this "plan" to do as MIASG does, because we've already voted for the same person.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on September 26, 2008, 06:31:33 PM
Vote count
3 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue, Hippo, MiasG)
3 – Trick Pony (Bluestars, YorkshireBlue, Laserblue)
2 – Afroboy (TCH, Axeman)
1 – TCH (Hammerbro)
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch

I may think about a deadline if nobody is lynched in the next few days as day 1 is nearly 2 weeks long and it seems to be going around in circles slightly. I would prefer a normal lynch though so will leave it for a few days before deciding on a deadline. Atleast people are posting though, you should all be able to reach a conclusion eventually
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 26, 2008, 06:47:14 PM
Looks like we are finally moving along a little more.

My vote is staying with Yorky for now but Afro and Wes are making me feel uncomfortbale aswell. Far too many pointless posts when they have bothered they have not inspired confidence.

This day is really starting to drag on. I have made my vote and it is staying so I will wait untill there is more voting from people and then we can progress. Day 1 is a nightmare and the sooner we can move along the better I feel.

The only two people I think are town at the moment are TP and Miasg. I have a feeling TCH may well be mafia though.

This alone put's you on my list of possible mafia, you have clearly read that other posters have come up with me posting nonsence post, and because you dont know what to say you thought of saying it aswell. You are really playing like mafia wondering what to say so you input by nicking some one elses thoughts

Vote Mikeblue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 26, 2008, 06:47:59 PM
complete fluke..
she was in a training class all day with no access..  it shouldnt be sus if she's truly without access.. 
she's in the class again today for until 12:30, which is about 3 hours or so from now..



Can she not speak for her self?, ffs have i just asked you a question?? :-X
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 26, 2008, 06:49:39 PM

wes with his 'i give up' bit..


you said i was sus before that, so thats not a good enough for me. Please answer me and the rest of the town why i am a sus?? please we are all interested
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 26, 2008, 07:06:33 PM
unvote TP I made that vote cause he is being annoying not because I really suspect him ....

I think that things have come to a better stage now ... things are becoming more clear peeps are taking sides now....

heres the peeps I strongley suspect & why & thiose I think could be innocent ...


Here goes....

Like I said out of the aussies I find TCH more suspicious

Reasons

I think he may of dropped a bollok in jumping in straight away & defending miasg from TP ... at that stage only the mafia would know who was not with them.. by jumping in & protecting Miasg TCH could be alighning himself to a townie

When miasg was saying his character was in every series it was TCH who pronounced him as JB to everyone

When he knew that going after the aussie was up he switched to Afroboy the youngest player on the board.


Axeman quiet at first then a flurry of activity latched on to tch vote for afro & his reasons for voting for him when challenged by hippo ... gut instinct ??? please ??? also his posting style so far is to much like last game when he was evil not not like when he is innocent.

I think afro is innocent .. ( I don't know this) but he is playing to much likehis normal style .. I played my first game with him & every game since , so I should be able to tell... he is always fairly quiet on the first day as usual & has been challenging people .. yes like hammer who a lot of peeps would shy away from at this stage

I also agree that yorks does not look particulaly mafia in this game once again yorks played his first when I did & everyone since.

This leads me to wonder about Mike blue he just seems to be carrying this yorkshire vendetta over from the last game when yorks has posted about & voted other people ... yes yorks style always makes him a target but he is infact getting more involved in this game when he's evil he refuses to enter the game

Hamer I'm not sure about... again like axeman hardly posted on first few actual days .... he started of by indirectly bigging himself up .. remember I don''t see why peeps think I so good.. or words to that effect, then in his later posts says how he finds it sus when people blow there own trumpet .. so which is it ? he also had an fos for afro is this a coincidence that he & the other people who I suspect most strongley all pick on the same player? maybe ? or maybe not?

other peeps who look innocent at this stage anyway are ..

miasg, steve, hippo 

don't knows

Tp may not be evil as he is running around like a madman attracting attention to himself?

Bluestars her first few posts seemed back to her oldsytle .... innocent?

wes .. just don't know

masterzulu it's impossible as he hasn't posted enough .. 2 posts I think.. & I don't know his style as this is only his second game .... it could be he is not posted because he is scared of giving himself away ... IF YOUR TOWN YOU NEED TO GET ON THE BOARD ACTUALLY SAY SOMETHING so you can be eliminated from the list

Hammerbro .. don't know?

if I've miised anybody sorry I'll get back to it but I'm of to pick up a take-away now

If I am wrong about anybody I suspect please come on & tell me why I don't want to vote for someone that's not evil.


someones posted since i started but my wife is shouting at me to pick up the take away :o so I'll read them later.


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 07:45:40 PM
you said i was sus before that, so thats not a good enough for me. Please answer me and the rest of the town why i am a sus?? please we are all interested

It's all within this thread... search and ye shall find.  I'm not into repeating myself for those who dont read every post.

Can she not speak for her self?, ffs have i just asked you a question?? :-X


I'm positive that she can.. you're fishing pretty hard here wesley..  I dont think that NOT HAVING ACCESS allows one the opportunity to ACCESS the forum...  get the correlation there?  I think bluestars shouldnt be considered sus for not posting if she really has no access right?  maybe we should just lynch her and see, right wes?  yea.. she's most certainly evil because she's been in a training class for the new software that her job requires...  great detective work wes... well done..  lol 

any other questions?


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 07:49:22 PM
Steve, i'm sure you're aware that MIASG has already voted for his prime suspect in YB. So what exactly are you discussing? If you want to go along with what MIASG says, do it. Vote. If you don't, you can hardly complain the day's lasting too long. A couple more votes, putting him close to a lynch, will also make him respond to questions - which used to be how the game was played?

Technically, i suppose i'm willing to go along with this "plan" to do as MIASG does, because we've already voted for the same person.


no hippo..  obviously it would be just him saying "lets lynch yorkshire"... it would be a common knowledge that MIASG has this backing, and his inquests would then be much more powerful..  everyone is pulling in different directions..  it's funny though how WES has posted quite a bit but not mentioned this idea... Hammer is opposed, but has his reasons.. wesley has completely ignored the fact that this is out there..  could be a hint as to what team he's playing for.....
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 26, 2008, 07:52:52 PM
what about my post  >:( say something comment on it
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 08:15:33 PM
I also agree that yorks does not look particulaly mafia in this game once again yorks played his first when I did & everyone since.

This leads me to wonder about Mike blue he just seems to be carrying this yorkshire vendetta over from the last game when yorks has posted about & voted other people ... yes yorks style always makes him a target but he is infact getting more involved in this game when he's evil he refuses to enter the game

ok laser ok.. geeeezzz...

I think Yorkshireblue looks as sus as usual..  the fact is he's playing different than HE EVER HAS BEFORE.. not just when he's evil.. but different from his play style from ALL previous games..  he's more involved... is it because he's got a great role?  who knows.. but I find him sus..

mikeblue..  not sure about what you're saying here.. but i see why we differe because you dont find Yorkshire sus and i do..  so..  I guess that settles that eh....

Axeman quiet at first then a flurry of activity latched on to tch vote for afro & his reasons for voting for him when challenged by hippo ... gut instinct ??? please ??? also his posting style so far is to much like last game when he was evil not not like when he is innocent.

Hamer I'm not sure about... again like axeman hardly posted on first few actual days .... he started of by indirectly bigging himself up .. remember I don''t see why peeps think I so good.. or words to that effect, then in his later posts says how he finds it sus when people blow there own trumpet .. so which is it ? he also had an fos for afro is this a coincidence that he & the other people who I suspect most strongley all pick on the same player? maybe ? or maybe not?

This may be a better pick than you expected it to be..   I'm talking about the comparrison between the two players..  they are playing similarly... and have largely stayed completely out of each others way..  hammer seems to just be in a "response" mode.. where he answers things that are directed at him... while axeman is the same with the added dynamic of posting random gut feeling votes....
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 26, 2008, 09:11:05 PM
ok thankyou .... anybody else  ???

I hear what your saying about yorky slightly different style seems to me he's a least trying to get more involved sometimes misguided but on the whole leaning towards town I'd say.. but certainly not the most sus pect player on the board & not the most dangerous... it's those players we need to pick out?

like I said I welome any input on this (even from TP :laugh:)

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 26, 2008, 09:16:21 PM
oh about your idea steve

 Usually when someone comes out this early they tend to be telling the truth..

so so far the probability is that miasg is telling the truth

so yes your idea has merit but mafia can hide behind it, one of the things to go off on day two is who voted who?

also how do we know miasg will pick wisley (no offence miasg) cause already I have stated I don't think yb should be the first to go.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 09:45:45 PM
but certainly not the most sus pect player on the board & not the most dangerous... it's those players we need to pick out?

how do you know who's the most dangerous?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 09:47:46 PM
just an observation, but laser, you seem to be pointing out quite a bit about who you think is innocent..  more than anyone else that I can see..  just an observation..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 26, 2008, 09:55:41 PM
It's all within this thread... search and ye shall find.  I'm not into repeating myself for those who dont read every post.


I'm positive that she can.. you're fishing pretty hard here wesley..  I dont think that NOT HAVING ACCESS allows one the opportunity to ACCESS the forum...  get the correlation there?  I think bluestars shouldnt be considered sus for not posting if she really has no access right?  maybe we should just lynch her and see, right wes?  yea.. she's most certainly evil because she's been in a training class for the new software that her job requires...  great detective work wes... well done..  lol 

any other questions?




pointless post if i ever read one zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZzz zzzzzzzz. And you call me.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 26, 2008, 09:57:57 PM
  maybe we should just lynch her and see, right wes?  yea.. she's most certainly evil because she's been in a training class for the new software that her job requires...  great detective work wes... well done..  lol 

any other questions?




you really are protecting her, why is this? do you know her role? you seem to do.  ::)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 26, 2008, 09:59:13 PM
i already said who I thought looked evil & would like some feedback on the post from other players ... I was merley debating the pros & cons of your idea

why I say that some players are more dangerous to the town & some not is that with his two to four liners yorks is hardly going to sway the voting of many people he has a style & sticks to it in the main part it makes it hard to see what side he is on  ... there are others you for instance , axeman hippo hammer maybe miasg & myself who post longer & try to effect the way the game is played thats what I'm saying I may be wrong but that's what I'm thinking

like I said I'm not dismising the idea straight off I thought a deadline of some sort was a good idea but can see a lot of holes in this plan it first glance.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 10:02:21 PM
pointless post if i ever read one zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZzz zzzzzzzz. And you call me.

IT WAS ENTIRELY POINTLESS...   had you read properly you would have never had to post it.. therefore I would have never had to respond..  

and why did you respond to the same post twice? makes no sense..  it's as if you didnt read the whole thing (big suprise) before responding..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 26, 2008, 10:13:03 PM
you really are protecting her, why is this? do you know her role? you seem to do.  ::)


oh come on seriously wes..  instead of people saying "where's bluestars" "she'shiding" "anyone know if bluesatars is away"  I simply said that she had no access..

After a day or so of Hammer being without access everyone was asking if Hammerbro knew anything and he didnt..  so next time, if it will make you happy, I will wait for people to ask, then tell them that she's in a training class..  ok? 

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 27, 2008, 03:52:06 AM
TP is on my suspect list, and i see he has also voted afro, But why does Afro think he's the safest and Easiest target? surely the easiest target to vote for is Zulu or the person everyone seems to want to vote for in Yorkie?, or indeed any of the other 2 Aussies?


Happy Axeman where have I voted afro  ??? FOS Happy Axeman for skim reading and being mafia
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 27, 2008, 03:55:35 AM
Youre just an idiot .. no I have not been quiet ....zulu & axeman have benn quiet or can't you tell the difference d*ck brain. why would you tell blatant lies that everyone can see .. I know you don't have to answer that ... it's because I know the answer .. you are indeed the biggest retard ever FOS TP ... for talking complete & other shite. infact make that VOTE TP cause I & just about everyone else is sick of you being a complete & utter dick  :hammer: :pokey: :death:

 ;)

starting to crack mafioso  ??? laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 27, 2008, 03:59:03 AM
Still reading the last few days but this really confirms my vote on Yorky.

Think from what I have been reading that its fairly obvious that MIASG and Trick Pony are town yet he still goes after him with a lame logic.

yeah hes a fool, all i can say is a real townie wouldnt vote for a townie on day one, especailly since MIASG and myself are so obvious to be town, however sad that may be.  FOS laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 27, 2008, 04:09:06 AM
It's all within this thread... search and ye shall find.  I'm not into repeating myself for those who dont read every post.


I'm positive that she can.. you're fishing pretty hard here wesley..  I dont think that NOT HAVING ACCESS allows one the opportunity to ACCESS the forum...  get the correlation there?  I think bluestars shouldnt be considered sus for not posting if she really has no access right?  maybe we should just lynch her and see, right wes?  yea.. she's most certainly evil because she's been in a training class for the new software that her job requires...  great detective work wes... well done..  lol 

any other questions?


I suggest we leave bluestars until she can defend herself wes ... we already have a few main suspects to lynch anyway including YB and TCH, either one is good for the town
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 27, 2008, 04:11:08 AM
O and RIP MIASG's NRL football team who just ended a year on a 28-0 thrashing... i actually feel for the poor fella
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 27, 2008, 08:22:53 AM
 

and why did you respond to the same post twice? makes no sense..  it's as if you didnt read the whole thing (big suprise) before responding..

All that shows is that i am reading everything word for word, wasnt that what you said i wasn't doing in previous posts?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 27, 2008, 09:37:20 AM
Hammer I'm not sure about... again like axeman hardly posted on first few actual days .... he started of by indirectly bigging himself up .. remember I don''t see why peeps think I so good.. or words to that effect, then in his later posts says how he finds it sus when people blow there own trumpet .. so which is it ? he also had an fos for afro is this a coincidence that he & the other people who I suspect most strongley all pick on the same player? maybe ? or maybe not?

Here's me "bigging myself up"!

Quote from: me
Also I love how people always say I'm a good player at this, when to my memory i've never done anything decent in the whole history of Axeman mafia aside from my valiant attempts to set up some rules in the kingmaker game, and my ultimately wrong idea that Bluestars had made some freudian slip in a game.

How is this bigging myself up? You've took it in an entirely different context. When I said Afroboy was bigging himself up this was the quote..

Even though I havn't posted as much as others when I have been on I have been accusing people such as hammer. I wouldn't accuse experienced players like this if i were evil.

My point was that this could just looks like it was a strategy always to jump on my first post, excuse me, vote me, then come out with this excuse for being a good guy because mafia wouldn't accuse experienced players.

FOS:Laserblue
for clearly trying to spin my thoughts round, about 10 pages after they were originally posted in the hopes that people will just believe what he says. Also Laserblue, people who post just a line every page as opposed to a long post are even more dangerous to the town since they can easily slip by unnoticed.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 27, 2008, 09:38:32 AM
excuse me,

ahem, that should clearly say accuse me
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 27, 2008, 09:38:52 AM
I think MIASG is the obvious one to lead the day out as he's already roleclaimed..  anyone else think this is a good idea? or am I being thick?  I think most people agree he's town, more than we know about anyone else..  at least this way we can get things moving as when he puts pressure on someone they will feel more than the usual... it will be his decision alone that puts the gauntlet down..  so they will have to defend themselves cleverly to avoid being lynched..  thoughts?
I haven't read past this post so I don't know what's been said .. as I said before I have no idea who else is a townie with me so my guess right now is as good as any other townies.  My vote will remain on yorkshire blue because he just started off so slow and erratic and now is trying to play more - TP was playing shit and you keep defending him and questioning me even though I said I was Jack.    You seem to me to be the most likely.  
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 27, 2008, 09:55:08 AM
OK I've read on .. I find it strange that Steven and Mikeblue say they are behind me but didn't actually follow my current vote ..

It also means that basically I'm the only one playing and mafia can hide ..

they could be mafia knowing I'm currently voting for a non-mafia player

Wes just seems to be fixated on Bluestars .. a bit like TP on me .. and steve I think you are defending her too much - appreciate the reminder about training but the rest is just protecting your out of thread partner.. and you also didn't have her in your suspect list.  why is that please ?

Mikeblue - glad your happy the game is progressing - but I don't think you've done anything to help that.


If I wanted to lynch someone for no reason but to end the day then it'd be TP .. but that's personal and silly .. it might also be masterzulu for not being around. 

I suggest as sort of appointed town leader that if currieman permits then maybe set a deadline in 5 days.  Everyone's vote should go to who they think - not what I think. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 27, 2008, 10:37:59 AM
what's your suggestion hammer? 30 pages of day one? 40??

Yes, if it means a mafia lynch or a day where on day two we have loads of information compared to a day where Miasg picked someone.
Now Miasg himself has come out against this idea then surely you've got to drop it?

OK I've read on .. I find it strange that Steven and Mikeblue say they are behind me but didn't actually follow my current vote ..

It also means that basically I'm the only one playing and mafia can hide ..

they could be mafia knowing I'm currently voting for a non-mafia player

I agree completely and mentioned it quite a few posts ago. One theory of mine is that Yorkshire could be town, and Steven is trying to rush a bandwagon lynch on him, using you as the fall guy because when Yorkshire turns up town, Steven can't be blamed because it was your choice. We go into Day Two with Yorkshire dead, probably you as well and then we have no information and two townies dead. Steven is a very smart player and this sort of trick could be up his street..just a theory for now though. enough to

FOS:Stevenryals
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 27, 2008, 12:52:49 PM
OK I've read on .. I find it strange that Steven and Mikeblue say they are behind me but didn't actually follow my current vote ..

It also means that basically I'm the only one playing and mafia can hide ..

they could be mafia knowing I'm currently voting for a non-mafia player

Wes just seems to be fixated on Bluestars .. a bit like TP on me .. and steve I think you are defending her too much - appreciate the reminder about training but the rest is just protecting your out of thread partner.. and you also didn't have her in your suspect list.  why is that please ?

Mikeblue - glad your happy the game is progressing - but I don't think you've done anything to help that.


If I wanted to lynch someone for no reason but to end the day then it'd be TP .. but that's personal and silly .. it might also be masterzulu for not being around. 

I suggest as sort of appointed town leader that if currieman permits then maybe set a deadline in 5 days.  Everyone's vote should go to who they think - not what I think. 

I have voted for Yorkshireblue and given my reasons.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 27, 2008, 12:58:34 PM
sorry my fault - yes you had already voted for him.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 27, 2008, 01:05:24 PM
This is my first chance to post since my last yesterday. Unvote Hammer, as he has started to do more i feel less and less suspisious about him.

Bluestars and Stevenryals to me look like they could be in cahoots, no accusations of each other and a bit of covering. Bluestars is acting like shes trying to be her usual self but isn't

:laugh: you really havent been reading whats going on
I have, what I meant was that at the moment in time he did it with all that was going on he might not want to vote for his mafia mates so I was an easy target to spot and have a reason to vote for without causing much trouble.

yeah but why would you bother highlighting that to everyone  ??? this may come in handy later on
Why would it come in handy later on? I was simply trying to tell you why i am innocent.

My other two suspects who i'm not convinced by are Afro and Wes. Afro sticks out more to me as being suspect, so VOTE AFROBOY
As for being quite I can take them things into consideration but what you have posted so far hasn't been of much good, you comment on me not posting anything of help.... You are so hypocritical.

TP is on my suspect list, and i see he has also voted afro, But why does Afro think he's the safest and Easiest target? surely the easiest target to vote for is Zulu or the person everyone seems to want to vote for in Yorkie?, or indeed any of the other 2 Aussies?

What reasons for voting hammer again? ???

Zulu hasnt contributed anything to town yet? erm Neither has wes or tp! lol

he now thinks Miasg is town? erm yeah, he's role claimed Jack! ::)

I think i might of contributed just as much as Afro has!  ::)

The first part of the post i already explained. If you actually look at this post i am answering a question from stevenryals, thats why i only put them people. Just because I have commented on these doesn't mean i don't have other suspicions. As for the miasg comment, if you look back, i say i am still suspisious AFTER he role claims, that is why i put that! And then you saying TP has voted for me ??? WAKE UP..... LOOK AROUND..... HE HASN’T VOTED FOR ME!

Maybe we should vote for a day one leader.. someone the town trusts... and let them decide on who to vote for since this is 15 pages ... and still not much chance of the day ending..

I think MIASG is the obvious one to lead the day out as he's already roleclaimed..  anyone else think this is a good idea? or am I being thick?  I think most people agree he's town, more than we know about anyone else..  at least this way we can get things moving as when he puts pressure on someone they will feel more than the usual... it will be his decision alone that puts the gauntlet down..  so they will have to defend themselves cleverly to avoid being lynched..  thoughts?
Anyone who goes for this deserves to be lined up and pelted with eggs. Stevenryals comes up with a great idea to get a town killed. Anyone who can't see this is obviously blind.

I like that idea for day 1 Steve. Give us a fair chance of getting lucky and getting a mafia.
Only because your either thick or mafia or both and because miasg has his vote on the same guy as you!

My biggest suspects at the moment:

TP: no need to repeat what others have said
Axeman: Posted rubbish in half of his posts, votes for me and refuses to give a reason
Bluestars: Trying to act normal, posted a lot less than usual, possibly cahoots with steve
Stevenryals: Trying to get everyone to vote for YB, protects bluestars, playing a style where he is in control and not much is asked about him.
Mikeblue: Usually contributes more and usually has more of value in his posts, seems very set on one player (YB)
MZulu: Still needs to contribute more

As for my vote.... I'm not going to make it yet but it probably will be one of the people in the list above.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 27, 2008, 01:05:59 PM
Also I disagree I have been posting and helping the game progress.

When I stated that I meant that the Aussie thing had died down and we were talking sense.

Busy at the minute but will make a more thorough post later in the day.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 27, 2008, 01:26:58 PM
I think so far the most conrete place for my vote is going to be on Steveryals because we may be onto something, but I'm going to wait to hear from him first.


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 27, 2008, 01:35:01 PM
oh look axemans managed to make a post  :clap:
???

Axeman quiet at first then a flurry of activity latched on to tch vote for afro & his reasons for voting for him when challenged by hippo ... gut instinct ??? please ??? also his posting style so far is to much like last game when he was evil not not like when he is innocent.
challenged by hippo? I was online so replied like i normaly would, simple as.
I had no posting style last game, I wasnt around enough to make an impact, I was around less last game than this game, so how are they the same?
Whatever mood i'm in, i post in that 'style'.

why I say that some players are more dangerous to the town & some not is that with his two to four liners yorks is hardly going to sway the voting of many people he has a style & sticks to it in the main part it makes it hard to see what side he is on  ... there are others you for instance , axeman hippo hammer maybe miasg & myself who post longer & try to effect the way the game is played thats what I'm saying I may be wrong but that's what I'm thinking
sorry, I thought you said I havent been posting? ???

I dont think that NOT HAVING ACCESS allows one the opportunity to ACCESS the forum...  get the correlation there?  I think bluestars shouldnt be considered sus for not posting if she really has no access right?  maybe we should just lynch her and see, right wes?  yea.. she's most certainly evil because she's been in a training class for the new software that her job requires...  great detective work wes... well done..  lol  
so the same could be said of me. Not going into my personal life, but lets just say i'm not having much chance to have internet access.

This may be a better pick than you expected it to be..   I'm talking about the comparrison between the two players..  they are playing similarly... and have largely stayed completely out of each others way..  hammer seems to just be in a "response" mode.. where he answers things that are directed at him... while axeman is the same with the added dynamic of posting random gut feeling votes....
oh right, cause we have both not had much time? and how have we stayed out of each others way? I have said i agree with hammers posts so far. how is that staying out of each others way?

What i find frustrating about being able to read stuff sporadically is that as your reading through, you spot things, then later on down the line you see someone has spotted the same stuff. So sometimes its best not to bring it up yourself otherwise you get accused of simply using everyone elses ideas...
and on this last page(17).. lots of views and suspicions are the same... I agree with TP, MIASG and DerHammer... and afroboy!! being rushed I got muddled up i Thought TP had voted afro, my mistake. But I wanted a response from Afro and to see the reaction of someone else, and in the main part i have got it...

Now, the two people I really do see forming a partnership is StevenRyals and LaserBlue.
Stevens request for us to follow one persons vote is just absolute shite, and a sure way for Mafia to avoid a lynch.

so Heads for StevenRyals, Tails for Laserblue....

Sorry pal, Tails it is.

Unvote Afroboy, Vote Laserblue for lots of reason pointed out on page 17 and before by lots of peeps!
but if enough peeps are happy for StevenRyals to be lynched instead then I will change to him.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 27, 2008, 02:18:13 PM
???
.
sorry, I thought you said I havent been posting? ???


twisting my words you know full well what i'm talking about ... it's that when you do post in games you make long posts &try to influence other peoples games as opposed to someone like yorks who's style is short 1 or 2 liners that work for him but have much less influence on people.... anybody reading my post would no I was talking about peoples styles not how much they have posted in this particular game... you no what I was talking about so why take it out of context .. makes me wonder...



Now, the two people I really do see forming a partnership is StevenRyals and LaserBlue.
Stevens request for us to follow one persons vote is just absolute shite, and a sure way for Mafia to avoid a lynch.

sorry but this is the biggest shite ever written on mafia ... no one will be taken in by it..... .. this really is lazy stuff ... truth is in the last couple of pages or so me & steve have both disagreed on yorkshire ... I think he's town .. steve thinks he's evil ... we hwve also diagreed on his plan to end day one ...
I have already come out & said it won't work & said why .. way before you as well ... so how is that agreeing with him ... it was mikeblue who thought it was a good idea.

This is nothing more than a tit for tat vote ..... because i pointed you out as evil.. admit it.

FOS axeman

I may have been a liitle hasty on hammer who looks like he's playing a pro town roll.

I am still suspicious of mikeblue  my reasons are on my post a couple of pages back & him thinking steves plan was a good one only re-enforceces this

I am also still sus picious of tch again I give my reasons a few pages ago & who seems to be staying out of the way

Steves plan for ending the day is a bit sus & he has not challenged bluestars at all this game which is unusual for him






Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 27, 2008, 02:22:45 PM
I take it that was Laser posting lol.

I said it was a good idea because we are not getting anywhere and I want this fucking day to end!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 27, 2008, 02:36:19 PM
Sorry that last post was meant to be by me and it should look like this:
???
sorry, I thought you said I havent been posting? ???
twisting my words you know full well what i'm talking about ... it's that when you do post in games you make long posts &try to influence other peoples games as opposed to someone like yorks who's style is short 1 or 2 liners that work for him but have much less influence on people.... anybody reading my post would no I was talking about peoples styles not how much they have posted in this particular game... you no what I was talking about so why take it out of context .. makes me wonder...

Now, the two people I really do see forming a partnership is StevenRyals and LaserBlue.
Stevens request for us to follow one persons vote is just absolute shite, and a sure way for Mafia to avoid a lynch.
sorry but this is the biggest shite ever written on mafia ... no one will be taken in by it..... .. this really is lazy stuff ... truth is in the last couple of pages or so me & steve have both disagreed on yorkshire ... I think he's town .. steve thinks he's evil ... we hwve also diagreed on his plan to end day one ...
I have already come out & said it won't work & said why .. way before you as well ... so how is that agreeing with him ... it was mikeblue who thought it was a good idea.

This is nothing more than a tit for tat vote ..... because i pointed you out as evil.. admit it.

FOS axeman

I may have been a liitle hasty on hammer who looks like he's playing a pro town roll.

I am still suspicious of mikeblue  my reasons are on my post a couple of pages back & him thinking steves plan was a good one only re-enforceces this

I am also still suspicious of tch again I give my reasons a few pages ago & who seems to be staying out of the way

Steves plan for ending the day is a bit sus & he has not challenged bluestars at all this game which is unusual for him
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 27, 2008, 02:39:12 PM
I take it that was Laser posting lol.

I said it was a good idea because we are not getting anywhere and I want this fucking day to end!
yeah, and its all fucked up, and he is calling me lazy? :2funny:
he has jumped straight at me from the accusation without thinking. maybe I really have hit a nerve? I wouldnt mind, but I said i would change my vote if required. I always change my voting, its the ONLY way to play these games.  ::)

Voting is the only way you can get a decent reaction. Fosing people dont mean jack shit to me.

@mikeblue, the day should take as long as it takes. Bleeting on about how it is boring is pointless, cause its not. VOTE people, and it becomes fun with reactions.
you read a plethora of more suspicious posts than your reasons for voting Yorkie, yet you refuse to change your vote, and you say you dont have a grudge against him? you hound the poor guy everygame.  :laugh:
Maybe laser is right, and your more of a team with Stevenryals?  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 27, 2008, 02:56:16 PM
I'm quite content with there not being a deadline as yet because this day has really got going and is actually very interesting. Only when it starts to go boring and uninteresting should we stop this day at this moment in time.

and on this last page(17).. lots of views and suspicions are the same... I agree with TP, MIASG and DerHammer... and afroboy!! being rushed I got muddled up i Thought TP had voted afro, my mistake. But I wanted a response from Afro and to see the reaction of someone else, and in the main part i have got it...
Axeman: Fair enough on the TP voting for me point. I'm still suspisious but i'm not going to vote axeman because at the moment with the pressure your putting on I still think you could well be town. The only thing is your pressure's on the wrong people!!

I am on the edge of voting for one of four but i'm going to wait to see what they have to say
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 27, 2008, 03:03:50 PM
yeah, and its all fucked up, and he is calling me lazy? :2funny:
he has jumped straight at me from the accusation without thinking. maybe I really have hit a nerve? I wouldnt mind, but I said i would change my vote if required. I always change my voting, its the ONLY way to play these games.  ::)

Voting is the only way you can get a decent reaction. Fosing people dont mean jack shit to me.

@mikeblue, the day should take as long as it takes. Bleeting on about how it is boring is pointless, cause its not. VOTE people, and it becomes fun with reactions.
you read a plethora of more suspicious posts than your reasons for voting Yorkie, yet you refuse to change your vote, and you say you dont have a grudge against him? you hound the poor guy everygame.  :laugh:
Maybe laser is right, and your more of a team with Stevenryals?  ???

Hold on.

I had a thing with him last game and that was it. I have voted him for valid reasons this game nothing to do with the last game. I have voted him and stuck by it all game so what I should change cause you tell me to???

OK the unvote Yorkshireblue and vote Happy Axeman

I don't like the way you are playing!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 27, 2008, 03:12:30 PM
The only thing is your pressure's on the wrong people!!
how do you know its on the wrong people? you shouldnt unless your part of a team. I dont know anybodys Alignment so I can only call it as i see it.
in fact how do i know your actualy afroboy?  lol  ;)

Hold on.

I had a thing with him last game and that was it. I have voted him for valid reasons this game nothing to do with the last game. I have voted him and stuck by it all game so what I should change cause you tell me to???

OK the unvote Yorkshireblue and vote Happy Axeman

I don't like the way you are playing!
awww, bless him the confused little mite. Thats well funny.  :laugh:
no, you miss the points i was trying to make. You can always revert your Vote back to Yorkie, but Voting different peeps is the only way to keep active. if your just going to come on and say, oh well, this is boring, my vote is still on "whoever", then theres no point playing. if your going to say why your still voting someone, then at least enforce it with WHY your still voting them with new shit that enhances your opinion.  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 27, 2008, 03:20:08 PM
Voting Happy for trying to sway my vote!  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 27, 2008, 03:26:03 PM
Voting Happy for trying to sway my vote!  ;)
I didnt mean why you are voting me, am not arsed about that. I meant if you persist with voting someone after another 10+ pages of events, then at least say why you are not changing vote. dont just come on and say its boring and my vote is staying. I'd rather you didnt post.

NOTE TO ALL SINGLE LINE CONSEQUTIVE POST PLAYERS: there is a quick reply box at the bottom, why dont people start writing there post in there, insert quotes, then copy to clipboard, move onto next page, past it into the quick reply box, add your new shit... then when your content with catching up with everthing, press Preview. then edit your post... I hate single line posts one after the other by one person. as i'm sure lots of other peeps do.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 27, 2008, 03:30:18 PM
I didnt mean why you are voting me, am not arsed about that. I meant if you persist with voting someone after another 10+ pages of events, then at least say why you are not changing vote. dont just come on and say its boring and my vote is staying. I'd rather you didnt post.

NOTE TO ALL SINGLE LINE CONSEQUTIVE POST PLAYERS: there is a quick reply box at the bottom, why dont people start writing there post in there, insert quotes, then copy to clipboard, move onto next page, past it into the quick reply box, add your new shit... then when your content with catching up with everthing, press Preview. then edit your post... I hate single line posts one after the other by one person. as i'm sure lots of other peeps do.

Where is quick reply???

Clipboard......errr r what is this???

Not too smart with computers....can you tell???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 27, 2008, 03:40:08 PM
If you cant see it at the bottom of the posts screen, you may need to enable it via your profile...

click 'profile' at top menu.
click 'Look and Layout Prefrences' from side menu.
find the quick reply option and select 'show, on by default'.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 27, 2008, 03:48:13 PM
Right got that and clipboard???

That should come in handy as I could never put in quotes from multiple pages before.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 27, 2008, 06:20:30 PM
Right got that and clipboard???

Me to  :D

how long have I been on here & didn't know about it :blush:

I here what you are saying axeman when you say voting is the only way to really push people & to bring the day to an end

 since I stated who I was sus of a few pages ago hammer & axeman have made pretty feasible posts so I'm not so sure of them being evil as I was then

I still suspect TCH & Mike for the same reasons as I did then but don't know which to vote for though


as mike has been on the board & at least put himself up there to be shot at I'm going to vote TCH if someone else stands out more or tch comes on & says something to make me change my mind then I will change it ..

unless he suddenly starts playing I'd like to see masterzulu removed from the gameit it is possible

I also think it's impossible to tell anything about hammerbro through his lack of imput ..


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 27, 2008, 09:03:21 PM
If you cant see it at the bottom of the posts screen, you may need to enable it via your profile...

click 'profile' at top menu.
click 'Look and Layout Prefrences' from side menu.
find the quick reply option and select 'show, on by default'.

cheers happy, never new i could do this.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 27, 2008, 09:04:26 PM
Could we have a vote count currie please :)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 28, 2008, 10:34:57 AM
but Voting different peeps is the only way to keep active. if your just going to come on and say, oh well, this is boring, my vote is still on "whoever", then theres no point playing. if your going to say why your still voting someone, then at least enforce it with WHY your still voting them with new shit that enhances your opinion.  ;)

to a degree I agree but I'm not likely to change my vote because I see no point.  I can still put pressure on others with out changing my vote.    Also I think it's funny that Mike wants the day to end then takes his vote off the leader .. funny stuff indeed. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 28, 2008, 10:36:31 AM
I didnt mean why you are voting me, am not arsed about that. I meant if you persist with voting someone after another 10+ pages of events, then at least say why you are not changing vote. dont just come on and say its boring and my vote is staying. I'd rather you didnt post.

NOTE TO ALL SINGLE LINE CONSEQUTIVE POST PLAYERS: there is a quick reply box at the bottom, why dont people start writing there post in there, insert quotes, then copy to clipboard, move onto next page, past it into the quick reply box, add your new shit... then when your content with catching up with everthing, press Preview. then edit your post... I hate single line posts one after the other by one person. as i'm sure lots of other peeps do.
  can we use line spacing ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on September 28, 2008, 11:42:25 AM
Vote count
2 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony (Bluestars, YorkshireBlue)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
2 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals, Mikeblue)
1 – Afroboy (TCH)
1 – Mikeblue (Wesmancity)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch but it looks like I'm gonna have to put a deadline in place soon
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 28, 2008, 02:31:35 PM
UNVOTE HAPPY VOTE MASTERZULU

Hopefully this will encourage him to get on here and start posting.

Have no idea whether he is town or not but normally the mafia have tried to start a band wagon on a non poster now and that does not seem to have happened.....maybe he is with them????

Get on and explain yourself!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 28, 2008, 02:48:51 PM
UNVOTE MIKEBLUE VOTE STEVERYNALS

Dont like the way you have gone quiet, I seem to have put the spot light on you deffending Bluestars and other posters have now picked up on it. You therefore have now decided to stit back for a while and let everone else take over.

Bluestars needs to come on more aswell, she posted very little since the accusations has come out and she needs to start playing the game.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 28, 2008, 03:23:08 PM
UNVOTE MIKEBLUE VOTE STEVERYNALS

Dont like the way you have gone quiet, I seem to have put the spot light on you deffending Bluestars and other posters have now picked up on it. You therefore have now decided to stit back for a while and let everone else take over.

Bluestars needs to come on more aswell, she posted very little since the accusations has come out and she needs to start playing the game.


1) I have remained active in this game every day I have had computer access.
2) When I have known I would be absent I have given notice to the board and specifically said when I felt I would be able to play again.
3) I have also commented on every bit of activity that has been on this board in an effort to give town all the information.
4) Other players have gone completely absent without so much as  prior notice or even a valid excuse and yet somehow I am your focus wes?

Stevenryals informed you of what was already written by me to all of the players if you had read and paid attention...I think it would be obvious that if steven of all people saw me at home with computer access and not playing he'd be calling me out as he has done every game..

I don't need his defending...I did the right thing as a polite player in the game...and all of my posts can be reviewed to prove my point and to prove you either choose to ignore what information I offered about my absence...or are attempting to lie as to get rid of me...


UNVOTE TP


VOTE WES what other reason can you have for refusing to address that I said I would be absent and then still expect me to respond? maybe an already existing desire to get rid of me as a player despite having no point? You could review what I've said....you could have said I was acting suspicious in my posting...but instead you go for me for being absent....clearly you either have an agenda to get rid of me or can't read.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 28, 2008, 03:44:18 PM
This day is dragging along if you ask me to the point that if we honestly go another week and remain on day one....this game is going to die....I am not so sure I agree that Miasg should make the decision solely on who to lynch....however, doing something to move the progression of this game off of day one is well...obvious....i t's day one...how long can we really keep this going on and still keep everyone's interest.

TP....I for one have no problem with you questioning your aussie mates....it's just that for some reason at the start of these games you just automatically freak out on miasg and let's get real no ones anything on day one but mafia...so that's why it drives must of us mad...you automatically look evil...and so...I don't think you have to not suspect them or question them...everyone is  open for questioning...but it is nice to see you are truly making an effort to diversify your suspicions a bit....although the fact you listened to reason makes me suspicious of you now...lol!!! But the fact that you are offering opinions on others makes me feel a sense that you are attempting to help town...for that I unvoted you

Hammer....somehow there is a part of me that wonders if you and wes ain't in cahoots.....with wes doing your dirty work...he is accusing me of being absent when I give notice...and yet you are gone with no notice or explanation and yet he never mentions you...then you seem opposed to any efforts to get solution to ending day one...but that could just be your moderator personality driving that opinion.

I have to say I don't fined YB that suspicious....lol.. .go figure...I actually think he's making an effort...I still can't follow half of what he's ever on about...but he's offering info and posting...and participating...tha t's more than we can say for Zulu...he's not even trying.

afroboy....how can you go on about me not being around....before I respond....how about you go back and read my posting in this game and tell me if you think I was in error and deliberately absent in the game...I've responded more and been  more active in this game than you and had far less time to do such.

The lynch will only take place if there is a majority vote...unless we all work toward some other suggestions...since that isn't going anywhere...how about we do get on with a vote....after I see the responses from this post and get to work tomorrow i will vote....something has to get this game moving we are on page 18 and it is day one! It's all pure guessing at this point with nothing of worth to really have as concrete evidence at this point.


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 28, 2008, 10:11:08 PM
This day is dragging along if you ask me to the point that if we honestly go another week and remain on day one....this game is going to die....I am not so sure I agree that Miasg should make the decision solely on who to lynch....however, doing something to move the progression of this game off of day one is well...obvious....i t's day one...how long can we really keep this going on and still keep everyone's interest.

As per normal we completely disagree. The day has to be decided on a majority lynch otherwise its not fair. There's more town than mafia so why would we want to make it so the few are powerful. The day is going fine in my opinion and we dont need to rush it!!!


Hammer....somehow there is a part of me that wonders if you and wes ain't in cahoots.....with wes doing your dirty work...he is accusing me of being absent when I give notice...and yet you are gone with no notice or explanation and yet he never mentions you...then you seem opposed to any efforts to get solution to ending day one...but that could just be your moderator personality driving that opinion.

My idea to end day one is to lynch the most suspect person. Steven suggested an idea which seemed quite opportunistic, and misguided in trying to quickly get Miasg to pick someone, which would leave us with no info if the pick was town, and in bad position for day two. I'm actually going to vote for him now to put some pressure on him to respond since my FOS hasn't. Vote:Stevenryals. Not even bothered if you think im somehow linked with Wes, because thats you clutching at straws. I was away for a few days at the start of the game and completely off the forum. I then missed one solitary day. I've posted and checked the forum everyday since. I'm active, and want to catch the mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 28, 2008, 10:32:42 PM
I was already suspicious of you bluestars and these two posts makes me think that even more. At the moment for me wes isn't one of the most sus people, also I didn't go on about you not being around. I did say you weren't posting as much as usual but i feel you have twisted my words. For me you are looking very suspect in the way you post, i do understand the reasons for lack of posting but it's what you're posting that i Vote bluestars for.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on September 28, 2008, 11:13:56 PM
Sorry about bit being around for a few days. Had to have my dog put to sleep on friday so not felt like doing much. Just gonna catch up on what I've missed.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 28, 2008, 11:42:16 PM
I have to say I don't fined YB that suspicious....lol.. .go figure...I actually think he's making an effort...I still can't follow half of what he's ever on about...but he's offering info and posting...and participating...tha t's more than we can say for Zulu...he's not even trying.
how can you believe that ?  I have previously posted what he had said which was nothing .. you can't understand half his posts but that's ok becuase he's posting and offering ?  offering what?  shit about line spacing ?fair enough zulu has posted since and given why he was inactive over the weekend (deepest sympathy mate - been there fricken terrible thing to do) but YB isn't offering anymore.  The only reason TP is now looking town is because he's starting to look at others .. I think his reasoning and logic behind half of his attacks are baseless, misguided, and petty.  Would he be doing this if I hadn't role claimed?   people are complaining about being on 19 or so pages but I'm sure 3-4 of these wer shit between TP, Me, and TCH.  TP might well be town but I haven't ruled him out entirely.  TCH was a part of this and since he "exposed" me, rightly or wrongly, I feel has slipped right back into the back ground. 

Hammer and Axeman your posts to me reick of smugness .. not sure if it's townie arrogance or belief that if your mafia your mates will help you... maybe 1 each ..   

Wes if you firmly believe Bluestars is bad then by all means vote and keep harassing her but there has been plenty of notice that she would not be active due to certain things, so some of your arguement is lost on me ..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 29, 2008, 02:04:28 AM
As per normal we completely disagree. The day has to be decided on a majority lynch otherwise its not fair. There's more town than mafia so why would we want to make it so the few are powerful. The day is going fine in my opinion and we dont need to rush it!!!

I disagree if you can't get a majority lynch then tough, it's better to keep the game moving than people to get bored and stop posting which happens. Deadlines cause people fence sitting to become more active. I'd rather vote off a non playing person to get to the night phase and keep the game moving.

  TCH was a part of this and since he "exposed" me, rightly or wrongly, I feel has slipped right back into the back ground. 

I did mention a few pages ago that my net access was restricted due to some work being done at my home. As to exposing you, i just followed up on something you posted, anyone could have just because i'm in your timezone and posted it i'm at fault.


Sorry to hear about the dog Zulu :-(


I'm still leaving my vote on Afro for the moment but Laser has been attacking me ever since i did so, maybe the two are linked someway (in the game) and he's trying to deflect me away from Afro by attacking me.


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 29, 2008, 08:23:00 AM
I did mention a few pages ago that my net access was restricted due to some work being done at my home. As to exposing you, i just followed up on something you posted, anyone could have just because i'm in your timezone and posted it i'm at fault.
 

yes restricted but not during the work day - I know that for fact ... maybe for saturday .. didn't stop you posting though ..  still think you've withdrawn a bit.   Yes it may be bad luck that you posted what you did - and you have said you didn't know who I was at the time - but seeing there is only 2 characters you come straight out with that - yet you keep stuff about what TP (before the actual start ) did and said to yourself for a few days.  Keeping information only to release it when it suits doesn't seem very "townie" to me..   Seems like you thought about what to do with that information (which my have shut him up earlier) and didn't think too much about outing me.  There doesn't seem to be any remorse however that you assisted in outing me.  It's just my fault 100% and since you are in my time zone just co-incidental and bad luck.   Of course really I only have myself to blame for not taking the time ..

I guess to sum in all up I don't trust you .. I don't know if your good or evil .. but I don't trust you.  Same with everyone else playing really  :) 

also if there is a deadline and everyone posts wouldn't the person with the most votes be the majority lynch for that time ?   with no deadline then it would be 8 people to vote.  make sense?  probably not ..  does to me.  It's like an election with 16 parties .. everyone votes who ever gets the most votes (majority) wins .. or in this case loses.    it's basically survivor on day 1 .. "TP your tribe has spoken" etc etc ...  there is no point going on about it though as currieman has indicated the imminent arrival of a deadline.   
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 29, 2008, 09:34:34 AM
I disagree if you can't get a majority lynch then tough, it's better to keep the game moving than people to get bored and stop posting which happens. Deadlines cause people fence sitting to become more active. I'd rather vote off a non playing person to get to the night phase and keep the game moving.

I did mention a few pages ago that my net access was restricted due to some work being done at my home. As to exposing you, i just followed up on something you posted, anyone could have just because i'm in your timezone and posted it i'm at fault.


Sorry to hear about the dog Zulu :-(


I'm still leaving my vote on Afro for the moment but Laser has been attacking me ever since i did so, maybe the two are linked someway (in the game) and he's trying to deflect me away from Afro by attacking me.

No, i'm not  linked with afro... I admit I don't know for sure... it's  I just think I can judge him fairly well by know & somethings in his posts make me think he is town that's all ....

I voted for you cause it just seemed you 3 where just posting about each other when you were forced to move outside the bracket it just seemed you randomly picked on him I was just thinking it was easier than going for say axeman (just for example) who in my mind up to that time had seemed a lot more dodgey.

I do agree about a  deadline though ... then the person with the majority goes ... most people have been contributing fairly well & where still no nearer ... I think that those who have not voted should asap ... If today is ever going to come to an end then we all need to vote....

I'm a bit sus of those who have not voted yet.... only a couple of people I think .. if I'm not wrong tp & masterzulu ?

Masterzulu now you have reappeared ... who do you find sus?
 


 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on September 29, 2008, 10:23:40 AM
vote TP

My vote is going with TP. He was so sure miasg and TCH we're mafia. And now it turns out that there is a good chance miasg is town Tp has understandably backed down.  This leads me to believe he is mafia and was going for an early rush to eliminate at least one of his work colleages.

Hope that makes sense posting on Happys site is difficult on the Iphone.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 29, 2008, 12:56:33 PM
Unvote MasterZulu and vote TCH

Now that masterzulu has showed up with his explanation I will cut him some slack.

I'm voting for TCH as he has gone very  quiet since MIASG role claimed and has even backed off TP. It just stinks to me. I think before he knew he could post whatever and it was just going to be considered as the "usual Aussie stuff that was going on" now however with the role claim he has started to be much more careful with his posts and these posts are a lot less.

Just stinks of Mafia play to me!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 29, 2008, 01:52:26 PM
any chance of an updated vote count .. I know there was one done recently, but theres been a bit of movement since then.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 29, 2008, 02:44:59 PM
any chance of an updated vote count .. I know there was one done recently, but theres been a bit of movement since then.

Vote count
3 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue, Mikeblue)
2 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony ( YorkshireBlue, Masterzulu)
2 - StevenRyalls (Wesman, Sir Hammer)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals,)
1 – Afroboy (TCH)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)
1 - Wesman (Bluestars)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)

I think that right
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 29, 2008, 03:04:26 PM
My idea to end day one is to lynch the most suspect person. Steven suggested an idea which seemed quite opportunistic, and misguided in trying to quickly get Miasg to pick someone, which would leave us with no info if the pick was town, and in bad position for day two. I'm actually going to vote for him now to put some pressure on him to respond since my FOS hasn't.

no.  obviously you're in favor of manipulating what I said.  The idea was to give someone enough power to force quality reactions from people as it's not working for us yet.  most are sitting back and waiting and it's useless.  I never said we should just follow MIASG's vote, the idea is to give someone that most agree are town, and give them ultimate power.  When someone who has that ability asks questions of you, you would most certainly react differently than if just one vote hung in the balance.  sorry you are having difficulty understanding such a complicated matter.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 29, 2008, 03:05:33 PM
I was already suspicious of you bluestars and these two posts makes me think that even more. At the moment for me wes isn't one of the most sus people, also I didn't go on about you not being around. I did say you weren't posting as much as usual but i feel you have twisted my words. For me you are looking very suspect in the way you post, i do understand the reasons for lack of posting but it's what you're posting that i Vote bluestars for.

this is just tit for tat afroboy, i expect more from you..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 29, 2008, 03:18:54 PM
YB is a tough cookie to crack..  he's played this way every game I've seen him in.. 
he's been more active in this day than ever..  So to me that means he probably has a good role..  we know MIASG is probably JB, so there is only 1 or 2 other power roles in the game that I feel are good enough to make Yorkshireblue get more involved... just not sure if it's his role thats brought him out, or if he's just bored??  he's very confusing, and I can never tell who or what he is in these games....
wonder if he's ever had a powerful mafia role (ie not just a mafia member)... if not, then maybe that's the secret..  but I cant remember what roles he had and dont have time today to look.. if nobody else has figured it out, I'll go back tomorrow during work and see what I can find..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 29, 2008, 03:29:47 PM
Sorry for being absent over the weekend, it was quite a messy one. Had a quick scan (will have a proper read and post, later in the afternoon) and people seem to be saying YB isn't suspicious? Bizarre.

He accused MIASG and voted to start with, fair enough. But then after he'd been outed as Bauer, he came back on, apologised for his original poor reason for voting, but rather than altering his vote, he just changed the reason to something else. THEN, when he was told this was suspicious, he removed it. How can that possibly NOT be seen as dodgy?

I agree about TCH's activity since all of the early shenanigans. Seems like he's consciously taken a step back from the game to get out of the limelight. I'm not including the time he's said he wouldn't be on for in that either, the reduction of involvement started way before that. Like i said earlier in the game, his over the top reaction at the start seemed to be one of sheer annoyance that a plan to lay low had been ruined by Trick Pony's accusation. Coupled with the whole episode where he explicitly pointed out who MIASG was, he looks dodgy to me. I know MIASG shouldn't have said what he did, but there's no way you should be then adding emphasis to it, just to make sure absolutely everyone knows.

Anyway, i'll have a better read soon. A lot seems to have happened.

2 posts since i started.

I never said we should just follow MIASG's vote, the idea is to give someone that most agree are town, and give them ultimate power. 

Hmm..

I do believe his role claim so his vote will sway mine..  so that's two, and mike if you're in, that's 3 votes.. 

all we need is 8 to make the lynch..

we must remember though, that mafia will get involved in this so we cant say that those who follow miasg's lead are town.. 

This post definitely indicates to me that you were just planning to follow whatever MIASG did, if everyone agreed to your plan?

3 posts now.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 29, 2008, 03:43:22 PM
MIASG had already voted.. the idea was not to just jump on his vote.. why is this so hard for you to understand?  This day is getting tired.. I know hammer doesnt mind.. but I DO..  i'm getting bored with it.. a deadline is needed, I suggested making last friday the "unofficial" deadline.. that didnt work, so I tried to suggest something that would get this day moving..  TCH has deadlines in his games, they move quickly, and they're a lot of fun..  Usually I'm dead before the 2nd day starts, but it's more fun.. this is just dragging, and I dont have time to work and read 20 pages of posts... 


Axeman is very quite, I've got my vote on him, but that's not brought him out of hiding...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 29, 2008, 08:30:28 PM
well...not much posting this week so far....seems to me that the point of the game dragging might be making it's own point.

Hippo, I think that steven was simply saying what a few of us others have been saying....let's find a way to get day one progressing...many aren't even bothering to vote and haven't even really done any fosing...so the point is that a few of us...probably all townies sit here and post and accuse each other while mafia are probably active enough to simply appear interested....I was not a fan of the idea of miasg picking the person to lynch but I think the idea was that he would have final say of what the majority were thinking...and considering he's made a claim, no one has refuted that claim...well I'm inclined to feel as if at this point on day one there is no reason to not trust miasg as well...sure there could be a crazy twist...but at this point....I'm sorry I'm getting sort of bored with going on and on...but if that is what the majority want to do...then fine...I'm not fighting over it...I just think that making day one progress and getting a deadline of at least a two weeks per day is reasonable.

that being said...afroboy I am not following what you are saying about what I am posting...I feel I had a right to respond when being called out by wes for something out of my control and you come along right after it was concluded I was in training and say you still think I'm suspicious for lack of posting...now you are saying it's what I'm posting...what have I posted is giving you trouble because I am not following..

zulu...really sorry for your loss.

for the record I am not going to defend YB....I think some have misread my thoughts..I don't know his role...but someone mentioned that his posting style is different...well I felt that compared to other games when he puts one line and then offers not even so much as a word additional is annoying and drives me nuts..and yes miasg his post about the spacing was crap...but I think he admitted to that and well...whatever I'm not defending him because I don't know if he's town or not...but I was just adding my thoughts.

hammerbro...are you still here...don't recall seeming much of worth coming in as of late from you.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 29, 2008, 08:33:10 PM
Right im going back to my first vote, i can not see any time for the day to end and this might speed things up a bit. Im going to unvote StevenRyals and Vote TCH. I think the mafia are playing a good game and its difficult to find them as i think they are the quiet ones. Maybe if we pull TCH for his first reaction it might start them sweating a little
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on September 29, 2008, 09:40:01 PM
I agree now that there should be a deadline put in place for before or at the end of the week

this is just tit for tat afroboy, i expect more from you..
It was not "tit for tat". I said her comments on other players also strengthened my reasons. Also I had talked about her being suspicious before the vote and her posts so no it wasn't "tit for tat". And Bluestars also says….

that being said...afroboy I am not following what you are saying about what I am posting...I feel I had a right to respond when being called out by wes for something out of my control and you come along right after it was concluded I was in training and say you still think I'm suspicious for lack of posting...now you are saying it's what I'm posting...what have I posted is giving you trouble because I am not following..

Now if you see my last post….
I was already suspicious of you bluestars and these two posts makes me think that even more. At the moment for me wes isn't one of the most sus people, also I didn't go on about you not being around. I did say you weren't posting as much as usual but i feel you have twisted my words. For me you are looking very suspect in the way you post, i do understand the reasons for lack of posting but it's what you're posting that i Vote bluestars for.
I clearly say I understand the reasons for lack of posting, completely against what you’re saying. Twisting my posts again. I know I say earlier you’re not posting as much as usual but that’s because when you have come on earlier you have made a few posts with not much in.

And talk about tit for tat voting!!!! It’s on a major scale with bluestars vote but you don’t bring that up do you steve!! The pair of you look so evil! If I wasn’t voting for bluestars it would be you steve.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 29, 2008, 10:02:13 PM
What????? How is me giving my opinion on players suspect??? I'm asking you to tell me what CONTENT in my posts is suspect...what I'm confused about is what CONTENT you say you find suspicious...I get the other part now....so for now UNVOTE AFROBOY I'd like to hear what you have to say because honestly you are just confusing me. I'm not twisting anything you aren't being clear to me....or maybe I'm lost...either way...what have I stated that you disagree with...maybe that's a better way to find out what you are on about...and tell me I'm twisting things...hell I can't even figure out what you are saying in the first place!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 29, 2008, 10:08:10 PM
What????? How is me giving my opinion on players suspect??? I'm asking you to tell me what CONTENT in my posts is suspect...what I'm confused about is what CONTENT you say you find suspicious...I get the other part now....so for now UNVOTE AFROBOY I'd like to hear what you have to say because honestly you are just confusing me. I'm not twisting anything you aren't being clear to me....or maybe I'm lost...either way...what have I stated that you disagree with...maybe that's a better way to find out what you are on about...and tell me I'm twisting things...hell I can't even figure out what you are saying in the first place!


Bluestars are you playing the same game we are?

Why are you unvoting Afroboy? you have not voted for him you voted me!!!, are you really reading everything or are you skimming posts?

The town needs answers here, please explain your slip up here?

Unvote TCH,

FOS Bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 29, 2008, 10:11:30 PM
And talk about tit for tat voting!!!! It’s on a major scale with bluestars vote but you don’t bring that up do you steve!! The pair of you look so evil! If I wasn’t voting for bluestars it would be you steve.

Bluestars is back to her old game, she's worse at being mafia than I am.  Within a day of her playing the last game I knew she was mafia..  I feel like she's a townie because she's back to her old style.  I have closer contact so I knew what days she was away and what days she was not.. when she's had a computer she's posted, which is info that I tried to share with you all by saying when she had training (at her request by the way).. and now you think we're both evil??  silly boy..


Bluestars, he cant tell you what content is in your post thats suspect, because he sees that you're back to your old style as well, and he knows you're not really good at protecting yourself (which is why you always die early, same as me) so he's coming after you because he already knows who's town and who's not..  simple as..  afroboy is mafia and I'm almost certain of it..  

he's been completely absent and hasn't done a thing to help the town..

so.. Afroboy, in the night phase, please tell Happyaxeman & Hammerbro & _________ that you want to have me killed because you've been labled.
 
dammit another post..

Why are you unvoting Afroboy? you have not voted for him you voted me!!!, are you really reading everything or are you skimming posts?

good pickup wes..  but I'm still pretty sure she's not mafia this time around..  and no i don't know her role (as you asked before) but i have a good feel... if she is, then i'm calling off the wedding..  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 29, 2008, 10:30:21 PM
Axeman is very quite, I've got my vote on him, but that's not brought him out of hiding...
what planet are you on? planet mafia by any chance?
Your vote on me means jack shit, cause you already know i'm a townie and your vote on me is simply a token gesture.
So my posts over weekend mean jack shit and i'm still hiding? moran. If i have time, I post.

so.. Afroboy, in the night phase, please tell Happyaxeman & Hammerbro & _________ that you want to have me killed because you've been labled.
are you trying to use subversive commenting or something, cause you mention my name in an awfull lot of your posts.
Vote me all you want you american idiot. :tease2:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 29, 2008, 11:44:54 PM

Bluestars are you playing the same game we are? Why are you unvoting Afroboy? you have not voted for him you voted me!!!, are you really reading everything or are you skimming posts?  The town needs answers here, please explain your slip up here? Unvote TCH, FOS Bluestars


maybe it's the outside connection but Bluestars and Steven sure as hell defend each other with at time anger - and (unless they already know) they couldn't know what each other is .. and that the opposition to them is actually mafia.

Wes I can't see how you would vote for TCH and then 2 hours with nothing else written from or about him all of a sudden unvote him and only FOS Bluestars?  can you please explain that !

YB is a tough cookie to crack..  he's played this way every game I've seen him in.. 
he's been more active in this day than ever..  So to me that means he probably has a good role..  we know MIASG is probably JB, so there is only 1 or 2 other power roles in the game that I feel are good enough to make Yorkshireblue get more involved... just not sure if it's his role thats brought him out, or if he's just bored??  he's very confusing, and I can never tell who or what he is in these games....
wonder if he's ever had a powerful mafia role (ie not just a mafia member)... if not, then maybe that's the secret..  but I cant remember what roles he had and dont have time today to look.. if nobody else has figured it out, I'll go back tomorrow during work and see what I can find..
bet you don't and his posts are crazy - pure speculative .. possible alligning ?

no.  obviously you're in favor of manipulating what I said.  The idea was to give someone enough power to force quality reactions from people as it's not working for us yet.  most are sitting back and waiting and it's useless.  I never said we should just follow MIASG's vote, the idea is to give someone that most agree are town, and give them ultimate power.  When someone who has that ability asks questions of you, you would most certainly react differently than if just one vote hung in the balance.  sorry you are having difficulty understanding such a complicated matter.. 
crap utter crap .. if I had a vote on someone why would I all of a sudden change it because you have "granted" me special powers.  You wanted to follow my lead and get others on board but now your stating that's false?  re-read your original post because I think you will find it crystal clear in the view that people should be lynching who I choose.
 
Hippo's post (already quoted enough here it's a few back to read it ..  lazy people)  sums up why my vote stays on YB.  Has there been any attempt apart from a retraction of a vote to help town .. nope .nadda .. neyt .. not helping .. inactive .. people coming out trying to say he's good ... possible mafia godfather in my eyes.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 30, 2008, 01:15:31 AM
well it seems for some reason that i have somehow become the main suspect, so i will attempt again to explain how i cannot be mafia and voting for me is a waste of a vote.

Before the game started TP let slip that he hoped he wasn't on the same side as miasg as miasg would be trouble. Which i deduced that he had a power role of some sorts. I started the game with this knowledge and pm'd currieman during the first week to see if there would be any ramifications in using that piece of information. He said no.
During this time TP played his usual self centred game of let's accuse any other aussie and get them voted off. This involved both miasg and myself voting for him as i was happy to get rid of him so the rest of us could play the game properly.
I kept my TP information to myself as i had no idea what role miasg was and if he was evil then all well and good. However when he slipped up i went to wiki and checked, then posted the 2 roles he could be. I have no idea how important the other role was but miasg let it be known that he was Jack.
At that point i considered the TP situation and decided that i should let everyone know what i knew about him. I did so and people seem to believe it as he has no longer been getting votes. So if i was evil why would i come out with information to save a townie with a power role ?? It makes no logical sence unless i am a townie myself.

My lack of posting is a joke, i explained i would be posting less as i lost access at home but still chipped in at work.

So i must deduce that at least one of the people who have voted for me is mafia. Wes put on a vote but then quickly took if off for BLuestars. If he was mafia trying to bandwagon then he wouldn't have done that, so i'm inclined to believe he is innocent.
So that leaves Laser, Hammersbro and Mike, Hammersbro has not been posting, and of the other two i think Mike is more sus. He was quick to back Steve up in getting miasg to lead us to pick a lynch. Then his reasons for voting myself are week, just saying i've gone quiet when in fact many others are quieter.

I normally prefer to vote non playing people off as they detract from the game and that's why i'm going to

unvote Afro and Vote Hammersbro maybe a vote will get him back and playing

plus a big FOS MIKE

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 01:16:10 AM
Vote me all you want you american idiot. :tease2:

didnt expect this from you
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 01:23:15 AM
Your vote on me means jack shit,


You mean that?  you mean a one vote doesnt matter?  guess we need something that holds more weight to get this game going..  which brings me back to my previous idea..  if we dont have a deadline, then we have to have something else..  otherwise I'll bring this day to an end myself..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 30, 2008, 01:54:27 AM

You mean that?  you mean a one vote doesnt matter?  guess we need something that holds more weight to get this game going..  which brings me back to my previous idea..  if we dont have a deadline, then we have to have something else..  otherwise I'll bring this day to an end myself..


hmmm, perhaps the lady doth protest too much? I think we have mafia rattled, and trying one last bluff?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 30, 2008, 03:34:14 AM
So if i was evil why would i come out with information to save a townie with a power role ?? It makes no logical sence unless i am a townie myself.
becuase it targets the other player.  You still don't know if he's good or evil same as earlier on.

taking you for your word I agree about hammerbro but I'm not going take my vote off YorkshireBlue unless he proves me wrong.

hmmm, perhaps the lady doth protest too much? I think we have mafia rattled, and trying one last bluff?
this smacks of mafia trying to get the townie to explode.  The townie logic would be to tell steve to calm down if he;s town and don't make the same mistake I did- so STEVE IF YOUR TOWN CALM DOWN.  He's done it before so why would you try to call his bluff.  Can't help.  Can't also help but seeing a 1-2 act with Happy axeman on steven. 

I've had this arguement before about 1 vote counting or not .. to me it does as it is your say in the game.  The majority may not be right.  if your certain you need others seeing your way.  To me the standout play is still Yorkshire Blue.

I'd say at this point of the game most if not all the mafia have probably voted and are on the multiple votes lis - it makes no sense for them to individually pick one person each .. at last count (sorry haven't updated since currie's last post) the multiples are:
Vote count
3 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue, Mikeblue)
2 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony ( YorkshireBlue, Masterzulu)
2 - StevenRyalls (Wesman, Sir Hammer)

interesting list I think. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on September 30, 2008, 03:45:32 AM
VOTE : YorkshireBlue

Come out and defend yourself, im over you side stepping questions, obviously because your evil.

Its good to see Blustars back in the game a bit more

Im 80% sure that TCH is evil

Will post later on on everyone else, though YB where have you gone  ??? hiding  :curtainpeek:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 30, 2008, 08:18:48 AM
 :confused:  I'm not used to you agreeing with me on things TP  :confused:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 30, 2008, 09:52:43 AM
didnt expect this from you
well in my eyes, you are currently an Idiot for not reading my posts, and tryng to spin shit saying i'm mafia, when you know full well i'm not. Mafia scum.

You mean that?  you mean a one vote doesnt matter?  guess we need something that holds more weight to get this game going..  which brings me back to my previous idea..  if we dont have a deadline, then we have to have something else..  otherwise I'll bring this day to an end myself..
two posts one after the other splitting my shortv single post up... and then dropping the comments about what ive actually said? Why not just quote my post in full? was it another vain attempt to try to make me look more suspicious?

You said i was in hiding, yet my posts a page or so before proves i'm not, yet you fail to acknowledge my suspicions of you and say im hiding. this is why i called you a moran, your vote on me does mean jack shit, cause like i said in the post you conveniently split, You know i'm town, so yes, your vote on me means jack shit. I actually had two votes on me at one point with Mikeblue, was i arsed about it? no, cause i have nothing to hide... so steven what is your point again? where am i hiding and what have i written which makes me look suspicious?  ???

If anyone is hiding its Hammersbro.

The townie logic would be to tell steve to calm down if he;s town and don't make the same mistake I did- so STEVE IF YOUR TOWN CALM DOWN.  He's done it before so why would you try to call his bluff.  Can't help.  Can't also help but seeing a 1-2 act with Happy axeman on steven. 

I've had this arguement before about 1 vote counting or not .. to me it does as it is your say in the game.  The majority may not be right.  if your certain you need others seeing your way.  To me the standout play is still Yorkshire Blue.

I'd say at this point of the game most if not all the mafia have probably voted and are on the multiple votes lis - it makes no sense for them to individually pick one person each .. at last count (sorry haven't updated since currie's last post) the multiples are:
Vote count
3 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue, Mikeblue)
2 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony ( YorkshireBlue, Masterzulu)
2 - StevenRyalls (Wesman, Sir Hammer)

interesting list I think. 
what do you mean, a 1-2 act? read the posts from the start, Steven has been wrongly gunning for me in nearly all his posts. he defends Bluestars for not being on, yet when i explain my lifes in turmoil at the mo, it flows above his head and tells me to come out of hiding, despite the fact i never was hiding in the first place? ???

Last time i'll say it, but i am a bog standard Townie with no power, apart from my vote during the day. I signed up and should of had Wes's role but currieman saw fit to hand it to wes instead despite me asking for the place first... Currie then had to make a new role for me, and for Zulu who signed up not long after me, which inturn makes me assume Zulu is also Town... although I'm not taking it for granted...

I'm not going to Vote Steven Just yet, I think he may of simply got something into his head and gone the wrong way about it. But my vote is staying on Laserblue. as anyone accusing him (or afroboy) gets there ear aggressivly chewed... which to me says that he is being too defensive by being aggressive in his replys to accusations.  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 30, 2008, 10:01:16 AM
this smacks of mafia trying to get the townie to explode.  The townie logic would be to tell steve to calm down if he;s town and don't make the same mistake I did- so STEVE IF YOUR TOWN CALM DOWN.  He's done it before so why would you try to call his bluff.  Can't help.  Can't also help but seeing a 1-2 act with Happy axeman on steven. 

No, it smacks of a player frustrating with one players attempt to hold the game hostage. Stevenryals is a good player and quite a nice guy, just on this game sometimes he gets incredibly frustrated and seems the need to get into the night phase quickly? If every day Steven doesnt get his way, he threatens to modkill himself then, how far are we going to get? Maybe he knows that if he threatens to modkill himself, that people will assume he's townie and suddenly trust him?

I.E Steven don't modkill yourself, and stop threatening to. Its embarassing. How would you feel if you were in a mafia, one of your partners got lynched first day and revealed the rest of you? Would make the game seem pointless and a waste of time. So does modkills like that. Currieman, I'm sure will set a deadline fairly soon so theres no need anyway?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 30, 2008, 10:35:27 AM
3 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG, Trickpony)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
1 - Wesmancity(Bluestars)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)
1 - MasterZulu (mikeblue)
1 - StevenRyals (SirHammer)
1 - Hammersbro (tch)

not currenlty voted: WesMancity

I think thats a correct vote count.  ;)

After looking through, Wes's Voting patterns seem extremly random, and changes at whim.
BlueStars has lost track of who she is actually voting within a few posts, tries to unvote Afro but has actually voted Wes! ???

currently Laserblue, StevenRyals, Wesmancity and MikeBlue carry most of my suspicions.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 30, 2008, 10:46:29 AM

Wes I can't see how you would vote for TCH and then 2 hours with nothing else written from or about him all of a sudden unvote him and only FOS Bluestars?  can you please explain that !

Yes, because my head is spinning and can not decide who to vote i have my sus. on Bluestars, StevenRyals and TCH and carnt decide who to vote first which would be best for the town. It was going to be TCH, but with Bluestars unvote: afro when it should of been me looks like shes not following the game properly. I am waiting for a answer from her before i vote her or TCH.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 30, 2008, 11:06:37 AM
I missed Afroboy off the list.

3 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG, Trickpony)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
1 - Wesmancity(Bluestars)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)
1 - MasterZulu (mikeblue)
1 - StevenRyals (SirHammer)
1 - Hammersbro (tch)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)

thats 10 different peeps up for nomination, with only Wes still to vote.
Derhammer, Hippo, Afroboy, Mikeblue and Miasg are the only peeps without a vote against there name.

@wes, it hasnt bothered you so far about voting and changing your vote at a whim, so why have you suddenly gone all hesitant when your the only person still to carry a vote? ???

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 30, 2008, 11:19:46 AM


@wes, it hasnt bothered you so far about voting and changing your vote at a whim, so why have you suddenly gone all hesitant when your the only person still to carry a vote? ???



what difference is my vote gonna make at the min?, it takes 8 votes for a lynch and we are no where near that. I am giving Bluestars the benafit of responding to my last post. Why are are you rushing me Happy? what is your motive behind it
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 30, 2008, 11:53:57 AM
No I'm not rushing you, I'm asking why your voting is so erratic? I havent voted you, yet your getting all defensive like Laserblue has been.

Right im going back to my first vote, i can not see any time for the day to end and this might speed things up a bit. Im going to unvote StevenRyals and Vote TCH. I think the mafia are playing a good game and its difficult to find them as i think they are the quiet ones. Maybe if we pull TCH for his first reaction it might start them sweating a little

and then a mere 1 an half hours later and a sinlge post from Afro and then Bluestars, you post...


Bluestars are you playing the same game we are?

Why are you unvoting Afroboy? you have not voted for him you voted me!!!, are you really reading everything or are you skimming posts?

The town needs answers here, please explain your slip up here?

Unvote TCH,

FOS Bluestars

I can understand your question to bluestars, but why remove your vote on TCH, to  only fos bluestars?
What youve done is say your own previous post was pointless and a throw-a-away comment, and just there to show your on the board. Maybe you are mafia and trying desperatly to make it look like your town.

Fos means nothing as everyone should be under the 'finger of suspicion', and no-one bothers counting them cause there worthless anyway. if 3 fosses=1 vote, then yeah, there usefull.

tbh, i dont reckon there is anything too sinister about Bluestars mistake, maybe she was rushed and her head got muddled, i'm sure ive done it many times in past mafia games. Maybe Godfather Steve has been defending her so vigourously knowing full well that she is town giving him browny points upon her death. Maybe Wes also knows she is town, and is trying hard to make something stick to her whilst trying to make the godfathers shit whiter than white in the process. ???

UNVOTE LASERBLUE, VOTE WESMANCITY
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 30, 2008, 12:01:31 PM
I missed Afroboy off the list.

3 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG, Trickpony)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
1 - Wesmancity(Bluestars)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)
1 - MasterZulu (mikeblue)
1 - StevenRyals (SirHammer)
1 - Hammersbro (tch)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)

thats 10 different peeps up for nomination, with only Wes still to vote.
Derhammer, Hippo, Afroboy, Mikeblue and Miasg are the only peeps without a vote against there name.

@wes, it hasnt bothered you so far about voting and changing your vote at a whim, so why have you suddenly gone all hesitant when your the only person still to carry a vote? ???



That's a ridiculous vote count. I mean, really? I know people might have different prime suspects, but for there to be 7 people all with one vote to their name is just stupid. There's got to be some sort of compromising done. Don't be so scared of actually having a vote that will actually matter.

Hammerbro has posted 7 times in 20 pages. He voted for Hammer for not posting, Trick Pony for over analysing some words, MIASG for not being clear in claiming and TCH for being the other australian. That's just lazy. I mean, you've basically not paid any attention to anything, and are voting entirely on the fact that 1 in 3 players will be evil. Each player has as much chance as being evil as anyone else (other than MIASG now), so picking 3 names and saying one will be evil is redundant. It's not a reason. Everyone can pick 3 random names and say one will be evil - chances are one will be, but it's not guaranteed is it? might be more than 1, might be less. It's just a random vote and not helpful. The random voting phase should be well and truly over by now. We'll only get somewhere, if people actually make educated guesses based on the posts.

And it's made even more lazy by the fact that there are some genuinely decent reasons for voting TCH - he has looked dodgy. But so do you.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 30, 2008, 12:06:34 PM
only 4 people voting against each other .. TCH and Hammerbro .. and TP and YorkshireBlue .. which is surprising considering all the reactions lately

glad to see a reaction from Axeman and Hammer about the 1-2's ... I was hoping you both wouldn't ignore it.


thats 10 different peeps up for nomination, with only Wes still to vote.
it won't last long and suprised me  :D

Derhammer, Hippo, Afroboy, Mikeblue and Miasg are the only peeps without a vote against there name.
Ok I understand why no votes against me but Derhammer, afroboy, and mikeblue are prime suspects in my eyes yet have no votes?  these guys are in my hit list after yorkshire blue.  I know they are also in others lists too .. maybe we keep being lead away from them ?  or they just keep hiding  :thmbdn:  
Hippo I feel will breeze through a few days as he posts just enough not to be accused of not posting .. and while not giving anything away isn't exactly looking like he's not helping town.  Honestly I can't figure out what to have a go at him for .. so if anything he's townie enough for me right now.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 30, 2008, 12:22:40 PM
No I'm not rushing you, I'm asking why your voting is so erratic? I havent voted you, yet your getting all defensive like Laserblue has been.

and then a mere 1 an half hours later and a sinlge post from Afro and then Bluestars, you post...
I can understand your question to bluestars, but why remove your vote on TCH, to  only fos bluestars?
What youve done is say your own previous post was pointless and a throw-a-away comment, and just there to show your on the board. Maybe you are mafia and trying desperatly to make it look like your town.

Fos means nothing as everyone should be under the 'finger of suspicion', and no-one bothers counting them cause there worthless anyway. if 3 fosses=1 vote, then yeah, there usefull.

tbh, i dont reckon there is anything too sinister about Bluestars mistake, maybe she was rushed and her head got muddled, i'm sure ive done it many times in past mafia games. Maybe Godfather Steve has been defending her so vigourously knowing full well that she is town giving him browny points upon her death. Maybe Wes also knows she is town, and is trying hard to make something stick to her whilst trying to make the godfathers shit whiter than white in the process. ???

UNVOTE LASERBLUE, VOTE WESMANCITY

bwwwwaaaaahaahhhhaa aaaaahahahahah!!

all defensive! please im asking you a question re: your post, whats wrong in that?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 30, 2008, 12:37:07 PM
eh? at what point is my post defensive? what question have you asked me? let me see, what is my motive? motive of what? asking why your vote patterns are so erratic? asking why you bothered posting 1 an half hours before you changed your vote again because it has transpired you didnt believe in what you were writing in the first place?
you havent asked me a real question have you?... have you simply tries to side step my accusations? erm, I think the answer is yes.


3 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG, Trickpony)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
2 - Wesmancity(Bluestars, HappyAxeman)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)
1 - MasterZulu (mikeblue)
1 - StevenRyals (SirHammer)
1 - Hammersbro (tch)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 30, 2008, 12:41:29 PM
Wes I can't see how you would vote for TCH and then 2 hours with nothing else written from or about him all of a sudden unvote him and only FOS Bluestars?  can you please explain that !

Wes I know you are answering Happy Axeman right now but I believe I asked you first and you really haven't answered the question.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 12:44:37 PM
only 4 people voting against each other .. TCH and Hammerbro .. and TP and YorkshireBlue .. which is surprising considering all the reactions lately

glad to see a reaction from Axeman and Hammer about the 1-2's ... I was hoping you both wouldn't ignore it.

 it won't last long and suprised me  :D
 Ok I understand why no votes against me but Derhammer, afroboy, and mikeblue are prime suspects in my eyes yet have no votes?  these guys are in my hit list after yorkshire blue.  I know they are also in others lists too .. maybe we keep being lead away from them ?  or they just keep hiding  :thmbdn:  
Hippo I feel will breeze through a few days as he posts just enough not to be accused of not posting .. and while not giving anything away isn't exactly looking like he's not helping town.  Honestly I can't figure out what to have a go at him for .. so if anything he's townie enough for me right now.

This post makes a lot of sense to me. On the whole mafia having two votes on one peron thing. As I think Trick Pony is most probably town at this point and looking at the list of votes Yorky and Zulu are voting trick pony. This is sus to me as I though they were both sus anyways so I'm going to UNVOTE TCH (FOR NOW) AND VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 12:54:29 PM
well in my eyes, you are currently an Idiot for not reading my posts, and tryng to spin shit saying i'm mafia, when you know full well i'm not. Mafia scum.
two posts one after the other splitting my shortv single post up... and then dropping the comments about what ive actually said? Why not just quote my post in full? was it another vain attempt to try to make me look more suspicious?

You said i was in hiding, yet my posts a page or so before proves i'm not, yet you fail to acknowledge my suspicions of you and say im hiding. this is why i called you a moran, your vote on me does mean jack shit, cause like i said in the post you conveniently split, You know i'm town, so yes, your vote on me means jack shit. I actually had two votes on me at one point with Mikeblue, was i arsed about it? no, cause i have nothing to hide... so steven what is your point again? where am i hiding and what have i written which makes me look suspicious?  ???

If anyone is hiding its Hammersbro.
what do you mean, a 1-2 act? read the posts from the start, Steven has been wrongly gunning for me in nearly all his posts. he defends Bluestars for not being on, yet when i explain my lifes in turmoil at the mo, it flows above his head and tells me to come out of hiding, despite the fact i never was hiding in the first place? ???

Last time i'll say it, but i am a bog standard Townie with no power, apart from my vote during the day. I signed up and should of had Wes's role but currieman saw fit to hand it to wes instead despite me asking for the place first... Currie then had to make a new role for me, and for Zulu who signed up not long after me, which inturn makes me assume Zulu is also Town... although I'm not taking it for granted...

I'm not going to Vote Steven Just yet, I think he may of simply got something into his head and gone the wrong way about it. But my vote is staying on Laserblue. as anyone accusing him (or afroboy) gets there ear aggressivly chewed... which to me says that he is being too defensive by being aggressive in his replys to accusations.  ;)

Happy this post stinks to me. It sounds like you are just shrugging everything off and if you were town I think you would try and defend yourself. Instead you try and deflect attention on to other people and give out the whole I don't care if you vote for me attitude....mafia to me I smell. You have not really tried to help much this game and seem happy to argue with people than help us dig for mafia. Normally when you are town you question everyone and I don't see much of this.

There is no reason to think that because you signed up late you would be Town. Purely depends on the number of roles given out and it may have been a case that if there was one more pleyer than he would have been mafia.

And how would Steve know you are town? Why is this? Are you both Mafia and know each others roles and trying to make it appear you are after each other when in fact you are together? Strange statement if you ask me.

FOS HappyAxeman
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 01:00:09 PM
This post makes a lot of sense to me. On the whole mafia having two votes on one peron thing. As I think Trick Pony is most probably town at this point and looking at the list of votes Yorky and Zulu are voting trick pony. This is sus to me as I though they were both sus anyways so I'm going to UNVOTE TCH (FOR NOW) AND VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE

Oops qouted wrong post meant the this one ....(see following post with MIASG quote)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 01:01:37 PM
Quote from: Tommy Caton's hairstylist on Today at 01:15:31 AM
So if i was evil why would i come out with information to save a townie with a power role ?? It makes no logical sence unless i am a townie myself.
becuase it targets the other player.  You still don't know if he's good or evil same as earlier on.

taking you for your word I agree about hammerbro but I'm not going take my vote off YorkshireBlue unless he proves me wrong.
Quote from: Sir Hammer on Today at 01:54:27 AM

hmmm, perhaps the lady doth protest too much? I think we have mafia rattled, and trying one last bluff?

this smacks of mafia trying to get the townie to explode.  The townie logic would be to tell steve to calm down if he;s town and don't make the same mistake I did- so STEVE IF YOUR TOWN CALM DOWN.  He's done it before so why would you try to call his bluff.  Can't help.  Can't also help but seeing a 1-2 act with Happy axeman on steven. 

I've had this arguement before about 1 vote counting or not .. to me it does as it is your say in the game.  The majority may not be right.  if your certain you need others seeing your way.  To me the standout play is still Yorkshire Blue.

I'd say at this point of the game most if not all the mafia have probably voted and are on the multiple votes lis - it makes no sense for them to individually pick one person each .. at last count (sorry haven't updated since currie's last post) the multiples are:
Vote count
3 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue, Mikeblue)
2 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony ( YorkshireBlue, Masterzulu)
2 - StevenRyalls (Wesman, Sir Hammer)

interesting list I think. 

This post makes a lot of sense to me. On the whole mafia having two votes on one peron thing. As I think Trick Pony is most probably town at this point and looking at the list of votes Yorky and Zulu are voting trick pony. This is sus to me as I though they were both sus anyways so I'm going to UNVOTE TCH (FOR NOW) AND VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 01:03:38 PM
TCH quote even.

Really struggling with this quick reply as when you page forward it dissapears again.

Having a right mare today  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 30, 2008, 01:18:21 PM
Happy this post stinks to me. It sounds like you are just shrugging everything off and if you were town I think you would try and defend yourself. Instead you try and deflect attention on to other people and give out the whole I don't care if you vote for me attitude....mafia to me I smell. You have not really tried to help much this game and seem happy to argue with people than help us dig for mafia. Normally when you are town you question everyone and I don't see much of this.

There is no reason to think that because you signed up late you would be Town. Purely depends on the number of roles given out and it may have been a case that if there was one more pleyer than he would have been mafia.

And how would Steve know you are town? Why is this? Are you both Mafia and know each others roles and trying to make it appear you are after each other when in fact you are together? Strange statement if you ask me.

FOS HappyAxeman
I havent been helping the town? your another that has been saying that...
I think its funny how considering i havent been helping town, everyone i say i think is a suspect, comes out agrressive and inturn accuses me of being mafia... the only exception being Afroboy. so thats Mikeblue, StevenRyals, Laserblue and Wes.  ???

who am i arguing with? I'm throwing dirt around, digging and trying to suss out who's who. you getting upset because i'm ruffling feathers?

just to clarify: Actually all roles had been given out when i and Zulu signed up. I asked to be a replacement, but wes took the place to replace Amadjin instead. I spat my dummy out and Currie created two new roles. how is that random?

I suspect Steven of being mafia, so he would know I'm town, wouldnt he?
just as perhaps, you do too.

I dont think your fuckups on this page are funny, all its done is clog up this page with shit from you disguising the arguments over your mafiosa colleagues. all you had to do was preview your post and you can see its fucked up. That in my eyes is lazy, and another reason why i think you could be mafia.
QUICK REPLY: you have to copy the contents of the quickreply to your clipboard. highlight the text(left click drag), right click on highlighted text, select 'copy', turn page, right click, 'paste' into text area. simple.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 30, 2008, 01:29:23 PM

glad to see a reaction from Axeman and Hammer about the 1-2's ... I was hoping you both wouldn't ignore it.

As far as I'm concerned its just misguided? Have me and Axeman agreed on any issues? We both have annoyed steven, but Axeman hasnt commented on my reasons for suspecting Steven? I actually have Axeman down as one of my maybes because I've not made a decision on him yet.

Ok I understand why no votes against me but Derhammer, afroboy, and mikeblue are prime suspects in my eyes yet have no votes?  these guys are in my hit list after yorkshire blue.  I know they are also in others lists too .. maybe we keep being lead away from them ?  or they just keep hiding  :thmbdn:

I'm not hiding, i've been right here, posting my suspicions. Stop trying to pull wool over the eyes of the others. If you are Jack Bauer then your barking up the wrong tree with me.

Hippos made a point about Hammerbro which quite a few others backed up, but no one wants to be the first to vote him for fear of being accused of bandwagoning him. In real life I texted him about an hour ago and told him to get online.

______

!!! 7 New replies!!!

Mikeblue has hit on something I was about to post.

The Majority isnt always right. This is called Ochlocracy (Politics student knowledge shining through), i.e the tyranny of the majority.if the majority are cannibals does that give them the right to eat the minority?

No, but in this game we know most of the players playing now are town with virtually no information. Some of the players are bad guys who have more information. Us as townies have to work hard and figure out who is who. Sometimes we are gonna make the wrong call, but we have to make sure we are always completely justified in who we lynch instead of relying on someone dying with less than the fair amount of votes. Deadline rules mean that whoever has the majority of votes, as long as its over half (4 votes in this case) the original vote requirement. If no-one has this amount of votes then its a no-lynch.

I think the best way to break this deadlock is to have 15 posts in a row. One from each player, highlighting their 3 main suspects. This will force everyone to have a proper think about what arguments have been made. Each post from each player will end in a vote. At the end of that its likely that someone will have more than 4 votes, and then this deadlock will end.

___________________ ________

My main three suspects

Stevenryals, In my opinion tryed to manipulate the town by setting up Miasg as a patsy to pick someone to lynch leaving us with no information and chaos in day two. Instead of answering my accusation, he threatened to modkill himself, which in my opinion might be a bluff.

You mean that?  you mean a one vote doesnt matter?  guess we need something that holds more weight to get this game going..  which brings me back to my previous idea..  if we dont have a deadline, then we have to have something else..  otherwise I'll bring this day to an end myself..

Heres that something else Steven that isnt a modkill or a deadline!

Minor suspicion-Afroboy, seemed to be eager to show that because he had attacked me early on, that made him innocent. Not at all sure though now, and he's probably pro-town

Hippo and Hammerbro, seems to be slipping under radar again without accusing people like he normally does and Hammerbro has to be treated as suspect for disappearing

Confirm Vote:stevenryals



Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 30, 2008, 01:31:11 PM
just to clarify: Actually all roles had been given out when i and Zulu signed up. I asked to be a replacement, but wes took the place to replace Amadjin instead. I spat my dummy out and Currie created two new roles. how is that random?

When Currieman and Amadjin joined late last time I gave them comedy roles, and in Curries case a non-town one. We should watch Axeman and Zulu
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 01:31:40 PM
ok.. didnt expect to see 2 more pages since yesterday evening..  will read up when I get a chance at work, I'm leaving the house right now.. but just from skimming over, maybe I'm the only one who's noticed, but has happyaxeman ever been this active on day one?  ever?
interesting change in style of play, and most noticeable.   will read up and post at work later.

hammer, i did it in the last game to get things moving and it worked..  if this day keeps f**king dragging on... would do it again..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 01:38:30 PM
Thats a new one.

Because I fucked up my posts (not allowed to edit) I am disgusing arguments? I have put half of them forward. You trying to get people to think your way and influence decisions?

I don't think I have come out and been overly aggressive towards you. I read a post from yourself and didn't like the content or tone. I commented on it and it is you in fact, who has come on and slated me for this. I think it is you whose feathers have been ruffled.

Thank you for clearing up the whole posting thing but still what is a clipboard? To use my lack of knowledge in computers to try and point suspicions towards me is a bit below the belt if you ask me.

Why would 2 new roles not be random??? I don't see your logic here??? Why couldn't he have created one mafia and one town. Its as if you are over stressing this point to make everyone think you are town like its a gospel statement or something. Stop going on about it, it means nothing. Just making you look more sus as it seems to be your best defence....well I have news...its not a defence and its shit!

You are are looking very sus IMHO at the moment. If you are town start making some more effort and try and help us than talking garbage.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 30, 2008, 01:50:01 PM
Happy.... has something upset you ???  because you seemed a bit pissed of at peeps today .... you say others are being aggresive .. you maybe correct, but that's exactly what your doing & it seems a bit like the kettle calling pot...... also as I have stated several times I find mike one of the most suspicious but to have a go at him for messing up his posts, suggesting he has done it on purpose just seems a bit like your just trying to create ammunition to throw at him.

please take this :chill:

 just a joke don't shout at me
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on September 30, 2008, 01:52:05 PM
but just from skimming over, maybe I'm the only one who's noticed, but has happyaxeman ever been this active on day one?  ever?
interesting change in style of play, and most noticeable.
Thank you for clearing up the whole posting thing but still what is a clipboard? To use my lack of knowledge in computers to try and point suspicions towards me is a bit below the belt if you ask me.

You are are looking very sus IMHO at the moment. If you are town start making some more effort and try and help us than talking garbage.
so Ive gone from hiding, to posting too much garbage? jesus christ, I really cant win.  :wall:
If Ive got time I post, i havent got time today and i really should be somewhere else, but ive sat here all morning and now into mid-afternoon and according to mikeblue, all my efforts have been garbage.  :'(

fuck it then, am going out, screw the game, real life is more important.  :-\

Ive just told you how to use the clipboard. its nothing to do with the forum, its your own clipboard accessed via rightclick on the mouse, same as whats used in spreadsheets, Wordproccessors and every where else. lol
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 30, 2008, 01:54:44 PM
Hippos made a point about Hammerbro which quite a few others backed up, but no one wants to be the first to vote him for fear of being accused of bandwagoning him. In real life I texted him about an hour ago and told him to get online.

um i voted for him a couple of pages ago plus all the vote counts have shown that seems rather strange for you to make such a glaring mistake.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 01:59:15 PM
Happy.... has something upset you ???  because you seemed a bit pissed of at peeps today .... you say others are being aggresive .. you maybe correct, but that's exactly what your doing & it seems a bit like the kettle calling pot...... also as I have stated several times I find mike one of the most suspicious but to have a go at him for messing up his posts, suggesting he has done it on purpose just seems a bit like your just trying to create ammunition to throw at him.

please take this :chill:

 just a joke don't shout at me


How I am I one of your main suspicions? Instead of saying this can you offer some reason or explanation to these statements/accusations.

I have been putting valid points together on people and backing up what I have been saying. I have sniffed around and tried to get reactions and find some decent evidence to vote people. Exactly how is this pro active town play suspicious to you???

Can you please explain?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 02:01:16 PM
so Ive gone from hiding, to posting too much garbage? jesus christ, I really cant win.  :wall:
If Ive got time I post, i havent got time today and i really should be somewhere else, but ive sat here all morning and now into mid-afternoon and according to mikeblue, all my efforts have been garbage.  :'(

fuck it then, am going out, screw the game, real life is more important.  :-\

Ive just told you how to use the clipboard. its nothing to do with the forum, its your own clipboard accessed via rightclick on the mouse, same as whats used in spreadsheets, Wordproccessors and every where else. lol

Oh I see I was looking for it on the forum. I will use my note pad in future to copy into. Thanks.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 30, 2008, 02:01:47 PM
Happy's reactions are getting similar to the game i modded which he modkilled himself due to the frustration of people not believing him being town, which he was.

His behaviour is very similar to that so i believe that he is a town. His arguement about being given a late role rings true. When i've added people late they rarely get a good role, either standard townie or mafia henchman depending on the numbers.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 02:05:08 PM
Happy's reactions are getting similar to the game i modded which he modkilled himself due to the frustration of people not believing him being town, which he was.

His behaviour is very similar to that so i believe that he is a town. His arguement about being given a late role rings true. When i've added people late they rarely get a good role, either standard townie or mafia henchman depending on the numbers.



Exactly! Mafia Henchmen! So why should we take it as gospel that he is town.

And why are you sticking up for him? How can you be so sure about him? In cahoots or affiliation with somenone you know is town???

Tommy you just dig and dig!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 30, 2008, 02:05:57 PM

How I am I one of your main suspicions? Instead of saying this can you offer some reason or explanation to these statements/accusations.

I have been putting valid points together on people and backing up what I have been saying. I have sniffed around and tried to get reactions and find some decent evidence to vote people. Exactly how is this pro active town play suspicious to you???

Can you please explain?


Well i find you suspicious because you have wrongly suggested that i might be evil  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 30, 2008, 02:08:49 PM
Exactly! Mafia Henchmen! So why should we take it as gospel that he is town.

And why are you sticking up for him? How can you be so sure about him? In cahoots or affiliation with somenone you know is town???

Tommy you just dig and dig!

well as i stated his reaction is similar to a couple of games ago when he ended up modkilling himself when he had a town role. But mafia is all about opinions and you don't share mine.

Get the cop to investigate him and if innocent then Zulu has a strong chance of being evil
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 02:10:05 PM
Well i find you suspicious because you have wrongly suggested that i might be evil  ;)

How do I know this? Convince me.

To me at this moment in time everyone is sus. The least sus for me at this moment in time are

Hippo
SteveRyalls
Bluestars
MIASG
TP

Read into that as you want. I am being 100% honest and as a towny I'm trying to help us, and get the majority to come to a decision. I would not (at this particular moment in time) be voting for these as these seem the most town to me at this moment.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on September 30, 2008, 02:30:30 PM
well i would assume your reasoning behind TP is partly down to what i have posted in the past, so i can't see why i am still considered suspect.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 30, 2008, 02:40:38 PM
Afroboy

I'm quite content with there not being a deadline as yet because this day has really got going and is actually very interesting. Only when it starts to go boring and uninteresting should we stop this day at this moment in time.
Axeman: Fair enough on the TP voting for me point. I'm still suspisious but i'm not going to vote axeman because at the moment with the pressure your putting on I still think you could well be town. The only thing is your pressure's on the wrong people!!

I am on the edge of voting for one of four but i'm going to wait to see what they have to say

I know axeman asked a few pages ago, but you didn't answer. How do you know the people he's putting pressure on are the wrong ones? Fair enough you can speak for yourself, but you're speaking for others here as well, and telling us they're innocent. Why? How do you know?

Axeman arguments

On this whole axeman thing. I would usually have argued with him a bit at some point, but after quite a few games of doing this, i've learnt a bit about his posting style. He only actually argues with people like this if he's town and can't believe people are accusing him. I should know, i've driven him to modkilling himself on a few occasions, thinking he was suspicious. I don't trust him, because he's a clever player, but there's nothing useable against him as yet. When active, he's been one of the most accusatory players. And over the last few pages, his posting has made alot of people reveal alot more about themselves.

Mikeblue

How do I know this? Convince me.

To me at this moment in time everyone is sus. The least sus for me at this moment in time are

Hippo
SteveRyalls
Bluestars
MIASG
TP

Me and Ryals at the top of the list. And you were the one who was keen on his rubbish plan earlier in the day as well. In these games, i've noticed people who are evil tend to try and side with me and steve, because they know we post alot, and are not the people to argue with. Basically, because we'll be persistent and find absolutely anything you've done wrong in the game and write a lot about it. I cannot believe for one moment that you would be openly trusting both of us, without it just being because you want to take the easy option. I mean, i know i'm town (i don't know if he is), but having us on a safe list is absurd.

It's not just you whose done it either, hardly anyone has even mentioned me as anything other than "looking town". Which makes me think i'm probably going to die quite quickly.

I have been putting valid points together on people and backing up what I have been saying. I have sniffed around and tried to get reactions and find some decent evidence to vote people. Exactly how is this pro active town play suspicious to you???

I am being 100% honest and as a towny I'm trying to help us, and get the majority to come to a decision.

2 quotes recently from you. You're trying too hard. All this emphasis of the great work you're doing for the town, and how you're not suspicious. That's for everyone else to decide, not you.

Laserblue

Happy.... has something upset you ???  because you seemed a bit pissed of at peeps today .... you say others are being aggresive .. you maybe correct, but that's exactly what your doing & it seems a bit like the kettle calling pot...... also as I have stated several times I find mike one of the most suspicious but to have a go at him for messing up his posts, suggesting he has done it on purpose just seems a bit like your just trying to create ammunition to throw at him.

please take this :chill:

 just a joke don't shout at me

Something about this post i don't really like. You seem very apprehensive towards conflict. Why? Because it shows people up for what they are? Trying to calm down what seems to have been a very productive afternoons posting, with a lot of stuff being learnt. It just made me think you have something to hide.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on September 30, 2008, 02:58:12 PM
I confused myself and unvoted afroboy when my vote was for wesmancity, I had been in training most of the week and was yes...confused myself because I had been going back and forth in my mind on whether to vote for wesmancity or afroboy....and well...I just honestly forgot which one I had officially voted for....I've been really busy and at the moment of voting I was like I said back and forth because they appeared to be the only ones giving me pressure on being absent when I'd given notice that I would be....that being said...

UNVOTE WESMANCITY...lol...sorry really not excuse just having a hard time participating in this game....but I'm trying.

As far as voting...there is all of the sudden a actual good bit of pages of really talking and discussions going on in the game....and most of it has my head spinning....if I had to make a vote right now...out of respect for everyone and the game I'd vote Hammersbro...he comes on just in time to keep himself from suspicions but never really adds anything of worth...and as someone having a very busy life like it appears axeman is going through as well.......I was leaning toward changing my vote to zulu yesterday, but with the dog story...really....h ow could I go there...lol!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 03:02:56 PM
Hippo stop twisting my words!!!!

I said at the moment and at this moment in time! Read the start of the fecking post you skim reader! I said everyone is suspicious but at this particular moment the 5 listed was my least suspicious and I was trying to put ideas down so we can all come together and make a decision on who to lynch but at this moment in time (that means now hippo) I would not be happy lynching those 5 as to me there are more suspicious people!!!

And you obviously have not played or seen me play much as I don't give a toss who you are. If I think you are evil or acting sus I will tell you about it!

Yes I was up for Steves idea cause like him, I am getting bored of this first day and it could go on forever at this rate, on reflection it was not the best idea agreed.... thats why I am trying to get people to come
 together and making an F-ing vote!

I'm trying to hard to be town??? I am town I don't need to try or do you mean I'm trying to hard by accusing people and thinking of ideas and putting what I'm thinking out there??? Either way you have just got and FOS from me for now and are off my least sus list  :bleh: for twisting my words and trying to start shit that was not there if you read the post properly!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 30, 2008, 03:14:43 PM
What i meant was, every post you seem to be telling us that you're doing all this great pro-town work. Case in point, 3 examples all taken from your last post:

I was trying to put ideas down so we can all come together and make a decision on who to lynch but at this moment in time

thats why I am trying to get people to come together and making an F-ing vote!

I'm trying to hard by accusing people and thinking of ideas and putting what I'm thinking out there???

The mafia obviously try and play in their normal way (or should do), and you seem over keen to point out that you definitely are your usual self and trying to help the town. Obviously, if you're mafia, you'll want to appear as though you're a strong asset to the town. This is something i suspect you're doing.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on September 30, 2008, 03:19:53 PM
"Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”  your all going to the dark side  ;)

sometimes I think I'm glad I roles claimed .. the anger and counter claims is exhausting and actually funny in parts.  I think everyone might be town except 1 person and currieman's sitting back laughing his arse off !

now to the 2 new extra guys .. you might have vanilla flavoured roles .. but there is no garauntee they are town.  I remember my first time as mafia which took a few games and all I wanted to do was to sit back and see what everone else wanted to do in day 2 .. could be what zulu is doing .. then again he's new and doesn't know where to start ..

nice easy comment from laserblue but it's really a hey I'm here doing nothing post.


Hippo is excellent at twisting words .. I just have to look into it more and see who I believe more .. Mike you have been rather keen to follow but you flip flop all around the place - so it makes it hard to see your angles sometimes .. just the way it is. 

I think yorkshireblue has given up playing  :o 

hammer you might be on my hit list but every townie would have one .. it just means I FOS you - barking up the wrong tree or not.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 03:21:56 PM
Ok you keep suspecting then but don't twist my words and posts and put them into another context. No reason for you not to suspect so crack on just the same as I am with you.

All I am saying is this day is dragging on and we need to come together and make some kind of lynch sooner rather than later. I am trying to do this. If for this exact reason that I am accusing, pressuring, questioning people and generally tring to progress the game you think I am sus then fair enough but I would hope to think you can see people more sus than me and use your vote wisely if you are town!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 30, 2008, 03:35:53 PM
eh? at what point is my post defensive? what question have you asked me? let me see, what is my motive? motive of what? asking why your vote patterns are so erratic? asking why you bothered posting 1 an half hours before you changed your vote again because it has transpired you didnt believe in what you were writing in the first place?
you havent asked me a real question have you?... have you simply tries to side step my accusations? erm, I think the answer is yes.


3 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG, Trickpony)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
2 - Wesmancity(Bluestars, HappyAxeman)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)
1 - MasterZulu (mikeblue)
1 - StevenRyals (SirHammer)
1 - Hammersbro (tch)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)

When did i say your post where defensive?? stop putting words in my mouth you fool!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 30, 2008, 03:39:59 PM
Wes I know you are answering Happy Axeman right now but I believe I asked you first and you really haven't answered the question.

I answerd you on page 19 i think it was, here it is

Yes, because my head is spinning and can not decide who to vote i have my sus. on Bluestars, StevenRyals and TCH and carnt decide who to vote first which would be best for the town. It was going to be TCH, but with Bluestars unvote: afro when it should of been me looks like shes not following the game properly. I am waiting for a answer from her before i vote her or TCH.

I unvoted TCH, because i think bluestars has alot to answer for and when she does ill ether vote her or TCH.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 30, 2008, 03:45:31 PM
"Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”  your all going to the dark side  ;)

I completely agree. Some people take this so seriously and actually get angry about it. Chill out everyone!

_______________

Ok you keep suspecting then but don't twist my words and posts and put them into another context. No reason for you not to suspect so crack on just the same as I am with you.

All I am saying is this day is dragging on and we need to come together and make some kind of lynch sooner rather than later. I am trying to do this. If for this exact reason that I am accusing, pressuring, questioning people and generally tring to progress the game you think I am sus then fair enough but I would hope to think you can see people more sus than me and use your vote wisely if you are town!


I agree, I just think the lynch should be a town organised thing instead of relying on the Mod to bail us out. I'd have Mikeblue down as one of my possible townies even though he agreed to the Ryals idea. Not sure whether Hippo is just wrong or something dodgy going on?


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 03:47:19 PM
Seen Masterzulu online and was quite looking forward to a comment or view from him but alas we are not to be graced with a post from him unfortunatly.

That is suspicious if you ask me! Read into it what you like.

Why come on and read and not post with all the interesting posts over the last 24 hours??? Busy or mafia laying low???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 03:51:47 PM
so Ive gone from hiding, to posting too much garbage? jesus christ, I really cant win.  :wall:
If Ive got time I post, i havent got time today and i really should be somewhere else, but ive sat here all morning and now into mid-afternoon and according to mikeblue, all my efforts have been garbage.  :'(

fuck it then, am going out, screw the game, real life is more important.  :-\

Ive just told you how to use the clipboard. its nothing to do with the forum, its your own clipboard accessed via rightclick on the mouse, same as whats used in spreadsheets, Wordproccessors and every where else. lol

you posted a quote from me and a post from mike..  and tried to make it seem like I was contradicting myself..  in the past 15 hours you've been more active than the whole rest of the game..   

now you have one vote, already said it doesnt matter to you, and you say you are going out as in getting lynched?  seems like you're the one contradicting yourself.

holy hell.. another post.. 3 now.. 

and now axeman's post isn't even at the bottom of this page..  at least the game's getting some steam..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 03:55:24 PM
To me at this moment in time everyone is sus. The least sus for me at this moment in time are
SteveRyalls

Why? Because I suggested a different tactic for the town..  one with which you agreed was a good idea, and said you were on board? 

Big slilp there bud..  big slip..

FOS Mikeblue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 03:56:33 PM
Why? Because I suggested a different tactic for the town..  one with which you agreed was a good idea, and said you were on board? 

Big slilp there bud..  big slip..

FOS Mikeblue

wait.. ok.. least sus.. gotcha..  UNFOS Mikeblue  reading to fast..  and the post keep coming  :/
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 30, 2008, 04:11:08 PM
I agree, I just think the lynch should be a town organised thing instead of relying on the Mod to bail us out. I'd have Mikeblue down as one of my possible townies even though he agreed to the Ryals idea. Not sure whether Hippo is just wrong or something dodgy going on?

Interesting. Two options you've given there, as to what's going on. Either i'm wrong, or there's something dodgy going on. So there's no chance that mikeblue is mafia? I know you've said "possible townies" in the second sentence, but the third contradicts that, and you've slipped a bit. Seems like you're mafia, know mikeblue isn't, and are trying to allign yourself?

And let's just say, i didn't actually make any definitive statements about what mikeblue is. I simply noticed something that i found suspicious, explained it, and provided examples. Like he said, why wouldn't i find him suspicious?

Your post makes no sense, Hammer.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 04:17:33 PM
I'd have Mikeblue down as one of my possible townies even though he agreed to the Ryals idea.


Not sure whether Hippo is just wrong or something dodgy going on?

I see what you're saying Hippo, but I couldnt really tell by your post, it took me a minute.. so I've separated the 2 sentences for clarity..

in the first:  Mikeblue is prob town

in the second:  mike blue is defo town and either hippo is wrong or  (insert dodgyness)

not sure about the second statement, it seems slightly sus, but wouldnt 'something dodgy' mean one of you or both of you being evil?  splain your reasoning there..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on September 30, 2008, 04:45:40 PM
FYI whoever said I was Reading and not posting. I'm at work and reading on my iPhone every time I get a couple of minutes. Trying to write any more than a few short sentances on this thing is hard work. So I will have to wait untill I get home to post.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on September 30, 2008, 04:47:59 PM
FYI whoever said I was Reading and not posting. I'm at work and reading on my iPhone every time I get a couple of minutes. Trying to write any more than a few short sentances on this thing is hard work. So I will have to wait untill I get home to post.

Ha ha ok then. A fair explanation I suppose.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 30, 2008, 04:52:13 PM
I see what you're saying Hippo, but I couldnt really tell by your post, it took me a minute.. so I've separated the 2 sentences for clarity..

in the first:  Mikeblue is prob town

in the second:  mike blue is defo town and either hippo is wrong or  (insert dodgyness)

not sure about the second statement, it seems slightly sus, but wouldnt 'something dodgy' mean one of you or both of you being evil?  splain your reasoning there..

Sorry.. are you asking me to explain, or him?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 05:09:27 PM
Sorry.. are you asking me to explain, or him?

you because to me "something dodgy" would imply that one or both of you may be evil.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 30, 2008, 05:16:38 PM
Right im going to vote TCH i still think bluestars is town even though we have been at each others throats but feel that shes invloved in the game and looking for answers. TCH sorry mate the reaction you made at the start of the game still sticks in my mind and im sure you have a evil role some where.

Vote TCH[b/]
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 05:24:33 PM
I unvoted TCH, because i think bluestars has alot to answer for and when she does ill ether vote her or TCH.

Right im going to vote TCH i still think bluestars is town even though we have been at each others throats but feel that shes invloved in the game and looking for answers. TCH sorry mate the reaction you made at the start of the game still sticks in my mind and im sure you have a evil role some where.

Vote TCH[b/]

nuff said
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 30, 2008, 05:28:25 PM
you because to me "something dodgy" would imply that one or both of you may be evil.. 

Well, to me "something dodgy" was him implying i was evil, and the "wrong" bit was implying i was a misguided townie. I was just wondering why there was no third option, in that i might have actually been right to suspect mikeblue. Because, surely he shouldn't know for certain at this stage?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 30, 2008, 05:30:37 PM
Interesting. Two options you've given there, as to what's going on. Either i'm wrong, or there's something dodgy going on. So there's no chance that mikeblue is mafia? I know you've said "possible townies" in the second sentence, but the third contradicts that, and you've slipped a bit. Seems like you're mafia, know mikeblue isn't, and are trying to allign yourself?

And let's just say, i didn't actually make any definitive statements about what mikeblue is. I simply noticed something that i found suspicious, explained it, and provided examples. Like he said, why wouldn't i find him suspicious?

Your post makes no sense, Hammer.

Just probing you, seeing how you would react to abit of criticism since I think you've had a fairly easy ride so far.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 30, 2008, 05:32:57 PM
While we're posting about wes' randomness. This amused/confused me earlier:

bwwwwaaaaahaahhhhaaaaaaahahahahah!!

all defensive! please im asking you a question re: your post, whats wrong in that?

When did i say your post where defensive?? stop putting words in my mouth you fool!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 05:47:52 PM
Just probing you

uncalled for!!  lol   
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 05:49:14 PM
so the question is then, is wes having a hard time keeping his thoughts organized for what reason? he's mafia and not digging and analyzing posts like they are trying to find something, or he's behind and cant seem to catch up.. 

cant see being behind as an excuse for flip-floping around with opinions.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 30, 2008, 06:10:23 PM
All that shows is that i am reading everything word for word, wasnt that what you said i wasn't doing in previous posts?

Clearly this isnt the case. Maybe Steven is onto something, and since no one has commented on my suspicions of Steven then this is the best we are gonna get. Heres it all compressed into nice little post nuggests...

Quote from: wesmancity
Quote from: wesmancity on Today at 03:39:59 PM
I unvoted TCH, because i think bluestars has alot to answer for and when she does ill ether vote her or TCH.
Quote from: wesmancity
Quote from: wesmancity on Today at 05:16:38 PM
Right im going to vote TCH i still think bluestars is town even though we have been at each others throats but feel that shes invloved in the game and looking for answers. TCH sorry mate the reaction you made at the start of the game still sticks in my mind and im sure you have a evil role some where.

Vote TCH

 :o

Quote from: wesmancity
Quote from: wesmancity on Today at 12:22:40 PM
bwwwwaaaaahaahhhhaa aaaaahahahahah!!

all defensive! please im asking you a question re: your post, whats wrong in that?
Quote from: wesmancity

When did i say your post where defensive?? stop putting words in my mouth you fool!

 :(

Two clear examples of flipflopping and backtracking although both seem just quite careless. Tied in with a claim with reading all posts. Always dodgy when your caught in a lie or misdirection, but not enough to hang a man on?

However, I still feel that i'm onto something with Steven who is still ducking me so maybe he is now trying to bring up this minor thing to go on wes.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 06:30:42 PM
However, I still feel that i'm onto something with Steven who is still ducking me so maybe he is now trying to bring up this minor thing to go on wes.

You're not onto anything hammer.  what questions are you even asking..  you made some points and i thought they were crap... maybe I missed it, but i didnt see any questions there, or really anything worth responding to.
I'll answer whatever questions you have, just post them.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 06:37:51 PM
My main three suspects

Stevenryals, In my opinion tryed to manipulate the town by setting up Miasg as a patsy to pick someone to lynch leaving us with no information and chaos in day two. Instead of answering my accusation, he threatened to modkill himself, which in my opinion might be a bluff.

Heres that something else Steven that isnt a modkill or a deadline!

if this is the post you are referring to Hammer, I responded to that in my first post day..

I like these mafia games and think they're fun... but when they drag on, i'd rather modkill myself and be done with it.. the game has picked up a bit now and seems to be moving at least, but for a while there it was nothing.. it was becoming a bore, and I was close to doing what I did in the last game (modkill), which if you remember right, I waiting until an opportune moment, and it exposed hippo for his evilness in the last game..  so yes, I would totally be willing to do that if it comes to it. 

as far as manipulating the town, thats' crap.. you haven't responded to any of my post explaining why this tactic would have worked brilliantly if it was executed correctly.  no need now as the game seems to be shaping a bit, but it's still dragging, and if I have to chose getting my work done or the mafia game, i'll chose the one that pays me  :)     
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 30, 2008, 06:40:48 PM
FAO the skimmer HIPPO please read and pay attention

First of all this is what Happy said to me after i unvoted TCH and fos'ed Bluestars

@wes, it hasnt bothered you so far about voting and changing your vote at a whim, so why have you suddenly gone all hesitant when your the only person still to carry a vote? ???

This is how i replyed.

Yes, because my head is spinning and can not decide who to vote i have my sus. on Bluestars, StevenRyals and TCH and carnt decide who to vote first which would be best for the town. It was going to be TCH, but with Bluestars unvote: afro when it should of been me looks like shes not following the game properly. I am waiting for a answer from her before i vote her or TCH.

NOW HIPPO PAY ATTENTION, Happy said to me that im erratic and getting all defensive( I shall highlight for you so you can skim read like you have been doing all game)

I'm not rushing you, I'm asking why your voting is so erratic? I havent voted you, yet your getting all defensivee Laserblue has been.

and then a mere 1 an half hours later and a sinlge post from Afro and then Bluestars, you post...
I can understand your question to bluestars, but why remove your vote on TCH, to  only fos bluestars?
What youve done is say your own previous post was pointless and a throw-a-away comment, and just there to show your on the board. Maybe you are mafia and trying desperatly to make it look like your town.

Fos means nothing as everyone should be under the 'finger of suspicion', and no-one bothers counting them cause there worthless anyway. if 3 fosses=1 vote, then yeah, there usefull.

tbh, i dont reckon there is anything too sinister about Bluestars mistake, maybe she was rushed and her head got muddled, i'm sure ive done it many times in past mafia games. Maybe Godfather Steve has been defending her so vigourously knowing full well that she is town giving him browny points upon her death. Maybe Wes also knows she is town, and is trying hard to make something stick to her whilst trying to make the godfathers shit whiter than white in the process. ???

UNVOTE LASERBLUE, VOTE WESMANCITY

So this is how i have responed. i'll break it down for you "Me all defensive" hes the one whos calling me defensive, im just acting on what hes just said.

bwwwwaaaaahaahhhhaaaaaaahahahahah!!

all defensive! please im asking you a question re: your post, whats wrong in that?

Then Happy makes out that i called him defensive, Hippo are you following this

eh? at what point is my post defensive? what question have you asked me? let me see, what is my motive? motive of what? asking why your vote patterns are so erratic? asking why you bothered posting 1 an half hours before you changed your vote again because it has transpired you didnt believe in what you were writing in the first place?
you havent asked me a real question have you?... have you simply tries to side step my accusations? erm, I think the answer is yes.

So i then answer him saying this


When did i say your post where defensive?? stop putting words in my mouth you fool!

AND then you pipe up whit this!!, please tell me you understand now ffs!

While we're posting about wes' randomness. This amused/confused me earlier:

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on September 30, 2008, 06:47:36 PM
PLEASE TELL ME YOU, HAMMER AND STEVE UNDERSTAND AS YOU ALL NEED TO READ WHAT I SAID CAREFULLY.

Now im leaving work soon and will not be able to post till tomorrow as my computer at home is being fixed. So ill catch up in the morning and post when i get back home.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on September 30, 2008, 06:56:16 PM
Oh i see. Calm down.

People say i twist words? you didn't say "me all defensive", like you've written in your little explanation. You wrote "all defensive!". How'm i supposed to know you meant "all defensive?". They're entirely different things, and it would have made more sense had you actually written what you meant.

But yeah, that's fair enough. You're still being very erratic though.



Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on September 30, 2008, 06:58:09 PM

How I am I one of your main suspicions? Instead of saying this can you offer some reason or explanation to these statements/accusations.

I have been putting valid points together on people and backing up what I have been saying. I have sniffed around and tried to get reactions and find some decent evidence to vote people. Exactly how is this pro active town play suspicious to you???

Can you please explain?






Ive just got back from work & tried to take in the recent posts & to be honest a few pages ago I thought I'd cracked it... I had at least 3  or four peeps I thought were evil & 3 or 4 I thought where town
I wrote my reasons on quite a long post (including the reasons I found you sus )

The peeps I found most sus then where tch, axeman & you ...... since then I have had my doubts as to whether you & axeman are both evil (well mafia together anyway) unless your both putting on a good act?
like I said I'm unsure  about you 2 now.... but the reply from tch was not really that convincing he relies on something that happened outside the game board so there's no way of knowing if he's telling the truth or not?

as for the post earlier on not saying much/seeming strange ...thats probably due me being at work at the time .... I went on to try & catch up reading the posts & didn't have a lot of time... I thought axeman was looking like he was going to loose it... hence the chill pill thing(it seemed funny at the time).... but he also posted 2 things about mike that really stuck out to me .. the first one was i think that mike & maybe others where being aggresive  .... I think axeman has been as aggresive in some of his posts .... the other was stuff about mike messing up his posts , which struck a nerve with me as I struggle with technology sometime & as everyone knows mess my posts up due to that.. I don't really find anything sus about it personally & it looked like he was grasping a bit.

 there have been 4 new posts since I started writing ... but I'm gonna post anyway.

christ another one just stop it & let me post ... please
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on September 30, 2008, 07:03:57 PM
if this is the post you are referring to Hammer, I responded to that in my first post day..

I like these mafia games and think they're fun... but when they drag on, i'd rather modkill myself and be done with it.. the game has picked up a bit now and seems to be moving at least, but for a while there it was nothing.. it was becoming a bore, and I was close to doing what I did in the last game (modkill), which if you remember right, I waiting until an opportune moment, and it exposed hippo for his evilness in the last game..  so yes, I would totally be willing to do that if it comes to it. 

as far as manipulating the town, thats' crap.. you haven't responded to any of my post explaining why this tactic would have worked brilliantly if it was executed correctly.  no need now as the game seems to be shaping a bit, but it's still dragging, and if I have to chose getting my work done or the mafia game, i'll chose the one that pays me  :)     

Yeah fair enough, but how on earth is this game dragging? The pages are flying past, and theres loads of action. It should be hard to get lynched on Day One. It shouldnt be easy which is what Modkills, and Deadlines make it.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 07:10:34 PM
that's why I said
Quote
"the game has picked up a bit now and seems to be moving, but for a while there it was nothing"
  meaning nothing was happening... which is bad and dreadfully boring.. now it's moving, and not boring..  dig?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Quig on September 30, 2008, 10:55:03 PM
Sorry. Mates parents are away. Having a multi-day party.

Once again, Steven is being a twat. Why? It'll ruin the game. More than a lurker. Tempted to just vote for him but he's prob town.

Wesman is acting completly susprisious with all his random blabbering.
FOS: Wesmancity

But my main vote is going to Vote: hippo purely because of him once again manipulating people words against them.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on September 30, 2008, 10:59:18 PM
Sorry. Mates parents are away. Having a multi-day party.

Once again, Steven is being a twat. Why? It'll ruin the game. More than a lurker. Tempted to just vote for him but he's prob town.

Wesman is acting completly susprisious with all his random blabbering.
FOS: Wesmancity

But my main vote is going to Vote: hippo purely because of him once again manipulating people words against them.

Unvote Axeman     

Vote hammerbro


for 3 reasons.. 1) because I'm a twat    2) who are "them"? townies?   3) you're useless to the game party or not, you've only posted about 10 times in 22 pages.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 01, 2008, 12:35:40 AM
wait.. ok.. least sus.. gotcha..  UNFOS Mikeblue  reading to fast..  and the post keep coming  :/
bet you wished you could delete that post steven .. reacting before reading
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 01, 2008, 12:52:37 AM
I do think hamerbro is up there as mafia .. and laserblue I can't see how you think afro isn't (unless you know - you seem to sure)  .. but there is one person who is just flying through forgotten about .. and I'm certain he is mafia .. Yorkshireblue .. hasn't been on for days .. hasn't responded to questions .. hasn't helped town once .. I've made an educated guess .. and I also believe others haven't targeted him as he's firming more by the day as mafia godfather .. so called "experts" in this game have hardly mentioned him at all .. let alone question his posts and then lack of ..

I was against this earlier but I think we have a enough info now to assist us on day 2 and I'm ready to take a stand and try to lead us forward .. I implore all townies to vote for YorkshireBlue - take the risk - and hope like hell I'm right and then work on his buddies on day 2.  Worst case scenario is we lose town who isn't on and helping and i'm again suspected .. but unless I die tonight I'm 100% certain Jack Bauer will not be dead tonight so there is no reason not to believe me.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 01, 2008, 02:39:59 AM
Sorry for being absent over the weekend, it was quite a messy one. Had a quick scan (will have a proper read and post, later in the afternoon) and people seem to be saying YB isn't suspicious? Bizarre.

He accused MIASG and voted to start with, fair enough. But then after he'd been outed as Bauer, he came back on, apologised for his original poor reason for voting, but rather than altering his vote, he just changed the reason to something else. THEN, when he was told this was suspicious, he removed it. How can that possibly NOT be seen as dodgy?

yeah YB has been sus, hes the most obvious vote at this stage...



You mean that?  you mean a one vote doesnt matter?  guess we need something that holds more weight to get this game going..  which brings me back to my previous idea..  if we dont have a deadline, then we have to have something else..  otherwise I'll bring this day to an end myself..

very interesting choice of words here Steve... I missed it the first time I read it but since going back over the posts that seems hell sus mate, want to elaborate on that one ? I could read that as you having a power role or some sort or you are the mafia godfather and your other members could follow your vote so which is it ? dont role claim either like the MIASG  :cowboy:

This post makes a lot of sense to me. On the whole mafia having two votes on one peron thing. As I think Trick Pony is most probably town at this point and looking at the list of votes Yorky and Zulu are voting trick pony. This is sus to me as I though they were both sus anyways so I'm going to UNVOTE TCH (FOR NOW) AND VOTE YORKSHIREBLUE

Similar to what I was thinking Mike, im about 80% on YB being mafia, same as TCH, im not sure on Zulu yet but his posts and reasons for voting me are garbage, just because i voted miasg when the day started doesnt mean im mafia you fool Zulu, I believe you can only see that side because thats all you want to see because your most probably mafia...

Happy's reactions are getting similar to the game i modded which he modkilled himself due to the frustration of people not believing him being town, which he was.

His behaviour is very similar to that so i believe that he is a town. His arguement about being given a late role rings true. When i've added people late they rarely get a good role, either standard townie or mafia henchman depending on the numbers.


trying to defend Happy to much here TCH, if or when you are finally found out to be mafia this may bring Happy into the limelight... until this post I havent been sus on Happy.

well i would assume your reasoning behind TP is partly down to what i have posted in the past, so i can't see why i am still considered suspect.

I see your talking about the "considered suspect" part here TCH, are you just offended that everyone hasnt worked out that your evil mafia ... you poor fella  :laugh:

I do think hamerbro is up there as mafia .. and laserblue I can't see how you think afro isn't (unless you know - you seem to sure)  .. but there is one person who is just flying through forgotten about .. and I'm certain he is mafia .. Yorkshireblue .. hasn't been on for days .. hasn't responded to questions .. hasn't helped town once .. I've made an educated guess .. and I also believe others haven't targeted him as he's firming more by the day as mafia godfather .. so called "experts" in this game have hardly mentioned him at all .. let alone question his posts and then lack of ..

I was against this earlier but I think we have a enough info now to assist us on day 2 and I'm ready to take a stand and try to lead us forward .. I implore all townies to vote for YorkshireBlue - take the risk - and hope like hell I'm right and then work on his buddies on day 2.  Worst case scenario is we lose town who isn't on and helping and i'm again suspected .. but unless I die tonight I'm 100% certain Jack Bauer will not be dead tonight so there is no reason not to believe me.

I agree MIASG, YB hasnt said anything which helps the town. It will be interesting to see who else changes votes, I cant see TCH, or Zulu changing their votes to YB which will cement them for day 2.

Now more importantly, should we work out who to investigate, save, roleblock ? all with out role claiming ... ie do we save or investigate MIASG ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 01, 2008, 03:03:38 AM
bet you wished you could delete that post steven .. reacting before reading

no, I read, I just mis-read
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 01, 2008, 03:04:59 AM
I implore all townies to vote for YorkshireBlue - take the risk - and hope like hell I'm right and then work on his buddies on day 2.  Worst case scenario is we lose town who isn't on and helping and i'm again suspected .. but unless I die tonight I'm 100% certain Jack Bauer will not be dead tonight so there is no reason not to believe me.

this is hillarious..  if you can't see irony in this post compared to the heat I've taken ...  lol  quite funny actually
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 01, 2008, 03:07:52 AM
very interesting choice of words here Steve... I missed it the first time I read it but since going back over the posts that seems hell sus mate, want to elaborate on that one ? I could read that as you having a power role or some sort or you are the mafia godfather and your other members could follow your vote so which is it ? dont role claim either like the MIASG  :cowboy:

well everyone else understood what I was saying... it was a reference to a modkill..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 01, 2008, 03:10:48 AM
MIASG, I'm not convinced on yorkshire blue..  how can anyone ever be..  he's erratic, as usual, he's not making sense, as usual, he's on and off as usual, he goes missing for days as usual..  this is him every game, town or mafia..  no telling which..  probably a decent 50/50 for a 1st day lynch tho..  but seems we're waiting on a sure shot.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 01, 2008, 03:27:02 AM
but seems we're waiting on a sure shot.. 

don't think its going to happen Steve, an educated guess is the best we can do as there is not one prime suspect.



Similar to what I was thinking Mike, im about 80% on YB being mafia, same as TCH,
trying to defend Happy to much here TCH, if or when you are finally found out to be mafia this may bring Happy into the limelight... until this post I havent been sus on Happy.

I see your talking about the "considered suspect" part here TCH, are you just offended that everyone hasnt worked out that your evil mafia ... you poor fella  :laugh:

I agree MIASG, YB hasnt said anything which helps the town. It will be interesting to see who else changes votes, I cant see TCH, or Zulu changing their votes to YB which will cement them for day 2.

Back to your old tricks, i should have kept quiet and let people lynch you days ago. That last paragraph is double edged, if i do vote for Yorkshire your say it's because you wrote this so just bandwaggoning and if i don't your say i'm evil.

I'm sticking with Hammersbro at the moment
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 01, 2008, 03:39:40 AM
this is hillarious..  if you can't see irony in this post compared to the heat I've taken ...  lol  quite funny actually
I wasn't happy about it a few days ago but really I've made my bed so I should sleep in it.  This game has been going for 15+ days now with 24 (ironic) pages .. Things have changed since your post with alot of attacks.  You were all gung ho about it before and my vote hasn't changed.   If I am unfortunatly wrong then I'd call that back tracking .. would you?   How can he seem more townie than not?  I've put a brief desc on all his posts before but feel free to click on his profile and read them all for yourself - all 11 of them - the last 2 saying nothing like the first 5 (http://happyaxeman.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=812;sa=showPosts (http://happyaxeman.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=812;sa=showPosts))

Anyhoo if this doesn't get him out and playing nothing will.  Maybe YB is resigned to his fate since he knows I'm Jack.   I'm the biggest target at night so if anything I have the most to lose after yorkshire blue.  the mafia will have us going around in circles unless we find that way forward.

anyone else find it funny when TP tries help town?  you agree with everyone offering no new opinions except "I've  changed my mind again so-and-so if def mafia and we'll get your mates after you"  is there anyone you haven't said that too this game ?  your posts on suspected people make me believe them !
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 01, 2008, 03:44:31 AM
if i do vote for Yorkshire your say it's because you wrote this so just bandwaggoning and if i don't your say i'm evil.
We have the vote count up to where we are now and that could still speak volumes in the days to come.  It is a bandwagon and I've asked the rest of the town to follow me .. and mafia will follow so the end vote in this won't be looked at too greatly.  you obviously don't want to .. not a double edged sword then really is it.  Just say I'm not following him - sticking with hammerbro thanks.  it's your perogative.   
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 01, 2008, 03:52:40 AM
don't think its going to happen Steve, an educated guess is the best we can do as there is not one prime suspect.


Back to your old tricks, i should have kept quiet and let people lynch you days ago. That last paragraph is double edged, if i do vote for Yorkshire your say it's because you wrote this so just bandwaggoning and if i don't your say i'm evil.

I'm sticking with Hammersbro at the moment


because your mafia with YB... and a few days ago there was more heat on me than MIASG and he role claimed.. if thats all you have just vote YB and get it over with.. you will be the main suspect at the start of day two anyway so either way...  
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 01, 2008, 03:57:29 AM
i generally don't last past the first day so any play on day two is a bonus for me
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 01, 2008, 03:58:30 AM
We have the vote count up to where we are now and that could still speak volumes in the days to come.  It is a bandwagon and I've asked the rest of the town to follow me .. and mafia will follow so the end vote in this won't be looked at too greatly.  you obviously don't want to .. not a double edged sword then really is it.  Just say I'm not following him - sticking with hammerbro thanks.  it's your perogative.  

How many Votes does Yorkshire have now ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 01, 2008, 06:26:27 AM
don't think its going to happen Steve, an educated guess is the best we can do as there is not one prime suspect.


Back to your old tricks, i should have kept quiet and let people lynch you days ago. That last paragraph is double edged, if i do vote for Yorkshire your say it's because you wrote this so just bandwaggoning and if i don't your say i'm evil.

I'm sticking with Hammersbro at the moment


well you arnt going to name one of your own now are you TCH
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 01, 2008, 07:11:04 AM
How many Votes does Yorkshire have now ?
I'm thinking still 3 .. me, hippo, and :clown:  .. mikeblue had but went off attacking others .. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 01, 2008, 11:36:49 AM
the reason i am not posting is because this is getting boring we just seem to be going round in circles
im sticking with my vote on tp all his posts are just crap and pointless
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 01, 2008, 11:44:48 AM
the reason i am not posting is because this is getting boring we just seem to be going round in circles
im sticking with my vote on tp all his posts are just crap and pointless
thanks for helping to prove my point ... what excitement were you after with your posts yorkshireblue?  sorry if the rest of us didn't hype it up enough for you. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 01, 2008, 12:00:26 PM
unvote tch vote tp .. I'm sick of that idiot now.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 01, 2008, 12:33:10 PM
Hammerbros actions arnt actually suspisous really. He has come online after a few days and made a very inflammatory post to Steven, but would he really have done that if he had a decent role that he was trying to keep underwraps. Seems a frustrated townie to me.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 01, 2008, 01:36:10 PM
Yes it was, it was after a multi-day party, he would post anything without inhibitions at that point..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 01, 2008, 01:43:56 PM

I was against this earlier but I think we have a enough info now to assist us on day 2 and I'm ready to take a stand and try to lead us forward .. I implore all townies to vote for YorkshireBlue - take the risk - and hope like hell I'm right and then work on his buddies on day 2.  Worst case scenario is we lose town who isn't on and helping and i'm again suspected .. but unless I die tonight I'm 100% certain Jack Bauer will not be dead tonight so there is no reason not to believe me.

If you are Jack I've got a feeling you are going to regret this .... I'm not jumping on this bandwagon ... because it will be full of evil scumm
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 01, 2008, 02:41:44 PM
I completely disagree SirHammer....how can Hammersbro get a "pass" as a bored player and yet YB doesn't and let's get real...I think he's actually posted more! Which is not to say it has any logical content....but it's going out on a limb more than Hammersbro....I agree that some players that don't participate fully can be made out to be either town or mafia...but I'm sorry absolutely have even more suspicions of him than YB...who is always impossible to follow to some degree as that is his play....he'll say something completely inflammatory do a rash vote and then leave....I've been the subject of it in other games. I am not saying I know he's town or mafia...but to give Hammersbro a "pass" as townie is well suspect because he's earned no more confidence if you ask me than YB or even Masterzulu.

sorry...still reading but that just stuck out to me.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 01, 2008, 03:04:14 PM
I have yet to vote...I had wes and then unvoted to see his response....I do find him odd...but he's been odd last few games and is always quite aggressive....as far as a player though I think that it is hard for me to argue against on day one which is most cases is a sheer guess for me to simply vote for a player because he's actively questioning....he's active and in the game and something about that leans me in most cases to want to keep them around because if they are mafia well...the truth will come to light...and if a townie they are doing their job and helping the town...and those that aren't active well....seem entirely easily mafia.

VOTE MASTERZULU....I'm thinking it is possible that you are first time mafia and that could explain your reluctance to post any truly active information in this game. Hammersbro, yorkshireblue and Afroboy were close seconds in my mind, but when I look at the content....those are at least brining up points and votes and whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant at this point in the game. At some point we have to vote and have to get this game progressing. I'd yet to vote and without votes I fear this day will drag on for a lifetime!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 01, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
unvote tch vote tp .. I'm sick of that idiot now.

poor excuse u fool your still piss off from the previous game because you cant see whats right in front of you, you just look like mafia unvoting one of your own...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 01, 2008, 04:34:33 PM
I completely disagree SirHammer....how can Hammersbro get a "pass" as a bored player and yet YB doesn't and let's get real...I think he's actually posted more! Which is not to say it has any logical content....but it's going out on a limb more than Hammersbro....I agree that some players that don't participate fully can be made out to be either town or mafia...but I'm sorry absolutely have even more suspicions of him than YB...who is always impossible to follow to some degree as that is his play....he'll say something completely inflammatory do a rash vote and then leave....I've been the subject of it in other games. I am not saying I know he's town or mafia...but to give Hammersbro a "pass" as townie is well suspect because he's earned no more confidence if you ask me than YB or even Masterzulu.

sorry...still reading but that just stuck out to me.

Yeah this is based on a personal knowledge of my brother, based on anything ingame then he looks suspicious, just based on personal knowledge it doesnt seem like he is. For all means vote for him though if you think he looks dodgy, just explaining why im not so sure.


If you are Jack I've got a feeling you are going to regret this .... I'm not jumping on this bandwagon ... because it will be full of evil scum[

Damn, I was waiting to see who would happily jump on the bandwagon.



Unvote:Steven, its a no-go area clearly
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 01, 2008, 06:17:00 PM
OK guys, sorry about this but I have been busy at work for the past couple of days (full time jobs suck eh? :D) so I haven't had time to update the vote counts recently and it looks as if around 10 pages have past since I last updated it.

Tomorrow I do have a day off work though so I will definitely get it fully updated sometime tomorrow. Can't believe it's been 25 pages already. Lynch someone please :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 01, 2008, 08:41:51 PM
Afroboy

I know axeman asked a few pages ago, but you didn't answer. How do you know the people he's putting pressure on are the wrong ones? Fair enough you can speak for yourself, but you're speaking for others here as well, and telling us they're innocent. Why? How do you know?
I don’t know. It’s just my opinion that there are more suspicious looking people.

Unvote:Steven, its a no-go area clearly
What do you mean ???

Unvote bluestars for now, she is still looking suspicious but my vote obviously isn’t counting for much there. Like hippo said earlier there are a lot of votes spread out and it doesn’t achieve much.

TP: I still think he is mafia because as soon as he found out miasg was town he was quick to get on his side and get away from the argument so it would like he’s not evil

Mzulu: Suspicious simply because he is lurtking round… ok he has had reasons for not posting but I still think he could do more to help by asking questions of people. Also his last post was this….
FYI whoever said I was Reading and not posting. I'm at work and reading on my iPhone every time I get a couple of minutes. Trying to write any more than a few short sentances on this thing is hard work. So I will have to wait until I get home to post.
Fair enough but you haven’t been back on to post, like you said you would.

A lot of people are saying Yorkshire blue looks mafia at the moment, even though he hasn’t really defended himself, I am pretty sure he is good.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 01, 2008, 09:07:18 PM

Similar to what I was thinking Mike, im about 80% on YB being mafia, same as TCH, im not sure on Zulu yet but his posts and reasons for voting me are garbage, just because i voted miasg when the day started doesnt mean im mafia you fool Zulu, I believe you can only see that side because thats all you want to see because your most probably mafia...


LOL I'm the one posting garbage am I? I've read nothing but from you so far, I'm standing by what I said, don't try and twist my words, I didn't vote for you becuase of your early vote for Miasg, I voted for you because of your sudden about face once presented with Miasgs roleclaim. Looks to me as if thats what a mafia would do, you went all out to try and make out he was mafia, but as soon as he flipped it on you with his role claim, you had no option but to try and side with him.

I have yet to vote...I had wes and then unvoted to see his response....I do find him odd...but he's been odd last few games and is always quite aggressive....as far as a player though I think that it is hard for me to argue against on day one which is most cases is a sheer guess for me to simply vote for a player because he's actively questioning....he's active and in the game and something about that leans me in most cases to want to keep them around because if they are mafia well...the truth will come to light...and if a townie they are doing their job and helping the town...and those that aren't active well....seem entirely easily mafia.

VOTE MASTERZULU....I'm thinking it is possible that you are first time mafia and that could explain your reluctance to post any truly active information in this game. Hammersbro, yorkshireblue and Afroboy were close seconds in my mind, but when I look at the content....those are at least brining up points and votes and whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant at this point in the game. At some point we have to vote and have to get this game progressing. I'd yet to vote and without votes I fear this day will drag on for a lifetime!

If voting for me was supposed to envoke a reaction, congrats you succeeded, if it wasn't and you truly think I may be mafia then I'd like to know how you can substantiate this aside from my lack of posting, on that subject I've been trying to keep on top of reading all the posts but I'm finding it very difficult to play this game at the same level the rest of you are.
I can totally see how it may look and heck you may want to get rid of me as I've hardly been a productive member of the town but all you are going to do is weaken the towns position in this game for the wrong reason.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 01, 2008, 09:12:10 PM
I don’t know. It’s just my opinion that there are more suspicious looking people.
What do you mean ???

Unvote bluestars for now, she is still looking suspicious but my vote obviously isn’t counting for much there. Like hippo said earlier there are a lot of votes spread out and it doesn’t achieve much.

TP: I still think he is mafia because as soon as he found out miasg was town he was quick to get on his side and get away from the argument so it would like he’s not evil

Mzulu: Suspicious simply because he is lurtking round… ok he has had reasons for not posting but I still think he could do more to help by asking questions of people. Also his last post was this….Fair enough but you haven’t been back on to post, like you said you would.

A lot of people are saying Yorkshire blue looks mafia at the moment, even though he hasn’t really defended himself, I am pretty sure he is good.

hehe I was posting just as you wrote that, as for lurking, I've been reading over the posts quite a bit whilst I've been at work, but apart from TP i'm struggling to find anything suspicious, heck you may as well just pull a number out of a hat.

I did say I would post that night but life once again got in the way, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 01, 2008, 10:18:39 PM
That last paragraph is double edged, if i do vote for Yorkshire your say it's because you wrote this so just bandwaggoning and if i don't your say i'm evil.
If you are Jack I've got a feeling you are going to regret this .... I'm not jumping on this bandwagon ... because it will be full of evil scumm
Damn, I was waiting to see who would happily jump on the bandwagon.
A lot of people are saying Yorkshire blue looks mafia at the moment, even though he hasn’t really defended himself, I am pretty sure he is good.

@laserblue - why would I regret it ... and if he's mafia there will be a few of you jumping on .. the whole point in to move forward.
@SirHammer - why won't you jump on the bandwagon?  you think he's town?
@TCH - I think your post has scared everyone from voting for YB thus effectivley saving him for now
@Afroboy - how in God's name do you believe that  ??? did you go back and read his posts?  did any of you? 

the reason i am not posting is because this is getting boring we just seem to be going round in circles
im sticking with my vote on tp all his posts are just crap and pointless
He didn't defend himself .. he said he was bored .. we are going around in circles becuase your not helping .. your not convincing me otherwise .. you can't possibly be town. 

Is everyone scared that they will vote off a townie?  or if they join this vote they will be labeled mafia scum?  well if I'm right that's 2 problems you won't have to face in day 2.  All YB has done now is say - I don't give shit .. everyone appears to be "scared" so no more votes appear likely (and he's leading the count with 3) so the mafia will now target someone else (not saying they are townies but using an example) say steven, TP, MZ or a wes to move away from YB.  It's happened already !  How can someone sit there and type - oh he's crazy, erratic etc but I have a feeling he's good  ??? the mind truely boggles.  The mafia already know your townie so there will be no surprises for them if you vote or not.   the longer this goes on the more power mafia will have as they will pick on someone else and all magically vote off a real townie - maybe one with night actions.  If YB was this he's be on, fighting, and more interested than he already is .. he'd be at least saying I'm wrong .. he's given up.  vote him off.  it's not a mafia bandwagon it's a townie bandwagon. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 01, 2008, 10:52:18 PM
fu*k it.. unvote evil as sin hammerbro
vote yorkshireblue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 01, 2008, 11:03:28 PM
Question to Miasg

As the person who knows them both best on the game & only accepted Town player

Who do you think is more likley to be evil ...

TCH or TP?

everybody else can answer this to.... I would like everybody's input but especially Miasg



 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 01, 2008, 11:17:27 PM
to miasg...... sorry didn't answer your question first there are two reasons ...

Please consider this please read to the end ... he always plays like this you havent found him so sus before.. so why now.. could it be the fact that you have such an important character & he went after you.... that's made you examine his posts carefully?

the second is that & I maybe reading this wrong but I beleive someone is trying to tell you something, but you are dismissing it..

I'm going to try to move on know I hope This is the last I'm going to post on the YB subject ... like I said I maybe wrong & end up looking daft .. but I doubt it.


another question for you please apart from yb who do you find most suspicious?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 02, 2008, 12:05:13 AM
Actually, MIASG. I think that you've convinced me the other way on Yorkie with your last post. So unvote Yorkshire Blue.

FOUR people you've quoted, all seeming to indicate they're pretty sure YB is innocent.

There's no question he has looked dodgy, and he definitely hasn't posted in the same way either. Okay, he's made as much sense as he usually does, but there's at least one post that was 5 times the length i've ever seen from him. And i've highlighted the dodgy thing's he's said and done elsewhere. But i don't think i'm right now.

If we were right, there would be more agreement on the points about his suspiciousness, from the mafia themselves, and probably a few more votes by now. They'd want to be seen as going along with the lynching of someone evil, to clear themselves for the forthcoming days.

What has gone on with YB, is more similar to what i think would happen if he was a townie. People warning against it, distancing themselves from it. Making sure that if it does happen, they're as far away from the blame as is possible for tomorrow.

The mafia aren't generally the ones who vote for the townies on day one. It's the townies themselves. Because townies have no idea. The mafia are able to make calculated moves (because they have all of the knowledge), to ensure they look good, however the day turns out. If we lynch a mafia member, the mafia themselves will have voted for them. If we don't, they won't.

Anyway, long story short. I don't think he's mafia, because of how he has been openly defended, in what i believe to be a calculated way.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 02, 2008, 12:09:57 AM
that's not true Hippo, i think Yorkshire's suss and might have voted for him apart from TP's comment.

The others are more against band wagoning not saying he's innocent
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 02, 2008, 12:14:58 AM
Question to MiasgAs the person who knows them both best on the game & only accepted Town player Who do you think is more likley to be evil ...TCH or TP? everybody else can answer this to.... I would like everybody's input but especially Miasg
 They both could be .. they both may not .. but your question who do I consider more .. I'd have to say TCH.   He's a calculating player and his eagerness to post things about only being 2 characters in all series makes me think hmmm especially since he admited about trying to hold back a bit of info on TP until it suited him.  Yes the mafia might have looked up wikipedia but since they knew I wasn't mafia they might not have.  He also sat back for a while to escape the limelight .. then again TP admited he did this on purpose.  yes he couldn't post at home but he could at work so I don't buy into that excuse 1 bit for not being around.. then when I ask for townies to follow me he posts a double edged sword quote which I feel scared alot of people into not voting for YB thsus creating that doubt.  If that was indeed his strategy then bravo it's worked so far.  2 more posts - i'll post anyway

TP just plays to get me - admited it .. since then he gives the allusion of helping the town although I think he causes more damage then good.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 02, 2008, 12:27:08 AM
he always plays like this you havent found him so sus before.. so why now.. could it be the fact that you have such an important character & he went after you.... that's made you examine his posts carefully?
I've said his posts are erratic and yes he did vote for me for line spacing .. but when I was outed he kept going and only back tracked later .. how is he helping me decide otherwise? 

the second is that & I maybe reading this wrong but I beleive someone is trying to tell you something, but you are dismissing it.. another question for you please apart from yb who do you find most suspicious?

maybe I am dismissing it .. maybe I haven't seen it .. I don't know who to trust so I'm trusting myself.  I find everyone else suspicious .. why would I not.  if I had to list a few I'm most suspicious of .. well I believe I've done this a few times but here are some of them again .. Afro, Sir Hammer, Hammerbro, Happy Axeman, TCH - funnily enough most of them seem to have said YB is prob innocent. 

what about you then laserblue... can you please show me the courtesy and tell me your list and possibly why ? 

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 02, 2008, 12:46:50 AM
What has gone on with YB, is more similar to what i think would happen if he was a townie. People warning against it, distancing themselves from it. Making sure that if it does happen, they're as far away from the blame as is possible for tomorrow.
is this what you are doing?  you had voted for him as long as I had .. and for the same reasons .. apart from what others say which you cannot take at face value because you have no idea how many of them are mafia or not .. out of the 4 people that I highlighted how many of them do you think are possible mafia ?  I'm thinking 2 or 3.

I'm being strongly urged to unvote him .. but with no valid reasons that I can see apart from trust me. 

everyone thought I was mafia early on and it was only be coming out that stopped it .. I was accuesd of line spacing, focusing on TP, being mafia conspiracy with TP, claiming a thought process (which I started), and just being suss. 

going back to that original thought (sorry steve  ;) ) .. what if there are 2 mafia cells and 1 mafia godfather .. if mafia godfather get's killed the mafia cells (who don't know each other) have to work independantly  .. it's straw clutching but plausable ..

If so many people are now agaist it that would mean that a few townies aren't sure - so yorkshireblue please come out and play .. stop your boredom by participating .. if you are good you now have the 2nd biggest target on your back (instead of the biggest mafia target from me) so get out and help and stop bitching about going around in circles. 

For now my vote stands as it is still my vote and i'm not entorely convinced from arguements put forward.  Steven thanks for helping me out but feel free to go back on hammerbro.

The townie bandwagon was shot dead before it started .. by townies it would seem.  I've never played a game so fat though where so many townies knew who other townies were before .. usually 2 mason's but not what seems 4 or 5
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 02, 2008, 01:09:10 AM
.. Afro, Sir Hammer, Hammerbro, Happy Axeman, TCH - funnily enough most of them seem to have said YB is prob innocent. 

that's incorrect both Hammer and myself have not said he is innocent just didn't want to bandwagon. Hammerbro and the Axe.

Can't recall Hammersbro saying he was innocent either but he hasn't said much all game and why my vote is still on him.

If we can't decide on one person then vote of the person contributing the least to playing the game. So take your pick from Hammersbro, Zulu, Trick Pony(for the way he plays not for lack of posting) or Yorkshire. The way miasg suggested to lynch Yorkshire probably didn't help so we have to move on. Or the Cman needs to enforce a deadline.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 02, 2008, 02:03:45 AM
is this what you are doing?  you had voted for him as long as I had .. and for the same reasons .. apart from what others say which you cannot take at face value because you have no idea how many of them are mafia or not .. out of the 4 people that I highlighted how many of them do you think are possible mafia ?  I'm thinking 2 or 3.

Two reasons why i've unvoted really. The one i said, and i think i worked out what laser was on about.

Of the 4 people you mentioned, TCH i definitely find dodgy. There's a few things he's done that have been quite well documented, that have made him look suspicious. Laser's made a few posts that have made me wonder, but on the whole, he hasn't made a mistake. Afroboy hasn't slipped up at all really. Hammer's made a few strange posts. The one earlier where he said..

Unvote:Steven, its a no-go area clearly

made me question him a bit. Makes it sound like he's going after certain players, rather than voting objecively.

But the thing is, although there's not much to go on with them. They're all people who know what they're doing in this game, and that's why i don't trust them. Maybe it's being paranoid, but i genuinely believe that at the very least, one person has done what i mentioned in my last post.

I'll look back through in the morning, because the 4 you highlighted i don't think are a definitive list of people who've said they think YB is innocent. For starters, TCH doesn't seem to actually say it there.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 02, 2008, 02:09:21 AM
But the thing is, although there's not much to go on with them. They're all people who know what they're doing in this game, and that's why i don't trust them.

Any decent player in this game, should have been able to see that YB's actions have looked suspicious. His style has changed, yet people have said it hasn't. He accused miasg for suggesting a no-lynch AFTER the uncontested Bauer claim and kept voting for him, until he was instructed it was suspicious.

The fact that genuinely good players also didn't pick up on this, suggests to me that they know something i don't.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 02, 2008, 02:26:53 AM
that's incorrect both Hammer and myself have not said he is innocent just didn't want to bandwagon. Hammerbro and the Axe.
what do you think most of them means .. all of them ?  most - some not all ..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 02, 2008, 02:37:54 AM
Two reasons why i've unvoted really. The one i said, and i think i worked out what laser was on about.
I'd better re-read as I not 100% sure yet ..

if I unvote YB then I'm basically saying I trust at least you 2 .. and that I'm not sure about.  So it seems that he's allowed to post nothing, crap, and maybe not even appear again and that's ok?  this game is about paranoia .. all the mafia have to do is put you in 2 minds and your screwed .. as I said before I can't see from what I've read in this game and that's every post that YB has helped town and how 4 to 5 people can all see he's innocent .. that to me in not logical.  This is why I'm stuggling to see the point ..

The fact that genuinely good players also didn't pick up on this, suggests to me that they know something i don't.
  who are these people or how many of them are there?  and how do you know you can trust them ? maybe some of them have there own agenda's. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 02, 2008, 02:43:37 AM
Any decent player in this game, should have been able to see that YB's actions have looked suspicious. His style has changed, yet people have said it hasn't. He accused miasg for suggesting a no-lynch AFTER the uncontested Bauer claim and kept voting for him, until he was instructed it was suspicious.

The fact that genuinely good players also didn't pick up on this, suggests to me that they know something i don't.


which is obviously because a majority of them will turn out to be mafia members, ie TCH and YB for starters those two are so obvious I cant believe everyone else cant see that... I can see we will lynch a townie on day one which wont help us at all.  Either YB or TCH because they have both slipped up. Steve is starting to worry me, I thought he was playing his typical townie way but hes strongly defending the vote from MIASG point of view after you suggested it... is that just because we have found a mafia target and you dont want to lose one of your own ... similar thoughts on laserblue;

FOS
TCH
YB
Steveryals
laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 02, 2008, 03:08:40 AM
yawn, when i die and am shown to be a townie you will look like a complete twat. I suppose if you write TCH is evil enough times then i'm sure you can condition everyone into believing it. Maybe instead of line spacing i'll put
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Then people might then feel like getting rid of you.
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
You tried to stay away from the aussies for 2-3 days and now miasg is supposedly in the clear you now have only one target to annoy, myself.
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
You keep saying i've slipped up but not really saying how
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
So it's hard to to take anything you write as useful
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Miasg can't get past the me posting the two people, don't watch 24 so the second character could have been just important, they were just 2 names as far as i was concerned. In someways me doing that has stopped people voting for youand narrowing the field on potential suspects.
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Hippo they may seem dodgey to you but i don't think anyone will see me contradicting myself and i've been consistant with my voting and reasoning. TP for being an idiot and Hammersbro for lack of activity. I voted for Footynewb last time as he was inactive. Then was killed during the night
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
and one last thing
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off



Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 02, 2008, 04:14:41 AM
Miasg can't get past the me posting the two people, don't watch 24 so the second character could have been just important, they were just 2 names as far as i was concerned. In someways me doing that has stopped people voting for youand narrowing the field on potential suspects.
did you read the wikipedia article or just find that and post it?  if you knew nothing then wouldn't have read a bit more thus knowing one was of importance? 

I'm starting to believe your not mafia TCH .. I'm thinking serial killer or cult leader ...

I don't know why but I have this compulsion to unvote yorkshire blue and vote TRICK PONY aka TP aka :clown: aka :fool: aka :wanker: but not yet ... yorkshite get back on contribure and I'll consider leaving you alone for day 1.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 02, 2008, 04:18:13 AM
LOL I meant YorkshireBlue not shite  :-*
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Oh and I wanted TP gone from the start after all his crap again but you people seemed to love him so deal with it. 
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
TCH isn't town but vote TP 4 now
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 02, 2008, 04:44:15 AM
full quotes just for you TCH, everyone else will see that your the main suspect and if they dont its simply because they are either blind, or have a non town role. As from a townie point of view you havnt helped the town at all.

well it seems for some reason that i have somehow become the main suspect, so i will attempt again to explain how i cannot be mafia and voting for me is a waste of a vote.

Before the game started TP let slip that he hoped he wasn't on the same side as miasg as miasg would be trouble. Which i deduced that he had a power role of some sorts. I started the game with this knowledge and pm'd currieman during the first week to see if there would be any ramifications in using that piece of information. He said no.
During this time TP played his usual self centred game of let's accuse any other aussie and get them voted off. This involved both miasg and myself voting for him as i was happy to get rid of him so the rest of us could play the game properly.
I kept my TP information to myself as i had no idea what role miasg was and if he was evil then all well and good. However when he slipped up i went to wiki and checked, then posted the 2 roles he could be. I have no idea how important the other role was but miasg let it be known that he was Jack.
At that point i considered the TP situation and decided that i should let everyone know what i knew about him. I did so and people seem to believe it as he has no longer been getting votes. So if i was evil why would i come out with information to save a townie with a power role ?? It makes no logical sence unless i am a townie myself.
My lack of posting is a joke, i explained i would be posting less as i lost access at home but still chipped in at work.

So i must deduce that at least one of the people who have voted for me is mafia. Wes put on a vote but then quickly took if off for BLuestars. If he was mafia trying to bandwagon then he wouldn't have done that, so i'm inclined to believe he is innocent.
So that leaves Laser, Hammersbro and Mike, Hammersbro has not been posting, and of the other two i think Mike is more sus. He was quick to back Steve up in getting miasg to lead us to pick a lynch. Then his reasons for voting myself are week, just saying i've gone quiet when in fact many others are quieter.

I normally prefer to vote non playing people off as they detract from the game and that's why i'm going to

unvote Afro and Vote Hammersbro maybe a vote will get him back and playing

plus a big FOS MIKE

why would a townie make this fact clear as day in the open about me having a townie power role,  yes i just said what you have wanted to hear but I can claim like miasg did but that wont help the town, you have just made me a prime suspect and you will be accountable for both MIASG and myself getting killed off early  >:( and you did the same to MIASG as well... you forced him into role claiming, so if he dies at night thats all on you, similar to me, I already know you wont care about that since your evil and miasg isnt... unless you recruit him.

well there we go not much you can say about the above post.

What i am about to post i have checked with the Cman and he said it was ok. I've deliberated about posting it for a while but it might help people focus on other players or not depending on how you interpret it.

I've mentioned that i am sure that TP has a power role of sorts either town or maifa as when before the game started i asked him if he had received his role and he grinned and said "i just hope i'm not on the same side as miasg"

This to me this means one of two things, he's mafia and misag will be killed at his first opportunity or he is a townine with powers to kill and miasg was dead at the first night phase. With Miasg now coming out it now makes me TP's no 1 target i would say.

I would think as mafia you would know who your other partners in crime are so i think say he is more likely to be a town role ??

If he is a town player it has been mentioned by many people his style of play does not help the game and hence i voted for him as i would rather he be gone and focus on playing the game properly. However with miasg outing himself and TP likely to be a town then i feel we need to start looking at other players apart from TP and myself to lynch.

So i'm giving TP a chance to start playing the game properly and unvote Trick Pony If he persits in his normal style i will happily vote him back just to get him out of the game.

Of course TP could have spun me a line, but i think not.

Out of who's left i think the US contingent seem good so it's in the UK where i believe the evil is lurking. So i'm going to vote Afroboy You are not really contributing and trying to catch a free ride into day 2. Your input to the game is similar to me past games when you had an evil role. So come out and defend yourself.

Lastly Laser i don't know who Corky or Corkey is either, i only remember Korky the Cat from the Dandy.

why the sudden change of heart here TCH you say im town now your saying im mafia.... cant even make up your mind, I cant see why anyone can see the logic of a man who cant make a decision and stick with it  ::)

but at the end of the day if all three of us are townies it goes to show how your playing style in attacking miasg and myself is not productive to helping the town. As if you role claim town, i still believe you have a non normal townie role or mafia role, miasg has let it be known he's town and not a normal townie as Jack and you get me lynched as town then it means the mafia will know nicely who to target in the night phase.

miasg posted that he made his slip up in haste as was sick of someone constantly looking over his shoulder. That person is not me. So you caused miasg to stuff up

I agree with Hippo's insights into Wes and Wes would have my vote if it wasn't for TP.

no that was you, from your wiki work where you worked out who the two possiblities are. If you were town and wikied that and worked out who he could be you wouldnt have posted to make it so obvious to everyone who MIASG was, why would you highlight a key townie with a power role to all mafia members ? out of everyone in the game so far you have had made the two main key decisions to post stuff that have a major impact on the town, which were outing MIASG and myself, including your first decision based on prior game talk, miasg already knows that we like so he expected it, so either your a fool not helping the town or your mafia/non town with your own ambitions, a townie simply wouldnt have done these things and if you are town your no loss as your not helping anyway...

not sure how many posts you want need me to quote TCH to prove that your actually protown, not defining that your mafia your simply just not town. You could be a cult leader trying to get power roled townies on your side, or your a serial killer trying to take one of the powerful townies, or your simply mafia who could have additional night actions, who knows that currie could have put into this game, just like your LOTR game..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 02, 2008, 04:45:18 AM
I have looked over the posts and found this among Trick Pony's comments, if that's not enough then i don't know what is  ;)
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
I  
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
am
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
mafia
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
and
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him off
a fool
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 02, 2008, 05:11:28 AM
why would a townie make this fact clear as day in the open about me having a townie power role,  yes i just said what you have wanted to hear but I can claim like miasg did but that wont help the town, you have just made me a prime suspect and you will be accountable for both MIASG and myself getting killed off early  >:( and you did the same to MIASG as well... you forced him into role claiming, so if he dies at night thats all on you, similar to me, I already know you wont care about that since your evil and miasg isnt... unless you recruit him.
  hang on .. you made me upset enough to post something to shut and others up .. not TCH .. he just assisted the transition of me anouncing that I was indeed Jack Bauer.  And you've said he's mafia all the way though and listed his buddies with him and now your just agreeing with something I say?  you seem to follow a lot don't you .. once again what you post makes me think the exact opposite I was before ..

why the sudden change of heart here TCH you say im town now your saying im mafia.... cant even make up your mind, I cant see why anyone can see the logic of a man who cant make a decision and stick with it  ::)
  so am I mafia or not?  you seem to change at a whim and not just on me ..

The only reason TP is now looking town is because he's starting to look at others .. I think his reasoning and logic behind half of his attacks are baseless, misguided, and petty.  Would he be doing this if I hadn't role claimed?   
  so nothing has changed here ..

I won't, because I know I can't, but I should really stop posting and just sit back and absorb what's been said and what will be said until day 1 is at an end .. The 3 aussie thing has sort have started up again and that means we haven't really progressed that far  ::)

The "feel" is to always vote off the one's not contributing .. Hammerbro .. YB .. Afro (2 more posts than YB doesn't mean you've done anything) .. and masterzulu  probably head the list .. last game the non posters made it through a few days and some ended up being modkilled for not playing .. and others mod killed them selves becuase it died .. the game was good the people just voted off the posters .. of course some were good and some were evil you get that but I won't cop it's getting boring from people if they aren't on. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 02, 2008, 06:05:36 AM
I have looked over the posts and found this among Trick Pony's comments, if that's not enough then i don't know what is  ;)
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him offTrick Pony is an idiot vote him offTrick Pony is an idiot vote him offTrick Pony is an idiot vote him offTrick Pony is an idiot vote him off
I have looked over the posts and found this among Trick Pony's comments, if that's not enough then i don't know what is  ;)
Trick Pony is an idiot vote him offTrick Pony is an idiot vote him offTrick Pony is an idiot vote him offTrick Pony is an idiot vote him offTrick Pony is an idiot vote him off

your a liar as well as being an idiot, talk about focusing on "ONE" player, just lynch TCH and get this effin day over with
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 02, 2008, 06:13:53 AM
  hang on .. you made me upset enough to post something to shut and others up .. not TCH .. he just assisted the transition of me anouncing that I was indeed Jack Bauer.  And you've said he's mafia all the way though and listed his buddies with him and now your just agreeing with something I say?  you seem to follow a lot don't you .. once again what you post makes me think the exact opposite I was before ..
  so am I mafia or not?  you seem to change at a whim and not just on me ..
  so nothing has changed here ..

I won't, because I know I can't, but I should really stop posting and just sit back and absorb what's been said and what will be said until day 1 is at an end .. The 3 aussie thing has sort have started up again and that means we haven't really progressed that far  ::)

The "feel" is to always vote off the one's not contributing .. Hammerbro .. YB .. Afro (2 more posts than YB doesn't mean you've done anything) .. and masterzulu  probably head the list .. last game the non posters made it through a few days and some ended up being modkilled for not playing .. and others mod killed them selves becuase it died .. the game was good the people just voted off the posters .. of course some were good and some were evil you get that but I won't cop it's getting boring from people if they aren't on. 


noob your a towie if your proven to be JB, you havent been challenged yet but it is still possible that your just mafia trying to get the real JB to speak up... as i said earlier you never know what CM would have put into this game. So at the moment your townie in my mind, though TCH is mafia or non town role...  now both of you have restarted the aussie bs again, I want to hear from everyone else on who they think we all are.... MIASG your a fool for confusing yourself

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 02, 2008, 06:22:42 AM
now both of you have restarted the aussie bs again
  :2funny: :moon2: so you've been blindingly following me agreeing with everything I've said since but you still think there is a real Jack Bauer out there ..  :notworthy: that'll do me

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 02, 2008, 06:56:27 AM
your a liar as well as being an idiot, talk about focusing on "ONE" player, just lynch TCH and get this effin day over with

no i have focussed on other players you have kept on and on about me being evil, so i've had enough of it and responded in kind. I've always said you have a power role which you have not denied but now you have reverted back to how you started the game and it stops people looking for the real mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 02, 2008, 08:06:54 AM
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  :2funny: :moon2: so you've been blindingly following me agreeing with everything I've said since but you still think there is a real Jack Bauer out there ..  :notworthy: that'll do me

where did you read that bs... read it again miasg. I said that I agree at the moment that your JB only because everyone else hasnt challanged that.  Just because you havent been challenged that doesnt mean your JB it just helps to sway others opinions of you, id rather believe someone on day one who has come out roleclaiming to be a townie who hasnt been challenged, and focus on someone else who is sus like TCH. He may well be a reg townie but from his actions in this game so far are not helping the town. He has already pushed two of us into the open on day one so why would a townie do that... I just cant see it in any other way...


no i have focussed on other players you have kept on and on about me being evil, so i've had enough of it and responded in kind. I've always said you have a power role which you have not denied but now you have reverted back to how you started the game and it stops people looking for the real mafia.

your game is totally different from all of your other games, im still waiting on responses from the others as asked above so how is that just focusing on you... all of the talk is mainly about us so lets sort it out... your mafia/non town and im a townie with a power role its really as simple as that.

There is no point in going on about it we will just hit 50 pages going around in circles,

As I said earlier I believe TCH, YB, and laserblue to be mafia/non-town roles, I will wait to see what happens over night, and see who posts and who doesnt, most of the quiet players are probably mafia as they dont need to work out whos who, probably just scared of being found out or slipping up...

whats the point in playing if you post once a week...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 02, 2008, 08:40:40 AM
Of the 4 people you mentioned, TCH i definitely find dodgy. There's a few things he's done that have been quite well documented, that have made him look suspicious. Laser's made a few posts that have made me wonder, but on the whole, he hasn't made a mistake. Afroboy hasn't slipped up at all really. Hammer's made a few strange posts. The one earlier where he said..

made me question him a bit. Makes it sound like he's going after certain players, rather than voting objecively.

But the thing is, although there's not much to go on with them. They're all people who know what they're doing in this game, and that's why i don't trust them. Maybe it's being paranoid, but i genuinely believe that at the very least, one person has done what i mentioned in my last post.

I'll look back through in the morning, because the 4 you highlighted i don't think are a definitive list of people who've said they think YB is innocent. For starters, TCH doesn't seem to actually say it there.

I'm voting objectively, in fact if you look back and actually read I have made few votes and always given reasons for them. I unvoted Steven simply because it was going nowhere. My suspisions of him are well documented in several of my posts and no one has given any thought to them so fair enough. I'll drop it for now. My theory of Steven falls apart if Yorkshire is town though, something that looks unlikely given his scummy play. Hippo , you seem increasingly trying to fit me up?

@SirHammer - why won't you jump on the bandwagon?  you think he's town? 

A poor eager mafia player would be one of the first on such bandwagon so I was looking out for that.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 02, 2008, 10:06:39 AM
Hello people im readin threw where i left off and at the min im up to here, ZULU I have left you alone mate but can you answer what you mean here?

I've been trying to keep on top of reading all the posts

And then you say this
hehe I was posting just as you wrote that, as for lurking, I've been reading over the posts quite a bit whilst I've been at work
I did say I would post that night but life once again got in the way, sorry about that.

You my friend are fast becoming a number on target FOS ZULU

Ill continue reading where i left off..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 02, 2008, 11:24:49 AM
Hello people im readin threw where i left off and at the min im up to here, ZULU I have left you alone mate but can you answer what you mean here?

And then you say this
You my friend are fast becoming a number on target FOS ZULU

Ill continue reading where i left off..

What I meant by that was simply I know I haven't been getting involved and posting as much as perhaps I should have but I'm still trying to play the game in my own half asses kind of way
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 02, 2008, 12:31:02 PM
what about you then laserblue... can you please show me the courtesy and tell me your list and possibly why ? 

I'm at work right now & only got a few mins  ....

TCH & TP are definatley on the list & maybe mikeblue & maybe an experienced player like axeman I'll expand on this later when I get home.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 02, 2008, 01:08:42 PM
Couldn't get on yesterday but Jesus has it kicked off again!!!

I'm waiting for a vote count before I post again.

Laser I'm intrigued to why you keep having a go at me and am eaggerly awaiting your explanation.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 02, 2008, 02:46:20 PM
Alright, I've read throught the drivel of the last 2 pages..

Hippo says there are people distancing themselves from the YB lynch, and those are probably mafia.. then he distances himself from it.. 

I've said before and I'll say it again, nobody will ever know with YB, he's always erratic, he's always undetectable..  he's as safe as it gets on day one, because he's 50/50..

Hammer has unvoted me becasue it's going nowhere, same reason I unvoted hammerbro..

everyone is afraid to make their vote count, we have votes on something like 7 different players..  how is that possible? 

if all the townies have a list of 3, and they overlap at one person, vote for the one that will make your vote count... otherwise we may not finish this game before the end of time!!

My 3 are Hammerbro, Afro, _____???_____   so I guess that's just two that i'm pretty sure about..

lots of talking, but nobody is really saying anything..  just back and forth, blah blah blah..

if I get a few minutes free at work today, I'll go back and come up with something

Unvote YB  maybe we can get better odds , but I'm not sure.. 

MIASG, my suggestion for you, stop focusing on YB, focus on someone else on your list of possible mafia, and you may get a better reaction from them and from the town. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 02, 2008, 02:50:59 PM
Vote count
3 – YorkshireBlue (MiasG, Trickpony, Mikeblue)
3 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu, Laserblue)
1 – TCH (Wesmancity)
1 - Wesmancity(HappyAxeman)
1 - Hammerbro (TCH)
1 – Hippo (Hammerbro)
1 – Masterzulu (Bluestars)

It will take 8 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 02, 2008, 03:44:42 PM
Right Steve i know now what you are saying about the day. My three suspects are who im sure have 1.mafia roles 2. important roles in the game.

1. TCH, as i have said since the start of the game Mafia/Importannt role??
2. Zulu becoming more and more sus with his post at the min.
3. Happy Mafia dunno but hes a good player and played a good game last time round but there is somthing there that says evil.

Peeps at the min i know who are Town are me and Miasg which why would'nt he be with no one else saying that they are JB?

The People who i really dont know about are the two people who are number one and number two in the Vote count YB on 3 and TP on 3.

Now for the sake of the game Im going to unvote TCH as im the only person to vote for him so my vote is pointless.

and vote for.....Yorkshire Blue, my reason to vote yorkshire blue is that if im sure Zulu is Mafia hes voted for TP and maybe hes trying to protect YB from getting the chop!. So its got to be YB.  Vote Yorkshire Blue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 02, 2008, 04:03:19 PM
oh come on wes.. you list your top 3 suspects, and then vote someone else?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 02, 2008, 04:10:26 PM
oh come on wes.. you list your top 3 suspects, and then vote someone else?

whats the point steve?? TCH there is no point as hes been my number one sus and there's only me voted for him. The days never going to end. We need to come up with somthing and i have said im not sure about YB or TP if there good or Mafia. Now out of them both YB is not helping the town is he? if you can give me a peace of info where i can say "yes hes made a contribution" then ill retract my vote. But I have a life out side this game and getting very fustrated that we are not moving forward.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 02, 2008, 05:06:12 PM
I'm probably gonna get accused of twisting words or whatever, but did wes just call Axeman, "Happy Mafia"?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 02, 2008, 05:21:54 PM
LOL!

Yeah I saw that too. Are they together one wonders?

Could that be the most blatant slip in the Mafia game history???  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 02, 2008, 05:47:07 PM
LOL!

Yeah I saw that too. Are they together one wonders?

Could that be the most blatant slip in the Mafia game history???  :laugh:

no because im town.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 02, 2008, 07:16:51 PM
LOL!

Yeah I saw that too. Are they together one wonders?

Could that be the most blatant slip in the Mafia game history???  :laugh:

I dunno anymore Mike?
At first what caused my suspicion was because you seemed to be playing a different game ... more cautious .. can't decide whether that's cause you changed it cause you always got picked on first day because of the get up & at em style you have previously used ... but you have always had town roles & played that way then ....this game a different style maybe a different role... everyone gets an evil role sooner or later maybe it's your turn .. remember you came out a couple of games ago & FOS or voted bluestars cause she had to be evil sooner or later.. & you turned out to be right ... I did the same thing with steve the game before & turned out to be right.... maybe not much to go off but then theres not much to go off in this game.... if i'm wrong then sorry... I don't think I've voted you this game & wasn't going to suddenly change my vote to you without anything else ...

I can't decide whether TP is evil or just the most annoying player on mafia ever... to be honest I wouldn't be sorry if he he got killed whatever... (he probably feels the same about me ) I know from peeps posts I'm not the onlyone that feels this way.

TCH I think he is evil ..... but the onlything to stop me going for him at the mo is the fact that he looked so evil last game I wasted an investigation on him & he turned out to be innocent (I say wasted cause he got killed overnight anyway)

I think happy could be mafia .. like a few of us he has admitted previously that he does not like being on the mafia side cause he finds it hard to be a convincing liar ... I don't think he has been very convincing in this game.

YB I agree he has not done much for the town not much use at all.. but I don't believe him to be evil (I've said why) so don't see the point in voting him.. if evryone else wants to that's fine by me .. we won't be missing much .. but if were going to vote like that I'd rather get rid of tp cause he is more annoying.


My vote is still on TP but may change it back to TCH but with wes taking his vote off tommy ... theres not much point really...

I think the way to end this game is to inforce a deadline soon & then who has the majority of votes gets lynched.... if it's a tie .. then currie picks randomly

Afros lap top has packed in so we are sharing the pc with my missus so excuse us if we are not on as often... I started this post an hour ago but had to take a break cause the missus needed it for work.

Currie deadline please
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 02, 2008, 07:18:26 PM
obviously I used the wrong quote from Mike should have been this one...

Couldn't get on yesterday but Jesus has it kicked off again!!!

I'm waiting for a vote count before I post again.

Laser I'm intrigued to why you keep having a go at me and am eaggerly awaiting your explanation.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 02, 2008, 10:37:14 PM
I think the way to end this game is to inforce a deadline soon & then who has the majority of votes gets lynched.... if it's a tie .. then currie picks randomly

We've been playing the game for 2 weeks. I think alot of people should be annoyed if Currie has to pick someone randomly to kill. Mafia rules state...

Quote from: Thread of Basic Mafia Rules
11. If a deadline is placed, a lynch will require a majority of the normal majority. For example, if it's 5 to lynch normally, 3 votes will suffice at the deadline. If more than one player has enough votes to be lynched at the deadline in this manner, it will be a no-lynch.

Fair enough if Currie wants to go his own way but a random lynch would be a cop out at this stage. I'm saying this with my mod hat on, nothing to do with the specifics of this game.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 02, 2008, 11:07:44 PM
no because im town.
I beg to differ.
You have wriggled out of the question me and Miasg posed to you pages ago. You are playing the same desperate way as when i rumbled you on the first mafia game you played... where you turned out to be mafia...
If yorkie turns out to be town, then to me your vote on him looks way suspicious considering steven retracticed his voted just a couple of posts before you.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 02, 2008, 11:11:20 PM
If yorkie turns out to be town, then to me your vote on him looks way suspicious considering steven retracticed his voted just a couple of posts before you.

I noticed that, it seemed almost as if he was trying to keep things alive on that front..  to be fair, i'm not doing very good at figuring people out this game..  but I have hunches which I've listed before, but wesmancity, i cant get a grasp of who or what he is here, or what his objective may be with the way he's playing this game.

Speaking of changing play styles..  mikeblue, wes, yorkshire, afro & axeman have all changed somewhat..  doesn't mean they're all evil, but that's the ones I've noticed who have changed a bit..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 02, 2008, 11:24:25 PM
I havent changed style at all, I'm town, and my style depends on what mood i'm in. When i'm town and i get the bit between my teeth, I'm agressive in attack, but IMO, not in defense until lots peeps start not believing me despite me saying all i can.
So all this shit from peeps telling me to calm down is just bullshit, its freaking game based on paranio, you need to be aggressive to get result.
Laser seemed very upset with me, as did Mikeblue...and so is Wes... like i said previously, isnt it funny that the only people protesting about my so called 'style' are the ones i most recently suggested were mafia?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 02, 2008, 11:25:38 PM
TCH I think he is evil ..... but the onlything to stop me going for him at the mo is the fact that he looked so evil last game I wasted an investigation on him & he turned out to be innocent (I say wasted cause he got killed overnight anyway)

I have mentioned this before, somehow i do give the impression of being evil. So just like last time i may look it to some but i'm not, i am town.  

I'd rather get rid of TP too Laser as he is annoying, but i still think his power role is good at the moment. This day does need to end, we are close to 600 posts already !! There are two main guys with votes, TP and Yorkshire. Yorkshire is contributing as much as Hammersbro at the moment ie nothing so unvote Hammerbro and vote Yorkshire
People are too scared to vote as if someone gets to 3 or 4 votes no one else wants to vote as they will accused of bandwagonning. But we will never get anywhere if that's the case.

So my vote take Yorkshire up to 5 votes by my count. With TP on 3 still
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 02, 2008, 11:53:03 PM
no one was with me on YB then all of a sudden wes and TCH jump on  ??? TCH one day you say no way then the next you do .. why?

I'm probably gonna get accused of twisting words or whatever, but did wes just call Axeman, "Happy Mafia"?
yeah I'm accusing you .. I'm one of the worst for spelling and grammer but blind freddie can see what he meant.  Happy - Mafia - dunno etc


YB I agree he has not done much for the town not much use at all.. but I don't believe him to be evil (I've said why) so don't see the point in voting him.. if evryone else wants to that's fine by me .. we won't be missing much .. but if were going to vote like that I'd rather get rid of tp cause he is more annoying.
you implore me not to vote for him now you say your fine with it if he goes  ??? 

I have mentioned this before, somehow i do give the impression of being evil. So just like last time i may look it to some but i'm not, i am town.  
well maybe your are .. TP gives the impression he's an idiot.  Is that wrong?  the defence rest your honour.

Also I disagree with Steven's idea to list 3 and vote the most .. the odds are stacked in the mafia's favour .. they go last see which town leads and assists in voting them off .. I got no problem with the list just voting the leader .. may as well do that from the first post of day 1.


Hippo says there are people distancing themselves from the YB lynch, and those are probably mafia.. then he distances himself from it.. I've said before and I'll say it again, nobody will ever know with YB, he's always erratic, he's always undetectable..  he's as safe as it gets on day one, because he's 50/50..
Unvote YB  maybe we can get better odds , but I'm not sure..  MIASG, my suggestion for you, stop focusing on YB, focus on someone else on your list of possible mafia, and you may get a better reaction from them and from the town. 
since you also unvoted YB aren't you doing the same as hippo and distancing yourself from him ?  All this shit about unvoting people because of one vote is crap .. if you think they are mafia keep it on .. look at others, keep the pressure up, someone might slip.  That's why my vote has remained on YB for so long .. he hasn't come back on .. given up ... not helped .. why wouldn't I get rid of him in day 1.  As I said if he's town fight to stay alive .... nothing.  To me he is the best bet for day 1.  Laser's and others have tried very hard but also seems to have seen he's a likely target. 

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 03, 2008, 12:00:53 AM
i think i wrote at the time that i only didn't vote for him because of what TP had posted. But i have now decided to vote because of what i put in my last post.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 03, 2008, 12:22:28 AM
I think happy could be mafia .. like a few of us he has admitted previously that he does not like being on the mafia side cause he finds it hard to be a convincing liar ... I don't think he has been very convincing in this game.
I'm not being convincing? you mean i havent been able to convince enough peeps that you are mafia.  ::)

3. Happy Mafia dunno but hes a good player and played a good game last time round but there is somthing there that says evil.
really? considering i wasnt around enough to make an impact, I cant see how i played a good game. ???
You cant prove i'm mafia, As i'm not. so my consience is completly free knowing i know nothing about anyone apart from what has been revealed in this thread. so in real terms I cant make stupid mistakes to slip up because i know i am town.
People trying to create stuff about me, saying i'm posting weird, crap, and my styles changed have an agenda. Maybe i am really close with my suspects and there shitting thereselves?

once again I'll repeat, Laserblue, Mikeblue and Wesmancity...

I'm not voting YB just for the sake of ending the day, the longer it drags on with peeps contributing the more info we have at our disposel for the rest of the game. because i see my suspects voting on someone, I will rarely vote for that person they are voting.

@derhammer. you were asking what peeps think of your comments on steve, I do agree with most of what you have said. as I do with your spat with hippo... hippo is playing strange. He has usualy really had a go on someone by now, instead he seems content on being a commentator, rounding things up and picking up on peoples writing mistakes.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 03, 2008, 02:18:09 AM
I havent changed style at all, I'm town, and my style depends on what mood i'm in. When i'm town and i get the bit between my teeth, I'm agressive in attack, but IMO, not in defense until lots peeps start not believing me despite me saying all i can.
So all this shit from peeps telling me to calm down is just bullshit, its freaking game based on paranio, you need to be aggressive to get result.
Laser seemed very upset with me, as did Mikeblue...and so is Wes... like i said previously, isnt it funny that the only people protesting about my so called 'style' are the ones i most recently suggested were mafia?

no, it's day one.  you've never been so active on day one..  in fact, usually when you are getting the "happy axeman is sitting back letting the day float by, mafia maybe".. that's when you say "it's day one, i always post very little on day one."
then on day 2, that's when you get aggressive...   it's still day 1 and look at you..  maybe since we're 300 pages in, it feels like day 4.. ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 03, 2008, 02:25:32 AM
so my consience is completly free knowing i know nothing about anyone apart from what has been revealed in this thread.


there are 3 roles that fit this description:   Town, SerialKiller (no way 3 times running???), Cult Leader... 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 03, 2008, 04:36:41 AM
I havent changed style at all, I'm town, and my style depends on what mood i'm in. When i'm town and i get the bit between my teeth, I'm agressive in attack, but IMO, not in defense until lots peeps start not believing me despite me saying all i can.
So all this shit from peeps telling me to calm down is just bullshit, its freaking game based on paranio, you need to be aggressive to get result.
Laser seemed very upset with me, as did Mikeblue...and so is Wes... like i said previously, isnt it funny that the only people protesting about my so called 'style' are the ones i most recently suggested were mafia?

I totally agree... 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 03, 2008, 04:48:35 AM
I want to hear from YB to make sure we dont lynch a townie... so where are you YB  ??? probably busy bomb making before he gets lynched  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 03, 2008, 05:03:51 AM
I'm not being convincing? you mean i havent been able to convince enough peeps that you are mafia.  ::)
yes I agree .. you haven't convinced me laserblue is mafia.

I havent changed style at all, I'm town, and my style depends on what mood i'm in. When i'm town and i get the bit between my teeth, I'm agressive in attack, but IMO, not in defense until lots peeps start not believing me despite me saying all i can.
this is contradictory .. so it depends on your mood but you take the bit between the teeth if your town?  which one is it?  I have to agree that you are normally absent on day 1 and I have to keep going back to page 1 to make sure your actually playing sonmetimes ... I disagree with your posts completly.  This might be how you think you play but I don't think the majority of us feels the same way.  Laserblue has urged me not to vote for YB - something mafia would prob not do on day 1 so insistanly .. but then he says he doesn't care if he goes .. no one is telling you to calm down either I thik it was for steve not to get mod killed .. FOS HAPPYAXEMAN and UNVOTE YORKSHIREBLUE for now .. but seriously get on YB and stake your claim.  We 3 Aussies (well 2 now) have had one, two, or all three of us in peoples top 3 mafia candidates but at least we are on and playing.  the game will still go forward without us but we are still trying to drive this thing .. day 1 would have been very different and quieter without us ..
TRICKPONY IS AN IDIOT VOTE HIM OFF NOW   or however it went  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 03, 2008, 05:06:06 AM
I disagree with your posts completly. 
TRICKPONY IS AN IDIOT VOTE HIM OFF NOW   or however it went  :bleh:
to be clear it should be "post" not "posts" as in the one he wrote that I responded to
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 03, 2008, 06:16:47 AM
to be clear it should be "post" not "posts" as in the one he wrote that I responded to

noob  :yes:  :cowboy:

also there are too many quiet people trying to survive the first day, id like to see more from Zulu, Bluestars when she finds the time,  Afro and YB.  If YB hasent bothered to respond for this long why is he still here.....
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 03, 2008, 09:36:04 AM
@derhammer. you were asking what peeps think of your comments on steve, I do agree with most of what you have said. as I do with your spat with hippo... hippo is playing strange. He has usualy really had a go on someone by now, instead he seems content on being a commentator, rounding things up and picking up on peoples writing mistakes.

At least someone noticed. Steven is one of the players that the majority dont like to even challenge. In this case I think I put forward a theory that was completely ignored and makes sense with every action.

1.Miasg came out as Bauer, and after some shocking play from Yorkshire, was looking at Yorkshire at his main target.
2.Steven told Miasg to pick one townie, and the rest of the town would fall in line and lynch him.
3.Me and a few others criticised that plan, so it was dropped.
4.Miasg eventually does choose Yorkshire, but now the town is unsure so doesnt fall in line.


Who looks suspicious in this sequence? Steven knew Miasg would pick Yorkshire when he said it so to me that indicates either Steven is a cop with a Guilty on Yorkshire, or he is a mafia member who knows Yorkshire is Innocent, and spots an easy lynch which he cant be blamed for since "Jack Bauer ordered everyone to". I unvoted Steven out of frustration since until now, absolutely no one has even looked at my claims.

Perhaps him and Hippo could be part of a dangerous mafia and playing a very smart game. Hippo has not got his teeth into anyone yet like he normally does, but there has not been a single. major defining issue so maybe thats why, but I still have some doubts about the both of them.

If Yorkshire does get lynched, and turns up town, then in my mind that just puts more weight onto my suspiscions of Steven.


Also those criticising people for "being too scared" to get on the bandwagon, shut up! Not everyone thinks Yorkshire is mafia, so everyone doesnt want to be associated with a bad lynch. We have investigated too much in this day now, and we need the right result, or at least a result that puts us in good stead for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 03, 2008, 12:29:46 PM
VOTE YORKSHIRBLUE for voting for the most bizare reasons ever and only taking his vote off me after it was pointed out he's still voting for a probable town .. just quietly your not having or had a stroke are you?
  Hammer your timeline is wrong .. I hadn't actually came out as def bauer until after I had voted for Yorkshireblue but it wasn't far off that so number 4 is completely wrong.
Who looks suspicious in this sequence? Steven knew Miasg would pick Yorkshire when he said it so to me that indicates either Steven is a cop with a Guilty on Yorkshire, or he is a mafia member who knows Yorkshire is Innocent, and spots an easy lynch which he cant be blamed for since "Jack Bauer ordered everyone to". I unvoted Steven out of frustration since until now, absolutely no one has even looked at my claims.
if he is a cop how could he have investage already ? so your saying he's mafia I take it.

Also those criticising people for "being too scared" to get on the bandwagon, shut up! Not everyone thinks Yorkshire is mafia, so everyone doesnt want to be associated with a bad lynch. We have investigated too much in this day now, and we need the right result, or at least a result that puts us in good stead for tomorrow.
well that should stop any bandwagon .... we may have investigated too much in the day but we are no closer to getting the right result. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 03, 2008, 03:08:52 PM
Hammer you are completely off base.  I've explained this to you before, it wasnt just so everyone would follow who he had already voted for, but to give him the ability to get good responses from people.  if the weight of the town is on a player they would respond differently than if it was just one vote or one player accusing them..  that was the idea, obviously way too complicated for you.
also, got your hidden message, noted..  (or maybe just a slipup??)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 03, 2008, 03:49:38 PM
so the choices are either to get Currieman to install somekind of deadline....or choose to vote either YB or TP....or continue on with my personal ideas and the game could last a lifetime....at this point....I don't know....I've been out running errands and shopping and enjoying not focusing on this game...lol...that being said....if I had to vote someone that is at the top of that list....well....pro bably could go either way...TP will drive me nuts....he's always posting all this stuff...although I will give you a bit of credit I followed what you had to say a bit more than last game...and YB....who is at best participating....I don't like voting for either to be honest because as much as both of their playing styles get on my nerves...I just don't think there is reason over others to think they are the most evil...and yet if I don't vote for one of them this day goes on forever.....now I see how people modkill themselves....compl ete aggrevation.

UNVOTE MASTERZULU....that you were convincing...but well....it's going no where to keep a vote on you...and well....honestly... I was looking to get you to at least remain posting...I know you said you can only view at work...fine...just attempting to get involved when you do post is helpful...respondin g to your detractors does help.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 03, 2008, 04:08:09 PM
KILL MIASG

:)

wanted to wait, but..  terrorism is cool i guess..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 03, 2008, 04:25:40 PM
sadly this won't end the day for all of you..  only for me & Miasg...  once it's done and all..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 03, 2008, 04:38:02 PM
WTF???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 03, 2008, 06:48:43 PM
I havent changed style at all, I'm town, and my style depends on what mood i'm in. When i'm town and i get the bit between my teeth, I'm agressive in attack, but IMO, not in defense until lots peeps start not believing me despite me saying all i can.
So all this shit from peeps telling me to calm down is just bullshit, its freaking game based on paranio, you need to be aggressive to get result.
Laser seemed very upset with me, as did Mikeblue...and so is Wes... like i said previously, isnt it funny that the only people protesting about my so called 'style' are the ones i most recently suggested were mafia?

Please could you tell me when i said you where Aggressive, this is the 2nd time you have said somthing that i havent actually said. YOU ARE PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH FOOL!.

Please town pick this info up and use it when considering your vote!, And happy i am town and carnt wait to prove you wrong at the end of this game as you think your so confident that im evil. Good things come to those who wait
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 03, 2008, 07:35:54 PM
KILL MIASG

:)

wanted to wait, but..  terrorism is cool i guess..
so has day 1 ended?  should we keep typing? in the spirit of the game I won't comment on any players now until it's confirmed or denied by Currieman apart from to say even though Steven (well if I'm dead so is he)  was not on my posted list of potentials he was in the top 2 of my night action list and I would have known what he was soon enough anyway I guess.  Surprised you waited so long...  and surprised your going off now - can't stand the heat ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 03, 2008, 07:41:04 PM
Day 1 has not ended
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 03, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
I've thought about it today....it's been a FOREVER long day one...it's still going....if I think back to things and go over and over things in my mind....I can like I've said before come up with...well he's not so active...then those folks come up and post....then I go with the well he's being aggressive...then those types back off...then there are the typical investigative types digging at everyone....and then I say...well at least they are helping get information...so I can be swayed either way on lots of players.

Of all the things that have happened, the admission that Miasg is Jack Bauer was the most significant...there have been no other players to refute his claim...and at this point I can't imagine one reason a townie wouldn't simply confront Miasg if he was a liar...I can't think of this game being played without Jack exisiting...therefo re I can't think of any way that he is lying and shouldn't be believed.

That being said...as annoying as some other players have been to this point...there is only one thing that overall seems just blatantly ignorant. Hate to say it, but looking back TCH you calling Miasg out as Jack when I specifically told everyone early on that if we suspected as townies another townie to have a powerful role...we should keep it mum....we've gone over and over this a million times....but I just can't see why TCH would do this....I just don't get it...and all of the discussions I've never felt he really convinces me that him doing that made any sense. It was obvious that TP had got Miasg ticked off....so his motivation however ill concieved it was to roleclaim...the fact he did was still vauge.

That being said...no matter what is going on with folks wanting a deadline, wanting miasg to pick, wanting this or that...and all of us at this point just want day one to end....I'm just voting based off of the only truly bizarre move of this whole game....and will therefore VOTE TCH

I'll probably be gone for the weekend....I'm not going to try to convince anyone to force a lynch, deadline, vote this way or that way....I'm just simply telling you folks....I'm getting annoyed this game is going on so long, but I still can't just put my vote out there without feeling I've at least thought it over and have as valid a reason as possible since it is only day one.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 03, 2008, 09:03:48 PM
KILL MIASG

:)

wanted to wait, but..  terrorism is cool i guess..

..and you called me weak!..ffs stave whats the point really?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 03, 2008, 09:06:09 PM
..and you called me weak!..ffs stave whats the point really?

you shall see sir.. you shall see
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 03, 2008, 10:30:17 PM
ohhhh! Im ill with all this, the posts have dried up AGAIN and we are nowhere need to this day ending. >:(
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 03, 2008, 11:11:42 PM
i'm confused, is miasg or Steve dead or not ?

If miasg's not the only thing i can think is he did post a while back that he would make it through the first night so maybe he has a get out of jail free card.

But based on that why hasn't anyone voted Steve

unvote Yorkshire and vote Stevenryals


I'm away for the weekend now, a football comp
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 04, 2008, 12:46:19 AM
i'm confused too. I'm guessing StevenRyals has basically role claimed Terrorist? Is miasg dead? is steve really a terrorist? currie has stated the day has not ended?

no option really, we cant have a terrorist on the loose...
UNVOTE WESMANCITY, VOTE STEVENRYALS
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 04, 2008, 02:32:51 AM
KILL MIASG :) wanted to wait, but..  terrorism is cool i guess..
have you gone off half cocked? or trying to end day 1?
Day 1 has not ended
thanks .. cool for me
VOTE STEVENRYALS

you shall see sir.. you shall see
what's supposed to mean?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 04, 2008, 02:38:22 AM
i'm confused, is miasg or Steve dead or not ?

If miasg's not the only thing i can think is he did post a while back that he would make it through the first night so maybe he has a get out of jail free card.

But based on that why hasn't anyone voted Steve

unvote Yorkshire and vote Stevenryals


I'm away for the weekend now, a football comp
  I'm still here so think what you like .. steven might be town who's just had enough or terrorist gone off too early or I had/have some get out of jail free card/s .. he's alive otherwise currieman would have said otherwise.  secretly I think he prefers the graveyard  :ghostface:  I think it's ironic that 2 people opposed to bandwagoning yorkshire blue were the first few on this one
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 04, 2008, 09:25:40 AM
Some very strange happening?

Steven in the space of an hour went from defending himself against me, to apparently being ordered to kill Miasg, except neither appear to be dead. Steven thought this would end the day. Maybe he is just bluffing and trying to get lynched because he got bored with the game. Or Miasg being Jack Bauer is immune to kill attempts?

Strange that Bluestars posted a while after and didn't even mention what had just happened, and Miasg, this isnt a bandwagon. Someone has come out and for now claimed they are a terrorist, what else are the town meant to do?

Something strange is going on which is why Im not voting just yet..could someone have took control of Steven?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 04, 2008, 09:56:03 AM
to apparently being ordered to kill Miasg, except neither appear to be dead.

 Miasg, this isnt a bandwagon.
  it looks to me that he did it himself and wasn't ordered... and it damn well should be a bandwagon after that sort of rubbish.

I hadn't bolded it which I don't think matter but just in case VOTE STEVENRYALS

and FOS BLUESTARS
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 04, 2008, 11:03:21 AM
if it's terrorist cells, then we're probably talking 2 mafia in each cell with one head honcho who controls the cells.  They will probably have the ability to demand a cell send a suicide attack or something of that nature.. 

That's from day one. Seems like he told us the structure of the mafia. If it's him giving an order to somebody else, then maybe that's why there's this bizarre period of confusion. Waiting for the person to do it. If he's been ordered to do it, who by? And why? He didn't seem under too much pressure himself, so it seems a bit bizarre.

What is also bizarre is that bluestars and wes both didn't reference this directly afterwards. It's a very confusing event, that should have warranted everyone's attention. But it seemed to be completely passed over by bluestars in particular. Expecting it? Maybe there was something in Steven's defense of her (that i thought seemed reasonable at the time) for being absent after all.

It's hard to know whether to vote for steve, because obviously they might already be dead and it could be a waste. But we can't not really, in case there is a way to stop it, or in case it's an order to someone else or whatever. Too big a risk to take to just assume they're dead.

vote stevenryals
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 04, 2008, 11:08:15 AM
I'm not voting until I know what's going on ... I find it incredible that blusestars didn't even mention what happened.... it's all surreal.... is ryals havin a joke with us ... is he dead.... whats goin on ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 04, 2008, 11:15:03 AM
Thats a good spot Hippo,

Very strange that the two people who posted after Mikeblue both completely ignored what had just happened. This is what Wes said after, and then Stevens response.

..and you called me weak!..ffs stave whats the point really?

you shall see sir.. you shall see

As Hippo has pointed out, Steven perhaps was cocky at the start and pointed out how his mafia team worked. Maybe he is being cocky again by referring to Wes as Sir, perhaps indicating that he is his boss?

Regardless Hippo made a good point that perhaps Stevens attack failed and that we can stop him attacking again if he is lynched? We have no other choice really

Vote:Stevenryals


_____

I'm not voting until I know what's going on ... I find it incredible that blusestars didn't even mention what happened.... it's all surreal.... is ryals havin a joke with us ... is he dead.... whats goin on ???

It's too risky to let him survive though? What if his terrorist attack on Miasg failed because Miasg is Bauer? We should lynch Steven asap as to stop him getting another chance if thats the case? I didnt think before that he might get another chance.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 04, 2008, 11:48:28 AM
I'm not sure if Steve is just winding us up perhaps, just to get himself lynched and the day over, cause he was getting so pissed off with going round in circles. But we have no othwer choice but to VOTE STEVENRYALLS I will be annoyed if he turns out town and has just done this to get the day over! (As we will have no info then and it doesn't help us) Just seemed strange that he would give all that info away at the start if he was a terriost, and that he knew the day wouldn't end........ as in to bluff us into voting him off??? If I have hit the nail on the head here I am going to appear evil now but that is my view on things because I really didn't have Steve down as evil this game!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 04, 2008, 12:02:26 PM
I think mike might be right & steve is winding us all up & this is all about ending the day but maybe not .. i dunno vote stevenryals
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 04, 2008, 12:07:53 PM
Ok from what I can figure out, stevnryals wants himself to be killed one way or another..... So I will vote stevenryals
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 04, 2008, 12:09:44 PM
Damn that was meant to be me!

Ok from what I can figure out, stevnryals wants himself to be killed one way or another..... So I will vote stevenryals
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 04, 2008, 12:13:07 PM
The more I think about it the more I think he is not Mafia.

He knew the day wouldn't end because he is not a terriost and said it to get lynched! I'm sure of it. Just has Steve written all over it to do that. MIASG is not dead and I agree its possible because he is Jack but it all seems to much of a coincidence. Currimen came on and said very little......I mean what could he say if Steve is town ????

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Quig on October 04, 2008, 12:17:09 PM
Vote: Stevenryals he just fucks up all the games he's in.

FOS: Wesmancity blates is on stevens team and annoyed that he suicided early.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 04, 2008, 12:18:48 PM
The more I think about it the more I think he is not Mafia.

He knew the day wouldn't end because he is not a terriost and said it to get lynched! I'm sure of it. Just has Steve written all over it to do that. MIASG is not dead and I agree its possible because he is Jack but it all seems to much of a coincidence. Currimen came on and said very little......I mean what could he say if Steve is town ????

I agree, but can we afford to risk it? I suspected him for that Miasg/Yorkshire stunt, and maybe this is his petulant way at getting back at me, I.E proving he is town by getting himself lynched?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 04, 2008, 12:21:58 PM
if it is a message then someone either has ignored it, I can't die  :D, or they haven't come back on .. so that would mean Trick Pony,Yorkshire Blue,or Masterzulu  .. but he says
sadly this won't end the day for all of you..  only for me & Miasg...  once it's done and all..
which doesn't make sense if he's asking someone ... and thinking I could die ...  

maybe it's time to ask Bluestars the hard question  .. is Steven firing blanks?  :yes:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 04, 2008, 12:24:51 PM
Surely Steve would die even if MIASG survived???

Or does he have to wait for someone else to do something for it all to happen? That could be the case I suppose as he did say [quote author=MIASG link=topic=10435.msg119865#msg119865 date=1223119318]
if it is a message then someone either has ignored it, I can't die  :D, or they haven't come back on .. so that would mean Trick Pony,Yorkshire Blue,or Masterzulu  .. but he says  which doesn't make sense if he's asking someone ... and thinking I could die ...  

maybe it's time to ask Bluestars the hard question  .. is Steven firing blanks?  :yes:

[/quote]
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 04, 2008, 12:25:56 PM
sadly this won't end the day for all of you..  only for me & Miasg...  once it's done and all..

Meant to be this quote
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 04, 2008, 12:31:44 PM
Meant to be this quote

Either way, hes got 8 votes now. Guess we will find out soon as Currieman logs on
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 04, 2008, 12:32:09 PM
STOP TYPING PEOPLE DAY 1 IS OVERVote count


2 – YorkshireBlue ( Trickpony, Wesmancity,)
3 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu, ,)
1 - TCH (Bluestars)

9 stevenryals (TCH,HappyAxeman,miasg, hippo, sir hammer, Mikeblue, Laserblue*, afroboy, hammerbro)
It will take 8 votes to get a lynch

laserblue* could have been afroboy since there was 3 posts in a row but even if its not counted there's 8 votes hence a lynch

good luck townies in the night phase ..

in TP's defence I know he's away from his PC this weekend - but he would have tried to kill be before now anyway.




Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: laserblue on October 04, 2008, 02:34:12 PM
no the first one was definatley me  ;) ..... afro just forgot to log me off ... like I said where having to share a PC now.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 04, 2008, 02:37:52 PM
My death post...

arg...  gurgle...  hopefully the town will have the info they need from my lynch....   now I wont get fired... I can call in DEAD!!  lol...


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 04, 2008, 04:24:37 PM
Vote count
9 – StevenRyals (TCH, Axeman, MiasG, Hippo, Sir Hammer, Mikeblue, Laserblue, Afroboy, Hammerbro
2 – YorkshireBlue (Trickpony, Wesmancity)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
1 – TCH (Bluestars)

Dead players
StevenRyals: George Mason – Townie – Lynched on day 1

It is now Night 1.

The deadline for night choices and communication is Monday at 6pm. Anybody with night powers can now use them
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 06, 2008, 06:40:59 PM
[size=8]04:00[/size]

A few hours pass in which time it has been manic at CTU with all the recent activity. With so much going on people are coming in and out thick and fast and it takes people a little while to realise that certain people have gone missing. Surprisingly at almost exactly the same time 3 different CTU operatives stumble across the bodies of 3 different people in different areas of the building. Somebody also turns up at CTU medical with a gunshot wound to his arm. He says that he was shot whilst on a mission that night.

Dead players
StevenRyals: George Mason – Townie – Lynched on day 1
Hammerbro: Ramon Salazar – Cult leader – Shot in the leg and head on night 1
TCH: Bill Buchanan – Townie – Shot through head on night 1
Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard – Shot in the back on night 1

Players still alive (11)
Mikeblue
Sir Hammer
MiasG
Bluestars
Hippo
Happy Axeman
Trick Pony
Afroboy
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

It is now Day 2. It will take 6 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 06, 2008, 07:27:24 PM
bad night
there as to be evil in the steven ryals votes
HappyAxeman,miasg, hippo, sir hammer, Mikeblue, afroboy

i will have a read through see if i can see anything
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 06, 2008, 07:41:51 PM
I've thought about it today....it's been a FOREVER long day one...it's still going....if I think back to things and go over and over things in my mind....I can like I've said before come up with...well he's not so active...then those folks come up and post....then I go with the well he's being aggressive...then those types back off...then there are the typical investigative types digging at everyone....and then I say...well at least they are helping get information...so I can be swayed either way on lots of players.

Of all the things that have happened, the admission that Miasg is Jack Bauer was the most significant...there have been no other players to refute his claim...and at this point I can't imagine one reason a townie wouldn't simply confront Miasg if he was a liar...I can't think of this game being played without Jack exisiting...therefo re I can't think of any way that he is lying and shouldn't be believed.

That being said...as annoying as some other players have been to this point...there is only one thing that overall seems just blatantly ignorant. Hate to say it, but looking back TCH you calling Miasg out as Jack when I specifically told everyone early on that if we suspected as townies another townie to have a powerful role...we should keep it mum....we've gone over and over this a million times....but I just can't see why TCH would do this....I just don't get it...and all of the discussions I've never felt he really convinces me that him doing that made any sense. It was obvious that TP had got Miasg ticked off....so his motivation however ill concieved it was to roleclaim...the fact he did was still vauge.

That being said...no matter what is going on with folks wanting a deadline, wanting miasg to pick, wanting this or that...and all of us at this point just want day one to end....I'm just voting based off of the only truly bizarre move of this whole game....and will therefore VOTE TCH

I'll probably be gone for the weekend....I'm not going to try to convince anyone to force a lynch, deadline, vote this way or that way....I'm just simply telling you folks....I'm getting annoyed this game is going on so long, but I still can't just put my vote out there without feeling I've at least thought it over and have as valid a reason as possible since it is only day one.
this abit weird its only acouple of posts after the steven ryals terrorist claim and its not mentioned
also voted tch who turns out to be town
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 06, 2008, 08:03:28 PM
Excuse me for being a bit thick but why the heck did Steve basically commit suicide? Just bored or what.
Another thing in curries post the dead town are highlighted green and thedead cult leader in red does that mean the cult leader counts as mafia or is it it's own entity.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 06, 2008, 08:22:38 PM
Actually I didn't respond to Steven's post because I live with him listen to his jokes all day....and got that what he posted was a joke...he was bored with the game and annoyed...and I saw that Curriman said day was not over...and so honestly didn't see any point in responding...I always figured Steven to be town and had no reason to go after him. What I didn't think is that TCH would turn out to be town...I mean as with anything on day one it's a guess...but honestly like my post says...there was something about him calling Miasg out as Jack Bauer that didn't make sense to me....I really had convinced myself he was the serial killer....so that shocked me a bit.

But I am totally confused a bit about how many deaths...steven a lynch....then how did the others go out? I'm thinking that honestly looking at the deaths tells a great deal....remember the mention by someone I actually think it was Steven...not sure I'll have to look or Miasg that said there could be two mafias and a SK...with so many deaths you'd have to assume that something of that nature is true....can you have a game with a serial killer and a cult leader? I have not played in a game with a cult that I've survived past the first day...so I am totally not sure how that goes...now all I know is that we have alot of town deaths...and the only plus for town is that the cult leader is dead.

Also I guess I am wondering why Miasg survived the night? Seemed as though I assumed he'd have been taken out...but maybe too obvious a target? Either way...Steven being a mason means he'd have a partner I assume...see no reason for that person to come out at this point.

Not sure what else I think...it's Monday here and have to digest all of this...wow...this game is going to be really confusing I can see now...so different than others I've played in.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 06, 2008, 09:27:53 PM
Another thing in curries post the dead town are highlighted green and the dead cult leader in red does that mean the cult leader counts as mafia or is it it's own entity.
Just to clarify, green = townies, red = anything but townies. They all come under the same brush in this game :D
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 06, 2008, 10:00:51 PM
ok thanks for clearing that up. My monies still on TP, he was totally gunning for TCH and Miasg, and now we know TCH was town and everyone is pretty sure Maisg is town after his role claim.

As for who else is mafia I'm still not sure, looking back on what axeman said about both him and I being added after the roles had been given out, he said something about we have probably both been given town roles, which couuld be true, but it also stands to reason that if you add an extra two players that you might add one on either side, so at this stage I'm not ruling axeman out as possible mafia
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 06, 2008, 11:05:39 PM
Hammer can you explain this??

Hammer you are completely off base. 

also, got your hidden message, noted..  (or maybe just a slipup??)

then his next post read this....

KILL MIASG

:)

wanted to wait, but..  terrorism is cool i guess..

What did steve mean by this?

you shall see sir.. you shall see

What does he know!!

My death post...

arg...  gurgle...  hopefully the town will have the info they need from my lynch....   now I wont get fired... I can call in DEAD!!  lol...




There is somthing not right, why would steve do this? he said it would help the town, so my option at the moment is to VOTE HAMMER
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 06, 2008, 11:38:09 PM
I thought TCH was serial killer as well .. that's why he's dead.  I'm pretty sure TP is town.

OK mafia kill laserblue and I'd say hammerbro tried to recruit the mafia leader - that's how I died as cult leader on night 1 last game.

I voted for steven straight up after his post but when I thought about it that he and I weren't dead I was going to unvote him but it was already too late - that why I said stop typing ..

Bluestars I'd say I'm alive because the mafia didn't go for me assuming the doctor would save me anyway. Steven was sure you were OK so that's good enough for me for now.

I'm going to have a think about who hammerbro might have been recruiting... I'm thinking Sir hammer, Axeman, or Hippo straight up ... 

Either way...Steven being a mason means he'd have a partner I assume...see no reason for that person to come out at this point.
  his name was george mason I don't think he is a mason
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 07, 2008, 12:24:30 AM
ok thanks for clearing that up. My monies still on TP, he was totally gunning for TCH and Miasg, and now we know TCH was town and everyone is pretty sure Maisg is town after his role claim.

As for who else is mafia I'm still not sure, looking back on what axeman said about both him and I being added after the roles had been given out, he said something about we have probably both been given town roles, which couuld be true, but it also stands to reason that if you add an extra two players that you might add one on either side, so at this stage I'm not ruling axeman out as possible mafia

Zulu if you knew TCH in RL you could have easily seen his playing style had changed from his typical townie way... I have already said I am a townie and cant see why the mafia didnt target me during the night phase, basing me as a target because I was sus on TCH is understandable but voting me would be supid as we have lost so many townies on night one... I think we need to look at who was working with Hammerbro either defending him or agreeing with him and who they were targeting...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 07, 2008, 12:46:36 AM
I find it very interesting to see who hasnt posted after the night phase... probably because they knew the result of the night  ??? There will be a few of you who will be mafia / non town for sure... I presume at this stage that everyone who has posted at the start of day two is townie apart from Zulu at this stage...

I cant see why a townie wouldnt have logged on to see the night actions

Players still alive (11)

Townies at this stage / people who have posted during day two so far :
MiasG - townie - JB
Bluestars - townie
Trick Pony - townie
Masterzulu - has posted but still in my suspect list

Mafia / non townies at this stage :
Mikeblue
Sir Hammer
Hippo
Happy Axeman
Afroboy
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue

The most obvious mafia targets are Sir Hammer / Happy Axeman because they are the most experienced from this group and would have probably known not to target MIASG during the night phase.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 07, 2008, 01:01:10 AM
TP you say you suspect me but you don't say why. I've given you my reason for suspecting you, at least give me a right to reply by telling me why I am suspect
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 01:05:21 AM
TP wes and YB have posted on day 2 .. in fact YB was the first in - which I find ironic seeing how he wasn't around on day 1.   now I have 30 pages to read back through ..


Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 07, 2008, 01:29:49 AM
TP wes and YB have posted on day 2 .. in fact YB was the first in - which I find ironic seeing how he wasn't around on day 1.   now I have 30 pages to read back through ..


woops missed them, remove them from my FOS list for now...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 07, 2008, 01:39:35 AM
TP you say you suspect me but you don't say why. I've given you my reason for suspecting you, at least give me a right to reply by telling me why I am suspect

MZ your sus because of your vote on me from the first day, I cant see your logic in voting me for attacking TCH and MIASG at first, once I had worked out MIASG was town I went after TCH, TCH seriously made himself look evil when he outed MIASG as JB, which is why I was certain TCH was mafia/non town, as I cant see why a townie would out another townie if they knew who they were, he didnt need to but he did, I thought TCH was a serial killer or cult leader but I was wrong on both.  Now your still sus from your vote and nothing you can say will change that for now... we need to move on and look at voting patterns/ who defended who at this stage. I will look over it later today / tonight and post my suspicions. I just though it was interesting before to highlight the list of people who hadnt posted even though I missed those two thanks MIASG for pointing them out, the new list is, quite interesting, they will be the main focus ;

Mafia / non townies at this stage :
Mikeblue
Sir Hammer
Hippo
Happy Axeman
Afroboy
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 01:49:40 AM
Once again while TP is being silly I'm sure he's town.  This is a new day kiddies .. looking at who voted off steven there are 3 def townies .. TCH, Laserblue, and me   .. and cult leader in hammerbro.  Surely you other voters must see that at least one of the remaining voters must be mafia.  My gut feeling is hammerbro tried to recruit Der Hammer .. just a gut feeling for now but I'm still going back through 30 pages. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 07, 2008, 07:42:12 AM
Am i looking to much in to hammers post here?

At least someone noticed. Steven is one of the players that the majority dont like to even challenge. In this case I think I put forward a theory that was completely ignored and makes sense with every action.

1.Miasg came out as Bauer, and after some shocking play from Yorkshire, was looking at Yorkshire at his main target.
2.Steven told Miasg to pick one townie, and the rest of the town would fall in line and lynch him.
3.Me and a few others criticised that plan, so it was dropped.
4.Miasg eventually does choose Yorkshire, but now the town is unsure so doesnt fall in line.


Who looks suspicious in this sequence? Steven knew Miasg would pick Yorkshire when he said it so to me that indicates either Steven is a cop with a Guilty on Yorkshire, or he is a mafia member who knows Yorkshire is Innocent, and spots an easy lynch which he cant be blamed for since "Jack Bauer ordered everyone to". I unvoted Steven out of frustration since until now, absolutely no one has even looked at my claims.

Perhaps him and Hippo could be part of a dangerous mafia and playing a very smart game. Hippo has not got his teeth into anyone yet like he normally does, but there has not been a single. major defining issue so maybe thats why, but I still have some doubts about the both of them.

If Yorkshire does get lynched, and turns up town, then in my mind that just puts more weight onto my suspiscions of Steven.


Also those criticising people for "being too scared" to get on the bandwagon, shut up! Not everyone thinks Yorkshire is mafia, so everyone doesnt want to be associated with a bad lynch. We have investigated too much in this day now, and we need the right result, or at least a result that puts us in good stead for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 07, 2008, 10:02:55 AM
I cant see why a townie wouldnt have logged on to see the night actions

I haven't posted because i have darts on monday nights, rather than not wanting to see what had happened. I was on at about half 6, but it wasn't up then, so couldn't wait. Hammer also plays darts, Mikeblue only ever seems to post in the daytime, and that leaves Axeman, who i don't know about. But it's a ridiculous way to make a list of suspects. Surely you could say those who did post were eager to see if their kill had been successful, or if they'd survived?

I'm going to have a think about who hammerbro might have been recruiting... I'm thinking Sir hammer, Axeman, or Hippo straight up ... 

Agree with the logic, but it's not me this time. I know you can't just take my word for it, but Hammerbro voted for me on day one, and it wouldn't make much sense to try and recruit those you're suspicious of. It'd be someone who wasn't suspected. Could be Hammer, because he fits that criteria, and is obviously Hammerbro's bro, so a prime target. But, surely your own name should be on this list? I know i'd have tried to recruit the one confirmed innocent if i was Hammerbro. Maybe you can't be swayed to evil yourself, as Bauer.

I also agree that there'll be evil on the Ryals voting list. But it's a bit random to judge. Other than wes and bluestars, who said she thought it was a joke, so ignored it - why not point this out to everyone else at the time, by the way? - everyone who saw what Steve did voted. The ones who didn't vote are the ones who weren't online, so i don't think we should make them out as some sort of good based on that.

Wes, what are you actually saying in your last post?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 07, 2008, 10:48:51 AM
Wes, what are you actually saying in your last post?

Steve said there was a hidden message in Hammers post which could of been a slip up. Now i bolded in my previous post what i think Steve was talking about.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 07, 2008, 10:52:51 AM
Hammer can you explain this??

then his next post read this....

What did steve mean by this?

What does he know!!

There is something not right, why would steve do this? he said it would help the town, so my option at the moment is to VOTE HAMMER

Unvote me you berk! Steve clearly got bored and just got himself killed. It didn't help the town at all and it told us nothing because everyone that looked voted him.

At least someone noticed. Steven is one of the players that the majority dont like to even challenge. In this case I think I put forward a theory that was completely ignored and makes sense with every action.

1.Miasg came out as Bauer, and after some shocking play from Yorkshire, was looking at Yorkshire at his main target.
2.Steven told Miasg to pick one townie, and the rest of the town would fall in line and lynch him.
3.Me and a few others criticised that plan, so it was dropped.
4.Miasg eventually does choose Yorkshire, but now the town is unsure so doesnt fall in line.


Who looks suspicious in this sequence? Steven knew Miasg would pick Yorkshire when he said it so to me that indicates either Steven is a cop with a Guilty on Yorkshire, or he is a mafia member who knows Yorkshire is Innocent, and spots an easy lynch which he cant be blamed for since "Jack Bauer ordered everyone to". I unvoted Steven out of frustration since until now, absolutely no one has even looked at my claims.

Perhaps him and Hippo could be part of a dangerous mafia and playing a very smart game. Hippo has not got his teeth into anyone yet like he normally does, but there has not been a single. major defining issue so maybe thats why, but I still have some doubts about the both of them.

If Yorkshire does get lynched, and turns up town, then in my mind that just puts more weight onto my suspiscions of Steven.


Also those criticising people for "being too scared" to get on the bandwagon, shut up! Not everyone thinks Yorkshire is mafia, so everyone doesnt want to be associated with a bad lynch. We have investigated too much in this day now, and we need the right result, or at least a resu
lt that puts us in good stead for tomorrow.

This is the post where Steven said he saw my "hidden message". Draw your own conclusions.

Steve said there was a hidden message in Hammers post which could of been a slip up. Now i bolded in my previous post what i think Steve was talking about.

What does that even mean?

"absolutely no one has even looked at my claims."  is the line that makes me evil in your eyes? How so?

___________________ ___________________ ___________

I find it very interesting to see who hasnt posted after the night phase... probably because they knew the result of the night  ??? There will be a few of you who will be mafia / non town for sure... I presume at this stage that everyone who has posted at the start of day two is townie apart from Zulu at this stage...

I cant see why a townie wouldnt have logged on to see the night actions

The most obvious mafia targets are Sir Hammer / Happy Axeman because they are the most experienced from this group and would have probably known not to target MIASG during the night phase.

Absolute nonsense..

All day Monday I was in Uni, then playing darts. This is the first chance I've had to see what happened and I'm very surprised to see all the deaths. When you say that Axeman, and I are the most obvious mafia targets because we would have known not to target Miasg, that insults everyone else playing? Miasg appears to be Jack Bauer...I think everyone can work out attacking him would be a mistake.
Another poor reason to accuse me.

Once again while TP is being silly I'm sure he's town.  This is a new day kiddies .. looking at who voted off steven there are 3 def townies .. TCH, Laserblue, and me   .. and cult leader in hammerbro.  Surely you other voters must see that at least one of the remaining voters must be mafia.  My gut feeling is hammerbro tried to recruit Der Hammer .. just a gut feeling for now but I'm still going back through 30 pages.  

Everyone that saw what Steven had done had voted him except Bluestars who strangely just ignored it completely because clearly he just told her he was joking. I suspected him early in the day, so when he appeared to have made a terrorist attack I voted him, same as the others. I'm sure someone on the voters list is mafia but only because there were alot on the list. Steven pointlessly committed suicide thinking it would somehow trap the mafia, when it was just a waste of time. Tells us nothing because everyone that saw it voted him....plus "Jack" I am assuming it was you that killed TCH since you probably are a Vigilante. Hopefully you can not kill a townie tonight.
Maybe Hammerbro did try and recruit me, but since my character has a gun I could have shot him? Normally in my games I assign the Mafia, and a select few townie power roles with guns that protect them from Cult. Also my character in the series is possibility the most loyal person on the show and its unlikely he would be able to be recruited. I prepared to claim if I have to save my skin.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Quig on October 07, 2008, 11:04:54 AM
DAMN YOU ALL! CTU will never be safe.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 07, 2008, 11:33:03 AM
Unvote me you berk!

Erm! No....and less of the insults it will not get you anywhere
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 12:07:45 PM
But, surely your own name should be on this list? I know i'd have tried to recruit the one confirmed innocent if i was Hammerbro. Maybe you can't be swayed to evil yourself, as Bauer.

Wes, what are you actually saying in your last post?
yeah true but if that's the case I didn't know about it .. I was thinking about that since my last post .. I would have tried to recruit me if I was cult leader - then again there was a good case that I was dead on night 1 ..  agree with your comment on Wes's last post - made no sense mate.

sorry about the name changes   ;D I promise I'll change back soon enough
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 12:11:42 PM
To say I am evil because I didn't post yesterday is a bit much realy isn't it??? FOS TP for the most ridiculous conclusion ever!

Well that was not a good night phase for us was it people. Steve didn't really help us at all but at least he did get the game moving along I guess which I think was his aim.

Well I wonder if there is a serial killer as my take on it is that with a cult I doubt there is a serial killer. I would have thought the Vigilante may have killed TCH mafia took out Laserblue and Hammersbro tried to recruit mafia and died as a result.....

Will have to go back and have a look but I'm thinking at this moment that Hamersbro would most likely try and recruit his brother and Sir Hammer really went hell for leather at Steve at one stage in day one after being fairly quiet for him. He also protected YB a lot so I think we lynch Sir Hammer as I'm sure he is mafia and then go after YB if Sir Hammer does turn out to be mafia!

VOTE SIRHAMMER
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 12:18:07 PM
Maybe Hammerbro did try and recruit me, but since my character has a gun I could have shot him? Normally in my games I assign the Mafia, and a select few townie power roles with guns that protect them from Cult. Also my character in the series is possibility the most loyal person on the show and its unlikely he would be able to be recruited. I prepared to claim if I have to save my skin.
this is like my role claim without claiming .. and yes I do believe I've already said TCH was because of me.  I was tossing up between a few but his play seemed most suss .. and with steven being a town some people he believed was also townie (ie bluestars for one) saved them from my sights in the night.  I honestly believed that TCH wasn't mafia but either cult or serial killer ... which persuaded me to vote for him over someone else.

Wes did you read all of Sir Hammer's last post?  do you think that he is bluffing and actually mafia trying to convince us he's town?  this isn't the first time you've pretty much posted with what looks like no consideration of what's been posted before at all.  FOS WESMANCITY

Will have to go back and have a look but I'm thinking at this moment that Hamersbro would most likely try and recruit his brother and Sir Hammer really went hell for leather at Steve at one stage in day one after being fairly quiet for him. He also protected YB a lot so I think we lynch Sir Hammer as I'm sure he is mafia and then go after YB if Sir Hammer does turn out to be mafia!

VOTE SIRHAMMER
same here - no consideration to what hammer has said .. FOS Mikeblue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 12:23:13 PM
this is like my role claim without claiming .. and yes I do believe I've already said TCH was because of me.  I was tossing up between a few but his play seemed most suss .. and with steven being a town some people he believed was also townie (ie bluestars for one) saved them from my sights in the night.  I honestly believed that TCH wasn't mafia but either cult or serial killer ... which persuaded me to vote for him over someone else.

Wes did you read all of Sir Hammer's last post?  do you think that he is bluffing and actually mafia trying to convince us he's town?  this isn't the first time you've pretty much posted with what looks like no consideration of what's been posted before at all.  FOS WESMANCITY
 same here - no consideration to what hammer has said .. FOS Mikeblue

I read what he posted and it stunk to me!!! I am SURE he is mafia he was trying to bluff us and scare us into not going after him!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 12:27:39 PM
that's fine but I would prefer you come out and say that rather than what looks like a skim. 

so mikeblue is "SURE" and hammer is ready to roll claim and has stated he has a gun ... interesting development.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 12:32:52 PM
that's fine but I would prefer you come out and say that rather than what looks like a skim. 

so mikeblue is "SURE" and hammer is ready to roll claim and has stated he has a gun ... interesting development.



Trust me he isn't ready to role claim!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 07, 2008, 12:51:24 PM
Hammer's claim does looks dodgy. I don't remember any role other than mafia or serial killer, that would be protected from a cult recruitment attempt - may be wrong. Like i said earlier, i'm not sure you actually were recruited because having Bauer revealed and protected probably every night and unlynchable, seems like too good an opportunity for a cult to miss, even if it was your brother. But you're going to have to be more explicit with your claim, because if anything, it's actually made me more suspicious of you, rather than less.

And to the artist formerly known as MIASG, you wouldn't know that there had been an attempted recruit on you (i didn't last game), or that you were immune from it (because if currie told you this, it'd be extremely obvious there was one). But i dunno, if it wasn't you, i'd say it was Hammer, but i can't believe anyone wouldn't pick you.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 07, 2008, 12:54:15 PM
To say I am evil because I didn't post yesterday is a bit much realy isn't it??? FOS TP for the most ridiculous conclusion ever!

Well that was not a good night phase for us was it people. Steve didn't really help us at all but at least he did get the game moving along I guess which I think was his aim.

Well I wonder if there is a serial killer as my take on it is that with a cult I doubt there is a serial killer. I would have thought the Vigilante may have killed TCH mafia took out Laserblue and Hammersbro tried to recruit mafia and died as a result.....

Will have to go back and have a look but I'm thinking at this moment that Hamersbro would most likely try and recruit his brother and Sir Hammer really went hell for leather at Steve at one stage in day one after being fairly quiet for him. He also protected YB a lot so I think we lynch Sir Hammer as I'm sure he is mafia and then go after YB if Sir Hammer does turn out to be mafia!

VOTE SIRHAMMER

Fair enough if someone actually had some proper opinions on why I'm mafia, but I'm going to have to ask you to explain yourself.

I posted several times in Day One with some thoughts on why Steven would suggest that we just lynch whoever Miasg picked. Steven ducked my criticism, and then decided to comment suicide in a stupid and pointless fashion. I was never fairly quiet for him, and he turned out townie which obviously reflected badly on me, but still doesn't change he acted very suspiciously.

As for protecting YB. Quote where I did? At least if your gonna form a bandwagon on me, go back and retrieve your "evidence". A few times I expressly worry about the bandwagon that was forming on Yorkshire, but never actually said that he didn't look suspicious to me. I've looked back at all my posts and cant find one proper defence of Yorkshire. All I suggested is that Steven might have been trying to get him lynched.

___________________ __

Trust me he isn't ready to role claim!

So your now pretty much saying your a cop with guilty on me? Your definitely making a mistake because your either lying or paranoid cop like in the last game? I have a role that I can prove my innocence in the night phase.
Trust me, I am ready to claim if people actually start believing you.

If we take a look at the kills...

Hammerbro - Probably died trying to recruit someone tha couldn't be recruited. I.E Mafia or Bauer
Laserblue - Killed by either Mafia or Serial Killer (highly unlikely we have another Town that can kill)
TCH-Killed by Bauer.
Unknown person shot in arm - Blatantly an attack on Miasg I think.

So clearly we have two kill attempts unexplained which we assume Mafia did one, and an SK did the other?

Well I wonder if there is a serial killer as my take on it is that with a cult I doubt there is a serial killer. I would have thought the Vigilante may have killed TCH mafia took out Laserblue and Hammersbro tried to recruit mafia and died as a result.....

Conviently doesn't mention at all the attack on the guy hit in the arm.

A few hours pass in which time it has been manic at CTU with all the recent activity. With so much going on people are coming in and out thick and fast and it takes people a little while to realise that certain people have gone missing. Surprisingly at almost exactly the same time 3 different CTU operatives stumble across the bodies of 3 different people in different areas of the building. Somebody also turns up at CTU medical with a gunshot wound to his arm. He says that he was shot whilst on a mission that night.

I think Mike might be trying to cover up the fact that theres a serial killer. Trying to hard to suggest that there isn't one to me suggests that he might be the SK himself.

Vote:Mikeblue


____
Erm! No....and less of the insults it will not get you anywhere

Sorry didn't mean to offend. I retract the Berk comment
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 07, 2008, 12:57:01 PM
Vote:Mikeblue

Will respond to Hippo's post later. Have to dash out now.

DONT LYNCH ME BEFORE I GET CHANCE TO CLAIM.

I'm town, and I'm sure Mikeblue the SK is trying to stitch me up.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 01:00:45 PM

And to the artist formerly known as MIASG, you wouldn't know that there had been an attempted recruit on you (i didn't last game), or that you were immune from it (because if currie told you this, it'd be extremely obvious there was one). But i dunno, if it wasn't you, i'd say it was Hammer, but i can't believe anyone wouldn't pick you.
yeah I know Hippo I was saying I didn't know and that I agree it cold have been me.  I was told last game that basically I could recruit whoever except mafia godfather ..  that's why I was thinking it was someone else.


Must say I've believeing hammer more than mikeblue (and wes)  .. mike are you willing to role claim? not that I'm saying to do that - yet ..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 01:01:22 PM
Vote:Mikeblue

Will respond to Hippo's post later. Have to dash out now.

DONT LYNCH ME BEFORE I GET CHANCE TO CLAIM.

I'm town, and I'm sure Mikeblue the SK is trying to stitch me up.

So from saying Zilch about me I am now getting your vote and am the serial killer???

Really lol.

I await your so called claim .....
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 01:04:05 PM
yeah I know Hippo I was saying I didn't know and that I agree it cold have been me.  I was told last game that basically I could recruit whoever except mafia godfather ..  that's why I was thinking it was someone else.


Must say I've believeing hammer more than mikeblue (and wes)  .. mike are you willing to role claim? not that I'm saying to do that - yet ..


Are you wise??? Read what I have wrote!!!

If I am wrong then lynch me the next day.

Can you not see what is infront of your eyes? If I was mafia would I be saying what I'm saying?

Some people can't see a frog until it jumps up and kicks them in the face???

What is there to believe that Sir Hammer has said??? That I am the serial killer??? Behave.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 07, 2008, 01:08:28 PM
I am the serial killer

Case closed....
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 01:12:47 PM
are you denying/confirming you are cop Mikeblue?  I get the feeling a few claims will be made today that will throw the game wide open.  Hammer is hinting he's someone like Almeda.  Giving names out to this isn't outing him either - he's claimed a loyal townie role with a gun and hinted it was a he.    Mikeblue is hinting he's a cop.   what other role could a townie have with a gun other than cop or vigilante?  

Are you wise???
no as I killed a townie in the night phase thinking he was evil as

Read what I have wrote!!!
If I am wrong then lynch me the next day.
Can you not see what is infront of your eyes? If I was mafia would I be saying what I'm saying?
Some people can't see a frog until it jumps up and kicks them in the face???
What is there to believe that Sir Hammer has said??? That I am the serial killer??? Behave.
what I'm saying he is making him believe him more than your making me believe.  I think he needs to confirm his claim now .. all your saying is believe you.  not much else.  what else do I and others have to go on?  
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 01:16:08 PM
I have a role that I can prove my innocence in the night phase.
so if your investigated you'll come back as being on our side?  could make you the godfather.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 01:16:24 PM
Case closed....

LMFAO!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 01:17:36 PM
are you denying/confirming you are cop Mikeblue?  I get the feeling a few claims will be made today that will throw the game wide open.  Hammer is hinting he's someone like Almeda.  Giving names out to this isn't outing him either - he's claimed a loyal townie role with a gun and hinted it was a he.    Mikeblue is hinting he's a cop.   what other role could a townie have with a gun other than cop or vigilante?  
 no as I killed a townie in the night phase thinking he was evil as
 what I'm saying he is making him believe him more than your making me believe.  I think he needs to confirm his claim now .. all your saying is believe you.  not much else.  what else do I and others have to go on?  

You believe me or not I guess.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 01:22:35 PM
Miasg and TCH are sticking tight... Too tight if you ask me,

Also TCH is throwing himself round a bit more than usual which is sus and like in past games miasg likes to try and change style to throw people off, I believe he has done that this time as well.

these are the only two that stand out so far for me and I think one must be evil, maybe even both.

Yorkshire looks suspicious, but the thing is he always does to me so I'm not going to jump on him quick.
No when i said they could both be mafia i actually meant evil e.g one serial killer one mafia but i know thats a very small possibility. But i still think one is mafia.

Just from having a quick look back i am suspicious of hammerbro and masterzulus early appearance then not coming back on and also i noticed axeman is taking every oppurtunity to distance himself from everyone yet no one really in particular

can't tell with steve and hippo as yet but hippo completely fooled me in the game before so i'm going to be more aware of him this time.

Steves style is already making me slightly suspicious but not enough yet, but he is like yorkshire blue with me lol.
  this is from quite early on .. afro was trying to package us together and had already FOS'd me for what I still couldn't really understand .. what would have made him think TCH or myself was mafia and the other serial killer at that stage? this is usually something the serial killer would say to announce their role and put the suspicions on others.   FOS AFROBOY.

also when in doubt 3rd poster is statisically mafia .. so that 's axeman  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 07, 2008, 01:35:47 PM
So from saying Zilch about me I am now getting your vote and am the serial killer???

Really lol.

I await your so called claim .....

That's a good point. He seems to have just been rattled by the pressure and has lashed out with a tit-for-tat vote. Although, you did try and say there was no serial killer, when it's quite clear that there is from the night activity. Well, unless we have two vigilantes - but that'd be somewhat unlikely, or somebody had a one-off kill to use, which has more potential, but still a long shot.

I want to hear what Hammer has to say anyway. Like i said earlier, i'm not convinced about what he said. I'd understand Bauer not being able to be recruited, because it's Jack Bauer. He would never be evil. But not sure about anyone else. And if the cult die recruiting mafia, bauer, sk, AND whatever Hammer's claiming, then they really weren't being given a fair chance. So it seems doubtful. But like i said, hands up who wouldn't have recruited MIASG.

3 new responses.

  this is from quite early on .. afro was trying to package us together and had already FOS'd me for what I still couldn't really understand .. what would have made him think TCH or myself was mafia and the other serial killer at that stage? this is usually something the serial killer would say to announce their role and put the suspicions on others.   FOS AFROBOY.

In fairness to him, you were grouped together because you both voted for TP straight away. I dunno what reasoning he'd be using to say one was mafia, one SK though.

You believe me or not I guess.

This is it though. Are we just believing your opinion, or are you telling us?

I have a role that I can prove my innocence in the night phase.

What does that even mean? Like MIASG said, that could just make you godfather.

Trust me, I am ready to claim if people actually start believing you.

Do it then.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 01:45:36 PM
Hippo I'm telling you.

I never said there was not a serial klller.

From first glance of Currimens post what I posted is the first conclusion I came to. To be fair I think every game I have played there has been a serial killer so it is more than likely. I didn't really understand the whole someone got shot and survived thing I thoiught it could have just been somethin Curri added to make it more interesting so didn't comment.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 01:50:40 PM
I'll admit I passed over the shot in the arm at first glance - hence no mention of SK in my first post of day 2.

Hippo I'm telling you.
then i guess I'm waiting for hammer's claim .. possibly a character the mafia might be trying to target.  Mikeblue you might have to claim after him you realise.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 01:53:02 PM
I'll admit I passed over the shot in the arm at first glance - hence no mention of SK in my first post of day 2.
 then i guess I'm waiting for hammer's claim .. possibly a character the mafia might be trying to target.  Mikeblue you might have to claim after him you realise.

Is it not already pretty obvious???

Get him lynched and see what happens.....then lynch me if you want.

I will be looking for some help in the night phase if anyone out there is listening.

I also have more information........ but that is for 2moro.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 01:58:13 PM
VOTE MASTERZULU who I noticed had logged on tonight but hasn't bothered to post in.  Dude you got an easy ride into day 2 .. your posts so far this morning I guess are passable but I expected some thoughts on the developments so far today .. you can't hide forever.   Noobs who are late arrivals aren't always town which we found out a few games ago ..

Is it not already pretty obvious???  NO IT ISN'T

Get him lynched and see what happens.....then lynch me if you want.

I will be looking for some help in the night phase if anyone out there is listening.  SO AM I :)

I also have more information........ but that is for 2moro.
why are you keeping information until tomorrow?  holding it for ransom?  not very smart and puts a bigger target on you.  what if you go in the day or night phase?  surely giving the town what ever information you have will assist us in believing your claims or at least offer an opinion. 

what I might do is tell who I'm targeting in the the next night phase to give them the opportunity to persuade me otherwise .. just a thought early on day 2.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 02:04:03 PM
VOTE MASTERZULU who I noticed had logged on tonight but hasn't bothered to post in.  Dude you got an easy ride into day 2 .. your posts so far this morning I guess are passable but I expected some thoughts on the developments so far today .. you can't hide forever.   Noobs who are late arrivals aren't always town which we found out a few games ago ..
 why are you keeping information until tomorrow?  holding it for ransom?  not very smart and puts a bigger target on you.  what if you go in the day or night phase?  surely giving the town what ever information you have will assist us in believing your claims or at least offer an opinion. 

what I might do is tell who I'm targeting in the the next night phase to give them the opportunity to persuade me otherwise .. just a thought early on day 2.



It isn't obvious??? Jeese Louise.

I will reveal when the time is right. Can learn more by not revealing it just yet. Voting patternes etc....
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 07, 2008, 02:07:05 PM
I also have more information........ but that is for 2moro.

Hmm. We've had one night phase. How've you got two decent bits of information?

I think i believe you though, wouldn't seem to have much point to this whole thing if you weren't telling the truth. Just waiting to see what Hammer says though.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 07, 2008, 02:09:10 PM
Hmm. We've had one night phase. How've you got two decent bits of information?

I think i believe you though, wouldn't seem to have much point to this whole thing if you weren't telling the truth. Just waiting to see what Hammer says though.

You know what he is going to say.......LIES lol. He ain't going to come on and admit he is Mafia scum is he lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 07, 2008, 05:30:31 PM
I am Aaron Pierce, Special Agent with the Secret Service. I am a Town Roleblocker.
Assigned to protect the President who cannot be killed at night while I am alive. I am a personal friend of Jack Bauer, and one of the President's most trusted allies. Using my weapons, and Navy training, I must protect the president and root out the enemies.
Hopefully I don't get modkilled for quoting near enough my role.

That's my role so I'm sure that Mikeblue is either bad playing a risky game or he is another Paranoid Cop like we had in recent games. There are plenty of characters in 24's history that could easily be a Paranoid Cop, or Insane Cop. Chappelle, Almeida or any of the agents at CTU other than Jack that constantly get things wrong.

If I am lynched then the town has lost...I know that sounds too bad, but look at the figures.
We have 11 people left.

1. I am innocent and get lynched
2. Miasg kills a townie by mistake at night
3. The Mafia and SK both hit a townie

That's potentially 4 dead townies by Day Three which will leave 7 people left, including at least a 2-4 team Mafia and a SK. Even Bauer will be overwhelmed and game over....

Mikeblue, if you are a cop at least question whether your character could be paranoid because its really important. I think this is all just distracting us from the real mafia who are laughing at us all.

so if your investigated you'll come back as being on our side?  could make you the godfather.

No, I was saying I have a role that I can prove over the nightphase by blocking someone. I'm not the godfather.

I assume gave a clue to who I was early on when I doubted that your character had been in all the series. My Character and your character are actually the only two characters that have been in them all.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 07, 2008, 10:17:05 PM
if that's a bogus role claim it's a good one .. so your night action is keep the president alive ...


Mike I know this is playing into the mafia's hands but I think you need to come clean on who you are .. if you are town  then at least we won't have to kill town during day and take our chances at night ..

I'd like to see some thoughts reactions from Happy and Bluestars etc.

Mike you also haven't answered to my satisfaction my question and hippos's about the  information you say you have.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 07, 2008, 11:13:03 PM
This game has gone to the bollocks!!, why dont we all role claim and then we would know whos mafia wouldnt we?

Right whos next?


So Misag aka (trick Pony is a c*nt) Town
Hammer - Town Role Blocker
Wesmancity aka me - Town

The rest.......


Mikeblue 
Bluestars
Hippo
Happy Axeman
Trick Pony         
Afroboy
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

??????
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 07, 2008, 11:18:10 PM
VOTE MASTERZULU who I noticed had logged on tonight but hasn't bothered to post in.  Dude you got an easy ride into day 2 .. your posts so far this morning I guess are passable but I expected some thoughts on the developments so far today .. you can't hide forever.   Noobs who are late arrivals aren't always town which we found out a few games ago ..

Bit of a rash vote don't you think? I posted as soon as the thread was unlocked yesterday evening as I was eager to find out what happened during the night, today I have been reading the posts on my iPhone at work, I've said a few times previously that I can only read and not post whilst I'm at work. I'm gonna give up visiting this site during work as its giving me nothing but hassle.

Seems very strange to vote me before we've even heard from some of the other players still alive.

So we have lost 3 townies and 1 mafia so far, so I'm trying to figure out what we may have left on each side, do the games normally start out with a 50/50 split of town/mafia or are the numbers in the towns favor as I suspect?

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 07, 2008, 11:38:54 PM
This game has gone to the bollocks!!, why dont we all role claim and then we would know whos mafia wouldnt we?

Right whos next?


So Misag aka (trick Pony is a c*nt) Town
Hammer - Town Role Blocker
Wesmancity aka me - Town

The rest.......


Mikeblue 
Bluestars
Hippo
Happy Axeman
Trick Pony         
Afroboy
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

??????

hehe Wes that may as well be my list as I have no fricking idea where to go from here.
But I'm gonna stick my neck out and throw out a list of where I think people stand at the mo.

Town
Miasg (Roleclaim)
Sir Hammer (Roleclaim)
Mikeblue (Possible cop - I know for sure we have a cop out there somewhere still)
Masterzulu
Yorkshire Blue
Bluestars

Mafia
HappyAxeman (Not much to go on but I'm sticking with my theory that we both didn't get town roles)
Wesmancity (The back and forth with Axeman earlier on looked a bit sus to me)
Hippo (Just a guess)
Trick Pony (You are still on my mafia list untill something stands out to make you look like town)
Afroboy (dunno, just a hunch)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 08, 2008, 12:37:02 AM
unvote masterzulu dude I just want to see more interaction from you

mine is .. town

Misag - jack
Hammer - Town Role Blocker - Aaron
Mikeblue  - possible cop
trick pony

possible - bluestars - steven defended strongly though I have doubts
YB - laserblue defended strongly

rest ..
Hippo
Happy Axeman
Afroboy
Masterzulu
Wes - not really a role claim now is it.

Hmm. We've had one night phase. How've you got two decent bits of information?
I think i believe you though, wouldn't seem to have much point to this whole thing if you weren't telling the truth. Just waiting to see what Hammer says though.
Hippo do you believe hammer since you believe mikeblue ?

Afro I'm still very suss on ..

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 08, 2008, 02:15:07 AM
I haven't posted because i have darts on monday nights, rather than not wanting to see what had happened. I was on at about half 6, but it wasn't up then, so couldn't wait. Hammer also plays darts, Mikeblue only ever seems to post in the daytime, and that leaves Axeman, who i don't know about. But it's a ridiculous way to make a list of suspects. Surely you could say those who did post were eager to see if their kill had been successful, or if they'd survived?

true, which would then include wes and YB again... its not ridiculous, they just wouldnt expect someone to think about it.... its just something extra to look into.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 08, 2008, 02:20:15 AM
To say I am evil because I didn't post yesterday is a bit much realy isn't it??? FOS TP for the most ridiculous conclusion ever!

Well that was not a good night phase for us was it people. Steve didn't really help us at all but at least he did get the game moving along I guess which I think was his aim.

Well I wonder if there is a serial killer as my take on it is that with a cult I doubt there is a serial killer. I would have thought the Vigilante may have killed TCH mafia took out Laserblue and Hammersbro tried to recruit mafia and died as a result.....

Will have to go back and have a look but I'm thinking at this moment that Hamersbro would most likely try and recruit his brother and Sir Hammer really went hell for leather at Steve at one stage in day one after being fairly quiet for him. He also protected YB a lot so I think we lynch Sir Hammer as I'm sure he is mafia and then go after YB if Sir Hammer does turn out to be mafia!

VOTE SIRHAMMER

It was because you probably already knew what was going to happen so you just didnt bother to log on...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 08, 2008, 09:26:27 AM
I want to hear from Mikeblue, unfortunatley he will have to probably role claim otherwise I will have to believe Sir Hammer... his claim looks pretty good at this stage.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 08, 2008, 09:56:30 AM
Hippo do you believe hammer since you believe mikeblue ?

I'd like to point out, i'm not 100% believing anyone at the moment.

Hammer's claim seems very solid, but let's not just believe it - they could have been given safe names to claim, and having modded so many games, he'd be pretty decent at coming up with a convincing role to go along with it. Aaron Pierce would have been a name i expected to actually have a character though.

I still want an answer to my question to mikeblue, because he seemed to just avoid it. How can you possibly have two pieces of good information, after one nightphase? Are you lying?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 11:10:47 AM
Well this is going to throw a big spanner in the works!!!

I could investigate before the game started and I investigated....... ...Hippo. He came back as innocent and Sir Hammer came back as guilty last night.  8)

I am not ruling out the fact I might be a paranoid cop and I honestly for some reason believe Sir Hammer. Guess there is only one way to find out and then at least we will know!

UNVOTE SIR HAMMER VOTE HIPPO
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 08, 2008, 11:11:22 AM
Right 4 pages so far in this day...

Not a good lynch for us, but after Stevens claim(what a knob! why did he do it, the day was going well) , not much else we could of done was there? Bluestars never said she knew he was joking despite posting directly after him. And wes couldnt be arsed commentating on it either... bit strange methinks.
and then its Not a good following night for us.
Only bonus being we have prevented the cult from obtaining a dangerous foothold.

Looking on the nights events, Its obvious Miasg took out TCH, who incidently i didnt see as being evil and was caught up in the bullshit and slander caused by other players which often happens when mafia chip in with other peoples conflicts, and some people just cannot see what is really happening.
Laserblue's death, could it be that he died whilst protecting someone?... his role was town bodygaurd.

As for who else is mafia I'm still not sure, looking back on what axeman said about both him and I being added after the roles had been given out, he said something about we have probably both been given town roles, which couuld be true, but it also stands to reason that if you add an extra two players that you might add one on either side, so at this stage I'm not ruling axeman out as possible mafia
lol I see what your trying to do here, you have been given a mafia henchman role, and youve picked up on what i have said, and seen conflict from others attacking me for my claim... and now see fit to plant seeds to try and stitch me up...

I'm going to have a think about who hammerbro might have been recruiting... I'm thinking Sir hammer, Axeman, or Hippo straight up ... 
Why would he go for me? I'm a very highprofile target, there was many people in the first day who suspect me, why recruit someone who is such a high risk?

Wes did you read all of Sir Hammer's last post?  do you think that he is bluffing and actually mafia trying to convince us he's town?  this isn't the first time you've pretty much posted with what looks like no consideration of what's been posted before at all.  FOS WESMANCITY
 same here - no consideration to what hammer has said .. FOS Mikeblue
Wes still hasnt answered the question posed by both of us from day1, he is constantly trying to wriggle out of things, changes his mind like the wind. He is my clear favourite for a day2 lynch.

Are you wise??? Read what I have wrote!!!

If I am wrong then lynch me the next day.

Can you not see what is infront of your eyes? If I was mafia would I be saying what I'm saying?

Some people can't see a frog until it jumps up and kicks them in the face???

What is there to believe that Sir Hammer has said??? That I am the serial killer??? Behave.
so your saying to lynch a possible town, so mafia will by the have the game almost won? so yes, if you are mafia, you would be saying the things you are saying. You too Mikeblue, cannot see the wood for the trees.

  this is from quite early on .. afro was trying to package us together and had already FOS'd me for what I still couldn't really understand .. what would have made him think TCH or myself was mafia and the other serial killer at that stage? this is usually something the serial killer would say to announce their role and put the suspicions on others.   FOS AFROBOY.
I suspect Afroboy to be evil, to get at afroboy you first have to fight his dad! lol

This game has gone to the bollocks!!, why dont we all role claim and then we would know whos mafia wouldnt we?

Right whos next?


So Misag aka (trick Pony is a c*nt) Town
Hammer - Town Role Blocker
Wesmancity aka me - Town

The rest.......


Mikeblue 
Bluestars
Hippo
Happy Axeman
Trick Pony         
Afroboy
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

??????
You scared of everyone roleclaiming wes? Although not really in the spirit of the game, Only mafia would be scared of that scenario in this theme based game.

I still want an answer to my question to mikeblue, because he seemed to just avoid it. How can you possibly have two pieces of good information, after one nightphase? Are you lying?
I think he could very well be lying(or be paranoid). But If he has 2 pieces of good information, then one would suspect he had a pre-game investigation and he placed it on Yorkie... I have my doubts about mikeblue, he seemed ruffled by my called 'style', as did wes...

so people are making lists? ok heres mine.
DEFFO TOWN
ME
MIASG

Probable Town
DerHammer - Is the only player in day1 that i was confident was town.

Suspected Mafia/Evil:
Wesmancity - The guy is playing like he is evil. I can smell his fear...
Mikeblue - He confuses himself, and calls people blind when he cant see things himself.
Afroboy - Guilty, Hid behind his dad, now his dad has gone he needs to come out and speak.
ZULU - I am now beginning to doubt like Zulu says, that both late signees were good.


Anyone else I'm not sure either way, and remain suspects.

VOTE WESMANCITY
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 08, 2008, 11:17:53 AM
Well this is going to throw a big spanner in the works!!!

I could investigate before the game started and I investigated....... ...Hippo. He came back as innocent and Sir Hammer came back as guilty last night.  8)

I am not ruling out the fact I might be a paranoid cop and I honestly for some reason believe Sir Hammer. Guess there is only one way to find out and then at least we will know!

UNVOTE SIR HAMMER VOTE HIPPO
I know i havent commentated on hippo in my last post, but i do suspect him, he is playing strange.
but your post has just completly got me confused.
I suspect Hammer of being Town(and its a decent roleclaim), yet you have a Guilty? and Hippo is 'Town'?

I thought paranoid cop gets all guilty? maybe you have a result reversal cop?
but if your claiming cop, why havent you revealed your name?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 11:25:41 AM
Well the way I see it is that if I was paranoid they would both come back the same.

I may have a cop reversal role yes. I'm kinda of thinking that myself. With what has happened I think the only way forward is to lynch Hippo. Would be a tough call to lynch Sir Hammer after his claim.

Either way we will know something. We might even get lucky and Hippo be the Godfather as he has played that kind of game where he could be. Then we still have the info on Sir Hammer to come back to. And maybe some more after tonight.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 11:27:23 AM
I have never watched 24 so maybe my name will shed some light for you guys that know the series on whether I could be a dodgy cop.

I am Tony Almeid and I am a member of CTU?

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 08, 2008, 11:28:29 AM
Wes still hasnt answered the question posed by both of us from day1, he is constantly trying to wriggle out of things

VOTE WESMANCITY

Happy, why havent you told the town why you keep putting words in my mouth and when questioned youre not answering? i have asked you a number of time why you keep doing this and you have not answerd.

And whats the question you want me to answer? fire away or are we gonna forget like always or will it take you a couple of days like the norm with your posts?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 08, 2008, 11:40:15 AM
Well the way I see it is that if I was paranoid they would both come back the same.

I may have a cop reversal role yes. I'm kinda of thinking that myself. With what has happened I think the only way forward is to lynch Hippo. Would be a tough call to lynch Sir Hammer after his claim.

Either way we will know something. We might even get lucky and Hippo be the Godfather as he has played that kind of game where he could be. Then we still have the info on Sir Hammer to come back to. And maybe some more after tonight.
you know what mike, I think you may of selected well with your investigations. the more i think about it, the more I'm convinced we have the godfather and a henchman on our radar.
at first look it seems crazy to go for hippo, he has afterall got an innocent verdict if you are who you actually say you are! but I do see the bizarre logic just because of the way Hippo is playing... the more i read back, the more i can see Hippo and Hammer bouncing off each other.

Happy, why havent you told the town why you keep putting words in my mouth and when questioned youre not answering? i have asked you a number of time why you keep doing this and you have not answerd.

And whats the question you want me to answer? fire away or are we gonna forget like always or will it take you a couple of days like the norm with your posts?
what the hell are you going on about? I'm not putting any words into your mouth.
you played like this last time you were mafia, and no-one believed me then.
you blatantly know what me and miasg keep refering too, yet you come over all bold saying your prepared to answer any question, then ignore stuff and spit out one sentance bollocks to wriggle out of it. read back yourself, and do some investigating and something productive for the town for a change.
I never back away from valid questions.
oh look, youve completly bi-passed mikeblues posts... got nothing to say about your two mafia colleagues?  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 11:49:08 AM
Wes I did think it strange with all that is going on you make no comment on it what so ever and post a stupid post about Happy..............
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 12:02:20 PM
you know what mike, I think you may of selected well with your investigations. the more i think about it, the more I'm convinced we have the godfather and a henchman on our radar.
at first look it seems crazy to go for hippo, he has afterall got an innocent verdict if you are who you actually say you are! but I do see the bizarre logic just because of the way Hippo is playing... the more i read back, the more i can see Hippo and Hammer bouncing off each other.
what the hell are you going on about? I'm not putting any words into your mouth.
you played like this last time you were mafia, and no-one believed me then.
you blatantly know what me and miasg keep refering too, yet you come over all bold saying your prepared to answer any question, then ignore stuff and spit out one sentance bollocks to wriggle out of it. read back yourself, and do some investigating and something productive for the town for a change.
I never back away from valid questions.
oh look, youve completly bi-passed mikeblues posts... got nothing to say about your two mafia colleagues?  ???


So you agree but have not changed your vote???

Are you just stirring the pot of doubt? Actions speak louder than words!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 08, 2008, 12:10:08 PM
no, I'm just waiting to see the days events unfold(hippo and hammer are both reading the thread... and must post now that ive just mentioned them!), afterall i only voted Wes a few posts ago, and we still havent had a response which suggests he is innoncent has he?  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 12:15:02 PM
Is that not abusive of Power Happy??? I can see there were 2 hidden but thought one was probably Ryalss.

Maybe they are cheating and plotting their next action as we have them by the short and curlys. Would be a great result if Hippo turned out to be Godfather lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 08, 2008, 12:16:36 PM
I have never watched 24 so maybe my name will shed some light for you guys that know the series on whether I could be a dodgy cop.

I am Tony Almeid and I am a member of CTU?



Tony Almeida's the second most reliable and loyal character in the show. There's no chance he'd be dodgy. ANYONE who has seen the show should know this.

vote sir hammer

Axeman. Having played a mafia role with me, what tactics would i use? Would it involve a change of posting style for instance? Or would it be to go all out to make it look like you're playing the same?

I'm not the godfather. I'm not mafia. I'm not evil. If you want to lynch me based on finding me innocent, fair enough. But as the mafia already know who Jack and Tony are, and have taken out the the bodyguard/protection type role, does it really make sense to kill another townie to find out someone's mafia? Hammer's lying.

He creates roles every game. The mafia get given safe names to claim. Is it really that hard to work out what he's done?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 08, 2008, 12:18:46 PM
Well the way I see it is that if I was paranoid they would both come back the same.

I may have a cop reversal role yes. I'm kinda of thinking that myself. With what has happened I think the only way forward is to lynch Hippo. Would be a tough call to lynch Sir Hammer after his claim.


I have to Unvote:Mikeblue, Vote:Hippo. I'm innocent and Aaron Pierce. If Mikeblue is being 100% honest then I am now of the sole opinion that Hippo must be mafia because I know I'm not. He is very good at lying and spinning, but don't listen to him. Tony Almeida becomes a legend in 24, but in the first season he keep fucking up and trusting the wrong people, then he got locked up for Treason in another Season. He could easily be an insane cop.

Hippo, yesterday you demanded I claim. Now I demand you claim.

If Hippo is any Mafia Member and Mike is an Insane Cop then he would come up innocent because Insane cops just always get it wrong. I know Mikeblue is wrong about me, so he must be wrong with his innocent on Hippo. I'm sure Currie had this role in his Lost Mafia.

Going out for a few hours now for Football, but will respond asap.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 12:19:16 PM
Tony Almeida's the second most reliable and loyal character in the show. There's no chance he'd be dodgy. ANYONE who has seen the show should know this.

vote sir hammer

Axeman. Having played a mafia role with me, what tactics would i use? Would it involve a change of posting style for instance? Or would it be to go all out to make it look like you're playing the same?

I'm not the godfather. I'm not mafia. I'm not evil. If you want to lynch me based on finding me innocent, fair enough. But as the mafia already know who Jack and Tony are, and have taken out the the bodyguard/protection type role, does it really make sense to kill another townie to find out someone's mafia? Hammer's lying.

He creates roles every game. The mafia get given safe names to claim. Is it really that hard to work out what he's done?

You said before you believed his role claim??? Why the change of heart???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 12:21:40 PM
Ha ha ha!!!!

I knew this would put a spanner in the works!!!

Now we must all come together and decide who to lynch I guess.

I'm swaying towards Hippo myself at the moment so my vote stands.

His las post stunk of panic after his calmness before hand.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 08, 2008, 12:24:08 PM
You said before you believed his role claim??? Why the change of heart???

Because he is threatened.....
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 08, 2008, 12:30:15 PM
You said before you believed his role claim??? Why the change of heart???

Mike. Read what i actually said.

I'd like to point out, i'm not 100% believing anyone at the moment.

Hammer's claim seems very solid, but let's not just believe it - they could have been given safe names to claim, and having modded so many games, he'd be pretty decent at coming up with a convincing role to go along with it. Aaron Pierce would have been a name i expected to actually have a character though.

And like i've said, Tony Almeida is almost up there with Jack in his reliability and loyalty in the programme. He certainly isn't someone who fits an insane cop type scenario.

Like i said before, i'm not mafia or the godfather. But i don't expect you to just believe it, after all, i never believe anything any of you lot say, and that's the way to play. BUT, essentially, you're choosing guessing (badly) about me, over lynching someone you know is mafia. Sense? Nah.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 12:30:18 PM
If you read through the last few pages I think you have to vote Hippo in all honesty.

Just look at the style he has written things in. Just stirring and never fully commiting on anything.

Would like to hear other peoples ideas though.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 12:31:30 PM
Mike. Read what i actually said.

And like i've said, Tony Almeida is almost up there with Jack in his reliability and loyalty in the programme. He certainly isn't someone who fits an insane cop type scenario.

Like i said before, i'm not mafia or the godfather. But i don't expect you to just believe it, after all, i never believe anything any of you lot say, and that's the way to play. BUT, essentially, you're choosing guessing (badly) about me, over lynching someone you know is mafia. Sense? Nah.

Think a name right this second would help rather than give you time to imagine one up if that was the case.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 08, 2008, 12:34:13 PM
Is that not abusive of Power Happy??? I can see there were 2 hidden but thought one was probably Ryalss.

Maybe they are cheating and plotting their next action as we have them by the short and curlys. Would be a great result if Hippo turned out to be Godfather lol.
no, I see there names in italic as i am admin, I took a guess that they were reading the thread. lol

Tony Almeida's the second most reliable and loyal character in the show. There's no chance he'd be dodgy. ANYONE who has seen the show should know this.

vote sir hammer

Axeman. Having played a mafia role with me, what tactics would i use? Would it involve a change of posting style for instance? Or would it be to go all out to make it look like you're playing the same?

I'm not the godfather. I'm not mafia. I'm not evil. If you want to lynch me based on finding me innocent, fair enough. But as the mafia already know who Jack and Tony are, and have taken out the the bodyguard/protection type role, does it really make sense to kill another townie to find out someone's mafia? Hammer's lying.

He creates roles every game. The mafia get given safe names to claim. Is it really that hard to work out what he's done?
why direct the conversation towards me, I havent voted you, Ive also said i'm still prepared to keep my vote on Wes. I'm merely stating i see mikeblues logic. Despite what you say hippo, you do seem strange in this game, and during the first day you were not really that helpfull to the town.
You and hammer do seem to be bouncing off each other, and you are both prime targets for Hammersbro to try and recruit.
Last game we were both mafia, we didnt really have the chance to confer much, as i was not around enough.

I have to Unvote:Mikeblue, Vote:Hippo. I'm innocent and Aaron Pierce. If Mikeblue is being 100% honest then I am now of the sole opinion that Hippo must be mafia because I know I'm not. He is very good at lying and spinning, but don't listen to him. Tony Almeida becomes a legend in 24, but in the first season he keep fucking up and trusting the wrong people, then he got locked up for Treason in another Season. He could easily be an insane cop.

Hippo, yesterday you demanded I claim. Now I demand you claim.

If Hippo is any Mafia Member and Mike is an Insane Cop then he would come up innocent because Insane cops just always get it wrong. I know Mikeblue is wrong about me, so he must be wrong with his innocent on Hippo. I'm sure Currie had this role in his Lost Mafia.
I wouldnt have a clue about roles, I have never watched 24.  But this is very interesting. lol
Que Hippo to come back with a role claim from wiki... bloody shit loads of possible chars.  :-\

If you read through the last few pages I think you have to vote Hippo in all honesty.

Just look at the style he has written things in. Just stirring and never fully commiting on anything.

Would like to hear other peoples ideas though.
totaly agree. look at the stevenryals lynch for example.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 08, 2008, 12:36:03 PM
Think a name right this second would help rather than give you time to imagine one up if that was the case.

David 'fucking' Palmer.

Good enough?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 12:38:41 PM
David 'fucking' Palmer.

Good enough?

Means nothing to me anyway???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 08, 2008, 12:40:59 PM
Means nothing to me anyway???

I'm one of the main characters in the show. But there you go.

Well done on exposing me to the mafia too. They know Jack, Tony and me now. And have killed the protection person.

And based on what? Me being found innocent and Hammer being found guilty?

Nice one.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 12:41:24 PM
What makes this so tough right now is that before today I geniunly thought Sir Hammer was guilty and Hippo inocent and I had a feeling Axeman could be mafia. So bearing that in mind why am I being swayed???? My head is gone right now lol. Going to re read and wait for other peeps comments.

Could Hippo be innocent and could Happy be helping evil Sir Hammer stitch him up??? But Hippo has not been much help this game so I don't know..... lololololo
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 12:43:22 PM
I'm one of the main characters in the show. But there you go.

Well done on exposing me to the mafia too. They know Jack, Tony and me now. And have killed the protection person.

And based on what? Me being found innocent and Hammer being found guilty?

Nice one.

What do you think I should have done? Said nothing???

You seem to be relying on this you innocent and Hammer guilty a lot but you are now ignoring the possibilty that I could be a crazy cop???

Have I not outed Hammer as Jacks bodyguard too lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 08, 2008, 12:49:30 PM
Right. Hammer's role was David Palmer's bodyguard, not Jack's. The fact that i am David Palmer, and knew nothing of this, made me not believe it 100%, but thought it still might be true (like in the last game, where you knew nothing of amadjin).

The fact that you've found him guilty makes me think he's guilty. The fact that you're Tony Almeida makes me think you're not crazy.

And no, i didn't expect you to say nothing. I expect you to find someone guilty, and vote for them. Rather than guessing that you're insane. I know it happened last game, but it's extremely unlikely. And if you've found me innocent, i know 100% that it's not true.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 08, 2008, 12:49:56 PM
dont be swayed Mike, I am not mafia.

Means nothing to me anyway???
according to wiki, he is the president.

I'm one of the main characters in the show. But there you go.

Well done on exposing me to the mafia too. They know Jack, Tony and me now. And have killed the protection person.

And based on what? Me being found innocent and Hammer being found guilty?

Nice one.
no its based on the way you have sat back, and ran a commentry.
So isnt hammer supposed to be protecting you? yet you have claimed your bodygaurd is dead? I would of thought being the president you would be a mason too...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 08, 2008, 12:53:29 PM
damn new replys. lol
hippo obviously saw his mistake about hammer being his bodygaurd..
Right. Hammer's role was David Palmer's bodyguard, not Jack's. The fact that i am David Palmer, and knew nothing of this, made me not believe it 100%, but thought it still might be true (like in the last game, where you knew nothing of amadjin).

The fact that you've found him guilty makes me think he's guilty. The fact that you're Tony Almeida makes me think you're not crazy.

And no, i didn't expect you to say nothing. I expect you to find someone guilty, and vote for them. Rather than guessing that you're insane. I know it happened last game, but it's extremely unlikely. And if you've found me innocent, i know 100% that it's not true.
so your saying you are indeed mafia?

UNVOTE WESMANCITY
VOTE HIPPO
the godfather
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 08, 2008, 12:57:49 PM
So isnt hammer supposed to be protecting you? yet you have claimed your bodygaurd is dead?

See, the point where you're going wrong is that you're believing Hammer. He's not Aaron Pierce. He's lying.

I genuinely don't understand why i'm the focus here. I've been found innocent and Hammer found guilty.. why am i therefore the prime suspect?

I've told you who i am.

damn new replys. lol
hippo obviously saw his mistake about hammer being his bodygaurd..so your saying you are indeed mafia?

UNVOTE WESMANCITY
VOTE HIPPO
the godfather

Are you on the windup? I was quite clearly saying that him being insane was not true. And i get accused of twisting words?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 01:01:58 PM

And no, i didn't expect you to say nothing. I expect you to find someone guilty, and vote for them. Rather than guessing that you're insane. I know it happened last game, but it's extremely unlikely. And if you've found me innocent, i know 100% that it's not true.
[/quote]

Thats what I did and you questioned it thats why its sus!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 08, 2008, 01:07:33 PM
Thats what I did and you questioned it thats why its sus!

Because i had no idea who you were or what you were claiming at the time. I actually said i believed you, but wanted to hear Hammer's claim. If you actually go back and read what i said.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 01:09:39 PM
At least someone noticed. Steven is one of the players that the majority dont like to even challenge. In this case I think I put forward a theory that was completely ignored and makes sense with every action.

1.Miasg came out as Bauer, and after some shocking play from Yorkshire, was looking at Yorkshire at his main target.
2.Steven told Miasg to pick one townie, and the rest of the town would fall in line and lynch him.
3.Me and a few others criticised that plan, so it was dropped.
4.Miasg eventually does choose Yorkshire, but now the town is unsure so doesnt fall in line.


Who looks suspicious in this sequence? Steven knew Miasg would pick Yorkshire when he said it so to me that indicates either Steven is a cop with a Guilty on Yorkshire, or he is a mafia member who knows Yorkshire is Innocent, and spots an easy lynch which he cant be blamed for since "Jack Bauer ordered everyone to". I unvoted Steven out of frustration since until now, absolutely no one has even looked at my claims.

Perhaps him and Hippo could be part of a dangerous mafia and playing a very smart game. Hippo has not got his teeth into anyone yet like he normally does, but there has not been a single. major defining issue so maybe thats why, but I still have some doubts about the both of them.

If Yorkshire does get lynched, and turns up town, then in my mind that just puts more weight onto my suspiscions of Steven.


Also those criticising people for "being too scared" to get on the bandwagon, shut up! Not everyone thinks Yorkshire is mafia, so everyone doesnt want to be associated with a bad lynch. We have investigated too much in this day now, and we need the right result, or at least a result that puts us in good stead for tomorrow.

This is the post that bugs me though. This is what made me think he was mafia.

He tries to link Hippo and Steve and had a few pops at Steve before this? Steve turns out to be town???

I am changing my mind again. Common sense tells me I have a guilty on Hammer so really I have to go with that in reality. VOTE SIR HAMMER. If he turns out mafia Happy you will be next for sure!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 01:09:57 PM
VOTE SIR HAMMER
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 08, 2008, 01:14:55 PM

See, the point where you're going wrong is that you're believing Hammer. He's not Aaron Pierce. He's lying.

I genuinely don't understand why i'm the focus here. I've been found innocent and Hammer found guilty.. why am i therefore the prime suspect?

I've told you who i am.

Are you on the windup? I was quite clearly saying that him being insane was not true. And i get accused of twisting words?
no, you see your on the rack, your back is against the wall and your now struggling because you know we have both you and hammer..
ok, i'll split you post up more, and not miss anything out like you do...

Right. Hammer's role was David Palmer's bodyguard, not Jack's. The fact that i am David Palmer, and knew nothing of this, made me not believe it 100%, but thought it still might be true (like in the last game, where you knew nothing of amadjin).

you Realise the mistake and try covering up.
The fact that you've found him guilty makes me think he's guilty. The fact that you're Tony Almeida makes me think you're not crazy.
Yeah, after reading tonnes of previous posts and patterns this morning, i think Mike blue is also sane, and we have stumbled upon the conclusion we have the godfather and henchman.

And no, i didn't expect you to say nothing. I expect you to find someone guilty, and vote for them. Rather than guessing that you're insane. I know it happened last game, but it's extremely unlikely. And if you've found me innocent, i know 100% that it's not true.
but you just said that you believe he is sane and them assume he thinks he is insane, i think he thinks he is sane.  :bleh:
so your saying his result is 100% not true, but is actually true and you are the godfather.
theres still tonnes of other peeps yet to see the days events, and we need more opinions. but I really do believe we have Hippo, Hammer and Wes on the run.

I am changing my mind again. Common sense tells me I have a guilty on Hammer so really I have to go with that in reality. VOTE SIR HAMMER. If he turns out mafia Happy you will be next for sure!
what are you going on about? since the revelations, ive been saying i actually believe Hammer to be evil too. can not see i'm trying to get to the bottom of it all? do you not read? jeees.  ::)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 01:24:18 PM
I read everything just swapping and changing to get reactions  ;)

I know in my head what I think (I think) going to wait to see what unfolds now.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 08, 2008, 01:25:29 PM
but you just said that you believe he is sane and them assume he thinks he is insane, i think he thinks he is sane.  :bleh:
so your saying his result is 100% not true, but is actually true and you are the godfather.

I've got to go out now so have no time, but if mike or someone wants to quote a few of the times he's actually said himself he thinks he might be insane/paranoid or whatever. I'm not assuming anything, he said it. And the fact that he voted for me initially proves it.

If you're voting for me because you think i'm the godfather, do you not think that's a bit silly? I've told you who i am. It's hardly a name i could claim without actually being him.

And as you think he's sane, you're making a 1 in 10 guess that i'm the godfather and voting on it, rather than a 100% guarantee that Hammer's evil. Why? I think you're mafia together and are trying your best to take me out in a blaze of glory with you.

You also made similar comments about Steven "playing weirdly" on day one, before all of that suicide thing kicked off, and implied he could be the godfather. He was town. Now you're doing it with me. You're dodgy.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 01:27:50 PM
This game is really kicking on now lol.

I'm having a fun time  :bleh:

Talk about a spanner in the works  :D
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 08, 2008, 02:08:26 PM
Like i said before, i'm not mafia or the godfather.
you also don't say your town .. that leaves serial killer .. or as you claim the president  ???

claimed
Miasg - jack
Hammer - Town Role Blocker - Aaron - claim seems believable
mike (almeida) could be cop or paranoid cop .. although I think it strange you could investigate before it kicked off - there was no incident so why would you have reason to investigate?  (yes I know this isn't real life just my logic)Hippo - Pres.


unclaimed
trick pony - I'm sure he's town
bluestars
YB
Happy Axeman - talking the talk but know idea who he is in this
Afroboy - hiding .. mafia ?
Masterzulu
Wes

mike investigates hippo = good hammer = bad .. so we do 1 of 4 things ..
1) believe him as cop and kill hammer
2) believe him as paranoid cop and kill hippo
3) think he's lying and kill mikeblue
4) he's found godfather and henchman so we kill hippo first and risk it

but that leaves the others free .. and they just keep getting free rides. 

if we have found 2 mafia then they both have claimed believable roles .. At least they spelt their's right in the claim unlike mikeblue .. but we still have a possible serial killer out there ..

time for trick pony, bluestars, YB, Afroboy, Masterzulu, and Wes to get on and let us know ASAP if these role claims conflict at all .. as I see it I still have the most powerful night role for town and therefore the biggest threat.  During the day we are all equal townies. 

Hippo if you are the president and going by the claims wouldn't you try to possible save aaron peirce as if his claim is true he can save your bacon at night?

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 08, 2008, 03:40:44 PM
Something dodgy is going on here me thinks!

There seem to be a lot of people come and go today with no response to the goings on.

Me thinks a few sheep waiting to follow the flock!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 08, 2008, 04:49:26 PM
Hippo if you are the president and going by the claims wouldn't you try to possible save aaron peirce as if his claim is true he can save your bacon at night?

Right, okay, this is what happened.

- mikeblue half claimed cop (no name stated), told us Hammer was guilty. I said i believed him, but wanted to hear Hammer's claim.
- Hammer claims well, and due to the nature of the role, though i don't know about it, i'll go along with it because obviously it's a positive role for myself, and it opens the door to the whole paranoid cop avenue of thought.
- Then mike reveals he's found me innocent, so obviously not a paranoid cop (always guilty) and obviously not an insane one (because i know he got the investigation on me right).
- I therefore voted for Hammer. Who has been found guilty. Because it's what makes logical sense, as he is clearly mafia or the serial killer.

I find it bizarre that other people don't follow this way of thinking.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 08, 2008, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: MASTERZULU on October 06, 2008, 10:00:51 PM
As for who else is mafia I'm still not sure, looking back on what axeman said about both him and I being added after the roles had been given out, he said something about we have probably both been given town roles, which couuld be true, but it also stands to reason that if you add an extra two players that you might add one on either side, so at this stage I'm not ruling axeman out as possible mafia

lol I see what your trying to do here, you have been given a mafia henchman role, and youve picked up on what i have said, and seen conflict from others attacking me for my claim... and now see fit to plant seeds to try and stitch me up...


haha nice try but its quite the opposite, why would I risk bringing up something that could possibly make me look like mafia after it has been over looked by everyone else. You are looking quite sus at the moment my old chum.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 08, 2008, 06:22:14 PM
freaking crap...had a financial conversion yesterday and today and haven't caught up yet....WOW..at the pages to read...what the heck! I'll go read and see what's on
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 08, 2008, 08:39:22 PM
Dear Lord...I am sitting here scratching my head....I'm just not sure what I think honestly....
here we have Mike...claims cop....gets a guilty on hammer....and for me that would have been the end of it, but then all this paranoid/insane cop crap...and then we still have a serial killer possibility...altho ugh might be unlikely as we had a cult as well..who knows....and now it's voices saying kill hippo that came back innocent because he could be godfather and yet somehow that doesn't sit well with me either....I ain't got a clue right now....I mean someone's lying...one of these three is lying...and at the moment I just can't make out which is more believable...becaus e everything being posted is plausible....I just don't know....I do however think that we have to get some more folks posting in here to talk this out...I mean at this point mike,hammer,hippo have said what they have to say....the others of us need to weight in with our responses....I think alot of folks are holding back on their vote because well....I've never seen it get so weird either and I'm not sure what I think at the moment....my gut tells me go with hammer and if not then we find out if mike is crazy or not and then if he is kill him....but that might give him another chance to survive and investigate again....or go with hippo on the assumption about his cliam...but if we are wrong doesn't that leave hammer to know exactly who to take out if he truly is evil...I don't know too many senarios to process at the moment.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 08, 2008, 08:47:52 PM
what the hell are you going on about? I'm not putting any words into your mouth.
you played like this last time you were mafia, and no-one believed me then.
you blatantly know what me and miasg keep refering too, yet you come over all bold saying your prepared to answer any question, then ignore stuff and spit out one sentance bollocks to wriggle out of it. read back yourself, and do some investigating and something productive for the town for a change.
I never back away from valid questions.
oh look, youve completly bi-passed mikeblues posts... got nothing to say about your two mafia colleagues?  ???


Bwwwhaahahahahahaha!!!

you are a fibber, you first tell everyone i said you was deffensive!! (Reply 453, Page 23) and then you told peeps that a called you Aggressive (Reply 553, Page 28), and the second i asked you to tell me when i called you that, which you never answerd.

You have been trying to get people to vote for me all game with your comments on me!

UNVOTE Hammer VOTE Happy Axeman
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 08, 2008, 10:40:26 PM
Sorry for the absence, computer access has been very small as my laptop broke but it's fixed now.

Axeman, you're just trying to get me to post so i'm just going to leave your big claims about me.

Very confusing right now, I have to say unless someone claims against mikeblue I believe he is townie, but I think there is a good possibility that hammer and hippo could both be evil, if not then one is. I think we might be looking too much into this and missing the obvious... A false claim from hammer. Vote Hammer

I also think masterzulu is most likely evil. I don't like the way he is playing.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 09, 2008, 01:01:36 AM
I think we should leave hammer,mikeblue, and hippo for now and focus on the people how havent role calimed, all three of the above have believable roles which could all be good for the town during the night phase so why push to get one lynched  ???

I think we should focus on the unclaimed people to get an easy mafia / non town lynch, targeting them will be easier at this stage as we have so many roles claimed which with the odds of how many townies we lost on the first night you would think further claims could then make everything alot more interesting... I think MZ YB and Afro will be good starting points for at least henchmen...

claimed
Miasg - jack
Hammer - Town Role Blocker - Aaron
mikeblue (almeida) could be cop or paranoid cop
Hippo - President

unclaimed
trick pony - town
bluestars
YB
Happy Axeman
Afroboy
Masterzulu
Wes
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 09, 2008, 08:37:27 AM
Sorry for the absence, computer access has been very small as my laptop broke but it's fixed now.
Axeman, you're just trying to get me to post so i'm just going to leave your big claims about me.
Very confusing right now, I have to say unless someone claims against mikeblue I believe he is townie, but I think there is a good possibility that hammer and hippo could both be evil, if not then one is. I think we might be looking too much into this and missing the obvious... A false claim from hammer. Vote Hammer I also think masterzulu is most likely evil. I don't like the way he is playing.
comes on won't reply to questions .. doesn't even look to say anything about my post about him ..summerises has no proof offered that hammers is false but claims it anyway .. did nothing day .. hiding in background again .. VOTE AFROBOY
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 09, 2008, 10:01:39 AM
currie can we get a vote count please  :)

now afro what was that  ??? answer the questions mafioso
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 09, 2008, 10:22:30 AM
Sorry for the absence, computer access has been very small as my laptop broke but it's fixed now.

Axeman, you're just trying to get me to post so i'm just going to leave your big claims about me.

Very confusing right now, I have to say unless someone claims against mikeblue I believe he is townie, but I think there is a good possibility that hammer and hippo could both be evil, if not then one is. I think we might be looking too much into this and missing the obvious... A false claim from hammer. Vote Hammer

I also think masterzulu is most likely evil. I don't like the way he is playing.

LOL do people pick me out of the crowd because they think I'm a soft target or what. I had a feeling you were mafia and that last statement has all but confimed it
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 12:23:03 PM
haha nice try but its quite the opposite, why would I risk bringing up something that could possibly make me look like mafia after it has been over looked by everyone else. You are looking quite sus at the moment my old chum.  :hmmm:

Although I know that Hippo [or very unlikely Mikeblue] must be lying, I think Axeman is looking more and more dodgy, and thinking back I might know why.

If Mikeblue as a Cop got a Pre-Game Investigation, then surely the Cult got a Pre-Game recruit. Hammerbro is quite smart sometimes so logically who would be the most useful recruit. Axeman. Especially so because he entered the game late, and would therefore be very likely Town or at least Neutral. At least the leader is dead so if my theory is right then he hasnt recruited anyone, but in one game I modded and Currieman played in the Cult could recruit every other night if the leader died. Perhaps Axeman was town, but it now Cult which would explain why he is stirring everything and upsetting several players.

I have to leave my vote on Hippo because I know he is mafia, but maybe Axeman is another decent shout, especially if he get to recruit again tonight, in which case Miasg would probably be in danger tonight!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 12:29:32 PM
This also applies to Zulu being a good target for pre-game recruit, but I think Axeman is stirring things up more than him, and would be a better recruit target because alot of people listen to him on this board and dont like voting him.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 09, 2008, 01:49:55 PM
currie can we get a vote count please  :)
bloody hell your lazy
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 09, 2008, 02:02:03 PM
If Mikeblue as a Cop got a Pre-Game Investigation, then surely the Cult got a Pre-Game recruit.
if all these people are getting pre-game stuff then why couldn't i get a pre-game kill as Jack !  surely we are clutching at straws now.  no one's comnig on and saying any of the claimed roles are dodgy because they are already taken ... what if hammer you were in fact aaron peirce and bodygaurd but it was infact you who was selected as cult before the start .. that's why you came back against us but no one is going against your role claim .. I'm starting to think that's the case  and therefore mikeblue and hippo are townie as well .. so that leaves the mafia being quiet .. vote sticks with afro .. I can always take you out at night hammer   :2guns: 

bluestars you are being ultra quiet .. one other thing I've noticed you haven't done is your usual round up of the FOS's and VOTE's and the last time you played and were mafia you didn't do this as well ... but still I think happy and afroboy are the biggest targets today now for me.  Wes I'm unsure of .. Zulu becuase he's new and not doing too much keeps him safer for now.  YorkshireBlue though - I had a go at you on day 1 and you said you were bored .. came back day 2 posted bugger all ..  at this stage you are my other target at night.  Convince me otherwise - you haven't done a good job on it so far - what saved you was laserblue and although he was town he still can't know for sure if you are ie not a mason with you.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 02:03:08 PM
I think we should leave hammer,mikeblue, and hippo for now and focus on the people how havent role calimed, all three of the above have believable roles which could all be good for the town during the night phase so why push to get one lynched  ???

I think we should focus on the unclaimed people to get an easy mafia / non town lynch, targeting them will be easier at this stage as we have so many roles claimed which with the odds of how many townies we lost on the first night you would think further claims could then make everything alot more interesting... I think MZ YB and Afro will be good starting points for at least henchmen...

claimed
Miasg - jack
Hammer - Town Role Blocker - Aaron
mikeblue (almeida) could be cop or paranoid cop
Hippo - President

unclaimed
trick pony - town
bluestars
YB
Happy Axeman
Afroboy
Masterzulu
Wes


How can you possibly focus on other people???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 02:08:07 PM
What if hammer you were in fact aaron peirce and bodygaurd, but it was infact you who was selected as cult before the start .. that's why you came back against us but no one is going against your role claim .. I'm starting to think that's the case  and therefore mikeblue and hippo are townie as well .. so that leaves the mafia being quiet .. vote sticks with afro .. I can always take you out at night hammer   :2guns: 

Ok, thats a fair comment, but one which I know not to be true. If you are threatening to kill me, then I will have to roleblock you tonight if you really do intend to kill me. I know we can't afford a townie to die, and am amazed no one has come forward to counter Hippo's President claim since I know for certain he is in the game since I have to protect him. Maybe Hippo was converted as Cult in night one...

I agree that Afroboy might be playing a very smart game though.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 02:09:44 PM
Dear Lord...I am sitting here scratching my head....I'm just not sure what I think honestly....
here we have Mike...claims cop....gets a guilty on hammer....and for me that would have been the end of it, but then all this paranoid/insane cop crap...and then we still have a serial killer possibility...altho ugh might be unlikely as we had a cult as well..who knows....and now it's voices saying kill hippo that came back innocent because he could be godfather and yet somehow that doesn't sit well with me either....I ain't got a clue right now....I mean someone's lying...one of these three is lying...and at the moment I just can't make out which is more believable...becaus e everything being posted is plausible....I just don't know....I do however think that we have to get some more folks posting in here to talk this out...I mean at this point mike,hammer,hippo have said what they have to say....the others of us need to weight in with our responses....I think alot of folks are holding back on their vote because well....I've never seen it get so weird either and I'm not sure what I think at the moment....my gut tells me go with hammer and if not then we find out if mike is crazy or not and then if he is kill him....but that might give him another chance to survive and investigate again....or go with hippo on the assumption about his cliam...but if we are wrong doesn't that leave hammer to know exactly who to take out if he truly is evil...I don't know too many senarios to process at the moment.

Why would you kill me if I was crazy? I'm still town. I'm not paranoid as every ivestigation would come back guilty.

Possibility of reverse cop role yes but why would you kill a known towny??? Very strange statement.

Surely its a decision between hippo and sir hammer so peeps just make a decision.

I'm sticking with Sir Hammer.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 09, 2008, 02:16:05 PM
I think what he meant (but he probably didn't  :-X ) was not to forget the other people .. he's just following my lead

Ok, thats a fair comment, but one which I know not to be true. If you are threatening to kill me, then I will have to roleblock you tonight if you really do intend to kill me. I know we can't afford a townie to die, and am amazed no one has come forward to counter Hippo's President claim since I know for certain he is in the game since I have to protect him. Maybe Hippo was converted as Cult in night one... I agree that Afroboy might be playing a very smart game though.
yeah but your arguement relies on either mikeblue lying or he's a paranoid cop .. i've got no problems if you roleblock me might convince me but you are not my only target - I was wrong and may choose not to do anything.  Guess it depends on who is lynched.   I guess hippo won't die at night either if your claim is right.  Cult leader is dead .. we have no way of knowing if he actually had a pre-game role.  Sort of wonder why there is any seeing how the story pans out .. I'd expect more terrorist bombers than this.



Why would you kill me if I was crazy? I'm still town. I'm not paranoid as every ivestigation would come back guilty.
Possibility of reverse cop role yes but why would you kill a known towny??? Very strange statement.  Surely its a decision between hippo and sir hammer so peeps just make a decision.  I'm sticking with Sir Hammer.
so your guess is you are a normal straight up cop ..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
At this moment in time I have no real reason to think otherwise have I? People are going to bring up this idea and yes it is a possibility ..... guess there is only one way to find out for sure.

Maybe TP is mafia and wants everyone to claim to see who is best to take out  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 02:26:10 PM
I think what he meant (but he probably didn't  :-X ) was not to forget the other people .. he's just following my lead
 yeah but your arguement relies on either mikeblue lying or he's a paranoid cop .. i've got no problems if you roleblock me might convince me but you are not my only target - I was wrong and may choose not to do anything.  Guess it depends on who is lynched.   I guess hippo won't die at night either if your claim is right.

Hippo wont die only if he is the real President who is probably staying quiet. The real President must have a strong role if I am here to protect him.

I can't imagine Mikeblue lying now, but its possible. Maybe he accused me with no evidence in an attempt to rush an easy lynch, then bullshitted his claim once I came forward with my real role, and then dragged Hippo into the mix claiming he had a pre-game investigation which is not that common for cops.

It's either that or Hippo is bad and Mikeblue is an Insane Cop (reverse results)? If I avoid todays lynch I can Roleblock someone at night, which should at least prove my ability. Give me that chance at least? I won't roleblock you.

I have one bit of information that I haven't revealed yet (who I roleblocked last night). Last night I roleblocked Zulu. Since there was still several kills that means that he probably isn't mafia, SK or Cult so thats why I originally suspected Axeman more than him.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 02:29:41 PM
Hippo wont die only if he is the real President who is probably staying quiet. The real President must have a strong role if I am here to protect him.

I can't imagine Mikeblue lying now, but its possible. Maybe he accused me with no evidence in an attempt to rush an easy lynch, then bullshitted his claim once I came forward with my real role, and then dragged Hippo into the mix claiming he had a pre-game investigation which is not that common for cops.

It's either that or Hippo is bad and Mikeblue is an Insane Cop (reverse results)? If I avoid todays lynch I can Roleblock someone at night, which should at least prove my ability. Give me that chance at least? I won't roleblock you.

I have one bit of information that I haven't revealed yet (who I roleblocked last night). Last night I roleblocked Zulu. Since there was still several kills that means that he probably isn't mafia, SK or Cult so thats why I originally suspected Axeman more than him.

This is getting seriously fucked up now lol.

Can't believe people are giving me so much credit that I am intelligent enough to possibly think all this up lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 02:32:41 PM
This is getting seriously fucked up now lol.

Can't believe people are giving me so much credit that I am intelligent enough to possibly think all this up lol.

Not fully sure you are, I'm just in a very difficult situation.

A player claiming to be a cop has come forward and said I'm guilty when I know I'm not.
The person that cop says is innocent, then says he is the person I'm in the game to protect.
One, or both or neither of you are lying and I don't know which is the most rational?

I really don't know who to trust at all now. All I know is that if I get lynched then the Town stand barely no chance, not specifically because of my loss, but that any townie going today means a bad guy majority tomorrow in all probability if there is a mafia, SK and one Cultist still out there.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 02:38:32 PM
Not fully sure you are, I'm just in a very difficult situation.

A player claiming to be a cop has come forward and said I'm guilty when I know I'm not.
The person that cop says is innocent, then says he is the person I'm in the game to protect.
One, or both or neither of you are lying and I don't know which is the most rational?

I really don't know who to trust at all now. All I know is that if I get lynched then the Town stand barely no chance, not specifically because of my loss, but that any townie going today means a bad guy majority tomorrow in all probability if there is a mafia, SK and one Cultist still out there.

How can neither of us be lying if you know you are town?

I should have said nothing about Hippo and just got you lynched then we wouldn't have this problem and know whether I had a rehersal role. This is going to go round in circles for ages now lol.

I mean I am cop I get a guilty, to me the obvious choice is to lynch you. How can we second guess ourselves with the available info??? If we are wrong at least we did the obvious thing. Why make it more complicated than it is I think.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 02:47:38 PM
If we are wrong at least we did the obvious thing.

Because if your wrong the town lose the game. Just think, is there anyway in your mind that you have the wrong man. It's arguably all on you. If you have made the wrong decision here we have lost the game. The bad guys might outnumber the good guys on Day 3 which would be a nightmare situation.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 09, 2008, 02:48:20 PM
I'm not sure how else i can convince people i'm a townie. I've claimed one of the main characters from the show, undisputed, and have come back innocent on an investigation. Seriously. I know i've conned a few of you before, and therefore you're less quick to trust, but come on.. how much more evidence do you need to realise i'm telling the truth?

Hammer's story falls down in all sorts of ways. Firstly, it relies on Tony Almeida being some kind of bumbling idiot, which doesn't fit. Secondly, his whole story relies on my character being in the game - yet doesn't believe i'm telling the truth about me being in the game. It makes no sense. It's an admirable fight he's putting up, but really, he's been found guilty, what other choice is there?

The third option is that Mike is lying. But Almeida's also one of the main characters, and nobody has disputed that either. So SURELY, we have to lynch Hammer, who has been found guilty?

Mike, it might be wise to investigate MIASG or yourself or something, then you'll know for certain. Because it seems, without modkilling myself, i'm not going to be believed.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 02:53:01 PM
Hippo if you or Sir Hammer get lynched then we will know won't we so why waste an investigation?

You could still be the godfather too!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 02:55:45 PM
Because if your wrong the town lose the game. Just think, is there anyway in your mind that you have the wrong man. It's arguably all on you. If you have made the wrong decision here we have lost the game. The bad guys might outnumber the good guys on Day 3 which would be a nightmare situation.

Don't try and put it all on me we won't neccesarily lose either. Everyoe has their own vote so its down to everyone to choose what they believe.

Yes I could have the wrong man but I think with the evidence I am more likely to have the correct man. Percentage wise I think it is in our favour to vote you off.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 02:56:49 PM

It's either that or Hippo is bad and Mikeblue is an Insane Cop (reverse results)? If I avoid todays lynch I can Roleblock someone at night, which should at least prove my ability. Give me that chance at least? I won't roleblock you.

Sir Hammer quote.

More like so you can get one more kill in tonight and  towny lynched!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 02:59:51 PM
Hammer's story falls down in all sorts of ways. Firstly, it relies on Tony Almeida being some kind of bumbling idiot, which doesn't fit. Secondly, his whole story relies on my character being in the game - yet doesn't believe i'm telling the truth about me being in the game. It makes no sense. It's an admirable fight he's putting up, but really, he's been found guilty, what other choice is there?

I smell lies.

Tony Almeida goes to prison for Treason. In the first season he dates Nina who played him for a fool and tricked him. The fact that you are not revealing this to everyone speaks volumes.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 09, 2008, 03:01:03 PM
I come in this morning and have only gotten to TP's post and am thinking WTF??? Are you seriously retarded???? What kind of townie are you to make all the so called other "townies" you know of roleclaim???? That is so mafia it stinks of complete madness!!!!!!!!!!! I sware you MUST be something evil I felt it from the first posts you made...but there is no getting around the mikeblue cop claim and hammer's guilty verdict to me...it's the only sure thing at this point...VOTE HAMMER yes there are ways it could be wrong or so forth...but at this point if we take out Hammer and find out the answers to mikeblue's status..otherwise I am for voting for TP...you are freaking idiot! A complete liability for the town...if you are a townie you are the worst player you want to just give the mafia any more targets...not to mention...we COULD still have a SK we don't know for sure!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 03:07:16 PM
I come in this morning and have only gotten to TP's post and am thinking WTF??? Are you seriously retarded???? What kind of townie are you to make all the so called other "townies" you know of roleclaim???? That is so mafia it stinks of complete madness!!!!!!!!!!! I sware you MUST be something evil I felt it from the first posts you made...but there is no getting around the mikeblue cop claim and hammer's guilty verdict to me...it's the only sure thing at this point...VOTE HAMMER yes there are ways it could be wrong or so forth...but at this point if we take out Hammer and find out the answers to mikeblue's status..otherwise I am for voting for TP...you are freaking idiot! A complete liability for the town...if you are a townie you are the worst player you want to just give the mafia any more targets...not to mention...we COULD still have a SK we don't know for sure!

Totally agree!!!

Sometimes I wonder whether he says and does these things on purpose lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 09, 2008, 03:10:24 PM
Hippo if you or Sir Hammer get lynched then we will know won't we so why waste an investigation?

You could still be the godfather too!

Yeah, good point actually. The first one obviously.

ANYONE could be godfather. Surely the fact that i've claimed one of the absolute main characters (Aaron's been in every series, but he's background really.. as is shown by him not being proper cast, just a recurring guest) makes me less likely than the other people? MIASG could be godfather if you're going by that logic. But i'm not, and i seriously doubt he is.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 03:14:56 PM
I smell lies.

Tony Almeida goes to prison for Treason. In the first season he dates Nina who played him for a fool and tricked him. The fact that you are not revealing this to everyone speaks volumes.


I don't know I have not watched 24 but an intersting point???

If you are guilty this is seriously a valiant fight lol.

If you are innocent I'm sorry pal.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 03:17:26 PM
I don't know I have not watched 24 but an interesting point???

If you are guilty this is seriously a valiant fight lol.

If you are innocent I'm sorry pal.

If I get lynched then the town have made a huge mistake..

Not only because I'm innocent, but because the last person to vote me or nightkill me gets taken out by my Secret Service squad. If you really want to put your money were your mouth is, Mikeblue, then unvote me, and then vote me when I have 5 votes...

If not then it shows your lying. If your certain I'm Mafia then prove it..

I'll repeat for the skim readers...The last person to Vote me gets killed.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 03:17:49 PM
Thats why lynching me costs the game for the town

 >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 03:18:30 PM
Yeah, good point actually. The first one obviously.

ANYONE could be godfather. Surely the fact that i've claimed one of the absolute main characters (Aaron's been in every series, but he's background really.. as is shown by him not being proper cast, just a recurring guest) makes me less likely than the other people? MIASG could be godfather if you're going by that logic. But i'm not, and i seriously doubt he is.

I really am so sus on you still hippo. I hate your posts. Just something about them.

Maybe you are in it together.

What was strange was that when I first started all this you both were reading the thread for ages and ages and not posting.

Then you posted instantanously maybe you were comunicating what to do and decided both to accuse each other of lying and just sacrifice one as it was alwas going to happen anyway and therefore the other one would appear innocent for at least day anyway giving you more killing time.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 09, 2008, 03:20:25 PM
Will do a vote count soon, just need to walk the dog :D
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 03:23:25 PM
If I get lynched then the town have made a huge mistake..

Not only because I'm innocent, but because the last person to vote me or nightkill me gets taken out by my Secret Service squad. If you really want to put your money were your mouth is, Mikeblue, then unvote me, and then vote me when I have 5 votes...

If not then it shows your lying. If your certain I'm Mafia then prove it..

I'll repeat for the skim readers...The last person to Vote me gets killed.


Blackmailing us not to vote you are we?

I see there always seems to be extra bits of info you keep adding to make it harder for people to vote you? Why didn't you say all these things when you claimed originally instead of adding it all on every now and again???

You have modded games and ths all seems to be adding to your advantage here adding all this stuff in. Sounds very believable and may well be but sorry I have to vote you.

Yes I will be the 5th to vote you if the town wants me to. I have a guilty on you so why would I be scared to vote you???

I'm going to go back through the games Currieman had modded and see if he is a fan of crazy/paranod cops.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 03:26:03 PM
If I get lynched then the town have made a huge mistake..

Not only because I'm innocent, but because the last person to vote me or nightkill me gets taken out by my Secret Service squad. If you really want to put your money were your mouth is, Mikeblue, then unvote me, and then vote me when I have 5 votes...

If not then it shows your lying. If your certain I'm Mafia then prove it..

I'll repeat for the skim readers...The last person to Vote me gets killed.


You are just a body guard why would you have such a role maybe the president would but not you. I'm not buying it. I am more sure now than before.

This action would not be pro town the majority of the time so I'm really not buying it!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 03:26:37 PM
Really looks to me like you are trying to scare us now. Desperation !
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 09, 2008, 03:29:18 PM
I smell lies.

Tony Almeida goes to prison for Treason. In the first season he dates Nina who played him for a fool and tricked him. The fact that you are not revealing this to everyone speaks volumes.


Oh come on. Nina also plays Jack for a fool, but i didn't see you questioning that? AND the treason thing was because terrorists had his wife. His character is overall good and reliable, as anyone who has watched will know. Distorting the facts eh? Why not say Jack's a heroin addict?

If I get lynched then the town have made a huge mistake..

Not only because I'm innocent, but because the last person to vote me or nightkill me gets taken out by my Secret Service squad. If you really want to put your money were your mouth is, Mikeblue, then unvote me, and then vote me when I have 5 votes...

If not then it shows your lying. If your certain I'm Mafia then prove it..

I'll repeat for the skim readers...The last person to Vote me gets killed.


So now you're trying to scare people away, AS WELL as goading the cop in to risking his life. And you're town?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 03:30:46 PM
I'm going to go back through the games Currieman had modded and see if he is a fan of crazy/paranod cops.

That will be a short one because for some reason in my absense someone deleted the Lost Thread he modded.

Maybe you are in it together.

You keep changing your mind on what you actually believe. Lynch Hippo. I'm voting him because I have no choice with whats infront of me. Your either a liar or Insane Cop. Lynch Hippo and it proves my point.

Lynch me and we lose two townies (Me and the last one to vote me). At least force someone useless like TP to finish me off so if your not lying then we dont lose a cop?


Maybe you are Mafia after all Mikeblue and you have fabricated this libel in order to get a townie lynched today knowing the mafia will have the majority tomorrow.

Urgh I just give up, once i'm lynched you'll all see the truth and two townys probably dead.

___________

Oh come on. Nina also plays Jack for a fool, but i didn't see you questioning that? AND the treason thing was because terrorists had his wife. His character is overall good and reliable, as anyone who has watched will know. Distorting the facts eh? Why not say Jack's a heroin addict?

So now you're trying to scare people away, AS WELL as goading the cop in to risking his life. And you're town?

Or are you the evil liar....I've been well and truly set up here. I bow to two masters of deception. Mikeblue and Hippo! Both of you have set me up!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 03:31:41 PM
KILL MIKEBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 03:33:53 PM
KILL MIKEBLUE

 O0


Ha ha, couldn't help it.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 03:36:46 PM
That will be a short one because for some reason in my absense someone deleted the Lost Thread he modded.

You keep changing your mind on what you actually believe. Lynch Hippo. I'm voting him because I have no choice with whats infront of me. Your either a liar or Insane Cop. Lynch Hippo and it proves my point.

Lynch me and we lose two townies (Me and the last one to vote me). At least force someone useless like TP to finish me off so if your not lying then we dont lose a cop?


Maybe you are Mafia after all Mikeblue and you have fabricated this libel in order to get a townie lynched today knowing the mafia will have the majority tomorrow.

Urgh I just give up, once i'm lynched you'll all see the truth and two townys probably dead.

___________

Or are you the evil liar....I've been well and truly set up here. I bow to two masters of deception. Mikeblue and Hippo! Both of you have set me up!!!

If the last person to vote you gets killed I think it would have been best to keep that to yourself too as we might have got a mafia when they jump on the bandwagon! You are a liar!! lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 03:37:12 PM
KILL MIKEBLUE

WTF is this??? lol
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 09, 2008, 03:56:01 PM
Got to say, as unconvincing as he is, Hammer's claims and posts over the last page have been quite amusing. Desparation at it's finest. But he has to be lynched.

What was strange was that when I first started all this you both were reading the thread for ages and ages and not posting.

Then you posted instantanously maybe you were comunicating what to do and decided both to accuse each other of lying and just sacrifice one as it was alwas going to happen anyway and therefore the other one would appear innocent for at least day anyway giving you more killing time.

Nah, i'm not really someone who'd cheat at this, Mike. I read what happened, over dinner, and then posted.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 03:58:14 PM
Maybe you were allowed to communicate???

Prove it......what did you have for dinner the day you were reading???  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 09, 2008, 04:00:14 PM
Maybe you were allowed to communicate???

Prove it......what did you have for dinner the day you were reading???  :laugh:

If i remember correctly, it was beans on toast, with a bit of grated cheese on top. Classy i know.  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 04:02:29 PM
If i remember correctly, it was beans on toast, with a bit of grated cheese on top. Classy i know.  ;)

Should have had an egg too!!!

Must be mafia!!! Only mafia have beans on toast!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 04:05:49 PM
Prove it......what did you have for dinner the day you were reading???  :laugh:
If i remember correctly, it was beans on toast, with a bit of grated cheese on top. Classy i know.  ;)
Should have had an egg too!!!
Must be mafia!!! Only mafia have beans on toast!!!

Look at the comedy banter between this two mafia bastards. Sneering at the towns expense?

If you are town, then surely you must lynch both these evil terrorists. I truly bow to the greatest masters of deception since Gorring and Goebbels. Well done gentleman on stitching up one of the Town's true heroes. Liars the pair of you.

Got to say, as unconvincing as he is, Hammer's claims and posts over the last page have been quite amusing.

Amusing to laugh at the plight of an innocent? Poor form sir, poor form.

Wait, I have more useful information!!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 09, 2008, 05:01:38 PM
Vote count
2 – Sir Hammer (Hippo, Mikeblue)
2 – Hippo (Sir Hammer, Axeman)
1 – Happy Axeman (Wesmancity)
1 – Afroboy (MiasG)

It will take 6 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 09, 2008, 05:32:43 PM
haha nice try but its quite the opposite, why would I risk bringing up something that could possibly make me look like mafia after it has been over looked by everyone else. You are looking quite sus at the moment my old chum.  :hmmm:
what no comment on the huge days events so far?, and just to pick out me for something you raised at the start of the day? ???

Bwwwhaahahahahahaha!!!

you are a fibber, you first tell everyone i said you was deffensive!! (Reply 453, Page 23) and then you told peeps that a called you Aggressive (Reply 553, Page 28), and the second i asked you to tell me when i called you that, which you never answerd.

You have been trying to get people to vote for me all game with your comments on me!

UNVOTE Hammer VOTE Happy Axeman
yet another one who refuses to comment on the days events, and continues to talk shit. defensive? i thought hippo explained your poor use of the english language? lol isnt accussing and picking up on things the purpose of the game? if your offended like that, then dont play because you are going to get accused at some point. you still havent replied to mine and miasg's comment!  ::)

Although I know that Hippo [or very unlikely Mikeblue] must be lying, I think Axeman is looking more and more dodgy, and thinking back I might know why.

If Mikeblue as a Cop got a Pre-Game Investigation, then surely the Cult got a Pre-Game recruit. Hammerbro is quite smart sometimes so logically who would be the most useful recruit. Axeman. Especially so because he entered the game late, and would therefore be very likely Town or at least Neutral. At least the leader is dead so if my theory is right then he hasnt recruited anyone, but in one game I modded and Currieman played in the Cult could recruit every other night if the leader died. Perhaps Axeman was town, but it now Cult which would explain why he is stirring everything and upsetting several players.

I have to leave my vote on Hippo because I know he is mafia, but maybe Axeman is another decent shout, especially if he get to recruit again tonight, in which case Miasg would probably be in danger tonight!!!
I think its quite clear Der Hammer is mafia, and he has lied through his teeth. This is the biggest load of shite ive read this game. Hippo or Der Hammer would of been Hammerbros 1st choice, and like i have said before, i am too high profile and have many peeps in this thread who would be prepared to vote for me... hence why your trying to build up more doubt... and your now also trying to distance yourself from hippo, but your just trying too hard...

if Hammer is mafia(and a guilty from the cop has to be followed surely?), this means Hippos role is also bogus as surely both CHARS would of been cast and not just the 1?

UNVOTE HIPPO, VOTE DERHAMMER

WES or Zulu will most probably be the other henchman, if not both of them.  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 05:53:33 PM

I think its quite clear Der Hammer is mafia, and he has lied through his teeth. This is the biggest load of shite ive read this game. Hippo or Der Hammer would of been Hammerbros 1st choice, and like i have said before, i am too high profile and have many peeps in this thread who would be prepared to vote for me... hence why your trying to build up more doubt... and your now also trying to distance yourself from hippo, but your just trying too hard...

if Hammer is mafia(and a guilty from the cop has to be followed surely?), this means Hippos role is also bogus as surely both CHARS would of been cast and not just the 1?

UNVOTE HIPPO, VOTE DERHAMMER

Zulu will most probably be the other henchman.  ;)

Surely someone high-profile is a good target? And the guilty has been on me for a while, yet only now you change your mind and go for me once no one is biting on Hippo?
All the mafia scum are coming out of the woodwork to get poor old Hammer lynched. This is one of the most outrageous show trials since Stalin. Everyone keeps coming forward with phoney evidence. Let me say sir, you are no Jack Kennedy. This day has been a disgrace to the history of mafia and will go down in all of your minds and guilt those who sat back and watched an innocent man get lynched. Innocent I tell you, but none of you are listening. Cowards!!!  Its all one giant stitch up, surely you can it....can't you Trick Pony...surely you believe me right...Miasg..old friend?

The shame of what you have done, or sat back and let happen will probably stop you all from having the confidence ever to play mafia again. Mikeblue, Hippo and Axeman are blatantly involved in possibly the greatest framejob since Roger Rabbit.

Axeman has sat there all game and stirred picking at people like Zulu and Wes with no evidence, just trying to cause conflict. Hippo has done the same. Both playing bizzare strategies and both were a mafia together last game. It makes me sick.

Vote:Hippo
Vote:Axeman
Vote:Mikeblue


I bid you fair well sirs, and Mr President, I'm sorry I failed you.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 06:24:15 PM
LMFAO!!!

Some of the funniest posts I have ever seen are in this game!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 09, 2008, 06:34:26 PM
Vote count
2 – Sir Hammer (Hippo, Mikeblue)
2 – Hippo (Sir Hammer, Axeman)
1 – Happy Axeman (Wesmancity)
1 – Afroboy (MiasG)

It will take 6 votes to get a lynch


Pretty sure that's wrong. Afroboy and Bluestars definitely voted. So he's on 5.

if Hammer is mafia(and a guilty from the cop has to be followed surely?), this means Hippos role is also bogus as surely both CHARS would of been cast and not just the 1?

Interesting. You seem to be trying EXTREMELY hard to get me killed. My character is not intrinsically linked with Aaron, although he was the chief of security. Mike Novick's much closer, as is Jack Bauer - both personal confidentes within the show. Not saying i'm linked or anything, other than being town, but to suggest he wouldn't be a character because Aaron isn't, is quite frankly ridiculous. I'm a top 3 character within 24 - there's no chance i WOULDN'T be in the game.

Why are you so keen to set up the next lynch before this one happens? So you don't get any of the attention yourself? You're mafia i reckon. You keep talking about how i "bounced off" Hammer, but was it not YOU who were the only one to agree with him about Ryals (town) being evil (before the whole "incident")? And wasn;t it you who proclaimed Hammer to be not particularly suspicious before you realised he'd been found guilty?

and a guilty from the cop has to be followed surely?

That's what i've been saying. You on the other hand, decided to take the information that Hammer had been found guilty, and me innocent, and use it as a reason to vote for me. How the hell does that make sense? And why would a townie do that? If they weren't just trying to get a bit of extra time alive for their mafia buddy.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 09, 2008, 06:39:26 PM
Is someone just gonna end this? Hammer's quite blatantly mafia. He's been found guilty, and if you blow up as a result of doing it, like he threatened, i will eat my hat. And to do this, i will purchase a really big hat, so it takes longer. And i'll be out of pocket. So i'll be the big loser.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 06:46:18 PM
Is someone just gonna end this? Hammer's quite blatantly mafia. He's been found guilty, and if you blow up as a result of doing it, like he threatened, i will eat my hat. And to do this, i will purchase a really big hat, so it takes longer. And i'll be out of pocket. So i'll be the big loser.

Then prepare to eat your humble, hat pie and I hope its tastes of your lies.

Surely I still have some friends who believe my worthy and noble cause? I'm town, god damn it!..just an innocent roleblock getting in noones way, just walking about blocking a few roles every now and then? Surely this isnt a crime? I've been attacked by 3 of the most heinous types either to pick up a keyboard.

Axeman, your the biggest liar of all. He acts like he has all the information, and portrays a knowledgable approach yet under it all there is a big spin of lies. Normally he is a nice bloke, but in this game he has a pure black soul. Hippo and Mikeblue too. Together all three are just repeating their lies in an attempt to make you loyal, good Johnny Sixpacks out there believe it. Be Mavericks!!! Fight the system.

Just because a lie is load enough and repeated enough by a few, doesnt make it true!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 06:47:52 PM
I've been attacked by 3 of the most heinous types either to pick up a keyboard.

What if the 3 of them are Mafia together? Have concocted this lie in order just to get a lynch, kill someone night, then all three use their terrorist function and kill others tomorrow making the Mafia win!

Its for this reason we must lynch them.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 06:52:45 PM
UNVOTE SIR HAMMER

Maybe he is telling the truth.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 06:56:02 PM
Just kidding  :laugh:

VOTE SIRHAMMER

You nearly convinced me there  ::)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 07:29:40 PM
Fine, I "confess"...if thats what you want to hear. I'm Mafia and proud. Look what your lies have reduced me to. I am a broken man, begging for mercy. Like those old women that had to "confess" to witchcraft or prisoners of war forced into "confessing" fake crimes, I Confess. You have left me empty of all dignity.

Just lynch me. Maybe then you will finally see the folly of your ways. All of your lies will come back to haunt you.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 07:37:07 PM
Look at the comedy banter between this two mafia bastards. Sneering at the towns expense?

If you are town, then surely you must lynch both these evil terrorists. I truly bow to the greatest masters of deception since Gorring and Goebbels. Well done gentleman on stitching up one of the Town's true heroes. Liars the pair of you.

Amusing to laugh at the plight of an innocent? Poor form sir, poor form.

Wait, I have more useful information!!!!

Where is this more information?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 07:37:45 PM
Fine, I "confess"...if thats what you want to hear. I'm Mafia and proud. Look what your lies have reduced me to. I am a broken man, begging for mercy. Like those old women that had to "confess" to witchcraft or prisoners of war forced into "confessing" fake crimes, I Confess. You have left me empty of all dignity.

Just lynch me. Maybe then you will finally see the folly of your ways. All of your lies will come back to haunt you.

If it makes you feel better I havn't lied.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 08:02:15 PM
Where is this more information?

I will only trade it when I get a written confirmation of immunity from todays lynch. It's very important that you hear this information. It could win the town the game.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 09, 2008, 08:04:55 PM
I will only trade it when I get a written confirmation of immunity from todays lynch. It's very important that you hear this information. It could win the town the game.

Don't think you are in any position to be making deals do you?

Is it that when you die everyone loses and you win?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 08:19:30 PM
Don't think you are in any position to be making deals do you?

Is it that when you die everyone loses and you win?

Ok, look you have me bang to rights. I admit it, but since someone in this game has screwed me over then I want to at least get them back. I admit im in a mafia Cell. There are two cells with equal roles, but both cells are treated as if they are different mafias, and its someone in that other cell that seemingly has betrayed me completely and tryed his best to out me. I'm now sure that that cell is going to try and kill my terrorist buddy tonight, so I need to even the odds. Make me Day Three's lynch, in exchange for me revealing the others cells equilvant of my role. One of the other cell is Happy Axeman. Lynch him, and tomorrow I will give you the other name. This is in my interests and the town. I keep pressure of my Mafia for 2 days, and you guys get a Mafia lynched next two days.

I have no reason to lie. Yes, I'm mafia but I want MY MAFIA to win, not the other one. I also know all their safe role names. I can still be valuable, just unvote me for now.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 08:21:29 PM
and the last person to vote me dies thing...

that was true... :D

suicide bomber oh yes!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 08:23:38 PM
plus if you do think im lying about this whole thing, then Miasg will just get me at night?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 08:30:22 PM
My name is Navi Araz, a Mafia Terrorist with ______ also a Terrorist.
Axeman's name is Kalil Hasan, also a Mafia Terrorist with _____ _____ in his cell with the other cell.

Unvote, Vote:Axeman

Since the start of the game I left Axeman out of my targets, because I thought the cells had an understanding. Now he has betrayed me so I have no qualms about betraying him.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 08:38:52 PM
My name is Navi Araz, a Mafia Terrorist with ______ also a Terrorist.
Axeman's name is Kalil Hasan, also a Mafia Terrorist with _____ _____ in his cell with the other cell.

Unvote, Vote:Axeman

Since the start of the game I left Axeman out of my targets, because I thought the cells had an understanding. Now he has betrayed me so I have no qualms about betraying him.

Habib Marwan is our leader and he is the SK type Godfather. He tryed to kill Miasg last night, Axeman's cell killed Hammerbro and we tryed to kill Zulu but Laserblue somehow died instead, probably something to do with him being a bodyguard*. We all know about each others existence, but we all need each other dead to win. Habib can kill us, but he cant be killed at night so thats why hes on his own.


There I have given you a ridiculous amount of information and Currieman is gonna be furious I've spoilt his game like this, but if it saves my Mafia Cell then its worth it.


*Bodyguard: The bodyguard can protect other people from being killed. If the person he is protecting is kill targeted then he dies in his place.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 09, 2008, 09:05:51 PM
There's more than a slight whiff of BS coming from this thread currently.

Give up.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: stevenryals on October 09, 2008, 10:42:34 PM
Can we have a re-count please, Hammer says he only has 5 votes. 
someone, anyone? currie maybe?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 09, 2008, 10:51:28 PM
The reports of my death have been grossly exagerated.

I'm not dead. 5 votes only. Whoever votes me next goes BOOM!

Read what I said about the other Mafia Cell
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 09, 2008, 11:11:20 PM
GAME OVER!

WHATS THE POINT?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 09, 2008, 11:15:23 PM
so your saying hippo isn't the president and zulu is ...

so I'm thinking afro and bluestars are the other mafia .. TP isn't ..

my head's going to explode ..

Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard .. chase wasn't secret service he was CTU and doing Jacks daughter if I remember rightly .. so I can't see that zulu is the pres from that ..

what gets me is you've stitched up axeman and hippo but you've not said mikeblue is ... so mike your claim that he's bad is right .. and that leaves hippo as pres or mafia leader ..

any vanilla townies left?  if so take the last vote on him ... to give us a chance tonight.

I have no reason to lie. Yes, I'm mafia but I want MY MAFIA to win, not the other one. I also know all their safe role names. I can still be valuable, just unvote me for now.
bullshit you've fucking lied all the way through - you will die tonight .. the fact remains you need all of us to die to win .. you'll just lie more tomorrow .. UNVOTE AFROBOY and VOTE AXEMAN
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 10, 2008, 12:25:55 AM
so your saying hippo isn't the president and zulu is ...

so I'm thinking afro and bluestars are the other mafia .. TP isn't ..

my head's going to explode ..

Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard .. chase wasn't secret service he was CTU and doing Jacks daughter if I remember rightly .. so I can't see that zulu is the pres from that ..

what gets me is you've stitched up axeman and hippo but you've not said mikeblue is ... so mike your claim that he's bad is right .. and that leaves hippo as pres or mafia leader ..

any vanilla townies left?  if so take the last vote on him ... to give us a chance tonight.
bullshit you've fucking lied all the way through - you will die tonight .. the fact remains you need all of us to die to win .. you'll just lie more tomorrow .. UNVOTE AFROBOY and VOTE AXEMAN
are for real? cant you see Hammer has lied to stitch me up completely to save hippo? Look how desperatly they have both lied through there teeth.
MIASG If your going to kill me in the night for believing such utter trash from an actual mafia and his godfather, then the town dont deserve to win, and you will of killed 2 townies. well done, i thought your char is supposed to be the hero.

HAMMER IS MAFIA, HIPPOS CLAIM IS ALSO BOGUS. theres nothing more i can say.

now for my shite role....
I am Cheng Zhi. I work for the Chinese government and have been brought to the USA to help CTU eliminate all the terrorists. I have no power, I just have to survive.

I Dont know who the fuck that is, but thats who i am. I just hope for the towns sake you dont make a mistake and kill me off and leave The godfather alive. you have been warned, take my advice.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 10, 2008, 12:44:53 AM
just done a vote count...

5 hammer  - Hippo, MikeBlue, Afroboy, Bluestars, Axeman
3 axeman - Hammer, Wes, Miasg

so it looks like despite a cop role going untested, and a guilty verdict passed, I am on 3 counts, 2 votes being who i have identified as Mafia, and one from the supposed hero? ??

Are both Wes and Miasg that scared of Hammers blag of being blown up?
jesus, I'll unvote so you guys can then vote, and i'll be the last. I dont care, We have them on the run, and you guys want to let them wriggle out of it?
unbelievable.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 10, 2008, 12:56:02 AM
I don't remember the chinese coming in to help CTU only to capture Jack Bauer and torture him .. if you are who you say you are then you take the 6th vote on hammer and we'll see if his claim about blowing up is true - a vanilla townie to die is better than jack isn't it?  or do you want me to do it and find out??

if town win we all win ... so who's vote isn;t down ... YB (wow no play from him who would have thought), TP, and zulu ..

is it true that there was a lynch notice put out for Hammer stating who and what he is only to be retracted?  if so who saw it ? 

Happy if he is only a henchman and he's protecting a godfather in hippo then why go for hammer in day when he can be taken out at night .. go for the godfather.   
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2008, 01:00:42 AM
are for real? cant you see Hammer has lied to stitch me up completely to save hippo? Look how desperatly they have both lied through there teeth.
MIASG If your going to kill me in the night for believing such utter trash from an actual mafia and his godfather, then the town dont deserve to win, and you will of killed 2 townies. well done, i thought your char is supposed to be the hero.

HAMMER IS MAFIA, HIPPOS CLAIM IS ALSO BOGUS. theres nothing more i can say.

now for my shite role....
I am Cheng Zhi. I work for the Chinese government and have been brought to the USA to help CTU eliminate all the terrorists. I have no power, I just have to survive.

I Dont know who the fuck that is, but thats who i am. I just hope for the towns sake you dont make a mistake and kill me off and leave The godfather alive. you have been warned, take my advice.

Nice try, but you've messed up there. Cheng Zhi was one of the fake role claims we all got given and I didn't choose it and told my guy not to because it would look suss. Why?

Quote from: Wiki
Cheng Zhi is a fictional character played by Tzi Ma on the television series 24. He is a Chinese official and an enemy of Jack Bauer. At the end of Day 6 Bauer badly scars Cheng during an assault and captures him.

I've told you. Lynch Axeman, and then either kill me at night or leave me alive so then tomorrow I'll give you the name of Axeman's partner. Either way you kill me, I just want to even the odds for my mafia against Axeman's.

Axeman is either the scum name I know he is, or as he is now claiming an evil chinese who is an enemy of Jack Bauer? Its surely a nobrainer.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 10, 2008, 01:02:09 AM
I don't remember the chinese coming in to help CTU only to capture Jack Bauer and torture him .. if you are who you say you are then you take the 6th vote on hammer and we'll see if his claim about blowing up is true - a vanilla townie to die is better than jack isn't it?  or do you want me to do it and find out??

if town win we all win ... so who's vote isn;t down ... YB (wow no play from him who would have thought), TP, and zulu ..

is it true that there was a lynch notice put out for Hammer stating who and what he is only to be retracted?  if so who saw it ? 

Happy if he is only a henchman and he's protecting a godfather in hippo then why go for hammer in day when he can be taken out at night .. go for the godfather.  
ok miasg, UNVOTE HAMMER
you can vote for him, and i'll take the hit.  ;)

I did go for hippo, but no-one would have it. and both Hammer and Hippo have tried twisting my change of vote to hammer...
 all you got to do is read through from the beginning to see how hippo manipulated and encouraged arguments, he helped trick you about TCH. he is the godfather, but people just cannot see it cause they havent read back and looked it the bigger picture. You can see how hammer and hippo set guides for each other and bounce of each other.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2008, 01:05:05 AM
ok miasg, UNVOTE HAMMER
you can vote for him, and i'll take the hit.  ;)

I did go for hippo, but no-one would have it. and both Hammer and Hippo have tried twisting my change of vote to hammer...
 all you got to do is read through from the beginning to see how hippo manipulated and encouraged arguments, he helped trick you about TCH. he is the godfather, but people just cannot see it cause they havent read back and looked it the bigger picture. You can see how hammer and hippo set guides for each other and bounce of each other.

Look, if your gonna stitch me up, I still don't see why your covering for Habib unless something different was in your cell. You came after me to try and make yourself look good, and now its backfiring and your getting nervous spouting balderdash about me bouncing of someone? Explain what that means with evidence. My cell will unleash Jihad on you so quick otherwise.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2008, 01:06:33 AM
ok miasg, UNVOTE HAMMER
you can vote for him, and i'll take the hit.

Doing anything to deflect from him. He knows that I only explode on Townies.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 10, 2008, 01:08:16 AM
Fuck it!

Onvote Happy, vote Hammer
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 10, 2008, 01:08:38 AM
stitch you up? lmfao
youve as good as admitted your mafia, so why dont you just stop your bullshit now, despite how amusing it is. lol

if people believe and are taken in by what youve been saying then they really are demented. lol good try hammer.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 10, 2008, 01:08:59 AM
At this moment in time I have no real reason to think otherwise have I? People are going to bring up this idea and yes it is a possibility ..... guess there is only one way to find out for sure.

Maybe TP is mafia and wants everyone to claim to see who is best to take out  ???

Mike your a fool, stop and think about it for one minute... too many people have role claimed townies so far which could either come back to bite them or prove useful to the town, why focus on people who have role claimed that havent been caught out already ??? it doesnt make sence... we can use the info from peoples claims after putting pressure on everyone else to see what they come out with.  I think we need to make sure we lynch mafia otherwise we will probably be out numbered after the night phase especially if miasg takes out another townie, just look at how many townies we lost in the first night
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 10, 2008, 01:09:59 AM
saving mafia isn't my thing .. as I said you can't be trusted.

go for it axeman he's all yours

damn wes voted - I nearly was the 6th .. ok axeman he's all yours
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2008, 01:10:15 AM
Fuck it!

Onvote Happy, vote Hammer

He has claimed an enemy of Jack Bauer. How can you not see I'm lying the truth?

Fine. I tryed to help the town.

Go My Mafia cell, NOT Axemans!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Happy Axeman on October 10, 2008, 01:10:41 AM
lol where did wes come from? lol

shitbags the lot of you. lol
notice how TP hasnt voted....  ;)

VOTE DERHAMMER
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2008, 01:11:12 AM
saving mafia isn't my thing .. as I said you can't be trusted.

but Jack...you loved me once? you trusted me?


Surely you must kill the Chinese bastard that imprisoned you
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 10, 2008, 01:12:35 AM
VOTE DERHAMMER

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO----------eh?

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 10, 2008, 05:34:41 PM
Vote count
6 – Sir Hammer (Wesmancity, Hippo, Mikeblue, Afroboy, Bluestars, Axeman)
1 – Hippo (Sir Hammer)
1 – Axeman (Wesmancity)
1 – Afroboy (MiasG)

Sir Hammer keeps pleading his innocence thinking up new and bizarre ways of trying to convince people that he really is on their side but in the end he gives up and tries to cut a deal to see him live for as long as possible. The remaining members of CTU see right through this act and in the mayhem somebody fires off a shot that kills Sir Hammer. It turns out he was a member of a terrorist cell that had infiltrated CTU!

Dead players
StevenRyals: George Mason – Townie – Lynched on day 1
Hammerbro: Ramon Salazar – Cult leader – Shot in the leg and head on night 1
TCH: Bill Buchanan – Townie – Shot through head on night 1
Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard – Shot  in the back on night 1
Sir Hammer: Nina Myers - Mafia henchman - Lynched on day 2

It is now Night 2.

The deadline for night choices and communication is Monday at 5pm. Anybody with night powers can now use them
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 12, 2008, 03:34:41 PM
08:00

With the revelation that Nina Myers was infact a terrorist the CTU doctor realises that Nina was the one who came in earlier to receive treatment a gunshot wound to her arm. The gun found on her is not standard CTU issue and they realise that it was Nina that killed Ramon Salazar earlier in the night.
A few more hours pass and CTU have found and killed 2 of the terrorists responsible for the day's attacks but at a cost as 3 members of CTU have been killed as well. News comes in that the body of Cheng Zhi has been found in a burnt out car on the highway leading out of LA. It appears he was trying to flee after the day's terrorist attacks.

Dead players
StevenRyals: George Mason – Townie – Lynched on day 1
Hammerbro: Ramon Salazar – Cult leader – Shot in the leg and head on night 1
TCH: Bill Buchanan – Townie – Shot through head on night 1
Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard – Shot  in the back on night 1
Sir Hammer: Nina Myers - Mafia henchman - Shot in the arm on night 1 and lynched on day 2
Happy Axeman: Cheng Zhi – Neutral survivor – Shot through head on night 2

Players still alive (9)
Mikeblue 
MiasG
Bluestars
Hippo
Trick Pony
Afroboy
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

It is now Day 3. It will take 5 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Sir Villain on October 12, 2008, 04:54:47 PM
Don't believe these outrageous lies!! I'm innocent...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 12, 2008, 05:54:48 PM
So i guess that additional info means there is no serial killer, and confirms that it was Hammer that his brother tried to recruit. Only one kill too, so i'm assuming a doctor or someone did some good work. Obviously it would have been nice to take out some mafia, but that's a pretty decent night.

Also interesting that Axeman wasn't town and neutral? Haven't seen that before. I guess that's the reason he came after someone who'd claimed, and been found innocent, so strongly with such inane reasoning - he must have needed both townies and scum gone. I thought something must have been up when he claimed that name - it's an evil character in 24.

MIASG, was that kill you or the mafia? And mike, anything new?

Be nice to see a few more people involved this time, rather than just being allowed to sit back and cruise through. Of nine people alive now, i don't remember much in the way of opinion from Zulu, Yorkshire, Afro or Bluestars yesterday. 3 of those posted a few times, but they didn't get involved in any of the conflict. Why? Distancing themselves. Not wanting to get drawn in. Process of elimination means the remaining mafia are in this group.

Yorkshire Blue posted a massive twice yesterday (the first two posts) after being one of the main suspects on day one. Trying to slip under the radar. And who could blame him? He did, after all, accuse Bauer AFTER he'd claimed it, undisputed. And his posting style changed dramatically on day one, which when pointed out as suspicious, he's gone missing. Hardly posted at all since. Knows he looked suspicious, so like i said, he's trying to slip under the radar. Maybe a vote'll get you posting..

vote Yorkshire Blue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 12, 2008, 05:55:59 PM
Forgot to say.. would have included quote examples, but i've got to get to the pub. Will do it in the morning if people can't remember stuff.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 12, 2008, 07:06:20 PM
sorry i cant commit my life to this game sadly there are other things
taking the radar off you hippo
vote mafia godfather hippo
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 12, 2008, 10:23:42 PM
I want to hear from Mikeblue, unfortunatley he will have to probably role claim otherwise I will have to believe Sir Hammer... his claim looks pretty good at this stage.
Well the way I see it is that if I was paranoid they would both come back the same.

I may have a cop reversal role yes. I'm kinda of thinking that myself. With what has happened I think the only way forward is to lynch Hippo. Would be a tough call to lynch Sir Hammer after his claim.

Either way we will know something. We might even get lucky and Hippo be the Godfather as he has played that kind of game where he could be. Then we still have the info on Sir Hammer to come back to. And maybe some more after tonight.


very much deffending your leader TP, you are next to go son, Axean picked up on you not voting on day two.

Vote: Trick Pony

dont trust, Hippo, Zulu and Yorkshire
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 12, 2008, 10:28:11 PM
sorry i cant commit my life to this game sadly there are other things
taking the radar off you hippo
vote mafia godfather hippo

That's great. What are you basing that on then? The fact that i've claimed a main character, with nobody contesting it? The fact that i've been investigated and proven innocent? The fact that the people spouting the ridiculous stuff you're saying have been proven not to be townies? Or was it just that i voted for you? Interesting that you found time to post straight after you received a vote isn't it? But that's fine.

And if you are being genuine, no one's asking you to devote your whole life to it, they're asking you to play if you say you're going to play, rather than just wasting people's time.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 12, 2008, 10:56:26 PM
just a quick post to check in and to tell you guys I'm going on holiday tomorrow for the week, but I will have my iPhone with me so providing I can get a signal by the coast I'll still be playing.

As for those of you who keep saying I'm mafia without giving any reason at all you make yourselves stand out like a sore thumb in my eyes. If you read back hammer said that his cell tried to take me out but a town body guard took the bullet for me.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 12, 2008, 11:14:12 PM

very much deffending your leader TP, you are next to go son, Axean picked up on you not voting on day two.

Vote: Trick Pony

dont trust, Hippo, Zulu and Yorkshire

what a weak point to vote on wes... I logged on after one night and there were 3 pages to read, I had just started to read through and post comments on them when happy locked the thread so I didnt get the chance to catch up before the lynch... eitherway your vote doesnt bother me as i have nothing to hide... do you ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 12, 2008, 11:55:47 PM
The fact that i've claimed a main character, with nobody contesting it? The fact that i've been investigated and proven innocent?
- claims pres

As for those of you who keep saying I'm mafia without giving any reason at all you make yourselves stand out like a sore thumb in my eyes. If you read back hammer said that his cell tried to take me out but a town body guard took the bullet for me.
so your really saying your pres too ..  now mz potentially away not good .. MZ can you confirm your claim as pres?

I don't know about anyone else but I took out Happy .. claiming a known character that's the enemy ?  not smart .. guess he had no real powers anyway. 

also I'm moving house in 2 days and will be without internet for a day or 2 but I'm only missing 1 day of work so I should still be around apart from that 24 hrs (no pun intended)..

YB you keep apearing early then disapearing ..

Bluestars was nonexistant day 2 ...

I've said I'm pretty sure TP is town yet people are still attacking him .. Wes your attacking a target from a mafia/cult member with not much else to go on ...

I'm not targeting anyone specific yet until I hear from mikeblue ..

what's interesting is that it was Nina Myers and not me or the pres that was shot on night one.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 13, 2008, 12:51:30 AM
MIASG has claimed to have killed Happy Axeman during the night, and there were no other night kills so that means that either the town roleblocker's or doctor's worked over time during the night to help save the town. 

I dont think there are two mafia cells unless we had a roleblock and a save which seems unlikley.. possible but unlikley..

Id say that mafia targeted MIASG and he was saved

or

Mafia targeted MIASG and he was saved and our roleblocker blocked the other mafia cells action...

Any thoughts ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 13, 2008, 01:02:54 AM
so your really saying your pres too ..  now mz potentially away not good .. MZ can you confirm your claim as pres?

Bodyguard's a game role, where you pick someone to protect each night. If that person gets fired at, then you take the bullet for them. Rather than being associated to the president. Do you not think he'd be voting for me or saying something if i'd stolen his character?

If you read back hammer said that his cell tried to take me out but a town body guard took the bullet for me.

Hammer said that yes, but he also lied about a lot of things. In order for that to have actually happened, not only would the mafia have had to target you, but laser blue would also have had to have chosen you to protect. Seems kind of unlikely, given that MIASG had revealed he was Jack Bauer on day one. Using something that's obviously false as a defense makes me somewhat suspicious of you.

MIASG has claimed to have killed Happy Axeman during the night, and there were no other night kills so that means that either the town roleblocker's or doctor's worked over time during the night to help save the town. 

I dont think there are two mafia cells unless we had a roleblock and a save which seems unlikley.. possible but unlikley..

Id say that mafia targeted MIASG and he was saved

or

Mafia targeted MIASG and he was saved and our roleblocker blocked the other mafia cells action...

Any thoughts ?

MIASG or Mikeblue seem the most likely targets yes. And there'd have to be a doctor, roleblocker, or bulletproof townie to explain the lack of a mafia kill. Probably worth a reveal if it was a roleblocker - if they say who they blocked, we'll know who the godfather is. Obviously then we don't kill the godfather, keep them alive, so that the mafia lose their power to kill at night, and process of elimination should see us find the other mafia member/s soon enough. Then the godfather can go, and we'll have won the game. Simple.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 13, 2008, 01:04:09 AM
Just to stress, it's only worth a reveal if it was roleblocker. Under no circumstances should a doctor do it.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 13, 2008, 01:26:31 AM
actually it's still the weekend here and I have kids, laundry, inlaws and all kinds of real life going on....only caught a glimpse of what happened in the night...I am waiting to hear what mikeblue found out in the night. I will check out everything tomorrow when I am at work.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 13, 2008, 02:52:45 AM
MIASG or Mikeblue seem the most likely targets yes. And there'd have to be a doctor, roleblocker, or bulletproof townie to explain the lack of a mafia kill. Probably worth a reveal if it was a roleblocker - if they say who they blocked, we'll know who the godfather is. Obviously then we don't kill the godfather, keep them alive, so that the mafia lose their power to kill at night, and process of elimination should see us find the other mafia member/s soon enough. Then the godfather can go, and we'll have won the game. Simple.

keeping the godfather alive seems ok as long as there is a roleblocker though we would need to know for certain.

So Mikeblue what did you find out during the night phase ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 13, 2008, 10:59:18 AM
@ MIASG, I never claimed to be the president or even mentioned him at all. I was just reiterating what hammer said about the mafia trying to take me out and the town bodyguard taking the hit instead.

Right at this moment in time I'm just a regular townie with no powers.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 13, 2008, 11:08:16 AM
@ hippo, (sorry can't quote post. No cut and paste on iPhone) I wasn't aware that's how the body guard role worked to what hammer said looked plausable to me.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 13, 2008, 11:34:31 AM
keeping the godfather alive seems ok as long as there is a roleblocker though we would need to know for certain.

So Mikeblue what did you find out during the night phase ?

Well yeah. I was saying that if the scenario of a roleblocker stopping the mafia had happened last night, then it'd be worth a claim by the person who blocked them, because they can just keep doing that, stopping the mafia doing anything, until we find the other/s. I'm guessing there'd only be 3 of them, due to there being a cult as well, and only 15 players. 4 would be the absolute maximum. I'm not saying we should just take a guess between us, it's only if we know for certain.

Right at this moment in time I'm just a regular townie with no powers.

So at a different moment in time, you're not?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 13, 2008, 12:25:30 PM
Well yeah. I was saying that if the scenario of a roleblocker stopping the mafia had happened last night, then it'd be worth a claim by the person who blocked them, because they can just keep doing that, stopping the mafia doing anything, until we find the other/s. I'm guessing there'd only be 3 of them, due to there being a cult as well, and only 15 players. 4 would be the absolute maximum. I'm not saying we should just take a guess between us, it's only if we know for certain.

So at a different moment in time, you're not?

Well that all depends on the well being of my fellow townies.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 13, 2008, 02:23:38 PM
Very interesting.....few really confusing things for me at this time...but just have only a few minutes to come on and address a few things...first off Miasg I wasn't nonexistent I was here and posting...but was letting the Axeman/Hammer/Mikeblue fiasco work itself out because the more they all posted the more information was coming out and I was trying to figure out which one I believed. I was here...I did post and I did vote...the fact I didn't get in the mix was to allow the truth to come out...and in my opinion it did.

I'm still working out a few things in my mind....the two mafia cell claim by Hammer....since there was only one kill and Miasg is claiming that...what would the odds be that both were roleblocked? I'm leaning toward thinking that is not correct.

Serial killer...well I am still inclined to think there is one in the game...but at this point not as important and possibly unlikely as no kill by them either....could be that a kill would give too much information so they choose not to...but leaning toward thinking not one...but not fully convinced.

For me....mikeblue proved himself last night with the Hammer deal.....that being said...I'm inclined to hear what he has to say....very bizzare to me that he survived the night! Good for the town though that is for sure!

I am against the roleblocker claiming....because in my mind I can't think of a positive for the town in doing so.....then if we do reveal the roleblocker....then I fear that the wrong people might push to avoid blocking the person needed....I think IF we have a roleblocker or something then that person should just watch the game today and do what they do....

I am going to be out today with the kids out of school....this has been a hard time for me to stay involved..but planning a wedding....working on a new software system and so forth...I'm doing  my best to remain involved....that being said...I'll probably not make it back today...but will try to log on tomorrow or later this afternoon.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 13, 2008, 04:45:48 PM
I am against the roleblocker claiming....because in my mind I can't think of a positive for the town in doing so.....then if we do reveal the roleblocker....then I fear that the wrong people might push to avoid blocking the person needed....I think IF we have a roleblocker or something then that person should just watch the game today and do what they do....

That doesn't make any sense. I'm only saying, if there's a roleblocker, and they blocked someone last night, because of the lack of a mafia kill, it would seem likely that they blocked the godfather. Therefore there'd be no swaying of anything. They'd simply do the same again, and it should stop the mafia doing anything again in the game. If it's not a roleblocker, then no, nothing should happen; nobody should claim. But being against what i said makes me think you don't want the group to know who the godfather is. Why might that be?

Where's mikeblue? We need his information really before we start doing anything properly.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 13, 2008, 05:59:34 PM
Well yeah. I was saying that if the scenario of a roleblocker stopping the mafia had happened last night, then it'd be worth a claim by the person who blocked them, because they can just keep doing that, stopping the mafia doing anything, until we find the other/s. I'm guessing there'd only be 3 of them, due to there being a cult as well, and only 15 players. 4 would be the absolute maximum. I'm not saying we should just take a guess between us, it's only if we know for certain.

So at a different moment in time, you're not?

Headed out of work for the day...but wanted to clarify what I stated...

Here is why the confusion started for me is in the statement above it sounds as though you were stating that the roleblocker should claim....and my opinion is that someone with a powerful role for town shouldn't claim...unless it is absolutely necessary.

The way I see it....we don't know if there is a roleblocker...if there is....one we still don't know if he was sucessful...IF...as suming that there is one...and they blocked someone and now know something...then they shouldn't feel pressure to come out and claim THEIR role at this point....unless they just want to...but for me it gives the mafia an easy target....I would rather see how the day progresses...if the lynch voting today is different than what the roleblocker knows...then offer information...but to simply offer it at this stage seemed to me...well pointless...it only serves to get killed...but maybe I'm missing something....

Where is mikeblue...I agree like I said before...not voting til I hear what he has to say.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 13, 2008, 06:19:52 PM
but maybe I'm missing something....

You are.

If someone has blocked the mafia, it doesn't matter whether they're a target or not, they simply won't be able to kill them. Because they'll be blocked all the time. And obviously, knowing who the godfather is would be a massive advantage to the town.

But we don't even know that that's what happened, so let's not get stuck in a rut talking about. It was just a suggestion.

Mike, hurry up. Everyone's getting bored.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 13, 2008, 11:20:12 PM
....this has been a hard time for me to stay involved..but planning a wedding....
Steven step up will ya and give your woman more time to play
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 13, 2008, 11:27:40 PM
if there is a serial killer they would have targeted me or mikeblue ..
if there is 2 mafia cells they would have targeted me or mikeblue ..

we know there is a doctor  ...

we don't know if there is a role blocker still alive ...

it's possible that any remaining non-townies targeted the same person and was stopped.

I still want to know why Nina Meyers was shot in the arm and survived. 

MasterZulu I'm really starting to think that Hammer's claim that they targeted you  was to confuse and mix it up .. now was he was trying to lead us to or away from you?? Right now seeing how noob you are I doubt they'd target you this early.

YorkshireBlue deadset why not modkill yourself you just ain't playing .. claiming you have a life is crap - we all do .. and we signed up on the condition that we would try to play ..

Afroboy .. I thought your laptop was fixed?  I still think you are most evil looking player left .. VOTE AFROBOY ..

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 13, 2008, 11:47:37 PM
That doesn't make any sense. I'm only saying, if there's a roleblocker, and they blocked someone last night, because of the lack of a mafia kill, it would seem likely that they blocked the godfather. Therefore there'd be no swaying of anything. They'd simply do the same again, and it should stop the mafia doing anything again in the game. If it's not a roleblocker, then no, nothing should happen; nobody should claim. But being against what i said makes me think you don't want the group to know who the godfather is. Why might that be?

Where's mikeblue? We need his information really before we start doing anything properly.

yeah thats pretty sus bluestars... quite surprised coming from you. Mike where are you ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 13, 2008, 11:52:18 PM
if there is a serial killer they would have targeted me or mikeblue ..
if there is 2 mafia cells they would have targeted me or mikeblue ..

we know there is a doctor  ...

we don't know if there is a role blocker still alive ...

it's possible that any remaining non-townies targeted the same person and was stopped.

I still want to know why Nina Meyers was shot in the arm and survived. 

MasterZulu I'm really starting to think that Hammer's claim that they targeted you  was to confuse and mix it up .. now was he was trying to lead us to or away from you?? Right now seeing how noob you are I doubt they'd target you this early.

YorkshireBlue deadset why not modkill yourself you just ain't playing .. claiming you have a life is crap - we all do .. and we signed up on the condition that we would try to play ..

Afroboy .. I thought your laptop was fixed?  I still think you are most evil looking player left .. VOTE AFROBOY ..



I think Afro is sus as well but VOTE : YorkshireBlue as hes simply not playing any more. The odds are hes mafia or cult member anyway. if hes not here now i cant see him being around to save the town when its needed.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 14, 2008, 02:56:56 AM
wow this day is slow where is everyone ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 14, 2008, 04:52:49 AM
I think Afro is sus as well but VOTE : YorkshireBlue as hes simply not playing any more. The odds are hes mafia or cult member anyway. if hes not here now i cant see him being around to save the town when its needed.
what's your basis on this?  the cult leader had 1 night to recruit which he did and we found him.  I doubt there was pre-game recruit.  Plus what do you mean anymore - I think I've proven he hasn't been playing all along.  Most the "posters" are in the graveyard or asleep TP .. The game came back early .. I don't think we'll get the explosion that day 2 was ..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 14, 2008, 08:41:58 AM
what's your basis on this?  the cult leader had 1 night to recruit which he did and we found him.  I doubt there was pre-game recruit.  Plus what do you mean anymore - I think I've proven he hasn't been playing all along.  Most the "posters" are in the graveyard or asleep TP .. The game came back early .. I don't think we'll get the explosion that day 2 was ..

im trying to get YB on, we need everyones point of view from here on in, I know YB hasent posted for a while and I think we need to get him out here or get rid of him, simple really. It will be a shame if hes town but hes not here to talk about it so a mod kill is in order I believe, though give him a few more days to see if he finally shows up.  I might spend some time going over previous posts until everyone else decides to start posting, and see if I can find connections from the previous day.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 14, 2008, 09:31:40 AM
really I'm waiting for afro to turn up .. and to see what mikeblue's got to say .. I'm moving so I'll be offline for a day or so
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 14, 2008, 11:54:37 AM
I'm here everyone don't fear!!!

Wel well what have I got for you today......mmmmmm

Wondered where all the kills were????

I think there still might be cult members and one may have been recruited last night. It is still a possibility. Maybe the Cult have the option to kill or recruit at night???

Maybe people were not here to use their night actions??? At the minute these are possibilities or the role blocker has the godfather sussed.......

Yorkshire Blue is just not contributing, Afroboy not doing much either, Bluestars style has changed again and I am very wary of her still, TP the more you talk the more I think you might be evil.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 14, 2008, 12:10:43 PM
I'm here everyone don't fear!!!

Wel well what have I got for you today......mmmmmm

Wondered where all the kills were????

I think there still might be cult members and one may have been recruited last night. It is still a possibility. Maybe the Cult have the option to kill or recruit at night???

Maybe people were not here to use their night actions??? At the minute these are possibilities or the role blocker has the godfather sussed.......

Yorkshire Blue is just not contributing, Afroboy not doing much either, Bluestars style has changed again and I am very wary of her still, TP the more you talk the more I think you might be evil.

That's all well and good, mike, but i think people were actually waiting to see whether you'd investigated someone..   :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 14, 2008, 12:37:04 PM
That's all well and good, mike, but i think people were actually waiting to see whether you'd investigated someone..   :laugh:

Really?????
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 14, 2008, 12:37:29 PM
I can't think straight. I am still in shock I am alive!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 14, 2008, 03:33:44 PM
TP you are talking out of your anal cavity and not making any sense? I think YB did post...and he quite pointedly said....who he voted for....now much explanation...no but when has he ever offered anything...and TP how can you say he's evil looking but if he turns out townie he's not worth it he can just modkill himself....I sware you make no sense...you haven't made any sense or comments that would make me believe you are anything good for the town...and it's statements like that where I think you are evil...and then you backtrack and disappear yourself....you are about as effective for the game as YB except he minimizes all of the same pages of blabber that you offer down to a few lines.

now for afroboy he has been VERY absent and did he even post at all previous day? Not so much as a peep from what I see.

Look I'm confused on the roleblocker issue and I'm not going to continue...I've never had the role and don't get what everyone is on about if there is one he should claim...I think I just figured it was bad for a townie with a good role to roleclaim and it's getting all twisted now...and if there is one they can do whatever they want.

Now everyone is on about the cult...I thought there was a cult and the leader was killed on night one...so how is there still a cult??? How is that possible?? To me that seems like a very weird assumption to make and what evidence is that based off of really?

Miasg what are you talking about Nina still being alive? Huh? I am going to have to go back and read that again...I missed that altogether....or maybe you are confused?

Mikeblue...seems very eager to avoid directly saying whom he investigated....kno wing him it's possible he's just enjoying the power and having a laugh...but at this point in the game I have no reason to vote without hearing what he has to say...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 14, 2008, 04:30:32 PM
Bluestars is Evil!

Vote Bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 14, 2008, 04:39:39 PM
VOTE BLUESTARS!

I agree the biotch is evil....known it from the start...but being the generous person that I am....let it slide til it was confirmed.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: bluestarsneyes on October 14, 2008, 04:40:03 PM
Opps...let's make it official....

VOTE BLUESTARS
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 14, 2008, 04:47:58 PM
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Sorry to make you waste your time and post.

Just thought it would make me chuckle to see what you had to say after the nights events  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 14, 2008, 05:15:59 PM
Bluestars is Evil!

Vote Bluestars


2 nights in a row. Quality.

vote Bluestars

Good work making her actually post as well because i think it's given us some decent info. She seemed to have quite a strong go at TP for accusing Yorkshire. Dunno if it was misdirection, or just an outright defense 100%, but i'd stick money on Yorkshire Blue being the other one, from the way he's played compared with TP. Unless TP's sticking in a pretty masterful performance.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 14, 2008, 05:18:04 PM
oops..

unvote Yorkshire Blue
vote Bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 14, 2008, 05:59:43 PM
Not had much time to look at this day but the evidence is conclusive so...

Vote Bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 14, 2008, 06:01:39 PM
I think hippo is godfather of the mafia and if it wasn't for this I would of voted for him.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 14, 2008, 06:31:52 PM
Miasg I just red back, seen you have voted for me.

I know you have killed off two innocent people already. Don't make the same mistake again, I am innocent and I can prove it if I need to, you need to look at hippo.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 14, 2008, 06:54:25 PM
So, despite..

- Me revealing as one of the most unequivocally GOOD characters in the game.
- Nobody contesting this fact (because it's obviously the truth).
- An innocent verdict backing my claim up.
- The fact that both people saying what you're saying (also with no reasons) have been shown to not actually be townies themselves.

..you're still convinced i'm godfather?

Can you actually give me a reason, or is it just the standard evil line this game? Starting to seem like it. Kind of helpful though, it's shown you up somewhat.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 14, 2008, 07:19:01 PM
unvote Trick pony, vote bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 14, 2008, 08:12:28 PM
Vote count
4 – Bluestars (Mikeblue, Hippo, Afroboy, Wesmancity)
1 – Hippo (Yorkshire)
1 – Afroboy (MiasG)
1 – YorkshireBlue (Trick Pony)

It will take 5 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: *Afroboy* on October 14, 2008, 08:46:40 PM
This was my first vote
Also you said that “accusing people is the only way forward”, well if everyone was like you so far we wouldn’t get anywhere as you say this yet put no accusations in your post!!
And then you say about bluestars and steve should do a “worthwhile” post count, if you wanted one to find anything out you should try to do one yourself and not leave all the dirty work to others.
Vote Hammer

This was MAFIA HAMMERS reaction to me.
Your whole post seems like its an attempt to cast suspiscion on me early like im a threat.
Fos:Afroboy

Later today I'll have come up with some thoughts, however you picking on me when I already have a few votes on my for inactivity stinks of opportunism, and I think it should be noted by the others.
 

The following vote count……
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)

The next vote count……
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)

Then I say
My vote sticks with hammer

The next vote count
3 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue, Hippo, MiasG)
3 – Trick Pony (TCH, Bluestars, StevenRyals)
2 – TCH (Wesmancity, Trick Pony)
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)

The next Vote count
3 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue, Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony (Bluestars, YorkshireBlue)
1 – TCH (Hammerbro)
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)

In hammers next post
FOS:Afroboy

Next Vote count
3 – YorkshireBlue (Mikeblue, Hippo, MiasG)
3 – Trick Pony (Bluestars, YorkshireBlue, Laserblue)
2 – Afroboy (TCH, Axeman)
1 – TCH (Hammerbro)
1 – Sir Hammer (Afroboy)

Another of my posts on the first day Voting Mafia Bluestars….
was already suspicious of you bluestars and these two posts makes me think that even more. At the moment for me wes isn't one of the most sus people, also I didn't go on about you not being around. I did say you weren't posting as much as usual but i feel you have twisted my words. For me you are looking very suspect in the way you post, i do understand the reasons for lack of posting but it's what you're posting that i Vote bluestars for.

& the next Vote count
3 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue, Mikeblue)
2 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG)
2 – Trick Pony ( YorkshireBlue, Masterzulu)
2 - StevenRyalls (Wesman, Sir Hammer)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals,)
1 – Afroboy (TCH)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)
1 - Wesman (Bluestars)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)

The Next
3 – YorkshireBlue (Hippo, MiasG, Trickpony)
2 – Trick Pony (YorkshireBlue, MasterZulu)
2 – TCH (Hammerbro, Laserblue)
1 - Wesmancity(Bluestars)
1 – Happy Axeman (StevenRyals)
1 – Laserblue (Axeman)
1 - MasterZulu (mikeblue)
1 - StevenRyals (SirHammer)
1 - Hammersbro (tch)
1 - Bluestars (Afro)

These are my actions in the first two days. I think it pretty much proves my innocence.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 14, 2008, 10:38:52 PM
.. or it's the classic mafia technique of distancing yourself from your colleagues. That post seems VERY contrived. Like you've been planning it ever since you made those votes.

If you look at ALL of those votecounts, you're the only person voting for that particular person. So they're not really influential votes. You're certainly not urging MIASG to kill them like you apparently are with me now. There's hardly any pressure; hardly any reasoning. Just votes to the right people, that would distort any stats that might appear at some point to make you seem good. Or that you can drag up in situations like this.

Okay, i think you've voted for both after they've been found guilty as well, but that hardly clears you does it? It's something you would have to do. If you go back to the last game, when i actually was godfather with bluestars in my mafia, i actually instigated and orchestrated an entire lynch on her. And also, while you're reading that game, might wanna check and see how i played as godfather. I went all out to show i was town, i didn't sit back or anything like i've been accused of in this game. That's how you trick people in to thinking you're town, when you're not. You have to be an ultra townie and do all the right things, because you don't have a strong name or roleclaim to fall back on. And you can do all the right things easily, because you know exactly who you're supposed to be voting for. Townies make the mistakes. Mafia are the ones who can do exactly what you've done to make themselves look good.

I think the reason you've come out now saying i'm the godfather, is that you've seen some other dodgy folk saying the same thing, and some people almost going along with it, and decided i'm the easiest person to put the focus on to. Without, as you admitted earlier, having actually read up to check whether that was actually still the case.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 14, 2008, 11:11:04 PM
TP you are talking out of your anal cavity and not making any sense? I think YB did post...and he quite pointedly said....who he voted for....now much explanation...no but when has he ever offered anything...and TP how can you say he's evil looking but if he turns out townie he's not worth it he can just modkill himself....I sware you make no sense...you haven't made any sense or comments that would make me believe you are anything good for the town...and it's statements like that where I think you are evil...and then you backtrack and disappear yourself....you are about as effective for the game as YB except he minimizes all of the same pages of blabber that you offer down to a few lines.

now for afroboy he has been VERY absent and did he even post at all previous day? Not so much as a peep from what I see.

Look I'm confused on the roleblocker issue and I'm not going to continue...I've never had the role and don't get what everyone is on about if there is one he should claim...I think I just figured it was bad for a townie with a good role to roleclaim and it's getting all twisted now...and if there is one they can do whatever they want.

Now everyone is on about the cult...I thought there was a cult and the leader was killed on night one...so how is there still a cult??? How is that possible?? To me that seems like a very weird assumption to make and what evidence is that based off of really?

Miasg what are you talking about Nina still being alive? Huh? I am going to have to go back and read that again...I missed that altogether....or maybe you are confused?

Mikeblue...seems very eager to avoid directly saying whom he investigated....kno wing him it's possible he's just enjoying the power and having a laugh...but at this point in the game I have no reason to vote without hearing what he has to say...

Ow I love how have have plenty of time to play once the games gets down to the crunch... your dodgy playing style will get lynched shortly. 

Also its interesting to see how many times you have voted for me during this game Bluestars and YB, from my point of view your both evil so eitherway with Bluestars gone we move a step closer for a town win.  I think Bluestars has been sitting with the safety vote on me while letting your minions go around doing the work... 

Not had much time to look at this day but the evidence is conclusive so...

Vote Bluestars

afro your conclusion is based on what  ??? you look like mafia jumping on a bandwagon, I think some of the votes on Bluestars are mafia jumping in on a quick lynch. Though I think Bluestars is mafia I want to hear her roleclaim before voting, we need to make sure she isnt town, so the mafia dont get away with a quick lynch..

So Bluestars ?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 14, 2008, 11:24:54 PM
Ow I love how have have plenty of time to play once the games gets down to the crunch... your dodgy playing style will get lynched shortly. 

Also its interesting to see how many times you have voted for me during this game Bluestars and YB, from my point of view your both evil so eitherway with Bluestars gone we move a step closer for a town win.  I think Bluestars has been sitting with the safety vote on me while letting your minions go around doing the work... 

afro your conclusion is based on what  ??? you look like mafia jumping on a bandwagon, I think some of the votes on Bluestars are mafia jumping in on a quick lynch. Though I think Bluestars is mafia I want to hear her roleclaim before voting, we need to make sure she isnt town, so the mafia dont get away with a quick lynch..

So Bluestars ?

What a strange post. Why would anyone possibly want to offer her any way out? The cop has told us she's evil. She responded by apparently confirming this. Seems quite conclusive to me?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 14, 2008, 11:32:00 PM
Looks pretty conclusive to me
Vote Bluestars

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 14, 2008, 11:56:56 PM
that's the day over.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 15, 2008, 12:25:28 AM
Bluestars is Evil!

Vote Bluestars


going off that post by Mikeblue is nutz... O well we will find out soon enough.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 15, 2008, 11:46:42 AM
going off that post by Mikeblue is nutz... O well we will find out soon enough.
just got time to post and the day is over brilliant
what are you on about tp mikeblue is the cop and you are mafia tp
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 15, 2008, 06:51:53 PM
Vote count
5 – Bluestars (Mikeblue, Hippo, Afroboy, Wesmancity, Masterzulu)
1 – Yorkshire Blue (Hippo)
1 – Hippo (Yorkshire)
1 – Afroboy (MiasG)
1 – YorkshireBlue (Trick Pony)

Dead players
StevenRyals: George Mason – Townie – Lynched on day 1
Hammerbro: Ramon Salazar – Cult leader – Shot in the leg and head on night 1
TCH: Bill Buchanan – Townie – Shot through head on night 1
Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard – Shot  in the back on night 1
Sir Hammer: Nina Myers - Mafia henchman - Lynched on day 2
Happy Axeman: Cheng Zhi – Neutral survivor – Shot through head on night 2
Bluestars: Philip Bauer – Mafia henchman – Lynched on day 3

It is now Night 3. The deadline for night choices and communication is Friday at 7pm. Anybody with night powers can now use them
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 17, 2008, 07:44:00 PM
16:00

The day moves on quite significantly and another 2 CTU employees are found dead but by whose hand were they killed? No more terrorist attacks have occurred so CTU presume that they have managed to wipe out most of the terrorist threat but there are still 8 hours left in the day and anything can happen!

Dead players
StevenRyals: George Mason – Townie – Lynched on day 1
Hammerbro: Ramon Salazar – Cult leader – Shot in the leg and head on night 1
TCH: Bill Buchanan – Townie – Shot through head on night 1
Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard – Shot  in the back on night 1
Sir Hammer: Nina Myers - Mafia henchman - Lynched on day 2
Happy Axeman: Cheng Zhi – Neutral survivor – Shot through head on night 2
Bluestars: Philip Bauer – Mafia henchman – Lynched on day 3
Mikeblue: Tony Almeida – Townie Cop – Shot through back on night 3
Afroboy: Morris O’ Brian – Townie mason Shot through head on night 3

Players still alive (6)
MiasG 
Hippo
Trick Pony
Wesmancity
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

It is now Day 4. It will take 4 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 17, 2008, 08:08:38 PM
Bad night for us loosing two townies. Trick pony hmmmmm Vote Trick Pony
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 17, 2008, 08:38:49 PM
Damn it two more townies lost  :'(

What happened to MIASGs kill? did you accidently take out a townie?

From what I now know though it looks like Mikeblues investigations we're bang on apart from one thing which I don't quite yet understand.

So its looks like MIASG, Hippo and Myself are the remaining town and Trick Pony, Wesmancity and Yorkshire Blue are the remaining mafia. Only two mafia have been taken out so far so I'm pretty sure we are gonna have a 50/50 split here if I haven't over looked something.

TP you have my vote next, I've been on to you for a while but I'll wait untill others have had chance to post before I cast my vote.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 17, 2008, 09:20:35 PM
Damn it two more townies lost  :'(

What happened to MIASGs kill? did you accidently take out a townie?

From what I now know though it looks like Mikeblues investigations we're bang on apart from one thing which I don't quite yet understand.

So its looks like MIASG, Hippo and Myself are the remaining town and Trick Pony, Wesmancity and Yorkshire Blue are the remaining mafia. Only two mafia have been taken out so far so I'm pretty sure we are gonna have a 50/50 split here if I haven't over looked something.

TP you have my vote next, I've been on to you for a while but I'll wait untill others have had chance to post before I cast my vote.

well im willing to roleclaim for the town is Trick Pony?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 18, 2008, 06:30:47 AM
TP I'm not worried about ..

I did kill afroboy .. my dsl at home is not working and at best will be fixed tuesday my time (at my olds to see what happened) - I'm shit as Jack Bauer  :'(

Hippo I still have to believe

MZ I'm thinking is town ..

so that leaves wes and YB .. Wes is always around .. so VOTE YorkShireBLue  - once again if you are town the help out - your still not helping this far in so you gotta be evil..

@bluestars - you had to be evil since you didn't do your usual vote count summary when your town  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 18, 2008, 10:48:48 AM
So its looks like MIASG, Hippo and Myself are the remaining town and Trick Pony, Wesmancity and Yorkshire Blue are the remaining mafia. Only two mafia have been taken out so far so I'm pretty sure we are gonna have a 50/50 split here if I haven't over looked something.

I don't think that's the case. You usually have between 1/4 and 1/3 evil in a game to make it balance properly. So that'd be 4 or 5, and we've killed 3. Maybe 4 actually, i'm not sure what you'd class axeman as, because he wasn't town, but wasn't evil. So there should only be 1 or 2 left, so as long as we're not stupid, we outnumber them and we should win.

The fact that you know who i am, who miasg is, and we know there's another mason.. they may as well claim? Because we'll 100% know they're telling the truth. That'd mean of the 6 of us alive, 3 were known townies, with the 1 or 2 evil guaranteed to be in the other 3 people. And with those numbers,  i can't see how we'd manage not to win.

TP I'm not worried about ..

See, i've been going along with this, because i figured you'd just know, but then he posted at the end of yesterday making out that Mike finding Bluestars guilty, and her admitting it, wasn't enough to go on for a lynch. Seemed extremely bizarre. So just to check before i start making some proper decisions, are you actually sure?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Mikeblue on October 18, 2008, 05:26:49 PM
God damn it!!!

Come on Town you can still do this as long as MIASG stops killing off all the fucking townies!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 18, 2008, 05:37:28 PM
where is everyone? come ya bar-stewards get on here!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 19, 2008, 09:27:55 AM
I don't think that's the case. You usually have between 1/4 and 1/3 evil in a game to make it balance properly. So that'd be 4 or 5, and we've killed 3. Maybe 4 actually, i'm not sure what you'd class axeman as, because he wasn't town, but wasn't evil. So there should only be 1 or 2 left, so as long as we're not stupid, we outnumber them and we should win.

The fact that you know who i am, who miasg is, and we know there's another mason.. they may as well claim? Because we'll 100% know they're telling the truth. That'd mean of the 6 of us alive, 3 were known townies, with the 1 or 2 evil guaranteed to be in the other 3 people. And with those numbers,  i can't see how we'd manage not to win.

See, i've been going along with this, because i figured you'd just know, but then he posted at the end of yesterday making out that Mike finding Bluestars guilty, and her admitting it, wasn't enough to go on for a lynch. Seemed extremely bizarre. So just to check before i start making some proper decisions, are you actually sure?

I didnt get the chance to finish what I wanted to say.. but it doesnt matter anymore, and MIASG im starting to think your actually evil as you keep killing townies you have probably killed more townies than mafia have...

well im willing to roleclaim for the town is Trick Pony?

yes I am willing to roleclaim wesmancity as I said days ago if needed so who are you wes ? I am the town doctor wes so who are you ?

To prove I am the doctor I can post who I saved each night which may help us out but only if the majority say its a good idea.  I think it is necessary to roleclaim at this stage as we would waiste to much time looking at me instead of looking at;
 
Hippo
Wesmancity - waiting on his roleclaim - probably mafia
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

VOTE YorkShireBLue 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 19, 2008, 10:56:40 AM
I didnt get the chance to finish what I wanted to say.. but it doesnt matter anymore, and MIASG im starting to think your actually evil as you keep killing townies you have probably killed more townies than mafia have...

yes I am willing to roleclaim wesmancity as I said days ago if needed so who are you wes ? I am the town doctor wes so who are you ?

To prove I am the doctor I can post who I saved each night which may help us out but only if the majority say its a good idea.  I think it is necessary to roleclaim at this stage as we would waiste to much time looking at me instead of looking at;
 
Hippo
Wesmancity - waiting on his roleclaim - probably mafia
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

VOTE YorkShireBLue 

yes but who are you????, anyone could say that there are a doctor!

I am Kim Bauer and im a townie.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 19, 2008, 12:13:53 PM
hmm seems like there may be more to miasg's role than meets the eye. Now we have jacks daughter involved, so how do we know she hasn't been kindnapped and jack is working against the town to save her, enough townies have been killed by jack a far to warrant suspicion.

Reading wiki she has been kidnaped more times than I've had hot dinners

TP claiming doctor has threw a lot of thing up in the air in my mind, looks like things may not be as black and White as I thought.

   
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: yorkshire blue on October 19, 2008, 12:31:59 PM
I didnt get the chance to finish what I wanted to say.. but it doesnt matter anymore, and MIASG im starting to think your actually evil as you keep killing townies you have probably killed more townies than mafia have...

yes I am willing to roleclaim wesmancity as I said days ago if needed so who are you wes ? I am the town doctor wes so who are you ?

To prove I am the doctor I can post who I saved each night which may help us out but only if the majority say its a good idea.  I think it is necessary to roleclaim at this stage as we would waiste to much time looking at me instead of looking at;
 
Hippo
Wesmancity - waiting on his roleclaim - probably mafia
Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

VOTE YorkShireBLue 
worst role claim i have seen where is a name
i can also role claim if i need to but these games are getting pointless if were all just roleclaiming

ive got a good idea at the start of the next one lets all role claim then the town will win

vote trick pony until there is a name
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 19, 2008, 03:57:02 PM
Vote count
2 – Trick Pony (Wesmancity, Yorkshire)
2 – Yorkshire (MiasG, Trick Pony)

It will take 4 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 19, 2008, 10:21:44 PM
wes and YB we've heard very little from you two today, you've both posted and contributed nothing today so far. We are now in the position of you two looking like the main suspects, from the info I have hippo looks inocent, TP has roleclaimed doctor which no one has contested, Miasgs role claim looks pretty safe even though I still think there is more to his role than we know.

vote YB

At the very least one of you two are mafia so you get my vote.

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 19, 2008, 10:23:16 PM
worst role claim i have seen where is a name
i can also role claim if i need to but these games are getting pointless if were all just roleclaiming

ive got a good idea at the start of the next one lets all role claim then the town will win

vote trick pony until there is a name

i love how you show up just as each lynch happens YB your definatley mafia, and there is nothing more to look into
worst role claim i have seen where is a name
i can also role claim if i need to but these games are getting pointless if were all just roleclaiming

ive got a good idea at the start of the next one lets all role claim then the town will win

vote trick pony until there is a name

That is the worst come back to a role claim ever... nothing more to be said of your YB your definatley mafia, I love how you conveniently start playing just before a lynch occurs and attack the main town roles just after a claim. If you were townie which you are not you wouldnt vote of one of the biggest roles in the game. your a fool and you will get lynched. Lets see if anyone else claims doctor you fool, I am Michelle Dessler the doctor.

There is nothing more to be said about you..  VOTE: yorkshire blue  >:D again... maybe if I make all of the important parts bold you wont miss it in your skimming. The way you play wouldnt surprise me if your the god father mafioso
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 19, 2008, 10:30:19 PM
wes and YB we've heard very little from you two today, you've both posted and contributed nothing today so far. We are now in the position of you two looking like the main suspects, from the info I have hippo looks inocent, TP has roleclaimed doctor which no one has contested, Miasgs role claim looks pretty safe even though I still think there is more to his role than we know.

vote YB

At the very least one of you two are mafia so you get my vote.



yes im beginning to agree with you MZ about MIASG's role he may be mafia and if he is hes done a fantastic job of fooling everyone, though maybe he is just a sh@t town vigilantie :cowboy: who has only done one kill to help the town  >:(

My main suspects are WES and YB, YB conveniently turns up when the lynches occur and wes is always around so i say YB for now.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MASTERZULU on October 19, 2008, 11:42:22 PM
so just hippo left to vote I think.

Can't wait to see the out come of this game.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 20, 2008, 12:31:01 AM
Hippo - I pretty much walked in and overheared TP talking to Footynewb (not playing this game) about who he should save .. they couldn't have known I was around but still I didn't 100% believe it as he could have be "turned" or he was setting me up - I just didn't suspect him of being able to kill therefore a threat.  Since I keep being saved I'm still assuming he's doctor.  And no one else is claiming that.

look I made 2 mistakes and killed axeman who was mafia .. night 1 is as potluck as day 1 .. TCH seemed very dodgy to me - maybe he was just rusty ... 

axeman claimed he was a character that in the show tortures jack - he had to go .. turnes out he was effectivley harmless but non of us were to know that.

afro just didn't participate quite enought to me  but I also didn't believe his claims .. simple I got that wrong too.  It was out of him and YB for me and laser's comments making me save him still weighed on my mind ..

I'm pretty sure mafia can't turn people ..so if I was cult I would have lost my powers like happy did .. wake up people.  If I was evil I would have taken out TP or mikeblue and not afroboy. 

so if people are to be believed ..
MiasG  - Jack - Vig
Hippo - Pres - ? (came back innocent - still outside poss mafia godfather but doubtful)
Trick Pony - :clown: - dressler - doctor
Wesmancity - kim - town
that leaves ..

Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

one is the remaining mafia - the other is a mason with Afro   

Hippo we await your vote ...
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 20, 2008, 08:45:28 AM
wes and YB we've heard very little from you two today, you've both posted and contributed nothing today so far. We are now in the position of you two looking like the main suspects
At the very least one of you two are mafia so you get my vote.

This is what amazes me about this game, I have told you im the daughter of Jack which means im as safe as houses but still you say im possibly evil, what tree did you come from?
Unvote Trick Pony Vote Zulu
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 20, 2008, 11:42:20 AM
Firstly, sorry for my absence over the last couple of days, it was a mate's birthday weekend. Just about recovered now.

so if people are to be believed ..
MiasG  - Jack - Vig
Hippo - Pres - ? (came back innocent - still outside poss mafia godfather but doubtful)
Trick Pony - :clown: - dressler - doctor
Wesmancity - kim - town
that leaves ..

Yorkshire Blue
Masterzulu

one is the remaining mafia - the other is a mason with Afro  

Hippo we await your vote ...

I've said all along that i think Yorkshire's evil. He's done so many dodgy things, and it's just all been capped off by Trick Pony claiming doctor and then him coming straight on and voting for him. How does that make sense, if he's a townie? It doesn't, so i'm gonna go with him.

But, i'm not sure it matters. Unless wes is lying, one of yorkshire or zulu must be the remaining mafia member, or members if there's two left. So it seems like it's just a matter of whether we the town collectively get to finish off the game with this lynch, or MIASG does it tonight. Which really doesn't matter does it? Hopefully the first one though, i want this to be the glory vote  :)

vote Yorkshire Blue
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 20, 2008, 06:21:54 PM
Vote count
4 – YorkshireBlue (MiasG, Trick Pony, Masterzulu, Hippo)
1 – Trick Pony (Yorkshire)
1 – Masterzulu (Wesmancity)

Everyone at CTU is getting extremely paranoid, they've received intel that not all the terrorists are dead yet and so start to turn on each other. A very heated argument erupts and in the commotion a shot is fired which kills YorkshireBlue.

Dead players
StevenRyals: George Mason – Townie – Lynched on day 1
Hammerbro: Ramon Salazar – Cult leader – Shot in the leg and head on night 1
TCH: Bill Buchanan – Townie – Shot through head on night 1
Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard – Shot  in the back on night 1
Sir Hammer: Nina Myers - Mafia henchman - Lynched on day 2
Happy Axeman: Cheng Zhi – Neutral survivor – Shot through head on night 2
Bluestars: Philip Bauer – Mafia henchman – Lynched on day 3
Mikeblue: Tony Almeida – Townie Cop – Shot through back on night 3
Afroboy: Morris O’ Brian – Townie mason Shot through head on night 3
YorkshireBlue: Chloe O’Brian – Townie mason – Lynched on day 4

It is now Night 4. The deadline for night choices and communication is Wednesday at 7pm but if I receive all the night actions before then day 5 will start early. Anybody with night powers can now use them
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 21, 2008, 06:06:00 PM
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A few more hours pass in this very long day and CTU know that they still haven't found all of the terrorists! Everyone in the main control room jumps when they hear a loud scream coming from a back corridor. A woman has found the body of another person that has been shot in the head.

Dead players
StevenRyals: George Mason – Townie – Lynched on day 1
Hammerbro: Ramon Salazar – Cult leader – Shot in the leg and head on night 1
TCH: Bill Buchanan – Townie – Shot through head on night 1
Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard – Shot  in the back on night 1
Sir Hammer: Nina Myers - Mafia henchman - Lynched on day 2
Happy Axeman: Cheng Zhi – Neutral survivor – Shot through head on night 2
Bluestars: Philip Bauer – Mafia henchman – Lynched on day 3
Mikeblue: Tony Almeida – Townie Cop – Shot through back on night 3
Afroboy: Morris O’ Brian – Townie mason Shot through head on night 3
YorkshireBlue: Chloe O’Brian – Townie mason – Lynched on day 4
Masterzulu: Tom Baker – Townie backup cop – Shot through head on night 4

Players still alive (4)
MiasG 
Hippo
Trick Pony
Wesmancity

It is now Day 5. It will take 3 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 21, 2008, 07:04:23 PM
Right you tricky bastards Vote Trick Pony

Hippo i dont trust you either but TP is the one that sticks out for me tried to give us the doc route without naming a caracter which was well sus and Misag you really have not been helping the town have you with your voting. One thing thats really pissing me off is nobody has questioned Misag's claim about him being Jack including me he would or should deff. be in this game so that's why i dont think you could be evil but you voting pattern is shite!, Jack did get kidknapped in one of the series, so maybe your role Misag is to keep that quiet and not let the town find out. Who knows!!!, another sugestion is that in most all 24 series Jack is all ways against or doing things behined CPU's back to get to the bad guys.

Fuck knows now im bloody ill with it all and again the town is dieing quick TP you stink you need to go.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 21, 2008, 07:50:03 PM
Haha, quality. Two nights where the mafia have failed to kill? Leaving their remaining member completely with nowhere to go, other than to try and miraculously lynch the vig or doctor..

Right you tricky bastards Vote Trick Pony

Hippo i dont trust you either but TP is the one that sticks out for me tried to give us the doc route without naming a caracter which was well sus and Misag you really have not been helping the town have you with your voting. One thing thats really pissing me off is nobody has questioned Misag's claim about him being Jack including me he would or should deff. be in this game so that's why i dont think you could be evil but you voting pattern is shite!, Jack did get kidknapped in one of the series, so maybe your role Misag is to keep that quiet and not let the town find out. Who knows!!!, another sugestion is that in most all 24 series Jack is all ways against or doing things behined CPU's back to get to the bad guys.

Fuck knows now im bloody ill with it all and again the town is dieing quick TP you stink you need to go.

Right on cue.

Nothing in that post really makes sense. TP gave a name, and the fact that the mafia failed to kill twice surely makes it pretty blatant that there's a doctor? Unless they've chosen not to kill to mess with people, but why would they do that now? Wouldn't make alot of sense.

MIASG has practically announced who he's going to kill each night and they've died, so he obviously has killing powers. This a 24 themed game, so it's going to have Jack Bauer in it, and he's pretty certain to be good. Alright he's got some things wrong, but i've agreed with all of them to be honest. They all looked dodgy. Unless he's a serial killer, in a pretty major twist, he must be a townie as well.

Surely i would have been the easiest target if you'd actually planned this out? Because although i'm the second main character in the show, i hadn't actually claimed a power role or anything, that has seemingly indisputable evidence to back it up. I could protect someone once in the game, using my secret services. Used it on MIASG, night two. Didn't bother the first time because i assumed we'd have a more permanent protection person who'd obviously choose him to protect after his claim. Then on night one, Laserblue the bodyguard died, and i figured this was probably that protection role, so chose to use it.

Game over now i reckon.

vote wesmancity

The only way you're possibly not the last member of the mafia in my mind, is if Trick Pony has deliberately not killed anyone last night in order to make it look like there actually is a doctor or something. And if he's done that, well, he deserves to win really.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 21, 2008, 10:19:42 PM
Haha, quality. Two nights where the mafia have failed to kill? Leaving their remaining member completely with nowhere to go, other than to try and miraculously lynch the vig or doctor..

Right on cue.

Nothing in that post really makes sense. TP gave a name, and the fact that the mafia failed to kill twice surely makes it pretty blatant that there's a doctor? Unless they've chosen not to kill to mess with people, but why would they do that now? Wouldn't make alot of sense.

MIASG has practically announced who he's going to kill each night and they've died, so he obviously has killing powers. This a 24 themed game, so it's going to have Jack Bauer in it, and he's pretty certain to be good. Alright he's got some things wrong, but i've agreed with all of them to be honest. They all looked dodgy. Unless he's a serial killer, in a pretty major twist, he must be a townie as well.

Surely i would have been the easiest target if you'd actually planned this out? Because although i'm the second main character in the show, i hadn't actually claimed a power role or anything, that has seemingly indisputable evidence to back it up. I could protect someone once in the game, using my secret services. Used it on MIASG, night two. Didn't bother the first time because i assumed we'd have a more permanent protection person who'd obviously choose him to protect after his claim. Then on night one, Laserblue the bodyguard died, and i figured this was probably that protection role, so chose to use it.

Game over now i reckon.

vote wesmancity

The only way you're possibly not the last member of the mafia in my mind, is if Trick Pony has deliberately not killed anyone last night in order to make it look like there actually is a doctor or something. And if he's done that, well, he deserves to win really.



I am KIM, JACK's Daughter you spoon!! i am deff town you are a complete prat if yuo think that im mafia!
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 21, 2008, 10:23:46 PM

The only way you're possibly not the last member of the mafia in my mind, is if Trick Pony has deliberately not killed anyone last night in order to make it look like there actually is a doctor or something. And if he's done that, well, he deserves to win really.

impossible,
as currie said It is now Night 4. The deadline for night choices and communication is Wednesday at 7pm but if I receive all the night actions before then day 5 will start early. Anybody with night powers can now use them

which mean all night a night powers was used
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 21, 2008, 11:52:07 PM
if I'm still alive then someone can save me .. pres - normal townie by admission .. kim - normal by admission .. that leaves TP claim as doctor .. therefore guilty is between hippo and wes ..

impossible, as currie said It is now Night 4. The deadline for night choices and communication is Wednesday at 7pm but if I receive all the night actions before then day 5 will start early. Anybody with night powers can now use them 
which mean all night a night powers was used
exactly .. and wes wants to kill the doctor .. VOTE WESMANCITY ..

TP if wes is good then it must be hippo so if you save me then I'll kill him in the night therefore game over .. unless wes or hippo want to claim some extra powers ..

I killed Zulu last night .. so my track record isn't great  :'(  the reasons are that the other 3 claims are very plausable .. zulu claimed nothing .. simple to me .. to be honest who the fuck is Tom Baker ? Dr Who ?  if he had said that I would have had to look it up as I've never heard of him in 24 let alone a backup cop ..

this game should either now be a townie win (despite me taking 3 out) - not counting axeman as town .. or a draw at worst case ..

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 22, 2008, 09:55:55 AM
impossible,
as currie said It is now Night 4. The deadline for night choices and communication is Wednesday at 7pm but if I receive all the night actions before then day 5 will start early. Anybody with night powers can now use them

which mean all night a night powers was used

Yes, you're right. Sending a PM to currie saying "I'm not going to kill anyone" today is entirely impossible. It's unlikely yes, which is why you have my vote and 99% of my conviction that you're the last mafia. But hardly impossible.

MIASG, all this talk of killing me at night worries me slightly. Not too much, like i said, i'm 99% sure it's Wes. It just makes sense. However, IF it isn't, killing me'll lose the game, guaranteed. I'll modkill myself to prove this, but with these numbers, i'm not sure that'd help.

I'm David Palmer and i've already stated what power i had. It was a one-off protection, which i used on you once the bodyguard died - so night two. There was no mafia kill that night. Not saying Trick Pony is lying for now as we probably just both protected you, and if Wes is mafia like we're all pretty much sure of, then it's all irrelevant. But IF it goes that way, then you're literally never going to hear the end of it from him.

And i'd like to point there's been a vig, 2 masons, a cop, a back up cop, a bodyguard (so, a proper protection role) and a one off protection role - so the equivalent to the bodyguard of the 'back up cop'. If it's not Wes, are you really gonna just go along with being convinced that there's 2 permanent protection types? I claimed Palmer when practically everyone in the game was still alive. Like you know, Palmer's a massive character in 24. How could i possibly risk claiming that if i wasn't? Trick Pony waited until there were about 5 people left, with half of our names known, in order to claim his. Okay Michelle's probably in the game; he's probably telling the truth, with wes reaking of scum. But if he's not. It's not me.

There's hopefully no point to this post, because Wes has to be mafia. If there is, i'm pretty fearful that the mafia are going to win. But to be fair, i'd admire the gameplay if it was a hoax. Not as much as i want the town to win obviously (think it'll be my third victory in the hall of fame  :D), but still. It'd have been pretty genius.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 22, 2008, 10:32:24 AM
I will give you my house if i turn out to be mafia i promise you, what else could i offer! im town and you are going to lose the game if we dont get this right, if you are David Palmer and Misage is Jack then the Mafia is 100% Trick Pony. Fucking hell its so simple you havent got long to change your vote because TP will vote me and we will then loose.

Hippo and Misag rewmember if i get lynched then you have lost it for the town.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 22, 2008, 10:43:58 AM
unvote wes

because as it stands, TP could just come on and win the game, if wes is telling the truth. Argh.. this game's so confusing sometimes.

Not saying i believe you 100%, but i want a bit of time to think. Maybe i've overthought myself with all that TP stuff, but i'm doubting myself now.

If i was thinking about who'd be in the game at the start, i'd say:

Bauer - guaranteed
Palmer - guaranteed
Dessler - probably
Kim - probably

The fake's one of the two probably's. I just don't know which.

Either of you got anything to add that'll make me believe you?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 22, 2008, 11:06:27 AM
unvote wes

because as it stands, TP could just come on and win the game, if wes is telling the truth. Argh.. this game's so confusing sometimes.

Not saying i believe you 100%, but i want a bit of time to think. Maybe i've overthought myself with all that TP stuff, but i'm doubting myself now.

If i was thinking about who'd be in the game at the start, i'd say:

Bauer - guaranteed
Palmer - guaranteed
Dessler - probably
Kim - probably

The fake's one of the two probably's. I just don't know which.

Either of you got anything to add that'll make me believe you?

all i can tell you is that i am deff Kim Bauer who i know is a deff caracter and deff would be in this game. It would be to risky for me to say i am her as she's jacks daughter and a big caracter in the series. Hippo also why would i challange you all at the start of the day, if i was mafia surely i wouldnt do that. If you say who you are and Misag says who he is then it has to be TP im 100% positive on that.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 22, 2008, 12:11:44 PM
but I believe someones been  saving me and that includes last night or themselves last night .. and it's not me .. and neither one of you .. therefore TP is definatley town .. if one of you goes and proves to be town then TP can save me at night - fall on his sword and I'll kill the remaining person and town win .. what's hard to see about that  ???  If we win then even poor TCH who I killed on night 1 and Steven will be winners ...

Wes is after the last remaining way to get to me ..

Hippo your confused as I am due to the fact everyone remaining has plausable characters .. that's why i killed MZ ..

I know TP is down at Surfers for a while with Indy so I just hope he gets access to the net or this will be stalemate for 2 weeks .. doesn't matter if you change your vote hippo because I won't .. draw at best.

 

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 22, 2008, 12:21:18 PM
Am i right in saying Dessler is not a doctor in the series? so why is she a docter in this? that to me makes no sence.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 22, 2008, 12:22:09 PM
Why also has TP not been on surly he knows that this day started.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 22, 2008, 12:49:55 PM
but I believe someones been  saving me and that includes last night or themselves last night ..

Hang on.. what?

- I saved you the first time there was no kill. Trick Pony might have too, but that'd be irrelevant.
- Then the only other night you'd be able to think you'd been protected (no kill), you think they might have protected themselves and not you? How does that work then?

Unless you know this has happened obviously, in which case obviously i'll vote for wes because that makes him 100% mafia, although it seems a bit harsh on him to work it out like this?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 22, 2008, 03:03:40 PM
Im not Mafia i am a townie with no powers.

Now this is the confusing part -

Misag - says hes Jack
Hippo - says hes Palmer
Trip Pony - says hes Dessler
Me - Kim

I would like to think that Jack Bauer would deff be in this game and im sure Misag is Jack so for me you are a safe bet.
     So that leaves Me, Hippo and Trick Pony. Now i am 100% town.
     So that leaves Hippo and Trick Pony.

Hippo and Trick Pony, the reason im going for Trick Pony is that Hippo role claimed very early (was it a clever move) the end of the game will give us the answer. Trick Pony on the other hand said he was the doc and saved people, but who? and like i said before Dessler was not a doc of any sort in the series? does that matter in the mafia games?.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 22, 2008, 06:57:52 PM
Vote count
1 – Trick Pony (Wesmancity)
1 – Wes (MiasG)

It will take 3 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 22, 2008, 11:25:16 PM
Hang on.. what?

- I saved you the first time there was no kill. Trick Pony might have too, but that'd be irrelevant.
- Then the only other night you'd be able to think you'd been protected (no kill), you think they might have protected themselves and not you? How does that work then?

Unless you know this has happened obviously, in which case obviously i'll vote for wes because that makes him 100% mafia, although it seems a bit harsh on him to work it out like this?
I'm not saying you didn't save me or your town .. I'm saying that with what was left how did I keep surviving?  TP role claimed doctor yesterday so I assume since he outed himself he probably saved himself .. logical thought .. Wes thre is no "doctor" in the series .. also they are all cops on the town side except you and the pres .. yet they all weren't "cops".   Mike was taken out because  he could identify people but was I kept alive because I kept killing townies?  doubt it .. I would and still would be the most obvious target becuase A) jack is town and B) he can kill. 

Wes I've stated a few times that TP is down the Gold Coast watching indy .. he's aware that the game is back on but says he can't find internet access yet .. which I think is shit and lazy because it's the gold coast.  I informed him he was still alive and he should resume playing .. also told him who had died and people had already started voting - that's all.

Wes you seem 100% cert it is TP and not hippo .. a fact your stuck on and trying everyting to get him voted for .. as I said I believe someone or some people have protected me .. last night the 2 people up for town killings should have been the 2 that role claimed with the most powers - doc and vigilante .. both survived.  Can only assume since I was responsible for MZ and he was no threat to the mafia that if TP is the doc he's saved himself or me ..  so I'm more inclined (and it still pains me to say) to vote either of you and not TP.  That's the logic of how I see it right now.  To me it's either one of you now non powerful townies.

Wes and Hippo if TP is not town doc can you explain why I'm still alive this far in ? 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 22, 2008, 11:33:10 PM
But didn’t Hippo protect you earlier on in the game? If he did then what means in your eyes it has to be me doesn’t it?

But I am Defiantly 1oo% Town, so in my eyes as you are Jack, Hippo and TP one of them is mafia and as hippo role clamed last TP is my number one suspect.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 22, 2008, 11:34:32 PM

But I am Defiantly 1oo% Town, so in my eyes as you are Jack, Hippo and TP one of them is mafia and as hippo role clamed last TP is my number one suspect.

Sorry i meant to say TP role claimed last
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 22, 2008, 11:59:38 PM
Wes and Hippo if TP is not town doc can you explain why I'm still alive this far in ? 

Like i've said already, i think he probably is, and Wes is the mafia member.

BUT, you can only have been targeted twice in the entire game, at the very most. That's fact. Because we know there's only the mafia and you who can kill. Every other night, the 2 kills have happened, so obviously you weren't targeted. So you didn't "keep surviving", it's happened twice. I protected you the first time, so you'd have survived til last night at least without a doctor in the game. If TP is the last mafia member, choosing not to kill last night would win him the game, because it makes it appear as if there must be a doctor. Like you're assuming now.

Like i said earlier, a permanent protection role was killed on night one in 'the bodyguard'. I've got a non-permanent protection role. This seems to fit with the structure of the game, seeing as there was a cop and a back up. There might be two permanent protection roles and a one off yes, there probably is, but like i'm saying, don't just assume he's telling the truth. If it's not wes and TP has managed to manipulate this for a mafia victory, then you're gonna have him chirping about it to you for all eternity.

As i say, he probably is the doctor. But i swear on absolutely everything that i'm the president. So if wes isn't the mafia member, and you kill me, then you'll have made a mistake. But i'm pretty convinced wes IS the mafia. 100% i'm not.

Maybe i'm thinking too much, but the more i think about it, seems unlikely there'd be two permanent protection roles, when you look at the way the game's set up. I'm probably playing in to Wes' hands, but he might have a point.

Don't get too excited though, wes. I'm still leaning towards voting for you. I'm just being a bit more cautious with it, because it's quite an important day.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 23, 2008, 03:27:31 AM
sure hippo but answer me this  .. who saved a townie (assuming me or doc) last night ? we came back early so all the night actions were done ..

If we vote TP we are playing into wes or your hands
If we vote Wes we are playing into TP or your hands
If we vote you we are playing into TP or Wes' hands

as it stands we all killed YB .. all but 1 townie .. we took a punt got it wrong .. last 4 kills have been town

the only bad guys are ..
Sir Hammer: Nina Myers - Mafia henchman - Lynched on day 2
Happy Axeman: Cheng Zhi – Neutral survivor – Shot through head on night 2
Bluestars: Philip Bauer – Mafia henchman – Lynched on day 3

with hammerbro as cult leader who obviously hit a mafia member in HA.  so we have a godfather and 3 henchmen .. there isn't 2 cells other wise they wouldn't be henchmen. 

hippo I'd like to point back to your post of yesterday ..
Haha, quality. Two nights where the mafia have failed to kill? Leaving their remaining member completely with nowhere to go, other than to try and miraculously lynch the vig or doctor..

Right on cue.

Nothing in that post really makes sense. TP gave a name, and the fact that the mafia failed to kill twice surely makes it pretty blatant that there's a doctor? Unless they've chosen not to kill to mess with people, but why would they do that now? Wouldn't make alot of sense.

MIASG has practically announced who he's going to kill each night and they've died, so he obviously has killing powers. This a 24 themed game, so it's going to have Jack Bauer in it, and he's pretty certain to be good. Alright he's got some things wrong, but i've agreed with all of them to be honest. They all looked dodgy. Unless he's a serial killer, in a pretty major twist, he must be a townie as well.

Surely i would have been the easiest target if you'd actually planned this out? Because although i'm the second main character in the show, i hadn't actually claimed a power role or anything, that has seemingly indisputable evidence to back it up. I could protect someone once in the game, using my secret services. Used it on MIASG, night two. Didn't bother the first time because i assumed we'd have a more permanent protection person who'd obviously choose him to protect after his claim. Then on night one, Laserblue the bodyguard died, and i figured this was probably that protection role, so chose to use it.

Game over now i reckon.

vote wesmancity

The only way you're possibly not the last member of the mafia in my mind, is if Trick Pony has deliberately not killed anyone last night in order to make it look like there actually is a doctor or something. And if he's done that, well, he deserves to win really.
  so you know there is a doctor but now your not so sure ?   what's happened?  as I said I believe there is a doctor ... and so do both of you.  One of you or Wes is the last mafia .. and I'll get you today or tonight and Jack will live on for another series of 24  :2guns: 

Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: Trick Pony on October 23, 2008, 05:06:02 AM
Wes it doesn't matter if you are mafioso or not  :) as i said i am the doctor and i will save miasg tonight.

If you are mafia then game over  :) if not maisg kills Hippo at night an he's dead and we win and all your or hippos mafia buddies are dead  :bleh:



 :bleh:vote Wes  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 23, 2008, 10:15:23 AM
Vote count
1 – Trick Pony (Wesmancity)
1 – Wes (MiasG)

It will take 3 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: hippo on October 23, 2008, 10:27:37 AM
hippo I'd like to point back to your post of yesterday ..  so you know there is a doctor but now your not so sure ?   what's happened?  as I said I believe there is a doctor ... and so do both of you.  One of you or Wes is the last mafia .. and I'll get you today or tonight and Jack will live on for another series of 24  :2guns: 

Read the end of the post you quoted, and you'll get your answer.

sure hippo but answer me this  .. who saved a townie (assuming me or doc) last night ? we came back early so all the night actions were done ..

So you think if TP sent Currie a message saying "i'm killing no one tonight, i've got a plan to make me look like the doctor", we'd wait until the deadline? Why would we?

Like i said, we have: a vig, a cop, a back up cop, a bodyguard, one off protection, 2 masons. Add to that Trick Pony's role and that'd be EIGHT power roles, and THREE protection roles. TWO permanent. We didn't have two permanent cops, we had one and a back up. I'm not sure we have two permanent protectors, i think it makes more sense to have one and a back up. Don't you?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 23, 2008, 12:02:19 PM
am I allowed to post what my character is, as i got told? this is my last chance as you don’t believe me. But I am not Mafia I am Kim Bauer
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 23, 2008, 12:03:16 PM
Vote count
1 – Trick Pony (Wesmancity)
1 – Wes (MiasG)

It will take 3 votes to get a lynch

not that i want to get lyinched but hasnt hippo voted for me aswel?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 23, 2008, 12:22:18 PM
not that i want to get lyinched but hasnt hippo voted for me aswel?
He unvoted you at the bottom of the last page ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 23, 2008, 12:23:52 PM
He unvoted you at the bottom of the last page ;)

ok what about Misag ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: MIASG on October 23, 2008, 01:56:38 PM
TP's voted for WES that 2 .. me and him ..

Hippo I think TP's shown his true colours in this game and the previous one's .. there's no way he'd vote no kill becuase he's all about the action .. he doesn't usually give a toss and he's not that strategical.

All your really showing to me is that your not wanting to get to the night phase.  If he's played us then yes he deserves the win .. but we know he's not that smart .. he's been mason on games and gone off .. he's been town with powers before and killed himself .. he doesn't give a toss about strategy !!! :clown:

I won't change my mind so you can sit here all day and argue at worst it'll be 2-2 draw .. even in the night phase if you take out TP who if he has any brains will save me I'll vote no kill so there's 2 town left in the morning ... Town will win this game .. just vote for WES so we can get on with the next game .. Wes it does't matter if your town or not .. same thing applies to you.  THIS GAME IS DONE BABY. 
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: wesmancity on October 23, 2008, 02:48:31 PM
TP's voted for WES that 2 .. me and him ..

Hippo I think TP's shown his true colours in this game and the previous one's .. there's no way he'd vote no kill becuase he's all about the action .. he doesn't usually give a toss and he's not that strategical.

All your really showing to me is that your not wanting to get to the night phase.  If he's played us then yes he deserves the win .. but we know he's not that smart .. he's been mason on games and gone off .. he's been town with powers before and killed himself .. he doesn't give a toss about strategy !!! :clown:

I won't change my mind so you can sit here all day and argue at worst it'll be 2-2 draw .. even in the night phase if you take out TP who if he has any brains will save me I'll vote no kill so there's 2 town left in the morning ... Town will win this game .. just vote for WES so we can get on with the next game .. Wes it does't matter if your town or not .. same thing applies to you.  THIS GAME IS DONE BABY. 

Ok well if thats the case than this was my role from Curry:

You are Kim Bauer. You are a member of CTU (counter terrorist unit) trying to find and eliminate the terrorists that are plotting attacks on US soil today.

You are a normal townie with no powers
You win when only townies are left alive.

Could you please PM me to confirm that you understand your role and if you don’t understand anything about your role ask me in your PM,

So misag it looks to me like you are letting evil win! bollocks to it i carnt tell you again who i am as is tiresome.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 23, 2008, 05:59:56 PM
It would appear the day is getting to be too much for some people. Kim Bauer just can't take it anymore and doesn't know who to trust so she turns her gun on herself and shoots herself in the head dying instantly

Dead players
StevenRyals: George Mason – Townie – Lynched on day 1
Hammerbro: Ramon Salazar – Cult leader – Shot in the leg and head on night 1
TCH: Bill Buchanan – Townie – Shot through head on night 1
Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard – Shot  in the back on night 1
Sir Hammer: Nina Myers - Mafia henchman - Lynched on day 2
Happy Axeman: Cheng Zhi – Neutral survivor – Shot through head on night 2
Bluestars: Philip Bauer – Mafia henchman – Lynched on day 3
Mikeblue: Tony Almeida – Townie Cop – Shot through back on night 3
Afroboy: Morris O’ Brian – Townie mason Shot through head on night 3
YorkshireBlue: Chloe O’Brian – Townie mason – Lynched on day 4
Masterzulu: Tom Baker – Townie backup cop – Shot through head on night 4
Wesmancity: Kim Bauer - Townie - Modkilled on Day 5

It is now Night 5. The deadline for night choices and communication is Friday at 7pm but if I receive all the night actions before then day 6 will start early. Anybody with night powers can now use them
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 24, 2008, 07:30:44 AM
[size=8]23:59[/size]

In what seems like the longest day in CTU history. Lots of people have died, lots of traitors have been flushed out and lots of odd things have happened but finally the day reaches it's end. The terrorist leader has lasted right the way until the end but eventually CTU put the pieces together (albeit a bit late in the day :D) and figure out who he is! In his last act of terrorist insanity he manages to kill again but Jack Bauer gets his man and shoots Charles Logan, the former president, right through the eye and Jack can finally go to sleep knowing he's done what he needed to do to protect his country!

Dead players
StevenRyals: George Mason – Townie – Lynched on day 1
Hammerbro: Ramon Salazar – Cult leader – Shot in the leg and head on night 1
TCH: Bill Buchanan – Townie – Shot through head on night 1
Laserblue: Chase Edmunds – Townie bodyguard – Shot in the back on night 1
Sir Hammer: Nina Myers - Mafia henchman - Lynched on day 2
Happy Axeman: Cheng Zhi – Neutral survivor – Shot through head on night 2
Bluestars: Philip Bauer – Mafia henchman – Lynched on day 3
Mikeblue: Tony Almeida – Townie Cop – Shot through back on night 3
Afroboy: Morris O’ Brian – Townie mason Shot through head on night 3
YorkshireBlue: Chloe O’Brian – Townie mason – Lynched on day 4
Masterzulu: Tom Baker – Townie backup cop – Shot through head on night 4
Wesmancity: Kim Bauer - Townie - Modkilled on Day 5
Trick Pony: Michelle Dessler - Townie doctor - Shot in the back on night 5
Hippo: Charles Logan - Mafia Godfather - Shot through head on night 5

Surviving players
MiasG: Jack Bauer - Townie vigilante

What happened:

Night 0: Mikeblue investigated Hippo - innocent

Day 1:
StevenRyals lynched

Night 1:
Mikeblue investigated Sir Hammer – guilty
Hammerbro recruited Sir Hammer – Hammerbro died
MiasG killed TCH
Mafia killed Laserblue
Trick Pony saved MiasG

Day 2:
Sir Hammer lynched

Night 2:
Trick Pony saves MiasG
Mikeblue investigates Masterzulu
MiasG kills Happy Axeman
Mafia tries to kill MiasG but he’s protected

Day 3:
Bluestars lynched

Night 3:
Mafia kill Mikeblue
Trick Pony saves MiasG
Mikeblue investigates Afroboy but dies so all results get sent to Masterzulu
MiasG kills Afroboy

Day 4:
Yorkshire lynched

Night 4:
Hippo tries to kill Trick Pony but Trick Pony saved himself
Zulu investigates Wesmancity but dies so doesn’t get the results
MiasG kills Zulu
Trick Pony saves himself

Day 5:
Wesmancity modkilled

Night 5:
MiasG kills Hippo
Hippo kills Trick Pony
Trick Pony protects MiasG

That's that then guys, if you'd like me to post everybody's roles then I can do but I think everybody knows what everybody else has been able to do. Good game, really enjoyed modding it. Mafia did a very good job, nearly winning it but couldn't quite get there. Hippo had an amazing game and MiasG had an absolute shocker :laugh: Look forward to the next time I mod one even if it is in about 5 years time :D

[size=8]GAME OVER - TOWN WIN![/size]
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: hippo on October 24, 2008, 09:20:38 AM
So close. If Trick Pony had been honorable and saved the vig, rather than himself, we'd have got the draw. Good move though, those two protections swung it. Enjoyed that, it was nice being a mafia godfather who was pretty much picking both kills each night  :laugh:.

Good game, Currie. And well played, town.. just about.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: hippo on October 24, 2008, 09:29:57 AM
Night 2:
Trick Pony saves MiasG
Mikeblue investigates Masterzulu
MiasG kills Happy Axeman
Mafia tries to kill MiasG but he’s protected

Day 3:
Bluestars lynched


How devious! Well played, mike. Great move.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: Sir Villain on October 24, 2008, 09:55:29 AM
Yeah, that was a gamewinner once Bluestars just rolled over on it. My Day Two exploits where all in vain, and Stevens alledged "trap" of the Mafia was the worst play I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: hippo on October 24, 2008, 10:52:28 AM
Yeah, that was a gamewinner once Bluestars just rolled over on it. My Day Two exploits where all in vain, and Stevens alledged "trap" of the Mafia was the worst play I have ever seen.

Agreed. Anyone not voting for him looked dodgy, rather than the other way round, 'cause it looks like they suspected something odd was going on. Did anyone even mention it on day two?

David Palmer must be the most ludicrously lucky claim in the history of this game by the way.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on October 24, 2008, 12:55:02 PM
unlucky Hippo you came close
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: MIASG on October 24, 2008, 01:22:11 PM
Agreed. Anyone not voting for him looked dodgy, rather than the other way round, 'cause it looks like they suspected something odd was going on. Did anyone even mention it on day two?

David Palmer must be the most ludicrously lucky claim in the history of this game by the way.
why on god's earth did you pick the President ?   the fact you claimed him and no one counter claimed was the only thing that kept me from thinking you were godfather .. hey just like the series Jack does his own thing a few people get in the way but he comes up with the Win and lives to fight another day ... Wes nice modkill you could have just said vote for me and be done with it .. Hippo unvoting you just made him guilty especially since he knew the day before the had to be a doctor.  Thanks :clown: you actually helped the town to a win.  Town wins doesn't matter how we get there as long as we do! I still think night 1 TCH looked suss .. night 2 I got happy (seems like a year ago).. night 3 well afroboy just didn't seem to be helping IMHO  ;) night 4 everyone had believeable townie roles except zulu (still who the hell was he?) and I got Hippo last night :2guns: If nothing else I kept the game going and exciting  ??? to the end  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: Quig on October 24, 2008, 02:28:33 PM
True to 24 form, Bauer is the only person to survive. Couldn't of been planned better. Also, Hippo claimed to be the president. He was. Charles Logon.
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: stevenryals on October 24, 2008, 02:43:54 PM
I had to do something to get the day moving... and my boss had said something about me being on here too much..  so instead of just mod killing myself i did the only other thing I could think of..  lol

In honesty, I bet the fact that bluestars completely ignored it ended up playing part to mike with his false investigation claim.. maybe not..


Well played to hippo..  you almost pulled it off against a cop who picked out all the mafia, a doctor who protected well and a vig who was your man of the match lol.. 

good game..
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on October 24, 2008, 06:39:04 PM
I had 2 thoughts about this game. I could've either gone down the true 24 route with having shedloads of twists and made it really crazy but I thought it might work a bit better if I just made it a normal mafia game and left everyone to think up the crazy twists themselves (like MiasG being a serial killer). Thought it'd be a better twist to have no twists at all if you get what I mean :D

It could've been very different though had Hammerbro chosen someone else
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: stevenryals on October 24, 2008, 07:58:41 PM
shall we lock this one down?
Title: Re: Mafia 15 - 24 - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
Post by: MIASG on October 25, 2008, 06:07:01 AM
good game .. lock her up