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Title: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: Sir Villain on June 29, 2008, 11:54:23 AM
Since the killings started in this small New Mexico town everyone has been on edge, some of the townsfolk gather and start baying for blood. Soon things will turn violent....there will be blood spilled tonight...

Players Alive
stevenryals
hippo
Trick Pony
HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Footballnewb
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Laserblue
Afroboy
Currieman
Amadjin


Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One



1. Votes must be in bold. If you do not bold your vote, it will not be counted.

2. Please be attentive and unvote, if necessary, before casting a new vote. This is not required, but I?d appreciate it.

3. Lynches will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, any pleas are useless (No Matter how feeble and desperate they sound) and any unvotes will not count. If enough votes have been received and I haven't started the night you can still all post and witter on. This is referred to as Twilght period

4. You may vote: no lynch ? majority votes of this kind are necessary to end the day without a death.
Voting for yourself is just for show and wont actually count.

5. The game is not to be discussed outside of the thread unless your role specifically states that you may do so.

6. Once your death scene has been posted, you?re dead. Stop typing. I will allow a single no-content 'bah' post, but that's it.
(For Example: Manics "Boooo, Axeman is not in my Mafia" post was not allowed, but if he had said "Booooo, you tossers. Mafia will prevail" then that would have been fine)

7. Don?t edit/delete previously submitted posts. Whatever you post, stays on permanent record. This includes editing spelling or grammar mistakes. Just dont do it

8. Don?t quote any PMs from me, or attempt to fake one by me

9. If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. Failure to submit a choice will result in you taking no action.

10. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread or PM me. Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate ? don?t leave us hanging.

11. If a deadline is placed, a lynch will require a majority of the normal majority. For example, if it's 5 to lynch normally, 3 votes will suffice at the deadline. If more than one player has enough votes to be lynched at the deadline in this manner, it will be a no-lynch.

________

Explaining to people whats been going on. After starting the game on saturday, and not much happening I decided to close it down and start it properly from 10am tomorrow. Amadjin and Currieman have been added to the game. The game will start in the day phase tomorrow at 10am so thats when you can start posting.

Good luck and there will be no further changes.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 30, 2008, 01:28:46 AM
well it's 10:30am here so lets start again

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on June 30, 2008, 01:46:23 AM
So has it started?  ?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on June 30, 2008, 02:39:00 AM
Apparently its started twice already, though the first few pages were removed to include another player ...

Well i might note once again that  >:D MIASG said he will be away for a few days, its probably just his MAFIA tactic but we will find out soon enough. 

Also its great to see TCH  O0 in the game, im sure he has a target over his head from modding decisions so hopefully no one uses that against him. 

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 30, 2008, 03:12:15 AM
well the thread was unlocked and it was past 10am so i just assumed we had started.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on June 30, 2008, 03:16:40 AM
Well the first day is always crap to start with so I may as well FOS Stevenryals like every other game, and wait for the rest to have a chance to log on and post.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on June 30, 2008, 09:29:18 AM
i blame miasg cos he has a daft name that doesnt mean anything :P  >:D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on June 30, 2008, 11:22:52 AM
MiasG isn't mafia, he said so himself. I'm gonna FOS Steve Van Halen as he hasn't posted yet :D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on June 30, 2008, 11:56:23 AM
At the moment it will require 10 votes to get a lynch.


If it gets to next Sunday and we still don't have a lynch, then a deadline will be installed
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on June 30, 2008, 01:04:51 PM
miasg will be so happy to see you back Amadjin, with you and Trick Pony on his case i can see his blood pressure going through the roof.


miasg does mean something but something really stupid
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on June 30, 2008, 01:06:57 PM
miasg does mean something but something really stupid

sounds about right....haha

FOS:hippo

to get this game rolling.....
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 30, 2008, 01:23:36 PM
Interesting alliances forming so early??

Trick Pony already after Stevenryals again?

Currieman helping Miasg appear innocent and then points out SVH...hhmmm...

and just to make it official and appear Joke like....here comes

Amadjin throwing more doubt to Miasg....conspiracy anyone?

And TCH throws his hat in the ring....towards hippo...to get the game rollin....well roll on mafia...you might make this day easy after all!



Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on June 30, 2008, 01:26:55 PM
now your just being daft....

when i said to get the game rolling...the game has been started for a while now and hardly anyone has posted.i was just putting some posting wheels in motion lol.

as for blaming miasg,look at my reason....hardly me being accusatory lol

i think your suspicious for blaming me  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on June 30, 2008, 01:28:23 PM
MiasG isn't mafia, he said so himself. I'm gonna FOS Steve Van Halen as he hasn't posted yet :D

I hate you, thats just not nice  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on June 30, 2008, 01:30:50 PM
wait.. Trick Pony...  I'm not supposed to die untill the first night phase... get it right :)  

ok.. so we have 18 players..  more than likely 6 evil..  with big games like this and hammer modding you can almost be assured there is a cult as everyone of his games has had a cult. (so 7 total)

here's the evil list..  so.. just count this game as a win for the town.. and we can start the next one..  

hippo
TCH
Trick Pony
HappyAxeman
Wesmancity
Afroboy
Amadjin

if that turns out to be right I have to get something.. like a free t-shirt or a beer .. or a chicken dinner.. anything.. but i deserve something!!

So... TCH is in this one.. what are the chances he's landed a power role on his first game since modding the last 3 or so games??  flip a coin I guess..


FOS Amadjin ..  to get the game rolling  :) 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on June 30, 2008, 01:36:19 PM
FOS Amadjin ..  to get the game rolling  :) 

Vote:steveryals for sarcasm  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on June 30, 2008, 02:13:10 PM
I hate you, thats just not nice  :bleh:
OK I unFOS Steve Van Halen. Atleast it got things moving a bit :D

The reason I said MiasG wasn't mafia is because when the game "started" in the old thread he said he wasn't :laugh: I am gonna change my mind though now, I think he was trying a bit of reverse psychology so I'll FOS MiasG not that it'll matter as he's away for a couple more days.

I'll also vote Hippo because I remember him being a very hard to read person in one of the old mafia games I played so I reckon he's definetely mafia this time
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on June 30, 2008, 02:16:18 PM
bla bla bla first day is pretty crap.

FOS Ryals,Happy,MIASG adn Trick Pony they always strike me as being evil before we begin!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on June 30, 2008, 02:18:48 PM
The reason I said MiasG wasn't mafia is because when the game "started" in the old thread he said he wasn't :laugh: I am gonna change my mind though now, I think he was trying a bit of reverse psychology so I'll FOS MiasG not that it'll matter as he's away for a couple more days.


amid an accusation of a cover up,you retaliate by trying to remove that suspicious link????
you've made it look worse now currie,innocent or not that was a bad move.... ::)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 30, 2008, 03:04:01 PM
so the first day everyone fosing each other with out anyone looking sus
nothing really standing out yet
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on June 30, 2008, 03:05:21 PM
so the first day everyone fosing each other with out anyone looking sus
nothing really standing out yet

Except you for doing the typical mafia commentry!!!

FOS Yorky
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on June 30, 2008, 03:08:26 PM
Except you for doing the typical mafia commentry!!!

FOS Yorky
typical mafia commentry ???
fos mike blue
for making stuff up to make me look evil
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on June 30, 2008, 03:08:55 PM
amid an accusation of a cover up,you retaliate by trying to remove that suspicious link????
you've made it look worse now currie,innocent or not that was a bad move.... ::)
If I was working with him do you think I'd accuse him like that? You've picked up on a link that doesn't even exist Amadjin, well done! :laugh:

You're just trying to mask your own suspicious nature by trying to pick up on things that other people have said aren't you! I know your game, I'll be watching you
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on June 30, 2008, 03:18:21 PM
If I was working with him do you think I'd accuse him like that? You've picked up on a link that doesn't even exist Amadjin, well done! :laugh:

You've played before, don't try and pretend you're not aware of misdirection tactics. fos currieman

Can someone tell us what happened before it all got deleted? Or was it literally just nothing?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on June 30, 2008, 03:35:31 PM
You've played before, don't try and pretend you're not aware of misdirection tactics. fos currieman

Can someone tell us what happened before it all got deleted? Or was it literally just nothing?

It was literally about 4 posts between StephenRyals and Miasg...real shit
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on June 30, 2008, 03:56:35 PM
nah this is what i picked up on......
Currieman helping Miasg appear innocent and then points out SVH...hhmmm...

then a short time later (less than an hour)

OK I unFOS Steve Van Halen. Atleast it got things moving a bit :D

The reason I said MiasG wasn't mafia is because when the game "started" in the old thread he said he wasn't :laugh: I am gonna change my mind though now, I think he was trying a bit of reverse psychology so I'll FOS MiasG not that it'll matter as he's away for a couple more days.

backtracking amid a hint of mafiosa????
i'll let you decide

I'll be watching you

after this....likewise :D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on June 30, 2008, 04:01:26 PM
It was literally about 4 posts between StephenRyals and Miasg...real shit

I can imagine.  :)

Also its great to see TCH  O0 in the game, im sure he has a target over his head from modding decisions so hopefully no one uses that against him. 

That's an interesting thing to say. You're saying this for one of three reasons:

1) You're being genuine and saying something pointlessly.
2) You're alligned with him, and hoping he's not targeted
3) You're trying to remind some people that they may have a reason to vote for him, because you're evil and want anyone but yourself or your group to be voted for.

Not sure which it is yet. I don't really know what decisions you're talking about though? He's modded all his games fairly i think? Anyways, we're not supposed to talk about previous games are we.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on June 30, 2008, 04:29:43 PM
nah this is what i picked up on......
then a short time later (less than an hour)

backtracking amid a hint of mafiosa????
i'll let you decide

after this....likewise :D
Well I wasn't actually trying to make out that MiasG was innocent, that's what I'm trying to say. I was trying to get things moving by talking about what happened in the other thread as a bit of a laugh and then whoever it was said that I was trying to make MiasG look innocent when all I did was say I think MiasG was innocent as a joke towards him because it was as if he expected me to think he was innocent just because he said so.

Only reason I FOS'd SVH was to get him posting and it worked so mission accomplished and he doesn't need to be FOS'd anymore because the only reason I was suspicious of him was because he hadn't posted but then again lots of other people hadn't either, I just saw his name and decided to FOS him.

Anything else you want to "pick up" on and twist into a way of making you look helpful? FOS Amadjin for trying to hide his own suspiciousness by accusing me
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on June 30, 2008, 04:42:04 PM
Vote Currieman the reason for this is because you are trying to camoflage (spelling) yourself by taking you sig of and your avatar, this is a good tactic to be unnoticable mafia trick.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on June 30, 2008, 04:44:32 PM
unvote:steveryals
Vote:mophead
for being quiet.if he decides to post i'll remove it. either that or someone slips up (again  :laugh:)

for trying to hide his own suspiciousness by accusing me

so because i accused you i'm mafia by default?  ??? i decided you were backtracking because within 3 hours of you saying miasg isnt mafia,bluestars points out there could be a possible link between you and miasg.and then in your next post you 'distance' yourself from him b turning on him. im not turning anything,im just writing what i see.oh it's so welcoming to be back  :D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on June 30, 2008, 04:46:11 PM
Vote Currieman the reason for this is because you are trying to camoflage (spelling) yourself by taking you sig of and your avatar, this is a good tactic to be unnoticable mafia trick.

a bit of a lame reason lol,i mean iv changed my sig and avatar today lol. i got bored with the one i'd had since i joined  O0
fos wesmancity
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on June 30, 2008, 05:46:49 PM
a bit of a lame reason lol,i mean iv changed my sig and avatar today lol. i got bored with the one i'd had since i joined  O0
fos wesmancity

fos Amadjin for a lame reason for fosing me  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 30, 2008, 05:49:09 PM
Vote Currieman the reason for this is because you are trying to camoflage (spelling) yourself by taking you sig of and your avatar, this is a good tactic to be unnoticable mafia trick.

um...like...what? Sorry wes not following what you are on about here....fos wes for posting something completely random...not to mention if something is unnocticable as mafia are you saying only mafia would be able to notice only therefore meaning since you noticed it therefore by your own admission you'd be mafia?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on June 30, 2008, 05:58:24 PM
um...like...what? Sorry wes not following what you are on about here....fos wes for posting something completely random...not to mention if something is unnocticable as mafia are you saying only mafia would be able to notice only therefore meaning since you noticed it therefore by your own admission you'd be mafia?

FOS Bluestars for the simple reason that she is due to be evil by the laws o fpercentage games played.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on June 30, 2008, 06:34:12 PM
um...like...what? Sorry wes not following what you are on about here....fos wes for posting something completely random...not to mention if something is unnocticable as mafia are you saying only mafia would be able to notice only therefore meaning since you noticed it therefore by your own admission you'd be mafia?

THEN bluestars my dear you need to fos everyone whos posted somthing completely random!........well go on then dont just pick on me, there are others.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on June 30, 2008, 06:37:52 PM
FOS Bluestars for the simple reason that she is due to be evil by the laws o fpercentage games played.

That's not fair .... you stole my thunder... thief ...that was my opening line... bluestars is so goody goody :laugh:

oh well .... Fos currieman .... if you havent played mafia with him before ... be warned ... watch him .....he is not to be taken lightly.

nice to see you back currieman ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on June 30, 2008, 07:41:46 PM
iv been in a fair few with currie to know what he's like,but then again the same can be said for me  :laugh: lol

Vote Currieman the reason for this is because you are trying to camoflage (spelling) yourself by taking you sig of and your avatar, this is a good tactic to be unnoticable mafia trick.

and you know this is a good trick why?? didnt think of it yourself???? huh huh   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :-X :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on June 30, 2008, 07:58:39 PM
That's not fair .... you stole my thunder... thief ...that was my opening line... bluestars is so goody goody :laugh:

oh well .... Fos currieman .... if you havent played mafia with him before ... be warned ... watch him .....he is not to be taken lightly.

nice to see you back currieman ;)

Possible sour grapes from my past roles??? eh???

New game...and I'm just playing as I always have spotting what I see as suspicious....and wes's post was bizzare to me and yes Wes I could fos everyone else...but yours was for some reason more suspect to me....it's Day one, but all you have on this Day is to pick up on what people blabber on about...and most mafia blab just to go unnoticed.



Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on June 30, 2008, 08:40:02 PM
i think you should replace all the people who dont post in the next 2 days....its boring when not everyone posts.....

fos:anyone who hasnt posted yet
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on June 30, 2008, 09:02:03 PM
and you know this is a good trick why?? didnt think of it yourself???? huh huh 

You may have posted this in jest..  but it's almost an admission of guilt..
wes says "you're sus for trying to hid your posts by removing your sig & chging your avatar" and you say that..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on June 30, 2008, 09:23:28 PM
You may have posted this in jest..  but it's almost an admission of guilt..
wes says "you're sus for trying to hid your posts by removing your sig & chging your avatar" and you say that..

sorry it maybe me being a bit slow but I'm lost here ???

can someone please explain ;D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on June 30, 2008, 09:35:32 PM
did you read what wes said? 
you know what.. if you dont get it.. you just dont get it..  it's day one and we're pissing up a tree anyway...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on June 30, 2008, 09:39:41 PM
My thoughts so far....

wait.. Trick Pony...  I'm not supposed to die untill the first night phase... get it right :) 

ok.. so we have 18 players..  more than likely 6 evil..  with big games like this and hammer modding you can almost be assured there is a cult as everyone of his games has had a cult. (so 7 total)

here's the evil list..  so.. just count this game as a win for the town.. and we can start the next one.. 

hippo
TCH
Trick Pony
HappyAxeman
Wesmancity
Afroboy
Amadjin

if that turns out to be right I have to get something.. like a free t-shirt or a beer .. or a chicken dinner.. anything.. but i deserve something!!

So... TCH is in this one.. what are the chances he's landed a power role on his first game since modding the last 3 or so games??  flip a coin I guess..


FOS Amadjin ..  to get the game rolling  :) 
This post stinks of steven ryals mafia style to me, he does this sort of post when mafia most the time.

i think you should replace all the people who dont post in the next 2 days....its boring when not everyone posts.....

fos:anyone who hasnt posted yet
I wouldn't fos the non-posters yet, it's still first day and some won't have had a chance to post yet.

Also rule 11 about the lynching is very different to any other game I played before.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on June 30, 2008, 10:11:38 PM
I wouldn't fos the non-posters yet, it's still first day and some won't have had a chance to post yet.

So afroboy's in the mafia with somebody who hasn't yet posted then..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on June 30, 2008, 11:28:44 PM
I think im going to go with the flow and see what happens.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on June 30, 2008, 11:39:53 PM
I think im going to go with the flow and see what happens.

sounds like your mafia again mophead, thats 3 in a row for you now.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 01, 2008, 12:41:28 AM
That's an interesting thing to say. You're saying this for one of three reasons:

1) You're being genuine and saying something pointlessly.
2) You're alligned with him, and hoping he's not targeted
3) You're trying to remind some people that they may have a reason to vote for him, because you're evil and want anyone but yourself or your group to be voted for.

Not sure which it is yet. I don't really know what decisions you're talking about though? He's modded all his games fairly i think? Anyways, we're not supposed to talk about previous games are we.

I'd say mostly one as i'm his boss, unless it's 3

Good to see Currieman and Amadjin back as they post and make the game more active and fun.

Where is Hammersbro he was active in the last game and now nothing !!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 01, 2008, 12:50:17 AM
i blame miasg cos he has a daft name that doesnt mean anything :P  >:D

Its something about being a "sex god"  :blush: :laugh: :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 01, 2008, 12:53:15 AM
wait.. Trick Pony...  I'm not supposed to die untill the first night phase... get it right :)  


But Steve I always at FOS you as the first day action  :bleh: now who hasent posted yet ...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 01, 2008, 01:06:35 AM
I can imagine.  :)

That's an interesting thing to say. You're saying this for one of three reasons:

1) You're being genuine and saying something pointlessly.
2) You're alligned with him, and hoping he's not targeted
3) You're trying to remind some people that they may have a reason to vote for him, because you're evil and want anyone but yourself or your group to be voted for.

Not sure which it is yet. I don't really know what decisions you're talking about though? He's modded all his games fairly i think? Anyways, we're not supposed to talk about previous games are we.

Nah it was actually just trying to get things moving while you were sleeping hippo, I just cant wait to see what TCH has to say in this game, I have seen him sitting there with his "modding face" during the apst few games though I dont believe I have played a game with him in it ... so im looking forward to seeig how he plays 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 01:18:12 AM
Its something about being a "sex god"  :blush: :laugh: :bleh:

to transexual dwarfs and the like... :bleh: :laugh: :tease: oh wait i thought you said icon  :hmmm: :wall: :angel:

You may have posted this in jest..  but it's almost an admission of guilt..
wes says "you're sus for trying to hid your posts by removing your sig & chging your avatar" and you say that..

noooooooo,the second question was a half arsed parody of the first question.
and yes we are pissing up a tree....
but then....
But Steve I always at FOS you as the first day action  :bleh: now who hasent posted yet ...
possible mafia? i mean he could be trying to keep up appearances as deflection as it were........

[/quote]
sounds like your mafia again mophead, thats 3 in a row for you now.

and to justify that????? please lol,could be important for future reference/decisions
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 01, 2008, 01:20:49 AM
um...like...what? Sorry wes not following what you are on about here....fos wes for posting something completely random...not to mention if something is unnocticable as mafia are you saying only mafia would be able to notice only therefore meaning since you noticed it therefore by your own admission you'd be mafia?
Although I dont like to admit it I would have to agree with you Bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 01, 2008, 01:25:45 AM
holy crap, I'm up at 5am and here i am... soz for not posting so far just got in from my first Date in a long long time... lol surely no one can begrudge me that, got no time for it, but i need a bit of love in my life. lol
will catch up when i have a spare hour tomo to read whats transpired so far.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 01, 2008, 01:31:26 AM
to transexual dwarfs and the like... :bleh: :laugh: :tease: oh wait i thought you said icon  :hmmm: :wall: :angel:

noooooooo,the second question was a half arsed parody of the first question.
and yes we are pissing up a tree....
but then....possible mafia? i mean he could be trying to keep up appearances as deflection as it were........


and to justify that????? please lol,could be important for future reference/decisions


Mophead has been mafia in the past 2 games, the way he commented short and brief seems like a mafia playing style... which is obviously why I said 3 in a row. Have a look over the past few games Amadjin the moderators summed up the entire games in the last few posts which should help you.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 01:33:59 AM
Mophead has been mafia in the past 2 games, the way he commented short and brief seems like a mafia playing style... which is obviously why I said 3 in a row. Have a look over the past few games Amadjin the moderators summed up the entire games in the last few posts which should help you.

thanks matey  :D cleared a few things up
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 01, 2008, 01:54:43 AM
had a quick scan through, so a quick response before i go bed...

@Trickpony, Amadjin always comes across as an evil git, and then for some reason he usualy is. lol
if we had to stick a vote on someone from the word go, I would go amadjin everytime. lol

@steven I getting fed up with you, you deserve to die early every game for naming me as evil right from the word go every game. Its no wonder i'm always a target for peeps and generaly die early meaning the town lose someone who has a knack of picking out peeps. Its people like you which makes people want to kill me. After putting the time and effort in to find mafia(which you will notice I usually do), only for people like you to influence people to ruin the game for me. fair enough though, I have been Serial killer twice on the trot.  :laugh:
and to be honest, early on in this game and I do tend to agree with Afroboy that your post listing your crap guess work at evil, smacks of that 'Mafia Style' you use.

What was deleted beforehand? I have Admin privaledges which lets me read what has been deleted, before i delete it for good... I can ALWAYS see what peeps have deleted. And i got to say, i actualy read the posts before they were deleted, and there was a post by currieman which had me thinking he could of slipped up. I'm a believer that at least 1 mafia will always make a mistake early on... its just a case of picking up on it.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 01, 2008, 02:22:57 AM
well if you got in at 5am then hopefully the date went well  ;)

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 01, 2008, 05:33:53 AM
Still no Footballnewb, I know hes read the thread but hasnt posted ...  :-\
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 01, 2008, 08:50:08 AM
Only suspicious of Trick Pony and Mophead at the moment really. Never played with either before so probably just because I don't know their style yet. Will wait to see a few more posts from either before making any judgement.

Got a feeling StevenRyals and Trick Pony may be working together as well. Will see where that leads.

Need FootballNewb and HammerBro to post as well. Only people yet to post. SVH could do with making a proper appearance soon as well. People that sometimes try to go unnoticed by pretending to be away or not have read it can slip under the radar of the first day and use their night action before people realise what's going on.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 01, 2008, 10:07:00 AM
No really, I hate you


Currieman and Amadjin return to the site after a lengthy absence (of course I returned around christmas time) and one of them is still considered evil straight away?! I like it.

You all know my thoughts on the first day. As far as Im concerned you are all suspicious, especially Currieman for being ginger
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 01, 2008, 10:10:02 AM
Only kidding Currieman  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 10:45:10 AM
well if you got in at 5am then hopefully the date went well  ;)



Do you go in for coffee????
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 10:46:30 AM
No really, I hate you


Currieman and Amadjin return to the site after a lengthy absence (of course I returned around christmas time) and one of them is still considered evil straight away?! I like it.

You all know my thoughts on the first day. As far as Im concerned you are all suspicious, especially Currieman for being ginger

I didn't know this.

Thanks for pointing out that valuable peice of information Steve.  :D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 10:55:12 AM
No really, I hate you


Currieman and Amadjin return to the site after a lengthy absence (of course I returned around christmas time) and one of them is still considered evil straight away?! I like it.
somethings never change eh... :D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 01, 2008, 10:59:44 AM
I didn't know this.

Thanks for pointing out that valuable peice of information Steve.  :D

That im suspicious of everyone or that Currieman is ginger?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 11:05:16 AM
That im suspicious of everyone or that Currieman is ginger?

That Curirieman is ginger  ;D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 11:06:57 AM
That Curirieman is ginger  ;D
That im suspicious of everyone or that Currieman is ginger?

unless you both start getting back on topic your gonna start people thinking your providing banter to distract
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 11:15:00 AM
unless you both start getting back on topic your gonna start people thinking your providing banter to distract

MMMmmmm trying a little to hard to appear pro town here me thinks.....

Mental note made and in actual fact FOS AMADJIN
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 11:17:22 AM
unless you both start getting back on topic your gonna start people thinking your providing banter to distract

Also I feel it is a valuable piece of information that all should be aware of and not passed off to easily  :bleh:  ::)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 01, 2008, 11:30:06 AM
@steven I getting fed up with you, you deserve to die early every game for naming me as evil right from the word go every game. Its no wonder i'm always a target for peeps and generaly die early meaning the town lose someone who has a knack of picking out peeps. Its people like you which makes people want to kill me. After putting the time and effort in to find mafia(which you will notice I usually do), only for people like you to influence people to ruin the game for me. fair enough though, I have been Serial killer twice on the trot.  :laugh:
and to be honest, early on in this game and I do tend to agree with Afroboy that your post listing your crap guess work at evil, smacks of that 'Mafia Style' you use.

Hmm, does anyone else read this like someone having a little stress that he's been rumbled as being evil very early on AGAIN?

And then he comes out with a bit of this "tit for tat" suspicion that mafia people seem very fond of using at the end. Dodgy.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 11:58:29 AM
Hmm, does anyone else read this like someone having a little stress that he's been rumbled as being evil very early on AGAIN?

And then he comes out with a bit of this "tit for tat" suspicion that mafia people seem very fond of using at the end. Dodgy.

Mafia commentry by Hippo........
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 01, 2008, 12:04:24 PM
Mafia commentry by Hippo........

Are you joking? I pointed out somebody looking suspicious. Or do you not want people to do that?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 12:36:00 PM
Are you joking? I pointed out somebody looking suspicious. Or do you not want people to do that?

MMmmmm....bite bite, snarf snarf, scratch scratch....rustled your feathers have I oh EVIL one!  >:D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 01, 2008, 12:37:24 PM
miasg is a ginger too, does that help ?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 12:40:08 PM
miasg is a ginger too, does that help ?

Very much so!!!  :o

He is always evil so I wonder if this gingerness is an evil gene...... ???

FOS Currieman and MIASG and all other fellow gingers!  >:(

Good work TCH think we are onto something here  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 12:49:30 PM
TCH has hid his identity on the board.

Got something to hide Tommy???

FOS TCH
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 01, 2008, 01:06:38 PM
i thought we discussed this in the graveyard last game as something to do
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 01, 2008, 01:13:30 PM
i thought we discussed this in the graveyard last game as something to do

I have suggested for everyone to set their status to "hidden" for this game
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 01:13:51 PM
i thought we discussed this in the graveyard last game as something to do

Yeah but you carried it out.

Very evil  >:D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 01:14:29 PM
I have suggested for everyone to set their status to "hidden" for this game

How you do?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 01, 2008, 01:18:25 PM
under account related settings in your profile
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 01, 2008, 01:19:52 PM
I'm not really here!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 01, 2008, 01:32:38 PM
Vote Mikeblue

too much joking around to be town me thinks..  every post is some kind of deflection.. be it about gingers or joking about this or that..

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 01, 2008, 01:44:45 PM
I hate coming to a mafia game and finding loads of pages to read through. And i can bet that as soon as i click the post button, at least 1 person will of posted while i was typing but here goes anyway.

MikeBlue stands out to me. Even before Ryals picked up on him as well. His attack on Hippo was abit graspy (it is now a word) as he made a point about Hippo fighting back against a mafia claim. Who the hell isnt gonna denie being mafia. Townies and mafia alike dont want to be thought of as mafia. Also, trying to get people to lynch someone based on the colour of their hair is quite verging on racism. And we all know racists are evil. So i'm actually gonna chuck a Vote: Mikeblue.

OOC: I'm going away tomorrow and won't be back to mon/tue. I should be able to check back on tonight or maybe tomorrow morning before i go.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 01:50:31 PM
i dont think we should be too hasty in voting for mikeblue,we cant vote for people who seem to have it in for gingers.the same way i cant vote for someone just because he supports liverpool (currie),has ginger hair (currie) and is in the closet (guess who  :blowingbubbles:  :laugh:)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 01, 2008, 01:53:55 PM
I'm a bit suspicious of Mikeblue as well after that. Last couple of pages are nearly filled with just his posts. Obviously posting is a good thing but some of the stuff he posted just seemed a bit random and didn't really have any relevance. I'll FOS Mikeblue for now because I wanna see his reaction first just incase some mafia jump on the bandwagon that seems to be forming and possibly kill a perfectly innocent townie.

Odd from Hammerbro as well in that he's only had 1 post and immediately voted and is also going away for a couple of days tomorrow so he won't be able to change his vote. Maybe mafia hoping to get a bandwagon forming on Mikeblue? Hard to say but an FOS Hammerbro is needed for that I think. By the way Hammerbro isn't RayVonChong under a different name is it? :D

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 01:58:20 PM
By the way Hammerbro isn't RayVonChong under a different name is it? :D

i was thinking that earlier on actually....lol

and in light of my recent posts,im starting to get suspicious of people agreeing with me straightaway as though to appear innocent.
if your mafia keep it up,i can spot you better then  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 01, 2008, 02:06:02 PM
So i'm actually gonna chuck a Vote: Mikeblue.

I certainly do not appreciate you coming on directly after me and voting for mikeblue..  firstly it make me look sus.. secondly it makes people think we may have some link which is not the case..  thirdly it takes my vote and turns it into the start of a 'bandwaggon' in peoples eyes..

well done hammerbro..   ??? :-X   great thinking.. 

I'm going to leave my vote on mike because he's most sus..

i'm sure he has a good role.. be it evil or good..  i'm sure of it..  i just need to decide whether it's a good or a bad role.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on July 01, 2008, 02:15:32 PM
Actually think you are too harsh on Hammersbro....Mikeb lue isn't doing anyone any favors with this posting a one bit here and there and not much depth...but he is always an eager player so hard to read whether he's bored at work or evil trying to deflect attention....not sure which way I think now.

I still say Wes is another few word poster and yet throws alot of accusasions around and I still think he said he was mafia...slipup maybe? Not sure...but it is Day one....VOTE WES....and it still smells of mafia slip up to me.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 01, 2008, 02:28:59 PM
I certainly do not appreciate you coming on directly after me and voting for mikeblue..  firstly it make me look sus.. secondly it makes people think we may have some link which is not the case..  thirdly it takes my vote and turns it into the start of a 'bandwaggon' in peoples eyes..

well done hammerbro..   ??? :-X   great thinking.. 

I'm going to leave my vote on mike because he's most sus..

i'm sure he has a good role.. be it evil or good..  i'm sure of it..  i just need to decide whether it's a good or a bad role.. 
Extremely odd post in my eyes.

Firstly, Hammerbro voting for the same person as you doesn't necessarily make you suspicious straight away, he could just agree with you. 2nd, you are trying to sound too innocent from your 2nd and 3rd points. If you 2 had a link (both mafia for instance) then you'd be incredibly stupid to both vote for the same person within a few posts of each other unless you were trying some form of reverse psychology but we all know you're not that smart :D Also, even if it did turn into a bandwagon on Mikeblue, people aren't gonna blame you are they. You were the first person to vote for him, not the last so you have nothing to do with the bandwagon and are made to look innocent.

The last part of your post is weird as well. What the hell does all that mean? You think he's suspicious, OK but you think he may have an evil or good role, yeah so does everyone :laugh:

Just struck me as an odd post and I am FOSing so many people that it's become pointless because I think so many people are suspicious at the moment so am gonna Vote StevenRyals because of his really weird post
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 01, 2008, 02:36:15 PM
Interesting little flurry of activity. Mikeblue is suspicious, but not anywhere near the extent that a few people have played it. He is at least trying to get reactions from people, even if he's doing it in a misguided non-helpful kind of way - although i guess it could have be seen as pretty helpful in the way it's been reacted to.

It's a tad annoying that hammerbro has done one post, and then had to leave, because i'd be uncomfortable accusing somebody who couldn't defend themselves. But what he said and did is suspicious - just come on once, sense the way the suspicion is heading, and go along with the masses.

But, this following post is ridiculously suspicious.

I certainly do not appreciate you coming on directly after me and voting for mikeblue..  firstly it make me look sus.. secondly it makes people think we may have some link which is not the case..  thirdly it takes my vote and turns it into the start of a 'bandwaggon' in peoples eyes..

well done hammerbro..   ??? :-X   great thinking.. 

The last bit. Does it not make you think that he's in a mafia with hammerbro, and is pretty confused and disappointed that hammerbro, with his very first post, has linked themselves together and made them both look dodgy? Certainly reads like that to me. He hasn't even fos'ed hammerbro for doing something he points out himself as being suspicious, and steven always throws those around when he's innocent.

By the way Hammerbro isn't RayVonChong under a different name is it? :D

It's quigmaster under a different name.

And you posted while i did.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 01, 2008, 02:53:00 PM
You think he's suspicious, OK but you think he may have an evil or good role, yeah so does everyone :laugh:

you have some kind of comprehension problem..  he's not a normal townie..  he either mafia, or he's got a special role with the town, i'm leaning more towards mafia right now..

Bluestars, in the last 3 games you've played, you've been town..  each time you have waited until the end of the day after heavy research before posting a vote..  you have now posted 3 or 4 times and now you are already voting..  you are playing a very different game.. 

you my dear, are mafia and I'm very sure of it.. 


and Hippo.. you say:
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It's a tad annoying that hammerbro has done one post, and then had to leave, because i'd be uncomfortable accusing somebody who couldn't defend themselves. But what he said and did is suspicious

yets you continue to say:

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He hasn't even fos'ed hammerbro for doing something he points out himself as being suspicious

I simply stated my annoyance with the fact that he's jumped on my back with a vote for mike after not playing a part in the game thus far, making my vote turn from a simple "pull mike out of the dark and draw a reaction" vote, into a bandwaggon starter..  which i'm not happy about one bit..

you said yourself it was suspicious.. but you didnt FOS him..  it's pointless.. his vote will stay on Mikeblue through the end of the week, and he'll float through the first day unnoticed because of it, end of.. 

currie & amadjin.. go back and look at the previous games, or just search bluestars posts in them on her profile..  you'll notice that she doesnt do anything near this kind of early voting..  she's very calculated, posts statistics of votes, fos's etc etc, and waits until late in a lynch before posting a vote.. dont think she's ever been the first to vote for anyone..  she's playing a very different game from the previous where she has NEVER been mafia before.. 

Unvote Mikeblue

Vote bluestarsneyes


FOS Hippo: for trying to call me out for not FOS'ing hammerbro when he's sus, while he does the same exact thing in his post..  which is just poor in my opinion..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 03:22:15 PM
currie & amadjin.. go back and look at the previous games, or just search bluestars posts in them on her profile..  you'll notice that she doesnt do anything near this kind of early voting..  she's very calculated, posts statistics of votes, fos's etc etc, and waits until late in a lynch before posting a vote.. dont think she's ever been the first to vote for anyone..  she's playing a very different game from the previous where she has NEVER been mafia before.. 

Unvote Mikeblue

Vote bluestarsneyes


FOS Hippo: for trying to call me out for not FOS'ing hammerbro when he's sus, while he does the same exact thing in his post..  which is just poor in my opinion..

so let me get this straight???
you think mikeblue is sus and someone agrees with you.so you feel the need to defend yourself,change tactics and then try to encourage me and currie to 'bandwaggon' against bluestars??
unvote who ever it was before,i cant remember now,i think it was a non-poster
vote steveryals

you've crossed the suspicious line now,and unless someone does something more suspicious,my vote will stay with you
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 01, 2008, 03:27:58 PM

Bluestars, in the last 3 games you've played, you've been town..  each time you have waited until the end of the day after heavy research before posting a vote..  you have now posted 3 or 4 times and now you are already voting..  you are playing a very different game.. 
Remember never to think about the last game. Just because someone plays without posting very much and always picking up on small things in one game doesn't mean that they can't just change and post loads and just say a load of shit in the next one.

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I simply stated my annoyance with the fact that he's jumped on my back with a vote for mike after not playing a part in the game thus far, making my vote turn from a simple "pull mike out of the dark and draw a reaction" vote, into a bandwaggon starter..  which i'm not happy about one bit..
Still don't see the significance of Hammerbro (I meant quigmaster, forgot Rayvon wasn't Hammer's brother :D) voting for someone after you and why you got so worked up about it. It takes a lot more than 2 people to get a lynch at this stage and you're not gonna try starting a bandwagon so early because it'll make you look suspicious so I doubt Hammerbro would've done that if he is mafia as that would be an unbelievably stupid thing to do. Why are you annoyed about Hammerbro voting for Mikeblue when you said he was suspicious yourself and voted for him. Surely someone else voting for him is a good thing and as you were the first to vote it makes it look normal and nothing like you trying to form a bandwagon.

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you said yourself it was suspicious.. but you didnt FOS him..  it's pointless.. his vote will stay on Mikeblue through the end of the week, and he'll float through the first day unnoticed because of it, end of..
You don't have to FOS someone just because you think they're suspicious. There are lots of reasons not to. My main one recently is because so many people in this game are looking suspicious.

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currie & amadjin.. go back and look at the previous games, or just search bluestars posts in them on her profile..  you'll notice that she doesnt do anything near this kind of early voting..  she's very calculated, posts statistics of votes, fos's etc etc, and waits until late in a lynch before posting a vote.. dont think she's ever been the first to vote for anyone..  she's playing a very different game from the previous where she has NEVER been mafia before.. 
Little bit confused by this. Out of the blue you just ask me and Amadjin to go back and look at the previous games. This could be a form of bandwagon forming in itself as you just want us to agree with you and vote for her. Kind of strange how you didn't just say she looks a bit suspicious and decided you wanted Amadjin and I on your side.

My vote stands
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 01, 2008, 03:38:35 PM
I simply stated my annoyance with the fact that he's jumped on my back with a vote for mike after not playing a part in the game thus far, making my vote turn from a simple "pull mike out of the dark and draw a reaction" vote, into a bandwaggon starter..  which i'm not happy about one bit..

That's not really true is it? You sarcastically said well done and that it was great thinking to link you both together, and used the smileys entitled "huh" and "lips sealed". Now, i don't think it's entirely unreasonable to be suspicious about this. In fact, i'm very suspicious about it. And if anyone else had done it, you would be too.

FOS Hippo: for trying to call me out for not FOS'ing hammerbro when he's sus, while he does the same exact thing in his post..  which is just poor in my opinion..

In a post where you talk heavily about playing styles (i'll get on that in a sec), you surely can accept the fact that you always throw fos' and votes around in the early stages? And you can surely accept the irony in fos'ing me, for saying you usually throw your fos' around? I spend my time trying to get reactions from people, to work them out, and as i know i'm not going to get a reaction from hammerbro (which i stated), i didn't bother. Instead choosing to focus on you, as you were the other half in all of this, to get my reaction. Which i think i did.

Your post about bluestars makes sense though. She usually commentates up to the latter stages of the day, which me, you and everyone else paying attention find suspicious, and then produces a massive dossier of evidence against everyone that she's been compiling. Find it very odd that this has changed. And especially with a vote for somebody who, from memory, hasn't been about much so far (though i might be wrong about that). Easy target? Although i guess there's no reason to assume she isn't doing this as well as actually posting this time around?

Hmm, 2 posts while i was typing this. Both make pretty relevant points about yourself, but both could also be a defense of her. I'll read them properly then comment (this post's long enough as it is).
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 03:42:01 PM
I hate you, thats just not nice  :bleh:

No really, I hate you


Currieman and Amadjin return to the site after a lengthy absence (of course I returned around christmas time) and one of them is still considered evil straight away?! I like it.

You all know my thoughts on the first day. As far as Im concerned you are all suspicious, especially Currieman for being ginger

Only kidding Currieman  ;)

That im suspicious of everyone or that Currieman is ginger?

i feel steve is falling under the radar slightly,this everything he has posted so far,anything of great importance????????

(on rolls the tumblelweed...)

no i thought not,rather suspicious in itself

fos:stevevanhalen

anyone else want to post while im trying to???  :bleh: referring to hippo here lol
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 01, 2008, 04:05:35 PM
I still say Wes is another few word poster and yet throws alot of accusasions around and I still think he said he was mafia...slipup maybe? Not sure...but it is Day one....VOTE WES....and it still smells of mafia slip up to me.

What does that mean???, Where did i say that i was mafia??. You say "I still think he said he was mafia". well bluestars i either said it or i didnt? which one is it?

Please answer??

P.S. i voted for currieman and you are now trying to protect him by trying to divert my attention to you, nice try but im sticking with currieman and you will will not succeed.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 01, 2008, 04:13:40 PM
I have always had a suspicion of Mikeblue for his short pointless kidding posts.

VOTE MIKEBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 04:17:04 PM
I have always had a suspicion of Mikeblue for his short pointless kidding posts.

VOTE MIKEBLUE

and your short voting posts arent???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 01, 2008, 04:20:05 PM
I have always had a suspicion of Mikeblue for his short pointless kidding posts.

VOTE MIKEBLUE

Thanks for being so helpful mophead..  great points you make there.. I hope other people can pick up on your detective-like finds here!!!  really.!!


and to Amadjin & currieman.. the reason I pointed you out is because you didnt play the last game..  everyone else did I believe..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 01, 2008, 04:28:06 PM
Remember never to think about the last game. Just because someone plays without posting very much and always picking up on small things in one game doesn't mean that they can't just change and post loads and just say a load of shit in the next one.

Thing is though mister currie..  when someone has been town 3 times straight, and played the same 3 times straight.. and then comes out in a new game and straightaway changes their tactic to a much more volitile style like this, voting early, and accusing often.. it wreaks of a new exciting role doesn't it..

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Still don't see the significance of Hammerbro (I meant quigmaster, forgot Rayvon wasn't Hammer's brother ) voting for someone after you and why you got so worked up about it

you are still talking about me and hammerbro, when the point of my post was to put pressure on mike... which he has not slipped 100% under the radar due the the comment i made reguarding my disgust at hammerbro for riding my coat tail..  do you understand my disgust now?


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Little bit confused by this. Out of the blue you just ask me and Amadjin to go back and look at the previous games


as I said, you didnt play the last game, so I wanted you to be able to notice the drastic difference in her gameplay.. everyone else should already note this..

Quote from: amadjin
so let me get this straight???
you think mikeblue is sus and someone agrees with you.so you feel the need to defend yourself,change tactics and then try to encourage me and currie to 'bandwaggon' against bluestars??

the tactic was dead once hammerbro jumped on my back..  at that point the discussion was going to be about hammerbro & myself rather than putting the pressure on mikeblue as I was intending..  and as I've said (3 times now), i requested you and currieman to read the last 3 games in which bluestars was a townie each and every time...  look at her calculated methods.. and compare it to this game..  if you agree great.. if you think it's no big deal and she's just had way too much caffeine today.. then fine..  but my request was for you to gain the information that the rest of us already have, because we played the previous games and know how she's changed overnight..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 04:34:18 PM
i have 3 suspicious people on my list at the moment

steveryals - seemingly condemning bandwaggons in one breath and trying to make one in the next
steve van halen - almost flying under the radar
mophead - he's in depth analysis in his last post says it all....

anyone else want to do anything mafia-esque?  :bleh:


and as if to throw more fuel to the fire........

but my request was for you to gain the information that the rest of us already have, because we played the previous games and know how she's changed overnight..

you say we have played the previous games with bluestars and know hows she's changed yet you are the only one who has claimed this?? considering your claim,no-one seems to be backing it up. im not saying your wrong but i have been in a couple of games with bluestars myself.i havent been gone that long  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 01, 2008, 04:40:51 PM
you say we have played the previous games with bluestars and know hows she's changed yet you are the only one who has claimed this?? considering your claim,no-one seems to be backing it up. im not saying your wrong but i have been in a couple of games with bluestars myself.i havent been gone that long  :laugh:

nobody has to back it up..  we (as in everyone but you and currieman) HAVE played in the last few games.. and hippo has acknowledged this fact as well if you were reading anyone elses posts..

instead of waiting for people to do your detective work for you, why dont you go back and read for yourself instead of hoping to get a majority consensus on this fact..  dont be lazy..  do it.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 01, 2008, 04:45:17 PM
we need to get these people involved in the game..

TCH - first game i think.. been kinda quiet..
Miasg - out until tomorrow i think..
HappyAxeman - 2 posts, but he has a decent excuse.. he's either still sleeping or his hands are too sore to type today..  ;)
mophead - has a few post.. but a total word count of 7
SVH - fat left a floatah'..  floating through day 1 yet again..
Hammerbro - a waste so far.. and wont be back for a bit apparently
Footballnewb - ?? wheres he been?
Yorkshireblue - and this one.. come on yorkshire
Laserblue - laser & afro sitting back a bit on day one.. need to get more involved..
Afroboy -


day one is going just as usual.. a few people stabbing at each other while others sit back and laugh at us..

FOS Yorkshireblue & Footballnob
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 01, 2008, 04:50:24 PM
Not quite gone yet. Leaving tomorrow at 12. Will prob be on a little tomorrow morning.

I'd just like to say that I was going to vote mikeblue before i had reach stevens vote for him. It didnt change my vote as i agreed with the reasoning and had already decided to. On the flip side, Steven is overreacted quite abit as just because i have come to the same conclusion as you doesnt mean im trying to just agree to try and bandwagon someone. By that logic, anytime someone has more than 1 vote on them we should get them instead. I'm not convinced your mafia as such but i am gonna fos: Stevenryals. I'm gonna keep my vote on mb since he still sticks out above the rest at the moment.

2 new replies
The last 2 posts by steven make me glad i fos'ed him.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 01, 2008, 05:01:29 PM
the tactic was dead once hammerbro jumped on my back..  at that point the discussion was going to be about hammerbro & myself rather than putting the pressure on mikeblue as I was intending.. 

Well, it wasn't going to be. I think everyone understood why you voted for him, and hammerbro's vote only added to the pressure on him, which would have got the reaction. You yourself then made it all about the two of you, by posting a paranoid rant about how you looked suspicious, were linked, and were trying to get a bandwagon going. That was the suspicious bit.




Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 01, 2008, 05:51:51 PM
Man, extremely confusing stuff going on. Steven is trying too much wacky stuff and I just can't understand the justifications that you have for everything. They sound just as if you're trying to cover up a mistake that you have made rather than actually having a point. Like Hippo said, if you wanted to put pressure on Mike then having another vote on him would've been fine but instead you were annoyed with Hammerbro for voting for him as well :laugh:

I will look back on the past few games and see if what you say about Bluestars is true but I don't think it'll be enough to condemn her straight off anyway just because, as I say, she may be innocent and playing differently just trying to mix it up. On the flip side she could be evil. I shall do the research and then wait and see.

Do definitely need to get the other people that haven't been posting much involved in this now though.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 01, 2008, 06:45:10 PM
I will look back on the past few games and see if what you say about Bluestars is true but I don't think it'll be enough to condemn her straight off anyway just because, as I say, she may be innocent and playing differently just trying to mix it up. On the flip side she could be evil. I shall do the research and then wait and see.

Good, at least someone is listening
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 01, 2008, 07:02:06 PM
Since it seems I've missed the opportunity to place the pressure on Mikeblue like he deserves..  I'll give it one more shot.. here's mikeblues contribution..

Except you for doing the typical mafia commentry!!!
FOS Yorky
off topic.. useless
Do you go in for coffee????
referring to ginger hair
I didn't know this.

Thanks for pointing out that valuable peice of information Steve.  :D
again
That Curirieman is ginger  ;D
in reference to amadjin telling them to get back on topic..
MMMmmmm trying a little to hard to appear pro town here me thinks.....

Mental note made and in actual fact FOS AMADJIN
again referenceing gingerness..
Also I feel it is a valuable piece of information that all should be aware of and not passed off to easily  :bleh:  ::)
again with the commentary comment..
Mafia commentry by Hippo........
after hippos response to his ridiculous claim that hippo was commentary-ing when he was just pointing something out..
MMmmmm....bite bite, snarf snarf, scratch scratch....rustled your feathers have I oh EVIL one!  >:D
hey.. another ginger  joke..
Very much so!!!  :o

He is always evil so I wonder if this gingerness is an evil gene...... ???

FOS Currieman and MIASG and all other fellow gingers!  >:(

Good work TCH think we are onto something here  ;)

I'm tired of quoting..

he then goes on to say TCH is suspicious because he hid his "online status" on his profile...  then asks TCH how to do it.. now Mikeblue himself is hidden.. 

after my vote.. he's not said a thing..

i hate to unvote bluestars.. because i'm 99% sure she's evil..  and once everyone gets on and recognizes her change in play, i think she will get some votes..  but for now unvote bluestarsneyes  VOTE MIKEBLUE cause of all that useless crap above..  it's as to show he's playing, but not helping the town at all.. all this uselss banter is on my last red nerve..


Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 07:23:44 PM
well by my calculations we have at least around a week to sniff out the scum so lets just get patient and see what comes to the forefront

Good, at least someone is listening

part of your evil ploy to oust the only lady... :bleh: just cos you dont want to be first haha,i think if everyone started posting it would be a cracking game like the games of old when billyman and hagler were about,  :bomb: oh the good ol days. you think monksie would enjoy playing a game of this  ??? just a thought

whilst replying steve contributed some more


i hate to unvote bluestars.. because i'm 99% sure she's evil..  and once everyone gets on and recognizes her change in play, i think she will get some votes..  but for now unvote bluestarsneyes  VOTE MIKEBLUE cause of all that useless crap above..  it's as to show he's playing, but not helping the town at all.. all this uselss banter is on my last red nerve..


id hate for you to be a footy manager...your changing tactics so often....lol
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 01, 2008, 07:49:41 PM
me been quiet i only posted yesterday theres just been alot of crap posted from mikeblue so it looks like im not voting
so these are looking sus
mikeblue-alot of banter and pointless crap making it look like hes posted alot but asnt really helped at all
mophead- plays the same game everytime can never sus him out also short posts with nothing in them and no real reason for voting mikeblue
bluestars been quiet but bluestars as started quiet in previous games
footnballnewbie where is he

mopheads vote on mikeblue looks sus maybe he thought mikeblue was a goner so voted him to take away attention from himself

fos currieman having a distracting avatar  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 01, 2008, 08:02:27 PM
yorkshire, is that your only list of suspicions?  or do you have an ace up your sleeve?  i get the feeling you're hiding something..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 01, 2008, 08:07:47 PM
theres no one else looking sus though
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 01, 2008, 08:13:39 PM
every time I have an idea someone takes it so I'm just gonna post a suspision list.

Suspision list

Stevenryals - I think he is trying to put everyon the back foot and answer to him rather than ask questions of him, also tried to make a big deal out of nothing with the whole hammerbro mikeblue stuff.
Trick Pony - his posting I find suspisious all the time so I'm not sure but just because I find it suspisious a lot doesn't mean I can rule him out.
Mophead - short sharp s*** shoveller
Mikeblue - his jokey posting and way of laughing off suspisions has warranted him some deserved votes and fos's and he is also on my list as well as many others.
Bluestars - For me is either normal townie or mafia, I am sure she isn't any other role at the mo, this is cos of the completely different style, it's not like a minor change, it's a complete new tactic. And even though I am very sus of Steve I do back-up what he said about her
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 01, 2008, 08:38:00 PM
These lists offer us nothing new. You've both just summarised what other people have said, and repeated. No new insights, no new thoughts, no real contribution. People certainly aren't gonna feel pressured by anything either of you have said.

I want to hear more from bluestars and mikeblue in response to these accusations.

vote FootballNewb

According to one of Trick Pony or TCH, he has read the thread, and hasn't contributed. If he's lying low deliberately, then that's suspicious, if he just couldn't be bothered to say anything, then maybe this will encourage him.

I know there's other people not posting, but they have at least given legitimate reasons.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 01, 2008, 09:14:36 PM
Well I read through but the only link I can find is mikeblue and bluestars. At the start of the day mikeblue makes the point that by law of averages, bluestars must beguilty sometime. Laserblue then agrees with him but then bluestars goes after laser, why not mike? this just adds to the string of reasons. Also maybe mikeblue was trying to distance himself from her or/and trying to get rid of that excuse early so it doesn't have as much effect later on.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 09:54:47 PM
every time I have an idea someone takes it so I'm just gonna post a suspision list.
Bluestars - For me is either normal townie or mafia

brilliant deductions,fairplay

its funny how people crawl out the woodwork once provoked....

im watching you in particular  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 01, 2008, 10:02:59 PM
Sorry not been on before today been busy at work all day then played footie.... won 2-1  ;D
I couldn't get on site after game cause my internet is running slow ... so I kicked afro of his he he

footie newb is not posting again he did the same thing last game but was town.... I'm not saying that makes him town again..... people who only start posting toward the end of the day/game make me angry  >:(

tp is looking suspicious again .. but then he always makes himself look bad.

likewise mophead he's trying to stay quiet for now & that maybe because he knows his posts will give him away

I'm sure mike blue was around on the graveyard when it was suggested by TCH we should hide our identities so why did he use it as a way of accusing him ??? Mikeblue has made several statements of this kind about a few people.... is he just trying to be funny or is it suspicious...   ???

I thought stevenryals looked pretty suspect at first maybe he still is but he is right about bluestars style of playing not that that alone makes her mafia.

will be back later tonight.








Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 01, 2008, 10:07:58 PM
now steveryals you told me to go back and look up some evidence on what you were talking about.but upon reading back you said you said you believed bluestars was evil from the beginning of the xmen game.and it turned out you were evil and bluestars wasnt....

and it started much in the same manner as this game

so by my conclusions you've slipped up by pointing us in the direction of some evidence that actually damages you rather than backs you up

written during laserblues post
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 02, 2008, 12:37:46 AM
any chance of a vote count Hammer ? I'm lost with all the votes and unvotes.

Well i must say what annoy's me the most is lack of posting or contributing to the game and as yet the person who doesn't have a reason or hasn't provided one is footynewb so until he joins in i will


vote Footynewb
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 02, 2008, 12:57:46 AM
Thought I better come on & post again tonight as I said I would....& probably won't be back on till after work tomorrow..

the last post was a bit brief in the sense that I didn't really explain my reasons for the points I made about peeps.. but I was on afros pc & he wanted it back to do his homework..

I think that on day one comparing how people are playing compared to the other games is valid up to a point..

With no previous voting having happened then It's one of the only things to go off & If someone has always played one way & them dramatically switches to another .. then I think you have to look at that ...

Why I said that steve looked suspect to me at the start was that his first few posts reminded me of a recent game he played & that was the only game I have played with him that he has been mafia....

 later he goes after mike & then bluestars big time ..... bluestars is  playing a different game than her normal style & mikes first post does look like a bad attempt to distance himself from her

& mike  ....the post were he says about tch hiding his ID was just rubbish as I'm sure he was on the graveyard board when tch came up with the idea in reply to me moaning that the game was ruined by people watching who was on line. I'm not going to quote  all his posts but there are a few similar ... but are they just mikes way of testing people ? ..
I was mafia last game & could not help to notice his posts often make him look evil without him actually being evil ....

I don't agree that mophead always posts the same way whichever side he is on
he may have realised he gave himself away as evil last game through some of his posts & is trying not to give himself away this time

whatever.. I don't think mophead, steve & bluestars are all evil it would be a bit of a coincidence

& I don't think steve & bluestars can both be evil cause of the way steve had a go at bluestars?

Tp is another one that makes himself look evil through his own posts, I was in the mafia with him in the last game & if he is evil then the more he posts the deeper the hole..... it's just a matter of time..

back on tomorrow  ...  ... hope we get a post from footynewb

sh*t some else has beat me to posting ... & I can't be bothered altering anything now

just looked at the post & yes it p*ss*ss me of too


Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 02, 2008, 01:46:53 AM
so............

steveryals thinks bluestars and mikeblue are mafia???
some people agree???
and some people think steveryals is trying to dodge the bullet???
and some think we should vote the lack of posting guy/gal???
have we got a replacement for the LOPG???
saves a pointless lynch if he/she truly isnt being active,but then on the other hand he/she's allegedly been spotted online
i'd give him/her 24 hours to post something or hammer should replace him/her cos he/she's starting to detract from suspicious active people
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 02, 2008, 01:49:43 AM
sorry LOPG has a name - footballnewb
get posting dude/dudette,anybody personally know them to go n give them a good kick up the  :censored:?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 02, 2008, 02:21:06 AM
sorry LOPG has a name - footballnewb
get posting dude/dudette,anybody personally know them to go n give them a good kick up the  :censored:?

I will "personally" go over to his desk and give FBN a good old kick now  :laugh:

He was reading the thread last night so he has no excuse not to have already posted  >:( 

I will be away next week, heading to Melbourne for a week off work and I probably wont bother trying to read all the posts while im down there, so if im still alive when I get back I will catch up "Go the townies FTW" !!! I leave on the following Monday 7th so after that I wont be back until the Monday after.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 02, 2008, 02:29:01 AM
"Go the townies FTW" !!!

it always makes me laugh when people do this,i just once would to see the mafia say 'go mafia' out the blue and see if we notice lol,don't you think it would be well funny?
i mean theres all of us accusing each other,and then wham 'go mafia!' out of nowhere,would save us a job,and give us a laugh
any volunteers??? scum???  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 02, 2008, 10:28:53 AM
it always makes me laugh when people do this,i just once would to see the mafia say 'go mafia' out the blue and see if we notice lol,don't you think it would be well funny?
i mean theres all of us accusing each other,and then wham 'go mafia!' out of nowhere,would save us a job,and give us a laugh
any volunteers??? scum???  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

That's a blatant mafia slip-up if ever i saw one. You're clearly trying to do exactly what you were suggesting would be funny to do, in your own post, to see if people do notice. Twice. And it wasn't anywhere near as subtle as i think you thought it was going to be.

unvote newb cos i guess he's going to get replaced if he doesn't join in soon..
vote amadjin for being mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 02, 2008, 11:27:37 AM
any chance of a vote count Hammer ? I'm lost with all the votes and unvotes.

Well i must say what annoy's me the most is lack of posting or contributing to the game and as yet the person who doesn't have a reason or hasn't provided one is footynewb so until he joins in i will

vote Footynewb
Be careful when voting for someone just because they aren't posting. They could be mafia and avoiding posting so they don't attract attention but they could also be a townie and have a reason for not posting in which case we would just be killing an innocent townie so I hope a bandwagon doesn't start on him just because of that. If Footynewb doesn't post in the next 24 hours then yeah, replacement would be good.

That's a blatant mafia slip-up if ever i saw one. You're clearly trying to do exactly what you were suggesting would be funny to do, in your own post, to see if people do notice. Twice. And it wasn't anywhere near as subtle as i think you thought it was going to be.

unvote newb cos i guess he's going to get replaced if he doesn't join in soon..
vote amadjin for being mafia.
Have to say I picked up on that as well. Amadjin trying a little move that would've looked ace if it'd had worked and he'd been alive at the end of the game but it wasn't that subtle.

Glad to see more people are posting now though, I'm still sticking with my vote on Steven though, definitely looks the most suspicious to me at the moment with perhaps Mikeblue after him for his crazy posting antics which contribute nothing to the game
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 02, 2008, 12:16:07 PM
UNVOTE Currieman

Quote from: bluestarsneyes on Yesterday at 02:15:32 PM
I still say Wes is another few word poster and yet throws alot of accusasions around and I still think he said he was mafia...slipup maybe? Not sure...but it is Day one....VOTE WES....and it still smells of mafia slip up to me.


What does that mean???, Where did i say that i was mafia??. You say "I still think he said he was mafia". well bluestars i either said it or i didnt? which one is it?

Please answer??

P.S. i voted for currieman and you are now trying to protect him by trying to divert my attention to you, nice try but im sticking with currieman and you will will not succeed.



Bluestars its been 24 hrs and you havent answerd me, why?? im waiting.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 02, 2008, 12:37:46 PM
Slipping under the radar? No I just started working full time for the summer. Passed all my exams and so far I am the only student on my course to be accepted onto year 3, not good!

Had to skim read 4 pages of posts so bear with me here.

We all know what Steveryals is like and he is quite observant. Due to his style he normally ends up being taken out by the mafia early on and I dont think Bluestars has defended his accusations. This could be her attempt to avoid bringing attention to herself and to avoid potential slip ups giving herself away. Steve isnt normally this focused on one person on the first day, even if he is mafia.

Im not sure if that was Amadjin slipping up, more like him just being daft.

Im going to save my vote for the time being
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 02, 2008, 01:00:13 PM
UNVOTE Currieman

Quote from: bluestarsneyes on Yesterday at 02:15:32 PM
I still say Wes is another few word poster and yet throws alot of accusasions around and I still think he said he was mafia...slipup maybe? Not sure...but it is Day one....VOTE WES....and it still smells of mafia slip up to me.


What does that mean???, Where did i say that i was mafia??. You say "I still think he said he was mafia". well bluestars i either said it or i didnt? which one is it?

Please answer??

P.S. i voted for currieman and you are now trying to protect him by trying to divert my attention to you, nice try but im sticking with currieman and you will will not succeed.



Bluestars its been 24 hrs and you havent answerd me, why?? im waiting.


Sorry ... can you explain this post Wes .... i don't understand ....... at the top you unvote currieman & at the end you say you are sticking with him .... it's all very confusing?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 02, 2008, 01:24:26 PM
so by my conclusions you've slipped up by pointing us in the direction of some evidence that actually damages you rather than backs you up

Oh, so my role in the last game has anything to do with this game?  Brilliant!!

My point is.. I've played the last 3 or 4 games with her, she's been very calculated before voting..  she's never jumped out and voted early on, she's never been abrasive.. she waits until near the deadline and post a flurry of evidence, including statistics compiled throughout the day..  if you cant notice that from reading the past games, then that makes you extremely sus in my opinion..  shame on you for focusing on my role in a past game, it sure seems like you're deflecting attention from bluestars..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 02, 2008, 01:29:06 PM

Sorry ... can you explain this post Wes .... i don't understand ....... at the top you unvote currieman & at the end you say you are sticking with him .... it's all very confusing?

Yes the slanted writing like this was said a few days ago, and i copied it. it was somthing bluestars said to me re: me saying i was mafia and i asked he where i said it, Then i added to it.

I will do make it more understanderble for you..... hang on
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 02, 2008, 01:32:07 PM
it always makes me laugh when people do this,i just once would to see the mafia say 'go mafia' out the blue and see if we notice lol,don't you think it would be well funny?
i mean theres all of us accusing each other,and then wham 'go mafia!' out of nowhere,would save us a job,and give us a laugh
any volunteers??? scum???  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I find this post to be almost a slap in the face..   we're not stupid Amadjin..  this is you saying you are maifa and I know it..  nobody will act on it.. you will say you were joking..  but after you are lynched and in the graveyard, you will be bragging at how you told everyone you were mafia and even said "go mafia" twice in one post..  you disgust me!!! 

or it could be a joke..  but I'm pretty sure i'll have to deal with your ego in the graveyard thread.. and i'm not all that pleased about it..  lol
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 02, 2008, 01:33:30 PM
That's a blatant mafia slip-up if ever i saw one. You're clearly trying to do exactly what you were suggesting would be funny to do, in your own post, to see if people do notice. Twice. And it wasn't anywhere near as subtle as i think you thought it was going to be.

oh.. ok.. so, i didnt get this far before I replied..  looks like people will pick up on it..

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one

your vote is coming amadjin..  i just want to read the rest of the posts before I change my vote or not..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 02, 2008, 01:34:59 PM
For laser and anybody else who didnt understand my post.

Actually think you are too harsh on Hammersbro....Mikeb lue isn't doing anyone any favors with this posting a one bit here and there and not much depth...but he is always an eager player so hard to read whether he's bored at work or evil trying to deflect attention....not sure which way I think now.

I still say Wes is another few word poster and yet throws alot of accusasions around and I still think he said he was mafia...slipup maybe? Not sure...but it is Day one....VOTE WES....and it still smells of mafia slip up to me.

What does that mean???, Where did i say that i was mafia??. You say "I still think he said he was mafia". well bluestars i either said it or i didnt? which one is it?

Please answer??

P.S. i voted for currieman and you are now trying to protect him by trying to divert my attention to you, nice try but im sticking with currieman and you will will not succeed.

UNVOTE Currieman
Bluestars its been 24 hrs and you havent answerd me, why?? im waiting.

Does this clear things up for you.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on July 02, 2008, 01:38:13 PM
Alright, going to read and catch up, seems Steven thinks I'm evil and my game play has changed...well is
DAY ONE! I don't normally have much to say until the game goes on a bit and honestly I haven't posted much because at the time there wasn't much to say. Steven always thinks I'm evil....so I'm not even going to bother trying to convince him.

Wes...you originally posted something suspicious making a statement that someone's game play was unnocticable mafia tactic....I simply asked you if it was only noticeable by mafia...and you noticed it...did that make you mafia! Instead of answering me you start questioning why I would find that supsicious???

So I have answered you and DID PREVIOUSLY when I originally posted it...so you can deflect the attention all you want...it was kind of tongue and cheek really calling you on your choice of words....and noticing that you were doing this one line posting again. So...take it for what you want....anyone can read what I wrote.

I have payroll today and getting ready to go out of town so I've not had time to catch up....I'll read and see what I think.

Previous games I did have some time on my hands to disect every little detail, I'm busy this game and kind of exhausted...lol...I love the game but to be that detailed takes time, not had it so far in this game...I will try to participate as much...but honestly my game plan has changed a bit because of time factor.

Seems to be an alright excuse for every other player but me! We have hardly ANY posts from other players and to focus on me is everyone's right...I get it it's Day one...but I really am just busy.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 02, 2008, 01:45:34 PM
Have to say I picked up on that as well. Amadjin trying a little move that would've looked ace if it'd had worked and he'd been alive at the end of the game but it wasn't that subtle.

And another agrees about amadjin's bizarre mafia claim post..  

but I'm certain now that bluestars is the godfather of the mafia.. due to the way amadjin has come to her rescue..  either that or she has a very special power that the mafia do not need to lose on night one..  knowing hammer, he's thrown some goodies in this game for us to be suprised .

he's not getting my vote until day two..  of course we all know i wont make it to day two..  so I may as well take out the godfather while I'm here..

keeping my vote on bluestars and not moving it..  

nice post there bluestars..  (insert voice of Joy from my name is earl)steven always thinks I'm evil, so I m not going to bother trying to convince him(/end joy voice from my name is earl)...  that's a good way to let it slide isnt it.. 

you are evil dear..  and not very good at it I must say...

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Previous games I did have some time on my hands to disect every little detail, I'm busy this game and kind of exhausted

strange..  all of your posts are long.. you have read 7 pages of posts to get to this point in just 2 1/2 days..  if you're so busy how have you worked all this into your rigorous schedule?


Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 02, 2008, 01:48:41 PM
I simply asked you if it was only noticeable by mafia...and you noticed it...did that make you mafia! Instead of answering me you start questioning why I would find that supsicious???


NO................. .. YOU SAID

I still say Wes is another few word poster and yet throws alot of accusasions around and I still think he said he was mafia...slipup maybe? Not sure...but it is Day one....VOTE WES....and it still smells of mafia slip up to me.

quote from bluestars "I think he said"......hmmmmmmmmm. sod it Vote Bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 02, 2008, 01:53:01 PM
That's a blatant mafia slip-up if ever i saw one. You're clearly trying to do exactly what you were suggesting would be funny to do, in your own post, to see if people do notice. Twice. And it wasn't anywhere near as subtle as i think you thought it was going to be.

unvote newb cos i guess he's going to get replaced if he doesn't join in soon..
vote amadjin for being mafia.

dont be such a tit....look up humour in the dictionary.
its only a game and i wanted to have a laugh.
i meant that as its written,not as a subliminal.
 i might come across as stupid but no way am i that stupid.
but yes i do agree with you in some respect,on hindsight i can see where my post can twisted


Oh, so my role in the last game has anything to do with this game?  Brilliant!!

My point is.. I've played the last 3 or 4 games with her, she's been very calculated before voting..  she's never jumped out and voted early on, she's never been abrasive.. she waits until near the deadline and post a flurry of evidence, including statistics compiled throughout the day..  if you cant notice that from reading the past games, then that makes you extremely sus in my opinion..  shame on you for focusing on my role in a past game , it sure seems like you're deflecting attention from bluestars..

hippocrit!
you told me to go searching back through the games for bluestars,and while i was doing just whatyoutold me toi came across the xmen game,as it happens in that game you were hounding bluestarsneyes just like you are now.and in that game you ended up being mafia.
your vote is coming amadjin..  i just want to read the rest of the posts before I change my vote or not..

rallying support for a bandwagon....ummm.. .what does smell of again....oh yeah hippocrisy,and the evidence???
I certainly do not appreciate you coming on directly after me and voting for mikeblue..  firstly it make me look sus.. secondly it makes people think we may have some link which is not the case..  thirdly it takes my vote and turns it into the start of a 'bandwaggon' in peoples eyes..


in answer to you claiming im in cohorts with bluestars,i havent defended her,i just provoked you into defending yourself and now im part of her gang in doing so??????
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 02, 2008, 01:59:43 PM
not a hipocrit mate, i told you to go back and look at her STYLE OF PLAY.

and youve come on and made yourself very sus in a timely manner to take pressure off bluestars..


It's like you were thinking, "what can I do to help her, without seeming like I'm helping her? AH, I can say this and just say it was a joke, but it should hold off the vultures for the rest of the day surely.."

not going to work bud..  my vote's still for bluestars..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 02, 2008, 02:11:00 PM
Vote Currieman the reason for this is because you are trying to camoflage (spelling) yourself by taking you sig of and your avatar, this is a good tactic to be unnoticable mafia trick.

That's the thing bluestars is on about you i think, Wes. Or seems to be, i'm a bit confused by the argument you two seem to be having to be honest. Bluestars is very suspicious, but for the reasons steven is stating, not the ones you are.

I think she interpreted this as you saying it's a tactic that is unnoticeable to people who aren't mafia, whereas i think you were saying it's a mafia trick to remain anonymous (for the record, changing their avatar was an awful reason to vote for currieman.. i must have missed that before). And then this her saying you said you were mafia, i don't think was supposed to be taken quite so literally.

On to real reasons though. She definitely has changed her gameplay, and that's highly suspicious. Fair enough if she's busy, but she had enough time to post that last long rant. Could be a genuine reason - those statistics must take ages to sort through (hammer can't even be bothered to do a current vote count, let alone compile statistics on everything anybody has done  ;)) - but then, could be a cover up. Maybe she's done something already that would be a clue and doesnt want it getting out? Or her mafia colleagues may have? Which'd probably be this defense of her by amadjin.

And despite his denials, i'm pretty certain i'm right about what amadjin was doing with that jokey post, so my vote's staying there. He seems to be defending bluestars pretty strongly too.. i understand him finding stevenryals suspicious, and maybe he's just unwilling to believe anything he says because of that, but it seems to be a bit bizarre to be protecting someone so much on day one, unless you know what they are.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on July 02, 2008, 02:30:02 PM
Vote Currieman the reason for this is because you are trying to camoflage (spelling) yourself by taking you sig of and your avatar, this is a good tactic to be unnoticable mafia trick.

Look...I'm working on catching up and rereading...for God's sake....at least I'm participating....so far I'm looking and here we have a huge game all these players...I say I'm busy but STILL find time to post and yet it's on and on about me and honestly I don't get the focus...I'm am participating and said I was rereading this morning!

For the record here is Wes's CRAP post! I'm done talking about it....I think it was pretty obvious mafia crap...but think for yourselves...I'm posting the count in a few when I'm finished digging through all these pages of posting.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 02, 2008, 02:36:43 PM
Look...I'm working on catching up and rereading...for God's sake....at least I'm participating....so far I'm looking and here we have a huge game all these players...I say I'm busy but STILL find time to post and yet it's on and on about me and honestly I don't get the focus...I'm am participating and said I was rereading this morning!

For the record here is Wes's CRAP post! I'm done talking about it....I think it was pretty obvious mafia crap...but think for yourselves...I'm posting the count in a few when I'm finished digging through all these pages of posting.

bluestarsneyes, ok rant over!. i will move on.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 02, 2008, 02:43:57 PM
it always makes me laugh when people do this,i just once would to see the mafia say 'go mafia' out the blue and see if we notice lol,don't you think it would be well funny?
i mean theres all of us accusing each other,and then wham 'go mafia!' out of nowhere,would save us a job,and give us a laugh
any volunteers??? scum???  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I have re-read this post a couple of times now, Amadjin and I just can't help but think that you are mafia now. It's just the way that you have said it. Really smacks of "How cool would it be if I could post this and get away with it".

My suspicion about Steven has waned a bit now, he seems to just be trying to get reactions from people and it's working to a certain extent so I'm gonna unvote StevenRyals and vote Amadjin.

Gonna go back, read through the last couple of games and see if I can pick up on anything that'll help me for this game ni terms of people's posting styles or tactics etc. and then will probably make another post soon.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on July 02, 2008, 02:50:12 PM
Look...I am busy and this is all I can post for now...but to focus on me and to allow some players that haven't even POSTED in the game to slide by seems very untown like...I'm feeling targeted by mafia and unjustly at this point. I am offering my suspicions to the town as others aren't even bothering to post.

I could sit here and protest over and over but it's keeping the focus on me and I think it's mafia attempting to take me out because I DO offer something to town.

I did try to just post the foses that were bold...excuse me if I missed any...I think I did get all the votes though.
VOTER    VOTE      WHO             PAGE
Afroboy         
Amadjin   fos   hippo                1
   vote   stevenryals   1
   fos   amadjin                1
   unvote   stevenryals   2
   vote   mophead                2
   fos   wesmancity   2
   fos   anyone not posted   2
   unvote   whoever it was before   5
   vote   stevenryals   5
   fos   svh   5
Bluestarsneyes   vote   wesmancity   5
Currieman   fos   SVH   1
   unfos   SVH   1
   fos   miasg   1
   vote   hippo   1
   fos   amadjin   2
   fos   mikeblue   5
   fos   hammersbro   5
   vote   stevenryals   5
Footballnewb         
Hammerbro   vote   mikeblue   5
   fos   stevenryals   6
HappyAxeman         
hippo   fos   currieman   2
   vote   footballnewb   6
   unvote   footballnewb   6
   vote   amadjin   6
Laserblue         
Miasg         
Mikeblue   fos   stevenryals   1
   fos   happy   1
   fos   miasg   1
   fos   mikeblue   1
   fos   yorky   2
   fos   mikeblue   2
   fos   amadjin   3
   fos   currieman   3
   fos   miasg   3
   fos   tch   3
mophead   vote   mikeblue   5
stevenryals   fos   amadjin   1
   vote   mikeblue   5
   unvote   mikeblue   5
   vote   bluestarsneyes   5
   fos   hippo   5
   fos   yorkshire   6
   fos   footballnob   6
   unvote   bluestarsneyes   6
   vote   mikeblue   6
SVH         
TCH   vote   footballnewb   6
Trick Pony   fos   stevenryals   1
Wesmancity   vote   currieman   2
   fos   amadjin   2
   unvote   currieman   6
   vote   bluestarsneyes   6
Yorkshireblue   fos   mikeblue   2


AND at this point...UNVOTE WESMANCITY....I really was just calling you on what you said...it was day one...and at this point...it's not worth putting my vote on you for that because I feel someone that doesn't even bother to post any suspicions at all is probably more suspect....do I think you are innocent...not sure...but for now after looking at these votes...probably not tops of my list anymore.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on July 02, 2008, 02:57:38 PM
someone posted while I posted this....ugh!
Sorry it was kind of slanted as well here's the update


Afroboy         yet to vote
         
Amadjin   fos             hippo                1
             vote           stevenryals        1
             fos             amadjin                1
             unvote        stevenryals          2
             vote           mophead                      2
             fos             wesmancity            2
             fos            anyone not posted   2
             unvote       whoever it was before   5
             vote           stevenryals               5
             fos             svh                        5

Bluestarsneyes   vote           wesmancity   5
                       unvote         wesmancity 6

Currieman          fos   SVH   1
                        unfos   SVH   1
                        fos   miasg   1
                       vote   hippo   1
                       fos   amadjin   2
                       fos   mikeblue   5
                       fos   hammersbro   5
                      vote   stevenryals   5
                      unvote stevenryals 6
                        vote amadjin 6

Footballnewb  yet to vote
         
Hammerbro   vote   mikeblue   5
                 fos   stevenryals   6

HappyAxeman  yet to vote
       
hippo   fos   currieman   2
   vote   footballnewb   6
   unvote   footballnewb   6
   vote   amadjin   6

Laserblue         yet to vote

Miasg         yet to vote (however did post he'd be out of town)

Mikeblue   fos   stevenryals   1
   fos   happy   1
   fos   miasg   1
   fos   mikeblue   1
   fos   yorky   2
   fos   mikeblue   2
   fos   amadjin   3
   fos   currieman   3
   fos   miasg   3
   fos   tch   3

mophead   vote   mikeblue   5

stevenryals   fos   amadjin   1
                   vote   mikeblue   5
                   unvote   mikeblue   5
                  vote   bluestarsneyes   5
                  fos   hippo   5
                  fos   yorkshire   6
                  fos   footballnob   6
                  unvote   bluestarsneyes   6
                  vote   mikeblue   6

SVH  yet to vote
       
TCH   vote   footballnewb   6

Trick Pony   fos   stevenryals   1

Wesmancity   vote   currieman   2
                   fos   amadjin   2
                   unvote   currieman   6
                   vote   bluestarsneyes   6

Yorkshireblue   fos   mikeblue   2

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 02, 2008, 03:12:02 PM
Have just read back through the last couple of games. Here's what I am thinking at the moment:

stevenryals - evil
hippo - town
TCH - undecided
Miasg - town
Trick Pony - town
HappyAxeman - undecided
Bluestarsneyes - evil
mophead - town
Mikeblue - evil
SVH - town
Hammerbro - town
Footballnewb - undecided
Wesmancity - town
Yorkshireblue - undecided
Laserblue - evil
Afroboy - town
Amadjin - evil

Having read the last few games Steven seems to make points about people that are on his team to try and deflect attention off him and I reckon the same thing may be happening here with Mikeblue and Bluestars. Amadjin, just think he's evil because of that post but he may have been joking. Couple of people I am undecided because they haven't posted very much or I just can't figure them out yet.

It is still the same people posting quite often though. We need everyone to start posting more otherwise we're just gonna go round in circles for the whole of day 1. I think there is quite a lot to go on now and am gonna stick with my vote for Amadjin for now
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 02, 2008, 03:15:10 PM
...I'm posting the count in a few when I'm finished digging through all these pages of posting.

I thought you were SOOOO busy at work?  Work doesnt chang in a matter of 1 hour dear..  you were lying earlier if you're not really busy and DO actually have the time to play your normal game..  mafia liar mafia liar!!!

you still have my vote if you havent noticed..  :)

(Could you leave a pillow on the couch for me, as that's where I'll probably be sleeping for a while lol)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 02, 2008, 03:20:44 PM
Interesting to see that Afroboy, FootballNewb, Happy Axeman, Laserblue, MIASG and SVH have all not done anything yet. Of those people, only MIASG has a reason.

Axeman's reason for not posting was alright enough for a day, but not anymore. He seems to be lying low now, and it's going unnoticed. It shouldn't be.

FootballNewb hasn't posted. That's dodgy, but i don't think it's a tactic, because he's in danger of being replaced, and he'd have said something about that if he was simply hiding. I guess he just can't be bothered.

Laser, afro and SVH have all posted a few times each, but done nothing. Why? Don't say you're saving votes for when it's clearer who's who, because if we all did that, nobody would ever learn anything. Unless you don't want anyone to learn anything? I'm pretty certain one of you three will be mafia. And if i had to guess, i'd say it was SVH based on this quote:

Im not sure if that was Amadjin slipping up, more like him just being daft.

Yes it was daft. He effectively claimed mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 02, 2008, 03:23:18 PM
wow.. 3 HUGE posts from the person that's TOOOOOOOOO busy at work to fully participate in the game..

girl.. you changed your tactic because you have a new neat fun role where you can kill people..  and you suck at being mafia....  if you make it past today.. i'll be impressed..  and dead... but impressed..



------------------
hey currie..  your list..  so..  you think that I could have outed TWO of my mafia brothers in bluestars & amadjin?   because for me, it's lynch bluestars today & amadjin tomorrow..  if you really think that.. then you haven't really thought this through very well..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 02, 2008, 03:25:12 PM
bluestars seems to be getting mad by being pressured and liek steven sadi you cant be that busy if you have just posted that
didnt bluestars defend mikeblue at the start
i find it interesting that bluestars, mikeblue, amadjin havent fosed or voted each other
i think the only reason mophead voted for mikeblue was he thought he was getting lynched and voting him would make him look innocent
Alright, going to read and catch up, seems Steven thinks I'm evil and my game play has changed...well is
DAY ONE! I don't normally have much to say until the game goes on a bit and honestly I haven't posted much because at the time there wasn't much to say. Steven always thinks I'm evil....so I'm not even going to bother trying to convince him.

Wes...you originally posted something suspicious making a statement that someone's game play was unnocticable mafia tactic....I simply asked you if it was only noticeable by mafia...and you noticed it...did that make you mafia! Instead of answering me you start questioning why I would find that supsicious???

So I have answered you and DID PREVIOUSLY when I originally posted it...so you can deflect the attention all you want...it was kind of tongue and cheek really calling you on your choice of words....and noticing that you were doing this one line posting again. So...take it for what you want....anyone can read what I wrote.

I have payroll today and getting ready to go out of town so I've not had time to catch up....I'll read and see what I think.

Previous games I did have some time on my hands to disect every little detail, I'm busy this game and kind of exhausted...lol...I love the game but to be that detailed takes time, not had it so far in this game...I will try to participate as much...but honestly my game plan has changed a bit because of time factor.

Seems to be an alright excuse for every other player but me! We have hardly ANY posts from other players and to focus on me is everyone's right...I get it it's Day one...but I really am just busy.

you get on at people in this post for not psoting but at the same time you say you dont say alot on the first day there is only footballnewbie who asnt posted

currieman how can you say mophead is town ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 02, 2008, 03:28:29 PM
Couple of people I am undecided because they haven't posted very much or I just can't figure them out yet.

Miasg - town

Strange.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 02, 2008, 03:55:48 PM
im not evil,ill explain why at around 10-11 gmt if not a bit later,commitments to fulfil
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 02, 2008, 04:00:11 PM
please dont role claim amadjin...  not on the 1st day please..  unless you must... i think you only have 3 votes or 2 votes at this point..

I'm reading back a bit to get a second eye on a few things.. and will post back if I find anything of worth.. 

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 02, 2008, 04:05:05 PM
Why has'nt there been a vote count??  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 02, 2008, 04:49:48 PM
Why has'nt there been a vote count??  ???

Laziness.

I've looked through, and officially it's this:

mikeblue 3 (hammerbro, mophead, stevenryals)
Hippo 1 (Currieman)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
stevenryals 1 (amadjin)
amadjin 1 (Hippo)
bluestars 1 (wesmancity)

Currie's voted for a couple of other people since he voted for me, but he never actually unvoted me so i don't think they count. And stevenryals seems to have forgotten he unvoted bluestars and voted for mikeblue. I might have missed some, if they weren't bold or something, speak up if they were. Or just wait til Hammer does the proper version.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 02, 2008, 05:10:25 PM
Oh OK, unvote Hippo and vote Amadjin for that weird post of his where he basically said he was mafia. Looking forward to seeing his reasoning. My list was pretty much guesswork for some people and then just what I thought for a couple of others and also to see their reaction. Not sure why I thought Mophead and MiasG were town, maybe I should've gone for undecided because they haven't posted much but they haven't really done anything that suspicious compared some of the others that have been very suspicious in my eyes.

Steven, you would be mad to vote for your 2 fellow mafia players but in the xmen game you were constantly accusing your fellow mafia of being mafia so I thought you could be doing the same here and I've seen it before where people have had to go along with a lynching of one of their own just so that people don't think they're suspicious.

As I've said there are lots of people still not posting very much that need to start posting otherwise I think lots of people should vote for them just to see if they do start posting more. If you're mafia I doubt that you're gonna not post very much because it'll look suspicious so you try to blend in as much as you can. Axeman has surprised me as he normally posts quite a lot and I doubt he'd be trying to stay under the radar by not posting so must have a valid reason for not posting much. Hammerbro, Afroboy, TCH, Trick Pony, Mophead and obviously FootballNewb need to start posting more as well
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 02, 2008, 06:50:54 PM
Just got in from work, Ive only got a little time, and theres too much to read and absorb.

Hmm, does anyone else read this like someone having a little stress that he's been rumbled as being evil very early on AGAIN?

And then he comes out with a bit of this "tit for tat" suspicion that mafia people seem very fond of using at the end. Dodgy.
eh? ??? wtf ??? no need for me to make a comment as I just dont see where your coming from? ???

like most have already pointed out, MikeBlue once again comes across as an evil mofo, I personaly am not going on that bandwaggon as he looked evil last game, he got lynched and had an important role. Mike is obviously a lunatic who has suicidal tendencies. lol
And i also concur that Bluestars seems to have a different style this time...

fuck gotta go out.. soz peeps, I'm off work tomorrow, I'll try and get on properly and let you know what i'm thinking.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 02, 2008, 06:59:53 PM
gotta go out.. soz peeps, I'm off work tomorrow, I'll try and get on properly and let you know what i'm thinking.

when the ladies call, you must answer... right axeman..  lol

Quote
And stevenryals seems to have forgotten he unvoted bluestars and voted for mikeblue

you're right..  coulda swore i voted bluestars after mikeblue (unvote mikeblue)

however..  as I've gone back over the game today..  I've decided that yes, bluestars has changed her style of play to the extreme..  this may be because she has a highly important role for the town.. and the only way to be sure is go vote amadjin, if he turns out to be guilty as i suspect, then I almost positive that we'll have a guilty verdict for bluestars as well..  damn.. but what if amadjin saw the votes going towards bluestars.. knows she innocent, and ckeekily diverted attention from her in order to make himself seem more innocent in the next day... 
i hate the mind games.. 

ok.. let me wrap my head around this.. bluestars under pressure..  amadjin steps in with a sus comment..  was he distracting? or thinking this could be a great time to be cheeky with my mafia claim and nobody will notice...?? 
i think i'll leave my vote with amadjin until something starts moving..  i think we're on the track..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 02, 2008, 07:37:16 PM
Admajin? Why would you go out and say this for no reason. "go mafia?"

FOS ADMAJIN
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 02, 2008, 07:46:14 PM
I've been looking back through the posts & I think I may have found something

I know this is a long post with lots of quotes but please take time to read through them


the following quotes are TCH's total contribution to the game.....

how can you post so much & not mention anything that is actually happening in the game?   


Page1
well it's 10:30am here so lets start again
page3
I'd say mostly one as i'm his boss, unless it's 3

Good to see Currieman and Amadjin back as they post and make the game more active and fun.

Where is Hammersbro he was active in the last game and now nothing !!

well if you got in at 5am then hopefully the date went well  ;)
Page4
miasg is a ginger too, does that help ?

i thought we discussed this in the graveyard last game as something to do
Page5
under account related settings in your profile
Page6
any chance of a vote count Hammer ? I'm lost with all the votes and unvotes.


Well i must say what annoy's me the most is lack of posting or contributing to the game and as yet the person who doesn't have a reason or hasn't provided one is footynewb so until he joins in i will
vote Footynewb

It's only when you get to the last post he actually mentions something to do with the game or posters .... & all he does is vote for someone who is not posting ...easy option?.... I maybe getting carried away with this but it seems really suspicious to me.....

FOS TCH
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 02, 2008, 07:48:40 PM
Admajin? Why would you go out and say this for no reason. "go mafia?"

FOS ADMAJIN

Hahaha, just to clarify with people.. i haven't just imagined him doing that have i?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 02, 2008, 07:54:43 PM
Hahaha, just to clarify with people.. i haven't just imagined him doing that have i?


no........ :laugh: :2funny: :lol:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 02, 2008, 08:20:17 PM
Hahaha, just to clarify with people.. i haven't just imagined him doing that have i?

sadly..  i think you are correct..  he did just do that.. 

remember a couple game ago..  he comes on and (this is just a reference for gods sake) say "i'm the godfather hahaha haha " and then put about 500 smilies with guns and bombs and crap..

and nobody listened to him..  he turned out to be a normal townie..  i figure that's what he is here..  he's just trying to make the game fun for himself.. 

i have an idea mophead..  instead of screwing around,... why not try to find evil?  post something worthwile mate or your grounded..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 02, 2008, 09:33:38 PM
Dust blows and wind howls. Sand is swept all across this dusty street in New Mexico. The distant sound of cannonballs are heard as battles between the Confederates and the Union rage on. Aside from this the town is eerily quiet, since everyone is gathered around the old clock tower waiting for a lynching. The crime must stop...it must stop.....won't it?

Vote Count

amadjin 3 (Hippo, Currieman, stevenryals)
mikeblue 2 (hammerbro, mophead)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
stevenryals 1 (amadjin)
bluestars 1 (wesmancity)

Currently without a vote 10 (the rest)


It's 10 votes to get a lynch.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 02, 2008, 10:15:34 PM
first things first,it was something i thought would be funny,like in a piss take sort of way
Admajin? Why would you go out and say this for no reason. "go mafia?"

FOS ADMAJIN
it was something i thought would be funny,like in a piss take sort of way. no1 seems to get this....

and if your going to quote me,look at my name before you post....its AMADJIN
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 02, 2008, 10:36:43 PM
how come when i hit space bar it posted?  ???

anyways,i think your right steveryals,i was considering doing as you mentioned previous because things seemed to be turning against me in a tidal wave sort of fashion lol.add this to the fact i was going to be away for several hours,i thought id be dead by the time i got back and being one step closer for everyone to a loss and i dont want that
sadly..  i think you are correct..  he did just do that.. 

remember a couple game ago..  he comes on and (this is just a reference for gods sake) say "i'm the godfather hahaha haha " and then put about 500 smilies with guns and bombs and crap..

and nobody listened to him..  he turned out to be a normal townie..  i figure that's what he is here..  he's just trying to make the game fun for himself.. 

i have an idea mophead..  instead of screwing around,... why not try to find evil?  post something worthwile mate or your grounded..

so someone has done it already? so my post thats been the bain of my wednesday was also pointless as i missed it happen already? for :swear: sake

judging by how you've reacted to my recent vigorous interregation of you steveryals,i can only conclude you seem to have some truth behind your answers. unvote steveryals

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 03, 2008, 12:20:41 AM
my vote for footynewb still stands. As i mentioned before it would annoy me when modding with people not posting. So i'd rather get them out of the game and have people who want to play playing.

Footynewb doesn't have net access at work but he's been at work all week so has no excuse for not posting as far as i am concerned from home. It's not as if he's away like miasg or Trick Pony next week.

Out of the main posters so far from Currie, Amadjin, Steve, Bluestars, Hippo and Wes i'd say 2 at least would be mafia trying to stir up trouble and a couple of mafia would be trying to keep a low profile to fly under the radar. I'm still trying to work out who i believe with the FOSing and counter FOSing.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 03, 2008, 04:50:30 AM
Just got back from Caloundra .. 8 pages for me to read through  :'(

I'll post some thoughts after I read through
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 03, 2008, 06:43:49 AM
shit I'm tired it was 9 pages  :D

OK some thoughts so far ..

A votes for B, C logs in and says its a cover up, A says its a joke .. it appears to be a common theme early on ..

re: all the talk about things from previous graveyards .. I haven't seen anything written from the previous graveyard as I was in the winning team so I've never heard of hiding my profile.  Can someone please explain it in full to me on this thread (and for others who haven't read it) as to the benefit of it.


Players (In order of Sign-Up)
stevenryals - by his own admission plays mafia really badly.  Early on I thought Mafia but now leaning towards townish
hippo - still trying to lay fairly low while still pushing buttons
TCH - geting post count up but saying nuthin .. votes for footynewb because he hasn't posted.  I can see why but I'll get to that on Footynewb.  TCH weren't you a Ginger as a youth ?
Trick Pony - not really helping town again.  Last game changed to avoid conflicts with me .. was mafia.  Seems to be on the same strategy.  Once again goes out of town for a period in this game.  I do know he had planned this trip a while ago - so I guess I'll wait until you come back to see what you really are.  If Mafia possibly not the GodFather. FOS :clown:
HappyAxeman - self confessed bored and quiet on day 1.  I expect nothing else.  Just like the next local election -Too early to call.
Bluestarsneyes - I agree with Steven that your posting is different.  But I also thought it was different last game up until the post again TP.  FOS Bluestarsneyes
mophead - who knows
Mikeblue - lots of ranting - seems to be a stevenryals v mikeblue thing happening again .. last game you made each other look mafia and did nothing to help us.  Mike your crazy - and I'll FOS you becuase I'm a ginger FOS MIKEBLUE
SVH - Trying to put some thoughts in but also trying to stay un-noticed.
Hammerbro - Pretty quiet.
Footballnewb - Once again he just doesn't post.  Only voting will bring him out and then he never says much.  Probably Townie then
Wesmancity - always posts weird things - not sure
Yorkshireblue - neither here nor there
Laserblue - as above - not helping or hindering town
Afroboy - a bit suss but I'm always a bit suspicious of Afroboy
Currieman - Ok for those who didn't see/read the deleted posts I'll try to briefly outline it as I thought it made Currieman very suss .. He had a go at me - I responded and said I wasn't Mafia and asked if he was as he asked me - he said he didn't (only like 4-5 posts total so we are not talking pages) - Stevenryals (first) and I pointed he had - then he says he's convinced I'm townie.  I said thats because he's mafia and he'd know. FOS Currieman
Amadjin - want to see him explode - just miss spell his name.  As usual just posts alot of shit that he finds funny and no one seems to be laughing.  Then gets violently upset at everyone.  Mafia ?  I think so. FOS Adamjin  ;)

so who do I vote for ? currieman has voted for amadjin

so we've gone from
mikeblue 3 (hammerbro, mophead, stevenryals)
Hippo 1 (Currieman)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
stevenryals 1 (amadjin)
amadjin 1 (Hippo)
bluestars 1 (wesmancity)
to
Vote Count
amadjin 3 (Hippo, Currieman, stevenryals)
mikeblue 2 (hammerbro, mophead)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
stevenryals 1 (amadjin)
bluestars 1 (wesmancity)

VOTE Currieman for being most mafia like .. for voting for hippo and then joining him and voting for the same person as hippo aka Amadjin (he's like mophead and always high on your suss list).  Interesting it appears that Steven always seems to be the 3rd voter too ...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 03, 2008, 10:54:42 AM

Currieman - Ok for those who didn't see/read the deleted posts I'll try to briefly outline it as I thought it made Currieman very suss .. He had a go at me - I responded and said I wasn't Mafia and asked if he was as he asked me - he said he didn't (only like 4-5 posts total so we are not talking pages) - Stevenryals (first) and I pointed he had - then he says he's convinced I'm townie.  I said thats because he's mafia and he'd know. FOS Currieman

VOTE Currieman for being most mafia like .. for voting for hippo and then joining him and voting for the same person as hippo aka Amadjin (he's like mophead and always high on your suss list).  Interesting it appears that Steven always seems to be the 3rd voter too ...
If I was mafia then why would I come out and say that I knew you were innocent. I was joking. The game had just started (or so I thought) and I asked if you were mafia, you said no and I said OK I believe with smilies etc. If I really was mafia then surely I'd have wanted to keep attention on you rather than on me or tried to pick up on something you had said?

The only reason I voted for Amadjin was because of that crazy post of his where he basically subliminally claimed he was mafia. If I was working with Hippo then why would I want to attract attention to us both by voting for the same person about 2 minutes after him? That just makes you really suspicious. Plus, you said I "joined" Hippo by voting for Amadjin. If I was voting for Hippo then yeah OK, that could be a mafia diversion but then surely I wouldn't do what you had said and join him by voting for Amadjin. That just doesn't work in and would be a really stupid mistake and I'm not that stupid!

Think you need to find someone else to pin your vote on MiasG, your couple of days away seem to have frazzled your brain
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 03, 2008, 11:33:23 AM
Not trying to stay unnoticed but at this rate I only seem to have time for one post a day so I dont want to waste that by putting in a random thought!!

Personally I think that Amadjin unvoting steveryals looks like an attempt to get one of his posters on his side and this quote that he will let us all know around 10 - 11 pm or whatever nonsense that is just reeks


vote amadjin


If he was just joking around its backfired big time


Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 03, 2008, 01:04:53 PM
Not trying to stay unnoticed but at this rate I only seem to have time for one post a day so I dont want to waste that by putting in a random thought!!

Personally I think that Amadjin unvoting steveryals looks like an attempt to get one of his posters on his side and this quote that he will let us all know around 10 - 11 pm or whatever nonsense that is just reeks


vote amadjin



If he was just joking around its backfired big time



point number 1 you've said nothing of relevent interest to make anyone pick up any information on you.
point number 2 i interregated currieman first then unvoted him,and i did the same with steveryals.
point number 3 if you werent such an ignorant  :swear: you would find the post explaining the 10-11 thing.
point number 4i commend you for saying nothing of importance then jumping on the bandwagon :thumbup:

if he was just joking,if he was just joking. I WAS  :swear: JOKING
 AMADJIN WAS JOKING

maybe now when people ask why i said it,they can see the 100th time of explaining

its beyond now,use me as a scapegoat,but just you watch the people who voted for me and use that one  :swear: post as their reason for voting for me,mafia :swear:


Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 03, 2008, 01:43:34 PM
Steven always seems to be the 3rd voter too ...

Correction..  i was first on Bluestars.. but pulled my vote off because.. well if you read the thread you'll know why.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 01:51:34 PM
I'm a bit suspicious of Mikeblue as well after that. Last couple of pages are nearly filled with just his posts. Obviously posting is a good thing but some of the stuff he posted just seemed a bit random and didn't really have any relevance. I'll FOS Mikeblue for now because I wanna see his reaction first just incase some mafia jump on the bandwagon that seems to be forming and possibly kill a perfectly innocent townie.

Odd from Hammerbro as well in that he's only had 1 post and immediately voted and is also going away for a couple of days tomorrow so he won't be able to change his vote. Maybe mafia hoping to get a bandwagon forming on Mikeblue? Hard to say but an FOS Hammerbro is needed for that I think. By the way Hammerbro isn't RayVonChong under a different name is it? :D



Bloody Hell!!!

Its day one! There is never anything relevant to post or say. Its all just a lucky guess. You can't post anything with any intellegince or knowledge. I was just trying to get the game going and rustle a few feathers and it seems to have worked! What else can you post other than random shit to get people involved in the game. For people to come out and think I am mafia already is ludricous and quite frankly very suspicious. People doing this appear to me to be looking for an easy excuse to vote sum1 they know is innocent and any townie would not do this and such evidence!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 03, 2008, 02:24:34 PM
Bloody Hell!!!

Its day one! There is never anything relevant to post or say. Its all just a lucky guess. You can't post anything with any intellegince or knowledge. I was just trying to get the game going and rustle a few feathers and it seems to have worked! What else can you post other than random shit to get people involved in the game. For people to come out and think I am mafia already is ludricous and quite frankly very suspicious. People doing this appear to me to be looking for an easy excuse to vote sum1 they know is innocent and any townie would not do this and such evidence!
Don't agree with that in the slightest. Pretty much everyone else that had posted has posted stuff that is relevant and has been trying to pick up on stuff that people have said

bla bla bla first day is pretty crap.

FOS Ryals,Happy,MIASG adn Trick Pony they always strike me as being evil before we begin!
So you FOS them because they "always strike you as evil", great reason.

FOS Bluestars for the simple reason that she is due to be evil by the laws o fpercentage games played.
"She's evil because of the law of percentages, yep great research there, really good contribution to the game.

Then there are about 4 (completely off-topic) posts you make about people being ginger and TCH going in for coffee and 2 posts saying that people are providing typical mafia commentary which is a load of rubbish and tried to dodge Hippo's point when he replied to you saying "mafia commentary" by saying that he pointed someone out who was suspicious and you replied with this:
MMmmmm....bite bite, snarf snarf, scratch scratch....rustled your feathers have I oh EVIL one!  >:D
Great comeback, really shows that you are innocent and he is evil

Then you FOS Amadjin because he wants you to stop posting complete shite?
MMMmmmm trying a little to hard to appear pro town here me thinks.....

Mental note made and in actual fact FOS AMADJIN

Then you finally start talking about something that might be relevant about TCH hiding his profile because it looks suspicious so he is evil and then you do it yourself!

Infact, up until the last post that you made you have made sod all relevant contribution to this game and I think you're doing that to go unnoticed and I am convinced you're evil now so Unvote Amadjin and Vote Mikeblue

Having just read back I see that Steven made pretty much exactly the same points as me a few pages back but I have just typed this so I'm not gonna delete it all now :D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 03, 2008, 02:29:49 PM
Not trying to stay unnoticed but at this rate I only seem to have time for one post a day so I dont want to waste that by putting in a random thought!!

Personally I think that Amadjin unvoting steveryals looks like an attempt to get one of his posters on his side and this quote that he will let us all know around 10 - 11 pm or whatever nonsense that is just reeks


vote amadjin


If he was just joking around its backfired big time




as made in my previous post,the point you not being around then suddenly jumping on the bandwagon in my opinion deems you evil Vote:stevevanhalen
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 02:45:31 PM
Since it seems I've missed the opportunity to place the pressure on Mikeblue like he deserves..  I'll give it one more shot.. here's mikeblues contribution..
off topic.. uselessreferring to ginger hairagainin reference to amadjin telling them to get back on topic..again referenceing gingerness..again with the commentary comment..after hippos response to his ridiculous claim that hippo was commentary-ing when he was just pointing something out..hey.. another ginger  joke..
I'm tired of quoting..

he then goes on to say TCH is suspicious because he hid his "online status" on his profile...  then asks TCH how to do it.. now Mikeblue himself is hidden.. 

after my vote.. he's not said a thing..

i hate to unvote bluestars.. because i'm 99% sure she's evil..  and once everyone gets on and recognizes her change in play, i think she will get some votes..  but for now unvote bluestarsneyes  VOTE MIKEBLUE cause of all that useless crap above..  it's as to show he's playing, but not helping the town at all.. all this uselss banter is on my last red nerve..




For fucks sake it was like the first 12 hours of the game and nobody had posted hardly. What was there to say? Was going along with the banter and getting the game started. Jesus Christ....talk about making something of nothing!

If you think that makes me evil then your power of investigations warrant you being assigned to the X-Files with Moulder and Skully!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 03, 2008, 02:49:42 PM
I was just trying to get the game going and rustle a few feathers and it seems to have worked!

can you please show me ONE place where you were trying to rustle some feathers.. ??

what you were trying to do was be funny, and not let any info out through your posts, but at the same time get your name in the thread often so people will see you but not notice you.. 

so.. go back... look at your own posts.. and show me where you've tried to rustle some feathers .
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 02:55:40 PM
Thought I better come on & post again tonight as I said I would....& probably won't be back on till after work tomorrow..

the last post was a bit brief in the sense that I didn't really explain my reasons for the points I made about peeps.. but I was on afros pc & he wanted it back to do his homework..

I think that on day one comparing how people are playing compared to the other games is valid up to a point..

With no previous voting having happened then It's one of the only things to go off & If someone has always played one way & them dramatically switches to another .. then I think you have to look at that ...

Why I said that steve looked suspect to me at the start was that his first few posts reminded me of a recent game he played & that was the only game I have played with him that he has been mafia....

 later he goes after mike & then bluestars big time ..... bluestars is  playing a different game than her normal style & mikes first post does look like a bad attempt to distance himself from her

& mike  ....the post were he says about tch hiding his ID was just rubbish as I'm sure he was on the graveyard board when tch came up with the idea in reply to me moaning that the game was ruined by people watching who was on line. I'm not going to quote  all his posts but there are a few similar ... but are they just mikes way of testing people ? ..
I was mafia last game & could not help to notice his posts often make him look evil without him actually being evil ....

I don't agree that mophead always posts the same way whichever side he is on
he may have realised he gave himself away as evil last game through some of his posts & is trying not to give himself away this time

whatever.. I don't think mophead, steve & bluestars are all evil it would be a bit of a coincidence

& I don't think steve & bluestars can both be evil cause of the way steve had a go at bluestars?

Tp is another one that makes himself look evil through his own posts, I was in the mafia with him in the last game & if he is evil then the more he posts the deeper the hole..... it's just a matter of time..

back on tomorrow  ...  ... hope we get a post from footynewb

sh*t some else has beat me to posting ... & I can't be bothered altering anything now

just looked at the post & yes it p*ss*ss me of too




The whole TCH hiding himself being online was an ongoing joke. God you people can make something out of nothing. Here is a seed and a slice of bread now make me up a Roast Beef lunch for six would ya!

And wwhats this whole thing about me distancing myself from Bluestars??? I am going to have to go back even further now and re read as I can not recollect a thing about saying anythin about Bluestars. It must have been in the first 2 pages of completly pointless posts by everyone that I am the only one that seems to be getting pointed out for. I swear I am noting all you down that are getting on my back so early with completly no evidence cause to me it fecking REAKS as I know I am town. Others should take note to.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 03, 2008, 02:58:48 PM
For fucks sake it was like the first 12 hours of the game and nobody had posted hardly. What was there to say? Was going along with the banter and getting the game started. Jesus Christ....talk about making something of nothing!

If you think that makes me evil then your power of investigations warrant you being assigned to the X-Files with Moulder and Skully!

they tended to be right didnt they???

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 03, 2008, 03:11:38 PM
The whole TCH hiding himself being online was an ongoing joke. God you people can make something out of nothing. Here is a seed and a slice of bread now make me up a Roast Beef lunch for six would ya!

And wwhats this whole thing about me distancing myself from Bluestars??? I am going to have to go back even further now and re read as I can not recollect a thing about saying anythin about Bluestars. It must have been in the first 2 pages of completly pointless posts by everyone that I am the only one that seems to be getting pointed out for. I swear I am noting all you down that are getting on my back so early with completly no evidence cause to me it fecking REAKS as I know I am town. Others should take note to.
vote mikeblue
already posted enough reasons but this post earns a vote
no evidence there is plenty
i put in one post there bluestars defended you at the start and neither of you have found each other sus
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 03:22:52 PM
Admajin? Why would you go out and say this for no reason. "go mafia?"

FOS ADMAJIN

You just got to love Mopheads contrbutions in each and every game....nearly caught up now. Only didn't look since Monday night and this is what i come back to like 6 pages!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 03, 2008, 03:29:52 PM
Vote:bluestarneyes

she has changed the way she plays,i spent a considerable few hours last night going over previous games,and when you consider how she posted before being accused,then suddenly goes back to her old style this strikes me as being dodgy
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 03, 2008, 03:33:09 PM
as made in my previous post,the point you not being around then suddenly jumping on the bandwagon in my opinion deems you evil Vote:stevevanhalen

Quote
Vote:bluestarneyes

she has changed the way she plays,i spent a considerable few hours last night going over previous games,and when you consider how she posted before being accused,then suddenly goes back to her old style this strikes me as being dodgy

DESPERATION!!   Amadjin..  I think you've been found out..   which one is it mate?  SVH or Bluestars?  so confused in that evil brain of yours that you are trying to start multiple bandwaggons at once...
now that would be impressive..

I think you've been caught amadjin.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 03:34:02 PM
shit I'm tired it was 9 pages  :D

OK some thoughts so far ..

A votes for B, C logs in and says its a cover up, A says its a joke .. it appears to be a common theme early on ..

re: all the talk about things from previous graveyards .. I haven't seen anything written from the previous graveyard as I was in the winning team so I've never heard of hiding my profile.  Can someone please explain it in full to me on this thread (and for others who haven't read it) as to the benefit of it.


Players (In order of Sign-Up)
stevenryals - by his own admission plays mafia really badly.  Early on I thought Mafia but now leaning towards townish
hippo - still trying to lay fairly low while still pushing buttons
TCH - geting post count up but saying nuthin .. votes for footynewb because he hasn't posted.  I can see why but I'll get to that on Footynewb.  TCH weren't you a Ginger as a youth ?
Trick Pony - not really helping town again.  Last game changed to avoid conflicts with me .. was mafia.  Seems to be on the same strategy.  Once again goes out of town for a period in this game.  I do know he had planned this trip a while ago - so I guess I'll wait until you come back to see what you really are.  If Mafia possibly not the GodFather. FOS :clown:
HappyAxeman - self confessed bored and quiet on day 1.  I expect nothing else.  Just like the next local election -Too early to call.
Bluestarsneyes - I agree with Steven that your posting is different.  But I also thought it was different last game up until the post again TP.  FOS Bluestarsneyes
mophead - who knows
Mikeblue - lots of ranting - seems to be a stevenryals v mikeblue thing happening again .. last game you made each other look mafia and did nothing to help us.  Mike your crazy - and I'll FOS you becuase I'm a ginger FOS MIKEBLUE
SVH - Trying to put some thoughts in but also trying to stay un-noticed.
Hammerbro - Pretty quiet.
Footballnewb - Once again he just doesn't post.  Only voting will bring him out and then he never says much.  Probably Townie then
Wesmancity - always posts weird things - not sure
Yorkshireblue - neither here nor there
Laserblue - as above - not helping or hindering town
Afroboy - a bit suss but I'm always a bit suspicious of Afroboy
Currieman - Ok for those who didn't see/read the deleted posts I'll try to briefly outline it as I thought it made Currieman very suss .. He had a go at me - I responded and said I wasn't Mafia and asked if he was as he asked me - he said he didn't (only like 4-5 posts total so we are not talking pages) - Stevenryals (first) and I pointed he had - then he says he's convinced I'm townie.  I said thats because he's mafia and he'd know. FOS Currieman
Amadjin - want to see him explode - just miss spell his name.  As usual just posts alot of shit that he finds funny and no one seems to be laughing.  Then gets violently upset at everyone.  Mafia ?  I think so. FOS Adamjin  ;)

so who do I vote for ? currieman has voted for amadjin

so we've gone from
mikeblue 3 (hammerbro, mophead, stevenryals)
Hippo 1 (Currieman)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
stevenryals 1 (amadjin)
amadjin 1 (Hippo)
bluestars 1 (wesmancity)
to
Vote Count
amadjin 3 (Hippo, Currieman, stevenryals)
mikeblue 2 (hammerbro, mophead)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
stevenryals 1 (amadjin)
bluestars 1 (wesmancity)

VOTE Currieman for being most mafia like .. for voting for hippo and then joining him and voting for the same person as hippo aka Amadjin (he's like mophead and always high on your suss list).  Interesting it appears that Steven always seems to be the 3rd voter too ...

This stinks of a mafia long pointless post to look like town and then a strange vote for curriman who may or may not be mafia with you. Either way your vote at this time matters not and I think that is the way you want it. Could well be in cahoots just my original thoughts for some reason.


FOS Curriman and AMadjin
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 03, 2008, 03:36:05 PM
just my original thoughts for some reason.

thats debatable..  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 03:43:00 PM
Don't agree with that in the slightest. Pretty much everyone else that had posted has posted stuff that is relevant and has been trying to pick up on stuff that people have said
So you FOS them because they "always strike you as evil", great reason.
"She's evil because of the law of percentages, yep great research there, really good contribution to the game.

Then there are about 4 (completely off-topic) posts you make about people being ginger and TCH going in for coffee and 2 posts saying that people are providing typical mafia commentary which is a load of rubbish and tried to dodge Hippo's point when he replied to you saying "mafia commentary" by saying that he pointed someone out who was suspicious and you replied with this:Great comeback, really shows that you are innocent and he is evil

Then you FOS Amadjin because he wants you to stop posting complete shite?
Then you finally start talking about something that might be relevant about TCH hiding his profile because it looks suspicious so he is evil and then you do it yourself!

Infact, up until the last post that you made you have made sod all relevant contribution to this game and I think you're doing that to go unnoticed and I am convinced you're evil now so Unvote Amadjin and Vote Mikeblue

Having just read back I see that Steven made pretty much exactly the same points as me a few pages back but I have just typed this so I'm not gonna delete it all now :D

All those quotes were in the first few hours when nothing was happening yet. If you take some time to notice now the game has actually started properly I will make more contributing posts. Even still, for all those pointless posts I made which I totally agree were pointless but did get the game started for you too be harping on about them the way you are is to be hones quite weird? I mean they were pointless and off topic but hardly point me out to be evil do they? For you to be going after me so much over nothing I have really said is quite bizarre to be honest.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 03, 2008, 03:45:32 PM
This stinks of a mafia long pointless post to look like town and then a strange vote for curriman who may or may not be mafia with you. Either way your vote at this time matters not and I think that is the way you want it. Could well be in cahoots just my original thoughts for some reason.


FOS Curriman and AMadjin

you qoute miasg saying his long post is mafia tactic then say his vote on currieman is strange who you fos yourself
then fos amadjin for no reason
you just keep digging
mafia look under pressure (mike blue amadjin)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 03:47:34 PM
they tended to be right didnt they???



Thats it Amadjin. You have hit the nail on the head! What defence do I have now?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 03:49:24 PM
This stinks of a mafia long pointless post to look like town and then a strange vote for curriman who may or may not be mafia with you. Either way your vote at this time matters not and I think that is the way you want it. Could well be in cahoots just my original thoughts for some reason.


FOS Curriman and AMadjin


I meant MIASG here just that Amadjin was whizzing through my head at the time with his erratic posts.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 03:50:45 PM
you qoute miasg saying his long post is mafia tactic then say his vote on currieman is strange who you fos yourself
then fos amadjin for no reason
you just keep digging
mafia look under pressure (mike blue amadjin)

Ha ha thought sum1 would pick up on that before I had time to change it.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 03:52:21 PM
typical mafia commentry ???
fos mike blue
for making stuff up to make me look evil

Still beat up about this post are we Yorky??? Figure you out early did I and you didn't like it and jumping on the easy vote for me and hoping others will follow. Not going to wash mate.

VOTE YORKSHIRE BLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 03:53:34 PM
vote mikeblue
already posted enough reasons but this post earns a vote
no evidence there is plenty
i put in one post there bluestars defended you at the start and neither of you have found each other sus

I still cannot find this so please point it out.

And I am sus because sum1 defended me and I didn't FOS them??? FFS sake Taggart!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 03, 2008, 03:54:36 PM
Keep digging mike..  If i wasnt pretty sure about amadjin I'd change my vote to you

[img]http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/photo/ke5c/1emebig.jpg]/img]
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 03, 2008, 03:55:25 PM
(http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/photo/ke5c/1emebig.jpg)
well that took all the sting out of my pisstake dinnit
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 03:57:00 PM
I have changed my proflile again now. As I have nothing to hide and some seem to have still not gathered the whole thing was in jest. Jesus people take this game more serious than life and think they are a memeber of the CIA when this game starts up lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 03, 2008, 03:58:17 PM
anything else to add?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 03, 2008, 04:01:40 PM
you really are scraping the barrel now mikeblue
Still beat up about this post are we Yorky??? Figure you out early did I and you didn't like it and jumping on the easy vote for me and hoping others will follow. Not going to wash mate.

VOTE YORKSHIRE BLUE
whats your reason for voting ??? trying to start bandwaggon thats really not going to happen
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
anything else to add?

Yeah this game is really starting to suck and is annoying me now.

I thought it was a laugh the first few games but now it has gone so serious and anything you say is taken too far, anyalised and re anyalised and then sent to ferensics for further anyalisation. I try and post when I can and make it light hearted and just end up coming on to shit loads of abuse and accusations. People obviously have not picked up this is how I play every game. Sick of trying to defend myself. Can't even think straight now as my head is Chocka with all the POOOOOO peeps have been saying and can't be assed posting my thoughts on people now. So if you want, lynch me again and see what happens but am sick of trying now so will do what others do as it seems easier and more affective and go down the road of not posting and contributing!

 :cursing: :argue: :fyou: :fist: :mad: :hammer: :wall: :axe: :death: :blahblah1:

Hissy fit over now lol.

 :bye2: :crying: :blue: :dummy:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 03, 2008, 04:09:28 PM
you say you cant be assed psoting thoughts on people now
can you show me where you have done that this game ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 04:20:39 PM
Still beat up about this post are we Yorky??? Figure you out early did I and you didn't like it and jumping on the easy vote for me and hoping others will follow. Not going to wash mate.

VOTE YORKSHIRE BLUE

Just for you YORKY!

Oh Evil one who won't leave me alone.

You remind of a nasty little infection going by the name of..... THRUSH translation........ ..irratating _UN_

Fill in the missing letters for todays star prize....answers on a letter please.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 03, 2008, 04:23:20 PM
is that all your thoughts on people
your just cracking under pressure or should a say cracked
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 04:25:33 PM
is that all your thoughts on people
your just cracking under pressure or should a say cracked

Damn you got me figured. What can I say. Everyone Yorky has it all figured just follow him down the path of the rightous. Vote Mikeblue!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 04:32:26 PM
I am the mafia godfather and also instruct the serial killer. I am also a member of the cult and am activly seeking people to join me. As well as all this can you believe that I am part of a mason group for the town. I have the most powerful role ever given out in any mafia game before and if you kill me now I will come back to life as an ivisible bannana. This means anyone that votes for me will be killed off in the night and it will be put down to a nasty slip!!! Whatever you do makes no difference at this point as I can only be killed when the moon corolates with the tides and there has been exactly 9 hours and 27 minutes of sun light on the planet Zorg and there have been 6 votes for me 3 FOs and then 2 votes taken off me and placed on the same other person in the same 15 seconds time frame.

Good luck I will prevail!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 04:37:43 PM
Town take note as the mafia will surely use me as an easy bandwagon and this can only help us in the long run.

There is no I in team and I am willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for the cause and jump on top of a live grenade to save my commanding officer.

Prepare for the bandwagon. As long the town is victorious I will chalk up another win for myself at the mafia game.

Good luck Town.

Mikeblue out!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 03, 2008, 04:41:50 PM
cheers mike,, i got a good laugh out of that last post..

but i find it funny also that you get on here saying your angry that everyone takes this game seriously..  and you are fuming..  seems you may be taking it too seriously if we're being honest..

i'm interested to hear what the rest of the players think about mikes skitzo tyraid today..  could provide some interesting clues..

also... mike..  i'm sure nobody will miss this quote here:

Quote from: Mikeblue
I am the mafia godfather...

by the way mike..  i'm fairly sure that your not dead yet..   and I doubt you have a 'suicide' action...  never heard of that one.. 

but really fair play today..  i've had a fair few laughs at you today..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 04:47:25 PM
cheers mike,, i got a good laugh out of that last post..

but i find it funny also that you get on here saying your angry that everyone takes this game seriously..  and you are fuming..  seems you may be taking it too seriously if we're being honest..

i'm interested to hear what the rest of the players think about mikes skitzo tyraid today..  could provide some interesting clues..

also... mike..  i'm sure nobody will miss this quote here:

by the way mike..  i'm fairly sure that your not dead yet..   and I doubt you have a 'suicide' action...  never heard of that one.. 

but really fair play today..  i've had a fair few laughs at you today..

Believe it all its all true!

I am serious that some people take it too seriously. I am serious that I really don't take it too seriously but I am seriously serious when I say that this game is seriously getting on my tits with people taking it too seriously and my comments taken too seriously for what they seriously are!   :saddam:

I have seriously lost the plot!  :taunt:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 03, 2008, 04:52:37 PM
I have seriously lost the plot!  :taunt:

yes.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 04:53:38 PM
cheers mike,, i got a good laugh out of that last post..

but i find it funny also that you get on here saying your angry that everyone takes this game seriously..  and you are fuming..  seems you may be taking it too seriously if we're being honest..

i'm interested to hear what the rest of the players think about mikes skitzo tyraid today..  could provide some interesting clues..

also... mike..  i'm sure nobody will miss this quote here:

by the way mike..  i'm fairly sure that your not dead yet..   and I doubt you have a 'suicide' action...  never heard of that one.. 

but really fair play today..  i've had a fair few laughs at you today..

I am glad somebody has not taken things too serious today, and that my pain and frustration has had a possitive affect on somebody out there in the big wide world!

I will begin playing again in day 2 if I survive lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 03, 2008, 04:56:04 PM
i dont take it serious at all
just playing the game
putting pressure on people and watching them crack
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 04:59:44 PM
i dont take it serious at all
just playing the game
putting pressure on people and watching them crack

Well be you good or evil you have not helped today as if you have read my role I am on your side!  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 03, 2008, 05:05:00 PM
how do i know your telling the truth
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 03, 2008, 05:07:09 PM
how do i know your telling the truth

In a John McEnroe shouting episode.....

YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS?!?!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 03, 2008, 05:27:54 PM
im not mafia,il role claim if i have to

Yeah this game is really starting to suck and is annoying me now.

I thought it was a laugh the first few games but now it has gone so serious and anything you say is taken too far, anyalised and re anyalised and then sent to ferensics for further anyalisation. I try and post when I can and make it light hearted and just end up coming on to shit loads of abuse and accusations. People obviously have not picked up this is how I play every game. Sick of trying to defend myself. Can't even think straight now as my head is Chocka with all the POOOOOO peeps have been saying and can't be assed posting my thoughts on people now. So if you want, lynch me again and see what happens but am sick of trying now so will do what others do as it seems easier and more affective and go down the road of not posting and contributing!

 :cursing: :argue: :fyou: :fist: :mad: :hammer: :wall: :axe: :death: :blahblah1:

Hissy fit over now lol.

 :bye2: :crying: :blue: :dummy:

no dont lynch him lol
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 03, 2008, 05:32:00 PM
Okay, so everybody is now claiming mafia. Joking or not, Amadjin certainly has started something. I'm willing to stake my life on the fact that at least one of the four who've done it, aren't lying.

These are the four quotes i'm referring to, just so people don't miss it.

it always makes me laugh when people do this,i just once would to see the mafia say 'go mafia' out the blue and see if we notice lol,don't you think it would be well funny?
i mean theres all of us accusing each other,and then wham 'go mafia!' out of nowhere,would save us a job,and give us a laugh
any volunteers??? scum???  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Admajin? Why would you go out and say this for no reason. "go mafia?"

"i'm the godfather hahaha haha "

I am the mafia godfather

Of these 4 people..

Amadjin: i've voted for him, but i'm less convinced that it's him doing it now.

mophead: did it, hasn't claimed it's a joke, hasn't said anything since. I'm pretty sure he was telling the truth.

stevenryals: Seems to be very happy with his version. Him saying to mikeblue that nobody would miss him saying it, came across as him being overly cocky thinking nobody had noticed that he had done it himself.

mikeblue: mental breakdown on the thread, i'm not really sure about him to be honest. I'll read these last posts more closely to try and suss him, but i'm not sure i've ever seen somebody have such a stress about being accused before - other than axeman obviously.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 03, 2008, 05:43:27 PM
whats the situation with footballnewb???
hammer are you going to replace him oh mighty one??? :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 03, 2008, 05:53:27 PM
What the hell just happened :laugh: Was starting to have 2nd thoughts about Mike now but that could've all been an act to try and get everybody to back off. Hard to say. And Mike, when you say that all those quotes of you posting crap happened in the first few hours, yes OK, that's fine but you also say that nothing was happening when the first few hours was when a lot of stuff happened with people accusing people and them defending themselves and accusing others so you were the only one that wasn't actually contributing properly at that point.

I also like the way that halfway through your nervous breakdown you picked out mophead as someone that could possibly be mafia for a really small reason but then there have been lots of other people that have looked suspicious who you don't quote and then accuse. Diversionary tactic perhaps? Never really seen something as crazy as that happen in Mafia before but I think I'll stick with my vote.

We picked up on some things you did and while others gave some reasoning, you just cracked and went off on a mass tirade which I think is just you realising that people have called you up on stuff and you can't get out of it so you just went for the last line of defence and went crazy to try and make people think that you are innocent.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 03, 2008, 07:31:34 PM
I expect TCH/miasg/tp to be on later so is it possible to find out if footienewb wants to play, cause if not then hammer is there a replacement.

I don't know what to make of all this role claiming mafia godfather business ... it was funny at first but it's not helping.. so if your town ... stop it now.

Usually by now there are 1 or 2 players alone that stand out as being really sus or town .. this time it's hard to tell with lots of peeps changing there playing style & all the mafia role claim jokes/pisstakes & others accusing & then retracting what they have said.

mike's rant makes him stand out but as I have said before .... I was mafia last game & he was a god send ... cause he made himself look sus was voted off first & was innocent ... I know that doesn't make him innocent this time but .... I'd be reluctant to vote for him at the mo.

I'd like to hear more from other players before I vote .

as well as others hammerbro, afro & mophead can we have your thought's please
also if you've not gone yet can TP give us a post on your thoughts before you go  ;D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 04, 2008, 12:19:37 AM
I've sent Newb a message checking if he is still playing. He hasn't been online since the 29th though.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 04, 2008, 12:48:07 AM
all i can say about footynewb is he's at work, he knows the game is on, but he can't access the game at work though he has a pc at home. I'm not there today but Trick Pony is and he can let him know he's in danger of getting the boot.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 04, 2008, 01:06:50 AM
This stinks of a mafia long pointless post to look like town and then a strange vote for curriman who may or may not be mafia with you. Either way your vote at this time matters not and I think that is the way you want it. Could well be in cahoots just my original thoughts for some reason.


FOS Curriman and AMadjin


well I missed a few pages so I thought I'd put my thoughts down for you so you didn't have to get them out of me.  What did you want me to do say a 4 word post and remain virtually hidden? does that sound like me?
My vote for Currieman was to put pressure on him that I wanted to do when we prematurely started .. your trying to point me as being evil but still FOS 2 of my suspicious list ... well guess who else was on it

unvote Currieman  and  VOTE MIKEBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 04, 2008, 01:12:57 AM
well I missed a few pages so I thought I'd put my thoughts down for you so you didn't have to get them out of me.  What did you want me to do say a 4 word post and remain virtually hidden? does that sound like me?
My vote for Currieman was to put pressure on him that I wanted to do when we prematurely started .. your trying to point me as being evil but still FOS 2 of my suspicious list ... well guess who else was on it

unvote Currieman  and  VOTE MIKEBLUE

Looks like a bandwagon vote to me MIASG, no real content in your justification mate... its probably just the 3 months you have off work that is making you lazy  :laugh: Well I have to read from page 6 or 7 to catch up then I will post my thoughts.

Also FBN said to say that he has internet issue at home at the moment which was his reasoning for lack of posts. He said he will post asap when it gets resolved so dont replace him.  Anyway thats what he told me to say.

Ok I will catch up and post before heading off till monday. I am working this monday then I am off for a week till the following monday. So I can reply till this monday so get me involved people's   :)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 04, 2008, 01:42:44 AM
your still a .. how did mike put it ? irratating  _UN_ :clown:

surely you can find an internet cafe one day/night in the middle of your holiday - you've pretty much set yourself up for a free ride to a later day.  You never help the town anyway so I guess you won't be missed.  Where are you staying I'll send you a list of places.  I was away for a few days so it was Ok - plus I tried to contribute before I went (but that got wiped anyway) .. I don't see a real contribution from you.

Hasn't Footynewb had computer issues for the last 3 games ?  surely you can log out at lunch and get him to catch up and post .. shit print out the pages for him .. tell him to spend $2 and go next door as there's 3 internet pc's at Alexander's.  Unless your both Mafia then I guess you just telling him what is happening and that he doesn't have to post yet.  this is not new for him and as I've said before voting usually draws him out - then he hides again.

@MikeBlue - people who post can always look evil - its the non posters/minimal posters aka so far hammerbro, HappyAxeman, and afroboy that will probably glide into the night phase as they are registering in people's thoughts much.  Mophead too is pretty quiet but he never posts anything substantial.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 04, 2008, 01:48:13 AM
Also FBN said to say that he has internet issue at home at the moment which was his reasoning for lack of posts. He said he will post asap when it gets resolved so dont replace him.  Anyway thats what he told me to say.

Ok I will catch up and post before heading off till monday. I am working this monday then I am off for a week till the following monday. So I can reply till this monday so get me involved people's   :)

for ____ sake.....lol


hammer can we have a vote/post count please i want to work something out if you dont mind,its ok if you dont
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 04, 2008, 02:05:04 AM
your still a .. how did mike put it ? irratating  _UN_ :clown:

surely you can find an internet cafe one day/night in the middle of your holiday - you've pretty much set yourself up for a free ride to a later day.  You never help the town anyway so I guess you won't be missed.  Where are you staying I'll send you a list of places.  I was away for a few days so it was Ok - plus I tried to contribute before I went (but that got wiped anyway) .. I don't see a real contribution from you.

I see your missing me MIASG :bleh: Im re reading from page 1 atm so give me some time to go over all posts dam it !! you evil little bugger, there is no way your innocent again your playinng style has changed again, being quieter than normal. I know you MIASG your definatley evil this time. Now I just have to find where you hinted at it.

I have noticed that most players who are evil give something away in their posts, for example in the last game reading posts from the graveyard is so frustrating when you know that person is evil and you can see they screwed up but the townies just cant see it. Im going to go back and look over all posts with that mind set and see what I can find.

Also we should make sure that the person in line for the lynching is not a townie before casting the final votes ! So dont be lazy and just vote on the bandwagon people provide a reason ! generally mafia players post the least as they dont read most of the posts like MIASG normally does !!!

you know it was coming MIASG you evil :cowboy: bandwagoning like a newb I expected more from you  >:(
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 04, 2008, 02:21:48 AM
Interesting alliances forming so early??

Trick Pony already after Stevenryals again?

Currieman helping Miasg appear innocent and then points out SVH...hhmmm...

and just to make it official and appear Joke like....here comes

Amadjin throwing more doubt to Miasg....conspiracy anyone?

And TCH throws his hat in the ring....towards hippo...to get the game rollin....well roll on mafia...you might make this day easy after all!


Bluestars can you explain what you ment here ? sure looks like what iv been looking for day one first post and your already looking like mafioso, and it was Amadjin not TCH so what the go there ? on purpose or just an innocent mistake !!!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 04, 2008, 02:55:51 AM
stevenryals: Seems to be very happy with his version. Him saying to mikeblue that nobody would miss him saying it, came across as him being overly cocky thinking nobody had noticed that he had done it himself.

i'm not allowed to post quotes from past games, or that would have been in a quote box.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 04, 2008, 03:28:22 AM
I see your missing me MIASG :bleh: Im re reading from page 1 atm so give me some time to go over all posts dam it !! you evil little bugger, there is no way your innocent again your playinng style has changed again, being quieter than normal. I know you MIASG your definatley evil this time. Now I just have to find where you hinted at it.

I have noticed that most players who are evil give something away in their posts, for example in the last game reading posts from the graveyard is so frustrating when you know that person is evil and you can see they screwed up but the townies just cant see it. Im going to go back and look over all posts with that mind set and see what I can find.

Also we should make sure that the person in line for the lynching is not a townie before casting the final votes ! So dont be lazy and just vote on the bandwagon people provide a reason ! generally mafia players post the least as they dont read most of the posts like MIASG normally does !!!

you know it was coming MIASG you evil :cowboy: bandwagoning like a newb I expected more from you  >:(

1. your telling me to hang on because your on page 1 ? you've already had 11 posts ...
2.
Also we should make sure that the person in line for the lynching is not a townie before casting the final votes ! So dont be lazy and just vote on the bandwagon people provide a reason ! generally mafia players post the least as they dont read most of the posts like MIASG normally does !!!
no shit sherlock
3. fuck off to melbourne
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 04, 2008, 03:33:43 AM
now now bitches...haha

you have anything to add to todays proceedings???
its been relatively quiet compared to wednesday,how are we supposed to flush out evil if no1 posts ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 04, 2008, 04:08:36 AM
1. your telling me to hang on because your on page 1 ? you've already had 11 posts ...
2.  no shit sherlock
3. fuck off to melbourne

 :laugh:  :laugh:   :laugh:  :laugh:   :laugh:

Stop proving my point and read the posts you  >:D clown. I see every game you get fiery you have an evil role so you have blown another theory out in the open  :blush: wow your way to easy to read MIASG your game has deminished  :whistle:

I said I was re-reading every post to see how people have responded, much like bluestars normally does, I have a spread sheet of reasons and votes etc that im working on to try find a pattern of peoples responses towards each other.  Now im still only half way through the posts as I keep getting interupted at work  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 04, 2008, 05:55:09 AM
we need to get these people involved in the game..

TCH - first game i think.. been kinda quiet..
Miasg - out until tomorrow i think..
HappyAxeman - 2 posts, but he has a decent excuse.. he's either still sleeping or his hands are too sore to type today..  ;)
mophead - has a few post.. but a total word count of 7
SVH - fat left a floatah'..  floating through day 1 yet again..
Hammerbro - a waste so far.. and wont be back for a bit apparently
Footballnewb - ?? wheres he been?
Yorkshireblue - and this one.. come on yorkshire
Laserblue - laser & afro sitting back a bit on day one.. need to get more involved..
Afroboy -


day one is going just as usual.. a few people stabbing at each other while others sit back and laugh at us..

FOS Yorkshireblue & Footballnob

Steve I had to point this out I missed it the first time but thats Gold about Footballnob  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 04, 2008, 07:19:38 AM
wow 12 pages is a long read,

Now comment within 48 hours so I can respond before I head off for a week  :)

SteveRyals - townie
hippo -  undecided
TCH - possible mafia godfather - hes too quiet for comfort and knowing him hes definatley hiding staying low
MIASG - undecided - hes playing a different game from the last, quiet in that hes not investigating every detail so either he doesnt care which is unlikley or he knows whos who and is evil. Though nothing concrete on him atm.
Happy Axeman - townie
Bluestars -  definatley mafia - no doubt at all. I believe Steve has her running for the hills, he is probably still sleeping on the couch poor bugger. Blue your tactics have changed so much that you gave yourself away.
mophead - mafia - too easy to see
Mikeblue - undecided but thinking mafia because of the evidence against him.
SVH - undecided
Hammerbro - townie at this stage
Footballnob - probably townie but he has to show up first to defend himself
Wesmancity - undecided seems evil and provides famous one liners
Yorkshire Blue - townie at this stage - tit for tat voter atm
Laserblue - townie at this stage
Afro boy - undecided
Currieman - townie
Amadjin - mafia at this stage though he maybe like me likes to play aggressive to provoke people  :blush:

Well after reading all 12 pages im voting for Bluestars because of the following reasons ;
in the last 3 games you've played, you've been town.. so this goes against you in percentages

each time you have waited until the end of the day after heavy research before posting a vote..
you have now posted 3 or 4 times and now you are already voting..  to early for normal townie bluestars

she's very calculated, posts statistics of votes, fos's etc etc, and waits until late in a lynch before posting a vote.. so so true you are never so eager to vote as you may kill off a townie

dont think she's ever been the first to vote for anyone..  she's playing a very different game from the previous where she has NEVER been mafia before.. which is why you have my vote the more responses I read from various people the deeper you sink. Steve should have just found a grave stone and put RIP Bluestars as your goooonnnneeee...

I have a table with everyones votes foss's etc and have seen various groupings, the interesting ones are where people have defended each other, i will keep that to myself for now but I will post it later on.  Well ill be off for two days now but will respond on monday before heading off for the week.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 04, 2008, 09:49:59 AM
I don't really have anything to add at the moment because I am convinced MikeBlue is guilty but I wanted to post just to say can all the people that have barely posted please start posting because you're making the game shit!!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 04, 2008, 10:18:59 AM
Vote Count

amadjin 3 (Hippo, stevenryals, Steve Van halen)
mikeblue 5 (hammerbro, mophead, Currieman, Yorkshire Blue, Miasg)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
bluestars 3 (wesmancity, Amadjin, Trickpony)
Yorkshire Blue 1 (Mikeblue)


Currently without a vote 5 (the rest)


Remember at the moment it's 10 votes to get a lynch.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 04, 2008, 11:31:18 AM
wow 12 pages is a long read,

Now comment within 48 hours so I can respond before I head off for a week  :)

SteveRyals - townie
hippo -  undecided
TCH - possible mafia godfather - hes too quiet for comfort and knowing him hes definatley hiding staying low
MIASG - undecided - hes playing a different game from the last, quiet in that hes not investigating every detail so either he doesnt care which is unlikley or he knows whos who and is evil. Though nothing concrete on him atm.
Happy Axeman - townie
Bluestars -  definatley mafia - no doubt at all. I believe Steve has her running for the hills, he is probably still sleeping on the couch poor bugger. Blue your tactics have changed so much that you gave yourself away.
mophead - mafia - too easy to see
Mikeblue - undecided but thinking mafia because of the evidence against him.
SVH - undecided
Hammerbro - townie at this stage
Footballnob - probably townie but he has to show up first to defend himself
Wesmancity - undecided seems evil and provides famous one liners
Yorkshire Blue - townie at this stage - tit for tat voter atm
Laserblue - townie at this stage
Afro boy - undecided
Currieman - townie
Amadjin - mafia at this stage though he maybe like me likes to play aggressive to provoke people  :blush:

Well after reading all 12 pages im voting for Bluestars because of the following reasons ;
in the last 3 games you've played, you've been town.. so this goes against you in percentages

each time you have waited until the end of the day after heavy research before posting a vote..
you have now posted 3 or 4 times and now you are already voting..  to early for normal townie bluestars

she's very calculated, posts statistics of votes, fos's etc etc, and waits until late in a lynch before posting a vote.. so so true you are never so eager to vote as you may kill off a townie

dont think she's ever been the first to vote for anyone..  she's playing a very different game from the previous where she has NEVER been mafia before.. which is why you have my vote the more responses I read from various people the deeper you sink. Steve should have just found a grave stone and put RIP Bluestars as your goooonnnneeee...

I have a table with everyones votes foss's etc and have seen various groupings, the interesting ones are where people have defended each other, i will keep that to myself for now but I will post it later on.  Well ill be off for two days now but will respond on monday before heading off for the week.



Am curious as to where this so called evidence against me is??? Its the first day its all just guess work and opinions. I have no problem with you coming out and saying "I think Mikeblue is evil" but to say " I think he is Mafia because of the evidence" is trying to justify your reasoning with actually no facts.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 04, 2008, 11:32:04 AM
well I missed a few pages so I thought I'd put my thoughts down for you so you didn't have to get them out of me.  What did you want me to do say a 4 word post and remain virtually hidden? does that sound like me?
My vote for Currieman was to put pressure on him that I wanted to do when we prematurely started .. your trying to point me as being evil but still FOS 2 of my suspicious list ... well guess who else was on it

unvote Currieman  and  VOTE MIKEBLUE

Didn't like me calling you out pal???

So you go straight for the tit for tat vote...mmmmm...inte resting.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 04, 2008, 11:32:57 AM
all i can say about footynewb is he's at work, he knows the game is on, but he can't access the game at work though he has a pc at home. I'm not there today but Trick Pony is and he can let him know he's in danger of getting the boot.

Been very quiet over there Tommy???

Any reason for this or you just too valuable to the mafia to draw any attention to yourself at this stage cause you sure as hell arn't helping the town.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 04, 2008, 12:13:43 PM
wow 12 pages is a long read,

Now comment within 48 hours so I can respond before I head off for a week  :)

SteveRyals - townie
hippo -  undecided
TCH - possible mafia godfather - hes too quiet for comfort and knowing him hes definatley hiding staying low
MIASG - undecided - hes playing a different game from the last, quiet in that hes not investigating every detail so either he doesnt care which is unlikley or he knows whos who and is evil. Though nothing concrete on him atm.
Happy Axeman - townie
Bluestars -  definatley mafia - no doubt at all. I believe Steve has her running for the hills, he is probably still sleeping on the couch poor bugger. Blue your tactics have changed so much that you gave yourself away.
mophead - mafia - too easy to see
Mikeblue - undecided but thinking mafia because of the evidence against him.
SVH - undecided
Hammerbro - townie at this stage
Footballnob - probably townie but he has to show up first to defend himself
Wesmancity - undecided seems evil and provides famous one liners
Yorkshire Blue - townie at this stage - tit for tat voter atm
Laserblue - townie at this stage
Afro boy - undecided
Currieman - townie
Amadjin - mafia at this stage though he maybe like me likes to play aggressive to provoke people :blush:

Well after reading all 12 pages im voting for Bluestars because of the following reasons ;
in the last 3 games you've played, you've been town.. so this goes against you in percentages

each time you have waited until the end of the day after heavy research before posting a vote..
you have now posted 3 or 4 times and now you are already voting..  to early for normal townie bluestars

she's very calculated, posts statistics of votes, fos's etc etc, and waits until late in a lynch before posting a vote.. so so true you are never so eager to vote as you may kill off a townie

dont think she's ever been the first to vote for anyone..  she's playing a very different game from the previous where she has NEVER been mafia before.. which is why you have my vote the more responses I read from various people the deeper you sink. Steve should have just found a grave stone and put RIP Bluestars as your goooonnnneeee...

I have a table with everyones votes foss's etc and have seen various groupings, the interesting ones are where people have defended each other, i will keep that to myself for now but I will post it later on.  Well ill be off for two days now but will respond on monday before heading off for the week.



so im mafia yet steveryals and currieman play in the same style and are classed townie. what we do is provoke people into defending themselves,then you can tell who is pro town in most cases and who isnt.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 04, 2008, 12:46:22 PM
Maybe he just doesn't like you Amadjin :D Or the other alternative which is that he saw your post where you said you were mafia ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 04, 2008, 01:40:12 PM
i never fooking said i was mafia,jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez....or its him jumping on a bandwagon

everyones barking up the wrong tree at the moment and it needs to be changed or the town are going to suffer as a consequence
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 04, 2008, 04:44:33 PM

TCH - possible mafia godfather - hes too quiet for comfort and knowing him hes definatley hiding staying low
MIASG - undecided - hes playing a different game from the last, quiet in that hes not investigating every detail so either he doesnt care which is unlikley or he knows whos who and is evil. Though nothing concrete on him atm.
Footballnob - probably townie but he has to show up first to defend himself

Well after reading all 12 pages im voting for Bluestars because of the following reasons ;
in the last 3 games you've played, you've been town.. so this goes against you in percentages
It's funny that 2 of the 3 people you work with are according to you mafia .. but the one who hasn't even posted is probably townie !  go figure.  it makes no sense.  your just trying to get people to vote for me ... again .. and also listing TCH as the only possible godfather - why only him - and why godfather? .. and me for changing the way I play .. I was away for 3 days :clown: and all your doing is making me go at you again .. like previous games .. I think it's funny that I get emails from you prompting me to log on and respond to something against me .. once again you are not helping the town .. and seeing how you away for a week your still no help.

You are an idiot and after re-reading 12 pages you vote on percentages according to roles in previous games ?  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 04, 2008, 04:48:11 PM
Maybe he just doesn't like you Amadjin :D
  who does ?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 04, 2008, 04:53:33 PM

Didn't like me calling you out pal???

So you go straight for the tit for tat vote...mmmmm...inte resting.
not I was responding to your quote
This stinks of a mafia long pointless post to look like town and then a strange vote for curriman who may or may not be mafia with you. Either way your vote at this time matters not and I think that is the way you want it. Could well be in cahoots just my original thoughts for some reason.


FOS Curriman and AMadjin

I was just putting my first real post down and you call it stinking of a long pointless mafia post.  I also explain why I voted for currieman but you call it strange and that my vote didn't matter.  Am I not entitled to vote for who I want to ?  seems to me that you want me to vote for the vote leaders .. and it's still you. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 04, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
Also we should make sure that the person in line for the lynching is not a townie before casting the final votes ! So dont be lazy and just vote on the bandwagon people provide a reason ! generally mafia players post the least as they dont read most of the posts like MIASG normally does !!!

You're mafia mate..  you're trying WAAAAY too hard to seem like your town..  waaay too hard..


then you do this:

Well after reading all 12 pages im voting for Bluestars because of the following reasons ;
in the last 3 games you've played, you've been town.. so this goes against you in percentages

each time you have waited until the end of the day after heavy research before posting a vote..
you have now posted 3 or 4 times and now you are already voting..  to early for normal townie bluestars

she's very calculated, posts statistics of votes, fos's etc etc, and waits until late in a lynch before posting a vote.. so so true you are never so eager to vote as you may kill off a townie

dont think she's ever been the first to vote for anyone..  she's playing a very different game from the previous where she has NEVER been mafia before.. which is why you have my vote the more responses I read from various people the deeper you sink. Steve should have just found a grave stone and put RIP Bluestars as your goooonnnneeee...

you've basically repeated me..  you're making big posts to seem like your town.. but you're just regurgitating the same stuff other people have said..

FOS Trick PONY

OK.. so Trick Pony & Amadjin are surely mafia.. anyone else?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 04, 2008, 05:06:41 PM
  who does ?
Trick Pony
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 04, 2008, 06:41:43 PM
To be honest I'm not as sure mikeblue is mafia as most other people are, I seen him do crazy stuff like this before and even though this is on a different scale I wouldn't jump to conclusions on him.

And why aren't we getting rid of the person who I'm very certain is mafia?

Mophead has said he is and then not come back since and also I don't think mophead was joking. He's not defended himself against it either.

Vote mophead

Yorky, Amadjin and bluestars are looking very suspisious to me as well. Yorky is sayin he is making mikeblue crack. Them one line garbage posts wouldn't make a ....... crack never mind anyone else. For me his posts have been useless, small, meaningless and backed up by nothing much than what others have already done. Fos Yorky
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 04, 2008, 08:45:35 PM
OK.. so Trick Pony & Amadjin are surely mafia.. anyone else?

now your just being a cock  :laugh:
look with your eyes steve at this page and the last and you'll find the truth
defend yourself bluestars,you've gone rather quiet. telling sign i think....disappeare d since going back to her old style of posting....
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 04, 2008, 10:21:29 PM
Bluestars a few people have pointed to you as being possibly evil..... so why don't you defend yourself ?

Mophead all you have done in the last few days is basically say you are evil & disappear .. if this carries on for much longer I feel I'm left with no other option but to vote for you..

miasg your style seems to be reverting back to when you were evil .........
by that I mean last game you were town & were very pro-active in finding mafia.... but in this game you seem to be back to squabbling with tp ....

wes I don't think we have heard from you in a while

I hope axeman & hammerbro are going to be a bit more active in the future as they have been a waste of space so far.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 04, 2008, 11:41:40 PM
Bluestars a few people have pointed to you as being possibly evil..... so why don't you defend yourself ?

get your own ideas,read my post and thought you'd emphasise what i said huh?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 05, 2008, 02:06:16 AM
bluestars, myself & mophead are at the beach until monday morning.. so we'll not be on much...   i've had about 8 beerz..and she's on the margarita's..  so.. we'll talk to you fool's tomorrow and stuff...

so... basically.. bluestars & I are out to the beach..  mophead is here.. but its just like he's playing...  you know.. just without the bizarre random quote here and there lol

we'll be back monday..  we have proof too.. just took some family photos  ;) 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 05, 2008, 03:25:26 AM
miasg your style seems to be reverting back to when you were evil .........
by that I mean last game you were town & were very pro-active in finding mafia.... but in this game you seem to be back to squabbling with tp ....
I feel that TP is provoking me again and I'm damned if I respond and I'm damned if I don't.  He knows he's going away so he can't respond to much and he's probably banking on that.  if it's the usual one of you must be mafia then I'd be the one to go becuase I'm still around and he can't defend himself .. and you'd all be wrong.
How and when have I not tried to help town?  I tried to stay away from TP last game but he looked suss and it turned out he was nazgul.  If I think he's possibly mafia then I will have a go at him.  All he's doing is setting me up .. and then emailing me telling me he's written something about me that he thinks will get me voted off .. TP do you deny this ? that my friends is a personal vandetta and not helping the town.   I'm finding it harder this game to really come into it 9 pages in and try to figure out where people are .. some gut feelings I had when reading on say page 3 might have been changed by page 7 .. but if I was playing online the whole time I probably would have questioned it along the way.   
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 05, 2008, 01:08:05 PM
I keep checking but no one is either around or posting ... which is slack considering the pace early on- I had hoped my other aussies would have surfaced today.

I'm still waiting to know more about the hidden profile or whatever (I see someone is online now with it) .. what was said?  it would appear to be a mafia benefit at night time but otherwise I don't get it.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 05, 2008, 02:41:29 PM
I keep checking but no one is either around or posting ... which is slack considering the pace early on- I had hoped my other aussies would have surfaced today.

I'm still waiting to know more about the hidden profile or whatever (I see someone is online now with it) .. what was said?  it would appear to be a mafia benefit at night time but otherwise I don't get it.

In the graveyard thing from the last game, laserblue (i think) raised some issues about how people were working out what people were just by sitting on the "who's online" thing, and seeing if they were sending messages or not, and ruling people out because they hadn't seen them online. So it was suggested that people change it (there's a box to tick somewhere in your profile settings), and i think a fair few people did it at the time, and then maybe a few more when mikeblue started speaking about it earlier in the game. There's only really a point to it if everyone does it though, because now i'm finding the people who changed at the start of this game suspicious - seems like they have something to hide. And that's kind of the same thing as what we were trying to get rid of.

As for the actual game, soz for not posting the last couple of days. Had my graduation so i was a bit busy.  Well, drunk anyway.

From just reading through now, it's really hard to judge. The same people always seem to accuse each other in these games, which doesn't help. I don't know how to judge a conflict between TP and MIASG because it all seems to be based on knowing what each other are like, rather than points that everyone else can see and use to form their own opinion.

I think largely stevenryals' points about bluestars seem to be taken less at straight value, due to the fact that every game he is 100% convinced that one of bluestars or mophead are evil on day one. This time though, her gameplay has changed drastically, and i can't help feeling that she probably is mafia. She's doing nothing to help the town, and everything she has done, has been kind of forced - producing a list when she'd claimed to not have time for it, claiming to be trying to spark conflict, when as soon as wes argued back, she unvoted; this makes me think she has something to hide. Her defense for not being evil was that we should be focusing on the non-posters - which is desperation. It's the easy option for her to get to the night phase. Strong sense that she's dodgy. Nothing about her seems right this time.

But, mophead has actually claimed to be mafia. He has said nothing since, and well, it just looks like he realised he made a mistake and hoped no one would remember it. I don't fully accept amadjin's claim that he was joking, but i'm not 100% that he wasn't.. whereas i think mophead just saw an opportunity to actually tell people he's mafia, and get away with it. So, with that in mind..

unvote amadjin
vote mophead
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 05, 2008, 04:06:30 PM

unvote amadjin
vote mophead


boo..  i still think amadjin should be the first lynch..  i'm sticking with him..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 05, 2008, 07:24:53 PM
Vote Count

amadjin 2 (stevenryals, Steve Van halen)
mikeblue 5 (hammerbro, mophead, Currieman, Yorkshire Blue, Miasg)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
bluestars 3 (wesmancity, Amadjin, Trickpony)
Yorkshire Blue 1 (Mikeblue)
Mophead 2 ( Afroboy, Hippo)


Currently without a vote 4 (the rest)


Remember at the moment it's 10 votes to get a lynch.


I'm about to make a 16 hour car journey back to England so will be unable to update. The game isn't going into a deadline because of the lively debate and i'm sure a lynch will be achieved.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 05, 2008, 08:06:11 PM
Ok .. peeps who don't post stink  :bleh: if your town & not posting then your making it easy for the mafia & possibly cult?

I know I had a go at TCH for voting footienewb as it was the easy option .. but I understand where he is coming from. if he hasn't posted by day 2 then I think he should go. FOS footie newb

mophead until I hear what you have got to say for yourself you get my vote .. vote mophead
I know this is looking like a bit of a bandwagon... but with the amout of votes needed to get a lynch this time peeps think they are to safe & coming on with a trick like that then not coming on to defend yourself you can't expect anything else...

I think bluestars needs to do some talking as well FOS bluestars

fos hammerbro & axeman until they post >:(

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 05, 2008, 08:36:31 PM
fos hammerbro & axeman until they post >:(

Hammerbro said he was going away for the week i believe.

Axeman needs to post. His excuses from earlier in the week hold no relevance now, and the other time he posted seemed to be an "i'll just check no-one's voting for me", show my face, and then disappear again kind of thing. The other time he just regurgitated what was being said by everybody else.

fuck gotta go out.. soz peeps, I'm off work tomorrow, I'll try and get on properly and let you know what i'm thinking.

This was days ago now; no post since; no contribution.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 05, 2008, 08:50:22 PM
What was deleted beforehand? I have Admin privaledges which lets me read what has been deleted, before i delete it for good... I can ALWAYS see what peeps have deleted. And i got to say, i actualy read the posts before they were deleted, and there was a post by currieman which had me thinking he could of slipped up. I'm a believer that at least 1 mafia will always make a mistake early on... its just a case of picking up on it.

This is part of his one post needles me as well. If he thinks currieman has made a revealing mistake, then why would he be vague about it? Why not state what it was? Even if he's not certain, make Currie answer for whatever it was, and then he'll have a chance of working him out properly. He's a clever player and he knows how to play as a townie.

He stated in the previous game, or graveyard thread, that when he was playing as a serial killer, he tried to play in the same way as he would if he were a townie, i.e. causing conflict, trying to suss people out. He's not doing that this game. So what can we conclude from that? He's not playing like a serial killer; he's not playing like a townie.. what's left?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 05, 2008, 10:37:29 PM
first thing first, you can all have my apologies for not posting, but unexpected things have happened in my life just as this game was started...

Axeman needs to post. His excuses from earlier in the week hold no relevance now, and the other time he posted seemed to be an "i'll just check no-one's voting for me", show my face, and then disappear again kind of thing. The other time he just regurgitated what was being said by everybody else.

This was days ago now; no post since; no contribution.
actually it does still hold relevance, because... I dont usually talk about my private life over bloody forums but since this is a mafia game and you have to explain yourself here goes. lol
 A its the truth
 B Its been that long since ive been attached to anyone, that you cant blame me for not being around..
 C Ive not even been on my forum as ive barely been home, there is no internet access where ive been staying. If i have access and time, I post simple as.
 D Ive dropped her off at the pub with her friends, walked the dog and here i am... only ive now got 13 pages of stuff to read and try and abosrb stuff and then be in bed soon to get up for work at 5 in the morning and then i'll get home at 6pm... walk dog for an hour, and somehow do the stuff i need to do and go bed before 11 to go get up at 5 again... can someone explain how i'm supposed to find more time?

This is part of his one post needles me as well. If he thinks currieman has made a revealing mistake, then why would he be vague about it? Why not state what it was? Even if he's not certain, make Currie answer for whatever it was, and then he'll have a chance of working him out properly. He's a clever player and he knows how to play as a townie.

He stated in the previous game, or graveyard thread, that when he was playing as a serial killer, he tried to play in the same way as he would if he were a townie, i.e. causing conflict, trying to suss people out. He's not doing that this game. So what can we conclude from that? He's not playing like a serial killer; he's not playing like a townie.. what's left?
Ive not had a chance to play as anything have i(see above shit) but yes i am a townie, but everyone is going to say that anyway so what good does it do?

the early deleted posts which i found a bit strange? I dont see anything in the rules which states i cant do this so here goes(I can quote the whole deleted manuscript - minus the quotes in the original posts i will be quoting) if peeps want me too....

Basically MiasG is trying to avoid suspiscion by going away for a couple of days so that we don't lynch him. Not gonna wash mate, you're mafia aren't you :2guns:
No currieman I'm not mafia - but thanks for asking.  Are you ?

... the rule states if your away for more than 48 hours then let everyone know - I did that before the game started - plus mow it's on early I'm here - I'm not hiding and staying away for longer... you've missed a few games but the others can vouch for me that I'm always around and posting alot of shit  :D 
Having a kid didn't really slow me down that much last game. 


When did I ask if you were mafia ??? Trying a bit of misdirection are we? I see your game MiasG, you can't fool me. Fair play though, I believe that you aren't mafia.

Oh and I'm not mafia either, thanks for asking. The only way to figure who is and isn't is to point the finger and I reckon that Axeman is mafia ;)
the exchange and Curries responses just didnt make sense to me, theres just something not right about him, and my instincts are screaming out he is evil.

does that clear up your questions hippo? or do i have to waste more time answering them meaning i have less time to make my own investigations?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 05, 2008, 11:33:15 PM
ive just checked the forums running ok, posted a few things come back here, and its now half 11. great. I have to go bed, so the only person i have a negative vibe from is currieman, and this is based on something that was deleted...

so what can i do?
the only thing i can,
go with my instinct...
and VOTE CURRIEMAN
 :D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 06, 2008, 12:38:08 AM
actually it does still hold relevance, because... I dont usually talk about my private life over bloody forums but since this is a mafia game and you have to explain yourself here goes. lol
 A its the truth
 B Its been that long since ive been attached to anyone, that you cant blame me for not being around..
 C Ive not even been on my forum as ive barely been home, there is no internet access where ive been staying. If i have access and time, I post simple as.
 D Ive dropped her off at the pub with her friends, walked the dog and here i am... only ive now got 13 pages of stuff to read and try and abosrb stuff and then be in bed soon to get up for work at 5 in the morning and then i'll get home at 6pm... walk dog for an hour, and somehow do the stuff i need to do and go bed before 11 to go get up at 5 again... can someone explain how i'm supposed to find more time?
Ive not had a chance to play as anything have i(see above shit) but yes i am a townie, but everyone is going to say that anyway so what good does it do?

I was getting ready to post a "as soon as i mention you, you come out of hiding" response when i saw you'd posted, but this seems fair enough. It doesn't mean you're not mafia obviously, it just means you're slightly harder to read.

But well done   :)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 06, 2008, 01:26:10 AM
Quote from: Currieman on June 28, 2008, 16:06:44
When did I ask if you were mafia  Trying a bit of misdirection are we? I see your game MiasG, you can't fool me. Fair play though, I believe that you aren't mafia.

Oh and I'm not mafia either, thanks for asking. The only way to figure who is and isn't is to point the finger and I reckon that Axeman is mafia  I can't quote it properly due to restrictions but this is what I was getting at .. how in 3 posts is Currieman convinced that I'm townie?  I know I am, but surely the only way he could know is if he's mafia.  And that Mikeblue is why I voted for him early on.  It's your responses to me that keeps my vote on you.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 06, 2008, 02:34:07 AM
in mopheads defense..  we've been at the beach since thursday..  and I'm the only one who's dedicated (addicted) enough to check back while on vacation..  it's our place down here so we have wireless internet..  and between trips to and from the beach to get more beer.. i sometimes stop in and see whats going on.. 

i'll have mophead log in and try to catch up shortly.. he's only just out of the shower...  so.. 10 minutes and he'll be on.. 

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 06, 2008, 02:47:28 AM
Ok this is probably the only time that i will get on till tuesday. I was really bored and wanted to see who was picking up on it.
nothing was really happening at the moment so I decided to get things going and aperantly EVERYBODY DIDNT KNOW I WAS ON VACATION!!!!!
Plus I really think Amajindkgjlksnbcnvd ... or whatever it is.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 06, 2008, 10:07:23 AM
Ok this is probably the only time that i will get on till tuesday. I was really bored and wanted to see who was picking up on it.
nothing was really happening at the moment so I decided to get things going and aperantly EVERYBODY DIDNT KNOW I WAS ON VACATION!!!!!
Plus I really think Amajindkgjlksnbcnvd ... or whatever it is.

Finally he comes out to defend himself but it still doesn't change my vote. In england we call it a holiday ;D, and I think you got on the bad side of Amadjin there lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 06, 2008, 12:01:55 PM
this day could go on for ever can we have a deadline and some of the non posters post footballnewbie hammerbro
another pointless post from mophead but this is how he as played everygame and been both town and mafia
bluestars still waiting on your defence i know your on holiday but steven and mophead have posted
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 06, 2008, 12:23:22 PM
this day could go on for ever can we have a deadline and some of the non posters post footballnewbie hammerbro
another pointless post from mophead but this is how he as played everygame and been both town and mafia
bluestars still waiting on your defence i know your on holiday but steven and mophead have posted

The sooner we get bluestars out the better IMO as she has a big role in this one and the town will suffer the longer shes in the game. Its hard to find evil from day one and normaly a towine gets lynched first, but bluestars unusual change in style is obvious for all to see.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 06, 2008, 01:21:55 PM
Ok this is probably the only time that i will get on till tuesday. I was really bored and wanted to see who was picking up on it.
nothing was really happening at the moment so I decided to get things going and aperantly EVERYBODY DIDNT KNOW I WAS ON VACATION!!!!!
Plus I really think Amajindkgjlksnbcnvd ... or whatever it is.

what do you think???
no need to be a cock like....steve said you'd be online and you still dont really provide a good reason for anything,added to the mafia post you made and no real defense to it.

unvote bluestars,vote mophead A. for being a cock
                                                    B. for the loosest excuse for posting the way you did.....
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 06, 2008, 01:32:12 PM
ok so hammerbro is away & I suppose axeman has a good excuse ...
Wes has been back on but what about svh .. can anyone remember if he said he was busy?  

At least mophead has been on.. but afraid not doing anything to convince me he's innocent .. other than that it will be interesting to hear what bluestars has to say .. when she gets back from vacation?

& have I got this right .... steve & bluestars have a beachside holiday home in malibu....  ???

someone just posted .. damn

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 06, 2008, 01:45:39 PM
what do you think???
no need to be a cock like....steve said you'd be online and you still dont really provide a good reason for anything,added to the mafia post you made and no real defense to it.

unvote bluestars,vote mophead A. for being a cock
                                                    B. for the loosest excuse for posting the way you did.....

Amadjin youre biggest cock up so far mate it you and bluestars are mafia. You unvote bluestars for mophead you tried to confuse us in voting for bluestars at first and i was waiting for you to do this, you two are so sus its untrue.

FOS Bluestars and Amadjin  >:D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 06, 2008, 02:03:41 PM
bloody hell Wes your on the angry pills .. I don't know what to make of Bluestars and I'm suss on Amadjin but all your posts are very agressive and sure that people are def mafia.  I agree with Amadjin in that mopheads post as a response is just ridiculous.  What I don't get is how you link him with Bluestars for changing his vote to mophead.  Are you convinced mophead is townie?  because I sure can't see how he is or isn't right now.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 06, 2008, 02:20:33 PM
bloody hell Wes your on the angry pills .. I don't know what to make of Bluestars and I'm suss on Amadjin but all your posts are very agressive and sure that people are def mafia.  I agree with Amadjin in that mopheads post as a response is just ridiculous.  What I don't get is how you link him with Bluestars for changing his vote to mophead.  Are you convinced mophead is townie?  because I sure can't see how he is or isn't right now.

No im not convinced mophead is townie but what i can say is that mophead is always an easy target and if we lynch him and he is townie then day one has been a failure. Bluestars needs to come out and convince us all shes good and Amadjin is looking more sus unvoting bluestars and jumping on the vote mophead bandwagon. Currieman, bluestars and Amadjin are all sus to me and we should all keep an eye on them.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 06, 2008, 03:16:33 PM
Right, can people stop referring to bandwagons? We most definitely have not had one yet. It takes 10 votes to get a lynch, and we're nowhere near that for anyone. There has been no quick flurry of votes for anyone, not more than 2 votes anyway. Mentioning how suspicious it is when somebody gets to about 3 votes and calling it a bandwagon is not helping anything - it just stops the voting dead, because townies voting for suspicious people become the ones accused for no apparent reason. The mafia sit back and don't get involved in the voting for precisely this reason.

Let's face it, if we can't lynch somebody today without a deadline, considering 4 people have typed that they are mafia, then people will never vote for anybody, and the game won't end.

Do people not agree with what i'm saying about mophead, stevenryals and mikeblue? Everybody seems to have accepted that amadjin's slip up was a joke, which i find a bizarre thing to accept but fair enough. One of the three that did it after were a mafia member being opportunistic. Surely people must see this? They saw a chance, amidst all of the arguing about amadjin's initial post, and went for it.

Mikeblue's on that list, he has the most votes, so with a view to the game going somewhere, i'm going to vote for him. But let's just say, i don't accept what amadjin said, i don't accept mopheads defense, and though stevenryals may appear townlike, he is actually a good player, so i'm not going to trust that he wasn't doing exactly the same as the others.

unvote mophead
vote mikeblue
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 06, 2008, 04:37:36 PM
This is a hard one as mophead could just be acting daft rather than evil ... but I want to force him to make posts so we can at least try to sus him out ...
I may change my vote yet but I want to hear what bluestars has to say when she returns...
I don't know about amadjin yet....he has not played for a while & I can't remember his usual style.. I think it was a bit jokey then...but depending on what happens ..the end of day one may reveal a bit more about him.
I've no real reason to suspect currie in this game... but from what I remember from previous games he is good at  looking town when he may not be.
Mikes last posts did smack of a mafia member under pressure & looking for a way out .. but like I have said before about mike .. I was in the mafia last game & watched mike make his self look suspicious & get voted of first without anybody's help.. so I'm not so sure  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 06, 2008, 09:06:38 PM
Right, can people stop referring to bandwagons? We most definitely have not had one yet. It takes 10 votes to get a lynch, and we're nowhere near that for anyone. There has been no quick flurry of votes for anyone, not more than 2 votes anyway. Mentioning how suspicious it is when somebody gets to about 3 votes and calling it a bandwagon is not helping anything - it just stops the voting dead, because townies voting for suspicious people become the ones accused for no apparent reason. The mafia sit back and don't get involved in the voting for precisely this reason.

Let's face it, if we can't lynch somebody today without a deadline, considering 4 people have typed that they are mafia, then people will never vote for anybody, and the game won't end.

Do people not agree with what i'm saying about mophead, stevenryals and mikeblue? Everybody seems to have accepted that amadjin's slip up was a joke, which i find a bizarre thing to accept but fair enough. One of the three that did it after were a mafia member being opportunistic. Surely people must see this? They saw a chance, amidst all of the arguing about amadjin's initial post, and went for it.

Mikeblue's on that list, he has the most votes, so with a view to the game going somewhere, i'm going to vote for him. But let's just say, i don't accept what amadjin said, i don't accept mopheads defense, and though stevenryals may appear townlike, he is actually a good player, so i'm not going to trust that he wasn't doing exactly the same as the others.

unvote mophead
vote mikeblue


your heading down the wrong path again mate
i agree with the underlined statement yes,but your guessing is slightly out
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 06, 2008, 11:58:45 PM
It's funny that 2 of the 3 people you work with are according to you mafia .. but the one who hasn't even posted is probably townie !  go figure.  it makes no sense.  your just trying to get people to vote for me ... again .. and also listing TCH as the only possible godfather - why only him - and why godfather? .. and me for changing the way I play .. I was away for 3 days :clown: and all your doing is making me go at you again .. like previous games .. I think it's funny that I get emails from you prompting me to log on and respond to something against me .. once again you are not helping the town .. and seeing how you away for a week your still no help.

You are an idiot and after re-reading 12 pages you vote on percentages according to roles in previous games ?  :crazy2:

If you "were" innocent you wouldnt have responded so defensively  :swear: :blonde: :cowboy: and my vote wasnt based just on those percentages, it was a combination of looking at that, who people have defended and what roles I believe others have.  It also seems that you are possibly in cahoots with Bluestars trying to do the typicaly TP talking rubish, but not this time chump if she is evil your definatley evil as well, I will pick up a new shovel for you while im in Melbourne.... I really cant wait for you to respond
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 07, 2008, 12:06:37 AM
Basically after finishing my exams I have started working full time for the summer and since my girlfriend has finished her year in industry she  has had to find work too which she has done in the Prince of Wales in Cardiff. Because our shifts have conflicted I have been trying to spend time with her when I can which means not going online as much as normal which is probably at least an hour a day. Sometimes when I have come online hardly anything has been added so I have had nothing to comment on but on other occassions there has been a few pages to get through which I havent had time to read thoroughly.

I apologise to everyone for this and will post as often as I can if there is something for me to post on.


I think steveryals is innocent. Axeman is normally the first to pick up on him if he is mafia and steve has admitted himself that he is no good as mafia.

This deleted currieman post looks dodgy and is a clear abuse of admin privileges!! Its HA's site so I guess he can do whatever the hell he feels like.

Why does everyone suspect mikeblue on the first day?!

A few others have yet to slip up or hint at good town roles so we are still guessing

Mophead is being his usual nutty self (Amadjin - the kid is 11 and you have a kid of your own, leave the abuse out eh?)

Starting to think that a few people have been right about bluestars and I have heard nothing from her or anyone else to think otherwise.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 07, 2008, 12:23:46 AM
Am curious as to where this so called evidence against me is??? Its the first day its all just guess work and opinions. I have no problem with you coming out and saying "I think Mikeblue is evil" but to say " I think he is Mafia because of the evidence" is trying to justify your reasoning with actually no facts.


Well here is some of it that I noted down in my spread sheet;
First of all you have been posting absolute shite over about 3 -4 pages talking about gingers avoiding the game and waisting my time reading about it !
you fos TCH for hiding his identity then you go ask how you can do it yourself back on page 4
Then I think it was curriemans post "Obviously posting is a good thing but some of the stuff he posted just seemed a bit random and didn't really have any relevance."
then you start writing like a mophead making no sense claiming BS about being godfather etc.. seems way to random for a townie though I could see that under pressure you could possibly crack like MIASG in a mafia game  :laugh:


Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 07, 2008, 12:25:25 AM
Didn't like me calling you out pal???

So you go straight for the tit for tat vote...mmmmm...inte resting.

what else should we expect  ???

FOS : MIASG for the next day phase vote
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 07, 2008, 12:32:58 AM
Been very quiet over there Tommy???

Any reason for this or you just too valuable to the mafia to draw any attention to yourself at this stage cause you sure as hell arn't helping the town.

thats exactly what im thinking Mike, TCH isnt the type of person to hang back unless he either has something to hide, ie mafia godfather, or some other special role, though if he was a townie with a special role he would be trying to provoke responses but since he has done nothing, its probably because "he doesnt have to do anything until the night phase" now isnt that right TCH... I will get MIASG to deliver you some donuts to your desk when you get back tomorrow since he is obviously one of your low level minion's...  O0
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 07, 2008, 12:43:57 AM
It's funny that 2 of the 3 people you work with are according to you mafia .. but the one who hasn't even posted is probably townie !  go figure.  it makes no sense.  your just trying to get people to vote for me ... again .. and also listing TCH as the only possible godfather - why only him - and why godfather? .. and me for changing the way I play .. I was away for 3 days :clown: and all your doing is making me go at you again .. like previous games .. I think it's funny that I get emails from you prompting me to log on and respond to something against me .. once again you are not helping the town .. and seeing how you away for a week your still no help.

You are an idiot and after re-reading 12 pages you vote on percentages according to roles in previous games ?  :crazy2:

wow your either blind or Mafia, i know your not blind so ....

I was trying to work out why you havent picked up on TCH being ever so quiet. So the only explanation is either he is townie trying to stay under the radar though if that was the case and the two of you were on either side ie townie and mafia or vice versa eitehr of you would have picked each other up on that, though since you both didnt you are in cahoots, you could possibly be masons but that chance of you two being masons would be alot lower than the chance of you two being mafia so I say your mafia, stop trying to discard it as rubish simply because you have nothing else to offer, I know you can do better than that so I suggest you try...  >:D  :blonde: :cowboy:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 07, 2008, 12:50:41 AM
You're mafia mate..  you're trying WAAAAY too hard to seem like your town..  waaay too hard..


then you do this:

you've basically repeated me..  you're making big posts to seem like your town.. but you're just regurgitating the same stuff other people have said..

FOS Trick PONY

OK.. so Trick Pony & Amadjin are surely mafia.. anyone else?

Steve where else are we ment to get the info, I guess from another forum then ??? im not going to re-write it again when you have already said it as you would point that out as being regurgitated as well. Though why are you defending Bluestars  ??? you attack her now your defending her make up your mind
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 07, 2008, 12:59:14 AM
The sooner we get bluestars out the better IMO as she has a big role in this one and the town will suffer the longer shes in the game. Its hard to find evil from day one and normaly a towine gets lynched first, but bluestars unusual change in style is obvious for all to see.

I really cant believe how obvious it is. Though MIASG etc are trying hard to have my post disgarded as rubish its only going to sink them later in the game when everyone finds out that she is  >:D so MIASG etc on the defensive bandwagon I suggest you be careful as your already linked with 3 of the main targets in the game, so if on is evil the rest of you probably are as well
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 07, 2008, 01:20:38 AM
Basically after finishing my exams I have started working full time for the summer and since my girlfriend has finished her year in industry she  has had to find work too which she has done in the Prince of Wales in Cardiff. Because our shifts have conflicted I have been trying to spend time with her when I can which means not going online as much as normal which is probably at least an hour a day. Sometimes when I have come online hardly anything has been added so I have had nothing to comment on but on other occassions there has been a few pages to get through which I havent had time to read thoroughly.

I apologise to everyone for this and will post as often as I can if there is something for me to post on.


I think steveryals is innocent. Axeman is normally the first to pick up on him if he is mafia and steve has admitted himself that he is no good as mafia.

This deleted currieman post looks dodgy and is a clear abuse of admin privileges!! Its HA's site so I guess he can do whatever the hell he feels like.

Why does everyone suspect mikeblue on the first day?!

A few others have yet to slip up or hint at good town roles so we are still guessing

Mophead is being his usual nutty self (Amadjin - the kid is 11 and you have a kid of your own, leave the abuse out eh?)

Starting to think that a few people have been right about bluestars and I have heard nothing from her or anyone else to think otherwise.



Yeah i agree SVH though im still waiting on Bluestars to reply. I guess i will give her some time so lets say a week  ??? Well i am heading to Melbourne tomorrow, and at this stage im pretty confident that day one will still be on going as we cant get anything happening, im sure MIASG will try to focus on me while im away, though he never pointed out that I told everyone that he was going away... so another thing to go against you their MIASG. You have been mafia too many times MIASG and your slipping up big time. I hope your townie again soon miasg as you game it getting so so old.  :laugh:  :laugh:   :laugh: geeze I enjoy seeing you out in the open with no where to go, though I have seen you lie your way through the second last game to win for the mafia so nothing really surprises me these days
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 07, 2008, 01:55:40 AM
"you game it " i ment to say "your game is" just so miasg has nothing to read into since I now cant reply until i get back untill next Monday, and no im not logging into a internet cafe while im away its called a holiday for a reason miasg  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 07, 2008, 02:57:33 AM
Steve where else are we ment to get the info, I guess from another forum then ??? im not going to re-write it again when you have already said it as you would point that out as being regurgitated as well. Though why are you defending Bluestars  ??? you attack her now your defending her make up your mind

Steve where else are we ment to get the info, I guess from another forum then ??? im not going to re-write it again when you have already said it as you would point that out as being regurgitated as well. Though why are you defending Bluestars  ??? you attack her now your defending her make up your mind



see what I did?  right there?? did you see it?  I repeated what you said..  isn't that helpful??  NO IT ISNT..  you copy everyone in this game to try to seem helpful.. you're mafia mate.. it's too easy..  you, amadjin, TCH & Mikie are all evil as sin.. 

well..  lets see..  who will you repeat now to seem like you're being all 'pro town' and whatnot?  no ideas of your own = mafia..  you get to seem helpful when you're really not going to ever get under anyones skin (except MIASG) because they're other peoples ideas..

I still say Amadjin is the way to go for day one..  so.. vote stands.. off to bed for me
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Dickens Cider on July 07, 2008, 03:09:50 AM
Hi everybody....
*Hi Dr Nick*

Sorry for my absence... as you know... i've just been trying to fly under the radar and survive the first day...
haha... no no... have just been having net issues at home, but have fixed them now and finally got on to read the 15 pages of day 1... When does this day finish ? no time limit ?

Yet again I see TP is posting alot of senseless crap!! and attacking only the people he knows in person... but i guess we have to come to accept that from the poor kid... it seems its the only style of play he knows :P
which is bad in the sense that he always looks evil... even when hes not !

I have not had time to completely catch up with everything... just the last few pages...
So I will continue to read through it and see what I come up with...
Good to see MIASG has another enemy in Amadjin :) he'll be loving it !!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 07, 2008, 03:49:35 AM
Steve where else are we ment to get the info, I guess from another forum then ??? im not going to re-write it again when you have already said it as you would point that out as being regurgitated as well. Though why are you defending Bluestars  ??? you attack her now your defending her make up your mind



see what I did?  right there?? did you see it?  I repeated what you said..  isn't that helpful??  NO IT ISNT..  you copy everyone in this game to try to seem helpful.. you're mafia mate.. it's too easy..  you, amadjin, TCH & Mikie are all evil as sin.. 

well..  lets see..  who will you repeat now to seem like you're being all 'pro town' and whatnot?  no ideas of your own = mafia..  you get to seem helpful when you're really not going to ever get under anyones skin (except MIASG) because they're other peoples ideas..

I still say Amadjin is the way to go for day one..  so.. vote stands.. off to bed for me

Ok Steve, so let me get this straight once and for all...

We should all have different opinions about everything and get no where... total bs whats the point in playing when your not ment to say anything similar or have the same opinion as someone else about something ??? we wont get any where. The point of agreeing with someone is to show what you are thinking, I post when I dont agree with something so whats the difference when it comes to agreeing ??? It must be that you have no opinion of your own and you should just sit back like all of the non-posters doing nothing that way you cant get accused of having no opinion of your own >:( wow you really though about that. 

The prime suspects atm for mafia from "MY OPINION" are miasg, bluestars, TCH, Steveryals, and mophead, because they are defensive towards each other, and from the way generally have interacted with each other in the posts, then you have the other two who dont post like TCH and mophead who also dont contribute anything relevant, making the "im here posts".

Its already been a week and with no deadline this game is going to go on for days and days and days... kinda killing the enjoyment of the game. There should be a deadline to keep things moving as everyone changes their votes at the last minute as normal anyway so we are just waisting time at the moment. 


Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 07, 2008, 05:48:29 AM
well 15 pages in and Fnewb appears yay !! Well once you post some more i'll remove my vote from you. 

I don't really need to post as Trick Pony for some reason seems to be answering for me, you don't have to be nice to the boss out of work  ;) Also as you have never seen me play the game you cannot comment with any accuracy on how i play the game. With you now going away and trying to link miasg and myself seems rather silly as you will only alienate yourself with both of us which if you are a townie will not help the town cause later in the game.

I feel that a deadline might be required as getting everyone to agree and reach 10 votes is going to be a tall ask and we could still be on day one in another 15 pages. Once the first day is over it's then easier to look at whp voted who to root out the mafia.

No one as yet i can 100% say is evil and i'd be guessing if i changed my vote to someone else. The only slip i thought was Currieman's in the posts that were deleted at the start. If i have something to say then i post it but the last 2-3 days nothing has really happened apart from Steve and family have gone to the beach, Amadjin is being quite confronational with his posts and TP and miasg are once again arguing like 5 year olds.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 07, 2008, 08:45:24 AM
.... I really cant wait for you to respond
= :clown: aka  >:D

go away so i can concentrate on the game and not have to repeat myself to you or defend stupid remarks
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 07, 2008, 09:00:57 AM
just since the 4th July Trick Pony has me mentioned in his posts like 28 times .. wow that must be a record.  And all for what?  to FOs me tomorrow?  he's pretty sure he'll be around isn't he ..

where have I defended Bluestars? I'm pretty sure I agreed she's a bit diff but she hasn't been on lately.  So I haven't mentioned I think TCH is being quiet?  do I have to tell you everything?  and by the way I notice you've changed your profile to hidden .. I still think its a nighttime trait to do so ..

I also like the fact that your trying to use some sort of reverse psychology so if I attack you I'll look evil, and if I don't you might stay under the radar.  Once again you are no hope to us, so why should we not vote for you. 

@Footynoob - nice post but I agree with TCH that you need to post a little more .. your jokey post is something others were doing many pages ago it it didn't wash then ..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 07, 2008, 11:12:37 AM
Steve where else are we ment to get the info, I guess from another forum then ??? im not going to re-write it again when you have already said it as you would point that out as being regurgitated as well. Though why are you defending Bluestars  ??? you attack her now your defending her make up your mind



see what I did?  right there?? did you see it?  I repeated what you said..  isn't that helpful??  NO IT ISNT..  you copy everyone in this game to try to seem helpful.. you're mafia mate.. it's too easy..  you, amadjin, TCH & Mikie are all evil as sin.. 

well..  lets see..  who will you repeat now to seem like you're being all 'pro town' and whatnot?  no ideas of your own = mafia..  you get to seem helpful when you're really not going to ever get under anyones skin (except MIASG) because they're other peoples ideas..

I still say Amadjin is the way to go for day one..  so.. vote stands.. off to bed for me

your complete ignorance to my replies and the fact your now only mentioning me at the end of posts to 'emphasise' your vote for me are just pointing out your true alignment.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 07, 2008, 12:19:34 PM
Steve where else are we ment to get the info, I guess from another forum then ??? im not going to re-write it again when you have already said it as you would point that out as being regurgitated as well. Though why are you defending Bluestars  ??? you attack her now your defending her make up your mind



see what I did?  right there?? did you see it?  I repeated what you said..  isn't that helpful??  NO IT ISNT..  you copy everyone in this game to try to seem helpful.. you're mafia mate.. it's too easy..  you, amadjin, TCH & Mikie are all evil as sin.. 

well..  lets see..  who will you repeat now to seem like you're being all 'pro town' and whatnot?  no ideas of your own = mafia..  you get to seem helpful when you're really not going to ever get under anyones skin (except MIASG) because they're other peoples ideas..

I still say Amadjin is the way to go for day one..  so.. vote stands.. off to bed for me

I see what you did there. You tried to bypass answering the point about how you were 100% on bluestars being evil at one point, and now you don't even mention her as a possible evil.

You were absolutely convinced, and went out on a full-on attack (with good reasons) at the start. She doesn't give a satisfactory response and tries quickly to rectify the problem by going back to her old style, which completely contradicted her "i'm too busy" stuff. And what? That's it? You've completely bought that? Why would you be so strong in your attacks to start with, and then completely abandon them when the votes start to actually matter towards the end of the day? To throw everyone off?

I think she's blatantly mafia. The only reason she doesn't have my vote is this thing i can't get over, whereby i'm certain that one of those 4 people who claimed mafia weren't lying. I know for certain i'd have been straight in there after a few people had done it, just to see if i could get away with it, if i'd been evil in this game. Maybe that's what you're doing? I'm certain it's what mophead was doing, and mike's attempt was probably the best disguised, but it still stunk of evil.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 07, 2008, 01:30:38 PM
Ok Steve, so let me get this straight once and for all...
The prime suspects atm for mafia from "MY OPINION" are miasg, bluestars, TCH, Steveryals, and mophead, because they are defensive towards each other, and from the way generally have interacted with each other in the posts, then you have the other two who dont post like TCH and mophead who also dont contribute anything relevant, making the "im here posts".


Funny how I pop on your list after putting pressure on you eh? 

what happened to this?

Now comment within 48 hours so I can respond before I head off for a week  :)

SteveRyals - townie

here's my point TP..  you read through and do thi:

Yeah i agree SVH

thats exactly what im thinking Mike

Although I dont like to admit it I would have to agree with you Bluestars


anyone else you want to hide behind TP?

now, these are just the obvious "agree with" comments..  I couldnt be arsed to go back and post all the crap that you stole from someone else. 


Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 07, 2008, 01:49:16 PM
Steven stop hogging the laptop and get mophead and bluestars a go ! and how did you find 3 quotes from TP that doesn't have my name in it  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 07, 2008, 01:54:12 PM
Ok who's put there profile in hidden mode ? sometimes I'll try to stay on if I can see one of us looking at the boards especially if I'm waiting for an answer .. now some unknown hidden person is here but who?  I think it stinks of evilness myself - a bit like the no lynch debate - but it should probably be 1 in all in - for all future games. 

Players (In order of Sign-Up)
stevenryals
hippo
TCH
Miasg - no
Trick Pony
HappyAxeman
Bluestarsneyes
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Footballnewb
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Laserblue
Afroboy
Currieman
Amadjin

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 07, 2008, 02:18:10 PM
This game/days is dragging now, we need a limit. I also dont like players to be hidden is all suss to me FOS hidden peeps
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 07, 2008, 03:07:04 PM
Is anyone else seeing through Amadjins crap? :-\

And besides, my post was just a little joke to get things moving.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 07, 2008, 03:57:11 PM
mophead,i call you out and the best you can come up with is that????

]quote author=mophead link=topic=10109.msg114363#msg114363 date=1215439624]

Is anyone else seeing through Amadjins crap? :-\

And besides, my post was just a little joke to get things moving.
[/quote]

what crap is that??
the crap where iv called people out to see what there responses were,or the analysing of what people are saying and to whom?
this compared to your complete lack of gameplay,your mention of mafia or transparent responses to peoples claims about you

and steve you yet again ignored what i'd said....if it wasnt for mophead playing an even looser game than you,you'd be top of my suspect list
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 07, 2008, 04:17:06 PM
and steve you yet again ignored what i'd said....if it wasnt for mophead playing an even looser game than you,you'd be top of my suspect list

what'd you say amadjin?  give me a link.. i read the last 7 pages or so this weekend with a hefty buzz... 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 07, 2008, 05:12:51 PM
I'd just like to point out that:

a) amadjin did exactly the same as what mophead did
b) amadjin gave exactly the same defense to it, i.e. saying it was a joke
c) amadjin reckons the actions of mophead are clear signs of being mafia

I'll leave it with you all.

For the record, i suspect both of them pretty strongly. But you should already know that.

Oh, and Steven, you've also not responded to:

I see what you did there. You tried to bypass answering the point about how you were 100% on bluestars being evil at one point, and now you don't even mention her as a possible evil.

You were absolutely convinced, and went out on a full-on attack (with good reasons) at the start. She doesn't give a satisfactory response and tries quickly to rectify the problem by going back to her old style, which completely contradicted her "i'm too busy" stuff. And what? That's it? You've completely bought that? Why would you be so strong in your attacks to start with, and then completely abandon them when the votes start to actually matter towards the end of the day? To throw everyone off?

I think she's blatantly mafia. The only reason she doesn't have my vote is this thing i can't get over, whereby i'm certain that one of those 4 people who claimed mafia weren't lying. I know for certain i'd have been straight in there after a few people had done it, just to see if i could get away with it, if i'd been evil in this game. Maybe that's what you're doing? I'm certain it's what mophead was doing, and mike's attempt was probably the best disguised, but it still stunk of evil.

If you had something to say about it. It's alright if you don't. Not sure how you'd have missed it, considering you made the post directly after it, so i guess you were just trying to avoid it?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 07, 2008, 05:21:46 PM
I've said it before..  I think it's clear at this point to everyone that she has a role with some action..  looking at past games, she's never had that.. normal townie, normal townie & mason.. so her change in style could be a result of her being mafia or her being a pro town role..  I've said we should go after Amadjin first and then look back to bluestars tomorrow plenty of times.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 07, 2008, 06:14:43 PM
mophead,i call you out and the best you can come up with is that????

]quote author=mophead link=topic=10109.msg114363#msg114363 date=1215439624]

Is anyone else seeing through Amadjins crap? :-\

And besides, my post was just a little joke to get things moving.


what crap is that??
the crap where iv called people out to see what there responses were,or the analysing of what people are saying and to whom?
this compared to your complete lack of gameplay,your mention of mafia or transparent responses to peoples claims about you

and steve you yet again ignored what i'd said....if it wasnt for mophead playing an even looser game than you,you'd be top of my suspect list

MY MENTION OF MAFIA! YOU SAID IT TWICE IN ONE POST!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( :moon2: :thmbdn: :lac: :annoyed: :naughty: :mad:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 07, 2008, 06:31:42 PM
MY MENTION OF MAFIA! YOU SAID IT TWICE IN ONE POST!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( :moon2: :thmbdn: :lac: :annoyed: :naughty: :mad:

oh my (*@*#$@#*)!#)!#*%)!(@#&*$    you frustrate me mophead..  i figure you're innocent.. but you're not doing yourself any favors..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 07, 2008, 07:03:53 PM
What are you talking about Steve?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 07, 2008, 07:39:28 PM
what do I mean?

1) you dont usually make much sense when you post..
2) you post very little which doesnt help the town at all
3) you're making it an easy first day for the mafia, because they're voting for you and you're not defending yourself properly..  you've been evil most every game you've played so far, and i can just tell (just like when you were beast in the xmen game) that you couldnt be bothered to play this game..  you're not reading all the posts, and you're not stepping up and challenging people..

get in mophead..  get started... if you're town, help out...  you're not helping yourself by the way your playing, you'll end up getting lynched.. and then it's night, and we'll lose another one or two townies.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 07, 2008, 07:50:07 PM
the way its going we are going to lose a townie today regardless

iv noticed something about your last post,because you know him and he's coming across evil,your encouraging him to come across less evil regardless of wether hes evil or not. sounds to me like you two are on the same team and know it  ::)

fos steveryals and mophead

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 07, 2008, 09:04:26 PM
the way its going we are going to lose a townie today regardless

iv noticed something about your last post,because you know him and he's coming across evil,your encouraging him to come across less evil regardless of wether hes evil or not. sounds to me like you two are on the same team and know it  ::)

fos steveryals and mophead

your reaching amadjin..  big stretch there.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 07, 2008, 09:27:10 PM
Think hammer should be back soon, but as he's not yet, i'll do his work for him.

Vote Count

amadjin 2 (stevenryals, Steve Van halen)
mikeblue 6 (hammerbro, mophead, Currieman, Yorkshire Blue, Miasg, Hippo)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
bluestars 2 (wesmancity, Trickpony)
Yorkshire Blue 1 (Mikeblue)
Mophead 3 ( Afroboy, Laserblue, Amadjin)
Currieman 1 (Happy Axeman)

Yet to vote: Footballnewb and Bluestars


Footballnewb and bluestars both not voting is something i'm not keen on. Fair enough footynewb's had his internet connection problems, but bluestars has been active enough to actually vote.

But it's not just those 2 that are making this drag on. TCH, Mikeblue and Happy Axeman all have votes placed on people that, as far as i can see, have nothing incriminating against them - that's not to say they might not be evil, but in terms of voting for a lynch, there's just no point to it. A hunch is never going to get 9 other people to agree and end the day. To me, voting like this is a way of keeping under the radar - you're seen to be doing something, but you're having absolutely no impact on the day and there's going to be absolutely no consequences from it because the person you've voted for isn't going to be lynched.

Amadjin, Mikeblue, mophead and bluestars seem to be the people that are the most suspected, and all four have decent arguments against them. Might make sense for everyone to just vote for one of them? Or at least put forward a proper argument for somebody else, that other people can understand.

Or maybe if we all post our top 3 suspicions, and then agree to lynch whoevers name comes up the most or something? Seems like the only way we might get a decision that 10 people can agree is best for the town.

I don't think we'll get a deadline, Hammer likes the game to be played properly and to a natural conclusion.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 07, 2008, 10:25:23 PM
am knackered and need to go bed, Ive only read from where i last posted(i will catch up eventually)...

This deleted currieman post looks dodgy and is a clear abuse of admin privileges!! Its HA's site so I guess he can do whatever the hell he feels like.
seems strange your the only one complaining, are you in cahoots with Currieman perhaps?

Amadjin has come back and shown he is still a player who always smacks of evil, but is on occasion TOWN... Same as mikeblue really.

Ive not had the oppourtunity properly to see if anyone has made any cockup early in the game through my time constraints, but Curriemans to me sticks out like a sore thumb... I'm usually good(and successfull) at picking the mistake out early on in the first day.

It seems strange that StevenRyals is defending Bluestars, cause her style has deffo changed. She doesnt seem pro-town.

Trickpony is annoying with his endless consectutive posts... just stick your findings in one post for christ sake... use quick reply for grabbing quotes, copy & paste... use a bit of effort.
Ok who's put there profile in hidden mode ? sometimes I'll try to stay on if I can see one of us looking at the boards especially if I'm waiting for an answer .. now some unknown hidden person is here but who?  I think it stinks of evilness myself - a bit like the no lynch debate - but it should probably be 1 in all in - for all future games. 
there is now no need to be hidden as far as i can see, as ive turned the who's online feature off, in fact i turned it off about a week ago...
so yeah, I agree that going hidden recently does smell of mafia... being ADMIN, no one stays hidden to me!!! they appear in itallic, although I can not go hidden either... StevenRyals is hidden...

I havent read enough of mikeblues posts to see why so many have voted for him, and i  dont think its fair to vote on someone who i read about. so my lonely vote on Currieman is going to stay. I am tempted by Amadjin, but Steven and Steve have voted for him... then theres Mophead, but Amadjin has voted him...

so there you have it, my suspects for mafia/evil from my minimal mafia interaction is Amadjin, SteveRyals, Steve Van Halen, Currieman, Bluestars.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 07, 2008, 11:26:43 PM
It seems strange that StevenRyals is defending Bluestars, cause her style has deffo changed. She doesnt seem pro-town.

not defending... why do people say I'm defending her?  I've clearly said we shouldnt lynch her TODAY...  amadjin for today..   I'm almost sure that even if she was the cop or the doctor, she wouldnt know how to act.. which may contribute to her acting so different..   as I've said over and over again...  we should re-evaluate her tomorrow based on the nights actions..

I've been stead throughout about Amadjin, my vote was cast and it's stayed there.. i'm that sure... 

do what you will... but I'm sticking with Amadjin..  if you want reasons.. read the last 50 posts i've made in this game, it's all there.. along with me explaining why i'm hesitant about bluestars..

maybe i'll have some time at work tomorrow to go back and compile some quotes and stuff to help get this day to a close..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 08, 2008, 03:30:15 AM
we should re-evaluate her tomorrow based on the nights actions..
how will we know A) if she has a night action B)if it's town or mafia

Hippo I disagree with your comment that Happy Axeman's vote is wasted on Currieman  .. A few of us are suss on him for his early post that got wiped.  I'm actually tossing up if I should unvote mikeblue and vote currieman or keep my vote on him .. I'm still uneasy on some of his responses especially to me so for now it's holding but just.  He isn't convincing me he's town. 

The only way not to lose a townie on day 1 is vote no-lynch and we know that just helps the mafia .. the majority of us have to spot the mafia and get him despite others attempts to lead us away - that's the struggle for us with no time limit.  So who's leading us away ?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 07:30:41 AM
not defending... why do people say I'm defending her?  I've clearly said we shouldnt lynch her TODAY...  amadjin for today..   I'm almost sure that even if she was the cop or the doctor, she wouldnt know how to act.. which may contribute to her acting so different..   as I've said over and over again...  we should re-evaluate her tomorrow based on the nights actions..

I've been stead throughout about Amadjin, my vote was cast and it's stayed there.. i'm that sure... 

do what you will... but I'm sticking with Amadjin..  if you want reasons.. read the last 50 posts i've made in this game, it's all there.. along with me explaining why i'm hesitant about bluestars..

maybe i'll have some time at work tomorrow to go back and compile some quotes and stuff to help get this day to a close..

and if your wrong which i 100% know you are about me,you have to be lynched tomorrow and have me for company in the graveyard,'im that sure'.anyway it looks like being as soon as lynching today is over il be dead anyways,and by that i dont mean night phase...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 08, 2008, 08:36:21 AM
Amadjin what do you mean by this ?
anyway it looks like being as soon as lynching today is over il be dead anyways,and by that i dont mean night phase...
you only have 2 votes against you so far .. a bit far fetched don't you think
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 08:40:45 AM
Amadjin what do you mean by this ?  you only have 2 votes against you so far .. a bit far fetched don't you think

if id said,its because im going to be lynched id have wirtten that wouldnt i
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 08, 2008, 10:29:16 AM
If you don't mean night phase, and you don't mean you're going to get lynched, what exactly are you on about?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 10:47:46 AM
if someone dies,i die too,wether or not that person is evil i dont know,but i am innocent,so it might make sense to keep that person in the game a little longer,at least til we work out alignment.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 08, 2008, 11:44:54 AM
MY MENTION OF MAFIA! YOU SAID IT TWICE IN ONE POST!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( :moon2: :thmbdn: :lac: :annoyed: :naughty: :mad:
what are your thoughts mophead please post something useful
my main two suspects have gone into hiding (bluestars, mikeblue)
if we lynch amadjin and hes town then hippo or stevenryals as to be mafia
where are bluestars, mikeblue, hammerbro, footballnewbie
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 08, 2008, 11:48:02 AM
if someone dies,i die too,wether or not that person is evil i dont know,but i am innocent,so it might make sense to keep that person in the game a little longer,at least til we work out alignment.
WTF are you on about ?  are you saying that your character is tied in with another ?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 11:56:19 AM
 :yeah: my god,did something finally sink in...
now if you look back over the last few pages at my posts iv basically said this and who i am infact tied to
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 12:16:13 PM
anyway it looks like being as soon as lynching today is over il be dead anyways,and by that i dont mean night phase...

terrorist action?  what are you claiming here amadjin?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 12:18:08 PM
if someone dies,i die too,wether or not that person is evil i dont know,but i am innocent,so it might make sense to keep that person in the game a little longer,at least til we work out alignment.

forget that last post..  shoulda read..

i'm a bit confused here..  gotta let this sink in...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 12:19:59 PM
:yeah: my god,did something finally sink in...
now if you look back over the last few pages at my posts iv basically said this and who i am infact tied to

it's obvious who you're talking about.. 
i'm confused..
gonna go have my coffee adn get back to this after I get to work in a few...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 12:24:27 PM
if it continues this way,we can look at it in one of 3 ways

lynch said person,turns out to be mafia godfather,we win allround even though i die
lynch said person,turns out to be mafia and we end up still on an even keel as it will be one mafia and 1 town down
lynch said person,turns out to be town,we end up being 2 townies down before night phase

hence the delacassy (highly doubt thats correct grammer) behind everyones decision on this one

hope this sheds some light on what im on about here
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 08, 2008, 12:39:02 PM
well there are more

4) which is to lynch you then at worse we are only 1 townie down if you are town then get the cop to investigate said person.

or

5) lynch neither and investigate said person

or

6) You both are mafia and a double bonus for the town

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 08, 2008, 12:49:13 PM
if we lynch amadjin then hippo and steven ryals are evil or both are
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 08, 2008, 12:59:48 PM
I have no idea what you are talking about Amadjin....can you elaborate rather than speaking in tongue???

All Mr Ryalls talk about power roles for Bluestars is very sus to me. People talking about power roles normaly are thinking about this as they have one, or is this reverse pyscology am not sure is has he an evil powere role. From going all out attack on Bluestars to claiming she has a towm power role is weird don't you all think. Bluestars has still not been on to say anything in her defence and it is obvious to all I think that her playing style has changed drastically.

TCH had not posted much then shows up with one post that again says nothing at all really? TCH what is your deal. You know as being a mod before that people should be posting to make the game more fun for everyone and then you play and post next to nothing. Why are you trying to lay so low? For good or evil intentions. Too hard to tell at the moment due to your lack of posting.

Mophead my dear boy your posts are random and meaningless as usual Do you want to help the town a little??? Maybe just possibly post something of relevance??? Seemed strange who Ryalls came out and defended you as well when I come to think about it as if he knew your role already??? You could have told him or maybe you are in cahoots with him in some capacity but if you are I feel it is more likely in an evil role.

Don't know what to think of the whole Currimen deleted post thing to be honest. Is not very incriminating as far as I can read. Amadjin's post about being Mafia as well as the others to me doesn't mean all that at the moment as I did the same but was fairly obvious I was taking the piss. But this new claim of Amadjin's has thrown me a bit. How can he claim these things when we are still in day 1? Is this total deflection or what??? I'm not sure.

Yorkshire blue dunno what about him it is but my gut feeling tells me he is evil. I don't like the way he went after me so much and other than that has not tried to dig out any more mafia at all, like he is convinced I am evil so now his work is done. Ermmmmm Yorky if I was Mafia and you believe it then you should still be trying to find more mafia. To me it looks like you are mafia and have picked me out and you are happy with that and not bothered about finding any more mafia cause you are in actual fact mafia and I am not. So now it is easy for you to sit back and watch as you have placed your vote. If you were town you would be trying to find the rest of the mafi not just one. So for this reason my vote is staying on you like it has from the start!

Afroboy has not been quite as active this game and like others have said he always strikes me as Evil from the beggining of any given game. Same as MIASG and Trick Pony. These 3 with their stupid comments and aggressive game play are always hard to figure out but I think later on their quotes my well turn out to be very useful to the town. Laserblue has been rather quiet as well but from games I have played this is his usual game so not too much different there if I am being honest.

Happy is his usual self on day 1. Does not get too involved adn has been busy with his new lady friend....although he has at no point actuyally said his date was with a lady  ??? ;) so maybe it is Axeman being sneaky and hiding something from us.

Others people I have missed have not really stood out at all and just sort of drifted along so get posting you all and help find the mafia scum would you cause come day 2 when you have drifted along with not adding anything will certainly work against you as it looks like evil mafia trait trying to get through days with out adding much and trying not to slip up when you should be going gun hoe trying to pressure people and find out what everyones motives are!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 08, 2008, 01:17:41 PM
unvote mikeblue in light of what amadjin has said.

Which means i'm down to 2 on my mafia claim list: Stevenryals or Mophead. I'm certain one of those two is evil, but i'll have a proper read back and make a decision on which.

if we lynch amadjin then hippo and steven ryals are evil or both are

Sorry, but what? If you can't see why i put pressure on amadjin, then you aren't reading the posts properly. He himself admitted that he could see how his post could be taken the way i took it. I believe what he's now saying, i didn't when his whole defense was that it was a joke.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 08, 2008, 01:19:28 PM
Wow, now that changes things quite a lot. So basically Amadjin is tied to another player. I'm not 100% sure who it is but I'd guess that it's Bluestars? However that could just be a load of rubbish and he's trying to keep himself alive by making out that he's a pro town role tied to someone else like a mason group that all dies together or something.

As for Axeman's vote on me, I was joking in that thread that got deleted. I had no idea whether MiasG is mafia or not, I just said he was, he said he wasn't and I agreed. How is that a slipup, I was just trying to get the day moving by accusing people and when he said he wasn't mafia I just said OK, I believe you. Not as if I was saying, oh OK, I am 100% sure that MiasG is town and nobody should ever vote for him. If I was mafia then why would I say something so stupidly obvious on the 1st page that people can pick up on. Mafia are meant to lay low (like you have) and try to arouse as little suspicion as they can so that they can just glide through the days and pick off their targets at night.

However I don't think you're mafia because you are voting for me and the mafia always try to get people killed by jumping on bandwagons or by agreeing with things people have said and sticking their vote on them inconspicuously so that nobody picks up on it but then that person gets killed and if you were mafia, you wouldn't waste a vote on a person that isn't looking likely to get lynched.

I think Hippo has a good idea in that we should try to resolve this day pretty quickly because it's not really going anywhere so maybe the 3 suspects idea would be the best thing to do and we can all try to agree on who to lynch. I'm starting to waver on my suspicions about Mikeblue now, mainly because his stupid posts were just a bit too stupid and mafia would probably try to just have a reasoned defence to any points made about them so they stay under the radar. Oh and there's also the fact that 5 other people have voted for him which I'm sure is bandwagoning from some people. Therefore I will unvote Mikeblue.

I was initially going to vote for Mophead but having read back on his posts I decided not to. To be fair, he does hardly ever post and when he does he never really says anything that contributes to the game and there was his post where he did basically claim mafia but that could've just been a joke like Amadjin's or something? On the other hand his vote for Mikeblue was back on Page 5 so can't really be a bandwagon and he has recently started to argue with people rather than try to defend himself rationally and if you were mafia then you'd want to stay low profile which would mean you don't make posts like his last one. He does have some evidence against him but he does have stuff for him as well so I'm inclined to think that he is pro-town at this point, however he definitely needs to post more.

It is quite hard to figure out who is mafia at the moment but I'm willing to bet that 1 mafia member is currently voting for Mikeblue just because of the bandwagon thing and the most suspicious person voting for Mikeblue at the moment, in my eyes, is Yorkshire Blue. He posted once on page 1 and then didn't post again till page 6. In that post on day 6 he picked out Mikeblue, Mophead, Bluestars and Footienewb. Fair enough as they did look suspicious but I am not so suspicious of Mike and Mophead now as you know from the above paragraph so maybe he was trying to pick on them because they are the most vulnerable and it would be easy to vote for 1 of them (he did eventually vote for Mikeblue) and get them killed. He then also jokingly FOS'd me for my "distracting avatar". Perhaps just trying to joke to avoid attention. He posts again on page 8 picking up on some stuff the Bluestars said and justifying his suspicion of the others from page 6. Again just doing the normal "townie" thing of backing up suspicions and trying to lay low under the radar not picking up much attention. Also I would like to point out he only posted 3 times in the first 9 pages. Make of that what you will.
On page 10 he finally votes for Mikeblue. His reasoning was a bit sketchy. He says he's "already posted enough reasons", when he had only posted 3 times in the last 9 pages and his only reason for being suspicious of Mikeblue was because he was "posting a lot of pointless crap". After all the other stuff that has made other look suspicious like Bluestars, Amadjin, Mophead etc. he votes for Mikeblue for that pretty sketchy reason and does so after 4 people have already voted for Mikeblue (trying to create a bandwagon?).
He then keeps picking up on small things that Mike has said trying to make out that he looks mafia (admittedly I did think Mikeblue was mafia for a while but having finally read back properly I think my reasoning was pretty stupid as well so read back a couple of paragraphs to see why I think I was wrong) possibly trying to get the bandwagon to form and get more people onboard. Mikeblue then voted for Yorkshire, perhaps because he picked up on the same stuff that I did.

Now, remember that Yorkshire only posted 3 times in the first 9 pages but from page 10 onwards he starts to post a lot more often and it's all focused on Mikeblue and trying to prove that he is mafia. He doesn't make any posts that would look too suspicious, he just tries to make Mike look really suspicious and Mike was the most vulnerable at this point because of the crap that he posted for a while so Yorkshire obviously thought he'd use that to try and get Mike lynched. In doing this he immediately takes his post tally from 3 after page 9 to about 12 after page 11. Then he stops posting again for a couple of pages and posts on page 14 stating the day is going on for too long and we need a deadline. Does that mean he wants to hurry the day up so he can get to the night phase and kill some people because it has been seen before that mafia try to hurry things along by getting a deadline imposed so that somebody dies.
He then doesn't post again till page 16 and in that post he just re-emphasises his thoughts on Mikeblue whilst also picking on vulnerable Mophead because of his shouting post.

Yorkshire definitely looks the most suspicious to me now so Vote Yorkshire. The other 2 people that are most suspicious to me at the moment are Bluestars and MiasG. Bluestars because she has drastically changed her playing style, but then when that was picked up on she changed back and made a big stat post, and is barely posting (trying to stay under the radar?) and also because she hasn't voted for anybody yet so is obviously not really bothering to try and pick people out when there is a lot of stuff to go on at the moment.

As for MiasG. He didn't post till page 9 as he was away, fair enough, then he makes a huge post with all his suspicions which was good and votes for me. Then he doesn't post again until page 12 and that was only as a response to Mikeblue picking up on something he'd said and he immediately changed his vote to Mikeblue for basically no reason other than that he wanted to put pressure on me so voted me and then I replied with a satisfactory defence but Mike had picked up on something he'd said so immediately MiasG votes for him. Also, I'd like to point out that this was only MiasG's 2nd post and that Mikeblue already had 5 people voting for him so this could be a major bandwagon vote as he didn't have any justification as to his vote for Mike, he just seemed to do it because Mike said that he was suspicious. Then he has a little slanging match with Trick Pony which leads nowhere and when Trick Pony picks up on some small things he defends it by saying he was away for 3 days and retorts by trying to make TP look suspicious because he was emailing him at work to get him to post more.
Then Mike says that he made a tit for tat vote for him and his defence is that he is "allowed to vote for whoever he wants" and says that it looks like Mike wants him to vote for the vote leaders which Mike never said and wouldn't anyway because he is the vote leader! Just some really crappy reasoning in my eyes.
Then Steven suspects him and he doesn't defend himself but instead says that TP is suspicious because of the emails he'd sent and because he's going away for a few days. Surely by that reasoning MiasG himself would be suspicious as he went away for a while as well.
Then he posts again a bit later justifying his earlier voting for me but still he keeps his vote on Mike "because of his responses" which I have already pointed out is a pretty crappy reason for voting for someone and 5 people have voted for Mike beforehand, and Mike's responses were just that he looked suspicious.
Also on the page after that MiasG is mentioned quite a lot as looking suspicious by lots of people but he only responds to TP by saying he wants him to go away so he can concentrate on the game. Why does he not defend himself to the others and why does he only respond to TP?
Finally, he says that he is thinking about unvoting Mike and voting for me again (possibly trying to make an alliance with Axeman?) because of my posts in the deleted thread even though he'd already said that my justifications were good enough for him and that Mike was much more suspicious, so what changed?

Wow, that was an unbelievably big post :laugh: Basically my main suspicions are on Yorkshire and MiasG and I think they are both mafia but Yorkshire is a bit more suspicious in my eyes at the moment
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 08, 2008, 01:21:02 PM
if we lynch amadjin then hippo and steven ryals are evil or both are

Can you explain why ? What if Amadjin was mafia would that mean they are both townies ?


Amadjin if this "said person" is killed during the nightphase do you still die ? Or only if they are lynched ?



TCH had not posted much then shows up with one post that again says nothing at all really? TCH what is your deal. You know as being a mod before that people should be posting to make the game more fun for everyone and then you play and post next to nothing. Why are you trying to lay so low? For good or evil intentions. Too hard to tell at the moment due to your lack of posting.


Well as i wrote yesterday i have no prime suspect, my vote stays where it is with Footynewb, 1 post in 17 odd pages is not good enough. I'll admit i haven't posted a huge amount but i have been here reading and posting when i feel i have something to say.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on July 08, 2008, 01:34:18 PM
Seriously....this game is NUTS! 17 pages...for day one...lol!

Yeah...so I was at the beach...and as much as I love all you guys and the game...getting a buzz and laying out in the sun next to the ocean....I couldn't be bothered to play the game...lynch me now if you must...but I am sorry...don't get many relaxing vacations and it was nice to just leave the computer alone and enjoy life for a bit.

That being said..I find it amazing that I'm not here and somehow still the most talked about person around...how can I be suspicious if I ain't even here!

I am reading and all these folks are claiming mafia???? And folks in the game that I am thinking are mafia are defending me...and then TP takes my FIRST post and tries to make something out of nothing! You are reaching pal....probably to save your own butt because you know...the more you defend yourself the more likely you are to give your evil self away.

I've posted in this game and been out a bit....so hence my game play is not as intense as the end of the other game, but I've not done anything but post my suspicions on folks and the voting records and helped the town out as best as I can....what have you done???? Picking on one person and never posting suspicions on all the players seems like a really easy bandwagon...especia lly since you didn't even use your own ideas to accuse me.

Enough on you...Mikeblue and Mophead must eat the same poison soup for lunch...both posting are just insane....one of them's got to be evil....as for stevenryals...he's got to be innocent...he's crap at mafia and he's paranoid as everything in all his posts and that normally means he's townie and wants to play the game and last through the night.

I've not made it through the pages all yet...just a quick scan...I'm going to unvote wesmancity for now as with 17 pages and all the claims of mafia...not sure what to make of it all and not sure he's the most evil in my mind at this stage.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 01:49:33 PM
Back to square 1..  unvote amadjin  cant see him making up such a strange role..  if so he's a genius.. an evil genius.. but still

From going all out attack on Bluestars to claiming she has a towm power role is weird don't you all think.

Show me a quote where I said she has a town power role?  

you cant..  what I said.. OVER AND OVER AGAIN... and this is the LAST TIME I'M GOING TO CLARIFY... if you need further clarification.. i suggest you read the thread... because it's all in there!!

I said she definately has a power role..  her last 3 games she's been a useless no power townie.. which is, in my opinion, why she's changed tactics so drastically..  she could be mafia, she could be town, but she's something..  and we'll know after the night phase..  if you can put 2 and 2 together, it will be an easy decision on day 2..

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Now, remember that Yorkshire only posted 3 times in the first 9 pages but from page 10 onwards he starts to post a lot more often and it's all focused on Mikeblue and trying to prove that he is mafia. He doesn't make any posts that would look too suspicious, he just tries to make Mike look really suspicious and Mike was the most vulnerable at this point because of the crap that he posted for a while so Yorkshire obviously thought he'd use that to try and get Mike lynched. In doing this he immediately takes his post tally from 3 after page 9 to about 12 after page 11. Then he stops posting again for a couple of pages and posts on page 14 stating the day is going on for too long and we need a deadline. Does that mean he wants to hurry the day up so he can get to the night phase and kill some people because it has been seen before that mafia try to hurry things along by getting a deadline imposed so that somebody dies.
He then doesn't post again till page 16 and in that post he just re-emphasises his thoughts on Mikeblue whilst also picking on vulnerable Mophead because of his shouting post.

Yorkshire definitely looks the most suspicious to me now so Vote Yorkshire. The other 2 people that are most suspicious to me at the moment are Bluestars and MiasG. Bluestars because she has drastically changed her playing style, but then when that was picked up on she changed back and made a big stat post, and is barely posting (trying to stay under the radar?) and also because she hasn't voted for anybody yet so is obviously not really bothering to try and pick people out when there is a lot of stuff to go on at the moment.

These are really good points.. but do you not remember playing this game with yorkshire blue before?  you really can never tell because he's erratic..  kinda like a grownup mophead.  ;)     but I agree, the facts say it all really..

but here's what i'm going to do..

TCH..  has modded 3 or 4 games in a row..  has shown us over the past 3 months that he can be online each and every day, read every page, count votes and stay involved in the game..  yet in this game, he's disappeared on numerous occasions and has basically been talking a bit of ribbish most of the game..  so vote TCH..
here's another reason..
Amadjin if this "said person" is killed during the nightphase do you still die ? Or only if they are lynched ?
this thought NEVER crossed my mind..  is this because you're trying to line up your night kill so you can take out two townies?

6) You both are mafia and a double bonus for the town

and a slight mention of the double bonus..  but how could the town get a double bonus when we can only lynch one player per day?  seems you were posting in two different minds here..

check
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 08, 2008, 02:07:17 PM
Wow, now that changes things quite a lot. So basically Amadjin is tied to another player. I'm not 100% sure who it is but I'd guess that it's Bluestars? However that could just be a load of rubbish and he's trying to keep himself alive by making out that he's a pro town role tied to someone else like a mason group that all dies together or something.

As for Axeman's vote on me, I was joking in that thread that got deleted. I had no idea whether MiasG is mafia or not, I just said he was, he said he wasn't and I agreed. How is that a slipup, I was just trying to get the day moving by accusing people and when he said he wasn't mafia I just said OK, I believe you. Not as if I was saying, oh OK, I am 100% sure that MiasG is town and nobody should ever vote for him. If I was mafia then why would I say something so stupidly obvious on the 1st page that people can pick up on. Mafia are meant to lay low (like you have) and try to arouse as little suspicion as they can so that they can just glide through the days and pick off their targets at night.

However I don't think you're mafia because you are voting for me and the mafia always try to get people killed by jumping on bandwagons or by agreeing with things people have said and sticking their vote on them inconspicuously so that nobody picks up on it but then that person gets killed and if you were mafia, you wouldn't waste a vote on a person that isn't looking likely to get lynched.

I think Hippo has a good idea in that we should try to resolve this day pretty quickly because it's not really going anywhere so maybe the 3 suspects idea would be the best thing to do and we can all try to agree on who to lynch. I'm starting to waver on my suspicions about Mikeblue now, mainly because his stupid posts were just a bit too stupid and mafia would probably try to just have a reasoned defence to any points made about them so they stay under the radar. Oh and there's also the fact that 5 other people have voted for him which I'm sure is bandwagoning from some people. Therefore I will unvote Mikeblue.

I was initially going to vote for Mophead but having read back on his posts I decided not to. To be fair, he does hardly ever post and when he does he never really says anything that contributes to the game and there was his post where he did basically claim mafia but that could've just been a joke like Amadjin's or something? On the other hand his vote for Mikeblue was back on Page 5 so can't really be a bandwagon and he has recently started to argue with people rather than try to defend himself rationally and if you were mafia then you'd want to stay low profile which would mean you don't make posts like his last one. He does have some evidence against him but he does have stuff for him as well so I'm inclined to think that he is pro-town at this point, however he definitely needs to post more.

It is quite hard to figure out who is mafia at the moment but I'm willing to bet that 1 mafia member is currently voting for Mikeblue just because of the bandwagon thing and the most suspicious person voting for Mikeblue at the moment, in my eyes, is Yorkshire Blue. He posted once on page 1 and then didn't post again till page 6. In that post on day 6 he picked out Mikeblue, Mophead, Bluestars and Footienewb. Fair enough as they did look suspicious but I am not so suspicious of Mike and Mophead now as you know from the above paragraph so maybe he was trying to pick on them because they are the most vulnerable and it would be easy to vote for 1 of them (he did eventually vote for Mikeblue) and get them killed. He then also jokingly FOS'd me for my "distracting avatar". Perhaps just trying to joke to avoid attention. He posts again on page 8 picking up on some stuff the Bluestars said and justifying his suspicion of the others from page 6. Again just doing the normal "townie" thing of backing up suspicions and trying to lay low under the radar not picking up much attention. Also I would like to point out he only posted 3 times in the first 9 pages. Make of that what you will.
On page 10 he finally votes for Mikeblue. His reasoning was a bit sketchy. He says he's "already posted enough reasons", when he had only posted 3 times in the last 9 pages and his only reason for being suspicious of Mikeblue was because he was "posting a lot of pointless crap". After all the other stuff that has made other look suspicious like Bluestars, Amadjin, Mophead etc. he votes for Mikeblue for that pretty sketchy reason and does so after 4 people have already voted for Mikeblue (trying to create a bandwagon?).
He then keeps picking up on small things that Mike has said trying to make out that he looks mafia (admittedly I did think Mikeblue was mafia for a while but having finally read back properly I think my reasoning was pretty stupid as well so read back a couple of paragraphs to see why I think I was wrong) possibly trying to get the bandwagon to form and get more people onboard. Mikeblue then voted for Yorkshire, perhaps because he picked up on the same stuff that I did.

Now, remember that Yorkshire only posted 3 times in the first 9 pages but from page 10 onwards he starts to post a lot more often and it's all focused on Mikeblue and trying to prove that he is mafia. He doesn't make any posts that would look too suspicious, he just tries to make Mike look really suspicious and Mike was the most vulnerable at this point because of the crap that he posted for a while so Yorkshire obviously thought he'd use that to try and get Mike lynched. In doing this he immediately takes his post tally from 3 after page 9 to about 12 after page 11. Then he stops posting again for a couple of pages and posts on page 14 stating the day is going on for too long and we need a deadline. Does that mean he wants to hurry the day up so he can get to the night phase and kill some people because it has been seen before that mafia try to hurry things along by getting a deadline imposed so that somebody dies.
He then doesn't post again till page 16 and in that post he just re-emphasises his thoughts on Mikeblue whilst also picking on vulnerable Mophead because of his shouting post.

Yorkshire definitely looks the most suspicious to me now so Vote Yorkshire. The other 2 people that are most suspicious to me at the moment are Bluestars and MiasG. Bluestars because she has drastically changed her playing style, but then when that was picked up on she changed back and made a big stat post, and is barely posting (trying to stay under the radar?) and also because she hasn't voted for anybody yet so is obviously not really bothering to try and pick people out when there is a lot of stuff to go on at the moment.

As for MiasG. He didn't post till page 9 as he was away, fair enough, then he makes a huge post with all his suspicions which was good and votes for me. Then he doesn't post again until page 12 and that was only as a response to Mikeblue picking up on something he'd said and he immediately changed his vote to Mikeblue for basically no reason other than that he wanted to put pressure on me so voted me and then I replied with a satisfactory defence but Mike had picked up on something he'd said so immediately MiasG votes for him. Also, I'd like to point out that this was only MiasG's 2nd post and that Mikeblue already had 5 people voting for him so this could be a major bandwagon vote as he didn't have any justification as to his vote for Mike, he just seemed to do it because Mike said that he was suspicious. Then he has a little slanging match with Trick Pony which leads nowhere and when Trick Pony picks up on some small things he defends it by saying he was away for 3 days and retorts by trying to make TP look suspicious because he was emailing him at work to get him to post more.
Then Mike says that he made a tit for tat vote for him and his defence is that he is "allowed to vote for whoever he wants" and says that it looks like Mike wants him to vote for the vote leaders which Mike never said and wouldn't anyway because he is the vote leader! Just some really crappy reasoning in my eyes.
Then Steven suspects him and he doesn't defend himself but instead says that TP is suspicious because of the emails he'd sent and because he's going away for a few days. Surely by that reasoning MiasG himself would be suspicious as he went away for a while as well.
Then he posts again a bit later justifying his earlier voting for me but still he keeps his vote on Mike "because of his responses" which I have already pointed out is a pretty crappy reason for voting for someone and 5 people have voted for Mike beforehand, and Mike's responses were just that he looked suspicious.
Also on the page after that MiasG is mentioned quite a lot as looking suspicious by lots of people but he only responds to TP by saying he wants him to go away so he can concentrate on the game. Why does he not defend himself to the others and why does he only respond to TP?
Finally, he says that he is thinking about unvoting Mike and voting for me again (possibly trying to make an alliance with Axeman?) because of my posts in the deleted thread even though he'd already said that my justifications were good enough for him and that Mike was much more suspicious, so what changed?

Wow, that was an unbelievably big post :laugh: Basically my main suspicions are on Yorkshire and MiasG and I think they are both mafia but Yorkshire is a bit more suspicious in my eyes at the moment

That is the mother of all posts.

One thing that struck me though was how many times my name was mentioned and how much you tried to defend me??? Maybe the way you see it, or maybe trying to form some kind of alliance in case I get lynched and people will look back and see that you were not after me. If you were mafia you would know I am town and this would be a good play and stand you in good stead for the next day. But on the other hand you could just be town town and seeing sense but it is very hard to tell. I totally agree with you on Yorky though as I pointed out in my last post too. Just seems all way to strange and convienant for him.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 08, 2008, 02:15:47 PM
yay i got a vote !!


I said she definately has a power role..  her last 3 games she's been a useless no power townie.. which is, in my opinion, why she's changed tactics so drastically..  she could be mafia, she could be town, but she's something..  and we'll know after the night phase..  if you can put 2 and 2 together, it will be an easy decision on day 2..

um Steve, i don't want to call you a liar but Bluestars was a cop in Xmen and a Mason in both Tripping the Rift and LotR including carrying the ring to victory.


If you look at what i wrote 3-4 posts ago i explained why i haven't posted much. Then today i've posted a few times mainly due to Amadjin's claim and right away i get a vote.

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Quote from: Tommy Catons hairstylist on Today at 12:39:02 PM
6) You both are mafia and a double bonus for the town


and a slight mention of the double bonus..  but how could the town get a double bonus when we can only lynch one player per day?  seems you were posting in two different minds here..

Well isn't Amadjin saying he dies if we lynch 'said person' ? So isn't 6 possible as well as 1-5 ?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 02:20:27 PM
um Steve, i don't want to call you a liar but Bluestars was a cop in Xmen and a Mason in both Tripping the Rift and LotR including carrying the ring to victory.

mason is useless & in xmen she was killed by mafia quickly and blocked all other times..  so.. useless
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 08, 2008, 02:21:57 PM
yay i got a vote !!

um Steve, i don't want to call you a liar but Bluestars was a cop in Xmen and a Mason in both Tripping the Rift and LotR including carrying the ring to victory.


If you look at what i wrote 3-4 posts ago i explained why i haven't posted much. Then today i've posted a few times mainly due to Amadjin's claim and right away i get a vote.

Well isn't Amadjin saying he dies if we lynch 'said person' ? So isn't 6 possible as well as 1-5 ?

Steve equals BUSTED!!!  :bleh: lol.

So anything else you have been lying about Steve???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 02:22:53 PM
If you look at what i wrote 3-4 posts ago i explained why i haven't posted much. Then today i've posted a few times mainly due to Amadjin's claim and right away i get a vote.

You said that you had been reading but not contributing..  which was exactly my point..  thanks..

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Well isn't Amadjin saying he dies if we lynch 'said person' ? So isn't 6 possible as well as 1-5 ?

it's either 6 or 1-5..  because 1-5 is -4..  so is it 6 or -4??  it cant be both..  your math is poor TCH..  were you schooled in Alabama public education?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 08, 2008, 02:30:19 PM
mason is useless & in xmen she was killed by mafia quickly and blocked all other times..  so.. useless

Backtracking much of a much, much of a muchness me thinks.

So lets get this straight........

First of all you come out claiming she is definatly mafia as her game has changed so much. You started going after her showing no mercy, then suddenly when people agree and everyone is sus of her you go on to say maybe she has a power role as she is playing different, in my view trying to play down her evilness. Could it be you are both mafia and you pointed her out as a fellow mafia in some kind of deflection strategy then when it turned sour, and everyone picked up on it you tried to jump ship, but now you are too tied to her and don't kow which way to turn or where to go? I mean you have started blatenly lying on her behalf now!!! What the hell is that all about??? Someone that you thought was definatly mafia you are lying for. What gives if this isn't sus I don't know what is. Talk about a change of direction or what!

FOS Steveryals

And not for Yorky you would be getting my vote for sure!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 08, 2008, 02:35:22 PM
um in Australia 1-5 means 1 to 5 not 1 minus 5.  All i was saying is that any of the six options could be true

Just because Bluestars was blocked in Xmen doesn't change the fact that she had a power role.


I'm not going to deny i haven't posted heaps but i've stated my reason and i would think i'd be around the mid table in posting if you want to go and count them all  ;)


Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 08, 2008, 02:37:07 PM
You said that you had been reading but not contributing..  which was exactly my point..  thanks..

it's either 6 or 1-5..  because 1-5 is -4..  so is it 6 or -4??  it cant be both..  your math is poor TCH..  were you schooled in Alabama public education?

This post stinks of Ryalss crap mafi game. Are the wheels coming off? Now resorted to stupid meaningless posts or what?? Can't think of nought to say so trying to joke it off? To me my friend you are looking very mafia-esque! This is your crap mafi playing style falling apart after a good effort to look town.

I mean check this post out from Bluestars too


Enough on you...Mikeblue and Mophead must eat the same poison soup for lunch...both posting are just insane....one of them's got to be evil....as for stevenryals...he's got to be innocent...he's crap at mafia and he's paranoid as everything in all his posts and that normally means he's townie and wants to play the game and last through the night.


If these two are not linked I am a monkies uncle. I mean for the stick Ryalls gave Blue stars early on and her to come out and say he is definatly innocent? Give me a break does this look normal to anyone???

Far too sus the whole lot of it for me. Doesn't add up at all. The way it has all been played out and materialised is way way to sus. Am now even thinking about changing my vote. But I am pretty sure Yorky is evil as well!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 08, 2008, 02:52:56 PM
One thing that struck me though was how many times my name was mentioned and how much you tried to defend me??? Maybe the way you see it, or maybe trying to form some kind of alliance in case I get lynched and people will look back and see that you were not after me. If you were mafia you would know I am town and this would be a good play and stand you in good stead for the next day. But on the other hand you could just be town town and seeing sense but it is very hard to tell. I totally agree with you on Yorky though as I pointed out in my last post too. Just seems all way to strange and convienant for him.
The only reason your name kept coming up is because MiasG and Yorkshire were both suspicious of you for ages and I think that as you have the most votes, atleast 1 of the people voting for you is mafia trying to bandwagon and I just picked up on a whole load of stuff about those 2 that made them suspicious to me. I did read through lots of stuff that other people have said but those 2 stuck out the most, even though StevenRyals, Bluestars and the people barely posting have been pretty suspicious looking as well
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 03:02:30 PM
I'm not going to deny i haven't posted heaps but i've stated my reason and i would think i'd be around the mid table in posting if you want to go and count them all  ;)

that'd be useless considering 1/2 of them were about MIASG's hair color..

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 03:04:47 PM
mike..  you've completely lost the plot mate..  trust me you're barking up the wrong tree.. at first I thought Amadjin was talking about you as being his linked person..  but I feel now that I'm wrong.


I'm also wondering where hammerbro/footballnob are?? 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 08, 2008, 03:09:48 PM
mike..  you've completely lost the plot mate..  trust me you're barking up the wrong tree.. at first I thought Amadjin was talking about you as being his linked person..  but I feel now that I'm wrong.


I'm also wondering where hammerbro/footballnob are?? 

How have I lost the plot? Just pointing out what is right infront of me. Can you offer up any logical explanation other than "trust me you're barking up the wrong tree"???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 03:12:36 PM
i've only said it 10 times so far..

Show me a quote where I said she has a town power role?  

you cant..  what I said.. OVER AND OVER AGAIN... and this is the LAST TIME I'M GOING TO CLARIFY... if you need further clarification.. i suggest you read the thread... because it's all in there!!

I said she definately has a power role..  her last 3 games she's been a useless no power townie.. which is, in my opinion, why she's changed tactics so drastically..  she could be mafia, she could be town, but she's something..  and we'll know after the night phase..  if you can put 2 and 2 together, it will be an easy decision on day 2..

remember?  or do you just read what is conveinent for your fouled up theories and forget the rest?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 08, 2008, 03:18:45 PM
I have read every post on this thread as I always do.

Just does not seem right to me and that to me is not a valid excuse....what you are saying as far as I see it is part of the evidence incriminating you and Bluestars.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 03:25:43 PM
he is my link steve,which is why im saying he needs investigating,if he's evil i will take one for the team

Well isn't Amadjin saying he dies if we lynch 'said person' ? So isn't 6 possible as well as 1-5 ?
6 isnt possible tch that i can assure you. one thing im not good at is imagining roles for myself lol,added to the fact i was going to say who i was a number of days ago. i didnt then because it was looking like going quiet on said persons front.i did say a few days ago if i remember correctly he needed investigating before he was lynched and this is why
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 08, 2008, 03:31:05 PM
I said she definately has a power role..  her last 3 games she's been a useless no power townie.. which is, in my opinion, why she's changed tactics so drastically..  she could be mafia, she could be town, but she's something..  and we'll know after the night phase..  if you can put 2 and 2 together, it will be an easy decision on day 2..

But she hasn't been. You're lying. She has been a cop and a mason twice. Alright, mason's sometimes a boring role, but in the lord of the rings game, it was actually one of the most important townie characters in the game. As a cop, she may well have been blocked and therefore useless, but how the hell would she have known that was going to happen on day one? There would be absolutely no difference between day one in whatever game that was, and day one in this game. But as you pointed out, there is a MASSIVE difference in how she was playing.

What you're repeating "OVER AND OVER AGAIN" makes absolutely no sense.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 08, 2008, 03:34:42 PM
With what Amadjin is claiming it seems highly likely that he is a pro-town role because otherwise he wouldn't have role-claimed unless he was really trying to fool us with a bit of reverse psychology so that he now survives until the end of the game because we don't want to risk killing him incase he is a townie and the person he's linked to is a townie and they both die killing 2 townies.

If you die Amadjin, does the person you're linked with die as well then? Not just you die if they die? And who is the person you are linked with!?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 03:37:25 PM
Just does not seem right to me and that to me is not a valid excuse....what you are saying as far as I see it is part of the evidence incriminating you and Bluestars.

besides the fact that I think we should wait until day 2 to possiblly lynch bluestars.. where is this evidence?  I've never said I thought she was more town than mafia, i've always maintained that she's a heavy hitter one way or the other..  by the way, it's f**king brilliant of you to continue to bring this up over and over so that is she's not mafia, the mafia are surely 100% aware of her status..  some things you say on day one.. some things you leave alone and hope the mafia dont pick up on them..

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he is my link steve,which is why im saying he needs investigating,if he's evil i will take one for the team
 maybe i'm a bit lost..  dont think im the only one..  how can a townie be linked to someone who is evil.. doesnt seem possible..

I figure you have 2 main options:

1) you're evil and he's your partner, you request he gets investigated first to allow him 1 more night & to distance youreslf from him in the future

2) your good and something that was in your PM from hammer leads you to believe that you are/could be linked with mafia..  as you said, you're not good at coming up with that kinds stuff..  so what was it that leads you to believe you could be linked with mafia as a town person yourself..

What you're repeating "OVER AND OVER AGAIN" makes absolutely no sense.

yes it does..  but if you want to lynch her, feel free to..  i prefer to err on the side of caution and wait until after the first night phase to make a determination..  there is a massive diffferenct in her posting style... which means she probably has a massive role..  are you certain one way or another if she's town or mafia?  if you're certain she's mafia.. vote for her..  I'm not.. I'll feel more comfortable after i have more info..  

laserblue & afroboy..  speak up..  you've gone quiet

I HAVE TRIED TO POST 4 TIMES!!!! A NEW POST EVERY TIME...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 03:48:23 PM
its only if he dies i die,if you were to kill me it wouldnt affect him,unless he has a similar role

im a town lover...... :blush: haha

answer your question steve,i will die from heartache....im a gay townie in short  :'(

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 08, 2008, 03:50:59 PM
Jeez Louise I am getting confused here.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 03:56:05 PM
im a gay townie in short  :'(

not the best role to get...

so whats the chances of a gay townie getting involved with a mafiaoso member? decent odds i'd say..

so why dont you just come on out and say who you're linked with rather than leaving it to speculation & detective work..  you've already said your role.. and the cop should investigate him/her (him obviously) before we do anything with him otherwise

Jeez Louise I am getting confused here.

you've been confised for 10 pages now mike..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 08, 2008, 04:00:35 PM
But I am even more confused now.  :o :( >:(

I have gone back 4 pages now trying to figure out who Amadjin is going on about and I can't figure it out lol. Think it is either Ryalls or Mophead............
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 08, 2008, 04:10:09 PM
yes it does..  but if you want to lynch her, feel free to..  i prefer to err on the side of caution and wait until after the first night phase to make a determination..  there is a massive diffferenct in her posting style... which means she probably has a massive role..  are you certain one way or another if she's town or mafia?  if you're certain she's mafia.. vote for her..  I'm not.. I'll feel more comfortable after i have more info.. 

I'm not certain no, but how certain can anyone be about anything on day one?

And it really doesn't..

- you think she definitely has a different role to the past 3 games due to her change in styles
- in the past 3 games she has had a townie power role (which you lied about)
- you think she might have a townie power role or a mafia role, you can't tell which.

Sorry right, but if you think she's definitely different from the last 3 games, how can you possibly think she might be a townie power role? You must see that this is a complete contradiction?

vote bluestars anyway.

its only if he dies i die,if you were to kill me it wouldnt affect him,unless he has a similar role

im a town lover...... :blush: haha

answer your question steve,i will die from heartache....im a gay townie in short  :'(

Haha, quality. Doesn't look like your partner's ready to come out of the closet either.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 08, 2008, 04:14:40 PM
Maybe he doesn't know who he is lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 04:17:50 PM
I'm not certain no,

why not, you seem to think that I should be certain..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 08, 2008, 04:31:56 PM
why not, you seem to think that I should be certain..

You're not going to acknowledge the inconsistencies in your logic are you?

I'm not certain what she is, but i'm very suspicious of the change in styles, and i don't see how it could be because she's now a very important member of the town. Because that's exactly what she has previously been. My best guess, is that she must be evil this time. Hence the vote.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 04:39:00 PM
You're not going to acknowledge the inconsistencies in your logic are you?

I'm not certain what she is, but i'm very suspicious of the change in styles, and i don't see how it could be because she's now a very important member of the town. Because that's exactly what she has previously been. My best guess, is that she must be evil this time. Hence the vote.

Again.. I think there is the posiblity that she's a powerful townie.. that's why i'm not going to vote her until i feel confident..    you've voted and that's your choice..  my vote is my choice..  and I chose not to place it on her because I think she may be a powerful townie... end of..  one things certain, she's not a normal townie
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 04:53:42 PM
Haha, quality. Doesn't look like your partner's ready to come out of the closet either.

save his ass them pummel it later,oh yes sounds like fun....    :wall:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 05:06:06 PM
mikeblue 4 (hammerbro, mophead,Yorkshire Blue, Miasg, )
bluestars 3 (wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo)
Mophead 3 ( Afroboy, Laserblue, Amadjin)
Yorkshire Blue 2 (Mikeblue, Currieman)
Currieman 1 (Happy Axeman)
TCH  1 (stevenryals)
amadjin 1 (Steve Van halen)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)

so here we are.. unvote tch

I'll go with third on the waggon being mafia 2 out of 3 times.. 

vote yorkshireblue

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amadjin, who'd your gay lover?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 08, 2008, 05:07:48 PM
Amadjin? What are you trying to say here? Are you role claiming or something?  ???

for now Im going to unvote you to see what happens.
UNVOTE AMADJIN

As for Steve i think hes really just messed up here. Maybe,maybe not. I'm really not sure.

I think im going crazy. :crazy: Those are just my assumptions. And Hippo always tries to be pro town.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 08, 2008, 05:09:42 PM
mikeblue 4 (hammerbro, mophead,Yorkshire Blue, Miasg, )
bluestars 3 (wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo)
Mophead 3 ( Afroboy, Laserblue, Amadjin)
Yorkshire Blue 2 (Mikeblue, Currieman)
Currieman 1 (Happy Axeman)
TCH  1 (stevenryals)
amadjin 1 (Steve Van halen)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)

so here we are.. unvote tch

I'll go with third on the waggon being mafia 2 out of 3 times.. 

vote yorkshireblue

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amadjin, who'd your gay lover?

Is that a vote count? Because if it is youve got something wrong. I didnt vote Mikeblue.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 05:11:12 PM
Amadjin? What are you trying to say here? Are you role claiming or something? 

are you being serious? lol


I've gotta say moppy..  that's probably your best post so far..  seems you may have though for a few seconds before posting..  well done..   lets build on that..


I think im going crazy. :crazy:

short trip wasn't it  ;)

(the vote count i stole fromthe last vote count post and just updated it with the last two pages of votes & unvotes, cant remember who posted the last one..)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 05:12:24 PM
I have always had a suspicion of Mikeblue for his short pointless kidding posts.

VOTE MIKEBLUE


???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 08, 2008, 05:14:38 PM
Oops sorry about that little mix up there Steve.

UNVOTE MIKEBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 05:22:52 PM
I would just like to say, for the record..  I am not Amadjin's gay lover..  just wanted you all to know..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 05:24:02 PM
Amadjin? What are you trying to say here? Are you role claiming or something?  ???

and you question why i voted you?? haha

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 08, 2008, 06:17:57 PM
one things certain, she's not a normal townie
I'd love it if it turned out she was a normal townie :bleh:

for now Im going to unvote you to see what happens.
UNVOTE AMADJIN
What do you think's gonna happen? Amadjin's gay lover is gonna die or something just because you unvoted Amadjin? :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 08, 2008, 06:24:56 PM
mikeblue 4 (hammerbro, mophead,Yorkshire Blue, Miasg, )
bluestars 3 (wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo)
Mophead 3 ( Afroboy, Laserblue, Amadjin)
Yorkshire Blue 2 (Mikeblue, Currieman)
Currieman 1 (Happy Axeman)
TCH  1 (stevenryals)
amadjin 1 (Steve Van halen)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)

so here we are.. unvote tch

I'll go with third on the waggon being mafia 2 out of 3 times.. 

vote yorkshireblue

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amadjin, who'd your gay lover?

You seem to be trying to tell us you're mafia this game, steven. Firstly, there was the whole saying you're the mafia godfather thing; and now you're accusing everybody who is the third voter for someone, before adding a third vote to Yorkshire Blue.

Genius.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 08, 2008, 06:29:21 PM
Where has Afroboy been?
 ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 08, 2008, 07:01:19 PM
mike..  you've completely lost the plot mate..  trust me you're barking up the wrong tree.. at first I thought Amadjin was talking about you as being his linked person..  but I feel now that I'm wrong.
he is my link steve,which is why im saying he needs investigating,if he's evil i will take one for the team

So Mikeblue is amadjin's gay lover but he either does not know ???(is this possible) or does he just not want to come out :laugh:

either amadjim has thought up the best blag ever or he is telling the truth  ???

I havent been on for a day cause I voted mophead & nothing he has done or said so far has persauded me not to..... I don't know he is guilty but he seems more guilty than anyone else so far..... if that changes I will change my vote.
mophead then bluestars are the most suspicious so far in my eyes though steve seems to be acting a bit strange this time as well ... like I said earlier It would have to be a big coincidence if all three where mafia ..

apart from the gay lover bit I just seem to be reapeating myself so I'll be back on if there are anymore revalations.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 07:09:57 PM
hey hippo..  read the tell tale signs of mafia in the players guide..

"3. Third person on a wagon is likely to be mafia (+15)"

(hope I'm allowed to post that.. cant see anywhere where it says I cant...


as far as mophead goes.. I dont think he's evil.. in fact, if I had to pinpoint a single useless townie, it'd be him..  he just doesnt seem interested in this game as much as the past few..  when he was beast in xmen he didnt seem like he really cared either..  but when he was mafia he was loggedin all the time reading everything..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 08, 2008, 07:14:11 PM
hey hippo..  read the tell tale signs of mafia in the players guide..

"3. Third person on a wagon is likely to be mafia (+15)"
:laugh: That means that you are mafia then
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 07:39:19 PM
"likely"
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 08, 2008, 07:44:31 PM
"3. Third person on a wagon is likely to be mafia (+15)"

Current vote count:
mikeblue 3 (hammerbro, Yorkshire Blue, Miasg)
bluestars 3 (wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo)
Mophead 3 ( Afroboy, Laserblue, Amadjin)
Yorkshire Blue 3 (Mikeblue, Currieman, Stevenryals)
Currieman 1 (Happy Axeman)
amadjin 1 (Steve Van halen)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)

A couple of earlier vote counts:

mikeblue 3 (hammerbro, mophead, stevenryals)
Hippo 1 (Currieman)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
stevenryals 1 (amadjin)
amadjin 1 (Hippo)
bluestars 1 (wesmancity)

Vote Count

amadjin 3 (Hippo, Currieman, stevenryals)
mikeblue 2 (hammerbro, mophead)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
stevenryals 1 (amadjin)
bluestars 1 (wesmancity)

So if somebody doing it once is "likely" to be mafia, surely someone doing it three times is a dead cert?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 07:45:36 PM
bluestars 3 (wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo)

 :)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 08, 2008, 07:50:14 PM
Have Mophead & bluestars voted yet?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 08, 2008, 07:55:14 PM
:laugh: That means that you are mafia then

you too  :)

mikeblue 6 (hammerbro, mophead, Currieman, Yorkshire Blue, Miasg, Hippo)


it also says 4th as well.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 08, 2008, 08:04:01 PM
Just thought I'd say im back. I'm gonna try and read 12 pages but its quite a scary task.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 08, 2008, 09:33:43 PM
Thought i'd compile some of stevenryals' best bits of the day (this is ridiculously long i know, but there's a ridiculous amount of stuff that makes me think he's dodgy)..

Third Person Theory

"3. Third person on a wagon is likely to be mafia (+15)"

1) Yorkshire Blue 3 (Mikeblue, Currieman, Stevenryals)
2) mikeblue 3 (hammerbro, mophead, stevenryals)
3) amadjin 3 (Hippo, Currieman, stevenryals)

Example of Paranoia about looking suspicious

This was in response to hammerbro agreeing with him, and adding pressure to somebody:

I certainly do not appreciate you coming on directly after me and voting for mikeblue..  firstly it make me look sus.. secondly it makes people think we may have some link which is not the case..  thirdly it takes my vote and turns it into the start of a 'bandwaggon' in peoples eyes..

well done hammerbro..   ??? :-X   great thinking.. 

He'd made some reasonable points about mikeblue, so voted for him in order to get a response (as is the right way to play), and hammerbro had agreed and helped him get a reaction. So 2 votes - nowhere near a bandwagon, and nowhere near potentially turning it in to a lynch.. just a bit of pressure to get a reaction. Nobody else pointed it out as suspicious, everyone knew putting pressure on people was required, and then steven posted that. Completely paranoid.

Some good points about Bluestars

Give him credit, he picked out some good points about how bluestars' style had changed..

Bluestars, in the last 3 games you've played, you've been town..  each time you have waited until the end of the day after heavy research before posting a vote..  you have now posted 3 or 4 times and now you are already voting..  you are playing a very different game.. 

you my dear, are mafia and I'm very sure of it.. 

i'm 99% sure she's evil.. 

you are evil dear..  and not very good at it I must say...

strange..  all of your posts are long.. you have read 7 pages of posts to get to this point in just 2 1/2 days..  if you're so busy how have you worked all this into your rigorous schedule?

..and the bizarre change of heart

however..  as I've gone back over the game today..  I've decided that yes, bluestars has changed her style of play to the extreme..  this may be because she has a highly important role for the town

But, she's CHANGED her style of play, steven. In the last 3 games she was a hobbit/mason (highly important role for the town), cop (highly important role for the town) and a mason (relatively important role for the town). Why would getting a similar role create such a drastic change?

looking at past games, she's never had that.. normal townie, normal townie & mason.. so her change in style could be a result of her being mafia or her being a pro town role..  I've said we should go after Amadjin first and then look back to bluestars tomorrow plenty of times.. 

So, lying about her previous roles.

we should re-evaluate her tomorrow based on the nights actions..

What's going to have changed exactly? Unless she gets killed, there's going to be no more information available than there is now. What i think you're saying here, is that you hope based on the night actions, somebody else will look more suspicious and people will forget about bluestars.

I said she definately has a power role..  her last 3 games she's been a useless no power townie..

lying again.

mason is useless & in xmen she was killed by mafia quickly and blocked all other times..  so.. useless

not admitting he was lying. Essentially saying that because she ended up getting blocked, a cop wasn't a powerful role for her to be given. Or a mason wasn't powerful, in a game where the masons (particularly the hobbit masons) were the absolute most important roles for the town.

When does he ever say things like this?

did you read what wes said? 
you know what.. if you dont get it.. you just dont get it..  it's day one and we're pissing up a tree anyway...

We all know how steven plays as a townie. If he thinks he's found something, he will go to great lengths to explain it and put pressure on whoever it is that he has found something out about. He knows what day one is all about, and that quote certainly doesn't match his philosophy.

And finally

"i'm the godfather hahaha haha "

I might be wrong, but there's a lot of lies, inconsistencies, paranoia and admissions of being mafia in there isn't there?

he's crap at mafia

This is true.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 10:03:58 PM
paddle,a certain creek lol, hippo seems to have you sussed steve,which would explain you latching on to my post. i wouldnt be surprised if me or mikeblue (if hes protown) died tonight now he knows the truth
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 08, 2008, 10:06:45 PM
Certainly is a lot of evidence against Steven to be fair and whenever anybody has pointed stuff like that out he's just blatantly denied it even though it's the truth :laugh:

Are you telling us that MikeBlue is your gay lover Amadjin?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 08, 2008, 10:23:25 PM
look at my last post,anyone else asks me for clarification and il presume your mafia making sure you've got the names of the people you plan to kill in the night phase
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 08, 2008, 11:02:46 PM
sadly..  i think you are correct..  he did just do that.. 

remember a couple game ago..  he comes on and (this is just a reference for gods sake) say "i'm the godfather hahaha haha " and then put about 500 smilies with guns and bombs and crap..

and nobody listened to him..  he turned out to be a normal townie..  i figure that's what he is here..  he's just trying to make the game fun for himself.. 

i have an idea mophead..  instead of screwing around,... why not try to find evil?  post something worthwile mate or your grounded..

That was the full post Hippo. Not just "I'm the Godfather hahaha haha"
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 08, 2008, 11:07:23 PM
From what I've read mophead, bluestars and stevenryals could all be evil together so far, for reasons stated by so many people I won't bother saying on bluestars, my reasons for voting mophead and steven ryals mafia like posting which I picked out in my first one or two posts, also he seems to have been rocked by critisism coming from hippo and others.

as far as mophead goes.. I dont think he's evil.. in fact, if I had to pinpoint a single useless townie, it'd be him..  he just doesnt seem interested in this game as much as the past few..  when he was beast in xmen he didnt seem like he really cared either..  but when he was mafia he was loggedin all the time reading everything..
Also I think the use of excuses like this for mophead maybe to keep him off the radar as before steve has been right all the time with mophead so some just take his word for it but this time I think he could just be bluffing and in fact putting mophead down as a normal townie in peoples heads could be a con. Also mophead made a similar sort of action before but that time made a big deal out of it and tried to make a joke out of it where as this time he hasn't also he hasn't defended himself in anyway or explained.

Where has Afroboy been?
 ???
I've been here, noticing there seems to be a mini-game going on inside the game at the moment with things like mophead, mikeblue and amadjin making a scene and because of this lots of people are being sort of distracted away from the others and focusing a lot on a few leaving people like footynewb, wesmancity and yorky to be at peace to easy.

Hi everybody....
*Hi Dr Nick*

Sorry for my absence... as you know... i've just been trying to fly under the radar and survive the first day...
haha... no no... have just been having net issues at home, but have fixed them now and finally got on to read the 15 pages of day 1... When does this day finish ? no time limit ?

Yet again I see TP is posting alot of senseless crap!! and attacking only the people he knows in person... but i guess we have to come to accept that from the poor kid... it seems its the only style of play he knows :P
which is bad in the sense that he always looks evil... even when hes not !

I have not had time to completely catch up with everything... just the last few pages...
So I will continue to read through it and see what I come up with...
Good to see MIASG has another enemy in Amadjin :) he'll be loving it !!
Footynewbs only contribution to the game so far, I know he had an excuse before.... but not now FOS Footynewb.

Not sure about wesmancity posting style, at times I have seen suspicious posting from him such as just trying to get himself on there so people can't say he's not posting but he has made a few points so I'm a bit less suspisious of him than the rest of these

Then you have Yorky. One line wonders he likes to split into 3 lines to try and make it look like a decent post. Doesn't work mate, but you can never be too sure with him cos he posts like this a lot FOS Yorkshire Blue.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 02:14:44 AM
sadly..  i think you are correct..  he did just do that.. 

remember a couple game ago..  he comes on and (this is just a reference for gods sake) say "i'm the godfather hahaha haha " and then put about 500 smilies with guns and bombs and crap..

and nobody listened to him..  he turned out to be a normal townie..  i figure that's what he is here..  he's just trying to make the game fun for himself.. 

i have an idea mophead..  instead of screwing around,... why not try to find evil?  post something worthwile mate or your grounded..

here's the whole quote, as hippo is trying to LIE to incriminate me..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 02:18:43 AM
I tell you what hippo..  let's make a deal.. If I get 8 or more votes, i'll post my PM from hammer..  effectively ending the day.. but when I do.. at least I get to give you a BIG OLD F**k you in the process.  :)    because I'll be totally honest..  Im a bit bored with this game..  we've been playing for 3 months straight..  I cant be bothered to read every word in this one.. and I'm basically  ready to sit back and waste the rest of this one out..  my role is basically useless unless i guess right every night..  other than that I'm a useless townie..

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 02:20:08 AM
hmm.. re reading, that sounded a bit harsh...  no harm meant hippo  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 03:15:44 AM
honestly hippo, i dont think you're any more mafia than anyone else.. just that you're latching on to the wrong bits.. 

you're big bit on me is the bluestars thing..  you yourself said that you weren't either..  what bothers me about her is the fact that yes, she has changed her style.. but I can get past the extremism of this change.. which makes me think that she might be a high power role for the town.. but you seem ready to take that chance..  and to be honest you may be right, and probably are..  but wouldn't you feel a bit played if she turns out to be clint eastwood or something, whatever role he played..    anyway..  whatever at this point..

Unvote whoever i voted

Vote hammerbro  said he was back & reading about 7 hours ago..  apparently he's a slow reader..  ...

where have you been hammerbro? 

also.. FOS footballnewb afroboy TrickPony Axeman & laserblue    for all sitting back and wasting the day..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 09, 2008, 08:30:17 AM
I cant be bothered to read every word in this one.. and I'm basically  ready to sit back and waste the rest of this one out..  my role is basically useless unless i guess right every night..  other than that I'm a useless townie..

what do you mean by this???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 09, 2008, 09:03:24 AM

As for MiasG. He didn't post till page 9 as he was away, fair enough, then he makes a huge post with all his suspicions which was good and votes for me. Then he doesn't post again until page 12 and that was only as a response to Mikeblue picking up on something he'd said and he immediately changed his vote to Mikeblue for basically no reason other than that he wanted to put pressure on me so voted me and then I replied with a satisfactory defence but Mike had picked up on something he'd said so immediately MiasG votes for him. Also, I'd like to point out that this was only MiasG's 2nd post and that Mikeblue already had 5 people voting for him so this could be a major bandwagon vote as he didn't have any justification as to his vote for Mike, he just seemed to do it because Mike said that he was suspicious. Then he has a little slanging match with Trick Pony which leads nowhere and when Trick Pony picks up on some small things he defends it by saying he was away for 3 days and retorts by trying to make TP look suspicious because he was emailing him at work to get him to post more.
Then Mike says that he made a tit for tat vote for him and his defence is that he is "allowed to vote for whoever he wants" and says that it looks like Mike wants him to vote for the vote leaders which Mike never said and wouldn't anyway because he is the vote leader! Just some really crappy reasoning in my eyes.
Then Steven suspects him and he doesn't defend himself but instead says that TP is suspicious because of the emails he'd sent and because he's going away for a few days. Surely by that reasoning MiasG himself would be suspicious as he went away for a while as well.
Then he posts again a bit later justifying his earlier voting for me but still he keeps his vote on Mike "because of his responses" which I have already pointed out is a pretty crappy reason for voting for someone and 5 people have voted for Mike beforehand, and Mike's responses were just that he looked suspicious.
Also on the page after that MiasG is mentioned quite a lot as looking suspicious by lots of people but he only responds to TP by saying he wants him to go away so he can concentrate on the game. Why does he not defend himself to the others and why does he only respond to TP?
Finally, he says that he is thinking about unvoting Mike and voting for me again (possibly trying to make an alliance with Axeman?) because of my posts in the deleted thread even though he'd already said that my justifications were good enough for him and that Mike was much more suspicious, so what changed?

me thinks you might be linked with Trick Pony.  Read back you'll find that he started on me and kept mentioning me.  A lot of people found me suspicious and I didn't answer to some of them .. some of them may have been when I was away (sorry it's the first time in like 5 games) and after reading 7 pages I didn't find the need to respond.  If someone out there has asked me a question that I haven't answered then please ask me again ..
just a little point to consider currieman .. has anyone come out to back me up and defend me?  no ?  why's that?becuase I'm not mafia - just like I told you in the wiped posts.   I wasn't happy with Mike's responses - so why shouldn't I have voted for him ?  he told me that my vote was wasted.  you seem to think his argument was right and mine was wrong .. I don't see it your way.   A few people have unvoted mikeblue and for what reason - because he may be linked to amadjin - something we are all still unsure about. 
I've answered this after reading your post so I don't know what in the next few pages .. I shall now read on.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 09, 2008, 09:27:52 AM
so TCH make a rare appearance .. and nothing new is added to the mix
hammerbro returns - nothing new is added to the mix - still waiting for some more posts.  In his defence he says he's going to read 12 pages - not reply to anything  ;)
afroboy makes an apearance - has a go at all the other non-posters .. pot - kettle - black

Amadjin is gay - we get it.  What I don't get is why he is linked to "said person" - in fact "said person" should be pretty pissed off he was bought into light.  I would be .. 

unvote mikeblue

Stevenryals you say
my role is basically useless unless i guess right every night..  other than that I'm a useless townie..
so is this not a powerful townie role? or not ?  possibly a freudian slip the the guess every night when you may have ment day.  FOS Stevenryals becuase I'm not so sure what your saying here .. also saying your bored is a way to go back into the background a little.

Footynoob came and went and still hasn't posted again .. that is very slack.  why are we allowing him to stay in the background? .. the same for some of the others SVH and HappyAxeman and TCH.  We know we won't hear from TP for a week but everyone else should be here and trying to contribute to finding mafia. 

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 09, 2008, 10:59:43 AM
Just because your still up at 4 in the morning doesnt mean everyone is Ryals. I gave up reading upto date. I've read the latest few pages and from what i remember from before i went, you were being pretty irrational and crazy. So i'm gonna unvote: mikeblue to vote: stevenryals.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 09, 2008, 11:55:40 AM
ok just read last three pages now my head hurts.
bluestars- doesnt post for ages then posts and doesnt say alot then goes again mafia tactic just trying to go through day 1 unoticed
stevenryals- looking very sus the vote for me looking really sus didnt look at the voting first did you and steven is also playing this game differently
afroboy- says i post onliners if i posted once a week i could do i big post too put some qoutes in aswell to make it look big
amadjin- im confused but believe is town
unvote mikeblue
i want to vote steven ryals but i think i will be the third vote so i will leave my vote for now
currieman i wanted i deadline so the day would end it is on 20 pages now and still the first day and voting wise theres no one near a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 09, 2008, 11:59:46 AM
The only thing I can think of is that Amadjin needs someone to shoot his hangmans noose like in the film. That makes him the mexican guy who is handed in for ransom in a few towns only for blondie to shoot the rope.

Need to watch this again for extra clues
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 09, 2008, 12:45:59 PM
The only thing I can think of is that Amadjin needs someone to shoot his hangmans noose like in the film. That makes him the mexican guy who is handed in for ransom in a few towns only for blondie to shoot the rope.

Need to watch this again for extra clues

Actually yeah, i don't really remember a gay bloke in the film. What's your name amadjin?

Thinking about mafia games in general, the main way i could see one character being that linked to another, and committing suicide when the other dies, would be a cult leader and a cult member..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 09, 2008, 12:58:29 PM
i joined the game late so i dont think i have a name,il have a look now
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 09, 2008, 01:02:16 PM
well i don't have much to add from the last 24 hours, though it was good to see "Mr Mafia", the keenest mafia player around, have a hissy fit. First one i've seen from you, so well done Steven good to see even your buttons were pushed.


My vote is still staying with Footynewb as now over 20 pages and one post, which says he will post more and hasn't. I'd rather get rid of someone not posting than lynch someone posting who is potentially a townie. I'm still not sure on anyone being mafia so hence my vote stays with Footy newb.

 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 09, 2008, 01:02:59 PM
no i dont have a name...i must have been one of the extras lol
Amadjin is gay - we get it.  What I don't get is why he is linked to "said person" - in fact "said person" should be pretty pissed off he was bought into light.  I would be .. 
he was well on his way to being lynched and because of that,basically i was on my way also
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 01:14:56 PM
what do you mean by this???

exactly what it says Amadjin...  no hidden messages.. exactly what it says
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
Stevenryals you say  so is this not a powerful townie role? or not ?  possibly a freudian slip the the guess every night when you may have ment day.  FOS Stevenryals becuase I'm not so sure what your saying here .. also saying your bored is a way to go back into the background a little.

no.. i wrote it right..  i have a weak role, where if I guess right every night woopy for me, but nobody will ever know the results until after the game...no i'm not a role blocker or cop... that would actually be pretty cool... 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 01:19:02 PM
So i'm gonna unvote: mikeblue to vote: stevenryals.

says it all to me
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 09, 2008, 02:01:32 PM
i think this day needs to end we are over 400 posts and the whole of LotR only managed 600 in 6 days. We are no closer to having anyone to lynch there is no clear favourite. I have no idea of the current vote count either i assume Mike is still leading but i can't be sure.

This is part of why mafia died in the past as the games/days went on too long and everyone got bored or frustrated and stopped posting.

I maybe on my own saying this but it's what i currently think.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 09, 2008, 02:38:04 PM
i think this day needs to end we are over 400 posts and the whole of LotR only managed 600 in 6 days. We are no closer to having anyone to lynch there is no clear favourite. I have no idea of the current vote count either i assume Mike is still leading but i can't be sure.

This is part of why mafia died in the past as the games/days went on too long and everyone got bored or frustrated and stopped posting.

I maybe on my own saying this but it's what i currently think.

I concur!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 09, 2008, 02:39:12 PM
no i dont have a name...i must have been one of the extras lol

I know Hammer's a lazy mod ( ;)), but surely this is a lie? It's a themed game, everyone would have to have a name. And it's not like there's a limit on the amount of names he could give out. Starting to believe your claim less.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 09, 2008, 02:40:08 PM
For the record I have no idea if Amadjin is lying or telling the truth. I have no idea if he is mafia trying to trick you all or is town. All I know is that I am not linked to him in anyway, but that is not to say for sure that he couldn't be linked to me. Just seems strange to be honest that he would be linked to me without me knowing it...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 09, 2008, 02:57:50 PM
"Mr Mafia", thats what my role said.



 

There you have it folks hes EVIL I TELL YOU!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 09, 2008, 03:03:22 PM
honest to god,if hammer will indeed clarify i am nameless,i was a late addition.i dont know if that is why i wasnt given a name or wether on not you didnt know mike but the facts of the matter is
a)im a town lover who dies of heartache if mikeblue dies
b)i dont have a name so i cant claim one
c) i dont know mikes alignment hence why i said he should be investigated

There you have it folks hes EVIL I TELL YOU!!!
i remember reading the first two words,as for the rest of it,fabricated lies. theres a good reason for my vote on you. and if you turn out to be mafia,then steve's next because he is the only one defending you.
also where has bluestars disappeared to?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 03:11:34 PM
There you have it folks hes EVIL I TELL YOU!!!

Mophead learned a new trick..  :/
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 09, 2008, 03:13:11 PM
honest to god,if hammer will indeed clarify i am nameless,i was a late addition.i dont know if that is why i wasnt given a name or wether on not you didnt know mike but the facts of the matter is
a)im a town lover who dies of heartache if mikeblue dies
b)i dont have a name so i cant claim one
c) i dont know mikes alignment hence why i said he should be investigated
i remember reading the first two words,as for the rest of it,fabricated lies. theres a good reason for my vote on you. and if you turn out to be mafia,then steve's next because he is the only one defending you.
also where has bluestars disappeared to?

Seems strange to me thats all. Just re read my role and it doesn't seem to me like one who would have a gay lover???

FOS AMADJIN for a bizarre claim about being linked to me, with me knowing zilch about it. How can I possibly think anything other than this being suspicious???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 03:17:17 PM
it's dodgy for sure..  but if he's fabricated it, he's done well.. because nobody can possibly counterclaim him.. and nobody can confirm either... 

I guess the best practice would be to completely forget his claim, and just treat him as possible mafia just as if he'd never claimed.. becuase as I said..  it's a good claim as nobody can possibly confirm or deny his role.. and I'm sure hammer as the mod wont come to his defense..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 09, 2008, 03:18:16 PM
Where is Hammer anyways???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 09, 2008, 03:19:08 PM
it's dodgy for sure..  but if he's fabricated it, he's done well.. because nobody can possibly counterclaim him.. and nobody can confirm either... 

I guess the best practice would be to completely forget his claim, and just treat him as possible mafia just as if he'd never claimed.. becuase as I said..  it's a good claim as nobody can possibly confirm or deny his role.. and I'm sure hammer as the mod wont come to his defense..

Begs the question....why do it in the first place though??? Total deflection of the truth perhaps?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 09, 2008, 03:19:34 PM
well if it's true than Amadjin you are indeed an idiot - as you've just cost us 2 probable townies if this can happen during a night phase ..  >:(

the only way to garauntee a no kill townie on day 1 is to go no lynch but as we know that just plays into mafia hands ..  well mike he's trying to allign himself to you and you say you can't see how .. this is interesting .. the problem is if he wa a late entry maybe hammer got you mixed up with someone else .. surely you'd know if you had someone relying on you - a mason type relationship.

I'm starting to agree with TCH (and that kills me)  in that we need to be rid of some dead wood.  There's nothing saying Footynewb is anything other than a 1 post mystery.  Personaly I think TP's attack on me and only me isn't helping the town but I think he has some friends out there .. time to see if footynewb does .. VOTE FOOTYNEWB - sorry mate but you just can't keep hiding.  You said you have fixed your PC plus I know you have internet access next door to work so no excuses bud .. lol 2 new replies .. i'll post anyway
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 09, 2008, 03:20:56 PM
Begs the question....why do it in the first place though??? Total deflection of the truth perhaps?
but the real question is why deflect it from you Mikeblue ? 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 09, 2008, 03:22:06 PM
but the real question is why deflect it from you Mikeblue ? 

To totally screw everyones thoughts on him if I was to get lynched which as he said was looking likely at the time???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 03:25:55 PM
To totally screw everyones thoughts on him if I was to get lynched which as he said was looking likely at the time???

like i said.. if its a false claim..  its a very good one..  because i had my vote on amadjin for a long long time..  and planned on leaving it there for the duration because i was 96.42% sure he was mafia..  and now I'm not sure..  more like 46.29% now.. 

I've been searching the internet to find if there was a gay person on the show... but cant seem to find anyone..

anyone know who this might be?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 09, 2008, 04:23:27 PM
i might not be gay,as i said im nameless,so i may be female.i said i was gay cos im male in real life obviously and because i was nameless,i presumed everyone else was. i didnt even know until reading through last night and todays posts thats its based on the film lol,thats how little information i was given when joining,im off til 11ish gmt,other commitments
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 09, 2008, 06:15:50 PM
Where did this whole gay crap come from anyways?  ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 06:19:51 PM
Where did this whole gay crap come from anyways?  ???

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Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 09, 2008, 06:32:42 PM
..........Offical this day needs to finish..........
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 06:35:09 PM
UNOFFICIAL DEADLINE!!!!
This coming friday at 4pm Central Standar Time (10pm UK).. A townie will die.. 

so... lets get this thing moving before then.. at 4pm on Friday, i get modkilled. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 09, 2008, 06:42:10 PM
To be fair to Amadjin I came late and I don't think I was given a name either (can't remember as I stupidly deleted the PM) so he might be telling the truth. I agree with what people are saying in that the day should end soon as I don't think 10 people are all gonna agree one 1 person to lynch at this point.

Would help if everybody would post that hasn't been posting very much though, E.G Hammerbro, FootballNewb, Axeman, SVH, Bluestars (recently) etc.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 06:45:06 PM
Hammerbro, FootballNewb, Axeman, SVH, Bluestars, TCH etc.. 

(i included you TCH because you're posting a bunch of poo basically... nothing really contributory)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 09, 2008, 06:50:37 PM
Amadjin is telling the truth about his role. Mine didnt come with a name either.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 09, 2008, 07:15:44 PM
Does it not make sense to just do like i said:

- everyone lists their 3 main suspects
- the person whose name comes up the most, everyone just votes for

That way, we get what we're supposed to just vote for - the lynch of somebody who is suspected by the most people.

Loads of people seem far too wary to vote, to accuse people or to do anything. It's too easy for them to sit back and watch while the ones doing all the accusing (most likely townies) just go after each other, simply because we can only pick out stuff from what has been posted - and they haven't contributed to that.

Of 18 players, the only people i think have really contributed properly is myself, stevenryals, currieman, amadjin, mikeblue and maybe one or two others. There are at least 10 players who've done next to nothing. That's why the day hasn't ended, not because we need a deadline.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 07:32:09 PM
At least we have a deadling..

and I'm serious...  4pm on friday, if we dont have a lynch..  i'm getting MODKilled
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 09, 2008, 07:59:38 PM
Even if we do the thing you said though Hippo not enough people will go along with it so we'll just be back where we started but as I think it's a good idea, these are the 3 people I am most suspicious of at the moment:

1. Yorkshire Blue
2. MiasG
3. Bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 08:09:20 PM
hard to narrow down to just three...  considering 5 or 6 arent helping..  and to me they're all sus if they're not contributing..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 09, 2008, 08:42:32 PM
why don't we all just pm hammer tell him we want a deadline ..... if we don't hear back by this time tomorrow we set a deadline & pm hammer with that.... if we havent heard by then the one with the most votes goes & we end the day & wait for hammer to do his stuff..... maybe :-\

seeing as several people are saying they have no names it looks like amadjin is telling the truth as well as the fact he may be a woman & not gay at all..... as I couldn't remember a gay cowboy in any eastwood films

I still think mophead is evil but bluestars is now begining to look more sus than him ...with her total lack of posting & when she did post it said nothing.
I'm pretty sure I am going to remove my vote off mophead & place it on her if this continue's
as for footynewb I really think we should bring in a replacement now.. if that is possible .... this has gone beyond pissing me off now >:(

if he can't play due to it problems then he should let us no & bow out of the game. if he just can't be bothered then  :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 09, 2008, 08:44:35 PM
22 pages for day 1 is a bit silly.

Hammer just hasn't been on either.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 08:54:53 PM
Deadline is friday @ 4pm, at that time I post my PM from hammer and a townie gets mod-killed.. 

should also shed light on mafia as well.. since they wont mind too much a townie biting the dust.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 08:56:12 PM
I still think mophead is evil but bluestars is now begining to look more sus than him ...with her total lack of posting & when she did post it said nothing.

agree..  i'm starting to waver on my 50/50 power role bit..  she's acting more mafia each day with the sitting back..i know she was at work and bored today, she called me 3 or 4 times..  so.. no word from and I think she logged into the site as well..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 09, 2008, 08:57:40 PM
Deadline is friday @ 4pm, at that time I post my PM from hammer and a townie gets mod-killed.. 

should also shed light on mafia as well.. since they wont mind too much a townie biting the dust.. 

no need to be so dramatic .. I say the one with the most votes goes. it's fair & it makes sense.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 09:00:38 PM
Hammer is the mod though, he's said no deadlines already.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 09, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
My 3 most suspected are:

Bluestars
TCH
Afroboy

Reasons

Think the reasons for bluestars have been talked about enough. Afroboy has contributed two main posts (that i can remember) with his suspicions, both shortly after he was called out as being quiet - seems a bit of calculated laying low, rather than some of the others, who've at least tried to give a reason for not posting. And TCH has posted a few times, basically saying he doesn't want to accuse anyone.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 09, 2008, 11:00:25 PM
my main 3 suspects are
afroboy- put in last post i dont post much i cant remember is last post since that one
bluestars- complete different game also gone quiet
mophead- he just looks so sus but does everygame
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 09, 2008, 11:05:07 PM
ok my suspicions are bluestars, tch & mophead

I know he's my son but I think your wrong about afro.... I've played a lot of games with him now & he dosen't appear evil this time... I know he has not postd so much but I think he's finding it a bit difficult with all the more experienced players coming back in... & if you read the posts he does appear town... I don't know but that's just what I think .. it's up to you.

Reasons I voted for mop a while back now after the mafia quote business & than disappearing since then he has not persuaded me he's town by his posts.although he has been on a lot more.

Bluestars ... I've been saying I'd change my vote to her for several reasons first the drastic change in style then the disappearance then not coming on to defend herself when called out several times ... then when she came on the post did not say much at all... I was mafia last time & found it really hard to find enough to post & respond to posts.

 if you havent read my post about TCH earlier please read it now at the top of page 9 I can't repeat it here but it shows all tch posts to that date & I thought at the time it was pretty much a give away but nobody else seemed to notice it.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 09, 2008, 11:20:40 PM
if you havent read my post about TCH earlier please read it now at the top of page 9 I can't repeat it here but it shows all tch posts to that date & I thought at the time it was pretty much a give away but nobody else seemed to notice it.

I noticed as well..  I voted TCH but as you said.. nobody else agreed..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 10, 2008, 12:10:43 AM
Sorry I haven't been on, I haven't had much oppurtunity to post since the last time because of homework I've had, laser makes me do it first before anything else. And also to be honest from pages 16 to 20 I started to simply lose interest bacause of the day, didn't we agree on shorter first days?

so here goes, looks like some people finding me suspisious for not posting much and mafia tactic of laying low but I'm not trying to do this, I'm trying to give my opinion on the game but what I do say seems to be pretty much ignored. What about others like hammerbro who hasn't contributed much at all.

Yorkshire you twist my words like an evil minded person, I never said you didn't post, you just post a lot of pointless one liners broke into three lines, I've noticed you've stopped it since I said.

didnt bluestars defend mikeblue at the start
I like the way you manage to copy my idea yet not make any referance to it.

you qoute miasg saying his long post is mafia tactic then say his vote on currieman is strange who you fos yourself
then fos amadjin for no reason
you just keep digging
mafia look under pressure (mike blue amadjin)
You seem so sure of the mafia here, why not follow that up ??? Because you didn't want to go off the bandwagon path otherwise people might start looking at you.

you say you cant be assed psoting thoughts on people now
can you show me where you have done that this game ???
Then mikeblue shows where he has, and answers the question.
then......
is that all your thoughts on people
your just cracking under pressure or should a say cracked
No one would crack under the sorta pressure you put on, if he was cracking I can bet you had a very very miniscule part to play in it.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 10, 2008, 12:33:30 AM
that's page nine we are now on page 23 !! try posting everything else i've done since then. I've stated my vote several times and why i've voted for Footynewb. He still has only posted once in total.

At the moment it's like being in Punxsutawaney, will this day never end.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e8/189656%7EGroundhog-Day-Posters.jpg/200px-189656%7EGroundhog-Day-Posters.jpg)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 03:02:25 AM
The player who votes early, and NEVER changes his vote is either 1) a cop with knowledge... but it's too early for that..
or 2) mafia whos trying to keep their voting style under wraps.. 


I'm going to Unvote Yorkshuire, Vote TCH as I did earlier..  You've left your vote on newb since very early.. even though you've had no support and it's been 100% obvious that your vote was useless and just dragging the day out..  you have no right to talk about the length of the 1st day because you've not helped bring it to an end.... 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 10, 2008, 04:05:01 AM
I'm not that keen on telling my top 3 for the following reasons ..
1. some people aren't on at all so the people who do post (evil or not I don't know) would be the more likely to go ..
2. gives mafia a look into who's onto them
3. defeats the point of fosing and voting

I'd prefer to either no lynch (at least we wouldn't be down a townie) - we aren't gettinganywhere anyway or vote off the least contributing person .. so my vote for footy stays.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 10, 2008, 05:12:32 AM
The player who votes early, and NEVER changes his vote is either 1) a cop with knowledge... but it's too early for that..
or 2) mafia whos trying to keep their voting style under wraps.. 


I'm going to Unvote Yorkshuire, Vote TCH as I did earlier..  You've left your vote on newb since very early.. even though you've had no support and it's been 100% obvious that your vote was useless and just dragging the day out..  you have no right to talk about the length of the 1st day because you've not helped bring it to an end.... 

i don't want to pick you up again Steve but i do have support, miasg voted for Footynewb too  :)

This is the second time now i've caught you out, very unlike you. Claiming Bluestars has had no power roles and now this. Why can't people just vote for someone who doesn't want to play eg Footynewb It gets the game moving as no one else would have 5 votes to their name i'd say.
Why PM your role on friday and lose you to the game when we can lynch someone who isn't playing ?? Seems silly to me.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 10, 2008, 05:21:44 AM
if he's town then i'll happily cop the flack in day two but at least we're at day 2 !!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 10, 2008, 10:54:30 AM
if he's town then i'll happily cop the flack in day two but at least we're at day 2 !!
vote tch
this post just says he is evil happy to get to day two with a townie lynched and acouple more at night we will probably lose
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 10, 2008, 11:08:48 AM
and how do you know a couple more would go during the night ?

So people tell me why i should not vote for someone who isn't interested in playing ?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 10, 2008, 11:12:44 AM
if he's town then i'll happily cop the flack in day two but at least we're at day 2 !!

If he were mafia, there'd have been a few more calls for a replacement than there've been i imagine. He might be, i don't know, but there've been no real signs of it. Just seems like an easy option for you to be honest.

I'm not that keen on telling my top 3 for the following reasons ..
1. some people aren't on at all so the people who do post (evil or not I don't know) would be the more likely to go ..
2. gives mafia a look into who's onto them
3. defeats the point of fosing and voting

I'd prefer to either no lynch (at least we wouldn't be down a townie) - we aren't gettinganywhere anyway or vote off the least contributing person .. so my vote for footy stays.

The more accusations and conflicts out there will be better for the town in the long run. If they're going to kill people who are on to them, it should be pretty obvious, and we should win.

This is what i mean about people being too wary. By voting footynewb, you're essentially saying you don't want to accuse anybody at all, and how's that helping the town?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 10, 2008, 11:44:22 AM
but if Footynewb is not going to play then what is the point of leaving him in the game ?

If he's replaced then i'll find someone else to vote. As i said many many pages ago when modding and making the effort to create a game, to then get someone sign up to play and not playing was very annoying. So i'd rather get rid of that person, if they are not going to be replaced.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 10, 2008, 11:46:20 AM
vote tch
this post just says he is evil happy to get to day two with a townie lynched and acouple more at night we will probably lose
To be honest if he was mafia I don't think he'd vote for Footynewb because that is the most obvious way of showing that he is mafia. Voting for the person that won't defend himself and that people have a really good reason for voting for. If he were mafia wouldn't he vote for someone that already has a few votes on them and try to back it up rather than just keep his vote on 1 person for about 15 pages?

To be honest I just want to get to day 2 now as well because we really aren't getting anywhere. Atleast if we do lynch someone we'll find out if they are mafia or not, then we can see who was suspicious of them etc. We could always just take Amadjin/Mikeblue up on his offer and see if he's telling the truth because then we'd know that the other is town, unless they are linked but 1 is evil and 1 is good which wouldn't help very much :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 10, 2008, 12:11:03 PM
By voting footynewb, you're essentially saying you don't want to accuse anybody at all, and how's that helping the town?
  As I said in previous posts - you vote for him he will turn up ..  I'm not to sure on some people .. if someone has to go I'd prefer mafia but if we do lose a townie then hopefully a serial non poster is also a vanilla flavoured townie. 

I thought mikeblue was a bad as they come and then amadjin comes along with his pact .. I suspect everytime we get close to a mafia another will come along and skew the view towards others - that's the game.   What we learnt a few games ago was that if we went no lynch it was deemed mafia and what did we do?  we got the doctor or cop or something important killed.  that probably played into the mafia's hand more than anything ..

are the majority of us clear on someone?  no we proved that in 20 odd pages.  I know we might lose a townie at night .. but instead of lynching who we think what if we no lynch and everyone nominates someone to save and someone to block and someone to investigate .. if we get it right we might be all even tomorrow and we would know a hell of a lot more from that action .. of course the sucess rate of that is astronomical as we have an unknown number of non-townies. 

There are too many non posters which I keep coming back to .. these people all come on say nothing - leave a vote and disapear again.  it's not cool - well all signed up.  Only TP has said he's away - I thought he did nothing when he was here but as he layed out he's waiting for me to attack him while he's away.  And for people to think I started that all they have to do is read back .. Footynoob still isn't here .. and hammerbro gone into hiding .. then again not much from Axeman lately either.  And then we still have Bluestars - the more she stays away the more I'm thinking she's waiting out until night phase and relying on mafia saving her .. and a few keep coming to her rescue I might add .. 

if hammer isn't around much how long will the night phase last ?

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 01:36:09 PM
i don't want to pick you up again Steve but i do have support, miasg voted for Footynewb too  :)

This is the second time now i've caught you out, very unlike you. Claiming Bluestars has had no power roles and now this. Why can't people just vote for someone who doesn't want to play eg Footynewb It gets the game moving as no one else would have 5 votes to their name i'd say.
Why PM your role on friday and lose you to the game when we can lynch someone who isn't playing ?? Seems silly to me.

That's not support TCH, that's one player taking the easy way out..  just like what you've been doing for the last 22 pages.. 

As far as the unofficial deadline.. bout 32 hours left..  if your vote stays on football newb through that duration, and nobody else agrees with you..  then you have contributed to the loss of a townie..  it's an obvious mafia tactic to play the "get rid of the non posters"..  we're on the 14th game now, and each game someone tries it, and they usually turn out to be mafia..   yes, please go back and look, try to "catch me out" again, i urge you..  do a little research, figure it out.. and help the town..  which is something you've not done thus far..  however, thanks to you we all know that MIASG is ginger..  well done
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 01:43:30 PM
I propose that if Bluestars doesnt post and get involved heavily today, we lynch her straight away..  the more she stays away the less i'm thinking she's a powerful townie..  I'll give her until this afternoon as I know it's time for her to do payroll @ work..  so she may be busy today..  but we have a laptop that is in perfect working condition on high speed internet..  so no excuses..

FOS Bluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 10, 2008, 01:44:55 PM
 
are the majority of us clear on someone?  no we proved that in 20 odd pages.  I know we might lose a townie at night .. but instead of lynching who we think what if we no lynch and everyone nominates someone to save and someone to block and someone to investigate .. if we get it right we might be all even tomorrow and we would know a hell of a lot more from that action .. of course the sucess rate of that is astronomical as we have an unknown number of non-townies. 



Are you wise???

Or is this the most blatant mafia move ever???

If we agreed to this investigate block and save stuff then those people would have to come on and say what happened to the rest of us which is insane as the mafia would straight away know who our power roles are!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 01:55:37 PM
Are you wise???

Or is this the most blatant mafia move ever???

If we agreed to this investigate block and save stuff then those people would have to come on and say what happened to the rest of us which is insane as the mafia would straight away know who our power roles are!

could you imagine...  "ok guys, we're going to protect ______, hope the mafia doesnt try to kill someone else!!"

useless idea there MIASG.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 10, 2008, 02:09:24 PM
It's more like Groundhog day than the goog,bad & ugly >:(
  I'm getting a bit tired of this now vote bluestars ... if you agree she is suspicious then vote with me to end the day.... don't be bashful come on we need 10 votes
If you don't agree then tell me who to vote for?

voting no vote would be just stupid cause we would have exactly the same situation the next day?

also voting footynewb would be the same as we would not learn anything I actually think it's a bit sus ...

I recon he gets replaced .. I'm sure we can come up with another player .... Afro's mate Shoz would like to join the game.




Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 10, 2008, 02:13:23 PM
could you imagine...  "ok guys, we're going to protect ______, hope the mafia doesnt try to kill someone else!!"

useless idea there MIASG.. 

Yeah and the cop coming out and saying I investigated so and so but he came back "with me" but he may be the godfather  ::)

MIASG so stupid it is sus.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 10, 2008, 02:13:36 PM
however, thanks to you we all know that MIASG is ginger..  well done
wanna see some ginger nuts ?

what I'm saying is that now I don't have a real clue who's mafia .. and I don't want to see a townie go today .. can't you see that ? fuck you people get a clue .. putting 3 names down pretty much does the same thing .. did I put down what I'd do ? no ..because its just talk about possibilities ..  I was simply putting thoughts onto post .. we are not going to reach a majority at the moment .. because there is no real standout only several possibilities ..

ok is TP more townie than me ?is footynoob? is TCH? is hammerbro? is SVH? is bluestars .. I could go on but I can't be arsed typing everyone's name .. how could you know?  some haven't really done anything .. said anything .. put pressure on anyone .. logged on more than once  .. I have no doubt that some of the other hiding brigade (including a few mentioned) are mafia but I'm eqaully sure there'd be some important town role.  My vote and encouragement of voting for footy is to get him out and playing .. it's not something i've hidden and it's something I've done in good and bad roles in previous games.  I shits me that I try to play and no matter what you say someone thinks your suss even if they don't post it yet some just stay away and cruise through .. yep that gives me the  :shit: .. sorry kids for swearing.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 10, 2008, 02:23:35 PM
hope this right ..
Current vote count:
 
bluestars 3 (wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo)
Mophead 3 ( Afroboy, Laserblue, Amadjin)
Yorkshire Blue 2 (Mikeblue, Currieman)
Currieman 1 (Happy Axeman)
amadjin 1 (Steve Van halen)
footballnewb 2 (TCH, MIASG)
TCH 2 (stevenryals, yorkshirblue) *reply 443 steve says unvote yoork but he'd unvoted him earlier and voted for hammerbro who just tit for tat voted back)
stevenryals 1 (hammerbro)

not voted: the rest
also reply 457 laserblue votes for bluestars - doesn't count as you didn't unvote mophead
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 10, 2008, 02:24:52 PM
sorry hit post accidently .. as I was saying no clear leader out of 18 players when the majority is 1 in 6
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 10, 2008, 02:25:57 PM
unvote mophead vote bluestars why don't you all join me & end the day :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 10, 2008, 02:26:52 PM
To be fair it is getting ridiculous now, as we are not even talking about, or playing the game at the moment. Instead just arguing about the rules, what we should do and shit.

This sucks ass!

Mod get on here and get something sorted cause I can see this game dieing a death and not getting completed at this rate!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 10, 2008, 02:30:48 PM
At the moment it will require 10 votes to get a lynch.


If it gets to next Sunday and we still don't have a lynch, then a deadline will be installed
reply 8 .. everyone's going off half cocked there will be a deadline imposed .. a few seem to think this day will never end soon enough  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 10, 2008, 02:31:24 PM
Right I sent a PM to Hammer.

Does anyone know where he is? Did he say he was going to be away???

Anyone know him personally?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 10, 2008, 02:32:25 PM
reply 8 .. everyone's going off half cocked there will be a deadline imposed .. a few seem to think this day will never end soon enough  :hmmm:

Well found.

Still the longest day ever.

May votes is staying then.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 02:38:49 PM
30.5 hours until the deadline 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 10, 2008, 02:41:51 PM
30.5 hours until the deadline 

LOL

Why don't you just wait till Sunday??? If you are town then you are fucking us all up!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on July 10, 2008, 02:46:25 PM
Actually my thinking was that the Sunday deadline had passed and Hammer has just forgotten to come back on....so any posting after the deadline he was going to just piss away anyway like the first time they started the game and then removed the posts and restarted....so.... I don't remember the vote count at that point, but to me it's pointless arguing...I was assuming as mod he'd do the same again...

It's day one....and honestly all these massive pages back and forth are crazy! We know nothing on day one for certain until the first night is over.

So.....yeah whatever....I'm not posting still because it's gotten quite boring with all the back and forth and in my mind even though the moderator has gone absent...the day one, should have already ended....but if I'm wrong...I'm wrong...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 02:47:44 PM
no.. i'm over this day..

it wont bring day 1 to an end..  but it'll do 2 things..

get townies moving.. and those who are mafia will know i'm not with them, so they'll be slower to react..

secondly, hammer wont end the day when he modkills someone, he just lets the day go on..  and knowing that i'm 100% certain a useless crap role for a townie..  should help the town decide on who to lynch..  so before a night phase is in force and the mafia can kill, SK and cult do their stuff..  the town will have an advantage because they'll have the chance to kill someone off with a quality lynch..

so.. get to it town..


(and,, bluestars.. you are totally making a sunday deadline up.. i cant remember there being a deadline period)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: bluestarsneyes on July 10, 2008, 03:46:41 PM
Actually I was looking at the Hammer post and I thought it said if we get to a Sunday deadline...but it was quote someone else posted, I didn't go back and look at his original post.....and I was kind of assuming...wrongly. ..that this game was going to be like the others with a if you get to this number of votes a lynch is automatic, otherwise it's a week long game.

I'm sorry I totally missed all that...whatever.... I'll get back on today and reread all these pages of crap then
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 04:05:03 PM
there is an unofficial deadline thats down to 30 hours now
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 10, 2008, 04:09:16 PM
there is an unofficial deadline thats down to 30 hours now

Steve if you do that you are ruining it for everyone.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 04:23:48 PM
then find someone to lynch mike..  dont worry about me then..  read read read..  find someone who is most likely mafia..  you're wasting time :)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 04:25:31 PM
here.. i'll help..

unvote TCH (even though i think his voting is stupid.. just as miasg's)

vote bluestars (better get in here and do some work bluestars.. )
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 10, 2008, 05:01:13 PM
Right I sent a PM to Hammer.

Does anyone know where he is? Did he say he was going to be away???

Anyone know him personally?

His internet's broken down at his flat, but he's gonna use someone elses to say something later.

I don't get why people won't just vote though. Bluestars is the clear leader; she's clearly the most suspicious. Asking for a deadline, knowing full well that bluestars will be lynched, is no different to just voting and getting it over with. Except you're not taking a risk. Not wanting to take a risk is akin to saying you have something to hide.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 10, 2008, 05:38:22 PM

mophead- he just looks so sus but does everygame

That is the ONLY THING YOU SAY ABOUT ME!!!

mophead-he just looks so sus but does everygame
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 10, 2008, 06:54:43 PM
I just texted Hammer and tomorrow morning he gets his internet access back. So steven, calm your suicidal urges and stop being a baby. My votes sticking on you thro. You just seem erratic.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 07:28:19 PM
I just texted Hammer and tomorrow morning he gets his internet access back. So steven, calm your suicidal urges and stop being a baby. My votes sticking on you thro. You just seem erratic.

better to participate and be erratic, than to no be involved in the game... what's that your 3rd post out of 23 pages?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 10, 2008, 07:35:06 PM
I just texted Hammer and tomorrow morning he gets his internet access back. So steven, calm your suicidal urges and stop being a baby. My votes sticking on you thro. You just seem erratic.

actually..it's very interesting that you decide to leave your vote on me, considering that I get hit by a meteorite in 27.5 hours unless there's a lynch..  guess you're ok with losing a town member then.. now lets see... who would be ok with a townie dying... hhmmm... mafia maybe?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 10, 2008, 10:54:30 PM
here.. i'll help..

unvote TCH (even though i think his voting is stupid.. just as miasg's)

vote bluestars (better get in here and do some work bluestars.. )
unvote mophead vote bluestars why don't you all join me & end the day :laugh:

blatant bandwagonning,i know you want the day to end,but if bluestars turns out innocent,you two are first to be voted
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 10, 2008, 10:56:12 PM
unvote tch vote blustars
getting really bored of this day and bluestars was in my sus list
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 10, 2008, 11:12:57 PM
Haha, I think this games turning people into desparate measures, first this....
blatant bandwagonning,i know you want the day to end,but if bluestars turns out innocent,you two are first to be voted
Now that maybe okay but then yorky goes and does this....

unvote tch vote blustars
getting really bored of this day and bluestars was in my sus list
Not exactly what you'd expect in the next post, bringing the focus onto himself a bit, but that move has made me a lot less suspicious of him because no mafia apart from mophead and maybe TP and wes would do such a thing, it's just not worth the risk usually.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 10, 2008, 11:34:02 PM
unvote tch vote blustars
getting really bored of this day and bluestars was in my sus list

with people like this who needs sense...lol
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 10, 2008, 11:39:02 PM
this stupid i just want to get the day done bluestars as most votes i find her sus vot blustars :uglystupid2:
or just lynch me because this is getiing  :shit:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 10, 2008, 11:40:53 PM
blatant bandwagonning,i know you want the day to end,but if bluestars turns out innocent,you two are first to be voted

 blatant bandwagon yes... infact so blatant no mafia player would do that & draw such attention to themselves .... if you want to stay on day one for the rest of your life you can count me out...

behave yourself ... you know we need 10 votes ... so why not vote for the person I have found most suspicious so far in the game..... infact not just the person I find most sus, bluestars seems to be high on the suspicion list of most of the peeps actually posting....

 if you don't think I'm right then please tell me why & who is more sus ... not just ooh that's suspicious, cause that does not help one bit.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 10, 2008, 11:55:13 PM
i voted mophead cos thats who i find most suspicious,if you read his posts and defences to things you'd see why
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 11, 2008, 01:07:05 AM
and what do we do with footynoob on day 2 ?  it's just like liverbird who ended up getting to last 3 ..

there appears to be a deadline waiting to be set .. hammer will be online soon to clear up a few things and people seem to be heading faster to eliminate bluestars ... I admit she's high on my agenda but the rapid voting has me concerned. 

this stupid i just want to get the day done bluestars as most votes i find her sus vot blustars :uglystupid2:
or just lynch me because this is getiing  :shit:
Yorkshire this posts to me reeks of being serial killer .. you just don't give a shit who goes just get onto the night phase ...

unvote Footynoob and vote yorkshireblue
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 11, 2008, 02:11:50 AM
blatant bandwagonning,i know you want the day to end,but if bluestars turns out innocent,you two are first to be voted

bollox
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 11, 2008, 02:20:52 AM
and what do we do with footynoob on day 2 ?  it's just like liverbird who ended up getting to last 3 ..

there appears to be a deadline waiting to be set .. hammer will be online soon to clear up a few things and people seem to be heading faster to eliminate bluestars ... I admit she's high on my agenda but the rapid voting has me concerned. 
 Yorkshire this posts to me reeks of being serial killer .. you just don't give a shit who goes just get onto the night phase ...

unvote Footynoob and vote yorkshireblue

moving from one useless vote to another useless vote..   wreaks of mafia mate..  I hope you, hammerbro, or TCH are next...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 11, 2008, 06:20:08 AM
not if he's found to be mafia or serial killer .. that's the 2nd time I've been accused of a wasted vote ..  I believe he's the serial killer so I hardly think i'm throwing away my vote.  it's obvious that footy isn't coming out .. we are days from the deadline - why can't I put pressure on someone?  are you in that much of a hurry to vote bluestars off?  I thought you said she might me townie?  As I said a few people seem to have sped up the voting process when it's been found that a deadline will happen .. and people are getting anxious when the votes aren't going to where they are needed .. I must read back and see if I cn link you with yorkshire steven .. plus lets look at all your votes and some of the reasons .. please don't tell me that my vote is wasted.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 11, 2008, 09:23:05 AM
I'm voting for Yorky because he's the most suspicious to me at the moment. Bluestars was on my list but the amount of people voting for her has suddenly shot up so I'm sure a mafia member is voting for her at the moment (if she's town).

I wish this day would end, it's dragging on far too long!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 11, 2008, 09:44:07 AM
can anyone get an accurate vote count ?

If i changed it would be to Yorky as i think Hippo showed several pages ago that he was the third voter on three different people, Steven voted for me and Yorky was quick to jump on and then a few people vote for Bluestars so he then votes for her.

He's either easily swayed or has an agenda to vote on anyone getting votes. I don't think he's iniated a vote himself on a person without a vote. Though i'm not going back through all 25 pages to check.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 11, 2008, 11:30:32 AM
Hi guys,

Since Saturday night I was in a car for a few days travelling from South Germany through Belgium, Holland, France and now finally i'm back in Liverpool, but my flat has no internet. That is getting sorted though.

Sorry some of you feel like I need to end the day for you, and it thats the case I will. My rules are clear. No one dies unless the majority of people have voted for them, but in a deadline it goes down to half that majority.

The deadline for this day to end will be Monday mid afternoon since thats when I next have the internet. At that deadline of around 4:00PM Monday, the person with the most votes will be lynched as long as that total is 6 or over. If two people have 6 or more then the one with the most is lynched. If two have the same then no-one gets lynched


Again guys sorry for pissing you all around but at least you now have a shitload of pages to work through for Day Two.

Enjoy and game on.

Vote Count


Current vote count:

bluestars 6 (wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue)
Mophead 2 ( Afroboy, Amadjin)
Yorkshire Blue 3 (Mikeblue, Currieman, Miasg)
Currieman 1 (Happy Axeman)
amadjin 1 (Steve Van halen)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
Stevenryals 1 (hammerbro)

Yet to vote: Footballnewb, Bluestars, mophead

Ok, I think this Vote Count is correct guys. If not...tough, its correct now.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 11, 2008, 11:38:52 AM
and what do we do with footynoob on day 2 ?  it's just like liverbird who ended up getting to last 3 ..

there appears to be a deadline waiting to be set .. hammer will be online soon to clear up a few things and people seem to be heading faster to eliminate bluestars ... I admit she's high on my agenda but the rapid voting has me concerned. 
 Yorkshire this posts to me reeks of being serial killer .. you just don't give a shit who goes just get onto the night phase ...

unvote Footynoob and vote yorkshireblue
are you reading the game miasg there must be 3 or 4 others wanting the day to end  :idiot2: :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 11, 2008, 12:04:24 PM
Hi guys,

Since Saturday night I was in a car for a few days travelling from South Germany through Belgium, Holland, France and now finally i'm back in Liverpool, but my flat has no internet. That is getting sorted though.

Sorry some of you feel like I need to end the day for you, and it thats the case I will. My rules are clear. No one dies unless the majority of people have voted for them, but in a deadline it goes down to half that majority.

The deadline for this day to end will be Monday mid afternoon since thats when I next have the internet. At that deadline of around 4:00PM Monday, the person with the most votes will be lynched as long as that total is 6 or over. If two people have 6 or more then the one with the most is lynched. If two have the same then no-one gets lynched


Again guys sorry for pissing you all around but at least you now have a shitload of pages to work through for Day Two.

Enjoy and game on.

Vote Count


Current vote count:

bluestars 6 (wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue)
Mophead 2 ( Afroboy, Amadjin)
Yorkshire Blue 3 (Mikeblue, Currieman, Miasg)
Currieman 1 (Happy Axeman)
amadjin 1 (Steve Van halen)
footballnewb 1 (TCH)
Stevenryals 1 (hammerbro)

Yet to vote: Footballnewb, Bluestars, mophead

Ok, I think this Vote Count is correct guys. If not...tough, its correct now.



he's back hurrah!


i don't think mophead's to get the lynch that shows he's evil this day
bluestarsneyes has changed her style but it wouldn't surprise me if your all wrong,but if your right i do apologise
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 11, 2008, 12:06:30 PM
can anyone get an accurate vote count ?

If i changed it would be to Yorky as i think Hippo showed several pages ago that he was the third voter on three different people, Steven voted for me and Yorky was quick to jump on and then a few people vote for Bluestars so he then votes for her.

He's either easily swayed or has an agenda to vote on anyone getting votes. I don't think he's iniated a vote himself on a person without a vote. Though i'm not going back through all 25 pages to check.
that was steven ryals read the posts
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 11, 2008, 01:13:35 PM
Reading back through..  I've all but lost the idea that bluestars may be town...  of course it may turn out that we're all wrong and I'll probably be blamed for it..  but I'm fairly positive that she's evil.. 

hey MIASG..  your vote is WASTED..  just like SVH's vote and Axeman's vote..  they're wasted.. may as well not vote at all..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 11, 2008, 02:11:35 PM
Reading back through..  I've all but lost the idea that bluestars may be town...  of course it may turn out that we're all wrong and I'll probably be blamed for it..  but I'm fairly positive that she's evil.. 

hey MIASG..  your vote is WASTED..  just like SVH's vote and Axeman's vote..  they're wasted.. may as well not vote at all..
so I should follow your voting shall I .. why not follow mine ?  if it's 3 hours to go and someonme is clearly evil and I vote elsewhere then fair enough but c'mon we have days to go .. Yorkshire is now 2nd in the vote with 3 .. hardly wasted .. axeman's and svh's votes are still from pages ago as they've not been around .. I can't for certain believe you or bluestars is townie.  Just like I can't be certain about yorkshireblue but I'm more certain about him right now .. thanks for your thoughts. 

just quietly between you and me Steven are you settled on your vote now? or are you likely to change it like the dozen  times you've voted so far .. your on and off, on and off .. it'd take me a while to make sure who your bandwagoning next ..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 11, 2008, 02:18:32 PM
Reading back through..  I've all but lost the idea that bluestars may be town...  of course it may turn out that we're all wrong and I'll probably be blamed for it..  but I'm fairly positive that she's evil.. 

Well i can't see her being a townie power role or any town role for that matter, because i think she'd have offered up a bit of a defense if she was. In fact, i'm pretty sure any townie of any description would have roleclaimed by now under this much pressure - the fact that she's offered no name, no role; no defense at all really, indicates to me that we're exactly right and she knows she's been rumbled.

Does anyone else find it bizarre how little she's posted? There's a couple of other people that have been suspected and got a few votes, or had them during the day, and i know if i was her, i'd have come on and at least tried to deflect some attention on to them. I don't really remember her doing this. Maybe that's because the only other rivals she's had are in a mafia with her?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 11, 2008, 02:47:49 PM
just quietly between you and me Steven are you settled on your vote now? or are you likely to change it like the dozen  times you've voted so far .. your on and off, on and off .. it'd take me a while to make sure who your bandwagoning next ..

you may as well vote charlie brown..  if you want to get yorkshire lynched.. you have to do more than vote.. you have to convince people that he's evil.. and your not doing that..  you're too worried about me..  and your vote is a complete waste as long as your just sitting on your arse hoping other people jump on with you..  I cant believe you dont understand this.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 11, 2008, 03:24:30 PM
Mophead is still high on my suspisions but I thought stevenryals was evil as well and was protecting him but now I think steve is town so my idea doesn't work now. On this basis I presume steve is tellin the truth about mophead now and so I shall...

unvote mophead

Vote bluestars


She's been given too much time to defend herself and her last post was full of rubbish
Actually my thinking was that the Sunday deadline had passed and Hammer has just forgotten to come back on....so any posting after the deadline he was going to just piss away anyway like the first time they started the game and then removed the posts and restarted....so.... I don't remember the vote count at that point, but to me it's pointless arguing...I was assuming as mod he'd do the same again...

It's day one....and honestly all these massive pages back and forth are crazy! We know nothing on day one for certain until the first night is over.

So.....yeah whatever....I'm not posting still because it's gotten quite boring with all the back and forth and in my mind even though the moderator has gone absent...the day one, should have already ended....but if I'm wrong...I'm wrong...

Did anyone else notice she came on and posted complete useless stuff to the town and where did she get the idea of a sunday deadline! ???

I highlighted her only defence, what sort of defence is that, it's as if she avoiding defending herself for some reason. Also for her first post in ages you'd expect some sort of opinion on someone..... at least one person..... nothing at all. This deserves a vote.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 11, 2008, 03:26:14 PM
Sorry guys, that was me on the last post. My dad needs to stop using my computer without my permission and then not even logging off >:(
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 11, 2008, 03:30:18 PM
Sorry guys, that was me on the last post. My dad needs to stop using my computer without my permission and then not even logging off >:(

Ground him afroboy..  lol  (parents.. gah!!!)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 11, 2008, 03:32:56 PM
Ground him afroboy..  lol  (parents.. gah!!!)

Haha :D! I know, best not say too much bad things otherwise he might ground me! and just to make sure that vote counts as me unvote mophead votebluestars
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 11, 2008, 03:38:57 PM
shouldnt cause any confusion as laser has already voted bluestars anyway..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 11, 2008, 03:43:55 PM
Good point. I got a feeling hammerbro has something to hide in this game
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 11, 2008, 06:01:32 PM
Well it looks like everyone is going for Bluestars now and she is gonna be lynched whether we wait for the deadline or not and I'm extremely bored of this day so I will unvote Yorkshire and vote Bluestars. My reasoning behind that is in my mammoth post on whatever page it was. I have been suspicious of her for a while but MiasG and Yorkshire were more suspicious. Reason I am voting for her now is, as I said, because she is definitely gonna get lynched whatever happens so may as well end the day now and hope that she was mafia!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 11, 2008, 07:39:02 PM
she turns out innocent and you lot are gunna make it much harder to know whos who in the next day
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 11, 2008, 07:59:22 PM
she turns out guilty, it's the late stragglers who will appear to be mafia with a defeatist attitude..  imo
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on July 12, 2008, 12:03:01 AM
sorry for not being around yesterday but was playing last night, a goal and a defence splitting assist pass in a 3-3 draw where we played most of the second half with 10 men. So a good result in the end.

As to the game it now seems that there is only going to be one person who will be lynched deadline or not which is Bluestars, so i will therefore

unvote Footballnewb and Vote Bluestars

so according to Hammers list that should be 9 votes with Afro, Currie and myself voting with Yorshire next on 3 votes.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 12, 2008, 12:55:18 AM
plus lasers thats 10 isnt it? so day over??????????????????
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 12, 2008, 12:57:44 AM
my apologies its 9,laser was in the last official count
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 12, 2008, 08:45:26 AM
As to the game it now seems that there is only going to be one person who will be lynched deadline or not which is Bluestars, so i will therefore

unvote Footballnewb and Vote Bluestars
sounds a bit like mafia saying they give up trying to save her ..

Bluestars had plenty of opportunity as hippo and laser aka afroboy have said with little response.  i've been waiting to see if she will save herself .. doesn't appear so .. today is about to end although I still suspect yorkshire  .. unvote yorkshireblue and vote bluestarsneyes  .. I just hope I didn't put the nail into a townie coffin on day 1 .. there you go steven this votes counts  8)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 13, 2008, 01:27:55 PM
The arguing ceases and the crowd are uneasy. Bluestars is being roughed up by some of the locals and not many people seem to care. Some accusations are hurled, and its clear the crowd want blood. She is dragged to the block and hung by her neck til she dies. Seemed she was a bad-un afterall.

bluestars 10 (wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy, Currieman, TCH, Miasg)  
Mophead 1 (Amadjin)
Yorkshire Blue 1 (Mikeblue)
Currieman 1 (Happy Axeman)
amadjin 1 (Steve Van halen)
Stevenryals 1 (hammerbro)

Didn't vote: Footballnewb, Bluestars, mophead

Players Alive
stevenryals
hippo
TCH
Miasg
Trick Pony
HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Footballnewb
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Laserblue
Afroboy
Currieman
Amadjin


Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)

Day Two will begin on Wednesday afternoon.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 18, 2008, 01:26:06 PM
The sun rises, the coyotes howl, the tumbleweed blows. There was blood spilled in the night....two bodies lie in the dust. See who below......!
The town gather to see whos and whats left.


It will take 8 votes to get a lynch today.


Players Alive
stevenryals
hippo
Trick Pony
HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Footballnewb
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Laserblue
Afroboy
Currieman
Amadjin


Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One



It is now Day Two
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 18, 2008, 01:36:27 PM
well..  2 evils down..  not bad..  hate we lost TCH though.. 

i need to go back and review the 1st day..  to be honest I've forgotten much of what happened since it's been almost 2 weeks or something like that..

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 18, 2008, 01:38:12 PM
christ i thought i was dead then when i read the first part haha

so thats the cult come and gone then lol
doesnt that mean if he had other members they are now town???
i dont remember the stuff regarding cult
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 18, 2008, 02:55:12 PM
Lets get this day started

VOTE MIKEBLUE

would have been a logical kill for the mafia hoping to take out 2 townies..  however, they wouldnt do that if they knew he wasnt innocent would they..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 18, 2008, 03:16:46 PM
well if it means taking one for the team lets go for it,but everyone needs to be certain its the right thing to do first,dont you think?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 18, 2008, 03:25:16 PM
This is one of those situations where its so obvious, but is it too obvious?

his erratic play in the first day, then his survival throughout the night...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 18, 2008, 05:28:12 PM
Lets get this day started

VOTE MIKEBLUE

would have been a logical kill for the mafia hoping to take out 2 townies..  however, they wouldnt do that if they knew he wasnt innocent would they..


Wouldn't be too sure. I think the amadjin claim maybe a big cover up. I think amadjin might be mafia trying to fool everyone by telling everyone he's attached to mikeblue who he would obviously know was town so he has a good allaby for the rest of the game until mikeblue dies. A crazy but logical tactic which could save him from a lot of suspision. FOS AMADJIN

Now looking back mophead hasn't had a go at bluestars really like he usually would, also he didn't vote for her which I think he usually would of and has tried to be as far away from the main subject yesterday as possible. Maybe a sign he is on the mafia team and doesn't want to be associated, also if this is the case I feel stevenryals must be mafia too because he said mophead isn't acting in his evil way which could possibly be covering for him. Because he has been right everytime people just take his word for it and that's what he wants. FOS MOPHEAD and STEVENRYALS

Mophead and steve will both be the same side, either town or mafia, I don't know which but at this moment I'm thinking mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 18, 2008, 05:29:37 PM
Pretty good start to the game, even though we've lost TCH. The evil sides both weakened significantly. I'm not sure that's the end of the cult entirely, but essentially it should be - when i was cult in mafia 2 or 3, there was a leader and a deputy; when the leader was alive, there was a recruitment made every night, and with just the deputy it was every two. So that could well be the same. Also, if a cult member tried to recruit a mafia member, they would die. So that could have happened also. Which would mean that there might only be the mafia that can kill. Or, as mikeblue was such an obvious kill attempt for the evil ones, a doctor might have saved him, meaning there's a serial killer or something as well. There's a lot of possibilities really.

Theorising, i reckon there'll be a 4 person mafia and a 2 person cult, or a 4 person mafia, a 1 person cult, and a serial killer. We might even have a vigilante. There hasn't been one of those in a game for ages. Looking at the two people that died at night, both had attracted some suspicion, so one of them could feasibly be the work of a vigilante doing his job poorly? I dunno.

Anyway, i'm gonna read back and try and work out who the other mafia members, or cult member could be, based on day one stuff. I'll post back when i find something.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 18, 2008, 05:40:24 PM
also if this is the case I feel stevenryals must be mafia too because he said mophead isn't acting in his evil way which could possibly be covering for him. Because he has been right everytime people just take his word for it and that's what he wants. FOS MOPHEAD and STEVENRYALS

Mophead and steve will both be the same side, either town or mafia, I don't know which but at this moment I'm thinking mafia.

then moppy must be a good guy, just like I already said i think he is..  you however forget that I am the one that put the wheels on the bluestars lynch mate..  which is a very handy thing to forget isnt it...  would be for a mafia player right afro?

I think it's interesting that afro is throwing suspicion on two people who have role claimed basically, and you have not been in volved in much of anything so far..

so.. out of the first day, you think, obviously, that me, amadjin & mophead are the most suspicious.. ???

I suggest you read back a bit... maybe refresh your memory.. because you're looking quite sus at the mo
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 18, 2008, 05:46:34 PM
Well I had MiasG and Bluestars in my top 3 on my suspicion list so I was right about 2 of them. Not sure if I'm right about Yorkshire and have to admit it's surprising that Mikeblue survived the night after what Amadjin claimed. Maybe he or Amadjin were saved by a doctor which is possible but I reckon the mafia took out MiasG and the other person, whether he's a vigilante or serial killer, took out TCH.

Gonna have to have a read back through some of day 1, see if I can pick anything out so I won't vote for anyone just yet.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 18, 2008, 09:10:11 PM
can we replace footy :wanker: please as he obviously is not interested in playing.

mophead can you please come on & post something of sense as you only escaped last time cause your mom was more suspect...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 18, 2008, 11:33:58 PM
apologies for my absence in the latter half of day one but there was simply nothing going on whatsoever for me to respond to.

I dont think Steveryals is guilty as he was the first to point out Bluestars change of tactics. Yes he changed his vote but surely he wouldnt have been so daft to have planted the seeds of doubt and nurtered them against his own team mate?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 19, 2008, 12:23:06 AM
i did it when i was mafia steve...so no its not that daft,mafia won that game...so it is feasible

i still think mophead is mafia so until im shown better evidence of someone else looking bad,my vote shall be a repeat of yesterday

vote mophead
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 19, 2008, 11:42:59 AM
she turns out innocent and you lot are gunna make it much harder to know whos who in the next day
trying to defend bluestars here are we amadjin looks sus to me
steven i dont think they would kill mikeblue yet as he said he was a normal townie
vote amadjin
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 19, 2008, 11:47:03 AM
trying to defend bluestars here are we amadjin looks sus to me
steven i dont think they would kill mikeblue yet as he said he was a normal townie
vote amadjin

no i was more sure mophead was bad and so i voted him. i just stated the blindingly obvious that happens each day if we get things wrong.trying to come out and intimidate me??
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 19, 2008, 01:30:26 PM
steven i dont think they would kill mikeblue yet as he said he was a normal townie

That's an interesting thing to say. I had a quick scan back to amadjin's claim (assume it'd be after that) but couldn't find him saying that, but either way, what you're saying doesn't make sense. Why would they decided against killing, effectively, two townies, based on thinking one of them was just 'normal'? Unless they hadn't been reading the game properly.

I'd understand if you'd voted amadjin because you didnt believe his claim, but you seem to not even have taken that in to account? All in all, it's a pretty bizarre post.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 19, 2008, 02:16:50 PM
steven i dont think they would kill mikeblue yet as he said he was a normal townie

I can't remember mike saying that..   and mafia would be foolish if they passed up the chance to take out 2 town..
this is a sus comment yorkshire..

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 19, 2008, 02:38:43 PM
That's a very odd post from Yorkshire. If what Amadjin said is true then Mike is anything but a normal townie and why would the mafia not want to take Mike out following Amadjin's claim. Surely they'd then find out whether or not Amadjin was telling the truth. Very suspicious from you Yorkshire, just adding to my thoughts on your actions yesterday. FOS Yorkshire. May turn into a vote later because you are definitely the most suspicious to me right now but I still haven't read back on the last day's actions so will hold fire on voting for now
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 19, 2008, 02:47:51 PM
seems to be the same peeps making posts again  >:( ... all those who are not posting & are town are only helping the mafia as we can't tell whose hiding & who just can't be bothered playing ... so come on axeman, hammerbro ... svh has been on & I hope where going to hear more from him but wes needs to post as well.... I've given up on footy :wanker: I think he should be replaced...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 19, 2008, 04:37:00 PM
Thought it might be worthwhile to have a proper look at what the two evil people did, or had done to them, on day one, to see if it tells us anything. So here we go.

Voting Patterns from Day One

Bluestars:
fos wesmancity
vote wesmancity
unvote wesmancity
unvote wesmancity (again)

MIASG:
fos trick pony
fos bluestars
fos mikeblue
fos currieman
fos amadjin
vote currieman
unvote currieman
vote mikeblue
unvote mikeblue
fos stevenryals
vote footynewb
unvote footynewb
vote yorkshireblue
unvote yorkshire blue
vote bluestarsneyes

People who voted and FOS'ed them

Bluestars:

votes: stevenryals, wesmancity, amadjin, Trick Pony, Hippo, laserblue, stevenryals, yorkshireblue, afroboy, currieman, TCH, MIASG
unvotes: stevenryals, amadjin
FOS: mikeblue, mikeblue, laserblue, wesmancity, stevenryals

final voters: wesmancity, trick pony, hippo, laserblue, stevenryals, yorkshire blue, afroboy, currieman, TCH, MIASG

people who at no pointed voted for her: Happy Axeman, mophead, mikeblue, SVH, Hammerbro, FootballNewb.
 
MIASG:

votes:
unvotes:
FOS: mikeblue, Trick Pony
final voters:

A Few Observations

MIASG's stuff in this post doesn't really help at all. He voted and FOS'ed far too many people to be able to tell anything i think. The las bit shows how good a town we are as well doesn't it? The only two people who suspected the cult leader were someone who always suspects him, and another who FOS'ed him for being ginger.

The Bluestars stuff tells us things though. The only person she did anything against in the entire game was wesmancity. Misdirection?

Some of the people not voting her at all could probably put it down to inactivity. That's suspicious, but not as much as mikeblue and mophead, who were both relatively active. Mikeblue even FOS'ed her twice, but no vote. Why?

Feel free to add your own analysis, i've run out of time to do it myself right now.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 19, 2008, 11:24:38 PM
soz again for my inactivity, My Girlfriend is now getting BB later this month, so I will be able to get on for an hour most nights soon. lol
I had time before day ended to add my input, but alas i had internet troubles. bummer...

Anyway, I'm glad we had a favourable result by getting 2 seperate sides of evil.

not really had a chance to read properly what transpired in first day, but i will catch up...

With 2 aussie's dying a prime suspect has to be the remaining Active Aussie in Trickpony, my guess is he did TCH. Footynewb has been even less active than me, maybe he was on enough to do a night action? ???

apart from that i have nothing else to say at this moment until i catch up.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: MIASG on July 20, 2008, 12:39:04 AM
My Girlfriend is now getting BB later this month, so I will be able to get on for an hour most nights soon.

BB = Back Brace?   ;)   Sorry my dead spirit couldn't help itself
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 20, 2008, 04:05:18 AM
broadband
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on July 20, 2008, 06:31:53 PM
Ok sorry i havent been on in a while.....I kinda forgot about it startinng back on thursday....right now im really not sure ill be back later to comment
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 20, 2008, 08:10:03 PM
oh bl**dy h*ll I'm going to scream if someone else comes on & says I'm going to read up & then never returns... hasn't this game taken long enough for evryone to be up to date  :-X.....

some one come on & say something, have a go at some one ... you can have a go at me if you want ..... fos mophead.... hammerbro.... footy :wanker: & trick pony  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 21, 2008, 12:09:17 AM
Number of Posts

111: Stevenryals
74: Amadjin
63: Mikeblue
42: Hippo
34: MIASG (dead)
32: Currieman
26: Trick Pony
25: TCH (dead)
23: Yorkshire Blue
      Laserblue
17: Mophead
15: Wesmancity
12: Afro
11: Bluestars (dead)
9: SVH
7: Happy Axeman
5: Hammerbro
1: FootballNewb

I'm treating people under 20 on this list as suspicious. People under 10 ridiculously so. Especially considering 1 of the 8 is someone we already know was mafia - could have been their tactics?

MIASG posted a lot, so the cult may have potentially had the opposite tactics.

Anyway, may as well try and get some of these people out of hiding, so vote hammerbro. Simply because he's the lowest of the people that are actually playing the game.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 21, 2008, 03:43:49 AM
I cant believe this game is still going, i thought it was going to die as it has no deadlines. It looks like a good game just it need deadlines to keep things moving along faster otherwise people like FBN get bored which is probably why he hasnt bothered to post.

Anyway its unlucky for us to lose TCH but if he posted more he may not have looked so suspicious to mafia as having a key role let alone to some of us as looking like he was mafia.  Also nice work on MIASG I wish I could say that I had something to do with that but he must have killed himself by picking the wrong person  :laugh: unrucky for him ...

I have to catch up for the rest of the past two days later on today then I will post a response for a vote.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 21, 2008, 04:03:08 AM
steve you seem to be a bit subdued after the night,part of the cult eh????
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 21, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
I don't necessarily think it needs deadlines, I just think it needs the people that have hardly posted to actually post!. Vote Afroboy as he hasn't posted on this day so far
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 21, 2008, 09:55:55 AM
Crap, just realised he has posted today :laugh: OK, unvote Afroboy, Vote SVH as he has hardly posted at all!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 21, 2008, 12:41:22 PM
I cant believe this game is still going, i thought it was going to die as it has no deadlines. It looks like a good game just it need deadlines to keep things moving along faster otherwise people like FBN get bored which is probably why he hasnt bothered to post.

Anyway its unlucky for us to lose TCH but if he posted more he may not have looked so suspicious to mafia as having a key role let alone to some of us as looking like he was mafia.  Also nice work on MIASG I wish I could say that I had something to do with that but he must have killed himself by picking the wrong person  :laugh: unrucky for him ...

I have to catch up for the rest of the past two days later on today then I will post a response for a vote.
fbn get bored he as made one post so how can he be bored and someone else noticed that it was your aussie friends that have gone. most games you lot seem to be on to each other all the time
vote trickpony
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 21, 2008, 12:47:47 PM
I will be voting for the same person I voted in day 1 for the same reasons as in day 1!!!

VOTE YORKSHIRE BLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 21, 2008, 01:38:15 PM
fbn get bored he as made one post so how can he be bored and someone else noticed that it was your aussie friends that have gone. most games you lot seem to be on to each other all the time
vote trickpony

I actually agree with some of the reasoning, although you can't be accusing him of killing both of them surely? And i'm a bit worried that you might have just set this up with a nightkill, to try and make a lynch for today quite easy. But it does look dodgy that 2 of the aussies are dead, when they literally do only ever go after each other.

FOS Trick Pony and FOS Yorkshire Blue for now.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 02:37:03 PM
steve you seem to be a bit subdued after the night,part of the cult eh????

silly thing to say..  the cult leader is dead..  try to keep up amadjin..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 02:42:04 PM
ok.. so.. been thinking this morning, looking back and whatnot..

first, laserblue, instead of getting angry because nobody is making things happen..  why dont you make something happen?

secondly, unvote mikeblue I think, given the circumstances, he's evil and amadjin will have to be sacrificed at some point..  if he was town, he'd be informed of the connection with amadjin...  tis better to be down one townie & one evil, than to willingly let evil stick around for the sake of one townie..  that's just my thoughts..  but I do think mike blue will turn out to be evil eventually.. 

yorkshire blue,... playing much differently, but it's a welcome suprise in my opinion.. you are making a little sense this game..  which may be a sign that you're evil..  or maybe just holding off on those funny fags  ;)

more to come.. have to work for a minute...  sadly..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 21, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
To conclude my little research dossier, i thought it'd be worthwhile to see who has done what in terms of number of accusations. The people with the least are often pretty dodgy, as is emphasised by bluestars' positioning in the table, because the mafia usually look to avoid conflict as it can reveal a large amount of information regarding their allignment. The following shows how many FOS' and votes from each player within the game.

League of Aggression

21: Stevenryals
16: Currieman
      Mikeblue
12: Amadjin
11: Laserblue
      MIASG
10: Hippo
7: Afroboy
6: Yorkshireblue
5: Wesmancity
3: Hammerbro
    Trick Pony
2: Bluestars
    Mophead
    TCH
1: Happy Axeman
    SVH
0: FootballNewb

Most of the people are in a similar position on this list, to where they feature on the number of posts list. So it's all in proportion. However, the one person that sticks out to me is Trick Pony. Despite being one of the more frequent posters (which i have to say, surprised me somewhat when i was counting up), he has only voted or FOS'ed 3 times. Seems like he wants to appear as if he's involved in the game, without actually contributing all that much, and keeping somewhat under the radar.

Main Suspects, based on my research

Mikeblue: He is one of the top three posters and accusers, and yet he also appears on the list of people who never once voted for bluestars - he did FOS her, but it was towards the start, and was a jokey "by law of averages" type thing, that nobody would pay attention to. Anyone paying any sort of attention to the game could see she was dodgy, but no vote. However, all of this amadjin stuff makes me question whether or not i think he's mafia - it doesn't really make sense, unless they both are, which would be a bizarre tactic to be using.

Mophead: Posted not much, but enough to be considered active. Has hardly accused anybody, and was also on the list of people who didn't vote for bluestars ever.

Trick Pony: Posted quite a bit, accused practically no-one. As stated above.

One of the very infrequent posters - FootballNewb, Hammerbro, Happy Axeman and SVH - will be mafia i think, it's just pretty impossible to tell which at the moment because they're not posting. They'll have seen that there's a few people not posting, seen they can get away with it, and decided to stay under the radar that way.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 21, 2008, 04:05:55 PM
Steven seems to have something against the colour blue. Also, im a cop. Stevenryals evil.
Vote: Stevenryals
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 21, 2008, 04:20:37 PM
silly thing to say..  the cult leader is dead..  try to keep up amadjin..

incase you hadnt noticed,hippo said shortly after this day started that once a cult leader was dead a deputy could carry on??

and if what hammersbro is saying is true it would make sense to oust bluestars as it deflects the attention away from you as you were the first to accuse her
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 21, 2008, 04:22:36 PM
vote:steveryals

hammersbro wouldnt be willing to sacrifice himself if he hadnt come up trumps

if steve isnt the head mafia then hes at least a henchman,with mophead most likely to be the other one
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 21, 2008, 04:23:21 PM
sorry unvote mophead,vote steveryals
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 21, 2008, 04:34:01 PM
Trying to get a replacement for FootballNewb
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 21, 2008, 04:44:47 PM
Steven seems to have something against the colour blue. Also, im a cop. Stevenryals evil.
Vote: Stevenryals

Well that's quite an entrance. Only really one thing to do in these sort of situations, and that's believe you. Can't see you lying, because that'd be ridiculously obvious by tomorrow.

unvote hammerbro
vote stevenryals


3 evil out of 4 deaths is a pretty excellent start. Probably half of them gone.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 21, 2008, 05:01:41 PM
Right well that just about does it for me. Be an extremely stupid thing to do if you were mafia so I believe you Hammerbro. Unvote SVH, vote StevenRyals
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 05:23:24 PM
so, you just going to believe him? 

i'm reverend leone..  it's my mission to stop the yongsters from leaving the town to join the cult..  i can talk to one person per night and while i'm talking to them they cant be recruited.. 

that's why i said "i'm positive theres a cult" on the first day..

that's why i said "my role is fairly useless unless I guess right every night"

UNVOTE MIKE BLUE
VOTE HAMMERBRO


he's put himself in a bad situation..  you either lynch me or you lynch him..  he posted "im a cop", and you now have my full role.. 

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 05:50:23 PM
Three votes, quick succession...  within 30 minutes of each other.. now they've all logged off.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 21, 2008, 06:01:12 PM
so, you just going to believe him? 

i'm reverend leone..  it's my mission to stop the yongsters from leaving the town to join the cult..  i can talk to one person per night and while i'm talking to them they cant be recruited.. 

that's why i said "i'm positive theres a cult" on the first day..

that's why i said "my role is fairly useless unless I guess right every night"

UNVOTE MIKE BLUE
VOTE HAMMERBRO


he's put himself in a bad situation..  you either lynch me or you lynch him..  he posted "im a cop", and you now have my full role.. 

Right okay, well i want to hear more from hammerbro.

BUT, the way i'm seeing it currently is that we have two options:

1) Believe hammerbro and lynch you. If he's lying, we lose a "fairly useless" role, but probably identify a mafia/cult member in hammerbro, but suffer whatever he's capable of at night. If he's not, then we obviously get you as an evil person.

2) Believe you and lynch hammerbro. If you're lying, then we lose a cop, and we suffer the consequences of whatever you do at night. If you're telling the truth, we get an evil person obviously.

So, we're going to end up lynching somebody evil in the next two days either way; both options give the potential that it's today.

BUT, only one of the options means we POTENTIALLY lose an actual useful role for the town. Which is why i'm leaning towards going with hammerbro. This might change when i hear his next post though, so for now i'm going to unvote stevenryals.

PRE-POST EDIT: Stevenryals posted again whilst i was typing.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 21, 2008, 06:05:07 PM
Just to clarify, when i say "leaning towards going with hammerbro", i mean i'm leaning towards believing him; not lynching him. But like i said, i want to hear what more he has to say, hence the unvote.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 21, 2008, 06:37:52 PM
This is a pretty sticky situation because 1 of you is lying. We just have to figure out who. Hammerbro has only posted 5 times in the entire game whereas Steven has posted the most and has posted over 100 times. My thoughts would say that the person that has posted less would be the one more likely to be mafia. However Steven could just be posting lots to try and cover his tracks by playing the game by the numbers and accusing lots of people and lynching Bluestars as a normal townie would.

The 2 things you said do make it quite likely that you are telling the truth Steven but surely Hammerbro wouldn't be so bold as to be mafia, only post 5 times in the whole game and then suddenly claim that he's a cop and hope we all believe him? He could just be bored and trying to get the game moving by roleclaiming though :laugh:

I'll unvote StevenRyals for now. Think I'll go back and look at Hammerbro's posts as well. Is there not a role that can mean a cop gets incorrect results or is that just when they investigate the mafia godfather and it comes back innocent?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on July 21, 2008, 06:52:47 PM
Vote Hammerbro as that statement is madness and for me steve in an easy target for you guys. Really can not understand why you did that.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 07:09:29 PM
Is there not a role that can mean a cop gets incorrect results or is that just when they investigate the mafia godfather and it comes back innocent?

not likely, but i remember in the past there were 'rogue cops' who always got the wrong results..  or something of that nature in der hammer's games.. so if he is a cop, then he's a rogue cop and useless to the town anyway..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 21, 2008, 07:30:21 PM
Things are getting a bit crazy, at first I was going to go with Hammerbro and vote for steve but after thinking about it I'm not so sure
that it's the right thing to do as steve played a big role in the lynching of bluestars. I think 1 of 3 things might have happened.

1) Hammerbro is a paranoid cop and steve may or may not be innocent
2) Hammerbro is telling the truth and steve is lying
3) Hammerbro is evil and has made up a wild story to confuse us

Can someone help me here who knows the film and tell me if steves story fits the character he's claiming so I'm going to hold back on my vote for steve for now. Also can hammerbro give us a name of his character and can steve give us the name of his role without quoting mod.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 07:44:42 PM
i'm reverend leone..  it's my mission to stop the yongsters from leaving the town to join the cult..  i can talk to one person per night and while i'm talking to them they cant be recruited.. 

that's why i said "i'm positive theres a cult" on the first day..

that's why i said "my role is fairly useless unless I guess right every night"

afroboy..  read the posts!!  last post on the previous page...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 21, 2008, 07:58:23 PM
I did I meant name as in eg. roleblocker or cop or anything like that
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 09:01:52 PM
the only name I have is Reverend Leone.  It's a role block type of role, but I can only block the cult from a recruit night action.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 09:03:16 PM
ok.. so we have 18 players..  more than likely 6 evil..  with big games like this and hammer modding you can almost be assured there is a cult
 

one of my first posts.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 21, 2008, 09:05:04 PM
i can talk to one person per night and while i'm talking to them they cant be recruited.. 

So, as we've had a night phase, there should be somebody who can 100% back up your story. They don't have to roleclaim or anything, because i'd guess you can talk to anyone at all? They just have to say they were talked to.

If you can produce that person, and they can back you up, i'm willing to believe you.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 09:23:44 PM
no.. i wrote it right..  i have a weak role, where if I guess right every night woopy for me, but nobody will ever know the results until after the game...no i'm not a role blocker or cop... that would actually be pretty cool... 


here's where I basically tried to describe my role..  not really a roleblocker, and nobody will know what i've done until after the game, but considering the cult is already gone... i have nothing to do..

so.. believe my claim, which i've been consitent about throughout the game, or hammerbro..  up to you.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 21, 2008, 09:36:47 PM
I think afro may have a point I remember yorkshire being a paronoid cop he had no idea & everyone he investigated came back evil

Hope hammer can replace footynewb ...

I don't trust TP.... we were both mafia last time & he wanted to kill off his aussie workmates from the start.....

or SVH I know he's been on recently but for an experienced player his posts have been very poor

or axeman ... I know he's been busy but even with limited time he has usually sussed out most of the evil players he made a post last time near the start & named every mafia member bar one & this time weve had nothing like that...he has said he hates being mafia because he is bad at lying....

 & I am still suspicious of mophead cause along with bluestars he did not vote.

Despite bluestars being obviously evil he never voted for her

usually he has a go in his posts against bluestars but not this time.

FOS TP, SVH, Axeman, Mophead....

I've noticed yorkshire is more involved in this game ... but I can't decide what that means yet..... problem is I always suspect him everygame. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 21, 2008, 09:38:13 PM
So, as we've had a night phase, there should be somebody who can 100% back up your story. They don't have to roleclaim or anything, because i'd guess you can talk to anyone at all? They just have to say they were talked to.

If you can produce that person, and they can back you up, i'm willing to believe you.

Good point

.. steve you seemed to have bypassed this one ... someone should be able to confirm this without giving anything away....
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 21, 2008, 09:48:53 PM

here's where I basically tried to describe my role..  not really a roleblocker, and nobody will know what i've done until after the game, but considering the cult is already gone... i have nothing to do..

so.. believe my claim, which i've been consitent about throughout the game, or hammerbro..  up to you.

?

It doesn't matter if you've been consistent with it throughout the game, because you could have just thought of a cover story at the start and stuck to it.

All of your defense seems to hinge on the fact that you knew there was a cult - there is quite another obvious reason that would explain how you knew there was one, why you were found guilty in an investigation, and why you tried to ignore the points i made earlier in the day about hammer's previous cults having a deputy.

If you're telling the truth, you talked to somebody last night according to your own roleclaim. Unless you're now saying you don't actually talk to them? Which wouldn't be very consistent at all, would it?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 09:57:55 PM
why do you assume that hammer would PM someone and say "you've been talked to"  considering hammer didnt have access to a computer i'd assume that he didnt do much more than post the results from the night actions, I didnt get a result back either.

hippo you really seem strong on hammerbro's behalf.  Why?  I know, becase he's 1 of 2 things.. he's a paranoid cop or he's mafia.. if he's a paranoid cop, then you see a chance to get rid of a few townies.  if he's mafia, obviously you want the town to believe his claim, so you try to cast doubt..

the town now knows my entire role, almost everything I was sent by the moderator, and hammerbro only say "i'm a cop stevenryals is guilty" and that's enough for you to believe..  you in past games have tried to be more intelligent than that..  but you seem to be in agreement with him very easily this time..  I think that come the end of the game, you'll be found out to be mafia.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 21, 2008, 10:38:21 PM
Steve answer the question! You are looking more and more suspicious to me, you are avoiding almost all questions, the post you made in day 1 is the only thing you keep on coming back to, looks like it was a big plan to me. :'(
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 21, 2008, 10:51:52 PM
you have enough information to make a decision afroboy...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 22, 2008, 12:11:37 AM
I cant see why the cop would reveal himself so early with little pressure it just doesnt make sence, I believe Steve so far so VOTE : Hammerbro

Though if he turns out the be the cop then your gone Steve..

Also laser why do you keep mentioning me for being quiet. The game stalled so almost stopped reading until TCH said something yesterday about the new day phase as he was killed.  Their is almost no point in provoking resonses now as its always seen as being evil, I think you either have an evil role or are a normal townie with no clue...  I would have loved to take out MIASG as in every game though I just dont have the power in this game so unrucky for me
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 22, 2008, 12:28:23 AM
so, you just going to believe him? 

i'm reverend leone..  it's my mission to stop the yongsters from leaving the town to join the cult..  i can talk to one person per night and while i'm talking to them they cant be recruited.. 

that's why i said "i'm positive theres a cult" on the first day..

that's why i said "my role is fairly useless unless I guess right every night"

UNVOTE MIKE BLUE
VOTE HAMMERBRO


he's put himself in a bad situation..  you either lynch me or you lynch him..  he posted "im a cop", and you now have my full role.. 

Okay, this is your roleclaim in full. You quite clearly state that your role was that you talk to one person per night, which means they can't be recruited by the cult. By this, i assumed you got to talk to one person per night, and that would mean they couldn't be recruited by the cult. I've apparently got this wrong, and you don't talk to anyone at all?

You've repeatedly ignored things that people have said to you. Quite importantly today, you've ignored the fact that previous cults have had a deputy, on a number of occasions. Most recently stating that "the cult is already gone". I know i've mentioned it twice, and i think amadjin also did, so why aren't you acknowledging it?

Anyway, you don't currently have my vote, because i want to hear more from hammerbro. But being so inconsistent, and then just trying to divert attention away on to me because, as far as i can see, i'm the one who dared to question your claim, isn't exactly making me believe you.

I did state why i was leaning towards believing hammerbro's claim earlier in the day. But i'll do it again if you like. He's claiming to be a cop; you're claiming to be something, in your own words, "fairly useless". It seems pretty much like a straight choice between you and him (not just in my mind, in everyones, if you have a look at the votes since). If we believe you and you're lying, we've lost a cop. If we believe him and he's lying, we've lost nothing that powerful - although admittedly, you are a strong poster. The risk factor with believing him seems less to me. And that's it entirely. I don't believe in deliberately risking a cop, without any concrete evidence.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 22, 2008, 12:42:12 AM
you seem to forget one thing altogether..  hammerbro is dead one way or another..  today is his last day to play, because...
1) I'm lynched today and I'm innocent, therefore he's lynched tomorrow
2) he's lynched today, and obviously he'd dead
3) I'm lynched today and I'm turn out to be lying, he's dead in the night phase.


now I'll place myself in the place of the cop:

firstly, I would attempt to convince people of someone guilt rather than giving my role straightaway.
secondly, in my role claim I would definitely make sure i requested the services of a protection role.
thirdly, If I was going to give my role away, I would surely be more specific and get back online to make sure things were going ok. 

he's done none of this..  if he is a paranoid cop and doesnt know it and he thinks his results are real..  then he's really shite at this game


as for the possibility of a deputy, i cant remember one...  if there is one, I still have about a 1 in 15 shot at choosing right.. and what does it matter if I dont respond to every single comment.. my god I have like a million posts in this games, ive tried to get involved and be responsive but even i cant respond to everything, especially after 30 pages of mostly nonsense..

finally..  i'm reverend leone..  good to meet you..  end of
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 22, 2008, 08:52:02 AM
Also laser why do you keep mentioning me for being quiet.

Show me where I mentioned you for being quiet ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 22, 2008, 10:38:25 AM
Three votes, quick succession...  within 30 minutes of each other.. now they've all logged off.. 

your last straws....clutching ...


you seem to forget one thing altogether..  hammerbro is dead one way or another..  today is his last day to play, because...
1) I'm lynched today and I'm innocent, therefore he's lynched tomorrow
2) he's lynched today, and obviously he'd dead
3) I'm lynched today and I'm turn out to be lying, he's dead in the night phase.


now I'll place myself in the place of the cop:

firstly, I would attempt to convince people of someone guilt rather than giving my role straightaway.
secondly, in my role claim I would definitely make sure i requested the services of a protection role.
thirdly, If I was going to give my role away, I would surely be more specific and get back online to make sure things were going ok. 

he's done none of this..  if he is a paranoid cop and doesnt know it and he thinks his results are real..  then he's really shite at this game


as for the possibility of a deputy, i cant remember one...  if there is one, I still have about a 1 in 15 shot at choosing right.. and what does it matter if I dont respond to every single comment.. my god I have like a million posts in this games, ive tried to get involved and be responsive but even i cant respond to everything, especially after 30 pages of mostly nonsense..

finally..  i'm reverend leone..  good to meet you..  end of

this stinks of evil and again avoiding questions.i have a few for you

1) whats your role called?
2)with regards to question 2 and your last post,you said you cant answer every post. there were 2 posts at least where you were asked about your views on the apparent demise of the cult.
3)are you the cult deputy trying to quash rumours of the cult still being around???

one final thought and question if you would acknowledge this. your most recent post,if you were a town,solely thinking about the town,your third alternative would certainly have not crept into your post,freudian slip perchance?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 22, 2008, 11:51:04 AM
Sorry it took me a while to get back to respond since my claim. Well, on the last day Ryals just kept giving me that he's evil vibe. So i gave him an investigate and got that he is against me. Weather that means serial killer or mafia im not sure. But all I know is that i think he is against me. Now, the way i see it, either 1 of us is evil or im paranoid/crazy cop. I think the only real choices now are to lynch me or steve. The way i see it, no mafia would sacrifice himself just to take down an innocent without knowing there role. A cop could sacrifice himself for a mafia. If he is evil I'm sure i'll get protected, if he isn't i'll proberly die the next day no matter what i say. But with 2 evils dead already i think my sacrifice is worth getting rid of another. Less mafia working together means less co-ordinatied voting.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 22, 2008, 11:55:13 AM
you still havent given a name hammerbro and you have been quiet this game which is a mafia tactic
why would steven be lying as he would only be gone in the night or tomorrow
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 22, 2008, 12:05:04 PM
I'm Sheriff Hackman. Why would i be lying as well Blue?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 22, 2008, 12:10:15 PM
Dunno what to make of all this seems very odd.

At the minute I am swaying with Hammerbro being a crazy cop and steve being who he says he is to be honest. Does not make sense Hammerbro to do what you did how you did it to me to be honest??? But if you were mafia then why??? And Steve has been concitant throughout on his story I feel.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 22, 2008, 12:31:46 PM
knowing how stupid these games can make people look we have a crazy cop forcing both himself and a roleblocker type role having to claim...

but if its down to believing one or the other il believe hammerbro over steve.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 22, 2008, 01:04:55 PM
1) whats your role called?
2)with regards to question 2 and your last post,you said you cant answer every post. there were 2 posts at least where you were asked about your views on the apparent demise of the cult.
3)are you the cult deputy trying to quash rumours of the cult still being around???

I've answered all that amadjin, maybe you should read instead of back up hammerbro..

thing is, hammerbro is useless to the town as a rogue/paranoid cop.  would it not be better to dispense of a role that will continually confuse the town and force all of our power players to have to role claim with his false positives?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 22, 2008, 01:22:31 PM
Does it not make more sense to lynch the person who has come back as evil? That way, we get the same answer, but we also keep the cop for future results that help us find the evil. We only risk losing a cult doctor.. a cult that could only possibly be able to recruit once every two nights now that the leader is dead. If at all. Which role would be more useful?

I think we're seeing who the mafia are here. Not necessarily stevenryals, his story might be true, or he might be cult - i don't think he's mafia. But the ones who've come out since hammerbro's claim and voted for him. It makes no sense that he would be making a mafia move. It makes a lot of sense that the people wanting to lynch someone claiming a cop would be the mafia though.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 22, 2008, 01:26:29 PM
Does it not make more sense to lynch the person who has come back as evil? That way, we get the same answer, but we also keep the cop for future results that help us find the evil. We only risk losing a cult doctor.. a cult that could only possibly be able to recruit once every two nights now that the leader is dead. If at all. Which role would be more useful?

I think we're seeing who the mafia are here. Not necessarily stevenryals, his story might be true, or he might be cult - i don't think he's mafia. But the ones who've come out since hammerbro's claim and voted for him. It makes no sense that he would be making a mafia move. It makes a lot of sense that the people wanting to lynch someone claiming a cop would be the mafia though.

This should have the question "Why are people suggesting we lynch a cop, to see if he's paranoid?" at the start. The first paragraph was written as if i'd asked it anyway.

I'd like to hear what some more people think about this all though, rather than the same 5 or 6 going round in circles.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 22, 2008, 01:45:31 PM
Vote Hammerbro as that statement is madness and for me steve in an easy target for you guys. Really can not understand why you did that.

i can tell you don't take much notice. he says he is the cop so for you to doubt him and vote for him. that blatently puts you with the accused as very potentially evil

and also to lynch a cop would be really f**kin stupid unless your anti-town,it would be wiser to oust the accused before deciding to wether the cop should be lynched.

SEVERELY FOS: wesmancity and trick pony
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 22, 2008, 01:46:23 PM
I've answered all that amadjin, maybe you should read instead of back up hammerbro..

thing is, hammerbro is useless to the town as a rogue/paranoid cop.  would it not be better to dispense of a role that will continually confuse the town and force all of our power players to have to role claim with his false positives?

you havent answered number one steve,you;ve only described what your role is about...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 22, 2008, 01:58:33 PM
It really doesn't strike me as a mafia move to come out and claim cop that they have investigated somenone and that he had investigated someone if he hadn't. Maybe he is paranoid or maybe they are both mafia and making a sacrifice of Steve so that Hammerbro would appear good for the rest of the game? Or am I paranoid??? lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 22, 2008, 03:00:31 PM
It really doesn't strike me as a mafia move to come out and claim cop that they have investigated somenone and that he had investigated someone if he hadn't. Maybe he is paranoid or maybe they are both mafia and making a sacrifice of Steve so that Hammerbro would appear good for the rest of the game? Or am I paranoid??? lol.

I know where you're coming from, but i think they'd have done it the other way round if that was what was going on. It would have made more sense anyway.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 22, 2008, 03:12:38 PM
It makes a lot of sense that the people wanting to lynch someone claiming a cop would be the mafia though.

I will promise to you hammerbro will be either 1) mafai  2) paranoid cop..

I've posted my role, the entire thing straight away..  hammerbro has done nawt, but all of you seem to be going with his story ..  he's mafia and you'll find out soon enough I guess..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 22, 2008, 03:20:04 PM
I'm Sheriff Hackman. Why would i be lying as well Blue?

Sheriff Hackman?! That would be from The Unforgiven and would have nothing to do with the Spaghetti Westerns.

I call you out sir Vote Hammerbro

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 22, 2008, 03:21:39 PM
you havent answered number one steve,you;ve only described what your role is about...

I wrote every single bit of my PM from hammer in my own words  I'm reverend Leone, it doesnt say anything after that excpet what I wrote before, if you'd like for me to repeat myself I can..  but that's my role in its entirety..


by the way, has anyone looked up sherrif hackman?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 22, 2008, 03:31:16 PM
the sherrif in the good the bad the ugly was "John Bartha ...  Sheriff (as John Bartho) " per IMDB at least..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 22, 2008, 03:44:40 PM
Sheriff Hackman?! That would be from The Unforgiven and would have nothing to do with the Spaghetti Westerns.

I call you out sir Vote Hammerbro



That changes things drastically. I'm not a western fan myself, but is that true? Good pick up if so. Part of the reason i was thinking he was telling the truth, was because it would be an absolutely ridiculous tactic for a mafia player. But it seems to be the case that he was indeed using a ridiculous mafia tactic. Bizarre.

vote Hammerbro
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 22, 2008, 04:26:11 PM
yep, that is an excellent pickup SVH

hammer has either borrowed a few chars from other westerns for the game(but wouldnt he of done it from eastwoods sphagetti series?), or Hammersbro is a complet nugget and guessed a name badly...

There is no other choice really.
VOTE HAMMERSBRO

after reading this day's events so far, I'm also pretty convinced Amadjin is working with Hammersbro, due to the fact the way he has tried hard to make the shit stick Steve. I think its safe to say SteRyals is pretty high on my safe list now. Hammersbro today, then Amadjin tomorrow i reckon.  :D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 22, 2008, 04:35:05 PM
by the way, has anyone looked up sherrif hackman?
ive looked, ive serched and i cant find any reference to a sherrif Hackman in the Good the bad and the ugly...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 22, 2008, 05:01:05 PM
quick update.. 

hammerbro (stevenryals, wesmancity, trickpony, SVH, hippo, happyaxeman)
Stevenryals (hammerbro, amadjin)
Trick Pony (trickpony)
Yorkshireblue (Mikeblue)

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 22, 2008, 05:10:35 PM
18 player game...

Vigilante = Blondie(Eastwood), the Good - Investigate/Kill?
Serial Killer = Angel Eyes(Van Cleef), The bad - Kill?
Mafia (3/4 members?) = The ugly - 1 Kill? Bluestars
Evil Cult (2 members?) = MIASG - Recruit
Anti Cult? 1 member = StevenRyals? cult roleblocker
Roleblocker = TCH
doctor = ?
masons (2members)

would mean 11 or 12 peeps in an 18 player game with power roles leaving just 6
normal townies...
if i'm correct about the above roles available this would mean there could be 3 kills per night, so day 1 would mean blondie investigated someone? unless there is also a sherrif and blondie is just a role who can kill... but he wouldnt be called Sherif Hackman would he?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 22, 2008, 05:27:36 PM
I started to read back from day one but have ran out of time, got chores and stuff to do shortly... and i'm doing what i hate reading myself, conexctutive posts from the same person, but oh well. lol
I'm pretty darn sure Currieman is MIASG's cult partner in crime. Ive said in a previous post in day one that i was thinking he was mafia, and backed it up with a vote, but i'm now sure he is Cult.. its just that frienldy banter shit you sometimes see early in the game when you know someone is on the same team, there early exchanges seem to stand out from the pages to me.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 22, 2008, 05:51:18 PM
:laugh: Bizarro. I am just a normal townie I'm afraid Axeman, don't see why you're so adamant that I'm working with MiasG just because of those jokey posts at the start. I can't remember exactly how it came about (as it was deleted) but anybody could've said what MiasG said and I would've said the same thing, I was just trying to liven the game up at the start like I did when the game really started.

Anyway, what Steve picked up on is good stuff, if he's made up the name then we've got him and it was an absolutely crazy move. Steve's story is consistent, he's posted more and to me he does look less mafia like than Hammerbro but that is mainly because of Hammerbro's bizarre name claim. Before that I would've said that it was a better option to lynch Steve because then we only lose a cult doctor guy (and we can assume the cult is pretty useless now if it does still exist after it's leader's death) rather than lose a cop. And if Steve was telling the truth then we'd know that Hammerbro was either mafia or a paranoid cop. But yeah, evidence points directly towards Hammerbro so vote Hammerbro
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 22, 2008, 07:09:15 PM
had a look on on internet can't find any reference to sherrif hackman in the film ... but I can't find any refrence to the character steve is claiming to be either ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 22, 2008, 11:19:11 PM
I think I know where hammer got my character, after looking at IMDB, i noticed some of the off the screen positions were filled by a fellow by the name of 'sergio leone'...  dont see any reference to a hackman anywhere..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 23, 2008, 01:26:07 AM
Well i cant say where my brother got his characters from but i'm still a little confused on the lynching of a cop claim? The way i see it, if you lynch me and im a cop, you've lost a cop and know steven to be evil. He gets lynched tomorrow. If you lynch steven and he isnt mafia, i get lynched the next day and you lose a cult protecter in a game where the cult leader died first night. It just doesn't make sense to lynch me over my result.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 02:28:01 AM
hammerbro why dont you give more information about your role?  do what I did straightaway, and post the details of your role..

you've been reluctant to give your name, and you've still not given details as to your role..

the reason you've avoided doing this is because you're afraid the wording wont be what we have in our own role as town members..  go ahead hammerbro..  give your full role.. dont quote the pm, but give as much info as you can, refer to my claim post if you need more information because I've posted my full roll..  your turn..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 23, 2008, 09:49:45 AM
hammerbro why dont you give more information about your role?  do what I did straightaway, and post the details of your role..

you've been reluctant to give your name, and you've still not given details as to your role..
What? He did give us his name, albeit SVH has found to be a name not related to the film, and he's a cop, what more detail could you want? Basically a cop gets to investigate 1 person per night and will be told whether they are guilty or innocent depending on whether or not they are good or evil.

Feeling the pressure a bit are we Steve? Looks like you're trying to latch on to anything you can to prove Hammerbro wrong but not doing it very well :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 23, 2008, 11:48:37 AM
Yeah pretty much, I'm Sheriff Hackman. I can investigate 1 person a night to find out if there with me or against me. I win when the bad guys are out of the town. I am the town cop. More to the point I'm still under the pressure of alot of votes and am still confused on why the cop is being lynched as apposed to the person the cop has outed. Surely it would be completely idiotic for a mafia to come out in an attempt to kill someone when surely they could just nightkill them if they wanted them dead that badly.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 23, 2008, 01:01:57 PM
Was there a sheriff in the film? (I've never seen it) Because surely that is what the name of the cop would be in the game? Unless there are 2 cops and Hammer had to give 1 of them another name that he got from some other film. I'm can't stop swaying with my thoughts here. Hammerbro does look very plausible and it is probably the better idea to lynch Steve because then we only lose a useless town role if Steve is telling the truth whereas we could lose a cop if Hammerbro is telling the truth. On the other hand, Steve does have a pretty consistent thing with the things he said towards the start of the game but then again, he could've just made that up and stuck to it all the way through, gambling that there would be a cult.

At the moment I am more inclined towards lynching Steve purely because we lose a useless townie if he is telling the truth whereas we would lose a cop if Hammerbro is telling the truth. 1 of them is lying, we just need to work out which one and I honestly can't tell right now!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 01:29:56 PM
Feeling the pressure a bit are we Steve? Looks like you're trying to latch on to anything you can to prove Hammerbro wrong but not doing it very well :laugh:

absolutely, i have the feeling that you guys are going to lynch me, then lose 2 or 3 townies over night then lynch hamerbro who will probably turn out to be a low level mafia or a paranoid cop..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 01:36:36 PM
At the moment I am more inclined towards lynching Steve purely because we lose a useless townie if he is telling the truth whereas we would lose a cop if Hammerbro is telling the truth. 1 of them is lying, we just need to work out which one and I honestly can't tell right now!

No, you wont lose a useless townie, you'll lose a useless townie and then activate the night phase, and then lose two more townies (probably not useless ones either).  We've already lost the roleblocker, so only the doctor can help stop the night kills, and he has to guess right or he's useless..

I was hoping that in hammerbro's description it would have some hint to him being a paranoid cop, but there is none that I can pick up..  I really think he's mafia, I dont think theres a chance of a paranoid cop..

and it DOES make sense for mafia to sacrifice himself..  he gets rid of me, then they have 2 or 3 kills in the nightphase..  what's bad about that? oh, hammerbro gets lynched tomorrow..  but then its night then and they get 2 or 3 more kills..  so lets say..  1 mafia down (hammerbro) and 4-6 town dead..  sounds like a good tactic for mafia to me..  cant believe everyone is saying what a stupid idea it would be for mafia to do that..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 23, 2008, 02:27:17 PM
had a look on on internet can't find any reference to sherrif hackman in the film ... but I can't find any refrence to the character steve is claiming to be either ???

Theres no sherriff hackman in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, Gene Hackman plays the sheriff in The Unforgiven which was made in the early 90s which also starred Clint Eastwood. I dont think that Der Hammer would create such a character when IMDB is so easy to look up

I have them all on dvd by the way
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 23, 2008, 02:29:32 PM
Im sure theres not even a sheriff in the film

Sergio Leone is the name of the director.

Why would you role claim on the second day? Makes you a mafia target for the night phase but thats not a problem because you are lying
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: *Afroboy* on July 23, 2008, 02:48:53 PM
What about sheriff john bartha? I've looked on wikipedia and saw this guy

My dads got the clint eastwood films as well..... but they are on video and we don't have a video player anymore :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 02:53:21 PM
What about sheriff john bartha? I've looked on wikipedia and saw this guy

his name is John bartha, but played sherrif Bartho (genuis!), or at least thats what I get from IMDB..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on July 23, 2008, 03:33:12 PM
No, you wont lose a useless townie, you'll lose a useless townie and then activate the night phase, and then lose two more townies (probably not useless ones either).  We've already lost the roleblocker, so only the doctor can help stop the night kills, and he has to guess right or he's useless..

if your both right,we are going into that situation no matter what,so surely it would be better to go with the cop for tonight? id rather lose the guy who says he a cult blocker than the cop who says the previous is actually evil.if im wrong come the lynching by all means lynch hammerbro tomorrow,but we are being incredibly stupid to not believe the cop on his first investigation if he is indeed a cop.one question,have you only investigated steve?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 23, 2008, 03:37:23 PM
if your both right,we are going into that situation no matter what,so surely it would be better to go with the cop for tonight? id rather lose the guy who says he a cult blocker than the cop who says the previous is actually evil.if im wrong come the lynching by all means lynch hammerbro tomorrow,but we are being incredibly stupid to not believe the cop on his first investigation if he is indeed a cop.one question,have you only investigated steve?

There has only been one night hasn't there?

Right ok, I think that Steve may well be telling the truth, howeve the way things have panned out common sense tells me to lynch Steve and then go from there with the results known. I still however am pretty sure Yorky is evil too, and he has been laying very low lately so to me is even more sus. He was really under the gun at one stage in the first day and didn't have a lot to say. If you look back there is tons of evidence against him, but for now I guess its lynch Steve then Hammerbro if Steve is innocent.

UNVOTE YORKSHIREBLUE

AND

VOTE STEVENRYALLS
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 03:44:40 PM
I WILL not be lynched today by that goon..  wont be happening..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 03:46:16 PM
listen to SVH, read his posts.. you'll see exactly what's going on here..  hammerbro is lying.. it's a bold lie, and quite frankly its a bad one.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 23, 2008, 04:26:37 PM
Gene Hackman played a sheriff and Hammerbro says his role name is Sheriff Hackman. Sergio Leone is the director and Steve's role name is Reverend Leone. Anyone see a pattern there? They both have 2nd names of and actor or director, not actual characters from the film. Maybe that's the way Hammer chose to do it?

Also, how do you figure that the mafia would kill 3 people during the night phase? Last night only 2 people died so that would lead me to believe there is only 1 mafia family and possibly a vigilante/serial killer. If we lynch you Steve, we lose a townie if you're telling the truth but then know that Hammerbro was lying so get a guaranteed mafia lynch tomorrow and that'll leave us with 2 townies dead (TCH and Steve) and 2 mafia dead (Bluestars and Hammerbro) and also the cult gone (unless there's a deputy) with MiasG dead. In the night phase tonight we could lose a townie but the serial killer/vigilante did kill the cult leader yesterday so they may get lucky again and get a mafia member.

End of the day either Steve dies or Hammerbro dies. We either lynch 1)a mafia member, 2) the cop or 3) the townie cultblocker. However we will kill a mafia member during today or the next day. I am going to Vote StevenRyals as I'd rather run the risk of losing the useless cultblocker than losing the cop
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 23, 2008, 04:31:12 PM
Vote count anybody?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 23, 2008, 04:36:31 PM
Gene Hackman played a sheriff and Hammerbro says his role name is Sheriff Hackman. Sergio Leone is the director and Steve's role name is Reverend Leone. Anyone see a pattern there? They both have 2nd names of and actor or director, not actual characters from the film. Maybe that's the way Hammer chose to do it?

Also, how do you figure that the mafia would kill 3 people during the night phase? Last night only 2 people died so that would lead me to believe there is only 1 mafia family and possibly a vigilante/serial killer. If we lynch you Steve, we lose a townie if you're telling the truth but then know that Hammerbro was lying so get a guaranteed mafia lynch tomorrow and that'll leave us with 2 townies dead (TCH and Steve) and 2 mafia dead (Bluestars and Hammerbro) and also the cult gone (unless there's a deputy) with MiasG dead. In the night phase tonight we could lose a townie but the serial killer/vigilante did kill the cult leader yesterday so they may get lucky again and get a mafia member.

End of the day either Steve dies or Hammerbro dies. We either lynch 1)a mafia member, 2) the cop or 3) the townie cultblocker. However we will kill a mafia member during today or the next day. I am going to Vote StevenRyals as I'd rather run the risk of losing the useless cultblocker than losing the cop

As currie says I think it's clear now that hammer has mixed up the names cause some of us were complaining that people where ruining the game by just giving there name out...

this also means that both hammerbro & steve could both be telling the truth and hammerbro is probably a parnoid cop.....

& the mafia are laughing at us
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 23, 2008, 04:46:04 PM
Vote Count

hammerbro 6 (stevenryals, wesmancity, trickpony, SVH, hippo, happyaxeman)
Stevenryals 4 (hammerbro, amadjin, Mikeblue, Currieman)


Not Voting 6

8 Votes to get a lynch

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 23, 2008, 05:09:00 PM
Right feck it my first thought was that Steve was telling the truth and Hammerbro was a paranoid cop so am sticking to that train of thought.

unvote stevenryalls and vote yorkshireblue
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 23, 2008, 05:15:48 PM
It does appear that Shammer has picked the names himself instead of using characters from the film. Whos seen unforgiven? Could Gene Hackmans character be a proper cop, paranoid cop, crazy or a bad cop?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 05:42:03 PM
It does appear that Shammer has picked the names himself instead of using characters from the film. Whos seen unforgiven? Could Gene Hackmans character be a proper cop, paranoid cop, crazy or a bad cop?

Thing is Hammerbro, hackman wasnt in the Good the Bad the Ugly at all.. he was in a different movie all together.. 

My role was given "reverend Leone" based on the writer/directors last name..   Gene hackman wasnt even in that movie..
here is a list of characters in the good bad ugly movie.. 
here's what we can do.. 
dont say if your name is or isnt on here, but look at the list.. if your hame is on here somewhere... chances are that hammerbro is lying and he's mafia.. if your name came from unforgiven.. then we can consider the strong posibility of a paranoid cop..

heres the list:


 Eli Wallach ...  Tuco

 Clint Eastwood ...  Blondie
 Lee Van Cleef ...  Sentenza / Angel Eyes
 Aldo Giuffrè ...  Alcoholic Union Captain
 Luigi Pistilli ...  Father Pablo Ramirez
 Rada Rassimov ...  Maria
 Enzo Petito ...  Storekeeper
 Claudio Scarchilli ...  Bounty Hunter in Ghost Town
 John Bartha ...  Sheriff (as John Bartho)
 Livio Lorenzon ...  Baker
 Antonio Casale ...  Jackson / Bill Carson
 Sandro Scarchilli ...  Deputy
 Benito Stefanelli ...  Member of Angel Eyes' Gang
 Angelo Novi ...  Monk
 Antonio Casas ...  Stevens
 Aldo Sambrell ...  Member of Angel Eyes' Gang
 Al Mulock ...  One-armed Bounty Hunter (as Al Mulloch)
 Sergio Mendizábal ...  Blonde Bounty Hunter (as Sergio Mendizabal)
 Antonio Molino Rojo ...  Capt. Harper (as Molino Rocho)
 Lorenzo Robledo ...  Member of Angel Eyes' Gang
 Mario Brega ...  Cpl. Wallace
rest of cast listed alphabetically:
 Chelo Alonso ...  Stevens' Wife (uncredited)
 Román Ariznavarreta ...  Bounty Hunter (uncredited)
 Frank Braña ...  Bounty Hunter #2 (uncredited)
 Saturno Cerra ...  Bounty Hunter (uncredited)
 Luigi Ciavarro ...  Member of Angel Eye's Gang (uncredited)
 William Conroy ...  Confederate Soldier (uncredited)
 Jesús Guzmán ...  Pardue the Hotel Owner (uncredited)
 Víctor Israel ...  Sergeant at Confederate Fort (uncredited)
 Nazzareno Natale ...  Mexican Bounty Hunter (uncredited)
 Ricardo Palacios ...  Bartender in Socorro (uncredited)
 Romano Puppo ...  Clem (uncredited)
 Antonio Ruiz ...  Stevens' Youngest Son (uncredited)
 José Terrón ...  Thomas 'Shorty' Larson (uncredited)
writing creditds:
Directed by
Sergio Leone   
 
Writing credits
Luciano Vincenzoni   (story) & 
Sergio Leone   (story)

 
Agenore Incrocci   (screenplay) (as Age) & 
Furio Scarpelli   (screenplay) (as Scarpelli) & 
Luciano Vincenzoni   (screenplay) & 
Sergio Leone
-------------------------------------------------------
do you understand what I'm saying here?  there are plenty of names on this list for him to have chosen  names for everyone without having to go to another movie.. 

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 23, 2008, 05:46:48 PM
Yeah but now you can just have everybody saying a name from that list is theirs and nobody will know whether they're telling the truth or not so that really doesn't help us figure out if you or Hammerbro are lying ::)

And Mike, I can see why you want to vote for Yorkshire (he was my main suspect on day 1) but it's a bit pointless voting for him when it's blatantly gonna be either Hammerbro or Steve that gets lynched today. You may as well have voted no lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 23, 2008, 05:47:21 PM
Mine isn't there lol.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 05:50:54 PM
Mine isn't there lol.

no.. apparently you didnt get what I was saying..

if you name IS on the list say nothing but take note..
if not..  then say nothing and take note..

mike.. search your name under actors in the IMDB database and see what comes back.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 23, 2008, 05:53:16 PM
Well dont you think that if i was making up a random name i would of used the name of someone from the film. As opposed to picking the name of an actor who was in a completely different film.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 23, 2008, 06:00:17 PM
Someone coughs...sputters.. and collapses. It was Footballnewb. He was just an old man with a bad case of whooping cough. He dies peacefully and the day continues....

Players Alive
stevenryals
hippo
Trick Pony
HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Laserblue
Afroboy
Currieman
Amadjin


Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One
Footballnewb/Unknown: Passed away via modkill on Day Two
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 23, 2008, 06:04:22 PM
no.. apparently you didnt get what I was saying..

if you name IS on the list say nothing but take note..
if not..  then say nothing and take note..

mike.. search your name under actors in the IMDB database and see what comes back.. 

I did get what you were saying.......but I just wanted to say still that my name is not on there and I thought it was funny for some reason and wanted to share lol.

In a stupid mood today "sorry y'all"  :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 23, 2008, 06:05:47 PM
Did we get a mafia killed then sir hammer?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 23, 2008, 06:08:41 PM
well amadjin's names not there cause he said he had not got one & i'm sure someone else said that too ... mike says his names not there , hammerbro's claims his names not there.. steve's is only half there & there may well be others who either don't want to say or have not read this yet so I think going off names in this game is pretty pointless.......

vote TP cause he has seemed pretty sus to me so far .... i'm also still sus of mophead fos mophead

just seen hamers post ... suppose were not going to discover what he was till the end which makes things a bit more complicated  ???

he deserved to die though

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 23, 2008, 06:09:08 PM
Did we get a mafia killed then sir hammer?

FootballNewb wasnt contributing so there was no point him continuing. Just act as if he was never playing.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 23, 2008, 06:41:55 PM
unvote hammerbro

since we found out that Hammer's an incompetent mod, and names mean nothing.

Which means i'm going back to my original theory with regards to how we have to play this. A cop has told us he has found somebody guilty - we have to therefore act on it. If he's lying, we'll know straight away. If he's paranoid, we'll know straight away. But the most likely outcome is that he is in fact guilty. The other options are probably about 5%.

It makes absolutely no sense to suggest that hammerbro is making a mafia move. Claiming cop falsely is something a mafia could do, but later in the game when it could win them the game by staying alive the one extra night - it's pointless at this stage. Suicide in fact. And they're already one down.

It doesn't make sense what stevenryals is saying either, whereby the mafia can benefit because they get to take "a few more townie lives". Unless there's something bizarre, the mafia would take 1 life per night, and they'd do that whether hammerbro (if, like steven is suggesting, he's mafia) was alive or not. Unless it's a 2 person mafia, which is pretty unlikely. So no, that doesn't make sense.

Saying he's paranoid is a ridiculously long shot too, in my eyes. Most cops are not, we can't just not lynch guilty people, because that person suggests the cop must be paranoid. It's a possibility, but if we start saying stuff like this, we'll never actually lynch anyone. Put yourself in the same position: you're evil, you've been found guilty, what are the things you're going to suggest to get out of it? Exactly.

It just seems like he's been found guilty, and is trying to take the cop out before he goes, to help the rest of his evil group for the rest of the game. Got bloody close thanks to that name thing too.

So yeah, i think we have to vote stevenryals.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 07:24:24 PM
I think it's pretty silly of you hippo to not consider that something's amiss here..  considering your background in the game and experience..

i'll try to lay it out for you.

I was the catalyst for bluestars lynch

i hinted twice early on at my role

someone has hinted at a counter claim to hammerbro but hasnt fully said it (could be wrong, but sure seemed a strong post in the direction of a counterclaim)

both my name & hammerbro's name seem consistent with the was hammer is naming the town with a general character first name (sherriff, reverend, etc) and an real persons last name.   
Maybe you didnt notice that because your role is named differently possibly?  wonder why yours may be different? i cant say for certain, but if all the townies look at their name, i bet they will be similar unless they are yet unnammed like amadjin (which im still not convinced of by the way).

if there's a paranoid cop, then there must be a real cop as well..  whom I think I am aware of..  and per their posts I think he's investigated someone who's been online today..  i wish the rest of the town would get on and read the posts, because I think something is there and you all havent picked up on it..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 23, 2008, 08:19:11 PM
I'm not saying him being paranoid is completely out of the question, because it isn't. Like i said, there's about a 5% chance of it. And i'm not saying he definitely isn't mafia, because i don't know - i don't think it would make sense, but i don't know. It's my "background in the game and experience" that says, as a rule, you lynch somebody who has been found guilty via an in investigation. Because on the vast majority of occasions, they are guilty. Honestly, who would you have voted for, had it not been you accused?

I was the catalyst for bluestars lynch

What i remember happening, was you pointed something decent out about her, and then completely changed your mind when a few people voted for her, even accusing me of "risking losing us a townie power role" by accusing her. You then only re-voted for her when you realised that she was definitely going to be lynched (after all of your threats of suicide in fact). So no, steven, you weren't as important to the lynch as you've been trying to claim today. You tried to stop it a few times.

i hinted twice early on at my role

You hinted that you knew there was a cult, and claimed something vaguely under pressure from myself. It's not like you just decided to do this to leave a few clues - you were having a stress about me finding you suspicious at the time, and decided you needed to claim something to try and diffuse the pressure.

someone has hinted at a counter claim to hammerbro but hasnt fully said it (could be wrong, but sure seemed a strong post in the direction of a counterclaim)

I didn't think it was wise to highlight this, surprisingly. You did. Great work. Was this done because you realise you might not make the night phase, and wanted to make sure whoever else you're with had picked up on it? If you're a townie, that makes it even crazier.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 09:03:35 PM
What i remember happening, was you pointed something decent out about her, and then completely changed your mind when a few people voted for her, even accusing me of "risking losing us a townie power role" by accusing her. You then only re-voted for her when you realised that she was definitely going to be lynched (after all of your threats of suicide in fact). So no, steven, you weren't as important to the lynch as you've been trying to claim today. You tried to stop it a few times.

this is not the first time you've skewed the truth in this game hippo, which is something you usually never do.

what happened, in reality, was after Amadjin jumped in to support her, we all went after amadjin, and at the time that I took my vote off bluestars there were only a couple of votes, and as I stated many times, I was not sure if she was a powerful protown figure or mafia, as her style had changed so much..  you've read the pages, so why skew the facts?  if the facts arent what you want them to be, then they just aren't..  lying = mafia


You hinted that you knew there was a cult, and claimed something vaguely under pressure from myself. It's not like you just decided to do this to leave a few clues - you were having a stress about me finding you suspicious at the time, and decided you needed to claim something to try and diffuse the pressure.

i hinted early on as to my role, and then before being lynched i continued with a bit more info, now everyone knows my whole role, almost every single word of it..  the fact that you continually go after me after I've claimed over and over  my role, and have largely ignored hammerbro will not look good on you later on, you can be assured of that hippo..  apparently hammerbro & i are the only two that know what's going on out of the 5 of us who are actually playing this game..  after I'm lynched and found innocent, it will be your lack of pressure on hammerbro that will hopefully be to your demise, because i'm finding you more sus every moment..

I didn't think it was wise to highlight this, surprisingly. You did. Great work. Was this done because you realise you might not make the night phase, and wanted to make sure whoever else you're with had picked up on it? If you're a townie, that makes it even crazier.

let me get this straight..  you saw it, you understood it, yet you changed your vote from hammerbro to me? even though someone just refuted his claim..  if you're a townie you should have just ketp your keyboard locked, and i wouldnt have had to continue to defend myself..  and yet another thing that makes you sus hippo..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 09:16:09 PM
Actually come to think of it, when hammerbro was first called out for his 'hackman' role, you didnt go after him, you simply said:

That changes things drastically. I'm not a western fan myself, but is that true? Good pick up if so. Part of the reason i was thinking he was telling the truth, was because it would be an absolutely ridiculous tactic for a mafia player. But it seems to be the case that he was indeed using a ridiculous mafia tactic. Bizarre.

You actually defended yourself for going after me and not him..

after many posts that are 500+ words in my direction... the moment where oen player because more sus than anyone has been thus far, you do nothing but excuse yourself.. 

same team maybe?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 23, 2008, 10:35:44 PM
I'm confused, I can't see this counterclaim :doh: Steven, to me you are looking a lot like a mafia person that is clutching at straws trying to make anyone but yourself look evil, especially with your trying to deflect the blame onto Hippo now. Just in the way you are wording everything you say it isn't really looking like a townie way to respond to me, you just seem to be trying too hard and are re-iterating stuff that you've already said when it's not even relevant to the points being made.

My vote is staying where it is
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 10:40:57 PM
I'm confused, I can't see this counterclaim :doh: Steven, to me you are looking a lot like a mafia person that is clutching at straws trying to make anyone but yourself look evil

no, not anyone, just hippo..  i found it interesting that he saw the counterclaim, and admitted it, and the next post he changed his vote from hammerbro (who had just been counterclaimed) to me.. 

so, can you tell me how a townie is supposed to act when they have a knife at their throat?  I've posted my role, I've got a mafia player lynched, there's been a counterclaim, yet people are still pushing on me..  So, I'm not going to defend myself anymore..  I have nothing left to say..  you all know everything about me, and in regards to hammerbro you know "sherriff hackman"..  i posted my whole role straight away..  do you want me to post my PM for gods sake?  I may be a useless townie, but I'm still a f****ng townie and dont want to get sacrificed..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 23, 2008, 11:07:22 PM
what happened, in reality, was after Amadjin jumped in to support her, we all went after amadjin, and at the time that I took my vote off bluestars there were only a couple of votes, and as I stated many times, I was not sure if she was a powerful protown figure or mafia, as her style had changed so much..  you've read the pages, so why skew the facts?  if the facts arent what you want them to be, then they just aren't..  lying = mafia

Right, i'm not lying at all. And i'm willing to go back and find the quotes if it's necessary. But, you could save me the trouble by answering the following:

- Did you not lie about bluestars' previous roles, to justify the idea that her change in style could mean she was a powerful townie? And then when someone pointed out that what you said was untrue, did you not refuse to acknowledge the fact that you'd lied (repeatedly), and carry on saying that it could mean she was a powerful townie?

- Wasn't she leading the vote count already, heading in to a deadline, when you finally re-applied your vote?

I don't expect you to answer, because you've avoided answering a lot of questions this game.

And if anyone's in any doubt about the answers, go back and have a read. Might be quite enlightening for you.

Lynching you is the only possible way forward. We can't lynch someone claiming to be a cop without knowing that they're definitely lying. And we don't. Yes, you've claimed, but should we just believe it? I've said a number of times that i don't necessarily trust hammerbro more than you, but that's not the issue. The issue is whether we want to risk losing your role or a cop. And that's really no choice is it?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 11:10:44 PM
Sorry hippo i didnt read you post..  I noticed though that you are still directing at me.. even after a counterclaim..

I've posted my role, end of for me..  Im not going to sit here and defend myself against an obvious mafia member and a fake cop who's role claim is so weak it's unbelievable..

I've told you EVERYTHING you need to know..  and I'm not going to continue to repeat myself..

if you want to ignore the counterclaim that you have said you noticed..  and vote off an obvious townie.. fine by me..  do what you will.. but you'll be lynched soon anyway, because after I'm dead everyone will look back and say, hey it was hippo who said he saw the counter claim, and still went after stevenryals and never went after hammerbro...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 23, 2008, 11:20:58 PM
A counterclaim would involve someone claiming the same character. They didn't. They didn't even claim anything; admittedly we both took it like that, but it wasn't necessarily was it. If it was, they said they were a different one, with a different name.

In this game, we know there is a mafia, a cult, and one other role that can kill. This other role could be anything from a vigilante, right through to another mafia. So there are potentially three evil groups. But you seem to think it's impossible we have 2 different sane cops? 2 sheriffs in fact, in a western. That'd be crazy wouldn't it? We'd need two for balance.

I don't expect you to answer, because you've avoided answering a lot of questions this game.

Sorry hippo i didnt read you post.. 

Priceless.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 23, 2008, 11:29:38 PM
I didn't think it was wise to highlight this, surprisingly. You did. Great work. Was this done because you realise you might not make the night phase, and wanted to make sure whoever else you're with had picked up on it? If you're a townie, that makes it even crazier.

obviously you saw this as a claim..  but now you say:

A counterclaim would involve someone claiming the same character. They didn't. They didn't even claim anything; admittedly we both took it like that, but it wasn't necessarily was it. If it was, they said they were a different one, with a different name.

so it's not a claim?  if it's not.. then why not mention it? 

I see you're still after me, and not worried about anyone else in this game..  well done, at least you're making the townies job easy tomorrow after they find out I'm innocent, and it's mostly your fault that they're down a townie..  so then we'll have two mafia to go after, so at least that gives us a little advantage..

another thing...

So there are potentially three evil groups. But you seem to think it's impossible we have 2 different sane cops? 2 sheriffs in fact, in a western. That'd be crazy wouldn't it? We'd need two for balance.

We may have two different sane cops, but i'll assure you that hammerbro is not one of them..

it's amusing watching you try to make sense..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 24, 2008, 12:57:12 AM
It's even more amusing watching you avoiding answering why you lied to protect bluestars, yet again. But anyway.

I said it wasn't a "counter claim", and potentially not even a claim. I didn't mention it, because i didn't think it wise to draw attention to it. It has no baring on what we're talking about. A different cop is saying you're guilty. That's why i'm voting for you. If there's another one, fair enough, but it's nothing to do with what this one is saying about you. Unless he's going to say he investigated you, and you've come back innocent. Then it would matter obviously.

Other people are saying the exact same thing as me, but are unwilling to get in a conflict with you about it - which of those actions do you reckon is the most mafia like? Do you genuinely think that i would openly argue with you, clearly in the belief that you're actually guilty, if i knew you werent? I'd lay low because i'd have something to hide and let others say the obvious. I'm not stupid, i know i'm an easy target if i'm wrong. I wouldn't make myself such if i genuinely was dodgy. I also wouldn't have spent fucking hours going through every post to compile statistics and everything to try and find out who the evil people are, but that's by the by. If you weren't so pre-occupied with saving your own skin anyway you think you can, then you'd know this.

Here's my observations about other people during this period. for the record..

Amadjin has posted once i think, since Axeman pointed out that he was seemingly trying to push through a lynch on stevenryals. Taken a step back. Maybe some substance to it?

Trick Pony was on my list of suspects, and he was one of the first people to come out and vote for hammerbro, before there was really any question about what hammerbro was saying. That didn't go unnoticed. Yorkshire Blue did the same and i don't think he's posted since.

Mikeblue was another i mentioned, and he has taken an easy option by voting for someone not involved in any of this. Again, this is suspicious.

But none of this matters today. A COP HAS FOUND STEVENRYALS GUILTY. Like i said before, steven, who would you vote for in that situation? The cop or the one found guilty? I already know the answer of course, not that you'll admit it now.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 24, 2008, 02:29:21 AM
It's even more amusing watching you avoiding answering why you lied to protect bluestars, yet again. But anyway.


considering I'm the one who got her lynched..  I think this is you starting to reach mate.. 

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Do you genuinely think that i would openly argue with you, clearly in the belief that you're actually guilty, if i knew you werent?

absolutely, because you know I'm onto you, and I believe you and your mafia friends want me gone badly.. 
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If you weren't so pre-occupied with saving your own skin anyway you think you can, then you'd know this.


if you were really after mafia you wouldnt be after me, and then i could spend my time going after mafia.. WAIT.. that's actually what I'm doing now..  because I'm convinced your mafia..

But none of this matters today. A COP HAS FOUND STEVENRYALS GUILTY. Like i said before, steven, who would you vote for in that situation? The cop or the one found guilty? I already know the answer of course, not that you'll admit it now.

Please explain to me why you chose to refer to him as "THE COP", believing him blindly, and you refer to me as "the one found guilty" and not "reverend leone"? 

here's the way I see it hippo, YOU are the one trying push this lynch through, referring to him as cop and me as guilty, ignoring my role and simply assuming that his is accurate based on his word after spending the whole first day not participating in the game.. 


Hippo, you've made two mistakes:

1) when SVH pointed out that Sherriff Hackman was in a different movie, you responded by defending yourself since you had been wrong and trying your best to lynch me, instead of going after the facts and trying to find the truth, you went with what, at the time, was the easy lynch..  now you think I'm the easy lynch and you're back to me..  you my friend are mafia..  and you've slipped

2) when _____ counterclaimed, you recognized it and immediately changed your vote to me.  when at the time you should have interrogated hammerbro to gain more info, but to you it meant nothing because you had decided the run on hammerbro was over and I was now the easy lynch..

Hippo is mafia
Hammerbro is a paranoid cop, not sure if he's mafia, but der hammer has had paranoid cops before and I think that's what we have here..


the fact that hippo doesn't feel comfortable enough to let the town make their decisions, and he keeps posting trying to put more and more pressure on me instead of concentrating on anyone else says the world to me..  there are plenty of sus people..  and after i pushed the lynch on bluestars who turned out to be one of his partners in the mafia..  i was certain of bluestars until I questioned my own judgement..but I was right in the end..  and I'm certain of hippo.. 

hammerbro, i'm not certain.. he actually seems kind of clueless and may be a paranoid cop, so I wouldnt recommend lynching either one of us.. I've read back and decided to UNVOTE hammersbro
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 24, 2008, 02:31:11 AM
(by the way, right now it's just hippo and I playing this game..  where the heck are everyone else?)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 24, 2008, 08:10:24 AM
Sitting here reading, trying to make up my mind on who we should lynch. If only MIASH was in the game I could have made up my mind for certain by now  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 24, 2008, 10:01:32 AM
Steven is evil, nuff said. Trying too hard to avoid being lynched. You say all this stuff about you not wanting to defend yourself anymore and avoiding lots of questions being asked of you and then constantly try to deflect the attention onto other people. You say that Hippo has some sort of vendetta against you today even though there are other suspicious people. What the fuck is that about!?

Yes, there are other suspicious people but a cop has just claimed that you are guilty, what do you expect us to do just ignore it and let you live today? It's just in the way that you post Steven, it really looks evil to me and not how countless townies have died. When a townie is lynched they usually always start by defending themselves and trying to show that other people are guilty but they do eventually just give up and say "I give up, lynch me, I know that I'm innocent but kill me if you don't believe. Just make sure that you take note of X, Y and Z who got this little bandwagon rolling". Obviously you could just be wanting to stay alive a lot more than other townies have in the past but I just think you look evil in how you are desperately trying to survive this lynch and the best way to do that is by trying to pick up on little things people have said to make them look guilty.

Not gonna wash with me, I seriously think you are evil now
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 24, 2008, 10:34:02 AM
considering I'm the one who got her lynched..  I think this is you starting to reach mate.. 

Argh. This is really annoying me. It's a lie, and i'm going to prove it. The following is largely the same as an earlier post.

Some good points made about Bluestars

Bluestars, in the last 3 games you've played, you've been town..  each time you have waited until the end of the day after heavy research before posting a vote..  you have now posted 3 or 4 times and now you are already voting..  you are playing a very different game.. 

you my dear, are mafia and I'm very sure of it.. 

i'm 99% sure she's evil.. 

you are evil dear..  and not very good at it I must say...

strange..  all of your posts are long.. you have read 7 pages of posts to get to this point in just 2 1/2 days..  if you're so busy how have you worked all this into your rigorous schedule?

..and the bizarre change of heart

however..  as I've gone back over the game today..  I've decided that yes, bluestars has changed her style of play to the extreme..  this may be because she has a highly important role for the town..

Just for those not really paying attention. That previous quote makes no sense. She had CHANGED her style of play, and in the three previous games she had been a cop (highly important role for the town), hobbit/mason (highly important role for the town), mason (important role for town. He lied about these, as highlighted below in the following quote, but it happened more than the once. He has also refused to answer why he did this many times since, including within the last page or so.

I've said it before..  I think it's clear at this point to everyone that she has a role with some action..  looking at past games, she's never had that.. normal townie, normal townie & mason.. so her change in style could be a result of her being mafia or her being a pro town role..  I've said we should go after Amadjin first and then look back to bluestars tomorrow plenty of times.. 

That last bit might have caught your eye. He's openly stating that we SHOULDN'T lynch bluestars, we should come back to it. Few more examples of this:

I've clearly said we shouldnt lynch her TODAY... 

we should re-evaluate her tomorrow based on the nights actions..

vote amadjin, if he turns out to be guilty as i suspect, then I almost positive that we'll have a guilty verdict for bluestars as well.. 

That last one's pretty standard. Linking bluestars and amadjin, but saying we should lynch amadjin first, and whatever he is will show us what Bluestars is. Completely abandoned this now she's gone though, Steve? Pretty sure that's an indication that it was only something he was saying to protect her, and not something he believes, otherwise it would surely have followed through to today in his accusations?

The situations when he voted for bluestars

He voted for her first on July 01, 2008, 2:53:00PM. This was her first vote.
He unvoted for her on July 01, 2008, 7:02:06PM. She was back down to zero votes after this.

So just to highlight, his getting her lynched, involved having his vote on her for 4 hours, 9 minutes and 6 seconds.

Then came all the stuff in the "..and the bizarre change of heart" section.

Then he revoted her on July 10, when she already had 4 votes, and was leading the vote count. This vote happened after he'd repeatedly stated he was going to commit suicide, rather than vote for her apparently.

In the time between his initial vote, and then re-applying, he voted for FIVE other people. Is that really an indication he spent this time getting her lynched? He looked for every possible option, including suicide, before giving up and voting for her.

So yeah, he DID NOT "get bluestars lynched". He's lying.

Sorry for the long post and everything, but he's lying repeatedly, and it annoyed me, because i know he knows that some people only half-read the thread, and will believe what he's saying. Hopefully this post proves what he's saying is false. None of what i've said is "skewing the facts". This post is completely factual. That's why he won't respond to any of the important things i ask him, because he knows i'm right.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 24, 2008, 10:42:34 AM
I'm not so sure anymore. I'm begining to think that my lucky guess last night (ingame) wasn't as lucky as i thought. Read up on unforgiven and Hackmans character in that could very well be a paranoid cop. Hmm. Also, i dont think defending yourself too much could after mean your evil. Every role would defend themselves to the death. Or should at least. I really hope Steven hased duped me but Unvote: Stevenryals... FOS: Stevenryals. Just so you know your not clear just yet.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 24, 2008, 11:49:31 AM
Was just thinking. What happens what a cult tries to recruit mafia. Cult dies. The cult leaders dead. Therefore he went for a mafia. Now who does the cult try and recruit. Strong players. Such as Hippo. Bit thin i know but..... FOS: Hippo
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on July 24, 2008, 12:10:54 PM
It does appear that Shammer has picked the names himself instead of using characters from the film. Whos seen unforgiven? Could Gene Hackmans character be a proper cop, paranoid cop, crazy or a bad cop?

Not exactly a good guy. Theres no nice characters in that film really
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on July 24, 2008, 12:15:10 PM
i think that they are both town theres not really much else happened
my vote is staying on tp
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 24, 2008, 02:22:41 PM
Was just thinking. What happens what a cult tries to recruit mafia. Cult dies. The cult leaders dead. Therefore he went for a mafia. Now who does the cult try and recruit. Strong players. Such as Hippo. Bit thin i know but..... FOS: Hippo

That doesn't really make much sense. You're saying i'm the only strong player? But anyway, MIASG attempting to recruit a mafia member is one possibility yeah. I did post earlier in the day saying it was an option, along with there being a third killing role/group, potentially town or evil, because the two players who died - MIASG and TCH - had both been under some suspicion. Could have been the work of a vigilante, but might have been the work of an evil group.

As for this paranoid stuff, i guess you'll know for definite tomorrow if you get back an innocent (well, unless you're an insane cop, which i think is one who just always gets it wrong, but if we start thinking like that, we really will never decide anything). So hopefully the doctor is somebody who reads the posts.

Fair play to steve though, i don't think i've ever seen someone whose been found guilty by a cop, manage to talk everyone around? That's got to earn him some kind of award in the hall of fame.

Did anyone read the stats and stuff i did right before this roleclaim thing kicked off? I genuinely think it had some definite patterns, but nobody else seemed to comment.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 24, 2008, 02:43:34 PM
hey hammerbro..  I have an idea..  and this may or may not work..

if you are a paranoid cop..  then you will get a guilty for anyone you investigate..  if I get lynched I will be found as a town member, then you will subsequently get lynched..  and if you're town that will be two lynches and two night phases where townies are lost.. 

so, here's my suggestion..  if you are actually an paranoid cop the only way to know is to investigate someone you know to be innocent..  and the only person you know to be innocent so far is who?  yourself..  I'm sure there are no stipulations in your role that say you cannot investigate yourself, should just say you can investigate one person each night..  and if you're paranoid you will come back as guilty as well..     if you come back innocent (which you wont), then the town can either lynch me or I will post my role as to avoid another night phase (thats how hammers games have been, getting mod killed doesnt necessarily mean the end of the day i.e. footballnewb)..

and hippo.. i noticed you're still going after me.. what will you do when I'm found to be innocent, you're setting yourself up ..  you know I'm innocent, it would be smart for you as mafia to lay off and hope that I dont get lynched at this point.. becuase if I am lynched you'll be the next to go.. hopefully at least..  I know you'll say "if I was mafia I wouldnt be so vocal" yes you would.. you are vocal in every game regardless of role..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 24, 2008, 03:11:00 PM
i think that they are both town theres not really much else happened
my vote is staying on tp

What the hell is this???? Not much happened???? Are you for real???? OMG trying to lay low and show your face or what????

Steve that sounds like a good idea I like your style. Like I have said all along I thought you have both been telling the truth and I have to agree Hippo's insistant efforts to get you lynched are rousing my suspicions of him to be honest. He is really going for the easy lynch and at the end of the day if he was mafia and managed to get you lynched it easy for him to turn round and say "well what was I supposed to think the cop said he was evil" FOS HIPPO

I believed from the start that neither of you were mafi it just didn't make sense to me at all. The only thing which is strange as far as I am concerned is Hammerbro's lack of posting then suddenly claiming cop which was unusual to say the least so for me there is some serious conspiracy going on here or just strange play.

One thing for sure though is the pages of evidence against YorkshireBlue and that last post says it all reall!!!! If he is not trying to glide through then I am a monkeys uncle!!! What have you contributed and when have you tried to help the town??? You dear sir are EVIL

My vote is well and truly remaining on YORKY!!!

Any chance of hearing from somebody else rather than the usual half dozen??? To me this makes it more difficult to believe that Ryalls and Hammer are mafia as I think the mafia are sitting back laughing at us accusing innocents and they don't need to get involved just glide through like YORKY!!! Nobody has tried to defend anyone and they (mafia) are just letting us crack on. The only person really pushing it is Hippo.....maybe he thinks its the most logical thing to do as a towny or maybe he is being a sneaky mafia trying to get the bandwagon going with an easy excuse for a bad lynch????
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 24, 2008, 03:24:46 PM
Like I have said all along I thought you have both been telling the truth

this is a sus statement..  when hammerbro claimed cop, you HAD to believe that either he or I one were evil..  since then your mind may have changed..  but from the beginning everyone had to think that one of us had to be evil..  I assumed straight off that he was mafia, then the idea of paranoid cop came up and here we find ourselves in the situation that we're in..

I'd say any town member would assume that one of the two would have to be guilty..

mafia however, would know that both are innocent..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 24, 2008, 03:32:52 PM
this is a sus statement..  when hammerbro claimed cop, you HAD to believe that either he or I one were evil..  since then your mind may have changed..  but from the beginning everyone had to think that one of us had to be evil..  I assumed straight off that he was mafia, then the idea of paranoid cop came up and here we find ourselves in the situation that we're in..

I'd say any town member would assume that one of the two would have to be guilty..

mafia however, would know that both are innocent..

Jesus Christ talk about disecting a post and scrutinising every word! lol. I am town I don't need to re read and check everything I have wrote cause am not trying to hide anything.

But well picked up. What I meant obviously was when both of you had come out and given your views that is the conclusion I came to. To be honest initially for some reason I thought Hammer was mafia cause it seemed so strange to do what he did........but now I think it was just strange play on his part and maybe he thought he would be protected.

Not to say for one minute either of you are out of the woods as you are both still obviously highly suspicious but I am keeping with my original vote for the person I have found most sus the whole game. If I am wrong I am wrong but I want to make my own decisions this game and not get sucked in to any Mafia bandwagons and stick to my insticts and gut feelings. These are telling me right now that Yorkshire is evil!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 24, 2008, 03:59:23 PM
Just had to point that out, was a sus statement, and we may have to go back to that..

stevenryals - reverend leone
hippo - mafia..
Trick Pony -  mafia..
HappyAxeman - mafia..
 
mophead -  useless..  maybe a mod kill in day 3 if he doesnt get to it..  but i think he's town
Mikeblue - ?? made a very sus statement, and had a very rough first day.. could be mafia..
SVH - probs town..
Hammerbro - confident he's a paraniod cop, if not he's mafia.. but i'm leaning towards sherriff hackman
Wesmancity - ??? seems to be mafia
Yorkshireblue - useless..  50/50 due to inactivity..
Laserblue - seems town so far speaks little but sounds sensible
Afroboy - same here
Currieman - back and forth..not sure on him.. probably town..
Amadjin -  claimed, but didnt have a named role, such as sherriff hackman or reverend leone.. could be that all mafia have no name roles such as "Mafia henchman" as in bluestars case..

So 14 people left..  prob 5 maf left, and the posibility of a cult, which i see as a slim shot..

someone mentioned something earlier that was interesting.. 

there are historically 2 ways for MIASG to have been killed as the cult leader.. 1) serial killer/vig killer..  and 2) by trying to recruit a mafia member..  if he was killed by trying to reruit mafia..  where was the serial/vigilante?  I think I know the answer to that.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on July 24, 2008, 04:04:01 PM
Are you going to give us the answer to that???

I was Vigilante in X-men and I could kill or investigate so maybe if their is a vigilante he chose to investigate.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 24, 2008, 04:13:16 PM
I was Vigilante in X-men and I could kill or investigate so maybe if their is a vigilante he chose to investigate.

different mods
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 24, 2008, 04:21:41 PM
Would you like my name and role, to save you blinding yourself further, simply because i've accused you (with facts, something which you still refuse to acknowledge)?

I agree about Trick Pony, he was one of my main suspects based on research. I said earlier as well that one of the 4 who had less than 10 posts at the time - hammerbro, newb, axeman and svh - would be evil, and just trying to lurk. Since then we've learned things about 3 of them through their activity, or being modkilled (i know he didn't reveal a role, but i can't see it being mafia). And that leaves Axeman. So yeah, he's a strong possibility too.

Yorkshire Blue i'd say is likely to be the other one, because of the way he came on and voted for Hammerbro straight away. Saw an opportunity to get rid of what was potentially a cop and jumped on it, and then recently has said nothing's going on. Complete lack of effort to find the evils. He seems dodgy.

I also find mophead suspicious, because of his inactivity and again, not being on the list of people that voted for bluestars.

And finally, amadjin for doing that mafia claim thing on day one, and completely backing off since Axeman suggested he was trying to force a lynch on stevenryals a bit much. Could even have been mafia communication going on there - Axeman subtley telling amadjin to back off, and let some other mug (me) say the potentially incriminating stuff.

As for this vig stuff, a bounty hunter would be somebody who could investigate or kill. It's a possible. Someone's had it before in a Hammer modded game anyway.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 24, 2008, 04:36:26 PM
I also find mophead suspicious, because of his inactivity and again, not being on the list of people that voted for bluestars.
 

I know I'm not supposed to.. but since I live with him..  I cant see him being evil..  he's not even bothered by the game this gime..  the last game he was very excited adn he was only beast..  he was on every day, but he's not even logging on now. and i've reminded him..  i think he's town, and probably going to get modkilled in day 3 or 4 unless he picks it up and gets involved..  but with 30 something pages.. i doubt that will happen..

And finally, amadjin for doing that mafia claim thing on day one, and completely backing off since Axeman suggested he was trying to force a lynch on stevenryals a bit much. Could even have been mafia communication going on there - Axeman subtley telling amadjin to back off, and let some other mug (me) say the potentially incriminating stuff.

I think amadjin's role claim was clever...  and it's got everyone confused..  i'd still stay aware of amadjin though.. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 24, 2008, 06:15:35 PM
wtf lol
I know Hammer can be a bit daft and weird, but surely he would not of used a char from a different film completely? he would of used something from the film or nothing at all, I have no name for my char, i'm merely a drunken bum. lol
the only link for Sheriff Hackman is the fact Clint eastwood directed the film... something like 20+ years after good the bad the ugly was filmed. ???

Hammer has in the past used paranoid cops. they give off the reverse verdict. so a 'with you' turns into 'against you'

I think Stevenryals is pro-town, hence why i voted Hammersbro as he looks as though he is lying. Lynching someone who has claimed cop could be bad... its a tricky situ. I guess hammer being hammer, you just never know what he's upto...

unvote Hammersbro

I havent read enough of the pages yet to gain many hunch's, But I still think Currieman is my only Prime suspect... Along with amadjin...
kill him and you also kill another? wtf is that all about. the only link i can think of from the film that could slightly resemble that is Blondie and Tuco. I doubt he's either of them.
VOTE AMADJIN
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 24, 2008, 07:19:34 PM
There's something about that last post that doesn't really sit right with me. Axeman, you seem to be making the occasional appearance, adding not alot and accusing/voting whoever has been mentioned in the post directly before yours. I know you've said you have no time, but it's coming across as very suspicious. As is saying you're "merely a drunken bum". It sounds like the sort of thing mafia would say, because they're not named and they can't think of anything plausible. It sounds ridiculous. Coupled with that, you didn't vote for bluestars on day one, which is pretty suspicious considering how she was, and you can't say you didn't notice because you weren't reading, because you said..

She doesnt seem pro-town.

and that's an acknowledgement that you'd noticed how dodgy she was, but chose to vote for currieman instead. Based on a hunch, from a joke. Why? It just seems weird.

The more you're saying, the more you're appearing mafia to me. When you voted for hammerbro, you did the mafia type thing of trying to set-up the next lynch before this one has even happened. You're dodgy.

FOS Happy Axeman
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 24, 2008, 07:58:21 PM
so we know that Amadjin, HappyAxeman & Mikeblue dont have names on their role.. 
and we know that "Sherrif Hackman" and "Reverend Leone" are named characters..
then we get this vital piece of information from hippo...


As is saying you're "merely a drunken bum". It sounds like the sort of thing mafia would say, because they're not named and they can't think of anything plausible.

This is a very definitive statement that mafia do not have names..  I've suspected that and wrote this..

Amadjin -  claimed, but didnt have a named role, such as sherriff hackman or reverend leone.. could be that all mafia have no name roles such as "Mafia henchman" as in bluestars case..

hippo seems to know this for a fact, and who could speak with such accuracy concerning the general role construction of the mafia...  only the mafia.. of course..

this, coupled with your last two slips that I noted on the previous page (i think, maybe 2 pages ago by now) makes you mafia in my eyes..

but nobody will ever know, because the only players in this game are me, hippo, currie, mike & a post here and there from axeman & yorkshire..  i have a feeling this game is dying.. 

but I think i'm on to something here..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 24, 2008, 09:41:29 PM
Right okay, firstly that isn't a definitive statement. It says it sounds like something they would say, in that situation. If you want to try and twist it, fair enough.

Got an answer to why you lied for bluestars on day one yet? Thought not.

My name is Piripero and i'm a regular townie, with the exception that i can help one person survive a night phase once within the game. I've used it, on mikeblue last night, in an attempt to prevent the whole "shoot one townie, get one free" scenario. Dunno if it protected him from any danger, but he was such an obvious target after it all, that i thought it was worth it.

Hence why when you started the day voting him straight away, saying that he should be dead, i didn't vote for him, and highlighted the fact that he'd also have been the number one target for protection.

So i guess i'm useless now, but i certainly ain't mafia.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 24, 2008, 11:02:14 PM
Got an answer to why you lied for bluestars on day one yet? Thought not.

got an answer why i pushed and pushed to get people to realize her change in play,  requesting time and time again that people go back and review past games and see the drastic change in her play?  why I had to request currieman & amadjin time and time again so they would have the background info to know the difference in her game play?

when you say I "lied" over and over..  that's a push isnt it..  how about when you like by editing a post that I made so that it sounded like I was saying something different from what I was saying..

your claim to me is crap..  you've seen the pattern of how the names have been given out, and you've had 2 days to figure out what your going to say.. 

had this been a TCH game, and every name was in the same movie, and theres the chance of a counter claim..  I may believe you, but nobody can put any trust on claims now that we've figured out that names are coming from all over from all kinds of western movies..  your claim and any other claim from here on should be reviewed but ignored.. 

you say:

Right okay, firstly that isn't a definitive statement. It says it sounds like something they would say, in that situation. If you want to try and twist it, fair enough.

when in reality, it was a definitive statement..  it's not a twist, it's the name of this game isn't it..

here's your quote:

It sounds like the sort of thing mafia would say,
because they're not named and they can't think of anything plausible.

and thats the definitive part there..   

to be honest, I cant remember you ever role claiming..

I'm going to try to look at past games and see how if you ever have role claimed..  because it seems like it's very easy to role claim a random character from any western and your chances of getting away with it are very high.. 

interesting also that yours is the first that's been mentioned that's actually a characters name instead of a take off of the actor..  will be back
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 24, 2008, 11:21:34 PM
i was wrong, he's claimed before a couple times..  but I couldnt remember..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 24, 2008, 11:46:53 PM
i think that they are both town theres not really much else happened
my vote is staying on tp

Yorky you seriously have no idea mate, I guess your still pissed from the last game  :laugh: I see you have taken the easy vote so you dont have to put a vote on your boss  ;)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 24, 2008, 11:52:03 PM
Are their any deadlines in place yet ?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 25, 2008, 03:04:30 AM
Are their any deadlines in place yet ?

NO there are no deadlines, if you want to get this game going , get in here and put yourself about..  you've been useless so far..  but that's because you're mafia.. so i expect no less from you..  so.. go back to work, and check in once every couple days..  and try to be as townlike as possible. 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on July 25, 2008, 04:36:52 AM
no point in this game, its dragging on and on all of the other boys including MIASH,TCH,FBN have stopped reading as it started going in circles. If there is a dealine people will jump online more as they know its going to progress. I dont see the point in saying anything for the town as I think its just townies up for the vote nomination at the moment and if I tried to sway a vote towards someone else then id just be seen as mafia. probably just easier to lynch me and get teh next day phase i could be bothered with this game its going to kill it off like what happened last time as TCH was just saying, which is why he always told everyone a deadline.

UNVOTE : HAMMERBRO VOTE:Trick Pony 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 25, 2008, 05:26:30 PM
I'm with you..

UNVOTE Hippo  Vote Trick Pony

this game is dying fast..
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 25, 2008, 05:54:24 PM
(how about we vote real quick on a deadline..   say, Wednesday of next week... have a lynch, or at least a good active game, or we call it and start the next one..  ?? thoughts?)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 25, 2008, 06:43:56 PM
It's just a pain in the arse that some people aren't posting very often. Obviously people have work (unlike me :D) but surely you could get on once or twice a day to add your thoughts? Not much point signing up to play otherwise really is there.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: stevenryals on July 25, 2008, 06:57:48 PM
Hi

You are Reverend Leone,
Its your mission to stop young men leaving the town team. Once per night you may pick someone to talk to. That person cannot be swayed by anyone trying to "recruit" them.
You win when the bad guys are run out of town.

Any questions feel free

there, now we should be moving along..

been fun..  sure hope you get rid of Hippo, TP, Axeman & Amadjin at some point.  :)

that's my last input..  I'll do better next game... but for the sake of the game, I do this.. hopefully it gets things moving..

Maybe a deadline is needed to get people involved...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 25, 2008, 08:18:44 PM
Thanks guys for not taking into the considerable amount of time I put into this game. Everything had a reason. Certain people complained about the names being too easy to claim, and catch the mafia. I fixed that with a completely new system.

The game is not intended for someone with 3-4 people voting them to get lynched. The point is that to get lynched you must have earned the ire of over half the town. Complaining that you have a boring role, or that not enough is happening is against the spirit of the game. If you want excitement go play Halo, if you want a long game with a psychological edge based on good thinking, and logic then play one of my games. I quit this game once because of the futility of it all.

It appears that this game is some peoples lives, and they get annoyed that I cant update it every second. Well, I've been at a wedding since 5:00Pm yesterday and got back home right now to find people are panicking about the deadline. Get over it and get on with it.


___

The day ends because Stevenryals is being modkilled....great.



Players Alive
hippo
Trick Pony
HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Laserblue
Afroboy
Currieman
Amadjin


Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One
Footballnewb/Unknown: Passed away via modkill for inactivity on Day Two
Stevenryals/Town Priest: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Two



There are about 6 people who have been very inactive in this game so far and if that contains then it ruins it for the rest of us. This will be the last I mod since clearly no one wants to the play the games I like to set up, which I think is a tad ungrateful since I am the forefather of Mafia on this board...maybe im too oldschool and now irrevelant.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on July 31, 2008, 12:16:45 PM
The day comes, and one more body is found on the streets.....The panic rises, the fear sets in, the desperation too.


Players Alive
hippo
Trick Pony
HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Laserblue
Currieman
Amadjin


Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One
Footballnewb/Unknown: Passed away via modkill for inactivity on Day Two
Stevenryals/Town Priest: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Two
Afroboy/Town Vigilante: Killed on Night Two


It is now Day Three. It will take 7 votes to get a lynch
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 31, 2008, 04:54:13 PM
So I was right about there being a vigilante. I'm guessing that's how MiasG was killed on night one. Annoying that the mafia killed him though. How the hell did they know Afroboy was a powerful townie?

We now also have the problem involving Hammerbro. Do we kill him now or assume he's a paranoid cop?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 31, 2008, 04:55:19 PM
Well... I got that Hippo is guilty. And since Stevenryals appears innocent i think we can take my cop work to be shite. Shame he decided to be a twat and get modkilled. Sort of ruins the game but oh well. I was thinking. The cult person who died on the first night, theres an extra kill on the first night. From the looks of things, there no vig/serial killer or they are choosing not to kill. Normally the serial killer doesnt have a choice so im assuming there isnt one. Now why was there an extra death night 1. I was also thinking, what would happen if a cult leader tried to recruit a member of the mafia. I think he'd die. Now im thinking that means he tried to recruit a mafia member. Now, if you could choose 1 person to be on your team you'd go for the strong players. Such as Hippo. Proberly the best player at this game. Since its the only thing i have to go on i'm gonna Vote: Hippo to get the day started.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 31, 2008, 05:21:38 PM
gutted, another townie power role dead.  >:(

so Hammersbro, let me get this right... you get a guilty verdict on Stevenryals and he then turns out innocent.  ???
this surely shows your a paranoid cop(results are reversed) or are completly lying... and then you get another guilty verdict on Hippo, so you vote for him? are you not using your brain?  ???
 ::)

I think maybe currie and miasg(cult) had tried recruiting someone, and MIASG ended up dead, hence curries new post... I'm sure he is cult...

VOTE CURRIEMAN
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 31, 2008, 05:48:44 PM
Well... I got that Hippo is guilty. And since Stevenryals appears innocent i think we can take my cop work to be shite. Shame he decided to be a twat and get modkilled. Sort of ruins the game but oh well. I was thinking. The cult person who died on the first night, theres an extra kill on the first night. From the looks of things, there no vig/serial killer or they are choosing not to kill. Normally the serial killer doesnt have a choice so im assuming there isnt one. Now why was there an extra death night 1. I was also thinking, what would happen if a cult leader tried to recruit a member of the mafia. I think he'd die. Now im thinking that means he tried to recruit a mafia member. Now, if you could choose 1 person to be on your team you'd go for the strong players. Such as Hippo. Proberly the best player at this game. Since its the only thing i have to go on i'm gonna Vote: Hippo to get the day started.

By my thinking this is spot on .... Vote Hippo

It struck me straight away that miasg had tried to recruit mafia & ended up killing himself.... THEN look at the way hippo tried to get steveryals lynched.... look at there posts for god sake steve is screaming out that hippo is evil

HIPPO IS EVIL VOTE HIPPO

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 31, 2008, 05:59:37 PM
I'd say that MiasG was either killed by trying to recruit someone or by Afroboy and then TCH was killed by the mafia. Then on night 2 it looks like the mafia killed off Afroboy and that is the reason there wasn't another kill on night 2 because with Afroboy dead he couldn't make his kill. That's how it looks to me anyway. Are Vigilantes only able to kill though? On night 1 Afro may have investigated someone who he then tried to kill on night 2 but was unable to as the mafia killed him.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 31, 2008, 06:07:18 PM
but the cop is paranoid and he has a guilty verdict on him? this means Hippo is either Mafia Godfather, or innocent...

your little comment has come just after i accused Currieman of being cult... have you been recruited by the cult laser? ???

theres 2 angles here, Hippo is innocent as proven by the paranod cop...or... hippo is Godfather making him look innocent to a cops investigation, and in which there was an attempt made by the cult to recruit him which in turn went wrong...

I'm not sure which way to go at the mo, but i think at this moment the cult could prove to be the most dangerous threat to the town surviving, let alone winning... vote remains on currie for time being.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 31, 2008, 06:10:17 PM
last post was in response to laserblue backing up currieman, then Currie comes on and trys to avert attention away?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 31, 2008, 06:34:03 PM
but the cop is paranoid and he has a guilty verdict on him? this means Hippo is either Mafia Godfather, or innocent...

your little comment has come just after i accused Currieman of being cult... have you been recruited by the cult laser? ???

theres 2 angles here, Hippo is innocent as proven by the paranod cop...or... hippo is Godfather making him look innocent to a cops investigation, and in which there was an attempt made by the cult to recruit him which in turn went wrong...

I'm not sure which way to go at the mo, but i think at this moment the cult could prove to be the most dangerous threat to the town surviving, let alone winning... vote remains on currie for time being.

My god did you read all the shit hippo posted to get rid of stevenryals this has nothing to do with hamerbro investiating hippo ... but he obviously right about the way miasg met his death.

if your innocent vote hippo .... i was certain bluestars was guilty but had to hassle people (with stevens help) in to voting for her ... I was right then .. 7 I'm sure I'm right now so vote hippo if your town >:(
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 31, 2008, 06:37:16 PM
I'd say that MiasG was either killed by trying to recruit someone or by Afroboy and then TCH was killed by the mafia. Then on night 2 it looks like the mafia killed off Afroboy and that is the reason there wasn't another kill on night 2 because with Afroboy dead he couldn't make his kill. That's how it looks to me anyway. Are Vigilantes only able to kill though? On night 1 Afro may have investigated someone who he then tried to kill on night 2 but was unable to as the mafia killed him.

Afroboy was at his grans so it couldn't have been him .... currie i believe you are good .. so go with me on this & vote hippo.... if i'm wrong you can lynch me later ;D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 31, 2008, 06:48:05 PM
My god did you read all the shit hippo posted to get rid of stevenryals this has nothing to do with hamerbro investiating hippo ... but he obviously right about the way miasg met his death.

if your innocent vote hippo .... i was certain bluestars was guilty but had to hassle people (with stevens help) in to voting for her ... I was right then .. 7 I'm sure I'm right now so vote hippo if your town >:(
to be honest, no i havent read it all, i'm still catching up. but what i have picked up on is the fact that hammersbro is obviously a paranoid cop and has a guilty on hippo. Yes, he could be godfather, but from what i can gather, i'd rather risk it as the cop has returned a TOWN verdict. i havent seen why i should vote for someone who has been investigated and proven town?
 and you just seem really defiant that i suspect currieman of being cult, which to me screams that you are cult too and have recently being recruited.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 31, 2008, 06:55:58 PM
to be honest, no i havent read it all, i'm still catching up.

I've kept up with the game from day one I know what's been happening... & I'm teeling you it's obvious he is evil ...... why do you suspect currie there are peeps who are much more sus than him.... you are usually the first player to pick up on evil.... what's happening to you .... don't tell me your with hippo?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 31, 2008, 06:57:33 PM
- 2 people died on night one
- 1 person died on night two
- the 1 person who died was a vigilante

And i have 2 votes because the two people genuinely can't explain why there might have been one less kill last night?

Er, use your brains.

I'm blatantly an easy target because i argued that someone found guilty should be lynched, and was wrong. Fair enough, but as hammerbro seems to think i'm good at this game, if i'd known that stevenryals was innocent, why the hell would i have argued and argued for him to be lynched? I'd obviously know i was going to be an easy target next day. The reason i did it, was because i genuinely thought that hammerbro was a proper cop that had a guilty on him, and i'm not in the business of just believing the claims of strong players in that situation - he could quite conceivably have been lying. He wasn't, fair enough.

What would be a mafia tactic though, would be to side with somebody that you know is probably going to be lynched in order to make yourself appear innocent once they're dead. A couple of people voted for hammerbro instantly yesterday, despite him claiming to be a cop, and one person is doing it right now. Axeman is a strong player, he knows what he's doing. He's defending me very deliberately, it seems.

vote Happy Axeman

And let's get this straight right. Stevenryals did not spend all of day one trying to convince people to vote for bluestars. Read the whole thing. He changed his mind about her after 4 hours, saying she could have a townie role and actually accused me for saying that i was risking losing a major townie role by voting for her, and i argued with him about why people should vote for her and that what he was saying didn't make sense. Read the whole of day one - don't skim read. Read it. I'm right, and Currieman and Amadjin both know this, because they pointed it out as well. And i was one of the first and loudest to vote for bluestars; that's also fact. If you've bothered reading the posts, as townies who actually were trying to find the mafia would have done, you'd all know this.

So let's not just be making stuff up, yeah?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 31, 2008, 07:17:24 PM
- 2 people died on night one
- 1 person died on night two
- the 1 person who died was a vigilante

And i have 2 votes because the two people genuinely can't explain why there might have been one less kill last night?

Er, use your brains.

I'm blatantly an easy target because i argued that someone found guilty should be lynched, and was wrong. Fair enough, but as hammerbro seems to think i'm good at this game, if i'd known that stevenryals was innocent, why the hell would i have argued and argued for him to be lynched? I'd obviously know i was going to be an easy target next day. The reason i did it, was because i genuinely thought that hammerbro was a proper cop that had a guilty on him, and i'm not in the business of just believing the claims of strong players in that situation - he could quite conceivably have been lying. He wasn't, fair enough.

What would be a mafia tactic though, would be to side with somebody that you know is probably going to be lynched in order to make yourself appear innocent once they're dead. A couple of people voted for hammerbro instantly yesterday, despite him claiming to be a cop, and one person is doing it right now. Axeman is a strong player, he knows what he's doing. He's defending me very deliberately, it seems.

vote Happy Axeman

And let's get this straight right. Stevenryals did not spend all of day one trying to convince people to vote for bluestars. Read the whole thing. He changed his mind about her after 4 hours, saying she could have a townie role and actually accused me for saying that i was risking losing a major townie role by voting for her, and i argued with him about why people should vote for her and that what he was saying didn't make sense. Read the whole of day one - don't skim read. Read it. I'm right, and Currieman and Amadjin both know this, because they pointed it out as well. And i was one of the first and loudest to vote for bluestars; that's also fact. If you've bothered reading the posts, as townies who actually were trying to find the mafia would have done, you'd all know this.

So let's not just be making stuff up, yeah?

the evil one has entered :bleh:....  & it looks suspiciously like he's trying to distance himself from his mafia buddy ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 31, 2008, 07:20:59 PM
er whats that vote for me for again? ???

i'm not trying to take sides with anyone, i'm a singleton townie, so the only person i can genuinely believe is true town is Hammersbro and the verdicts he gets from his investigations as he claims to be the cop, albeit a paranoid one... you so happen to be one he has investigated who is still alive.

I just have this feeling about Currieman. Ive stuck with my instinct throughout the game when ive posted, and i can now see an alliance with Laserblue.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 31, 2008, 07:26:50 PM
come on currie can't you see axemans attempt to save his mafia buddy's ass by deflecting attention on to you ... vote hippo

they have come out of hiding now ... come on peeps get on here & vote
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 31, 2008, 07:33:06 PM
come on currie can't you see axemans attempt to save his mafia buddy's ass by deflecting attention on to you ... vote hippo

they have come out of hiding now ... come on peeps get on here & vote
ha ha, how on earth can you even attempt to fit me up as being mafia on the basis that all i have said is that i'm going along with the paranoid cops verdict. ???
all i see is someone defending his colleague. maybe you and currie are indeed the mafia and not cult as i have already spoken off and you not mentioned anything in reply apart from deflection on your part? ???

stay off them funny fags, i have been and it makes things a little clearer. lol
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 31, 2008, 07:33:45 PM
the evil one has entered :bleh:....  & it looks suspiciously like he's trying to distance himself from his mafia buddy ???

Well, no. If you think Axeman would defend me blatantly if we were in a mafia together, you probably slightly underestimate him as a player. I'm pretty sure he's doing what i'm saying he's doing.

No acknowledgement of the other stuff though. Why?

Can somebody who has actually "kept up with the game from day one" and "knows whats been happening" please confirm or deny the stuff i said? Alright i was wrong about his role, but like i said earlier, if i knew if he was telling the truth or not, why would i be arguing about it and putting myself out there? I'm not stupid, i would blatantly have known this would happen if i was mafia. I didn't know.

Like i've already said, i'm Piripero, i'm a regular townie apart from i had one protection. Used it. I'm willing to be lynched in order to prove this, but it ain't gonna make you look good with all this begging people to vote for me.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 31, 2008, 07:37:54 PM
ha ha, how on earth can you even attempt to fit me up as being mafia on the basis that all i have said is that i'm going along with the paranoid cops verdict. ???
all i see is someone defending his colleague. maybe you and currie are indeed the mafia and not cult as i have already spoken off and you not mentioned anything in reply apart from deflection on your part? ???

stay off them funny fags, i have been and it makes things a little clearer. lol

Paranoid means he always finds people guilty. Insane means he always gets it wrong. I can't really tell which unless he finds someone innocent. If he does, that'll prove what i'm saying. If i'm lynched, that'll prove what i'm saying.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 31, 2008, 07:39:24 PM
Paranoid cop means you always get a guilty verdict. Doesn't matter who they are. So my investigations are basicly pointless now. My vote for hippo has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 31, 2008, 07:43:02 PM
Paranoid cop means you always get a guilty verdict. Doesn't matter who they are. So my investigations are basicly pointless now. My vote for hippo has nothing to do with it.

The cult person who died on the first night, theres an extra kill on the first night. From the looks of things, there no vig/serial killer or they are choosing not to kill.

Afroboy/Town Vigilante: Killed on Night Two

Like i said, you're voting based on a completely ridiculous reason.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on July 31, 2008, 07:48:35 PM
Paranoid cop means you always get a guilty verdict. Doesn't matter who they are. So my investigations are basicly pointless now. My vote for hippo has nothing to do with it.
no it doesnt, it means there reversed doesnt it? ???

oh well, that blows my theory if correct.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 31, 2008, 08:19:11 PM
paronoid cop gets guilty verdict whatever ... but hippo & axeman are trying desperatley to change the subject....

come on peeps vote hippo
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 31, 2008, 08:47:23 PM
paronoid cop gets guilty verdict whatever ... but hippo & axeman are trying desperatley to change the subject....

come on peeps vote hippo

What exactly have i changed the subject to? I'll point out what i've said for you again if you like:

- I've pointed out that Hammerbro's reasoning is severely flawed
- I've re-stated my name and role: Piripero, townie, one protection; used on mikeblue, on night one.
- I've told you why i argued blatantly yesterday - because i genuinely thought he was evil. It would make no sense if i was evil, to do that. I would have known it would make me an easy target for unimaginative types today.
- I was the third to vote for bluestars, and argued the reasons for it (with stevenryals arguing against, for the record). You say you two spent day one trying to convince everyone to vote for her. You were fourth. After me. Way after stevenryals had unvoted, and much before he started swaying back towards her being evil. So if anything, my arguing lead to your vote. Not the other way round.
- I've also stated that i'm willing to be lynched, just to prove a point.

Do you actually have a response to the fourth point, by any chance? Or are you going to admit you've hardly looked in to it at all?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on July 31, 2008, 09:18:19 PM
I don't think Hippo is evil at the moment. It's weird how people are now voting for him even though Hammerbro found him guilty. Hammer is obviously either an insane or paranoid cop. If he is insane, Hippo cannot be evil, if he's paranoid he might be evil. But the only thing I've really seen Hippo do wrong was think that Steven was evil. To be honest I was just completely confused about the whole Steve vs Hammerbro situation and with good reason obviously :laugh: Oh and Hippo is telling the truth about Steven. He even posted lots of quotes to show that on day 2.

If I was working with Laserblue do you really think he'd make it that obvious by posting what he did basically showing allegiance to me? To be honest, it makes me suspicious of him as he could be mafia and know that I'm townie and want to get on my side. But still you Axeman, seem to think I am evil and you seem to change your reasoning every day with none of them really being very good. I agree with Laserblue on one thing and that is that there are people that are more suspicious of me, yet you keep coming back to me and don't even take in what is going on with everyone else. Even on the last day with the whole Steven vs Hammerbro thing you still thought I was the most suspicious and didn't even seem to care about those 2 and just stuck your vote straight on me again.

Maybe you are mafia and are just trying to coast through every day by constantly voting for me and picking off the people that you know are townie every night.

At the moment I don't think Hippo is evil because he has been good for the town posting lots of good info, the only thing he's got wrong so far was thinking that Steven was evil but there was some evidence to support that. Hippo is too smart a player to be so stupid if he was mafia. If he was mafia he wouldn't be the main person standing out there trying to get everyone to lynch Steven when he knew Steven was innocent because then everyone would see that Steven was innocent and that would attract attention. If you're mafia you try to lurk in the background and survive the day so you can do you're killing at night, if you're lucky you can jump on a bandwagon to get a townie killed but you're not gonna be so blatantly obvious to get a townie lynched and expose yourself. That is why I think Hippo is innocent.

One of the most suspicious people is still Yorkshire Blue to me as well. I made a huge post about it on day 1 and he did exactly the same thing on day 2. He posted twice on day 2. Once to say that he thought Hammerbro was dodgy just after Hammerbro revealed he'd found Steven guilty. He seemed to think Steven was looking more townie than Hammerbro even though Hammerbro had just found Steven guilty. At that stage how he could think Steven was less suspicious than Hammerbro is weird.
Then in his other post all he says is that he "thinks they are both townie and not much had really happened" Possible freudian slip there?
Yorkshire is so suspicious, honestly, everyone, go back and read what I wrote about Yorkshire in my mammoth post on page 17. He posted 3 times in the first 9 pages (laying low), then he saw Mikeblue was looking a bit vulnerable, because of Mike's stupid posts that meant nothing, so posted about 8 times in 2 pages trying to show how Mike looked guilty. Then he went back to laying low again for about 9 pages and finally popped up to vote for Bluestars.

He just looks completely guilty to me so am gonna Vote Yorkshire Blue. Definitely mafia in my eyes
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 31, 2008, 09:57:48 PM
what are you mad

me & afroboy are off to majorca early tomorrow so I may not be able to get on for a couple of weeks

so i might as well tell you who I am & what I know then we might actually have a chance of winning this thing.



I am the cop, name deputy carlin, that's how I knew hammerbro was a paranoid cop

I also know that currieman is innocent

Hippo is guilty

And I think it looks like axeman is with him




I know how steve felt now when he was screaming that hippo was guilty and no one was listening
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on July 31, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
Well. Second cop clam. We have to go with it. Makes too much sense not to.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on July 31, 2008, 10:43:40 PM
Well you're lying.

Where the hell is that name even from? Have you just made it up? The deputy in the good, the bad and the ugly is just referred to as deputy, with no surname given (according to imdb). Like stevenryals' character was, and like Hammerbro's claim - in both of those cases, hammer seemed to assign the name of the actor. So the deputy should be called Scarchilli. Or the Sheriff Bartho. There doesn't appear to be one in Fistful of Dollars, and in for a few dollars more, there are a number, but none with the name Carlin or any link to it. In fact, i can't find anybody other than a comedian with the name.

Hackman, still questionable, but you can kind of understand it, being still associated with Westerns and all. But that? No chance. If he was using the sheriffs and stuff from unforgiven, you'd be called Andy Russell i believe, or Ratchford the actor name.

This is a really poor claim. I guess as you're going away, you've decided amongst yourselves to make a sacrifice to get rid of one of the few remaining threats to your group or something.

Whatever..

unvote Axeman
vote Laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 31, 2008, 11:17:03 PM
Too late for all that mate your guilty as sin & you know you are

>:DHIPPO IS MAFIA >:DHIPPO IS MAFIA >:DHIPPO IS MAFIA >:D



 :bleh:Vote hippo peeps :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on July 31, 2008, 11:23:10 PM


I'm off on my hols tomorrow early & don't know when I'l be able to get on again

so if you want to win town..... vote hippo ... then I think axeman  ;)

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on August 01, 2008, 10:27:24 AM
I wonder why you've not had any answers to anything today. Because you're lying. And it's ridiculously blatant.

Maybe our resident Western expert, SVH, can back me up on this. There's alot of sheriffs and deputy's in the spaghetti westerns, as well as Westerns in general. There would be absolutely no need for Hammer to make one up. It makes no sense. It's a REALLY poor roleclaim, and attempt to get rid of me - i guess they're thinking that if they can kill me in the day, sacrificing someone who's going away anyway, then that's almost the game; then Currie at night (if, as i suspect, he's town), and that's everyone who's paying attention to anything gone.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on August 01, 2008, 05:29:08 PM
Well it looks like this game has finally got going but some of the most frequent posters have quit the game and im in a rush!

I didnt believe hammerbro and Im not totally convinced now either. I shall have to read through some of these posts a little more thoroughly tommorow evening before forming a proper response.

The spaghetti westerns didnt really have sheriffs, those are more along the lines of the John Wayne style westerns. In A Fist Full of Dollars the Man With No Name pits two sides of the town against each other until he is the last man standing in order to clean up the town for a bounty.

Balls, I only just remembered this. Still doesnt make sense to be called Sheriff Hackman though considering that Gene Hackman wasnt in any  Spaghetti Westerns
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on August 01, 2008, 05:33:39 PM
I don't think the name discredits his claim in anyway. Chris would make up names but he proberly hasn't. But I reckon that theres a very hidden sutble reference there. I still think Hippo needs to go.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on August 02, 2008, 12:21:06 PM
vote hippo
he was the main one in stevenryals lynch and theres been a cop claim with hippo guilty
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on August 02, 2008, 12:54:56 PM
he was the main one in stevenryals lynch and theres been a cop claim with hippo guilty
A cop claim from a cop who investigated StevenRyals with it coming back innocent. Great reason.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on August 02, 2008, 12:55:27 PM
Sorry that's meant to say "a cop claim from a cop that investigated Steven with it coming back guilty"!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on August 02, 2008, 06:38:53 PM
vote hippo
he was the main one in stevenryals lynch and theres been a cop claim with hippo guilty

1) He didn't get lynched, so you haven't really read the game have you?
2) I voted for him for the same reasons as you're currently voting for me. I was wrong. You are wrong. I was also one of the main ones in the bluestars lynch, so you haven't really read the game have you?
3) This "cop" is lying.
4) Didn't you vote for hammerbro straight away yesterday for claiming cop? This one is less convincing and you've gone with him? Kinda starting to agree with Currie that you're probably mafia. With Laser i guess.

You've made no worthwhile contributions and you're looking for the quickest way to end the day again, without contributing. Dodgy.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on August 03, 2008, 01:08:20 PM
Wow!

Thats a strong claim from Laser and you would have to be daft to not give it some thought.

I don't think the names mean anything in this game as sirhammer appears to have used random names in an effort to stop all the role claiming and make it too straight forward. With this in mind I am paying no attention to the name or peeps saying anything about his name. What it basically comes down to is do I believe Laser??? MMMMMM intersting.

It is conceivable that the mafia are prepared to sacrifice one of their own knowing that he is going away but to be honest Laser has not struck me as being evil in the game as a whole. Maybe he has played the mafia role well or maybe he is telling the truth. It is also possible that Hippo has been recruited by the cult.

One thing I am sure of is thet Yorky is evil. He has just stood out from day 1 as being evil and I can't believe he has got away so lightly thus far. I have voted for him both days and see no reason to change my vote.

Will be interesting to see how this gets played out now so people get on here and make a contribution!

Vote Yorkshire Blue
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Trick Pony on August 04, 2008, 04:18:47 AM
Good luck to the townies though since im not playing this game I though i might as well have myself lynched, I will play the next game just this one got boring no offence to the mod.

Hi

heres your mafia role

You are a normal townie except you have two weopons. Your wisdom and your vote. use them wisely
You win when all bad guys are run out of town.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on August 04, 2008, 08:00:44 AM
ffs. Makes the game really shit if cunts keep modkilling themselves. I'd like an actual vote that matters on who dies.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on August 04, 2008, 10:10:28 AM
Yay, another modkill ::)

Yorkshire is evil by the way, it's so obvious!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on August 04, 2008, 12:38:24 PM
What a joke!

Right people just get on here and vote and get this game moving along a little faster.

Yorkshire Blue is evil just get him voted!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on August 04, 2008, 01:53:57 PM
This day is about to end anyway now, christ!


For the record I still think hammerbro is lying
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on August 04, 2008, 02:51:42 PM
The day contines.

TP's role

Hi
heres your mafia role
You are a normal townie except you have two weopons. Your wisdom and your vote. use them wisely
You win when all bad guys are run out of town.



Players Alive
hippo
HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Laserblue
Currieman
Amadjin


Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One
Footballnewb/Unknown: Passed away via modkill for inactivity on Day Two
Stevenryals/Town Priest: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Two
Afroboy/Town Vigilante: Killed on Night Two
Trick Pony/Townie: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Three

6 Votes to get a Lynch


Hippo (3): Hammerbro, Laserblue, Yorkshire Blue
Currieman (1): Happy Axeman
Laserblue (1): Hippo
Yorkshire Blue (2): Currieman, Mikeblue

Not Voting (4): Amadjin, Wesmancity, SVH and Mophead

The day continues
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on August 04, 2008, 03:06:35 PM
Well Yorkshire is blatantly mafia so can everyone just vote for him please and we'll have another mafia down
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on August 04, 2008, 03:24:53 PM
Yeah, i think so too. Explained my reasons in my last post, so unvote laserblue, vote yorkshire blue.

How long since mophead posted? or wesmancity? I don't really think what TP and stevenryals did was right, but at least they were up front and said they didn't want to play.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on August 04, 2008, 04:02:26 PM
vote yorkshire blue
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on August 04, 2008, 04:11:56 PM
How many is that?

We only need 6 but I'm struggling to think who else might come on to vote as some people haven't been seen/heard of in about 4 weeks!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on August 04, 2008, 04:14:42 PM
vote hippo

im gonna go with the cops claim on this one

cant really post much,using the local library to add my 2pence worth lol
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on August 04, 2008, 04:17:35 PM
vote hippo

im gonna go with the cops claim on this one

cant really post much,using the local library to add my 2pence worth lol
The cop who claimed StevenRyals was evil :doh:

Just vote for Yorkshire please!!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on August 04, 2008, 05:09:07 PM
what are you mad

me & afroboy are off to majorca early tomorrow so I may not be able to get on for a couple of weeks

so i might as well tell you who I am & what I know then we might actually have a chance of winning this thing.



I am the cop, name deputy carlin, that's how I knew hammerbro was a paranoid cop

I also know that currieman is innocent

Hippo is guilty

And I think it looks like axeman is with him




I know how steve felt now when he was screaming that hippo was guilty and no one was listening

The cop who claimed StevenRyals was evil :doh:

Just vote for Yorkshire please!!!!

The real cop has fingered Hippo. My claim on Hippo is meaningless. I get guilty on anyone i investigate. The other cop, the real cop got an innocent on currieman and a guilty on Hippo. All vote hippo down.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on August 04, 2008, 05:27:31 PM
The real cop has fingered Hippo. My claim on Hippo is meaningless. I get guilty on anyone i investigate. The other cop, the real cop got an innocent on currieman and a guilty on Hippo. All vote hippo down.

Well, he's not "the real cop", he's lying. BUT, i find it pretty strange that you've phrased it like that - the REAL cop. Implying that you're not real yourself. Everyone seems to be just assuming you're what you say you are - but, if we look at the facts, you've claimed with a name from a film that has nothing to do with this game, and you've told us that someone who isn't guilty was. Twice. And you didn't vote for bluestars on day one.

How many is that?

We only need 6 but I'm struggling to think who else might come on to vote as some people haven't been seen/heard of in about 4 weeks!

This is the problem really. Everyone who is actively playing has voted now.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on August 04, 2008, 05:28:19 PM
Crap forgot about that. Well OK, that's a good point and strongly points to Hippo being guilty but I still think Yorkshire is definitely guilty as well.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: mophead on August 04, 2008, 06:45:59 PM
hippo said to always go with the copso Vote Hippo

someone protect laserblue if your can
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on August 04, 2008, 09:51:49 PM
He's not a cop. He hasn't investigated me. He hasn't found me guilty. I guarantee you. You will see this. I'm willing to be lynched to prove it, but it's not really going to help is it?

If you look at the numbers, there are 11 people alive currently. I think 3 mafia, 1 cult, and the rest of us townies. The cult deputy, who will have been able to recruit once every two nights, will acquire one of these townies tonight, and the mafia will kill one of them. Starting tomorrow, there will be 9.. 3 mafia, 2 cult, 4 townies.

We can't afford to get this wrong. So don't.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on August 04, 2008, 10:09:28 PM
Here hippo is trying to save himself by using the tired "I would die to prove it, but don't." Also, i used the term real cop for laserblue because im not a real cop. I got a wrong verdict on stevenryals showing im a paranoid/crazy/dumb cop. The reason i believe laserblue is simple, if he were mafia it would be foolish for him to claim to be a cop. Because there will be a cop, he hasnt died and i've been proved as not a good cop. Therefore, there is a cop hiding and the second it looks like a fake cop is about to get a lynch he'd reveal and the false would die. Don't be intimidated by Hippo's ultimatium at the end.
We can't afford to get this wrong. So don't.
He's trying to make you think that if you lynch him and he isn't mafia that its your fault. Also, the first bit of his post,
He's not a cop. He hasn't investigated me. He hasn't found me guilty. I guarantee you. You will see this.
He is trying to sound so confident that you think he can't be mafia. Don't fall for that either. I'm willing to risk following laserblue and keep my vote on Hippo. I hope you all follow. If hippo is mafia and we lynch him, the town will be in a good condition, despite modsuicide.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on August 04, 2008, 10:17:51 PM
It's true, he's not a cop. You'll see why.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on August 04, 2008, 10:23:17 PM
1 more vote on Hippo and its night. 2 more for laserblue. Do we want to take out someone who might be innocent or someone who might be a cop. Laserblue is likely to die tonight inless he gets protection. Or currieman. Since he's a comfirmed innocent IF Hippo is mafia and laserblue is right. I assume theres a doctor out there to protect someone. I suggest its one of those two. The risk is worth taking Hippo down first.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: hippo on August 04, 2008, 10:28:43 PM
It's true, he's not a cop. You'll see why.

As long as you remember there's a cult. And something else about how the game works. Fuck it, i'm blatantly gonna be lynched. A cop doesn't find me guilty. He's a cult member who's using guesswork to try and get to the end. Don't let it work. I'm pro-town at heart.

Yorkshire's definitely mafia though. Or is he? Probably. And he's almost definitely going to kill mikeblue. Go mafia  ;) Worked well.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on August 04, 2008, 10:44:17 PM
I'm really confused by this now. I do believe Laser but only because he got a result saying I'm innocent which is true.

The thing is though that Yorkshire is voting for Hippo and I am convinced Yorkshire is evil so he's either killing one of his own to make himself look innocent or Hippo really is innocent. I'm just gonna have to go with my gut instinct though. Laser said Hippo is evil and I believe him. Unvote Yorkshire, Vote Hippo
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on August 05, 2008, 11:05:15 AM
The anger rises and Hippo is cruelly dragged to the hanging square were he is heinously lynched...has a terrible mistake been made?

Hippo (6): Hammerbro, Laserblue, Yorkshire Blue, Mophead, Currieman, Amadjin
Currieman (1): Happy Axeman
Yorkshire Blue (3): Mikeblue, Hippo, SVH
Not Voting (1): Wesmancity



Players Alive
HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Laserblue
Currieman
Amadjin


Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One
Footballnewb/Unknown: Passed away via modkill for inactivity on Day Two
Stevenryals/Town Priest: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Two
Afroboy/Town Vigilante: Killed on Night Two
Trick Pony/Townie: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Three
Hippo/Mafia Leader: Lynched on Day Three (6 Votes - Hammerbro, Laserblue, Yorkshire Blue, Mophead, Currieman, Amadjin)

We go into Night Three

Prods being sent out to those who have been inactive
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on August 07, 2008, 01:43:39 PM
The morning has broken, and the decision-making processes of this small community show clear signs of a vast policy network...or is my essay taking over the mafia world? See who died below!!!

Players Alive - 9

HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Laserblue
Amadjin


Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One
Footballnewb/Unknown: Passed away via modkill for inactivity on Day Two
Stevenryals/Town Priest: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Two
Afroboy/Town Vigilante: Killed on Night Two
Trick Pony/Townie: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Three
Hippo/Mafia Leader: Lynched on Day Three (6 Votes - Hammerbro, Laserblue, Yorkshire Blue, Mophead, Currieman, Amadjin)
Currieman/Neutral Lyncher: Killed on Night Three


It is now Day Four. It will take 5 to get a lynch. Lets see if there can go a day without someone commiting suicide.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on August 07, 2008, 02:27:46 PM
Laserblue
Not a cop. Godfather would show as innocent and currieman wasn't with us. Proberly is cult trying to get rid of the mafia. Lets make this quick.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: froganomis on August 07, 2008, 03:01:20 PM
vote laserblue

the godfather would definitely came up as innocent so my votes with laser
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on August 08, 2008, 09:47:12 AM
fantastic result on hippo... which like has been said above, is suggesting he is lying about being cop as we all know it would give an innocent verdict... but surely the real cop would of tried to stop the hippo lynch if knew laser was not telling the truth? I dont know... and currieman? what is a neutral lyncher? doesnt sound too much like a town, so was i right about currieman having a non town role along then? lol which if correct also points at laserblue talking shit...

the only thing that is worrying me is that Amadjin who is my suspect list has voted laserblue...
I'm a bit dubious about voting a claimed cop which has not really been contested, but the evidence is stacked against him.

not sure though, afterall hippo was infact mafia wasnt he...

which makes me wonder about Amadjin... maybe he can see a decent bandwaggon to jump on and start here?

VOTE AMADJIN

mophead, Mikeblue, SVH, Wesmancity, Yorkshireblue, Laserblue still to post...

mophead? is it worth him playing?
Mikeblue, has been strangly quiet, on my major suspect list for sure.
SVH? not sure
Wes, very quiet from him too.. its not like him. on my major suspect list.
Yorkie, Who knows? he is always hard to read. lol
Laserblue on Hols, cop or not? its a tricky one.
Amadjin. Clamied a strange role saying someone else will die too...  On my major suspect list... I now think he may be the 2nd cultmember(i'm guessing it started with 2)..

Hammersbro. Must be Paranoid Cop. and the only one i can mostly trust to be town... but if the cult have been recruiting, Hammersbro could now be one of them...
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on August 08, 2008, 04:09:26 PM
Vote: Laserblue Forgot the word vote last time.
Dead Players
Footballnewb/Unknown: Passed away via modkill for inactivity on Day Two
We could be incredibly unlucky and have our cop here dead and unknown. Could be why we haven't had a real cop claim despite 2 wrong result cop claims. Laserblue may of got us to lynch Hippo, but he got it by underhanded means which means he is either a townie who suspected Hippo and wanted to make sure he went down, or he's cult lackie sacifacing himself to further the leaders victory. Either way, he deserves a lynch. I just hope he's cult so we don't waste another kill on a team mate.

Baddiewise, i think we have 1/2 mafia left then possibly some cults, depending on if Maisg got a recruit before he died or if theres a vice. There is also proberly a serial killer as in a lone ranger kind of character. Any of these could be footienewb so we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 08, 2008, 05:36:25 PM
Sorry for the lack of posts, not going to much into it but moved house not got a connection and job has a new boss with internet issues. Im gonna try to get on after 5.30pm each evening but not thursdays as im off.

So back to the game, Vote Laserblue dont think hes a cop and deff sus imo
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on August 08, 2008, 06:59:15 PM
Vote Yorkshirblue again

For reasons stated every day.

Happy I have been one of the more frequent posters so dunno where you got that one from. Yorky hasn't posted in god knows how long and they have been utterly useless each time as well!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on August 09, 2008, 12:49:01 PM
the three that actually said they were mafia are still alive one as to be mafia (mophead,mikeblue, adjamin)
i think wesmancity and mikeblue are evil
mikeblue just always votes me and he is making himself sound like one of the main posters in his last post.
im sure he asnt posted alot
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 09, 2008, 01:33:07 PM
the three that actually said they were mafia are still alive one as to be mafia (mophead,mikeblue, adjamin)
i think wesmancity and mikeblue are evil
mikeblue just always votes me and he is making himself sound like one of the main posters in his last post.
im sure he asnt posted alot

Right Yorkshire ill put the test to you, What evidence have you got on me being evil please could you expain to the town :D

UNVOTE LASER, VOTE YORKSHIRE till you give me a valid reason and proof.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on August 09, 2008, 08:43:58 PM
i never said you was i said i think just a gut feeling
quick with the vote are you evil
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 10, 2008, 12:33:14 PM
i never said you was i said i think just a gut feeling
quick with the vote are you evil

not a good enough answer, this stage in the game and you THINK i might be evil is rubbish! do you want the town to win?

Yorkie matey you smell rotten pal.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on August 10, 2008, 02:58:16 PM
still the threat of the cult to contend with as well as the last of the mafia if we assume that theres 3. Tempted to vote Laserblue but what if hammerbro and amadjin are cult members? Lots of people didnt believe hammerbro initially including myself
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on August 10, 2008, 04:31:17 PM
still the threat of the cult to contend with as well as the last of the mafia if we assume that theres 3. Tempted to vote Laserblue but what if hammerbro and amadjin are cult members? Lots of people didnt believe hammerbro initially including myself
this is what ive already said.

I kind of agree with Yorkie at the mo and find it strange how wes has come on, voted Laserblue because he is sure he isnt a cop, mikeblue comes on votes Yorkie, and then Wes changes his mind and votes yorkie too?

It does look like a MikeBlue/Wes Team.

lets clear this laserblue thing...
1) Laser cannot be mafia otherwise he would not of did what he did to hippo.
2) If Laser was cop and investigated hippo, we would assume it would of returned an innocent verdict being Godfather. Either hammer has changed the rules, or laser made a bad guess(in claiming cop and getting the godfather).

so assuming the above two statements are correct. Laser cannot be cop, or mafia... he must either be Cult, Bad(angel eyes possibly), or something else?

I agree with hammersbro last post, and the more i think about it, the more i dont see a reason for laserblue not being lynched.
UNVOTE AMADJIN, VOTE LASERBLUE
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on August 10, 2008, 04:34:57 PM
vote count:
Laserblue 3 (Hammersbro, Amadjin, Happyaxeman)
YorkshireBlue 2 (Mikeblue, Wesmancity)

still to vote:
SVH, Mophead, Yorkshireblue, Laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on August 11, 2008, 06:40:58 PM
Right ok ... me & afro have just got back from mallorca so i,m gonna make this as breif as possible.... I'll be back on tomorrow

I've only skimmed through the posts .... I'll read them later & post again tomorrow ....

Anyway to hammerbro & evryone else that has voted for me ...

I never said I'd investigated hippo on any of my posts ...

the credit for nailing Hippo goes to stevenryals .... he just gave up on the game because he couldn't get people to see the obvious ...

& hippo tried to get evryone to vote for steve cause he knew he was on to him...

If you look back steve had sussed I was cop he as much as said so

also how do you think I was so sure you must be a pronoid cop ?... because I knew I was the real cop thats why... I played in a hammer game where york was a paronoid cop & there was also a real cop...

I did not investigate last night cause I was out of the country but the previous night I investigated currieman & it came back with me.... the first night I investigated TCH which also came back with me...

If the town want to win I would vote axeman he came out trying like hell to deflect attention from hippo when we were first on to him & ganged up on me with hippo cause they knew I was on to them ...

I havent investigated axeman but he seems pretty dam evil to me ..

 I was right about bluestars & along with steve urged those who had not voted to vote for her

I was right about hippo

& I'm sure about axeman to


Vote axeman
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on August 11, 2008, 07:53:42 PM
I wasnt trying to deflect from anyone. I assumed paranoid cop was something different to being guilty all the time. I was simply giving an alternative opinion.
the way you and currieman were going on, I kindof thought you were working together, and then you claim cop just before you go away... you do look rather suss...

Currieman... so you got 'a with you'... his role... Neutral lyncher? wtf is that, it doesnt sound much pro-town to me. and your other is TCH... who is also dead, how convenient. You made it appear as though you had investigated hippo...

and to say I'm pretty damn evil, how do you jump to that conclusion? Ive not posted much, and what i have posted imo, is for the good of the town. not my fault if you look dodgy as fcuk is it?
Ive just managed to start finding time and be more active in this game, and you want to lynch me. ??? cheers.  :cheers:

ps.. just thought of this now as was previewing my post, Ive voted Currieman throughout the game, If i was mafia do you really think i would of killed him last night (assuming the mafia and not a serial killer killed him)? give me some fcuking credit please.  ::) :bleh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on August 11, 2008, 08:22:48 PM

axeman your playing a much different game this time... by now you have usually been one of the first to sus & name most of the evil players this time nothing ???

sorry but I still think your evil

& I think that peeps should vote for you :D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 12, 2008, 09:31:24 AM
Hmm laser think you could be onto somthing... Unvote Yorkie
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on August 12, 2008, 12:28:44 PM
Yorky you obviously have not been reading the posts. How is it sus that I have thought you are evil from day one? You been skim reading cause you arn't interested cause you are evil???  >:D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on August 12, 2008, 01:04:19 PM
that just made my mind up

vote laserblue
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: laserblue on August 12, 2008, 01:15:40 PM
what just made your mind up.....?

anyway I can't be arsed telling you I'm the cop anymore


I pleaded with you all to vote bluestars & I was right

I pleaded with you all to vote hippo & not only was I right but we got the godfather.

so if you want to kill me & loose the game go ahead .. I just can't be bothered anymore... 

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on August 12, 2008, 02:31:08 PM
Vote Count:
Laserblue 4 (Hammersbro, Amadjin, Happyaxeman, Steve Van Halen)
YorkshireBlue 1 (Mikeblue,)
Happy Axeman 1 (Laserblue)

still to vote:
Mophead, Yorkshireblue, Wesmancity

5 Votes to get a lynch.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on August 12, 2008, 02:46:55 PM
In the interests of moving the game along.

Unvote Yorkshire Blue and Vote Laser Blue

Lets hope he is cult cause I can't see him being mafia!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on August 13, 2008, 12:52:12 PM
Vote Count:
Laserblue 5 (Hammersbro, Amadjin, Happyaxeman, Steve Van Halen,Mikeblue)
Happy Axeman 1 (Laserblue)

still to vote:
Mophead, Yorkshireblue, Wesmancity

The people have spoken..the time has come!!!



Players Alive - 8
HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Amadjin

Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One
Footballnewb/Unknown: Passed away via modkill for inactivity on Day Two
Stevenryals/Town Priest: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Two
Afroboy/Town Vigilante: Killed on Night Two
Trick Pony/Townie: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Three
Hippo/Mafia Leader: Lynched on Day Three (6 Votes - Hammerbro, Laserblue, Yorkshire Blue, Mophead, Currieman, Amadjin)
Currieman/Neutral Lyncher: Killed on Night Three
Laserblue/Town Cop: Lynched on Day Four (5 Votes - Hammersbro, Amadjin, Happyaxeman, Steve Van Halen,Mikeblue)


It is now Night Four!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on August 16, 2008, 07:11:04 PM
The sun rises.....who has died ....see below!!!



Players Alive - 8
HappyAxeman
mophead
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Amadjin

Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One
Footballnewb/Unknown: Passed away via modkill for inactivity on Day Two
Stevenryals/Town Priest: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Two
Afroboy/Town Vigilante: Killed on Night Two
Trick Pony/Townie: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Three
Hippo/Mafia Leader: Lynched on Day Three (6 Votes - Hammerbro, Laserblue, Yorkshire Blue, Mophead, Currieman, Amadjin)
Currieman/Neutral Lyncher: Killed on Night Three
Laserblue/Town Cop: Lynched on Day Four (5 Votes - Hammersbro, Amadjin, Happyaxeman, Steve Van Halen,Mikeblue)



Noone died!!!

It is now Day Five and 5 will get a lynch.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on August 16, 2008, 08:43:54 PM
cool, no one is dead, shame about laser being the cop, but i thought it looked like circumstances were against him, although i did intend to take my vote off him but wasnt around quick enough until mikeblue put the nail in the coffin.

as for last night, either the doctor made the right choice or someone failed to register an instruction during the night phase...

the only person not to off logged in during night phase was mophead.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 17, 2008, 12:50:29 PM
Vote Happy Axe, you seem to have a following once you voted and as laser said your game play has changed.

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 17, 2008, 12:56:06 PM
FOS SVH, "just made my mind up" says to me you're not studying the game as you normaly which are tricks mafia would do.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on August 17, 2008, 06:23:16 PM
vote mike blue
just is voting looks sus. didnt vote for hippo or bluestars and was the last to vote for laser
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on August 19, 2008, 12:07:14 PM
vote mike blue
just is voting looks sus. didnt vote for hippo or bluestars and was the last to vote for laser

Bloddy hell. There was only one way that was going. And I didn't really want to vote for him.

Happy is so evil its a joke. Started the whole thing everyone folloed. Laser (the cop said he was evil) and then tries to implicate me as putting the nails in.

VOTE HAPPY AXEMAN

Whoever can't bloody see this must be evil too!!!

Lets make this quick and get him lynched!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on August 19, 2008, 12:08:41 PM
If Axeman was town there is no way he would go after a claimed cop like that if he was not 100%.

It is so obvious just read through the last few posts of Axeman and they stink!!!

Get him lynched!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on August 19, 2008, 11:44:55 PM
FOS SVH, "just made my mind up" says to me you're not studying the game as you normaly which are tricks mafia would do.

Its because I havent got into this game as much I have other games so I just thought he was bluffing. Wrong I was, cocked up we did.


Im going to the Reading Festival tommorow lads so I will not be very active - worse than I have been sorry. Wont be back until monday night.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Steve Van Halen on August 19, 2008, 11:46:51 PM
Vote Hippo

Laser urged us all to do so but we foolishley lynched him. Sorry Laser
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on August 20, 2008, 09:29:16 AM
Hippos already dead. I'm inclined to vote axeman or amad but im gonna wait a bit. Both seem dodgy to me.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on August 20, 2008, 11:19:03 AM
So SVH has voted a dead person and won't be back till Monday......well thats useful!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 20, 2008, 12:20:58 PM
So SVH has voted a dead person and won't be back till Monday......well thats useful!


hes done that to keep Happy Axe in the game! we need to lynch Axe and then get SVH
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 20, 2008, 04:45:25 PM
I'm sure Amadjin is a cop aswell not sure that hes mafia as he did vote for Hippo but he was the last voter though! so hmmmmmm! dunno ???
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 21, 2008, 04:48:03 PM
 >:(  is anybody playing this game?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on August 22, 2008, 10:59:11 AM
POST GOD DAMMIT!

I'm dead and I am posting more than some people here!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: yorkshire blue on August 22, 2008, 12:00:56 PM
unvote mike blue vote happy axeman
wont be on line next week didnt realise this would go on for so long
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 22, 2008, 07:09:35 PM
Vote Count

Happy Axeman 3 votes, (wesmancity, Mike Blue, Yorkshire)


This game has lost its punch and im getting really annoyed! can we get a bit of control before i shit a kidney?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Happy Axeman on August 22, 2008, 08:25:36 PM
i gather you lot must be cult then, cause theres no reason why you should vote me off, especially before Amadjin and Mophead.

go ahead lynch another townie and loose the game.  ::)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: wesmancity on August 22, 2008, 09:28:53 PM
i gather you lot must be cult then, cause theres no reason why you should vote me off, especially before Amadjin and Mophead.

go ahead lynch another townie and loose the game.  ::)

oh yeah ok matey! ::)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Mikeblue on August 23, 2008, 02:29:16 PM
That was a convincing defence!!!

Don't care if they are cult you are evil for sure still!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on August 23, 2008, 03:20:40 PM
Back from Holiday and can't say much has happened.
You guys have had enough time and theres a deadline for Sunday 5pm. Mophead is being quietly modkilled for lack of action so only 4 votes will be enough now.

HappyAxeman
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Amadjin
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Quig on August 23, 2008, 03:33:00 PM
Vote: Happy Axeman
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia
Post by: Sir Villain on August 24, 2008, 11:37:08 AM
And that does it. The crowd gather enthusiastically to lynch Happy Axeman. Turns out he was the last Rojo brother causing trouble in this here little town. And the townsmen lived in relative peace abeit slightly too quiet peace for the rest of their little lives..


Players Alive - 6
Mikeblue
SVH
Hammerbro
Wesmancity
Yorkshireblue
Amadjin

Dead Players
Bluestars/Mafia Henchman: Lynched on Day One (10 Votes -  wesmancity, Trickpony, Hippo, Laserblue, Stevenryals, Yorkshire Blue, Afroboy,  Currieman, TCH, Miasg)   
Miasg/Cult Leader: Killed on Night One
Tommy Catons Haircut/Town Roleblocker: Killed on Night One
Footballnewb/Townie: Passed away via modkill for inactivity on Day Two
Stevenryals/Town Priest: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Two
Afroboy/Town Vigilante: Killed on Night Two
Trick Pony/Townie: Passed away via modkill for role quoting on Day Three
Hippo/Mafia Leader: Lynched on Day Three (6 Votes - Hammerbro, Laserblue, Yorkshire Blue, Mophead, Currieman, Amadjin)
Currieman/Neutral Lyncher: Killed on Night Three
Laserblue/Town Cop: Lynched on Day Four (5 Votes - Hammersbro, Amadjin, Happyaxeman, Steve Van Halen,Mikeblue)
Mophead/Townie: Passed away via modkill on Day Five
Happy Axeman/Mafia: Lynched on Day Five


Game over: Town Won
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: Mikeblue on August 24, 2008, 12:18:54 PM
There were not many Evil roles in that game???

Can't believe Yorkshire Blue was town!!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: Sir Villain on August 24, 2008, 12:24:08 PM
Yeah, he was the Doctor. Feel free to now post your roles and your night actions.

The Cult Leader picking the Mafia to recruit on the first night sadly lead to the game being quite unbalanced in favour of the town although the Paranoid Cop was meant to help balance. The Suicides, and unactivity ended up killing the game though.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: stevenryals on August 24, 2008, 02:05:54 PM
Well done hammer, I think the game was good, but with your internet probs and holidays etc etc, it may have helped to have deadlines and an 'assistant moderator' or something.. 

is currieman doing the next game?

well done to laserblue..  thanks for listening to me, you were the only one :)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: wesmancity on August 24, 2008, 09:11:20 PM
Kin get in!!! way to go me!!!
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: Happy Axeman on August 24, 2008, 09:56:02 PM
It was a good game hammer. Sorry for not playing it as much as I would of liked. once i got behind at the beginning it was really hard to catch up but shit happens.

i tried killing Wesmancity the last night, so i guess someone either roleblocked me, doctor saved him or he was bullet proof.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: wesmancity on August 25, 2008, 04:23:31 AM
It was a good game hammer. Sorry for not playing it as much as I would of liked. once i got behind at the beginning it was really hard to catch up but shit happens.

i tried killing Wesmancity the last night, so i guess someone either roleblocked me, doctor saved him or he was bullet proof.

who protected me

my role -You are a normal townie, and you win when the bad guys are forced out of town.


Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: MIASG on August 25, 2008, 06:39:38 AM
I still think it would have went better if we voted out the pwople not playing ..

anyway I tried to recruit hippo on night 1 and killed myself  :'(

Confederate Army General - Cult Leader
You are Lieutenant General Henry.H.Sibley, the leader of the Confederate army in New Mexico and the area in which this game takes place. It is your mission to recruit soldiers to your force. You may choose one person a night to attempt to convince to sign up. You will either

1.succeed which will result in a new recruit who loses any ability they once had and will join you in surviving to the end of the game.
2.fail for unknown reasons which neither the person you atempted to recruit knowing, and no precussions on yourself. bare in mind there is someone out after you.
3.fail and you will die.

If you die, all members of your cult feel so traumatised they leave Cimarro forever and are out the game (considered dead).

Also, if investigated by anyone you will appear innocent.

You win when Confederate Forces outnumber everyone else.

Let me know if you have any questions
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: i2i Killer 89 on August 25, 2008, 09:00:34 AM
I accidentally deleted my PM a while back mine basically said:

You have no affiliations and are on your own. You only win when Mikeblue is dead.

Hence why I went after Mikeblue on the first day >:D
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on August 25, 2008, 10:46:50 AM
i won, i won a first for me yay !!  :)

Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: stevenryals on August 25, 2008, 01:11:31 PM
Well done TCH.. excellent game.. .. excellent play throughout most of the 1st day...   (which was 2 months ago by the way)
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: Mikeblue on August 26, 2008, 11:11:39 AM
So all that rubbish about me was a lie MIASG?!?!?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: Mikeblue on August 26, 2008, 11:12:20 AM
So all that rubbish about me was a lie MIASG?!?!?  :laugh:

Or was it AMadjin....

Its that long ago.

Someone saying they died if I died....something along those lines.
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: MIASG on August 26, 2008, 11:39:31 AM
not me
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: Tommy Caton's Hairstylist on August 26, 2008, 12:42:56 PM
it was Amadjin


so spill the beans, truth or lie Amadjin ?
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: laserblue on August 26, 2008, 02:09:23 PM
Well done hammer, I think the game was good, but with your internet probs and holidays etc etc, it may have helped to have deadlines and an 'assistant moderator' or something.. 

is currieman doing the next game?

well done to laserblue..  thanks for listening to me, you were the only one :)

nice one steve ... just got back from amsterdam & glad to see we finally won :clap:
It seemed so obvious after you went you had been screaming hippo was guilty
then axeman came in to try & save him....to be honest afro had suussed axeman ages ago & tried to kill him at night but the doctor saved him  :doh:
I just picked things up from where you left off & wes did a good job of carrying it on for the town side after I was lynched ....nice one wes  :thmbup:
by the way afro was blondie
moment of the game though had to be SVH voting for Hippo... priceless :laugh: :2funny: :lol:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: laserblue on August 26, 2008, 02:11:05 PM
nice one hammer :thmbup:
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: stevenryals on August 26, 2008, 05:07:06 PM
lol..  Poor SVH, must have been quite distracted this game..   

VOTE TCH for not being active since the first day... 
Title: Re: Mafia 14 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Mafia: Game over-TOWN WIN!
Post by: froganomis on September 01, 2008, 09:10:44 PM
Hi

Right ive decided to let you in the mafia game. heres your role


You are a normal townie with a twist. You are in love with Mikeblue. If Mikeblue dies is anyway you get so upset you commit suicide!!!

Town Lover

so no it wasnt all bollox lol

good game people and its the first iv gone til the end :D